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Janus Motorcycles Season 1 Episode 108

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What does it actually take to build a motorcycle brand that belongs in a barn find a century from now? We pull back the curtain on our WeFunder campaign, why we chose community investment, and how this funding fuels the unglamorous, essential work of scaling a craft manufacturer, bigger buys with trusted suppliers, smarter tooling, upgraded facilities, and a serious push to reduce lead times without compromising the ride.

We get specific about the plan: unlocking supply chain savings to improve quality and consistency, targeting 12 bikes per week as a sustainable run rate, and moving toward 30-day lead times. We talk through a live Halcyon 450 build on the configurator, cardinal red to cream, single to double pinstripes, fishtails, visors, and leather, because personalization should serve the ride, not distract from it. And we share our philosophy of evolution over revolution: fewer model-year gimmicks, more focused refinements that make every start-up, shift, and stop feel better.

You’ll also hear a favorite segment, “the thing,” featuring a letterpress poster printed with wood type and a motorcycle sprocket. It’s a perfect metaphor for what we’re building: honest materials, visible craft, and objects that grow more beautiful as they’re used. We answer community questions on investor perks, timeline, and future models, including the Phoenix 450 and beyond. If you’ve wondered how a small American motorcycle company scales without selling out the soul of the machine, this conversation spells it out.

If this vision resonates, small displacement, high character, made to last, we’d love your support. Explore the campaign on WeFunder, configure your dream bike, and share the episode with a rider who values the journey as much as the destination. Subscribe, rate, and leave a review to help more folks find the ramble.


From Livestream #108 - Streamed on 12/08/25

SPEAKER_01:

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Ramble Stream Podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm Richard. And I'm Jansen. Each week we sit down for rambling conversations about motorcycles, the experience of riding, design, and whatever else catches our fancy. Bring a beverage of your choice or stories, and we'll see where this takes us.

SPEAKER_01:

If you're interested in thoughtful conversations, friendly and informative banter with fellow riders, and the latest dispatches from Janus Motorcycles headquarters, you're in the right place. Let's get started.

SPEAKER_00:

We're back. I was trying to match cadence with you, but it didn't work at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I kind of had a pause there. So we're delighted to be back with uh kind of a special ramble stream this evening. Um it we we were unsure actually when the um WeFunder campaign, when the Form C would actually be filed. It's taken, it's been a lot of work uh making sure that everything is um properly filed with the SEC. Um but yeah, it happened on Friday. So um we'll if you don't know what we're talking about, we will fill you in on that. Uh we're raising funds to help us become the new American motorcycle company. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Super exciting about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Super exciting.

SPEAKER_01:

So one of the things we're gonna be talking about this evening is uh answering your questions. Well, well, first of all, telling a little bit, telling you all a little bit more about that, um, filling in the the blanks, so to speak, and then also answering your questions with WeFunder, and then of course, just regularly scheduled programming.

SPEAKER_00:

The normal ramble stream stuff. You know, you know. But who are you?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Um so uh what we like to do here on the Ramble Stream, if you're new, um if you're if you're not, you can just uh come back when I'm done. If you're new to the Ramble Stream, uh tell us a little bit about yourself. Uh don't be a lurker like we talked about last week. Um tell us the format we like to use is down at the bottom. Uh tell us uh your name or your online handle, where you're viewing from, what you ramble with. And now this could be the most obvious choice is a two-wheeled motorized vehicle. Right. Uh if it's a motorcycle, but we also are open to uh things with wings, things with feet, holes, one or more. Uh feet? I said that already. Um or four, yeah. Anyway, yeah, you get the point. Um then last but not least, tell us what you're sipping on this evening. So I will go ahead and get started. My name is Richard Worsham, uh, co-founder here at Janice Motorcycles, CEO and head of design. And I am broadcasting from the Ramble Studio in downtown Goshen, Indiana, at our headquarters where we assemble and sell and market and repair and everything else, these motor lovely motorcycles. All of that. And I ramble with a well, we'll do it, we'll open it up a little bit. Yeah, do the whole thing. Do the old thing. A 1980 Cushman Truckster, so that gets your through wheels for you, uh. Although it does have a leading link front fork. That's why you bought it, though, right? Yeah. And a steering wheel, not handlebars. Uh, and then a 2009 Kawasaki KLR650 Gen 2, and a 2017 Halcyon 250 number. That's what I forgot to say. If you have a Halcyon, if you have a Janice, tell us the serial number, because that's important. So my the serial number of my Janice is number 68, and it's been with me on many, many adventures and many, many miles across the country.

SPEAKER_00:

Up, down, and all around.

SPEAKER_01:

Around. Um, and this evening, I'm sipping on a different Whoa, it's not what you think. It's not what you think? It's not Heaven's Door. It's uh a lovely bottle of Kentucky Urban Whiskey Bob Creek. And it's spicy. It's according to the Jansen. Uh Jansen, why don't you give us your your little uh uh intro and tell us about your give us your your review of the bourbon?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, yeah. My name is Jansen. Also coming to you live uh from Genesis HQ, the Ramble Stream Studio in Goshen. Uh I am a soon-to-be I ramble on my feet, but soon to be rambler on Phoenix 450 uh number, who knows? Uh and I am also sipping on some knob creek. And it's it's delicious. It is way more spicy than what I thought it was gonna be. And I'm getting a little bit of uh like a nutty flavor, but uh Richard isn't Richard isn't tasting that, so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm trying I'm describing it as it's definitely spicy, uh-huh. Not as spicy as bullet. Very spicy, but I feel like I would need them back to back. Uh, but it's I would say earthy. Earthy, I think it fits the bill.

SPEAKER_00:

Undertones of loamy loamy undertones. It's just spicy, really. It's it's all I got on that sip. Uh I did a proper one on the uh uh the pre-ramble. We got 80 three, we had 83 people on there. I think it was 86 at one point. So what's up, y'all? Um, yeah, no, I uh if you guys um would like to ask us any questions or uh have any comments about uh the stream, about Richard's uh shirt um or about the drinks that shoes, my shoes, uh you guys wearing them. That's just for you, Janice McRyder uh and Tracy. Uh yeah, you guys can send us those questions too. Rambling at Janismotorcycles.com.

SPEAKER_01:

But while we're live, rambling at if you have any questions like longer form, send us an email. But if you while we're live, post up a comment. We get to just babble on here, rambling to the camera, to you all, to ourselves, you all get to type in your comment or question. Comments, welcome, questions, welcome. Um type them up. As you can see, people are already signing in. So yeah, and like I said, tell us where you're viewing from, what you ramble with, and what you're sipping on.

SPEAKER_00:

Carson coming in here hot at 11:34 a.m. Not even with a comment saying first or fist, like some other idiot. We we he he he signed up for the membership, so he gets uh access to the pre-ramble, which is like 30 minutes of us just jib jawling about whatever, having a great time. More of the same, right? But but it's a little more insider information. It is a little more insider information. Um, you get access to uh members only shorts and uh you get early access to all the videos. So uh you guys can hit the join button at the bottom uh on YouTube to join the membership. Uh but the official first comment uh is Arlesberg uh saying that's insider trading, Jansen, because I literally commented right after I posted and scheduled the uh the live show. I agree with Arlesberg. I just you're just feeling a little spicy. I I've never done it before, and uh I had to make sure we're frozen. I had to make sure that it was working. Uh, from what I understand, the audio still works when we're frozen. Tell us, can you still hear us, even though the video is frozen? Oh, we're back. Okay. So Arlesberg was first. Uh then we got Jason412, and uh a wonderful contributor of this community. We've got Kelly up in here. What's up, Kelly? How you doing? Another wonderful contributor. We've got Dead Horse here. I'm I'm not sure if he was still here because he was asking at five o'clock what time it starts. Um it starts it starts now, uh, believe it or not. Uh, who else do we have? We've got uh Janice McRyder, who I think is my nemesis.

SPEAKER_01:

And I knew I'd get a laugh out of that guy. Get a hump out of that guy.

SPEAKER_00:

But we're, you know, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here, Janice McRyder. We've got Speed Racer.

SPEAKER_01:

This one's all you Speed Racer says Maryland Harford County, number 1209, Halcyon 250, which is named Genie. He took out yesterday, froze my cute little asterisk, asterisk off sipping an ice cold milk, eating cinnamon bunts. Well, there you go. He's living the life.

SPEAKER_00:

That's good to see you, Speed Racer. Sounds like he's living the dream. Uh, we've got uh carburetor crazies, aka Confed Yank here. Yo, yo, yo, I'll be describing the Phoenix I want on Twitch. Go watch on Twitch. Go watch on Twitch. He's our he's our uh old faithful uh Twitch viewer. We've got Gary Smith here. Hi from East Lansing, Michigan, House on 50 number 11, House on 250 number 79, House on 450 number three, Phoenix 250 number 79, Griffin 250 number 163, Phoenix 250 number uh P10-20, so that's the 20th of the 10th anniversary, 1972, 1972 Triumph Trident, a 1980 Honda CM200, a 1990 Harley Davidson 83 Sportser, a 2017-year-old gear up, sipping on Dr. Pepper. Uh as always. Great to see you, Gary. This one's you. Got this one.

SPEAKER_01:

Breaker Breaker19, John here in Rancho, Cucamonga with Halcyon T50, number 1148, uh, Casmir, and Two Fingers of Jameson. Hope everyone is doing well.

SPEAKER_00:

Hope everyone is well this evening. Glad to see you. We got Kelly here. Like I said, Jason. Catching live finally. Carson. Nice. We are glad you are here.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, we got Sirius Blatt says, hello there. Hey Sirius, I owe you a response email. Sirius sent me the coolest email about his journey with Catarum Cars and his dad. That's and it was like a chapter in a small novel. And it was great. And I I just haven't gotten back to you, Sirius, because I feel like that email warrants a long response. It warrants some thought. Yeah. So I uh I got you.

SPEAKER_00:

We've got Charles here, he says, Happy Monday from MD, Maryland, Maryland, Eastern Shore, rambling with Griffin 450 number four, House Count 250 number 500. Goodness, 454, and Phoenix 250 number 30, drinking.

SPEAKER_01:

Also, I should mention Charles is our lead investor on WeFinder. So if you want to beat him, you can. That doesn't mean that doesn't mean he's invested the most. It means he's representing everyone on the Wii Finder.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, interesting. Yep. If you want to know more about that, he has been very generous. Yeah. If you want to know more about the WeFunder, stay tuned. Stay tuned. Well, that was that was very official. Yeah. We've got uh Spencer Anderson. Greetings from Tulsa, Oklahoma this evening. Housey on 250, number 1123, hanging out with the Stay Bridge at the in the Stay Bridge Hotel, sipping on Monster. You've got a brother in the house. Spencer Anderson, my man. They released the Zero Sugar Regular Flavor, and it is so, so good. So good. Uh, we are so happy that you guys are tuning in tonight. I think it might be time for a poem to kind of slow us down a little bit, to center us, to bring us back to this planet. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

This will this one as it will bring us back. Um, we're revisiting um the newly discovered to me this summer poet A. E. Stallings, who um is a pretty modern cur contemporary, let's just say, um, poet in the tradition, I would argue, of the great Richard Wilbur and his ilk. Um this po book of poetry is called Like, and the poem is called Empathy. My love, I'm grateful tonight. Our listing bed isn't a raft precariously adrift as we dodge the Coast Guard Light and clasp hold of a girl and a boy. I'm glad we didn't wake our kids in the thin hours to take not a thing, not a favorite toy, and didn't hand over our cash to one of the smuggling rackets, that we didn't buy cheap life jackets, no better than bright orange trash, and less buoyant. I'm glad that the dark above us is not deeply twined beneath us, and moiled with wind, and we don't scan the sky for a mark, any mark that demarcates a shore as the dinghy starts taking on water. I'm glad that our six-year-old daughter, who can't swim, is a foot off the floor in the bottom bunk, and our son with his broken arms high and dry, that the ceiling is not seeping sky with our journey but hardly begun. Empathy isn't generous. It's selfish. It's not being nice to say I would pay any price not to be those who die to be us. Wow. There we got the commentary. We got the one word. That's all I got. That's all I got. I think we'd shake things up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00:

That that was very different than what we normally read. Great. I will say that. You're welcome. I don't know how I feel about it yet, though. My brain can't keep up. Yeah, that was uh that that was good. That's good. Wow, and wow, and um, that was good. Those are my any comments down there at the bottom about the um any deep thoughts.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, um, any comments at the bottom about the um video pausing?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah, no, they said everything's fine. Okay, five. Uh, we got good on my end. Great. Um good. We can vote fist or croc. I mean, come on. Uh question, how many of you dudes on here have 50 plus years on two wheels? Old school asks. If everyone could go ahead and uh uh put their comments in uh on and answer old school's question here. How many of you have 50 plus years on two wheels? I'm gonna guess. I bet you a lot of people. Decent amount. 55, Texas Rebel Tracy says. Nice. We've got Mark Swaggy. Mark Swag says 55 on motorized two wheels. Hey, we've got Scott Spence with 50 plus years. We've got a lot of uh veteran riders in here. Started writing in 1969, Texas Moto Dad says. Kelly, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Puck 971 says I have zero. No way. Nice. I'm glad you're here. 60 years, says Janice MC Ryder. You mean Nick Ryder? And that's in a what does he say? In a four-wheel vehicle. Yeah, we've got a lot of people with 50 plus years. That's Carlsberg says he I barely have 30 on Earth.

SPEAKER_00:

Still a little ways off. Hey, some younger people in the house. Hey, you're you're uh covered from the same cloth, if you will, as me. Uh gosh, I turned 30 next year. I'm getting old, guys. Gary says, uh, Gary Smith says, only 48 years. I'm still a new rider.

SPEAKER_01:

Mini bikes do count, David.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, David Watkins. Oh gosh, these comments are coming in so fast I keep on clicking on the wrong one. Uh yes, David, mini-bikes count. Missed it by two years, Gary. Or is Jimbo, are you saying that you missed it by two by two years as well? Well, we've got a good show planned for you guys. Um I I think I we like to to build. We've been liking building bikes over the uh over the lap the past couple we've we've liked building them live, so I think we're gonna do that again for builds of the week. Um I think we should do it a little different this time. I'm I'm ready for whatever suggestions you have.

SPEAKER_01:

So I think we should do multiple colors and do it pretty quick. Okay. Like show the same bike and then go back and change the colors. Just change the colors.

SPEAKER_00:

Just see what see what it's like. Okay, we need a first a first color recommendation here. Um, what what solid color should we do first? Well, what kind of bike are we gonna do? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, let me I'm just let's just pick. We're gonna do a what have we done already? Housey on 250. Have we done a house on 450? We haven't done a 450. Let's do a house on 450.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. We're doing a house on 450. Um I'd like to see a custom navy blue bike. Uh custom navy blue. Can we do that? I don't think we can do that on the configurator. On the configurator. But the first the first answer we got was red. We'll do red first. We'll do red first. We'll switch them out. There's gonna be lots of opportunities here. So we're gonna do a Phoenix 450.

SPEAKER_01:

So for those of you following along while Jansen does this, this is on our website. A Halcyon 450. Yeah. Uh this is on our website, you can on our build configurator. If you aren't already familiar, you can uh go check out these photorealistic um image, and then you can actually update the color. So let's go ahead and get this red. We're gonna do primary color. So the primary color is are the tint, what we call the tins, so fenders, airbox, fuel tank, and headlight. So this is in our cardinal red colors, colorway, and I think it comes the configurator sets it up stock with a gold pinstripe, which looks pretty sharp, honestly. Got a little bit of that fire engine vibe going on.

SPEAKER_00:

You you put your fireman hat on and you'll be all set, ready to go. Okay, we need uh we need a pinstripe color. These are hand pinstripe painted pinstripes by Kelly and uh I'm forgetting his name, Brent. If you want to check that out, we have a video on YouTube. We do. Just go right in your browser. Just click it's uh it's copper, it's not copper SemTech. It that's gold for Kelly says, I actually like the vintage red better. Okay. We can try that next. We'll try that next. So let's we got it with gold pinstripe.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's just try it with black and and just play around. Yeah. Let's go with black. This way we don't quite get that fire engine look. Yeah. Clear the selection.

SPEAKER_00:

Clear selection and black. Ooh. That looks pretty nice. Okay, now we can add a second pinstripe. Let's do that. Let's go with something crazy. Like red? Red.

SPEAKER_01:

What about cream? Cream or silver? Cream is nice. Cream looks really good. With the black? Holy c I don't think I've ever seen that. I have never, I've actually never seen that. This is why I love the configurator. You can literally do okay, and while we're here, let's do a different color feather. Okay. Let's do silver. Silver feather.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it kind of takes it down on that. It takes away from like the gold a little bit. Or the the cream. Yeah. Let's stick with gold. What does copper look like? I think I like copper better. Okay. What are our thoughts here? What what do we like the copper or the gold better? Chat. It's funny because no pinstripe. No blink. No pinstripe. Gold feather. Alright, Arlsberg says gold feather.

SPEAKER_01:

We're messing around.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Alright, so now let's uh let's zoom out and let's try first. Before we go with a frame match, let's go with can we do skirted fenders?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah, let me go to Down here. Alright.

SPEAKER_01:

Nice. That looks pretty good. So you can do we've got the double pinstripe on the fenders and the tank. That comes when you get this double the second pinstripe, it goes on both. Let's just uh and there it is with color match.

SPEAKER_00:

See, I think I like I like the black frame that this one. I do too. Yeah. Okay, now let's go back and uh do a different color. Okay. So I saw this this color up here. This what is this? Is this a big one? That's just our regular blue. Let me turn this off real quick. I like the frame match with it more. That looks pretty good. I I I I do enjoy it. Because the black, it like tur it changes the blue. And looks like that looks like a Harley VL from 1932.

SPEAKER_01:

It looks really good with the black.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well while we're while we're here with the blue, let's zoom in a little bit. What about try silver now? Silver? Oh, that doesn't. No, no, no. Silver pin. Silver pinstripe. Pinstripe, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no, sorry, for the feather logo is what I meant. Okay. Okay. Just keep the same pens. Yes. The cream actually looks really good.

SPEAKER_00:

The cream looks sharp. That's the secondary. See, with the cream. It it turns it into um like what if it it just turns it into silver in my brain quickly. What if we do like a uh red? Oh no, no, the secondary. Keep the I like the black.

SPEAKER_01:

Sorry, folks.

SPEAKER_00:

We're having just as much probably having full fun. Do do red. Do red.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh yeah. The cream is really sharp. The cream kind of understated that like really pops. The cream looks nice. Alright, let's see what the chat says.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. The cream looks really, really nice. Love that blue. That's the color I would choose, Walrus says. Mark Swag likes the silver feather. Yeah, it looks pretty good. The cream and silver run together. Yeah. Get the second pinstripe a brighter color.

SPEAKER_01:

Arlesberg, we And you gotta understand this is photorealistic, but it doesn't quite capture the metallic of the silver. Right, right. And the pop of the cream.

SPEAKER_00:

Do dual dark green stripes, Mark says. Double. Okay, okay. I like I kind of like that. Got green. First one. I don't like that. Wait, wait. Oily. Wait, just give it a second. Let it breathe. I don't like that. This guy likes that.

SPEAKER_01:

Now if you went to a different color, primary.

SPEAKER_00:

Like what? Cream? No.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean like primary color.

SPEAKER_01:

What like that doesn't look good. Cream? I like that a lot. Wait, can you know? See, now we're into kind of classic land.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. I feel like any base color that's cream turns it into classic, like a classic Janus. When I think of a Janus, like when I think of a Halcyon, I think of a cream, a cream halcyon.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, let's go. Let's um let's go to some other options and then we'll we'll uh wrap this up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so we'll keep it cream. Um we'll we'll do double green. Double cream, pinstripe. We'll do frame match.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but the cream with frame match looks really good. It's really nice. That's nice. Um we had a Halcyon 450 with a frame match cream, a whole bike, and he didn't he painted his like everything cream as well. It was that that's sharp.

unknown:

It's very sharp.

SPEAKER_00:

Pop some black leather on there. Okay, okay. Janice McRyder coming in here with the the fire suggestions. Finish options. We're gonna go black. Well, that's not black. This that does look good. That looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh let's do um the uh fishtail extra. Fishtail. Okay brushed. That one. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, now we're talking. Nice. And we can do a headlight visor. Yes. Gotta do the headlight visor. With you, if you have scrooted fenders, I feel like you have to do the headlight visor. Second mirror. I mean, whatever. Take it or leave it. I like the LED headlight.

SPEAKER_01:

It doesn't really make a difference in the rendering, but bar and weights, yes. Windscreen? Ooh, should we do it? Do the windscreen. Do the flash screen. I like how we I personally, folks, the flash screen does it for me more than the windscreen. It's straight up bruff superior. I don't know if y'all know what I'm going for with that, but I've I've wanted to do a little win a little flash screen like this for since the 50cc. It's really cool.

unknown:

And it looks good.

SPEAKER_00:

Gotta do some saddlebags.

SPEAKER_01:

Gotta do saddlebags.

SPEAKER_00:

We listen, we say it every time. Always do the front fork tie down.$35. Just just do it. Don't want a cargo rack on this one.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, no cargo rack.

SPEAKER_00:

I think don't think we need a fuel bottle.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't think we even let's add on like 20 years of RD. Yeah, TBD.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfect. There you go, folks. That's a good looking motorcycle right there. Let's zoom in here. Again, we'll we'll just I could tote about the configurator all day. It it's so much fun to just play around on.

SPEAKER_01:

So one of the benefits of this is you can save this. Um and uh you can, if you're interested in talking to Mitch, just want to, you know, hang out, send him this, and uh, you know, just give him your credit card information.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, and just like place a down payment on it or like paying cash, you know. And you'll get a LSCA for it. It's crazy how that works. Um, we are running a kind of a fun um would you say it's a contest or like a yeah, uh uh promotion. It's a promotion where uh if you build a bike under configurator um and then send uh your information uh and save the the build that you just made, you have a chance at winning 50% off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a couple of other things you do, like sharing on social media. Um it's all over our social media right now if you're interested. And we're gonna be drawing a lucky winner to get 50% off of the base price. So which is a check it out, phenomenal deal.

SPEAKER_00:

Phenomenal. It is. Um, what's next? We've got uh well, let's fist me shot. It's kidding you, it's getting you. It catches me every time. The configurator is awesome. Um this is Medbill. How are you? This is a new name to me. It's a new name. Uh the configurator is awesome. I'm gonna have some disposable income in January. Awesome. That's so cool to so cool to hear. Um you can send it in right now either. Um, and you know, maybe you'll get half off. Who knows? Um yeah, get a hold of Mitch and you can start dreaming today.

SPEAKER_01:

Rally.

SPEAKER_00:

These are insider jokes, but no, these are ramble stream, these are ramble stream jokes right here. Crocs. There's so many who can't. All right. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you want to explain to the people, Richard, um, what a thing is? So one of the things we like to do on the or we always do on the ramble stream is we talk about a thing. And a thing is a kind of a generic term that we use in a lot of ways. But it here on the A Janus Motorcycles, and if you're a rambler and if you participate in the Ramble Stream and you own a copy of the Rambo's Companion, which is available on our store right now. We're very pitched today. Um I wrote that book, uh, published it last year. It's on rambling. And uh then you'll understand what we mean. Oh, you're going for the Yeah, I want to have them back to back.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Just as uh then you'll understand what we mean when we say a thing is a very particular meaning here, and that me that is a an item, a tool, a a an object, physical object, that the best way we were kind of joking before the stream about we need to start introducing what a thing is before we just like launch into it. Yeah, because you were like, hey, have you prepared your two-centence uh uh description of what a thing is? I was like, no, I always struggle. This is literally 45 seconds left in the countdown, then I look over at him and I ask. But if I think the best way that I would describe a thing is it's something that you would consider gifting to someone that you care for deeply. Yeah. It's something that you would consider repairing. It's something that gains value as it wears in, as it breaks in. And what is it? It's it uh what's the word? It patentates patentates. It patinates. That's a favorite word here on the Ramble stream. Um but a patentate is a wonderful word because it just it talks about exactly what we're what we're what we mean about a thing is that over time, the wear and tear and the abuse that you put on it, and the you just love and usage that you put it through actually adds beauty. So we it could be let's we've we've we've done a lot of things on here. It could be a piece of Roman crockery that's broken. Um it could be a great example would be um this this hand plane, yeah. Um beautiful Bailey number three that I found beat up and repaired and use. Oh, I need to bring it back to my workshop so that I use it daily. Um it's not just shelf candy, or it could be uh any um any number of other really interesting things that that um that add value. So that's a thing. I prefer we'll get better at this. Uh I prefer do do gigi. What what you might call it? Or whatchamacallit? A vasistas is the term. Um the edges on old 68's tank. Yeah, John, you you got it. Exactly. So he's talking about the the back of the tank. My motorcycles tank is worn through to the old bare aluminum from just riding it.

SPEAKER_00:

Gosh, it's so cool. It's like a like a guitar that's been worn on the on the top part of the colour. Anyway, we've talked about what a thing is.

SPEAKER_01:

And I I'm gonna talk about a thing that's maybe breaks the mold a little bit. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It is interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I don't know anything about this.

SPEAKER_01:

So this is a uh did you hear that? Uh this is a poster that I printed on um my wife's vintage letterpress flatbed press. And uh if you know anything about letterpress printing, it's like the ultimate thing. Each individual piece of type is made out of either lead or wood.

SPEAKER_00:

Gosh, it's so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

And the and in this case they uh have uh patination dents in them. And they also you use stuff called f it's called furniture, which is the the the wooden block that you use to like lock, it's called locking up the chase. So that you have a chase which holds the type, and then you put all these pieces in it, it's like a puzzle, and then you have these coins that you lock it together with so that it holds together, yeah, it locks all the type together. And the furniture, usually you don't print the furniture, but I decided to actually print the furniture so and it's wood, and you can see there's look at the the print marks on this stuff and the wood green. But anyway, this oh, and then the most funny part of this is I also printed, I used Janice sprockets, these are 250 drive sprockets. Um you can see look at the machining.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I don't know if they can see the machining mark. No, no, you might have to get it kind of close to the camera, but uh Mark asks a good question. Very cool, but did you not have a U?

SPEAKER_01:

No, I did. I I actually I don't remember. I might not have had a U, but I thought it was I always like using the kind of Roman uh V instead of the U. But anyway, this is for a motorcycle film evening series that I've never done. I just had the idea. I really wanted to make a poster. I and I wanted to use motorcycle parts.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought this was an event that that we held like the kind of toward the beginning.

SPEAKER_01:

We will someday have the JNS motorcycle film night. But anyway, this is all printed of like bits of junk and furniture. Super cool. And in a couple of really beautiful pieces of uh wood type. So very cool. It's about five years old.

SPEAKER_00:

So would you say that the the poster is a thing? I would say the poster is that the process. The process and the poster are a thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Can can a process be a thing? I think a thing has to be physical. Okay. Okay. But it can tie in somehow. Mark says, uh, include on any Sunday, please. Yeah. Well that's what that's one of the film, one of the films. That and um World's Fastest Indian and The Great Escape.

SPEAKER_00:

We could just go live. You could go all the great movies, you know. We could we could go live and just play 24-7 movies. A Janus rambling video game? Probably not. Possibly, but that would be cool. Excited bike. I've never heard of I've never heard of any of these movies. You said like a movie, it's a video game. You okay. I haven't even heard of it. You've said three things, and I've I just have no clue what uh any of those things are. All right. Well, I think it's our thing. Uh thank you for for doing that. Oh, you're welcome. It's always, it's always kind of fun. I I get to um look at all of that. Yeah. I get to look at all of these uh things behind me. Yeah, they just start stacking up. I gotta have to clean out these things and bring in some fresh ones. Yeah, well I I look at them all day, but I I never know like the story behind them. Uh so it's fun to to be able to hear the story and uh know why they're they're on like this two by four shelf. This handcrafted two by four shelf, which probably could be a thing in and of itself. Well, yeah, it's it's lasted a long time. So we already mentioned uh the uh the 50% off uh giveaway um contest information's on our uh socials you have to share. Hold on, we gotta pause here. Can you pull up Mr.

SPEAKER_01:

Ferrutia?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So this is uh this is great. Um Kinsugi. So the funny story about Kintsugi, I'm sorry, I'm gonna get we will get to the Wii Finder, is that Kinsugi is the Japanese art of repairing pottery, but then making it actually look better in the process. So oftentimes what they'll do is they'll use gold for the repair, and so it actually like highlights the fact that there's a crack in it and that it's been broken.

SPEAKER_00:

It highlights the imperfection.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. So my funny story with Kinsugi is that I was researching it because I built myself a uh I built it's a Christmas present for my wife, a Kinsugi kit, so she could repair all the things that she breaks. She's here. I just saw her. And I was looking up like how to make Kinsugi and I found this article online and I was like reading the article and everything, and then it's a beautiful story about how he went to visit his friend in Japan, and uh he brought in these gifts and they were broken in the in the on the way over. Oh so he threw them away. And when he left, his host in Japan gave him back his gifts repaired. No way. And guess who it was? I don't know. Who wrote this Dick Lehman? Dick Layman. Hannah's dad. Oh, no way. That's awesome. Goshen is known for our pottery, and I knew the guy who wrote this the story the article. That's really funny. And Brent Lehman, who makes our fenders? It's his dad. That feels like a full circle moment. Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_00:

That's awesome. It was really cool. Anyway, two different stories. Real quick, how long do you think will our articles would take? Because we have uh so do we want I don't think we want to I think we need to move on to WeFunder first. Yeah, I think a lot of people are here for that. Great. So uh as you all know, or as most of you know, we have been uh kind of running through this process to open up uh uh what's called a Wii Funder. Um and uh we've been taking commitments for how long?

SPEAKER_01:

It has been going on, I think since September, the very maybe even longer. Okay. It's been a long process. Um for those of you who are not familiar, Wii Funder. I was not familiar with Wii Funder when we started. Um WeFunder is like the big granddaddy of crowdfunding. So if you're familiar with Kickstarter or similar platforms, which we've we we ran a Kickstarter back in 2015 to launch the 250 line, um, it's like the bigger version of that. And um we started a campaign um earlier end of the summer, really. We started the process. It's very, very detailed. There's a it requires SEC filing. Um, we have to file a Form C with the SEC to go through that process. And up until now, uh folks who've been interested in participating have registered a commitment to invest. And what that means is that anyone, the minimum investment is$250. So anyone who's interested, whether you're an owner or whether you're just an enthusiast or whether you just think this is a cool story, you can invest in Janus Motorcycles. You can be an owner of the company. Um, and but it's through this mechanism of WeFunder, which allows it to be simplified. It allows people who are not um what's called an accredited investor, which means that you have to have significantly more resources than the average um consumer. Yeah, it allows more people to do that. And we thought it was a wonderful idea because it would allow you all, our owners, more people to first of all support what we're trying to do, yeah, and also um gain some ownership in our company and its motorcycle. Yeah. So all the uh we fund our investment um is going toward us expanding our production, launching new models. Um, one of the things that we've been plagued with it, we're a very small company, as you all know. Uh we're this is as of the second, this is our 14th, 14 years doing this. Um, we've been plagued with the what as you can imagine, you know, capital is the thing that's held us back the most as we try and scale up. And um we're really excited for what this kind of what this campaign uh promises for us to be able to expand our production, yeah, shorten our lead times, and uh be able to deliver our motorcycles to more and more people.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, I saw a question um from Revere. He asked uh when the deadline is uh to oh here, I'll just read the comment. Uh RefreeMoto asks, what's the deadline for investment? I asked because this time of year is really difficult, a really difficult time to come up with extra money.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a great question. Um the timeline, my understanding is that it will be open. If you go to the WeFunder platform, it actually lists the closing date as um, I believe it's in March, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00:

I've got it pulled up here. Let me just uh well let me just post this link into in the chat. Yeah, someone asks. Uh I've got it in the description on YouTube, or it should be everywhere, but I'm just gonna go ahead and um post it again in the chat. So if you guys need it.

SPEAKER_01:

But anyway, as Mark, so for those of you all who don't know, uh if you go scroll up to Mark's comment, the one not this one, the one before it, up to the class Class C one, yeah. Or the Mark's Y uh in the comments here. Jan uh Mark is uh started off as a Janice. motorcycles owner um and he has now over many years worked um very very closely with us he's our cf o and um uh integrally uh I mean works with me on a very very very uh immediate basis yeah um and so he's also our CFO so he's able to any any answers he gives here in the in the in the chat um you can treat as straight from us. Yeah but he says this he's saying that this is uh filed under form C um one class of stock so this is not preferred stock um it's very straightforward and he also adds down there below that we're our goal is to raise one million dollars and this will be open until we reach that.

SPEAKER_00:

Well so I you mentioned some like production uh uh improvements or uh what what what did you say what is there um like what what can we say that the the money is is going toward I know that we've got had some complications right with uh getting parts in uh due to just you know uh how capital intensive some of this stuff is absolutely so um some of y'all know we um about this time last year uh brought on a guy named Scott Ferguson who is our director of supply chain and Scott is an incredible individual he come he's from my hometown so he's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Where what's your hometown?

SPEAKER_00:

Well where I live now.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh I'm not gonna say it oh okay all right um Scott is uh started off well he started off in many different um areas but he's he's worked with uh Buell motorcycles for many years under Eric Buell um Harley Davidson LiveWire Kuryoken Briggs and Stratton uh just the list goes on um in supply chain and he has identified identified a number of ways that we can save costs on our parts work with higher and higher quality suppliers yeah however as you can imagine a small company like us one of the ways that we got started was just using super super local small scale shops that are willing to work with our low volumes yeah but as we as we scale up and try and drive cost out of the product lower the price of our of our bikes make them more accessible um those kind of the kind of the the bringing in those components takes higher minimum order quantities right and more more tooling costs etc to to be able to do that and so to be able to take advantage of many of those savings that Scott has identified uh it's more capital intensive right so we're really excited about the potential yeah um uh not just on a cost end but on a quality end that this will bring to our motorcycle yeah very very excited um you all will see see the results of that in not you've already you are already seeing that in our current offering and you will continue to see that as we develop the line over the next coming months.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah uh Mark says more money we can buy larger qual uh quantities of components and improve quality and drive costs out it's a win-win for everybody um which is really really exciting how much buy-in to get a custom Phoenix 250 well we do have some perks we do that's hey Confed Yank thank you so much for the segue we really appreciate it I don't have them memorized so let me bring them up here real quick who has the skills to design a derby for the 450 engine Janus McGrider asks what is a what is a derby I think he's talking about is he spelled it the right way D-E-R B Y uh D B if it's D-E-R-B-I, that's the uh 50cc engine.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh oh oh so we have perks if you invest 250 or plus dollars you get a Janus motorcycles investor pinch$1,000 a special Janus motorcycles investor engraved gas cap very cool$5,000 lifetime access to any Janus motorcycles rally or event 1000 10% off any new motorcycle of your choice$25,000 10% off all purchases for life that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

Those are some perks obviously we're not um giving away motorcycles the goal here is to uh fund our growth not um add to our costs right but uh we're trying to this this will be this is a fun way to uh participate and I think as a lot of the people I've spoken with um this part of the benefit is the being able to to um be a part of what we're doing as we as you know and obviously the goal is to um for this to be uh a larger organization that um shares those profits out yeah yeah um we've got Carl Spirk says a thousand dollars is a lot for a gas gas what what else is it is I mean what else I I want to speak I want you to speak a little bit to um uh what I think is possibly one of the coolest things about this whole campaign is uh the ability for the community to come together and help support Janus as a whole uh I don't know if you guys I I I'm not um hot I'm not directly how would how would what would you say my relationship to Janice is I I'm not an employee of Janice. Was an employee of Jan I was past employee but but I'm not uh so stakeholder yeah in in so in some capacity yes but uh I I just think it's super cool I I I think I say that because I I want people to know that like I'm not just shelling for the company right like um I I think the community that's been built here is incredible. Um and I think this gives people an opportunity to step into what is to come.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah one of the things that we've been asked many many times over the years going all the way back to the beginning is how can I be a part of what you're doing? Can I buy shares? Can I and typically our answer is well let's let's have a deeper conversation but the complication of getting many many different smaller quad smaller uh contributions or or investments is it outweighs the benefit for us and the beauty of a pro of a campaign or platform like wefinder is it simplifies that under this form C. Yeah so that it's very simple everybody gets as Mark said um uh one class of stock and we can be very organized about it keep track of it properly according to SEC regulations. Um and so yes it's this is I'm I'm I'm excited about this because it allows more people to participate in a in a in an even deeper level on what we're trying to do. And and and it it just continues because I mean every single one of you all who own a Janice motorcycle in some form are an investor in us you are investing your your trust your confidence and your support for us to be we couldn't do this if people didn't buy our motorcycles. Yeah yeah and it just so happens that when we see you all enjoying them and you know getting so much out of them it it it makes it even more worthwhile. Right. One thing that uh I just wanted to go back to is um uh one point that Mark made about facilities is that one of the other things that this will allow us to do is to improve our facilities um and expand them and that's are gonna be vital one of our big goals is to be getting to 12 motorcycles able to produce 12 motorcycles a week yeah which I see some comments about lead time will also help us to reduce our lead time. One of the stress factors that has contributed to longer lead times right now are these uh supply chain issues yeah um not only does buying in with Scott's suppliers help with driving down cost and uh improving quality but it also means that we go with really the top suppliers that are the easiest to work with that don't that they can help work with us on getting these lead times down. They can work with us on shipping um there yeah it's it's it's going to help in a lot of ways for us to reduce the lead time but that's another key part of what we're trying to do is we really ideally our goal is to get lead time down to 30 days. Yeah it's not going to happen overnight right but um that is one of our goals.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah but there's already things that are have been put in place just to help uh Janice accomplish that goal right uh Texas Rebel Tracy says basically I'm taking the thousand dollar discount I got on my bike and plowing it back into the company for stock and a full cap no real loss of value and I might even make money. There you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_01:

What is the per week number right now? That's a that's a challenging one to answer lately it has not been where we want it to be um some weeks it's six some weeks it's less some weeks it's more um but that is that is a a part of this supply these supply chain issues that have really been plaguing us especially this year.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah yeah um supply supply chain issues are real and has been an issue for all that's what uh speed racer speed racer says goodnight goodnight speed racer glad you came and tuned in man it was it's good to have you here Chris says Chanky's whip in the hiss I'm not sipping on any Shanky's whip right now but good to see you Chris uh we've got uh can I Symtec asks can I wait five years to use my bike discount I don't know about that I don't know that'd be some sort of lead time on it or cutoff though. Uh hoping you don't get Arlsberg or sorry well I saw an A and just automatically assumed it was Arlesburg Aiken Ranch says hoping you don't get pinched out of the market by big bike Janice Parts Matter.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I'm I'm trying to understand exactly what you mean there. I think we have a leg up on big bike in the sense that the market is shifting and we're seeing the only segment of the motorcycle industry that's really growing right now is smaller displacement.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah look at the new triumphs um look at Harley Davidson well I'm what the article I was going to share was one of the things is about the new I can't say it's a very good thing the the new Harley X the 440 I'm not here for it the God Howard I feel like we've come a long way the God Howard last time I remember you were throwing some slander around I like the bike style oh get a nice phone call I like the bike style but I do believe it's time to get some updates. What are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01:

That's an interesting one so he wants updates well we're always working on more updates lately we've been focusing more on just production right um but yeah we we have some we have some uh stuff up our sleeve one of the things that differentiates Janice from other brands however is the fact that we don't release a new model yeah we we there's a new model year yeah you get a 2025 when 2025 blah blah blah but we we're just honing in on this thing right and making it more more and more perfect in in what in what we believe and what we think you all believe. Yeah so we're not really chasing updates for updates' sake right uh rather to if it makes the bike better but I hear you and that's one thing that we can do we could do more of is more updates and more upgrades. Um but we do have to balance that with just producing much cycles.

SPEAKER_00:

Right well there's this fine line you know how we get big bike right uh oh Arlesberg great great exactly kind of what I was getting to it's evolution not rev revolution absolutely uh we the main focus is to make these bikes as as good as they can be um and they are constantly being vised right right and and that's that's that's the point right because all the other motorcycle brands that's what they do the the big push is for them to get uh cooler tech or faster bikes or yada yada yada it takes away from the experience of riding as a whole um and we want to like pull back from that we want to go in the opposite direction of that and say how can we focus on the ride itself how can we how can we take this experience and really exponentiate it and make it the best it can be and I I think that's what that's what Janice does really really well. Wow well well said you know it's like you do marketing or something it's crazy I've got I got the magic words today. Med Bill asks keep or says keep polishing the apple your bikes are great and if it's an in if if this investment deal is a success I look forward to maybe more models awesome stakes thank you man yeah appreciate it we've got so many comments coming through guys so sorry we're we're probably gonna miss a lot of them but uh John Gover they're going really fast no no um this is not a cookie cupper cookie cutter motorcycle company maybe more optional optional factory accessories even at a premium cost yeah we are we're looking at more um upgrades always but we do we do if we're a really small team yeah it's pretty amazing that we're able to launch new models in the time that we do right and and I just want to kind of make a comment on uh the team as a whole right like um there are some really cool people that work here uh that are really really good at what they do and they care a lot uh and I I you don't get that everywhere. No no don't get that everywhere. That's really cool to see.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah and we we we we uh we're really excited about the potential that this fundraising offers for us to be able to expand that and be able to do more more of the fun things that we don't usually have time to do. Right. Um is we are like like as you can imagine a team of almost 30 people right now um producing, designing marketing selling repairing maintaining everything everything we're completely a one-stop shop so that uh that did that is that is a lot of things to take care of.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. But uh we still managed to uh launch some new models very excited about the upcoming Phoenix 450 you're telling me I've I've been I dream about I still haven't lit it on color combos or anything like that. So I'm still dreaming about what my Phoenix 450 is going to look like I'm scrolling through the uh may maybe I'll just share it. Hold on give me let me share my screen here. Oh I felt like I was in a zoom meeting just then let me let me just let me just share my screen can you stop sharing please I think you're muted. I think you're muted so this is the official WeFunder page um I don't I don't know if there's anything that you want to draw attention to here.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's just talk about how much we've raised three over 35000 has already been raised and I just want to make a point here with this this is a good great uh moment to say this we have only marketed this to existing Janus motorcycles owners one of the stats that you can look at on our weFunder campaign is the number of people that are weFunder repeat weFunder investors and the number of people that are new for over 95% of our investment is from people that are new to WeFunder, which means that's insane they're just Janus people. That's insane. So over the next week we're going to be marketing this to the WeFunder platform and through all of our social media which we have not really done as of yet right so this is if you kind of go back to the the uh Kickstarter campaign they always say you know market you know you want to get your friends and family to contribute first and kind of give it a leg up that's what this is y'all the friends and family round we could have ever asked for.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So we're very very grateful for that very very excited yeah what else is what else is on this we funder page today well if we just go through there it's got highlights of what we're doing it has our featured investors um and so if you go down there that's uh these are members look at this that's Mark we know that guy uh people that like Mark and Bruce that are uh investors on and on our board then it goes to the team if you want to click show more it's got a got more people on there uh this is um me mark uh scott our supply chain guy Bill seals our general manager and then additional members of our board all really seasoned investors and entrepreneurs that have uh really helped us guide this company and fund it to date are very very grateful for those people uh we would not be here without that and you all customers and then just some highlights of the company how many bikes we've sold over our 14 years our growth and then just kind of like our our vision you know this is one of the kind of we're trying to be a little bit aggressive we want to be the new American motorcycle company yeah um and that doesn't mean that we have to sell a hundred thousand units a year oh hold on what we got oh we got we got a super chat gosh dang it Jason it thank you so much for the two bucks he asks uh any thoughts on a new model down the road after the Phoenix 450 after the Phoenix 450 um oh I don't want to let the cat out of the bag but yeah I've got lots of thoughts on it there's we may hey Jason maybe next week in the pre-ramble we'll oh I mean just imagine I mean if we're if we're a if we're trying to be a new American motorcycle major the number of things that you could do to further that in with a flavor of Janice how would Janice make a new American motorcycle that's what that's those are the lines that we're thinking along I uh would like to uh make a caveat here um I would argue and say that we already are the the new American uh fair enough motorcycle manufacturers fair enough uh how do we rem remind people that that's me to make the the part like a couple of font sizes right like what that that's that's already who we are it this is like this is a reach thing at this point yeah uh how can we uh help other people understand that uh this thing's uh I I'm so excited to see what Janice does what about Arch motor motorcycle Arch?

SPEAKER_01:

I've never heard of Arch Arch motorcycles so typically we're kind of unusual in the motorcycle world what we are because typically at least in the last very very long time in the early days of motorcycling two guys could start a motorcycle company in a garage is Arch um but in recent years it usually takes like a celebrity investor like like Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves okay I know and that's what Arch motorcycles is I looked at their stuff I've looked at it I'm I'm not just saying that I think it's really neat um I I I don't think that they have to deal with the kind of financial realities that we do.

SPEAKER_00:

Are you sure I don't know Keanu Reeves hasn't been in very many movies lately so I think it's such a good press though um Keanu Reeves is awesome the the one thing that I'm not knocking arch motorcycles I think they're really neat that they're there but they I hey hey sport bike if you're if you're watching we would love to like meet up and maybe do like something that'd be kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Actually um forward controls I feel those bikes I just don't understand feels wild but the other the one thing that really made my me scratch my head on those arch bikes was that they they average they market the fact that they machine their fuel tank out of a solid block of aluminum and I'm like hold on that's is that a good thing I don't think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00:

That's wild. Hey guys yeah we spare no expense or practicality or hey it's not about efficiency or it's not yeah that's exactly that that taking that argument maybe are you want to say what I think too far Richard?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah there's a beauty to an English wheel yeah that's fair that's fair at all using the material in the appropriate manner.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh this is this is kind of a cool comment uh from Mark again hedge funds can Not buy our stock. We control who we sell it to. Absolutely. That's that's uh I think it's a cool comment. It's it's like I like that. Big motorcycle. Yeah. No, we don't need big motorcycle, man. Uh Janus 6.

SPEAKER_01:

One thing I want to just one additional point that is interesting on that topic is that from the very beginning here at Janus, even back to the Paragon, which was the moped that we made, we wanted to make not one, but six of them. Right. So our interest from day one has been to make a production motorcycle. Right. Which means that many people can have access to it. It's these these are not one off uh like I mean this is complicated to say. Like they're not they're not just it's not a one-off work of art. It's a work of art, obviously, and all the the the craftsmanship that goes into it. Right. This is something that's designed that that I've always wanted many people to be able to acquire. Right. Certainly, it should not be a punched out in a factory overseas, you know, mass-produced. We have no interest in ever doing that. Right. But we've talked about this before. Go back to some old ramble streams, the difference between mass production and and heirlooms. Yeah. But I think that kind of gets to maybe that difference between an Arch or like a Curtis or what they used to be called Confederate motorcycles, is that they that they're they're you know$100,000 for this thing that's made exact you know only for you. Right. Or a custom motorcycle, which some of them could be priceless in someone's estimation. These are not custom motorcycles. We build production motorcycles that are highly personalized and ready for you to customize.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It's like it it reminds, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Singer Porsche. It's uh it's a little different, right? But the uh they took a fully production vehicle, right? The uh a 9-11, and said, How can we give it the Janus treatment? And that's not really what they said. Oh, hold up. Uh Walrus 647 says, You guys are great, Janice is great, love what you do, hope you keep growing. Cheers. Cheers, thank you, appreciate the 10 bucks. Uh, thank you so much for for sending uh that cash.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I don't know. There's that I mean, I I just want to get the point, and my point in saying that is that manufacturing is what fascinates us here. And building a sustainable business that supports people over a long period of time and that supports owners and customers is what we're trying to do. I was as a child, I was fascinated with vintage car companies, motorcycle companies, these brands that were able to build a reputation over decades to be able to be something that's really stood for something. And then that's that's really what we're trying to do with Janice. Is I yeah, something that you pull out of a barn in 150 years and somebody's like, that's a gin.

SPEAKER_00:

Is that a Janice? Like that, that's a cool, that's a cool uh uh thought.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's why I I you know companies like Harley Davidson, we can we can knock them all day long. Yeah, but I have so much respect for them. And you know, I think we can all wish Harley Davidson the very best because it's still lacking this. They're the really like Indians is fantastic, but it's not the same Indian.

SPEAKER_00:

I think you can respect the heritage, but also dog on like yo, what the heck are you doing?

SPEAKER_01:

We have to. And if we were making some of the decisions that you know that they've that they are making or have made, I would hope that the ramble stream would be full of some.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, right. It's it's if we ever go down the Harley Road, please. Everyone knows our address. Send us all the mail. So ran when parked, Chris Smith says yeah, my hundred years old. I ran it ran when it parked when I parked in there. LOL, buy Janus Crocs. No, guys. Educate me, what's a croc. Okay, show him what they aren't even crocs, they're knockoff crocs. They're knockoff crocs. These are TB crocs. If if if we were to say that uh anything is the opposite of Janus as a whole, it would be these crocs right here. However, if I will wear these until they literally disintegrate, which will be never because these are very bad for the environment. I'm just saying. So are these a thing? Maybe. I'm I'm about to hold on. I think arguably no these are a thing. Look, I'm about to repair these. I'm about to hog them whatever. And that's how we're on the stream that are nice we funders pretty much. But that's not these are open-aired. It's it's fine. I should put pinstripes on these.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, there's a question about expected return. Um Jared, if you want to get on the WeFunder, go on there and we can talk about. We are we are um we have to just make sure that we're being careful about not promising things that we can't deliver on. You know, these are uh any kind of a like a uh investment is something where there's an element of risk involved. Um and so we try and be very careful about how we talk about it. But obviously, our goal is that this will be uh something that will provide a nice return for all of you all and for us, and for us.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a win-win. Uh we've got a lot of crock comments. I think we can end the stream here. Yeah, we're we're done. We're done. We gotta make some movies so we can get Jansen new shoes. Listen, this is the thing. I got plenty of shoes, man. I just love these.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh oh, yeah, hold on. We need a Janice Stormy Cromer. Where do you see that? This is the um um Felix Brothers.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh crap.

SPEAKER_01:

Go back up. I this this is so hard to scroll. You can't uh um here it is. We need a Janice Stormy Cromer partnership for hats apparel. Uh yes. I actually know some folks at Stormy Cromer, so I don't know why we haven't done this yet. Uh it's it maybe in the works. Maybe I'll wear my stormy crum crumer. Maybe that'll be the thing this week. I'll wear I've got my wax canvas Stormy Crumer. Yeah. It's okay, it's a hat, folks. They're really cool. Yeah. Very Midwestern, upper Midwestern. All right. Um, any last comments before we sign off? No guarantees. No guarantees, says Mark, on in terms of um return. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, well, thank you all so much for uh tuning in. Uh this has been a really fun one. This has been a lot of fun. Well, there's been a lot of comments. Sorry if we didn't get to yours. Uh we will uh again just the the bigger that the stream gets, the harder it is to keep up with the comments, but we we're we really want to do our best in keeping up uh with what you guys are saying. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Um so a couple of pieces of announcement before we pieces of announcement. Of course, before we sign off, we will be providing a lot more updates through WeFunder and through our social media on the WeFunder campaign. And we will be hosting a webinar. The chat is ripping me a new one. That's just the status quo. Um, we'll be uh hosting a webinar. Uh the tentative date for that is next Friday, the 19th. Yes. Okay. And so if um we will be we we will confirm that in our social media and on on WeFinder if you're uh interested in learning more. It's gonna be a QA with Mark Zwag and me. Yes, here at the Janice Motorcycle Shop. If it isn't, then we will have it in the coming weeks. Yes. But uh, we're really excited about this whole uh endeavor. We really appreciate all of you all have contributed or who are considering and contributing, or who just own or are excited about Janus Motorcycle. So we really appreciate you all, and we're really excited about 2026 and all the great things that it's going to bring.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's end it on one last question here. This is a uh yes or no question, Richard.

SPEAKER_01:

How about a small displacement four-stroke Janice version of a Vespa? Maybe. That wraps up this episode of the Ramblestream Podcast. Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the show, subscribe wherever you listen, share it with a fellow Rambler, and please consider leaving a rating. And join us live every Monday at 7 p.m. on YouTube for our weekly ramble stream. You can also find us at ramblestreampod.com and on social at ramblestream. We'll be back next week with more conversations, more stories, and of course, more rambling. And remember, many of those who ramble may very well be lost, but that's probably the point.