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Crocs, Configurators, and Controversy
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A sidecar legend just took a hard turn, and we’re here for the full unpack. We trace Ural’s storied path, from postwar BMW roots to the snow‑crushing charm of the Gear Up, and confront the moment everything changed: sanctions, a factory move, and the debut of the Neo 500 built with Yingang. It’s lighter on nostalgia, heavier on modern cues, and aiming under $15K. But does a seven‑inch screen and ADV silhouette add value to a niche that runs on character, or does it blur the very story that kept sidecars alive?
We break down the specs and the stakes: roughly 736 pounds, about 35 horsepower at the wheel, a leading‑link front end, and a promise of broader availability and lower cost. Then we ask the harder question: what do riders actually want from a heritage brand? We explore the tradeoffs between authenticity and accessibility, why certain designs age gracefully while others feel disposable, and how community, parts ecosystems, and hands‑on serviceability create lasting value that outlives any model year.
Along the way, we share how we’re tackling the same realities on our side of the shop: tightening supply chains, implementing real MRP, promoting seasoned leaders, and pushing toward 30‑day lead times without losing the analog joy and visible mechanics that define our bikes. We even dive into a fresh Griffin 250 build on the configurator and a quick detour through a vintage tin sidecar toy that still makes us smile. If you care about why motorcycles matter, beyond numbers and screens, you’ll find plenty to chew on here.
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From Livestream #109 - 12/15/25
Hello everyone. Welcome to the Ramble Stream Podcast.
SPEAKER_00:I'm Richard. And I'm Jansen. Each week we sit down for rambling conversations about motorcycles, the experience of riding, design, and whatever else catches our fancy. Bring a beverage of your choice or stories, and we'll see where this takes us.
SPEAKER_01:If you're interested in thoughtful conversations, friendly and informative banter with fellow riders, and the latest dispatches from Janus Motorcycles headquarters, you're in the right place. Let's get started. We're here. I need a bigger mess. I need a bigger own mess, too, because that's mine, and I have to reconnect it every time you you step. Sorry. Hello. Good evening, and so welcome to Ramble Stra Ramble Stream episode 109. Um, we're back for another uh ramble with all of you all, and we're excited. We have we're gonna be trying out another new idea. We're gonna talk about some like motorcycle-related news and we want your all's input. Oh, we gotta have your y'all's input. I have to. But first, Jansen, why don't you start us off? Tell us tell us a little bit about yourself. When um if you're new to the ramble stream, tell what we the kind of the format we follow is tell us where you're viewing from, who you are, what you ramble with, and what you are sipping on this evening.
SPEAKER_00:I'll go first. Go for it, Jan. My name is Jansen. I'm coming to you live at uh Janice's HQ in more specific, in a more specific fashion in the Ramble Stream studio. Isn't it beautiful? Isn't it lovely? Can you tell that the light champ temperature is different because we updated it? I uh also you have a filter on the camera. I do, I do. It should be like a little warmer. We're just updates all around, you know? Okay. We're gonna ignore it and we're gonna talk about it later. Uh I ramble or I I I ramble in a Ford Lightning and on my feet, and that but I'm assumed to be Rambler in Phoenix, a Phoenix 450 in two years.
unknown:Three years.
SPEAKER_01:Fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:Four years.
SPEAKER_01:My name is Richard Worsham, um co-founder here and head of design. I am broadcasting from the Ramble Studio, downtown Goshen. What a good place. Freezing cold. Actually, it's below, well, well below freezing. It's very cold. It was four degrees this morning.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And my one of the vehicles I ramble with, a 2013 uh Volkswagen Jetta TDI Sportwagen. Ooh, the Sportwagen. Uh is diesel and it didn't start. And and we'll see if it starts this evening. This evening. Um I also ramble with a 2009 Kawasaki KLR and a 2017 Halcyon 250 number, serial number 68. And I am sipping on a lovely sip of this Wolfert Halcyon Reserve 23 starter. It's got the name on it and everything. This is uh Yeah, sent into us just this week by Mr. John Wolford himself. Little care package. Has a Janice Halcyon 450.
SPEAKER_00:Does and it is beautiful. Thank you, John. Thanks. Cheers. Oh, that's what I'm sipping on. Also, I didn't say that. You're tipping on that. I was afraid I hadn't been I wasn't paying attention and you'd already said it all. I'm glad you did. Um, also, if Richard hits his mic uh stand, just know that he's done it six times already tonight.
SPEAKER_01:So uh if you would like to catch more of me knocking the um the uh the the mic, you can join our pre-ramble. Uh tell us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, pre-ramble is uh just one of the three perks that you get when you join our membership here. Uh I think it's$6.99 a month, and you get uh it's like a free or not free. It's it's it's not free. It is 30 minutes uh before the actual ramble stream of us like talking about whatever. Uh sometimes giving a little inside scoop about the episode coming up, um, talking about you know what we're thinking about, uh what we're drinking, uh official urban reviews um and stuff like that, as well as uh members only shorts and a week early access to our videos that will be cut starting uh in January. There you go. So that's what you get with the membership. You guys can join uh by hitting the join button. It should be just right below the video. But I think more importantly than that, our first comment was Kelly. He said Crocs. And I've got great news for everyone. Crocs. Not real Crocs, though. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Some would say they're knockoff Crocs, some would say they're knockoff Burks, they're probably knockoff Kirks. Um, a little bit of both. So that's what I'm wearing today. Uh Janice McRyder is here, of course, knocking on my my Birkin stocks, my knockoff ones. I'm just I'm hoping to just lyric avoid the copycat Birkin stocks, all the little crowns. I have that turned off now. He's just talking crap in the chat. Who else is here?
SPEAKER_01:Speedracer 95, Maryland, Harford County, number 1209, Halcyon 250. Genie. It's a fantastic name for a motorcycle vehicle, shall we say, especially if you're a fan of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Creepy kitty snatch. Read the book. No, read the book if you want to know why. That movie terrified me. The yeah, that was a this it's it's a good movie, but it's not at all like the book. Um uh it's cold as hell down here in Maryland, sipping on ice cold milk, eating dark chocolate, caramel candy.
SPEAKER_00:We should we should bring more snacks. Not a very pleasant audio experience, though. Right. We got Uncle Voodoo in here between the Neo 500 and the House Young 450. I pick the House Young 250. Nice!
SPEAKER_01:You feel that's a great comment. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Awesome. Let's go toward the middle here to pick up some chats. We've got Arlesberg Clipper. How are you doing? He says hello. Hey, Arlesberg. We've got uh Walrus 647. This one's all you, Richard.
SPEAKER_01:Hey everyone, Ed from Bartow, Florida, still rambling in a 2009 Silverado. Nice sipping on water and black coffee, dinner time for me. We'll listen to Ramble Stream tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00:Stay frosty. Well, hello to you on this fine Tuesday morning, which is probably what you're listening. Who else? We got Randy Howell. He's talking about the uh the ride video. Is that the Rocky Mountains? I think there might be some Rocky Mountain ride footage in there. I'm not entirely sure though. Let's see, who else? All you, Richard.
SPEAKER_01:We got Craig Dovell. Hi, Craig. Um, greetings from Illinois, proud owner of Halcyon 440 number 066, enjoying some alert. Cheers. Cheers. I I if there if I had a we were just talking about this. If I had some alert, I would I would have a shot with you.
SPEAKER_00:I wouldn't, I wouldn't, but I'd I'd watch you suffer. Are you sipping on the Malort or are you like just pounding it? There's something about that stuff that is repulsive. Um, and by something I mean everything because it just covers your tongue and your mouth with that flavor, and it's impossible to get rid of. We've got uh pickle juice does a really good job. I don't like pickles. Neither do I. I guess which do I like more important? Gary Smith is here, hi from East Lansing, Michigan, Housey on 50 number 11, halcyon 280 number 79, halcyon 450 number three, Phoenix 250, uh number 79, Griffin 250 number 163, Phoenix 250, number 1020, 1972 Triumph Trident, a 1980 Honda Seattle 200, a 1990 Harley Davidson Sportster, 883 Sportster, a 2017 Ural Gear Up. So, Gary, we're gonna want your input on some of the stuff we're talking about. Yeah, we'll be talking about the new Ural Neo 500 later uh tonight. We've got Confed Yank here, of course, our our lonely Twitch viewer. We're so glad you're there, and moderator. What a wonderful, what a wonderful thing. Who else we got here? Jason 412 says fist, Kelly says fist. Yeah, confed Yank says fist. Okay. We've got Puck 971 here. Semtech says fist. I that's enough. I think we're done. So what's up, Felix Brothers? They're here as well. Chris Smith. Chris Smith, where is he at? Here he is, right there.
SPEAKER_01:Says, uh, went to Baumgartners in Monroe, Wisconsin for a Limburger and Braunschweiger sandwich. Don't miss the opportunity.
SPEAKER_00:Well, there you go, folks. Is it a Braunschwager? My dad would always use that as like he messed it up. Like I braunschwaggered it. Oh, really? Uh-huh. I've never heard that. I mean, my family is German, so Braunschweiger. I actually don't know what a Braunschweiger is. I don't know either. I wouldn't if Chris knows, I'm I'm interested. Uh, I'm not a fan of the Ural Neo. Keep it retro and original. I mean, we'll talk about that more later. Um, my mom ate that stuff. What is it? I don't know what it's like. That's Mark Zwag. He's our CFO. Hello, Mark. He's also on the board. Very cool guy. Well, it's kind of like bologna, but softer. How do you get softer than bologna? That's baloney. It's like a spread. I don't know. I'm confused. I'm not trying one. I refuse. Richard, I think uh I think it's time. For a little poetry? For a little poetry. Nice.
SPEAKER_01:Well that this evening, I'm really excited about this one. Um, this is a book. I've I've told you all this before. This is a book I I found and I just picked it up because it was in this bookstore that has really good taste. I think they must have maybe they got a collection of books from somebody that just was really You don't you are you doubting this in stores? Anyway This poem I did not read the whole book before I bought it. Um sometimes I do, but um I have a personal connection with this. Temo. You said you read the whole book. Not always no, I'm saying like if it's a book of poetry, you read the whole book before you like skim the whole thing.
SPEAKER_00:That's crazy. I mean, especially if I don't know what it is, you don't take the risk. Uh no.
SPEAKER_01:Um anyway. This is called Reading a 1979 inscription on Belly's Monument. Now, this does this is gonna take a little bit of explanation. You're gonna have to give me some context. Belly was a very famous uh Roman poet from the 19th century. So this is not an antique Roman poet. This is like 19th century Rome. He wrote in something called um, oh my goodness, I'm gonna forget what it's called. The um it's got a it's a it's a term, but it's it was a it was a dialect of Roman uh a Roman dialect from the 19th century. So kind of like a version of Italian that was like more slant, like Cockney for London, but maybe something like that. Yeah. I don't know. I've never really I don't speak Italian enough to know what uh it is.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, he was famous, and there was a there's a famous statue of him that was uh put up in the um early 20th century, and it's at the end of the Via Trastevere, uh right across from the um island in the middle of the Tristere, that's uh really be in the middle of the Tiber in Rome. Really, really cool, and I've spent time eating street food at on the statue. Anyway, I found I was like, oh my gosh, I know this poem. It resonated. It resonated, and uh anyway. Here you go. Um reading a 1979 inscription on Belly's monument by James Wright. It is not only the Romans who are gone, but Belly, unhappy unhappy a century ago, won from the world his fashionable stone. Where it stands now, he doesn't even know. Across the Tiber, near Tristevere, his top hat teetered on his head with care, brushed like a gentleman he cannot see, the latest Romans who succeed him there. One of them bravely climbed his pedestal and sprayed a scarlet merda on his shawl. This afternoon, I pray his hidden grave lies nameless somewhere in the hills while rain fusses and frets to rinse away the stain. Rain might erase when marble cannot save. Anyway, uh the statue also has a what's called a term uh which is a um they were it's basically a Janus head. Okay, but it's a four-sided Janus head. Oh, that is a copy of the from across the river on the bridge, uh and um from the ponds fibricious, which is the oldest functional, basically unrepaired Roman bridge in the world. It's just completely intact, dates from you know, like 2,000 years ago, and there's still cars going over it. Well, unrepaired? Well, I mean it's like been maintained, but it's not being rebuilt. Okay, okay. Um, yeah. Been just maintained.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, the last line of this is how how rain here's your jettis grinder. I hope you're listening. Uh commentary. How how rain uh kind of washes away everything, no matter how hard it is, or how like deep it is. Very interesting. Very interesting. Profound, profound, Vincent. I uh, you know, I've I've seen rocks out in the wild. Hello everybody from Greensboro, North Carolina, Lenny here, house on 250, number 1230 from Glenfidditch. No, he's drinking. Oh, he's drinking. Glenfidditch. Glenfiddch. 15 year. I've I don't know what that is. It's a single malt scotch. Okay. I don't drink scotch. Pretty good stuff. I might like scotch. Uh David says, I followed the WeFunder link and it's broken. Oh. 404 error. You're kidding me. Are you talking about the one in the description?
SPEAKER_01:We have it also posted in the YouTube, the description below the video. Um, we also posted it in the email before this, and then in another email we sent out today. We sorry we were kind of spamming you. Yeah. But it's a really cool opportunity. Do you want to talk about the WeFunder real quick? Yeah, real quick, let's talk about it. Um, WeFunder is a um crowdfunding um way for well, it's not better than crowdfunding, it's not really crowdfunding. It's it's actually an investment tool using uh the Form C investment, which allows uh non-accredited and accredited investors to uh purchase shares in a company. And we are offering shares in Janus Motorcycles right now. It's uh about to go live. I mean, it is live in the sense that the form C has been filed um and it is uh it is um in in play. So oh, there it is. It's broken. I don't know how that happened. Well, we can well we can we can uh we can fix that on the server right now. Anyway, um we're really excited about this. We're raising one million dollars to help us to launch into 2026. 2026 is going to be an amazing year of growth for us here at Janice Motorcycles. Uh, we have been working very, very hard over the last year to address some of the challenges that have um come along with being a really small manufacturer. Um for over a decade now. We've been manufacturing a um different, well, a wide range of motorcycles, all the way going back to our 50cc Halcyon, our 250 line, our 450 line. Um, and we're really small, it's very it's very capital intensive to manufacture motorcycles. As I always say, you you can't deliver a motorcycle if it's missing one part, and there are thousands of components that go into every single motorcycle. So orchestrating all that, making sure that we can carry all the inventory required um and and have all ever all the pieces in place is very difficult. And it's it it it it it is and part of the reason that we um we just we've we've had long lead times on our motorcycles, and getting all that worked out over the last year, we have a new inventory management system, an MRP system. We have what's that? It's some promotions internally. We have and we have the p the experience on board starting about a year ago. We brought on two very experienced um uh folks to the team, and one of those is uh Scott Ferguson. Scott is our came on board as our global supply chain director, and the other is Bill Seals, who came on as our purchaser, basically. Um, and both of them bring decades of experience. Scott uh worked under Eric Buell for almost about a decade at the with Buell Motorcycles. If you know any of that story, you know about how I've always looked up to Eric Buell and the story of that. I remember the day he made the announcement that Harley Davidson was shutting him down and with tears in his eyes. It was um yeah, I've always been really um inspired by what he was able to do.
SPEAKER_00:My favorite Buell memory, and that feels like a weird thing to say. Uh uh my favorite and favorite and only Buell memory is Chase riding his brother's Buell. I can't remember what model it is, but it's the belt-driven one. And that thing shakes like a hardly. It's because it has a big old V-twin and it's it's it was the sport bike, the gnarliest thing I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01:Um uh but anyway, Scott, that that's one of many places he's worked in the motorcycle industry with supply chain. And uh the other is Bill, uh, who uh has been instrumental in implementing our MRP system, which sounds like no big deal, but uh it is one of the most difficult things a manufacturing company can do is to implement that. Um, it's also one of the most valuable things that you can do. It's uh just completely transformed our ability to um get parts in when we need them, forecast our um costs, and schedule deliveries. So we're gonna we're really excited to see that coming uh coming on fully online in the coming months. And we're also excited to announce that we have promoted both Bill and Scott to uh VP positions at Janus. So um Scott is now our vice president of supply chain and global sourcing, and Bill is our vice president of operations. Um and it is I'm just um over the moon about it. Um having someone who can with bring that level of experience to a small operation like what we do. We've we've been doing this for so long, really learning it on the fly. And um I j I joke kind of reinventing the wheel and building some respect.
SPEAKER_00:Reinventing the wheel and with a wheel and building the plane as it's flying. In yeah, in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_01:And we've and it's it's been our strength in a lot of ways. Because we can think we can do things very quickly, and we can do things that other people uh wouldn't have the daring to do, maybe or the experience knowledge to do. The nuts. Right. Dare Dare I, but uh we are maturing as a company and we have really big plans to expand our ability to produce. Our goal is to get lead times down to 30 days. Yeah. Um, that's gonna be huge, and to be building 12 plus bikes a week. So very, very exciting. Um, new facilities that we're we're uh excited about being able to see in the coming months. Yeah, a lot of a lot of really big exciting news there. So that all is part of this we fund. This we funder will help us to do that, it will help us to um launch new models like the Phoenix 450 and um uh really expand our production. So we're just over the moon. This this is an opportunity for you all to be able to participate, to actually first and foremost to help us out with what we're doing, be part of it, and to own a share in in Janus Motorcycles. Yeah, and and uh so we're really excited about that. If you're curious to learn more, please visit our WeFunder page on the WeFunder platform. Have you updated that? I have updated the link. The link is updated. Um, you can also just search um either Janus or our official business name, Paragon Motorcycles, WeFunder, and you'll find us there. Um, and there's a lot of information, more information than than you probably need, but um uh on our our financials, um, and then we've been doing just last week starting doing regular updates on there. So we'll be sharing those. Very exciting news.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Uh I've got a very cool comment to share. Well, first, leave Jansen alone, his shoes are fine, stop pounding the guy. I got you back, Jason. I knew I knew someone did speed racer. I knew someone in here had to. Uh that is a cool comment. Uh, very uh other cool comment is Josh here, an American expat living on the coast of Ecuador, just finished a 22,000 mile 110-day solo ride visiting 49 national parks in the lower 48 on my 2003 hardly soft tail. Well done, sir. Holy smokes. That's great. That's uh that's crazy. I would love to hear about your experience, Josh, if you want to just kind of give us your your tales in the chat. Uh, but in the meantime, I think it's time to build an inventory bike. So don't you think?
SPEAKER_01:So, yeah. Um, did we get any suggestions? Or we're not doing that quite yet.
SPEAKER_00:Uh for for the build?
SPEAKER_01:No, no suggestions. I think we're that's something we're gonna start doing. Okay. Is um if you wanna um we'll we'll be doing some posts and we can uh get your suggestions for for builds. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:450. 450. What? We did a Griffin. What have we done? I don't know. The Griffin 250 because that also, if you guys build a Griffin 250 and submit your order uh or submit your uh build sheet, you can get a chance to win 50% off um of the base price.
SPEAKER_01:So um let's Arlsberg says still no builds getting done. No, we are absolutely getting plenty of builds done. Not um not 12 bikes a week, but um, we're building motorcycles. Um we did we have been uh suffering from continued supply chain issues, um, which we are we're working through. That's a big part of ten dollars.
SPEAKER_00:Engine shoe finds you probably get like four pairs of it. Listen, uh this isn't out of uh this this shoe choice is not out of lack of funds. This shoe choice is a completely uh free will choice. I love these things, I don't need new shoes.
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, we're we're Osberg, that's a good question, though. We are no we're absolutely building bikes. Um some of them um are they're just like missing a seat or a fuel pump. Yes. So um we will get back to doing some builds of the week in the future. But yeah, um in the meantime, I think we also think we're we're really excited about just showing um this build process, especially for um folks, even if you've already built a bike, but if you haven't built one, um it's fun to to build them out and see the different combinations. I like the pink suggestion. I wish we had a pink.
SPEAKER_00:I wish I wish we could take like I wish there was a color wheel that we could choose any single color from to pick. Kelly would Kelly would love that. Oh, sure, she would. Sure. Mark's wag says 1992. Come on, guys. Jansen's gonna have like 15 pairs of shoes here. Guys, it's stop. I like my shoes. I don't know what else. Oh boy. This is gonna go toward the uh teamers true fund. This isn't gonna go for the I'm I'm I'm a little flabbergasted. Guys, this isn't the uh my shoes are fine. I like my shoes. I I legitimately love them. Let's build a bike, let's grid, let's build any any bike suggestions. I want a Phoenix 450. I mean, you can call Mitch right now.
SPEAKER_01:We're still working on the configurator for that.
SPEAKER_00:We are, but you can call Mitch right now and get your name in for one. Kelly, another dollar, and I'm assuming that's just gonna go toward the Jansen shoe fun. Um all right, enough about these stupid shoes. Let's keep hoping. I can't I can't stop when there's super chats coming in, Richard. Okay. Um what do we want to build? Um we've done some halcyons.
SPEAKER_01:Let's let's let's let's look at some griffins. Let's do F 250 Griffin. Okay. 250.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Maze. The maze is the what it starts with, but let's not do black. Let's do something bright. Let's do um let's do oh, whoa. What about the um what about the uh yeah that one? Ooh, pinland sea sea foam green.
SPEAKER_00:I like I like that uh that's a nice color. Ooh. Okay, any pinstripe suggestions? Let's get these quick. I would love to hear just some fire pinstripe suggestions. Uh while we're waiting for pinstripe suggestions. Question on the contest. If we win, can we use the value towards any Janice?
SPEAKER_01:Um, my I think the I think it's for 250. Is that right? Yes, it's for 250. Yes, two for a 250. Um, I believe it's for a either a Griffin 250 or a house 250.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. There's the answer to your question. Uh bright red. Okay, let's do it. Done. Sold. Alright. No, I like it. I'm not fan. Chances not so much. Second pinstripe? We'll go second. What if we what if we put this one at uh we gotta somehow tie in the feather color. Right? No, I like that. No, I don't like that. You're gonna say no to that one too. That's alright. That one that one's giving fire engine. Ooh, that was kind of sick. What about green?
unknown:Green.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, that's cool. We've done like a Christmas bike every week. We gotta get the fender pinstripe, of course. Let's do wheel pin stripe too. Can we see can we see that in the in the configurator? I'm gonna look at these comments while we're in this. Yeah, you can see that in the configurator. I like that a lot. Okay. Um color match frame? Yes or no? Uh man, with that color, you feel like I'm cool. Especially with the black down engine. Ooh, black secondary pinstripe. Okay, let's let's change. That's from Arlsburg. Let's change Arlsburg just in here with a heater suggestions. Black. Do we not have a oh that's wheel. Um, yeah, that's cool. That's better than green, I will say. Do we like the gold feather?
SPEAKER_01:I'll try something different.
SPEAKER_00:Let's go. Where is it at? Let's go. That works too. I think it's just it's it's it's a lot of colors going on, you know. I I think the silver kind of neutrals it out. I like the brown with this, but let's see what the black looks like. The black is like the black. The black said. Polish. Ooh, that looks good.
SPEAKER_01:Number plate? There's a number plate.
SPEAKER_00:Oh. Oh, there's an example. There's a photographic. That's not on the configurator yet. Oh, you can what's what is a color match ratio look like? I think I like the black better. What are the comments saying?
SPEAKER_01:Um key jacket. Color match, yes.
SPEAKER_00:Um we gotta do the cargo rack. Because it's a griffin. We gotta do the front the the tie-downs, of course, and we have to do the Corn D Tasslers. I think that's it. I think that's our bike.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, let's just real quick, I'll switch out the primary color. I just want to see the one.
SPEAKER_00:Let's what what other color?
SPEAKER_01:Um, let's go with see the vintage red. See, see that that looks like that's really dark.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:That's actually pretty cool. I like it. I like that a lot.
SPEAKER_00:The black? I like that a lot. I'll go blue. Blue. And then we'll then we'll move on. Ah, sorry, it's all right. It's giving me 4th of July to me, but I I like the can't be a very 1920s color there. I like that a lot. That's like just subtle enough, but just like just much too much uh or just the right amount of pop if I could speak. Driven 250 with a fly screen. We don't have that on the configurator, but that's a good idea. Yeah, this uh you would it would have to either be the fly screen or the number plate, right? Like you couldn't do both.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah, you have to do one or the other.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Maze, maybe we'll do a maze one later. I don't know. We'll see. Looks cool. I think that's it. That that looks that looks choice. That's what that's the color you're gonna do for your Phoenix 450? No, no. My Phoenix 450 450, I think, is gonna be um a custom color. Speed racer says looks cool. I I agree. I agree. I think I think that's a good color combo. I I saw old school, I think he's in here, um, which means he's really fist, he's really gonna like um Yeah, you're gonna like the thing. The thing that we've got. So Richard, do you want to Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Um the thing I this is so old school, please. If you're in the yeah, you're in there, tell us about this because you're the expert on these kinds of things. But um, I have a little toy. This is a tin um pressed metal uh toy sidecar rig. And it has it's it's a wind up, so it has a key. It works. And it works, although I think one of my daughters lost the um drive chain. So it has it actually has real sprockets. It has a counter shaft sprocket and a rear sprocket. And then right right on the front of the engine, it has a key, and you can if you can tap it.
SPEAKER_00:A little ASMR than you.
SPEAKER_01:And it goes around in a circle. But he's got his um lady in the sidecar all bundled up. She's got a little uh little muff on and he's got his little hat and his tie. It's definitely a single cylinder, vertical single cylinder. Yeah, what do you think the CC is? Oh man, this thing's probably I want to say it's a 350. Okay. All right. Maybe it's a 500.
SPEAKER_00:Um does it weigh 760 pounds?
SPEAKER_01:But it's a sidecar. Um, and I got this for Christmas from my wife like eight years ago. This is a reproduction. This is not an original, um, but it's it's just like the old ones.
SPEAKER_00:Speed Racer is asking me to hold it closer to the camera, so I'm gonna do that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:While you chat about it.
SPEAKER_01:If you have any uh it's funny, it was a fun little uh trinket to put under the Christmas tree. Um very realistic bike, but it's all just pressed metal with these little like tabs that are folded over to hold it together.
unknown:Isn't that neat?
SPEAKER_01:It's like um antique roadshow. I like that. Right. Yeah. So um so so uh old school is an expert in these kinds of toys. If you uh are able to tell us anything about that toy, please do so.
SPEAKER_00:So much so that he set up a Hans and Franz Mark says he set up a like a little table uh the last two years. Yeah, the last couple years at the owner's rally.
SPEAKER_01:Any manufacturer any manufacturer marks? Here, hold on, let's let's see. Um, it just says made in China just like my Crocs.
SPEAKER_00:This is a reproduction, but it's it's pretty cool. Uh Mark asks, does the girl passenger have Crocs on? He has nice little like boots on, little button boots. Button boots. This is a really good idea from Semtech. Janice Limited Edition handmade Amish Leather Jansen team moves with reinforced toe shifting pad and the double J's on the sole for inputs in the sand. Talk to Mark Borkman, though. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll get it done. Um reproduction of the paya. Of the paya. I'm gonna look that up. Of the paya. Thank you. Thank you, old school. Oh, that's very cool. Now, do we have any any news that we want to talk about?
SPEAKER_01:Well, we covered the um the VFinder and we covered briefly the um what the half-off. What is the technical term for that? Dream bike build. Dream bike build. Um, if you're not familiar with that, go to any of our social media um and there's a number of you could you need to follow us on different social media platforms and build a bike on our configurator. And you can you're entered to win half off of a house, all right, 250 GNS, and we're gonna be selecting a winner at the end of the year.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and starting, I think today, if you um, you know, go ahead and put the deposit on your bike, you get a free uh engraved gas cap. That's right. Uh if you entered into that giveaway. Yeah. So it feels like an upbraider to me, right? You you put the build in, you buy the bike, you might get half off. It's a win-win. Um Huntley Psycho Co. says, my wife is enjoying her journal.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, awesome. She's a she's a past Ramble stream winner. Y'all instructed me not to touch it.
SPEAKER_00:Nice. Did we though? So I I think uh I don't know how to introduce this next segment. It's it's gonna be ramble adjacent, right? Um, but it's gonna be more kind of directed toward um a something specific. Like, I don't know, the Ural Neo 500. Richard, you oh yeah, this is my story.
SPEAKER_01:So um this is an updated story. Uh just came out um last week. Let me pull this up. Pull up the yeah, share the story. So this is a um story that Cycle World put out. Now, this is not brand new news that I've been see hearing leaks of this since uh about a year ago. Um in Ural uh put out, or they brought one over for test rides up in Seattle, which is their world headquarters actually now. Um so maybe a little background on Ural. Yeah. Um if you're not familiar with Ural, Ural, and probably most of you are, Ural is uh a Russian um motorcycle manufacturer. Uh it's been building bikes since right after World War II. Um, and the really interesting story on these is that they are copies by the Soviets of the BMW, the German World War II BMW sidecar rig. Um and then the Chinese made another, I'm forgetting the name of the Chinese knockoff, but the Chinese version was a copy of the Soviet copy of the BMW. It's not by Xing Shang or something. No, no, no, no. This is an old this they've been making it for a very long time. Okay, and it's it's it's the same. So they're a boxer, um, horizontally opposed boxer with a powered sidecar wheel. No, not all of them are are that way. Now, Gary Smith um has the gear up, which is does have the powered uh sidecar wheel. Uh they're really, really neat. That's really cool. Now, I think Urals kind of uh Tony 20 years ago were a kind of they were it's as people talk about sidecars, I think they even mentioned in this article it's like a niche within a niche. Yeah, it's a very specialized group of people that like sidecars. Yeah, um, I count myself among that that that crowd. Um they're a lot of fun, but they're very different than riding a motorcycle. Yeah, um, it's you know you don't you don't lean. Um and so as Gary mentions, they typically use um a leading link front end uh because that is so strong for lateral loading and um it's really operating like a car um in that sense. However, it only has three wheels, so unlike a car, you can't turn left the same way that you turn right, right? Because you'll flip over. Thanks. Uh if you if you make a but depending on which side the sidecar is on, um a hard right or left in turn turn. Anyway, your role uh in the last 10, 15 years, their quality really went up. They used to talk about uh and I'm gonna mess the story up, but the alternator or something like that, they called it like the Molotov cocktail because it would like come loose and then just like grenade the motor. Good luck. And and then and they had other things like just assembly issues, right? Wiring. Usually you just had to like when you bought one, then you go through, you had to go through the bike and like sort it out. Interesting. Um, but in recent years, they really the quality got a lot better. Um, I've ridden a number of Urals, they're uh just really, really fun. They're not very powerful, um, and they're very heavy, but you can just have so much fun on them. Um, they're not something you're getting on the highway. It's like a Janice.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, just very traditional design, full of character, wonderful machines. So then they had the uh the um Russian invasion happened, and a lot of sanctions were put on Russia and Ural um uh had to move out of their urbit factory and they moved to Kazakhstan. They moved their entire operation. Wow. The story of Ural is worth reading the history. The current owner. And um CEO, what he's tried to do with it. Anyway, the supply chain problems that they faced did not go away with their move to Kazakhstan. Yeah. They were still making motorcycles for the Russian market in Airbit in the Ural Mountains, which they're named after. Um, but uh lots of lots of issues. Their main market uh for the Ural is the US. So they I guess the decision was made that they're going to switch all their production to China um to a company called Yingang. And Yin Yang has been already making a sidecar. And so I think that they did is they just kind of took now I maybe I'm misphrasing this, they uh took an existing sidecar model and they have gone through and according to their you know, allegedly the quality it meets Ural standard. Um so this is but you can see here what the this is what they this is what the this is what they do. It's called the and they're just differentiating it from the original Urals by the neo-Ural name. So this this is like a 500cc uh uh uh parallel twin. That is so obviously they're not going for the retro old school Russian copy of a German BMW design. They're going more like a copy of a modern German GS design. It looks like a like a kind of a BMW BMW GS.
SPEAKER_00:Or kind of like uh what is what's Ducati's uh multistrata? Multistrata, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's a very modern design and um it still retains the leading link front end. Um these are renderings of the um bike, they're not the actual one. I think down lower in the post there are some pictures of the um Neo, or sorry, this is the the uh yin yang bike is so low mountain. So the other thing is that this is not gonna be marketed to the off-road world. Right. The Ural with its two-wheel drive was an amazing off-road snow. I I when I I used to live out in South Bend and it gets a lot more snow than here in Goshen. And uh I'd go to the Fiddler's Hearth bar, it's like an Irish pub, and this guy. Like if it was really snowy out, he knew he was gonna roll in on his Ural, just rolls in on his Ural like just blizzard conditions. He's like sliding around. That's probably pretty fun, really. Oh, it's a oh my gosh, he looks like he's on a blast. Well, look at this guy. But that's a gear up, that's a gear up. That's the original old school. Okay, uh, I think it's an 850.
SPEAKER_00:That look at that thing looks so much better. Like if we're going on looks alone, specs out the out the trash. I mean, that looks so much better than the is it though? The specs. So let's talk about horsepower. Okay, according to this article, yeah. It's 736 pounds. And the old one was 730. Which isn't the same. Oh, what is this little the yin the yin gang SUV 502 closely resembles the upcoming Euro 500 as the company will manufacture it on behalf of Euro. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:But the Euro version is going to be a street-oriented bike. But it looks exactly the same. Yeah, it's basically the same bike. But it looks worse. So they've well, they've they've they've taken a very looks very much like a Euro sidecar, a sidecar at least, and put it on this thing. So anyway. 736. 7.36. This bags that oh yeah, the the the displacement's 450cc. It puts out 45.6 horsepower horsepower. With however however they're saying at the rear wheel it's gonna be more like 35. Now basically like a little more powerful than a 450 house hand, which is Arjanus. But but with like double the weight almost.
SPEAKER_00:So it's just like another car, right? Girls are 750, says Gary. Thank you, Gary. Not 850. Gary, we'd love your your take on what what you think this neo- Yeah, I mean, so the question then is it does seem like on some level this is a and I know motorcycle industry, like it's challenging, it's a difficult thing to do.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:But it does seem like they're it's a it's kind of a trade-off between heritage and and a tradition that in my opinion, they were starting to get really good at. Right. The quality was really going up. Right. And so but then they're faced with you know global sanctions. Right. Uh they had to move their factory, which was an original ancient factory, like using like Soviet-era machinery. It's kind of sad. It is, it feels almost like the death of the city. Well, I hope it's not a little bit. I hope it's not, but it does seem like a move of desperation because they basically are taking a Chinese bike and rebranding it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, to steer so far away from like the original design language feels crazy to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, but it's I mean, I get it, but it does beg the question is this going to appeal to this if they're if they're most of their market, global market, is going to the US. Yeah, the people that are that appreciate sidecars are people that appreciate they're not looking for performance. Right. Period. Right. Well, this isn't gonna have it. Well, no, but well, yeah, exactly. So I mean, but it but it but it not only does it not have performance, on some level, uh to me, it it's got a seven-inch touch screen. It it also lacks the character. Huh. It's got a big touch screen, it's got like they're they're they're marketing it to like this high tech, yeah, but it doesn't really have the performance to back that up. So to me, it seems like there's a little bit of a mixed.
SPEAKER_00:It feels like two, like they're playing tug of war between two things a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And so I'm I I by no means want to just like knock your old because I understand how difficult the position is, but it does sort of like I would love to hear the rationale behind.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, was this strictly cost prohibitive, right? Like, was it just a either the brand survives or uh we we die? It survives and we go this direction, or or we have to, we know call it quits and and be done. Arlberg has a good point.
SPEAKER_01:He says 5k, so it's it's they're shooting to be under 15,000. Back in the day, that was what you could get a you know for that, but now they're pushing. I mean, you can spend$25,000 on one of those things, and I think they start over$20,000.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so yeah, you could they're reducing the price significantly. That's a that's a really nice thing. Now, right. I just wonder if it's enough. I I mean you know, I would mention if it's a Chinese bike, yeah. Well, who cares about the Chinese part, right? I just want to ride it, right? Like I would love to ride one of the two. Uh yeah, I don't want to level the same kind of accusation that we get for using a Chinese engine, which is fantastic motor against them. Right. But at the same time, it's not like we're not rebranding a Chinese bike.
SPEAKER_00:Right. But if it I mean if it if it meets their standards, like is this just yeah, I I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I like I'm trying to it just seems like the the the story of Ural, the reason you buy Ural is not for the performance, it's for the character, yeah, and the the the the story of it. And and motorcycles are something that that matters, right? Right. Harley Davidson knows that and maybe may not be doing the right thing with it, right?
SPEAKER_00:Indian knows that. We know that. Right. There's just a there's a heritage that needs to be respected uh on some kind of capacity.
SPEAKER_01:And I would even argue that's important to motorcyclists more than cars because you're not buying a car for you're not buying a motorcycle for the same reasons you're buying a car, you're not buying it for practical reasons. Right.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I would argue that I mean even the the big three I mean Kawasaki, Honda, um Yamaha, they're they also respect the heritage that they've come up from. For Suzuki? Suzuki. Haybusa or whatever, I don't know. Um but yeah, this this this feels like a decision out of desperation.
SPEAKER_01:Uh Gary says, I heard the Ural factory is still having supply chain issues and the Chinese factory isn't. Yes, that is true. Yeah. And I I also hear that the Urals are still being made. Yeah. And that the that they claim that there's they're still gonna try and supply old school Urals, but they're they're completely sure. You can't buy one now in the States. Okay, but this is so this isn't just like, hey, this is what we are now. This is the no, they're very carefully that it sounds like, I mean, again, I'm just going off this article and a couple others that I've in some interviews I've listened to, but yeah, they're separating this is neo-ural. Okay. It's a it's even got its own web page.
SPEAKER_00:So that makes me feel a little better. Me too, right? From a strictly branding perspective, but at the same time, why keep the sidecar?
SPEAKER_01:So one last oh, here's one more comment. Is is it is this really the best tug they could identify? I get that they're having trouble getting the box, but this lacks any of the charm of that way. I I I agree. Um, but I think what what maybe a last thought on this would be um how do you confront modernity as a heritage I hate that word, heritage brand. As a brand that has a history, yeah, and that has a following, yeah that that values you for more than the the the sheer practicality, right? And that's what motorcycles are. That's what we that's what we build this around, is that um, and so how do you confront modernity? Do you go like appears that your neo-euro has all in? And so, but but but but with a sort of like a kind of a uh uh uh they're trying to hit two different things like you said it earlier, they're like trying to do two things at once, right? Do you try and go in like and make it modern, or do you try and make a kind of a a beautiful compromise? Right. And and maybe maybe they think this is a beautiful compromise. Yeah. Um leading link, all that stuff, but I think there are gonna be some questions. Right.
SPEAKER_00:I wonder if I I think it all comes down to to how it ri how you like it feels when you're riding it. Uh I I would imagine that uh it doesn't have the same quirks as the gear.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's not gonna have any of the same gear up, gear down, gear up, gear up. Well, the gear up, but there's all this, I mean there's they have a number they used to have a number of different models, not just the gear up. But um there's some good comments in there. Go back up a little bit. Yeah. Um I didn't catch what um what Uncle Voodoo said originally. Maybe you made a he made a video about it, but um go back down. Um you get it, Uncle Voodoo. It's gross looking. Yeah, we're missing a comment there. Um let's scroll up a little bit. It looks like they just bought a Chinese bike, slapped a sidecar on it, and rebranded it. Yeah, yeah. And Mark says, Voodoo, the Chinese make the whole thing like that under another brand. Yep. Um, right.
SPEAKER_00:It it's just a white-labeled version. It does seem like that. I hope I'm um it does seem like the headlights are a little different on this one on the Ural version, I guess, but yeah, at the same point, this this feels like very, very drastic.
SPEAKER_01:Is a gear up even worth 20k? Um, says Huntley Cycle Co. Like, like, like is that 20k worth of bike? Now, I mean, I would argue yes. I think that the the new Urals, you're not buying it for uh its performance. Um and I think that the price, I think it was probably pretty realistic for the amount of work that went into them. And and and when you see a Ural and you ride one, I mean, they have so much character. Right. And you it's like a Janice in the sense that you stop and people want to take pictures of it, they want to put their kid in the sidecar, like you can put your dog in it. It's just so much the experience you get out of it, is just it's it's like you're you're getting away with something when you ride around. It's like you're you're able you're living in the 1930s when there weren't laws. Like on the road, there weren't the same rules. Right, you could get it to whatever the heck you wanted a little bit. So I I would argue that the the Urals, especially with the quality improvements that they saw in in recent years, totally worth it. If I had that kind of money, I would spend it on a Ural. Yeah, absolutely. But you pay that kind of money because you know where it's being built, and because of the history, that's why you know why the story right. Yeah, like there's I mean, and Ural has crazy stories.
SPEAKER_00:It's super I think it's super cool. I I just I'm having a hard time understanding the the the choice here. Uh as much as I would like to give Ural the benefit of the doubt with the current constraints that I'm sure they're going through, like there had to have been a better way. Yeah, um, but but I mean I I hope it works for them. I mean, I personally wouldn't buy it. I just I think it it is is saying two things at once, and by that I mean it think it's saying nothing.
SPEAKER_01:But I and maybe like to kind of like building off of that last thing I said about like how do you confront modernity? I am not advocating and I've never advocated that we need to be just like caught in the past. Yeah, yeah. And so I s I commend Ural for continuing and providing a new option. I just think it illustrates how difficult that that balance of building a valuable storied thing is that and that's a challenge that we go through at Janice with our bikes, is like, how do you make these things modern? And then you get the people that are like, well, that's not period correct, that it has sorry if I'm insulting them in the chat. It's got disc brakes, that you that's not period correct or whatever. You're like, well, it's not trying to reference a period, it's trying to capture an essence of what a motorcycle should be. And some of that essence of what a motorcycle should be is like a machine that is full of character, that you can see the parts that's beautiful. And what we've been doing for the last 30 or 40 years with motorcycles, in my my estimation, as it pertains to the character and the experience, is a failure.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, not knocking a you know, beautiful 748 Ducati or whatever, like that does its job really, really well, right?
SPEAKER_00:I've found I found a barn find on Facebook Marketplace. 748? It's yellow. I'm going to look at it tomorrow. Really? Wow. Well, I should talk about that later because I'm going to need your help, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. Well, uh that'll be really cool. Anyway, but just to wrap it up, it's really hard. And I think this is one way to do it. Maybe it's not the best way to do it, but you're always working with constraints and compromise. I just I really hope that they've they've struck on a chord that's gonna hit the hit it's gonna hit a chord with the American buyer at the scale that they're gonna require to make it make sense. Yeah, GNS is we you know, we we we can kind of get away with doing what we want in some res regards because we don't need to have all of the market.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Yeah, I I I think this this bike that the the Neo brand would do really well outside of America. Um I think that in America, um, I kind of to your point, right? Like everyone is is wanting an essence. It is no, it's not it's not motorcycles aren't a tool in America. Um they they are, I mean, for the most part, a toy, right? Um, and we want our toys to speak to us. We want our toys to call to us and say, hey, hey, like you should ride me or hey, you should drive me, right?
SPEAKER_01:Uncle Voodoo says the problem with modernizing is that the more modern and high-tech things get, the less they age well. I think that's very well put. And I think that that actually illustrates a point about that kind of heritage brand thing, whatever, whatever marketing you know speak that is, that there's a real value in, and what we definitely try and do at Janus is that the the history is there's there's a uh a similarity across history, so that if there's a problem, that problem it gives customers and the manufacturer time to address it and to improve on it, right, and to come up with aftermarket supply chains for things, just like we have at Janice. Like you know, there's support for this thing, and and and like it's like the KLR, like the most aftermarket, not the maybe not the most, but like you can get just about any Fark or what you possibly want for a KLR because they didn't change it for 40 years, right, right. And there's that like if you're trying to get into the essence of like DIY and maintaining your vehicle yourself and the culture, the forums that abound around these things, yeah, that's the beauty of these things. And if you just slap uh a disposable product with your label on it, then you lose the heart of what it is. Right. And I think that that's maybe what concerns me about this. Yeah, so I think we thought this was be an interesting topic because it it's very similar to what we do, right? Modernizing an old idea, making it contemporary. Old Ural, neo, Neo Ural is like it's even neo is trying, I think they're still trying to do that, but like it's not that they put a sideker on it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but that's that's like because we have you know what this is this is giving me um uh the the phrase that I I really don't like is um well that's the way we've always done it. Yeah, like that's what that's what the neo is is giving. It's like that's the way we've always looked that's our trademark. That's how that's that's the way we've always done it.
SPEAKER_01:So wouldn't that also be the excuse for just not changing at all? Or shutting down your factory. We can't do it the same way we did, we're not gonna do it anymore. I think they could have said that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they but I think there there needs to be and I'm sure they are persistent, right? Like I not knowing the the inner workings. Oh, they're passionate, but I don't like I don't think this was the answer. Oh yeah, I mean that that may be true. We gotta think a little more technically. Time will tell. Time will tell. I'm I'm excited to see the 2026 or 2027 version of the Ural Neo 500C.
SPEAKER_01:Would it be would it have been that hard?
SPEAKER_00:To what?
SPEAKER_01:I think that the manufactur the the what is it, yin yang? I don't I think they actually made the the Chinese knockoff of the Ural.
SPEAKER_00:So so why didn't they go with a more like okay, I would love to get your that's a great what are they thinking? I don't know. There has to be a thought process here.
SPEAKER_01:I think that they're that they're trying to actually do a really difficult compromise with modernity and try and modernize a sidecar. Yeah, they're still gonna be the only people that make sidecars available in the US if they can pull it off. That's fair. For under$15,000? I mean, maybe that's a play. I I guess I'm not a young lad. But a seven-inch touchscreen TV thing on the front. Why is that on there?
SPEAKER_00:Maybe there's shoes for the young guys who don't know how to ride a motorcycle yet. Well, then don't ride a sidecar.
SPEAKER_01:No, Faye. I'm trying to try to help. No, me too. I mean, uh yeah, I'm I'm not trying to throw them into the bus. Ural sells between 500 and 800 motorcycles per year in the U.S.
SPEAKER_00:Or is that at?
SPEAKER_01:Gary. So not a whole lot more than James Motorcycle. So that feels so they they they also have a small share of the market. So why don't they do whatever they want?
SPEAKER_00:And well, I'm confused. The more we talk about this, the more confused I am.
SPEAKER_01:Uh oh, here we go. Uh confediang says, Richard, you prefer Neo 500 or Harley Davidson XL 440. Sorry, I'd take the Neo 500. I don't know what an XL 4004 XL 440 is Harley's new made in Lord only knows, um like little scrambler.
SPEAKER_00:An attempt to get into displacement. I'm sorry, it's hideous. Love it. We should look at that one next. I mean, I'd much rather take a sidecar.
SPEAKER_01:I don't care what it is.
SPEAKER_00:What is Janice thinking? I think he's using our own vernacular uh uh against ourselves. Oh, like what are we doing? We're we're treating Ural like what are you thinking? Like there has to be a lot of things. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we really have to watch ourselves right. What's Janice thinking? Like what that's a great great question.
SPEAKER_01:It's either it's either if he's trying to use his our logic against us or he's actually asking a legit question. Yeah, either way, I think it deserves an answer, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, what we're thinking is the same thing. It's how do we make a machine that's full of character and history and story and that provides a valuable experience and those things we other things we talked about, like the ability to work on it yourself, uh, aftermarket parts, um, yeah, all that stuff, but that confronts modernity. I've always said, and I will always say, RJ NS motorcycle is a modern motorcycle, it's a contemporary vehicle, it needs to be able to function just like any other vehicle.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Um so so as far as like what are we thinking in the future is like we we want to continue this narrow balancing path that we've maintained so far, but we want to bolster that with the problems that have confronted your own, like supply chain, right, uh capital, all those things. We need to we're that's we're trying to muster our forces to be able to have a sustainable product that we can deliver for another 14 years and that our owners will be able to come back to us. And that's why we're so excited about WeFunder and all the big advances in front of this coming year.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and and I I just want to say, like, I I I don't want uh my myself and uh to I don't want you all to kind of get the notion that we don't like Ural. Um I think Ural is a really cool company, and I think Janice as a whole is uh cheering for Ural as another fellow like small motorcycle manufacturer right now. Doing the doing the the the the crazy work that needs to be done, right? Doing the insane stuff that's required. And uh it I we wish nothing but the best for them. Uh and it would be cool to get the CEO of Ural on the Ramble stream one day. Yeah, absolutely. What's um I don't know his name. I forgot his name. Is it Dimitri? No, but it's it's like Alexei. Um well it's uh I I think that's all we got here. I I I don't know if you want to read any more comments, Richard, or or what um if I had the money for a Ural, I'd buy a Janus.
SPEAKER_01:That's the from Simtic.
SPEAKER_00:All right, all right. I think that's good. I think we can end it on that. Yeah. Um we're so glad that you guys tuned in on this episode. Let us know what you thought. You can leave comments after the fact in uh on YouTube and on Facebook, wherever you're watching. Um give us a review. What what are you thinking? What do you like about us uh going through articles like this? Is this something that you guys are interested in? We're trying to find a uh kind of a always experiment. Just trying to find some to settle in for a little bit until we change it again. So let us know. Uh thank you again for tuning in. Uh next week we will have a new pair of shoes for Jansen. Good to see if you all. We maybe eight pairs. I I will I I'm gonna keep my shoes. I'm sorry. I can't do it. Sorry, I interrupted you. We'll see you next week. All right, for episode 110. Bye-bye. Bye.
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