Ramblestream Podcast

Naming Machines and Finding Meaning

Janus Motorcycles

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 1:07:15

An hourglass, a motorcycle, and a name, what do they have in common? More than you think. We open with the simple act of naming a machine and end up deep in the reasons we ride at all: connection, presence, and the useful edge of fear. Along the way, we read a luminous Borges poem about time, riff on memento mori, and talk about how a bike becomes a partner when you give it a place in your life.

We get our hands dirty, too. Together we configure a Griffin 450, debating Maze yellow vs silver, brush guards, bash plates, LED lighting, and a cargo rack to turn a handsome machine into a real traveler. That build segment doubles as a blueprint for smart customization: pick protection, visibility, and storage that match the roads you actually ride. We also share shop momentum as build pace ramps toward 12 bikes a week and Build of the Week returns. On the business side, we break down our WeFunder progress, why it’s common stock, and how we’re inviting riders beyond our core to join the journey.

The heart of the conversation is fear. Not the bravado of “no fear,” but the honest respect that keeps you alert and unlocks flow. We explore how healthy fear sharpens perception, balances boredom and panic, and turns rides into transformation. Practical takeaways land fast: gear up, light up, avoid complacency, and don’t try to smother fear, use it. 

Add a detour through heirloom drafting tools and ruling pens that shaped design before CAD, and you’ve got a full-spectrum look at craft, community, and consequence on two wheels.

If this hits home, tap follow, share with a rider who names their bike, and leave a quick review so more folks can find the ramble. Got a pre-ride ritual, or a machine with a story to tell? Message us and join the conversation.

SPEAKER_01:

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Ramble Stream Podcast. I'm Richard. And I'm Jansen. Each week we sit down for rambling conversations about motorcycles, the experience of riding, design, and whatever else catches our fancy. Bring a beverage of your choice or stories, and we'll see where this takes us.

SPEAKER_02:

If you're interested in thoughtful conversations, friendly and informative banter with fellow riders, and the latest dispatches from Janus Motorcycles headquarters, you're in the right place. Let's get started. We were having so much fun that we forgot to turn the stream on. Thank you to Jason for telling us, hey, you guys should start to go down. Yeah. Anyway, good evening and welcome back for Ramble Stream number 112. Um my name is Richard Hersham, and I'm uh excited for another good program for you this evening. If you're new to the Ramble Stream, uh consider not consider. Do do post up where you're watching from, what you ramble with, whether it's a motorcycle or a whatever else. If it's a Janus, tell us a serial number. And if you have a name of your rambling machine, tell us the name. And last but not least, tell us what you're sipping on. So I'll get started. My name is Richard again, uh Worsham, uh co-founder and head of design at Janus Motorcycles. I am broadcasting from downtown Goshen, Indiana at the Ramble Studio, as I call it. And I ramble with a 2009 Kawasaki KLR and a 2017 Halcyon 250 number 68, which does not have a name. And I'm sipping on what am I sipping on? E.H. Taylor. E.H. Taylor Small Batch. Bottled in Bond. Is it is it? It is, yeah. Um and I'm really happy to be here.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, why haven't you named 68? I can't come up with a name for it. You just like can't or is it just like I think nothing is stuck. I feel like you can call it 68 and everyone would understand well that that's the name. Right.

SPEAKER_02:

I think that's what it's that's what it is. It's just becoming that. But I have to say that because it's uh I do like to tell people to get name their their vehicle. But there are I was actually just like two weeks ago, I was looking at, or maybe it was even more recent, I was looking at a um history of um it was actually a car history, and they were talking about this famous prototype. It was a Jaguar. They were talking about it, and it was they they it's called the light registration number. And it was and it was pretty cool. Like cool. I mean, it's still known by that, like by its registration number.

SPEAKER_03:

So maybe we're in good company. Anyway, Jan Jansen, what's going on? My name is Jansen. I'm also streaming live from Downtown Goshen at Genesis HQ, more locally in the Ramble Studio. I always mess that up, but I didn't today. Uh I ramble in an F-150 Lightning and is to be rambling on a Phoenix 450. I'm also sipping on some nice E. H. Taylor, and it is delicious. The best Christmas gift I've ever given to myself. And me. And Richard. We get to share this together. What is a what is a a better Christmas gift than uh being able to experience it with the person you gifted? You know, actually that's it's worthwhile. Uh I was gonna ask you another question about 68, but I I can't remember. Uh oh, and what we're gonna squirrel we're gonna squirrel here a little bit. Um what do you think naming vehicles like that uh dead air? That kind of thing, where did naming vehicles come from? Like where do you think it originated and why do you think that people felt like they needed to name the vehicle that they're they're they're transporting in? I mean I can come up with a answer.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you do you have any ideas? I I I mean I would imagine that it's from ships. Well, but ships are not I mean, yes, ships but ships I think are very much the same thing as motorcycles or vehicles. Like they are another type kind of vehicle. Why would you name I mean it's a good question. To me you are treating it as as an entity and uh a living thing and the living things have names. All living things have names, I think. If we're human beings, like your horse has a name. And when you give something a name, it makes it you have a better connection with it. It makes it something. So if your horse is named whatever traveler, it goes from a thing to something. Yes. But but well but what what does that mean? This is American. But like if you have a if you have a if you have an animal and you work with it, uh-huh or a friend. I mean, there's like another way, let's make it more real, like a friend. Yeah, you and you you use your you have a name. A name, if you have an if you know something's name, you both there's two things. You you have power over it, and that the the converse is that that thing has perhaps one way of looking at it is that it has given you, it has made itself vulnerable to you. So when you tell someone your real name, you are in the words of Ursula Kayla Gwynn, who's a great um kind of fantasy writer. Okay, she talks about a lot as a lot, like naming of things. And the naming of things is actually like even biblically, yeah, having a name is like very, very, very, very significant. Right. But like I think that there is a power to that, and it's like there's a connection. But most importantly, we could say there's a connection. And so why do we name our motorcycles or our vehicles things or the or special ones things is because you have a real connection. And what do we when you have a beautiful, like a really meaningful car or motorcycle or boat, the fact that it has a name makes it more alive. And I think that that's what we when I think about 68 is it's an a it's a living thing that I have a connection with, and then I like you know, I give it a little bit of like, okay, come on, come on. You know, like we're doing it, you can do it.

SPEAKER_03:

Don't don't worry about the snow.

SPEAKER_02:

I used to do that with my Volkswagen.

SPEAKER_03:

Come on, girl, we got this. I started driving in a 1999 Toyota Siena. It's a minivan, man. It is a minivan, and she was tan, and she had tan interior, and I named her Bertha. And it just felt right. And I would do the same of like Bertha was not feeling good 90% of the time, but you get a little pat on the steering wheel, she'll be fine, she'll be fine. Yeah. Old Bertha.

SPEAKER_02:

So anyway, I that's the answer to that. I think it's a good question, though. But I I do think that Janice motorcycles, rambling machines deserve some sort of name. Most they are most often like you're gonna they deserve a name. It's almost like or some kind of connection.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it's like it's like you're bestowing, it's almost like you're you're granting uh this thing to have uh some kind of place in your life. It's like, okay, like like I know that when you get new a new motorcycle or new car or a new boat, I don't know. It it sometimes takes time to to name something because you feel like you have to get to know it first. It's like, okay, you've you've reached the point in our relationship where I feel like you deserve a name.

SPEAKER_02:

It's also like when you customize something, which this goes back to some things I've been saying, like, you know, motorcycles, you don't motorcycles customize themselves in the sense of like it's a relationship, it's a two-way relationship. And if you don't think about like Jeff, our fabricator, what does he say about motorcycles when you're customizing him? What does he say? He says that it it speaks to you. It speaks to you. Yeah. And so I think that there's also something where the motorcycle is telling you its name. Yeah, it's not you bestowing it. Right. I mean, there's a aspect, I think it's a beautiful way of phrasing it. Right. There's another way of looking at it where it's like it's kind of telling you what its name is. Right. And it takes a while for you to be able to hear it. Right, that's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_03:

I I think both things can be true at the same time, for sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

But of course, the first comment that we've got on the stream 1235. A missing R. A missing R. Second. What's Kelly? I'm not even gonna say that. Oh, yeah, I got him because I'm the one who posts the link. Of course I get it. Uh so Kelly, if you're here, I haven't seen your comment, but if you're here with glad you're here. We've got Choppa184 at third. We've got Semtech at forced. We've got a good comment from uh David Walker here. What does he say?

SPEAKER_02:

He says, I always miss the live show, but catch up the recording. A late lurker from the UK, another UK uh viewer. David, you're not a lurker because you're you're posting. And by the way, I rarely catch even my favorite streams live.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Kelly's here. Kelly's here. Jeff Kell says, Patch, we're not doing a giveaway today. Uh let's see. Who's in here? I'm gonna start at the bottom here. Okay, do it. We've got Motar 91, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Yamaha at FC6 at G50164, Road Biscuit, sippin' four roses, small batch by the cracking chimney. Uh, I would say that four roses is one of the most underrated bourbons. Uh, I agree there is a good burden. So that's a great, great choice. Who else is in here?

SPEAKER_02:

Fox parasite, is that foxy? I think it is. We're we're here. Yeah, it is. He says he can't walk. I know he's been having some health issues.

SPEAKER_03:

I missed this. Jeff. Thank you so much for the two bucks. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Uh, where where did you see that he can't walk? Right?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I know he's working with some health issues. Uh that was that was Fox Fox parasite, but it's foxy. Anyway, he just got his bike. Didn't you just receive your he he just got took delivery of a of his Phoenix? Oh man. But I know he's been working with some health issues, so best of um good health to you. Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

We've got Dave Bowen here. A blustery hello from Seattle with four fitting number 41 and an Irish Death Black Ale. Always with the fancy beer. Gosh, that's it. Good to see you. Too dark for me. I don't know if I could do it. I'm sure it's good for people who like it.

SPEAKER_02:

All you have Kelly, Erondequite, New York, however you pronounce it. Um he's got a 250 halcyon. I guess so. 119407 Calliope, New Holland Brewing Company, Michigan, the poet. Nice. Because we named animals. That's okay. That's his answer to your question. Oh, cool, cool, cool. Animals.

SPEAKER_03:

Animals. Um we've got David Watkins here. Greetings from North Carolina, West Virginia. Housey on 450, number 220, Chieftain, Dark Horse. Wow, that's a name. 2013 Harlot Davidson Tri-Glide. Sipping on coffee. I hope it's caffeinated. Only the the cool people drink caffeinated coffee at 7 13 a.m. or PM, sorry. Let's see, who else? All 68.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I like that. All 68. Yeah, not just. Oh, Gary says, what about that Cushman? The Cushman is um what about it needs a little love. It's got a warm garage waiting for it, though. Okay. But it needs some. I need to be able to limp it to the warm garage. What's wrong with it? Uh it's just it's uh um fuel filter is completely clogged.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

It's so it's been sitting for quite some time. You'll get that with those big jobs. Uh Ride Scrambled Pegs. Good evening. Josh from Ecuador, sipping water while eating fresh shrimp. O3 Harley Softtail and a Daytona Crucero 200. Howdy, howdy. Let's see who else.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Kyle in Fort Wayne, rambling on a Honda XR250. Last I was at it, sipping on Bells. Hey Kyle. I think, yeah, that's Kyle Stevenson.

SPEAKER_03:

I see you. We've got Kyle Fed Yank here, our only Twitch viewer. Howdy from Central North Carolina sipping grape soda, rambling on hold on. Yeah, are you trying to do uh an orange crush bit right now? Is that what you're trying to do? Because I feel like grape soda and orange crush are uh very, very uh connected in my head for whatever reason. Kurt wise.

SPEAKER_02:

So Kurt is the winner of the Dream Build giveaway. No way. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Almost positive. I think I just got an email from him. And and we uh I'm almost hope I'm not giving this away. But yeah, he uh I'm pretty sure he won the um Kurt Dream Build giveaway.

SPEAKER_03:

If you haven't read Let me make sure I'm saying that right. Well, if you haven't read your email yet, and if what Richard is saying is true, congratulations. You've won half off base price, a 250. That's incredible. That's awesome. Evening, greetings from Kelowna, Iowa. Ramble with uh House on 250 number 487 and sipping on cold milk with my supper. Cold milk, huh? We've got David Husky in here. David Husky in Las Cruces, New Mexico, Halcyon 250 number 138 and a 17 holy crap, a 1700cc Kawasaki. Yeah, it's Kurt. Kurt. Congratulations, dude. That's great. I wonder, Kurt, what are you gonna what did you what did you build? What did you think about it? I think I think he's got details, but I don't I don't I don't have everything yet. Oh gosh. It's all in the works. I want I want to see the build. Old school's on. What did they what did Jason? I'm not I I didn't name them anything. They're unnamed. Strange things at Janus. What do you mean, strange things at Janus Old School? This is all you.

SPEAKER_02:

Jordan Hann, howdy from Wyoming. 58 degrees today. Was able to ride in January in Wyoming. That's pretty impressive. Soon to have Halcyon 450 number 422 drinking a Founders IPA. Good to see you, Jordan. Founders. Excited to get you. I think the your bike is headed out soon. If only we had builds of the week. Uh builds of the week are coming back very soon, maybe even next week. Next week. They are next week? It's gonna be next week. Okay, there we go. They're coming back. Uh we are very excited to say that our build pace is dramatically increasing. We are our target is 12 bikes a week, which sounds insane. I don't even I mean, it's gonna be crazy. Bikes a week in February by the beginning of February. That's gonna be awesome. Um we did eight over eight last week. We have eleven on the schedule this week. We'll see if we can get if we can get between eight and ten this week, I would be happy. Gonna be moving.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. The qu okay. Old school says uh the quote that he was referring to as coming above. He said the question is Goshen I think he's talking about um what is he talking about? Harley? I don't know. The Harley store they closed down here. Um I think is what he's kind of speaking to here. If I can speak old school. I actually don't I don't know. Is that really what it is? I'm not really for sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh we did have a Harley Davidson dealership shut down.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, which is really sad for you. Really sad. Um they were deeply embedded here. They've been around for 15 years. Was that right? Uh at least. Yeah. At least. Um Harley. Yeah, they just uh shut the doors. Oh, he's referring to Stranger Things. Thanks, Jamie. I they completely completely bounced off my head. I just was trying to read between the lines. Uh recently ordered a Phoenix 450 number about this. Lucky number seven. Nice. I speak fluently I'm sure you do. Yeah, she does. I'm sure you do. That's crazy. Uh Richard, I we had some we you had some time to pick a poem earlier. I did have a little bit of time. A little bit of time. And I would um I would like to hear it.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. So a little preface to this. Um I was thinking about this poet because uh two weeks ago I was having dinner with some several actually a dear friend who went to school with me in undergrad, where lots of my poetry reading started, and who I just happened to now live in the same town or nearby, let's say. Totally randomly. But um we were having dinner with his parents and him um and uh some other folks, and we somehow the topic of Jorge Luis Borges came up. So he's a um really incredible um poet and wrote in Spanish. Uh but I encountered him through while I was reading poetry in undergrad, but I was trying to think of how I actually heard about him. Well, it doesn't matter. Um maybe it was Silber translated so I can't remember. Anyway, this is a great book that I did not know much about him at all. And my kind of funny anecdote about it is I went into this bookstore in Richmond called Topsui Books. And like name for a bookstore. I asked for a book of um George Borg Borges poetry, and they couldn't they didn't know what I was talking about. Ooh, and or I maybe even said like Borges. And finally, after a long time talking and like poking around, they realized that I was looking for Borges. Um but I bought this one, I think I was about twenty, and it's uh in Spanish and English. I tried to read it earlier this evening in Spanish, but I did not speak or read Spanish. I couldn't. So we'll read the English. I thought this was an appropriate one. Because it starts with appropriate, and that's exactly what I said before. The hourglass by Horace. It is appropriate that time be measured by the stark shadow cast by a stake in summer, or by the flow of water in the river where Heraclitus saw time's ironies, since seen as time and fate, they are alike. The movement of the mindless daytime shadow, in the irrevocable running on of river water following its flow. Just so, but time discovered in the deserts another substance, smooth and of some weight, that seemed to have been specifically imagined for measuring out the ages of the dead. And so appears this instrument of legend in the engravings in the dictionary, an object greying antiquarians will banish to a dusty underworld of things. A single chessman, a broadsword, now lifeless, and a clouded telescope, sandalwood worn away by opium. medium, a world of dust, of chance, of nothingness. Who has not hesitated seeing that hourglass, severe and somber in the god's right hand, accompanying the scythe he also handles, the image durer copied in his drawing. Through a top opening, the inverted cone slowly lets fall the wary grains of sand, a gradual gold that loosening fills up the concave crystal of its universe. Pleasure there is in watching how the sand slowly slithers up and makes a slope, then just about to fall, pals up again with an insistence that appears quite human. The sand of every cycle is the same, and infinite is the history of sand. So underlying your fortunes and your sorrows yawns an invulnerable eternity. It never stops the spilling of the sand. I am the one who weakens, not the glass The right of the falling sand is infinite, and with the sand, our lives are leaving us. In the timing of the sand I seem to feel a cosmic time all the long history that memory keeps sealed up in its mirrors or that has been dissolved by magic lace. All these the pillar of smoke, the pillar of fire, Carthage, Rome, and their constricting wars, Simon Magus, the seven feet of earth, the Saxon offers, the Norwegian king, all are obliterated, all brought down by the tireless trickle of the endless sand. I do not have to save myself.

SPEAKER_03:

I too am a whim of time that shifty element That one was my favorite I felt like I was able to understand a little bit of of what he was selling yourself short. What a great poem man right I no I uh time has been uh a thing on my mind lately uh my wife Danny and I we've got two boys uh uh our oldest is three and our youngest is like almost 20 months old almost two so like when people told us when we first had JR our oldest we're like oh listen don't blink time's gonna go by so fast and Danny and I were both we're like shut up like we know how time works like we got him we got it figured out and then sure enough right like we had JR and the next thing you knew you knew he was he was one and then we had Jet and now like now they're old and JR is speaking full sentences to me telling me what he would want and doesn't want and like just like that. It's insane and it makes me really sad yet really happy knowing that uh we get to live in this time that we have but also knowing that it's not forever. And if Janice McRyder is not here to hear me talk about a poem actually actually like being able to articulate about a poem well that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

I hear you I hear you know I mean that does it's like he he has this sort of rambling I don't mean to say that but like yeah he really does have this way of like just it's like lilting yeah but he he strings it all together in this like really amazing series of images that but it's all like it has a really cool story and a meaning about the time of the end of the poem you're like wait whoa bam it's like oh gosh but like the imagery is so powerful that's really good.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm I'm yeah I'm a big fan of that one. Spencer Anderson said my oldest is 41 and youngest is 38 and not as cute anymore. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02:

The time it does seem to go quicker but there is a benefit to it as well.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah yeah like you know the the there's a reason that that um people humanity our our mortality is one of our greatest benefits yeah that it allows us to live more meaningfully yeah it's a driver what is the there's a a Roman saying is is there a Latin saying I guess is it Latin? It's memento more well that that yes that is Latin like remembering your death and I think the Romans use it often to encourage them to like hey like you're gonna die.

SPEAKER_02:

Remember death oh absolutely like are you are you gonna do it or are you gonna do it right so yeah sort of like the inverse of like a carpe diem or whatever it's like right and oftentimes you see them together.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah um yeah yeah it's interesting and they're often represented with an hourglass man an hourglass we got and and I feel like an hourglass is a great representation uh kind of of like jazz a little bit yeah it's two sided two sided it's a doorway there's a transition I never I never thought about that man look at me learning under the tutelage under the tutelage of Richard over here well I after that deep cut let's uh let's let's build a bike you want to build a bike I think this might be the last one we do for a little bit here okay so let's make it so it's gotta be the best one and by best I mean the most unique okay out of all of them so what is what are we saying Billy Billy Graham said uh mortality is 100% none of us get on the uh get out of this alive yep that's the truth Billy Graham and what a what a guy what are we building today though that's the question what do we start with we start with the halcyon we started with the halcyon we've done a griffin 250 we've done a griffin 450 I think haven't we have we not we have not we haven't done a griffin 450 well we gotta do a let's do a griffin 450 we we can't we can't do a stranger thing a steamed bike on the configure what's up what's up with stranger things in the old school loves it i get i i've heard it's a great show i haven't watched it i've never seen it uh jansen is growing up in front of our eyes ain't that the truth aren't we all aren't we all a griffin 650 or phoenix 650 yeah griffin 450 we got a lot of all right let's do a griffin 450 yeah i think that's a good play man what a nice configurator flying through the woods flying I didn't even realize it's flying flying through the woods hey it's a it's a magic carpet it'll it's a magic carpet it'll take you it'll take you where you want to go okay well what colors are we thinking I really do like the green but it's not it's one of the what's one of the colors of the of the prototypes too if one of something different quirky enough what colors have I I have seen I have not seen a lot of colors in the Griffin I have seen blue I have not seen inland sea foam green inland sea foam green is a mouthful I have not seen cream what does cream look like I Griffin 450 cream doesn't do it for do we have we don't have white no we don't have a white white would be cool on aggression white would be kind of cool what about the uh I've there we do I've said there's a flat black one out there that also flat black looks clean I don't like the the the uh the shiny black is that flat that's satin what do we do what do we do I don't know what to do that gray silver I like the silver the silver is a lot more um sparkly okay we've got it the the the silver is a lot more sparkly in person we've got go cardinal red gold cardinal red gold gold cream cream do red and do gold no we don't want to do gold on red that's on the fire engine we have done fire engine once what does the red look like the red looks gold let's do something in different color what does the gold look like okay that's the winner that's the ba that's the uh maze yeah the the the the maze is I mean I tell you that there's a couple of maze bikes back there there's actually a maze 450 right now and there's a maze frame match 450 in the back and it is gorgeous there's no other frame match bike other than that one cream one that I forget his name had at the rally okay um there was like everything was cream 450 that was a beautiful bike I remember I don't know who it was all all uh maze 450 it's like it's incredible and it has skirted fenders I haven't seen it it's beautiful a proper yellow and orange would be nice they're amazing orange color Kelly let's do uh we don't have a zoom feature unfortunately no we do don't we uh well it's there but it's not it's a forgan yet coming soon I don't like the copper I don't like copper on the it's wild I don't like mo I don't like the red the red that's kind of neat but I yeah I don't I I try that try the black black tasty let I I think we were pop same it's not bad it's kind of a little bit like diverse yeah a little bit yeah a little bit I like the oh the blue looks like black from here white no no the blue's kind of cool custom the blue is kind of cool okay what about silver we didn't do silver it doesn't pop on it I like the blue blue I like the blue what what are we what is what does chat say green pin we tried green what do you think about green simdeck smogs then said it's a classic blue looks too much like I don't know what that is T T U N what is what is T T U N Green pin stripes on the maze go Irish this is this is the the appropriate place to say go Irish I will say I still like the flat black with the silver stripe in badge yeah that it that's a that's a nice look I'm curious though what what do we think about the blue that team that team up north yeah that one team let's go with it let's go with it um let's see do we want let's put a bash plate on the thing come on silver silver yeah yeah that's right I don't even think you can do any other color I feel like we gotta match oh is there no blue wheel pin option it's probably too dark probably do silver do silver to match the um logo okay okay that's I wouldn't I wouldn't do wheelpins trip on a Griffin I would I think that's that's wow that's a lot of yellow I mean I love I love it on the House game 450 but I like a black frame on the Griffin on the Griffin is kind of crazy I gotta like it it reminds me of SpongeBob that's fine I don't I don't like it it reminds me of Spongebob I like the black better with the maze personally number plate well do you like the brown that's either one's fine you're you're not uh brush guard that was so fast it needs a brush guard the griffin doesn't it has to have the brush card it just completes the lock headlight visor you can take it or leave it I don't like the head actually I don't like the headlight visor on the griffin I want the LED headlight for nighttime travel riding absolutely um I want the bar in weights nobody wants the California nobody wants the California kit but what everyone does want is the tie downs for tie downs or the task we gotta do those yes okay and target rack I I like I like the cargo rack makes it makes it an actual little adventure bike right what is right top what is that roll top it's it's like a side bag on the other side you can't see it in the image that's a good looking bike that's a good looking bike I like I really like the Griffin 450 is going to um we really haven't built that many of them but it's gonna be a humdinger do you do you have plans of having one like you have to you know I would ride a griffin a lot I think if I had one but I do kind of have one because I ride the shop one around a lot right um I do think it's a fantastic bike um I'm a little more excited about the Phoenix just because not not because I enjoy riding one or the other but I just ever since we built the paragon I've wanted a full fairing picture. Kind of tuck your bike down do we I might be get getting in trouble for asking this live do we have any updates on the Phoenix 450? Not right now but we will we will I'm I'm curious just because I also have a deposit down in yeah no it's moving along um there we have the the design team is working on a lot of things right now yeah and some one project is is coming ahead of it right now of just A and C Y'all are going to be ANC about all the things we're working on we're working on some very exciting things I'm ready the match frame makes it look like shopping cart yeah that front that leading link yeah it's a little weird there it's like a dollar general shopping cart how about a weFunder update oh we funder update yeah are we ready for that I get I mean why not just ask for it um weFunder I had to not check the amount today um we are just shy of 400 um and we are working with weFunder right now that are we're in a kind of an unusual position and it's it's actually a really kind of a cool thing that we have typically companies when they're on weFunder have a lot of followers and not a whole lot of investors we're the opposite we have a lot of investors a ton of investors and like 50 followers.

SPEAKER_02:

That's wild and so what we're working on right now is that what that what that signifies if you go to like our custom stats the percentage of investors is mostly people that are new to weFunder which then means that they're mostly Janus people. So it's like we're very heavily we mark we were able to market to our our own internally really well and and and just because we have a very strong following you all I mean you all you guys um and that really supported us but what our task now is to get out to the rest of the world and to share this. So it's it's actually a really great opportunity because we can we can both market Janice and um reach a a wide audience of of we funder return investors so the kind of their people and then also just people in general. Yeah so that's our task over the next couple of months is to um round out our million so another 6000 um in investments and we have a really great strategy with that um if you're not even if you don't invest consider following us on weFunder and you'll get all the updates and we do some really cool updates and marketing we do some videos and stuff and post some stuff there and so um follow us.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah share it share the word it really it'll help us it'll be kind of fun uh is there a telefriend jacket patch um not for wefunder I mean I'm be happy to send you a patch but uh just Jeff asks I need help with with the WeFunder lost my money at the moment I I'm not entirely sure what what you're speaking to uh Jeff but if if you want to shoot us an email at rambling at jadismotorcycles dot com um hopefully we might be able to point you in the right direction. Um I think white is a he likes to speak in poems. That that's fair. Uh and I as you all know am not very good at deciphering poems. Yes. Uh Amy your wife she says I think white is a secret menu.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's no longer on the configurator. Well there you go there's a secret um secret menu.

SPEAKER_03:

When will you offer stock to the general public?

SPEAKER_02:

We are that's kind of that's exactly what weFunder is right um so you can uh invest in Janus motorcycles through the mechanism of weFunder but it's all common stock so it's just like all the other shares it's just go using going through um this allows non accredited non-accredited investors to invest in Janus motorcycles so to be an accredited investor means you have to have a much higher income and liquid um wealth to be able to be able to be able to invest privately in uh a business um this through the mechanism of this form C with weFunder it allows people to invest as little as$250 you don't have to be an accredited investor and you get it's literally the same it's this it's a common stock uh you own a little piece of the motorcycle or of the Janus as much as you decide to invest. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

This is this is not this is the opportunity. This is not an IPO however it's not a public offering this is a privately held company this is the most Janus way to IPO right like it's not an IPO I want to reiterate that but it like this like is the most Janus way to do that kind of thing. Other than going public other than going which which I I'm speaking for you here but I don't think that's it's not in the immediate future.

SPEAKER_02:

Not in the immediate future so yeah uh it's a it's a mechanism what are you saying Cuffy Ding Richard is there a particular mechanism in watch that you can in a watch in a watch oh uh I mean I like mechanical watches if that me I mean I I don't I'm I'm not gonna say like any any particular he's more of a more of a role like or a Seiko or whatever um no I I'm not too picky I'm interested in them and know some of the histories of them but uh I what I don't have at this point is I only have automatics. And I think it'd be nice to have a wind up just a regular mechanical regular old mechanical watch. And then you wind up movement would be really neat.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah um but uh yeah do you have uh confed young do you have any um particular mechanisms you like I said okay chance and what kind of team watch do you like it's funny because I got a teamwatch and it's kind of nice uh um and and nice on my standards uh what uh spee watches are things right Richard uh as long as they're not like an Apple watch yeah because they're repairable because they tried selling me an Apple Watch today did they yeah all you gotta do is to pay for the uh you know the data it's free you just gotta pay for the data I don't do that and what do they say get away from me stop stop Satan get behind they were actually a pretty pretty terrible sale of people but they they didn't push their Jeff Kell is a known Jeff we know I feel like you've sworn watches and I think you've shared the list of watches that you have and I'm very curious about that collection speedRacer says he's a Brightling watch guy.

SPEAKER_02:

Nice what about the Janus watch from last year? The Janice watch from last year is a lovely watch which I'm actually not wearing right now right now I'm wearing Um Seiko. This is an automatic uh day date. Um, just a field watch. I'm wearing my calculator. That's so cool. So there is a place time and a place for non-mechanical watches. And Cassia does a really good job. That's our that's cool. Let's see if I can. I mean, we need our overhead kit. Let me just look at it.

SPEAKER_03:

So cool. I love this watch. I'll put it in front of the camera. That's just a classic. I love that it's uh so it's like a cream color, and it's already kind of I want one of the metal ones.

SPEAKER_02:

It's getting discolored though, which I freaking love. I have I have my Casio is the Mission Impossible Cassio. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's red, black, and it has blue on it. That's really neat. But the blue and it's kind of a bummer though. No, because it's like it kind of loses the whole like I was a little disappointed. I don't know. It was just painted on. I like that. It's like when you I like patina. I like patina, but like it kind of is completely gone.

SPEAKER_03:

Like if you can I guess that's in the but anyway.

SPEAKER_02:

I can see how that's nice. Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_03:

I want I want uh that's a cool thing about his cassia, is they're like leafy. Yeah, they're cheap, they're cool. And to top it all off. This was a gift. Lovely. What a wonderful gift from my my buddy, my business partner, Chris. Thank you. Oh what's next on the agenda? Yeah, I was gonna say you have a thing. I was trying to have a thing. I was trying to transition us into things a little bit. Good job. I'm doing trying my best.

SPEAKER_02:

Um tonight I I this is kind of a little off topic. I was thinking about fear, and I didn't I couldn't come up with a thing. Um Hourglass would have been good.

SPEAKER_03:

Howardglass would have been good.

SPEAKER_02:

That would have been instead I decided to I I'm moving gradually. I still have some stuff down at um our old paint booth, our old desk down there. Bait, rest in peace. We should rest in peace. And uh one of the things is a box of my drafting and art supplies. Um I go ahead. You just started laughing out of nowhere, and I didn't know what you said, not Jiton.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you laughing at me? No, Jeff said, not Jaton's watch. Do you want to show them your watch? I'm squirreled, I squirreled you. But yeah. No, I that was that was uh that's cool.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll I'll show them you you talk. You talk about it. I I am not wearing the rambler. This is just a Seiko five. Um it's a little fast too. I want to focus. There you go. Classic Seiko automatic on a James Monster.

SPEAKER_03:

We're not giving away a watch either, so stop saying watch in the chat.

SPEAKER_02:

Um so anyway, uh I was move uh brought up my uh uh an old chest that I have with drafting equipment or art supplies and drafting equipment. And I was I just thought, oh, well, this is a great opportunity. This is a thing. And there were th I have several of them. And this is something that you can find these drafting drafting kits at like estate sales, and there was just they were just everybody had one. Everyone in this is like the computer of for drafting of um up until what the 1980s, everyone who was doing any kind of design kind of on the engineering or architectural right scale was using a drafting or was hand drafting and they would have a drafting kit. This is a I don't need to show you all. You've probably seen these before. This is a drafting kit. That's cool. Um, this one in particular is um it's a cool German one, an Excelsior. It's really well made. Like this is one of the nicest ones I've ever seen. As as the Germans normally do. Beautifully machined. But um one of the things, I'm not gonna talk about drafting equipment too much here. I'm just gonna say that one of the things that I things that I have that was a gift to me that's especially thing-ish, is uh something called a ruling pin. And a ruling pin um we may have to hold up another one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so I it was the CAD of the 1950s, is what Gary Smith said.

SPEAKER_02:

It was the CAD all the way from the 18th century and 15th century on, uh when they really started do using um more precise drawings to represent plans. But anyway, um a ruling pen, and some people some of you all I'm sure remember what a ruling pen is, but uh it looks like a scalpel. But uh show show them that uh up close. Get my face, that my pretty face out of them. So basically what you're seeing here is a it's it's like a fountain pen. It's two metal blades, and you can control their width with that little dial. Okay, and between the two blades, it will carry ink or watercolor. And so you can, and then if you you can use a rule uh a rule, like a like a straight edge or a ruler, and you can track a perfectly straight line. Or not. You can make shapes, but you can control the exact thickness of the line with the thumb screw. That's pretty cool. And it's very, very handy in drafting because you can get a thicker line. Yeah, it's it's like a pen, but you typically like a an ink pen, uh fountain pen with a nib responds to pressure. Some of them more than others. Uh calligraphic pens don't, or they do. It depends on what but the this is um these are designed and you have different varieties of them to carry a significant amount of liquid so that you can draw a line that's like that long. So do you do you dip it? Yeah. So my training was in hand drafting and then watercolor rendering. Okay. So we would use these with watercolor. And you can you can do like blue and any color you want as a border. I would often use them for borders. You can use them for another thing I used them a lot for was shadow lines in a in a watercolor rendering. But there's also so I've got a couple here. This one is a metal one, looks kind of like a, like I say, like a scalpel. This one is um out of that German satin. The machining. Look at the look at the machining on that. Is that not incredible? It looks like um it's like a like stoke. Like architecture, yeah, it's like an architectural piece. I think this is um ebony that wood handle.

SPEAKER_03:

This episode is just a nice reminder to me um that we really need an overhead can.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like an architectural capital. I mean, it's just incredible. So that one's a German one. But the one then then you can also get them. So just to illustrate the fact that this is not an art like art thing. This is drafting. Yeah. Is that they also, if you wanted to make a circle. A classic, you have a ruling pin on a compass. And you can do a circular one. And this this is from that same German set, and so this is like different width. Check this out. You can control the angle and then the top of your compass also move. Like this is look at the machining run that I know.

SPEAKER_03:

Cloud Found Y just said, uh, didn't the stream used to have an overhead to show things? I know.

SPEAKER_02:

We'll get we'll get back to it. It's fine.

SPEAKER_03:

I'll have a list.

SPEAKER_02:

The the level of the devils that are cut in that thing, that's is really astounding. Beautiful piece. Probably from I'm gonna I wanna say this is from Man, this might be from the 18s. Possibly older? This is a little bit older than I realized, actually. Anyway, the thing that I wanted to talk about is this one. Wait down. Was it even the I thought those were all the things? No, no, no. I just thought I would go talk about film that about about really things. This one, I think this one's significantly older. I don't actually know, but what I do know is that that handle's made it of ivory. That's cool. That's cool. This one I I want to say is 19th century. Wow. This is a gift from my father. That's cool. And it's just really cool because the ivory is threaded. Look at that end on it.

SPEAKER_03:

It looks like a drumstick. It does look like a drumstick. Um I will um hold on, let me let me put this down. That's that's pretty cool. Um I dropped my watch on the floor. This is the word this is actually what I wanted to show you all. This this is the actual thing. You gotta kind of get up into the camera a little bit. Yeah, there you go. So the the detail on I mean uh all of it. Uh why did they go there's so much painstaking effort to um get this much detail into something as tiny as as that, I wonder. Because it mattered. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's what things that's that's what things are that's that's why I think this this was sung out to me as a thing when I was yeah bringing this box up. I'm like, oh yeah. Well, first of all, because I've I've thought I've lost this before. Oh, hold on.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh two dollars. Thank you. Semtech, thank you so much for the two box new overhead camera come offers.

SPEAKER_02:

But no, but seriously, I think that a thing demands like it's something that somebody cared about. Somebody put somebody spent some money on that thing too.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Or on that German kit. Like it meant something. It's like the thing also elevates what it what you're doing with it. You don't, I mean, like when you're doing watercolor rendering, that watercolor rendering, like a plate we calculated in school, like minimum, you're looking at 40 hours to finish a plate. Why are you gonna short yourself on the tools you're using to put all this time into this amazing thing? Right. Like, I mean, I mean, a paintbrush. We would get some really nice, you know, sable paintbrushes. I mean, you're spending 40 bucks on a paintbrush. Good night. For at least. And it makes you then you go and use one that doesn't cost that much. That's like cheap. That's the difference. You might as well like why would you do that? Like so these are high quality, and that and the and the the if uh a beautiful a thing that does a really good job. Needs to be appropriately ornamented. That's fair, right?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, just like a Janice. Oh, hold on. Oh gosh. Here we go. Jason, five bucks for the overhead cam startup. Thank you so much. All right, from here on out, every single um donation will be put toward the overhead cam. Um uh uh one was there before your phone? It no, it was the the monitor. No, I'm saying the overhead camp was my phone. Yep, up another two bucks. Oh wow, okay. Wood floral canvas. Germans always make the best things. That's they make certain kinds of things that are nice.

SPEAKER_02:

They don't always make the nice the best things. We uh thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh as a Volkswagen for Volkswagen. Volkswagen. He knows, he knows. Um it, Richard, is 754. Holy moly. We we really dragged that one out. We have rambled to our rambler's content. Well, let's talk a little bit about we can talk a little bit about fear. Yeah. Um, my question to you is the exact same question this episode is titled. Is it necessary when you're writing? Is it a necessary necessary part of writing?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I think it's a pretty easy answer. Okay. So I'll take the I'll I'll start with the easy answer. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely. Fear is important.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

What are they what do they say? Um it's not whether you're afraid, it's what you do with it that that matters. Whether you're going into battle or whatever. Yeah. But I think that those of us who if you if you if you don't have fear, you aren't doing it right.

SPEAKER_03:

That's right. And I and I think you also might be you might be dumb. Right. Uh when I when I first got me being stupid. Yeah, well, yeah. When I first got um, I got I got uh my first bike and uh my my wife's uncles, they're they all ride. Um my my wife's grandpa, she or he rode, um, and the first thing they all told to me, they they it was awesome. They they gave me a jacket and a whole thing, and uh they said to me, uh, if you ever swing your o your leg over your motorcycle and you're not scared a little bit, it's probably time to sell it. And I I think that's it's pretty profound because I think with fear uh comes respect. Oftentimes, and uh I think fear has many definitions, and we can get into semantics, right? But um I think there has to be a c like a healthy fear of any uh dangerous activity you partake in. Well, that's one way of looking at it, and I completely agree. Oh, two bucks from Speed Racer. Thank you so much. This is going to the Overhead Camp Foundation.

SPEAKER_02:

Jeff Kell says, I wish I could lose fear when I ramble. Well, then you wouldn't be rambling, my friend. Um, old school says, I beg to differ. German craftsmanship is some of the best in the world. I'm not saying it's not. You're missing my point. I'm saying that there's other places that make that are really good craftsmen too. Yeah. Germans are really great craftsmen. Oh, they're also maybe crafting mm even better engineers. Um the um not to be stereotypical. Uh I mean I just watched an incredible uh video with um what's his name? The he was in the the um what's the movie called? The uh was the movie about? It's called The Apprentice. Okay. And it's about this guy who spends a day working at or a week working at he's a movie star. Adrian Brody. Okay. Goes to work at the Porsche Factory. Uh-huh. It's a really it's an awesome movie or documentary. Uh portion. I mean, I actually now that I watch that movie, I'm like, I kind of get Porsche. Do you remember what it's called? The Apprentice. Okay. Yeah, right, right. Anyway. Going back to fear, and we were talking about how is the fact that rambling, one of the things we talk about when we talk about rambling is getting in the zone, right? The flow state. The flow state. And the flow, one of the one of the ways that I have best heard the flow state described is that it is a middle ground between being too bored to like focus too much and being too scared to go any further. So you you you balance in between. So you want to be in a place where you're not where you're f loose enough, where you're not too afraid that you're that you lock up. Yeah. But you're not so loose that you don't understand that there are consequences to your actions. Right. That m that that's where we enter into that flow state, where we start all of a sudden are we we actually start like expanding our ability to do something. Like, you know, when you when you all of a sudden you come to then you let's say you've been reading a book, or you've been drawing a picture, or you've been fishing, or you've been uh whatever the thing you do, playing a video game, composing, whatever it is, you're you whatever the passion doesn't matter, it can be as silly or or not, when you all of a sudden you come to an hour and a half later and you're like, holy cow, I don't know what I was just like, I was just in it. Yeah, that's but guess what? What's important is that you have that there that there has to have that top level fear as well, because like no a video game gives it to you in the sense of like, oh, you're gonna die, right? But you're not really, you're just gonna respawn. Right. Whereas on a motorcycle, the reason that motorcycles I argue in the Rambo's companion, that they move us so much and that we find so much value in them, is that that fear you have is of dying. Because one false move, doesn't matter if you're driving a 14 horsepower 250. Yep, you you do something stupid, you don't concentrate, and you can be dead. Right. Now, same thing in a I'm not trying to scare people here, but motorcycles, it's it's a more ramp, it's more, it's more, like I say in the book, more concrete uh ramifications to your actions. Yeah. So I would say that in order to ramble, you have to be afraid. Yeah. And like I use the example of like a mountaineer. You know, there there's no there's no glory. I mean, there maybe there is, but like if you're if you're the purpose of rambling is to come home. It's to come home eventually and savor that experience. Like savoring. Fun number two, right? We talk about fun number one is like having a hard time and like getting wet and cold and right, you know, suffering. Because if you die doing those things, you die, then who are you gonna be able to tell? Yeah. And it's never you never get to like uh have that transform you. Like I I I I what is his name what's his name? Um the guy who they think uh uh Mallory. Yeah, who they think's they think he made it to the top of Mount Everest. Um never made it back down though. So which is like I mean, that's there's there there's a a triumph to him having made it, but there's also like at what cost? Right. Right. Does it is it really something that is worth you losing your life and possibly your your teammates' lives? Or and then if you're if you're doing something stupid on a motorcycle, like you know, there's other people involved. You have family, you have that person, other people on the road, right? There's ramifications direction. So you need to be afraid, and and then you have to manage your fear, right? And and and and there's ways we can do that. And I think that's kind of the the positive side of fear is that fear it's not just there to protect us. It is, of course, biologically, but it's also there to make us better. It's there to enable us, yes, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Like yeah, it's to transform us, right, to to get us into a a a headspace where yes, um we we we can make decisions uh that benefit us. Us rather than saying, like, oh like I always think the word healthy fear is sort of like an oxymoron. Like, what is healthy fear? I think oxy real quick. I think oxymorons are the best way the English language has to explain, like the best way that the English language can explain something that doesn't make sense. But it does make sense. Because two things can be true at once. Right. That's an oxymoron. So that's what an oxymoron is. But if if two things can be true at once in real life, can't two things be true at once in real in in the word itself? Like a healthy fear, right?

SPEAKER_02:

But I'm no no no, but I guess um the point I'm making is that like it's almost seems like it negates itself. Like healthy fear, like like all fear is healthy. That's the point I'm making. I don't think all fear is healthy. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, so maybe healthy fear of like like you're talking about like cowardly fear is not healthy. Yeah, like if it shies you away from tr doing the thing that you want to do, that's that's not good.

SPEAKER_02:

But is is there any difference between the fear that I don't know I I don't mean to use the word coward lightly, but like the fear that a coward experiences and the fear that a hero experiences? They're both experiencing the same fear.

SPEAKER_03:

It's what they do with the fear. What they do with the fear, right? Where they channel it. That's fair. I'll give you that one. Okay. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02:

But I anyway, where where I'm going with it is that when you're riding a let's just say you're rambling on a motorcycle, fear is important. Yes. It helps us to tr it helps us transform. We wouldn't go out and ride a motorcycle if there wasn't that the thrill.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, right. It I I saw a comment here and I and I wish I would have uh stayed on it. Um It said Oh crap. Well, this is a good comment. It's not the one I'm looking for, but uh use fear to enhance your perception, don't let it paralyze you. Yeah. I think that's so true. That's a very, very good way of saying it. Um where was it?

SPEAKER_02:

What did it what did Bert Monroe say? You live more in five minutes on a motorcycle than some people live in their entire lives.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know if that's true. The the thing that keeps coming up in my mind.

SPEAKER_02:

But this he's he's he's pushing his limit. Right. He's testing his metal. He's and and maybe some people could call that reckless. I I think that is reckless. But his whole life was like that. And he lived a reckless life. Okay, well, I mean, fine. There's a fine balance, right? Like there is, but I mean, a lot of people would say the same thing. Anyone who rides a motorcycle, they would say, You are a reckless fool for doing that. Why would you do that? And the answer to them, I mean, is it's worth it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Well, I I I think it it's worth it, is it's different for everyone, right? And I wish there's a part of me that wishes I would have got us into this a little quicker, but we're having such a good time. I don't know. Today was today was a fun show.

SPEAKER_02:

I think we did a good job. I mean, like, but I mean, the last thing I wanted to say. Yeah, can we can we wrap it up?

SPEAKER_03:

Or uh if you have any else to say, I don't have anything else to say. I'm just trying to make sure we get through. Um there's a lot of good comments here, y'all. I'm I'm sorry we couldn't get to them all.

SPEAKER_02:

That's okay, that means they're having fun. Um and our screen just went by. Um there are things we can do to mitigate risk. Yeah. And to but I don't know if it's a good idea to mitigate your fear. So I I like for me, what I have happen to me is I get I get complacent. And like today, I witnessed a car crash like right in front of the store I was in. Heard the cr heard the sound, turned around, and it was like it was pretty intense. A pickup truck pretty sure I saw it flying. Luckily, I don't think anyone was like seriously injured. Uh-huh. Thank God. But I did go across my it was a remoter. I'm like, hell. If you were on a that was a motorcycle? Done. That would been the end. So that is something to I I think that like sometimes I get complacent and and I do try, and every time I get on a bike, instill in myself a little bit of fear. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

On purpose.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. To say, because then I get more out of the experience, not just to not just to titillate your you know, sense of you know, whatever, but like actually, yeah, your adrenaline, but to to to to to make sure that that experience you're getting what you want out of that experience to to transform yourself. Because what is mo I claim what is motorcycling but uh a very visceral means of transformation. Yeah. Um so anyway, there are ways we can do, there are things we can do to mitigate it. We can always wear a helmet, we can wear a motorcycle jacket with armor, we can wear gloves, we can wear, you know, all the things. I don't tell people what to do. I just tell you what I do. I wear all the gear.

SPEAKER_00:

I get it.

SPEAKER_02:

Um but I mean you can you can also have get me in a car. Right. And so it's up to you. But I think that a motorcycle offers an incredible proximity to both fear but also your ability to overcome it. Yeah. And your ability to have that fear make you better, transform you.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I think we'll end it at this. I think that's a really good way, good place to end it. But uh there's a saying that says, Okay, you're scared. Do it scared. Do it scared? Do it scared.

SPEAKER_02:

Not remember uh where you're you're teaming, no fear. I was a kid. No fear. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03:

I don't have any fear, no fear at all. That's reckless. That's reckless. Well, uh thank you all for tuning in to our uh our show tonight. Uh sorry for the short ramble. Um, I'm sure there will be more of this that kind of trickles into uh next week, if I had to guess. But uh we'll see you then next Monday. You have a comment you want to read?

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, I'm just looking at all the comments. Good night, everybody. It's been actually I I really enjoyed yeah the ramble and and all the and all the jazz up leading up to it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Just a little just a little bit of jazz. You know, everyone needs a little jazz in their life. We'll see you all next week for episode 113. All right, bye-bye.

SPEAKER_02:

That wraps up this episode of the Ramblestream Podcast. Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the show, subscribe wherever you listen, share it with a fellow rambler, and please consider leaving a rating. And join us live every Monday at 7 p.m. on YouTube for our weekly ramble stream. You can also find us at ramblestreampod.com and on social at ramblestream.

SPEAKER_01:

We'll be back next week with more conversations, more stories, and of course, more rambling. And remember, many of those who ramble may very well be lost, but that's probably the point.