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Isle of Man: Facing the World’s Deadliest Motorcycle Race

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The open road is a massive liability when you are pushing a machine to its absolute mechanical limits. For over a century, the finest line between victory and catastrophe has been drawn on a small island in the Irish Sea, where the regular rules of the pavement simply do not apply. On this episode, Richard Worsham and Jansen Utech dig into the brutal history, terrifying physics, and unmatched legacy of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy as the qualification week officially kicks off.

We sit down to unpack the transition from historical durability trials to the modern 36-mile mountain course. Our conversation covers the strategic dynamic of racing against the clock rather than a traditional grid start, the wild world of high-speed sidecar racing, and the mental load required to memorize over 200 distinct turns. We also examine how modern racers utilize advanced simulators during the offseason to maintain the precision synapses necessary to survive narrow street curbs and stone walls.

The pursuit of pure speed demands an uncomfortable acceptance of risk, especially when navigating a circuit that has claimed hundreds of lives since 1907. There is an undeniable mental toll on the riders, many of whom balance family life with the reality of clipping apexes inches away from local pubs and spectators. You will walk away from this discussion with a deep appreciation for the specialized rookie training programs, the local culture of Mad Sunday, and the unique heritage that keeps this dangerous motorsport independent of corporate sterilization.

Welcome And Memorial Day Setup

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Hello everyone, welcome to the Ramble Stream Podcast. I'm Richard, and I'm Jansen. Each week we sit down for rambling conversations about motorcycles, the experience of riding, design, and whatever else catches our fancy. Bring a beverage of your choice or stories, and we'll see where this takes us.

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If you're interested in thoughtful conversations, friendly and informative banter with fellow riders, and the latest dispatches from Janice Motorcycles headquarters, you're in the right place. Let's get started.

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Welcome to a special Memorial Day edition of the Ramble Stream. My name is Richard.

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Um I am um uh co-founder and head of design at Janus Motorcycles.

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My name is Jansen. Also just coming to you live from the Ramble studio here in Goshen, Indiana at Janus' world headquarters. I ramble in an F-150 in a soon-to-be rambling on a Phoenix 450 number four named Fours, and I cannot wait for that day to come where I can go to the Isle of Man and just rip on my Phoenix 450. That would be very cool.

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Uh, we're gonna go back to the well that is Richard Wilbur. And this is kind of a long one. Uh I hope you don't mind.

A Poem About Stars And Fear

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I gotta settle in.

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It's it is Memorial Day after all.

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Yeah. In the field. This field grass brushed our legs last night, when out we stumbled, looking up, wading us through the cloudy dregs of a wide, sparkling cup, our thrown back heads aswim in the grand, kept appointments of the air, save where a pine at the sky's rim took something from the bear. Black in her glinting chains, Andromeda feared nothing from the seas, preserved as by no hero's panes, or hushed Euripides, and there the dolphin glowed, still flailing through a diamond froth of stars, flawless as when Arion rode one of its avatars. But none of that was true. What shapes Greece or Babylon discerned, had time not slowly drawn askew, or like a cat's cradle turned? And did we not recall that Egypt's north was in the dragon's tail? As if a form of type should fall and dash itself like hail, the heavens jumped away, bursting the cincture of the zodiac, shot flares with nothing left to say to us, not coming back, unless they should at last, like hard-flung dice that ramble out the throw, be gathered for another cast. Whether that might be so, we could not say, but true our talk awhile to words of the real sky, chatting of class or magnitude, star clusters, nebulae, and how Antares, huge, as Mars big roundhouse swing and more, was fled as in some rimless centrifuge into a blink of red. It was the nip of fear that told us when imagination caught, the feel of what we said, it came near, the school book thoughts we thought, and faked a scan of space, brown black and hollow by our spent grenade, all worlds dashed out without a trace, the very light unmade. Then, in the late night chill, we turned and picked our way through the outcrop stone, by the faint starlight up the hill, to where our bed lamp shone. Today, in the same field, the sun takes all, and what could lie beyond? Those holes in heaven have been sealed, like rain drills in a pond, and we, beheld in gold, see nothing starry but these galaxies of flowers, dense and manifold, which lift about our knees, white daisy drifts where you sink down to a pick an armload as we pass, sighting the heel all's minor blue in chasms of the grass, and strews of hawkweed where, amongst the reds or yellows as they burn, a few dead poles commit to air the seeds of their return. We could no doubt mistake these flowers for some answer to that fright we felt for all creation's sake in our dark talk last night, taking to heart what came of the heart's wish for life, which, staking here in the last field an endless claim, beats on from sphere to sphere, and pounds beyond the sun, where nothing less peremptory can go, and is ourselves, and is the one unbounding thing that we know.

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I like that one. That one that was pretty good. A little over my head if I'm

Why The TT Happened There

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being honest.

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I'm glad you liked it.

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The form of government that the Isle of Man has is actually very apropos to our conversation tonight because um when they were trying to find a place to race, UK had speed limits. But the Isle of Man didn't have any speed limits because it they had a different system that they went off of. So that's why this race took off on the Isle of Man, because they didn't have speed limits that they had to they could allow road racing.

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They could just go like it's like the Autobahn, but an entire island.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting.

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I mean, it's only certain times of year.

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So so how old do you know?

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I don't know the actual heraldic history of that logo. Um but I think it goes very it's if you go to Celtic like imagery and Celtic um cooks like on the Isle of Man, there are all these like archaeological sites that are very early habitation, and there's you see you'll find these like swirling. If you look at just Celtic symbols, oftentimes you'll see those three things that are spiraling. Uh-huh. This is coming from that same thing. I don't know where this particular heraldic uh image, I don't know this the history of it, but it's kind of it's uh it's just I just think it's such a striking image. Today is the first day of the TT 2026. Uh it

The Mountain Course Explained

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would just be fitting to talk about some kind of current events in motorcycling and the TT, which stands for the the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy, um, as Jansen said in that video, was found was started in the first year they ran it was in 2000 or 19 2007, 1907. And um, yeah, like I was just saying, the the reason that they that it that it happened there and then the reason that it continued to happen there and kind of became this thing is because of at least trust your books, is that the speed limits were administered differently or didn't they I don't know if they didn't have them or they just allowed it. Um whereas in on in England they there was there were speed limits on all the roads and you couldn't do road racing. And you gotta imagine at this era there was no such thing as a um road road track anywhere. Um to this day, places like I think even like Silverstone, that's an old airfield. Um, and you did they have airfields in 1907 like we do today? They didn't even have those. And so the kinds of racetracks you would have had would have been horse tracks, which is why in like the states, flat track was uh became out of that, and like um board track racing, it's just a big oval. NASCAR comes out of that, but in but but road racing is not going in one direction, nope, in a circle. You're taking you're it's just a a series of roads, they'll pick a course. Um, and this is a tradition that um Moto GP, which is which is the descendant of gr grand prize motorcycle racing. So grand prize racing would be like on the road or when they were able to on tracks. Um, but all the early ones would have been on on a collection of roads. Lamont, the famous car at 24 hours of Lamont, that is a collection of roads that are closed down once a year or more, you know, periodically to host this track. So the that the oldest races are often a collection of roads, and a lot of European racing as opposed to US racing was this kind of road racing where you're um different kinds of corner conditions, yeah, uh different directions, tight bins, big looping bins, long straightaways, big old walls, just right next to the room. Going through a table, yeah. Um so the so the Isle of Man, it w started off as this as this um it was a shorter course in initially. And then in like 1911, they opened up what's called the Snayfill or the mountain course, and that's just 30, it's around 36 miles, 36 mile lap. Okay, and so it goes up, it goes starts down down by the sea, goes up over the mountains and comes back down again, um, going through multiple towns in the process. And because it's so long and it's going over so many different, you know, geograph, you know, typography, it's it's uh some point times it can be like foggy on one area and sunny and warm in another area.

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It it's it is so bizarre to me, especially after watching some of the footage, the race footage, how someone is able to um how it's humanly possible to do that, how do how it's humanly possible to go that fast and ride through narrow streets and corners.

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Well, it's it's definitely a different kind of rider. Um I I if you listen to people like there's a great interview with Valentina Rossi and another one with uh Nikki Hayden, and they're talking who are both Moto GP you know, grand prize motorcycle riders, and they are they're talking about and I think Valentina Rossi actually did the mountain course behind Giacchi Magostini, who was a actually raced there, right? He was really old, and he like led him and he and he goes, Yeah, I'm sorry guys, my average speed was under 90 miles an hour. He goes, and I was terrified the entire time. But the the that actually gets to the another point I would make about the TT, which is that the TT was a Moto GP track, yeah, up until the 70s. So it wasn't called Moto GP, it was called Grand Prize motorcycle racing. And that and if you in order to place in that, this was one of the circuits, one of the courses, right? And then I think in like 1976, due to the controversial nature of how dangerous it was, yeah, they actually removed it from that. And so currently the Isle of Man TT is its own thing. Um, now there are a series of road races in around not in England, but in the Isle of Man and then in Ireland, which also allowed road racing. Uh-huh. So you have the Ulster 200, and there's a number of other Ulster 200 is probably the most famous. There's a number of other Irish road racing circuits, well, pla towns where they allow road racing.

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We're just gonna shut this down for a little bit.

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And if you look at like the names of the people, yes, you're gonna find international names, but a lot of them are gonna be Irish and English people that are it's like its own vert, like it breeds its own kind of crazy.

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I feel like it's it's one of those things where at this point, and this is just a gut feeling not based on anything, it it almost feels like a family heritage, as opposed to someone just saying, I

Legends Joey Dunlop And Heritage

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I'm a kid, I'm 10 years old. I think I want to race, you know, at the Isle of Man and go through those Irish circuits at blistering speeds without having any connection to it.

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Funny you say that because there are some families that are famous. Okay. Um the Dunlap family is probably the main one. Uh Joey Dunlop was he's to date has won more Isle of Man TTs than any other rider. Uh, an amazing rider, um, and a really unique person. Uh-huh. He would he didn't believe in or he didn't like flying, so he would always bring all of his motorcycles over from Ireland in a boat, and he would rent a fisher boat, fishing boat, and then one time it sank with all of his motorcycles, and he had to like recover. Like, so really interesting guy.

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You're you don't like flying. But she liked to ride motorcycles at 200 miles an hour. Interesting, and that's a those people. It's like I put these people in the same category as people who uh like Red Bull athletes who are in those wingsuits, who it's like that is the stupidest thing that anyone could ever do, yet so admirable that they're able to do it in the first place.

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Well, yeah, he I mean he was a remarkable person for on a number of levels, uh, philanthropist. I mean, he he was really active in charity. Um, I mean, he would drive like a little bread van of food, like to like like there's a the look up Joey Delam, amazing person. Unfortunately, he he died in a uh crash in like Eastern Europe on a like 200cc bike going way too fast in the rain. Um, but uh I I mentioned him because his family is his nephew's um uh race and are very very like top placing. Um they've won the the TT as well. But anyway, um that's kind of like the big picture of the Isle of Man T T. Many, many names, all the great names of motorcycling have raced there. Mike Halewood, um Giacomo Agostini, um, John Sartese. I mean, I could just we could just keep talking about the different names of all the great riders who have um have raced there. But it's an interesting course because it it isn't like like Moto GP tracks are typically laid out to um kind of like how do I say this? It's technical. Uh like uh there it's like a racetrack. So at racetracks, they try and like get a little bit of everything and like technical and like big sweeping corners and all this stuff. Well, the Alamana TT is just a section of road that they picked in like 1911 as the track. So what you end up with is a track that is a very fast track because there are sections that they just don't let off the accelerator for for quite a while, and you're going through by stone walls, through towns, and the other really amazing thing is that you can that because it's so long, there there are sections with grandstands, but most of the track is just stone walls or fences, and people can just walk up and sit next to the track, and like and there's some places like their videos like look up like TT reaction videos, and there's like people like with a camera in their or their phone, they're like they're like standing there, then it's like and the bike comes by and it's like four or five inches away from their phone, and they're and they're just like yeah, I I I've seen some crazy videos of people just being way too close to the actual track itself.

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It's like yo, like you're gonna get some yourself and the rider hurt. Um it's in it's insane to me that um that they can they they just do it, right?

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Like, yeah, I mean it's very controversial

Danger Deaths And Sidecars

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because like yeah, they got their you know the championship uh grand prix title taken away in the 70s, and then since then, I mean it it is probably the most deadly motorcycle event in the world. It has to be. Um over 260 people have died since uh 1907, and and every year, I mean this is it it's sad to say, but like every year multiple people die um on the on the track. Um they race sidecars, which is probably the that's where actually I first heard about the TT was watching sidecar racing on the man.

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It's not like like the sidecar, like so it's not they're not like Urals, right?

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They're like are they actual no they're like carts that people it's just a regular sidecar, but they've they've streamlined the thing, and so that the the the pilot is often prone down on the ground, and then the there's this like all fared, so it kind of looks like a cart, and they have big fat tires, and the monkey is you know dancing around on the platform. Um they're not going as fast as the um the the solo ride bikes, but they're talking about trust, dude.

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It's amazing.

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Um, but of course, you know, that's just the trit the trajectory of sidecar racing. Like when they first started, yeah, they were racing like sidecar rigs. And if you go back to the you know 1907, they were racing um just all around motorcycles.

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That was gonna be one of my questions, is like it was really like a durability test, yeah. Okay, okay. So, like what what was the origin? So the the people they wanted to were there just a bunch of lunatics that were like, hmm, let's see how fast we can ride our motorcycles, or probably somewhat road road testing and trying to figure out like

Trials Roots And Time-Based Racing

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what brakes or like what what do you know?

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Well, I think if you go back, we talked a little bit about this in some old episodes, so um I I'll I'll kind of start from scratch, but like early racing, you had the racing that existed was like horse racing, right? Foot racing, um maybe maybe rowing. Rowing, but like they were these were things that were not like this. Um and so when they when the motorcycle for scam, you had the bicycle boom and then by and then motorcycles, there's lots and lots of different manufacturers. The mo the motorcycle manufacturers saw this as an opportunity to market their products. So whether it was the actual manufacturer or or an owner's club of people that like own their the like Norton's, for example.

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New 2028 goal get as many Janice on the Isle of Man TT as possible.

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Oh, there is one on the Isle of Man. There's a Janice 50 on the Isle of Man. Oh, is there really? That's cool. Yeah. Um, but uh they saw these this as an opportunity to promote both their brand and motorcycling in general. And so some the what they were called trials. Okay. Um the trials were often not, they were like timed uh stages where you try and do the certain thing and it would demonstrate the durability or whatever of the bike.

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Right.

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Now, interestingly, the TT is not a flat out race with a group start. It's time. You're racing the clock.

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Is it one at a time or is it just like one at a time?

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I think they do, I'm not actually sure. I think it's one at a time every 10 seconds. Okay, okay. But the pro the, you know, man, it takes two or three people going faster, and then you get like a herd of bikes going together. That's but they are they that you're you're you are not racing anyone in particular, you're racing your time. Yeah, and I think that that one passing people on the track is difficult. Just as you can imagine. Um, but also um that has a long history of it being um going back to that kind of trials mentality. Now when this was a Grand Grant grand prize track, they all went at the same time. They were racing.

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That's insane to me. You said it was a good thing. No, I don't know.

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I don't know, I don't know if they if they had special requirements.

Qualifying And Learning 36 Miles

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I don't know enough about that that part of the TT history. The the T T starts on June 1st. Yeah. So we're on today is the first day of the opening qualification. So that this this week we'll all be qualifying. And that's something we can talk about a little bit. You were talking about before the the the stream is like, how do you know how fast you can go through that corner?

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Right, because you were saying like you would get just kind of comfortable in a way of like getting in the zone.

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My fear would be if I was to race. Yeah, it's like how do you know when you're past your threshold? Right. And and and yeah, if you get comfortable, one hair's breadth too comfortable, and you go a little too fast, and all you do you clip a curb and uh you're you're see ya, you're you're you're like flying to the air into like a pub. Right.

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And you're there you're not gonna get drinks after it, so it's gonna be a bad time.

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Um what were we saying? Uh but how do you know where where the line is? Oh, I I don't know. Uh all I can say is that Moto GP, let's say you you learn the track, right? Yeah, like half of it is you know, um there's a massive part of being a motorcycle a high-level motorcycle racer, which is just talent and and skill that's been developed, mechanical skill, mental skill, all these things coming together, and then also knowledge of the track, yeah, and being able to put that all together and know when know if you're know how close you can get to the edge, right? And how you can push beyond the edge even. Um, but with a track that's that's 36 miles long, over 200 c turns, I don't think anyone is gonna be able to like I'm sure Joey Dunlop or uh you know John McGuinness knows that track better than like as well as anyone possibly could, but I don't think that you could know it as well as you know like Laguna Seca. Right. Right, because there's not there's just shorter.

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There's only so many turns at Luna Seca, right? Right. I I think a lot of like I I I love uh fighter jets. So I'll watch like documentaries about the the blue angel, the blue angels and the thunderbirds, and and watching them go through their routines where they practice, they they like they imagine movements, they like sit there in a meeting and have their hand on the throttle and have their hand on the the joy the stick, and they're going through every single maneuver, and their shows are long, right? So I would imagine that. amount of precision and uh to to be a part of this this it's like a performance yeah yes it's exactly what it is and it's and it's rehearsed and it's practiced and it's like the final show baby and the stakes are high yeah yeah I I was actually I was watching a lot of TT videos over the weekend just kind of like thinking about this and like and then I sent one to Jansen this afternoon.

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I'm like can we use this as the countdown? Because that actually that video is the fastest recorded lap on the Owl of Man it was last year or the year maybe 24 I don't know um um Pete Hitchens I think is the right I'm not sure you saw me the video and I was like download but um the point I was trying to make with all that is that the qualification is such an important thing is that these guys have to learn the track.

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Yeah.

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And they and and so when you're like let's say you're a motorcycle racer and you're like hey I want to eight I want to race the TT how do you start doing that? Well you've got to go and go qualify and qualify and probably you don't I mean I don't know how long it takes until I don't think I was looking I I looked everywhere I could to see if there's actually like a qual like if you're required to memorize it or anything like that. And what I do all I could find is that it's there are a whole group of experienced or maybe retired TT writers and what they do is their job is to train they teach the track the rookies how the track works. And then you'll notice if you watch the videos you'll see these guys in like orange big flappy orange jerseys. Those are guys that are new and so it it signals it signals to everybody else like you know we were talking about like group rides like watch out for the newbies that's the new guy that's that's that's the TT version like give him a little extra room. Yeah he needs extra room in a flappy vest student river danger danger but anyway I just uh I I think that the the the qualification period is is just as important even for the really good riders because that's where they're gonna get better right you only have like the senior TT which is like the the last day so you have all these different kinds of events that are happening but the senior TT is the um thousandcc big boys the experienced riders and that's on the last day the senior TT you know you have you run I think it's six laps which is like over 200 miles. But you only get that one go. Right. So there's got to be a lot of workout to that and I'm sure all these guys are also racing the Ulster 200 and all the other road racing events that are you know getting you your your synapses firing but not on that track. And you have to admit like right the TT is that track. Yeah and it is like you have to know that particular place. Right.

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Is it open to to ride any other time?

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Well they have something called mad sunday

Mad Sunday And Road Hazards

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okay which is I don't know if they technically say this but basically anyone can go on the track on Sunday during TC and just like we gotta get you out there Richard. I mean it would be very I mean I think that you're there's a speed limit theoretically but um it's called Mad Sunday. And people just go out and like rip. But you can go and ride on um any town I mean like it's it's open road right um I'm sure that they probably I was I was wondering about this I was like don't you think they have like extra stringent like road maintenance rules right like these are the nicest freaking roads that you've ever been on.

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Although if you watch those videos you'll there's like iron grates and mantle covers and stuff I like I couldn't imagine I have like I I get a little fearful on any motorcycle when I'm like looking at sewer caps and and tar snakes and like oh what happened today I was got a little scrolling piece of tar a little tar snake yeah it's in and they can't have that no right no but still like there I'm sure there are some hazards on that road that everybody knows about just like the curbs. Yeah that and you're going that fast that curb comes out of nowhere like yeah yeah it just how do you know how do you they remember it they remember it is insane it's insane to me because there's no it wouldn't surprise me if it takes like months and months if not years to be able to be like okay I want to go for a qualifier.

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Well the thing is nowadays which we didn't have back in the day is we have video and I think a lot of these guys do exactly what we were doing before this. They just watch they watch yeah they watch onboard footage and then they have simulators I think that guy Pete uh Hitchens or whatever his name is he said that he used a simulator for like and and he does it like off season to make sure he's maintaining his knowledge and his synapses.

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I can't imagine like besides the actual riding itself the mental load that it takes uh to to do that to put like yourself in that a lot of these guys are married right kids

TT Culture Popularity And Travel Dreams

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yeah like I I that's bizarre to me the whole the whole thing is bizarre it's so cool.

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It's an interesting like sometimes I when I think about like you know adrenaline junkies people like you say wing suit people jumping out of airplanes and stuff I'm like like I I just it's just like yeah you're just like a a a you're just getting your next high right and but there's something about them the history of the TT and just the the culture that surrounds it. The fact that they basically close down an entire island and they don't just do this once there's like multiple TTs so there's like this this one's called the the TT yeah you know like the the big one but then they have the TT the classic TT and there's other events during the summer which I would actually I have heard I'm not an expert I've never been I'm it's on my bucket list but I heard that going to some of the smaller events is actually a way better experience because it's not as packed. If you go on like right now the Isle of Man is like packed and you get on a ferry to go to the island and it's just a sea of motorcycles. That's that's cool. That's really cool. I mean it would be really neat to go that time but the classic TT you get to go and you get to see vintage bikes racing and there's probably a whole lot less people because vintage bikes this doesn't get to crowds like like John McGinnis racing it's kind of cool too that it feels like it's kept it's um it's not like overly commercialized it doesn't seem yeah I think there was a period the guy who made it the most famous was um guy guy you know guy guy I can't believe I'm spacing anyway there was a he's a like lorry mechanic motorcycle racer and he's a a personality and he has a TV show and he did this whole thing and he he raced oh man and he was such such a big personality that he just got a lot of people interested in T T and so I think that the the interest has kind of like gone under the radar for a really long time and it's now becoming very very popular.

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I feel like a lot of motorsports in general are kind of gaining popularity yeah an F1 for uh because of a couple Netflix series right I think that blew up and I I think it's only a matter of time between uh so but about bucket list place to go I think we should go uh and we should get you on on the track itself and document it'd be really cool.

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Yeah the the most fun way to do it which I wait I've said before I think I said in the video would be to go to like a big city in England like London rent a bike and then ride across England to the ferry take it over and then just spend spend like a week or two on the Isle of Man and get to like because I think that the the place itself is so fascinating there. There was a car made on the Island is there yeah there was it was called the Peel 50 okay it was a 50cc car it was like this big we have there's a famous episode of Top Gear okay where um he drives the Peel 50 into the BBC studio on the on the elevator. Jeremy Clarkson like in the reverse is there's a handle in the back you can just drag it. But that was made on the Isle of Man. That's really cool. Yeah so they have this it's quite a historic seems like there's a 50cc Janus there's a Janice Halcyon 50 on the Isle of Man. Man is meant to be is meant to be I actually just recently heard from the owner who bought that bike originally and

Detroit Live Show And Rambler Roundup

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he's the guy who imported everything I don't think he owns it anymore but okay just heard from him recently gosh that's cool.

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Yep that's cool well that's all we got about the TT before we go we do have a couple news and announcements um the most importantly I think it is uh that we will be in Detroit is right uh a week from yesterday so this coming Sunday the 31st to do a live ramble stream at Moto Market um up there northeast of Detroit. Yeah moto Michigan is an imminent location um if you are not familiar with it already or in your near that area you should go check it out this weekend it's open to everybody the whole place it's incredible it's like a rambling Warren of Moto magic super cool uh they everything from a cat you know really good coffee place to a theater to an art gallery art gallery you name pool hall you name it you name it so we'll be there our show is gonna start at one one o'clock one p.m eastern um and we'll be you guys are more than welcome to come if you're around uh to enter or to to be a part of the live audience I'm not sure what it's even gonna look like but uh we will not then have a show that following Monday June 1st uh because of the show on the 31st so we're really excited about that it's gonna be a lot of fun uh also if you guys haven't signed up and got your tickets for the Rambler Roundup yet that's happening September 17th through the 20th uh go ahead and get your VP tickets so you can have first access to some of our workshops um as well as uh everything else included you don't have to worry about a single thing for the entire weekend that'll be a great weekend of just getting together and writing and having a good time we're gonna have some awesome rides we've really started upping our game this year with DGR on our blocking so it's gonna make everything a lot smoother it's gonna be great lots of things I'm excited

Final Thoughts And Where To Follow

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It's gonna be great. Well thank you so much everybody it's been fun this is a fun topic to talk about um I feel like we've just scratched the surface on it like absolutely we and this is like a the like primer yeah um and so I would encourage you all to look up the TT online they do a really good job marketing it and showing some of the races so you can follow along with the races again this week is all qualifying next week is the racing so check it out yeah we'll be watching it and we hope you do you do too we'll see you on Sunday at the Moto Market. And then there's no ramble stream on Monday no ramble stream on Monday correct yeah but we'll see you then bye that wraps up this episode of the Ramble Stream Podcast thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the show subscribe wherever you listen share it with a fellow rambler and please consider leaving a rating. And join us live every Monday at 7 pm on YouTube for our weekly ramble stream.

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