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004: The Power of Presence Under Pressure: Susan Bernstein on Listening to Your Body and Leading Differently

Parul Saini Season 1 Episode 4

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In this episode, Parul speaks with Dr. Susan Bernstein, a former management consultant turned leadership coach whose work sits at the intersection of neuroscience, somatic awareness and emotional resilience.

Susan has spent years inside fast-moving organizations and high-stakes environments, working closely with women leaders who are expected to stay composed, decisive, and clear no matter the circumstances.

This conversation is about what happens when the body speaks before the mind is ready.
How ambition can override intuition.
And why success under pressure requires more than thinking harder.

Susan reflects on spending much of her early career in her head, pushing through exhaustion, and disconnection until she learned firsthand what it costs to ignore physical and emotional signals.

She shares how studying mind-body psychology changed the way she understands decision-making.
Why regulation matters more than control.
And how presence can shift outcomes in moments that matter most.

The result is a real conversation about resilience, self-trust, and leading with presence when pressure is unavoidable.

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53:18 Reinvention After Personal and Professional Loss

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