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Terance Schmidt: Shifting the Internal Loops of ADHD

• Ryan DeJonghe, Founder of TranceWell.help • Episode 26

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In this raw and practical episode of AWAKEN with Ryan DeJonghe, Ryan steps into the hot seat for a live conversational hypnosis demonstration with Terance Schmidt. Terance, a practitioner who specializes in helping adults with ADHD move past "task paralysis," uses the "Enter the Loop" methodology to help Ryan explore internal resistance surrounding business and money.

The conversation highlights Terance’s journey from learning hypnosis for social confidence to using it as a high-level tool for neurodivergent professionals. Rather than focusing on "trying harder," Terance demonstrates how to pinpoint the exact moment an internal "loop" creates a blockage and how to shift it in real-time. This episode is a perfect example of how conversational hypnosis functions as a collaborative exploration of the mind to achieve effortless alignment.

Key Takeaways & Meaningful Quotes

  • "With ADHD, it’s not that you don’t want to do the thing. It’s that there is a 'loop' in the way. My job is to find where that loop starts and help you step out of it so you can just get on with your life." 
  • "You don't need to go into a deep trance to make a big change. We're just talking, but we're talking to the part of you that actually holds the keys to your behavior." 

How to Connect and Work with Us

Connect with Terance Schmidt: Terance specializes in helping adults overcome the exhaustion of ADHD-related task paralysis. You can experience his conversational approach for yourself by visiting his site. Website: hypnoticenhancement.com

Work with Ryan DeJonghe: Ready to explore your own transformation through hypnosis? Website: trancewell.help Email: ryan@trancewell.help

SPEAKER_00

All right, welcome everyone. We have a special guest with us today, Mr. Terrence Smith. Thank you, sir, sir, for being here. Oh, thank you, sir. Appreciate it. And we're going to do things a little differently. We're going to start off with uh um a session of sorts so you can see how Terrence does his magic, and then we'll have a regular episode where I'll ask some questions and then we'll close it with Terrence giving you, the viewer, listener, a little hypnotic gift of sorts. And uh just as a little context for for me running into Terrence, it was in Mike Mandel Hypnosis Academy, and they're having this special thing about being a confident hypnotist, and they had these breakout rooms, and then Terrence was in one of the breakout rooms where we're just supposed to just talk and let our you know, specifically we call it the newbie language, but we won't go into that here. We're just supposed to like practice saying words back and forth. And I remember, Terrence, you got me in such a uh a hypnotic loop just by your presence, and then you just that it's soon like our subconscious minds start just developing this rhythm back and forth, and just felt natural and fun. I was like, well, that dude's different than most hypnotists I know. So here we are. We just got a goodbye from you, I guess. Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_03

Well, thank you, Ryan. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, as well. And now we uh want to do a little you call it a practice session. I don't know what you want to call it.

SPEAKER_03

Just a little a little short thing, maybe 10, 20 minutes, just to give you viewers a taste of what it looks like when I'm doing this weird thing I do. It's most of what I do is taken from Timothy September's Enter the Loop program. It's a little it runs a little bit different than the typical, you know. Um put out your fingers, watch them come together and now go deep in trance. And yeah, as you float deep in trance and you experience what you're experiencing now, you'll begin to notice that there are resources you have that can begin to come into your life in wonderful ways. And I wonder how quickly you can start to notice these resources showing up in your life now. That kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, but that's good stuff, man. Oh, that's great stuff. Yeah. So do you find yours yourself? I I don't yeah, I don't mean to like I know this is like a session of sorts, but I'm just curious, do you find yourself balancing both the enter-the-loop stuff and hypnosis, or do you find yourself leaning mainly into ETL these days? Oh, enter the loop is hypnosis.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, centered in the quadrant of clean language. So I I I view hypnosis as being four major quadrants. Direct hypnosis, sleep now, indirect hypnosis. I wonder how quickly you can begin to just sleep. NLP, see this version of you that's different. So now go into this version of you. Boom! You've got the resource. Yeah, that is clean language.

SPEAKER_00

I'll give you a are you familiar with clean language? I am, yeah. So yeah, let's uh let's begin. Let's see see what you got.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, first I'd like to ask, do you have some small thing that you'd like a little help with that you don't mind having on camera?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, uh I don't know about small, but for me it's that balance of being a healer and running a business, like making a profit from it. I have there's some kind of yeah, yeah, I feel there's some kind of conflict. And then for those that are listening right now, I'm moving my hands back and forth in front of my chest, and then Terrence is mirroring what I'm doing, and then just drawing to light this conflict I feel between being a healer and the healers I see in the past just do it, like these gurus, Jesus, whatever you want to call them, they just do. And the universe provides for them, and I want to have that faith. And at the same time, I scroll Facebook and I see these I'm the best hypnotist in the world, and I got a yacht and five Lamborghinis. I'm like, well, I think it'd be kind of fun to have a yacht and five Lamborghinis. Sure, sure. But again, we go back to my two hands in front of me, is this conflict, and I feel it in my chest. This conflict that goes back and forth. And it's like it wants to heal and love and just allow the universe to take care of my needs versus this drive to want to make an abundant amount of money where I can just use money as toilet paper.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so you've got this this wanting to heal. And when there's wanting to heal, like one of the gurus like Jesus, just healing people, and the universe provides. And then there's this drive. One to make enough for five Leborginis in a yacht, and use money like toilet paper. Right. Yeah, and there's a conflict. And uh do that again, would you? Those two hands moving back and forth.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we can even increase the amount of war they have, just pure love that heals just by people thinking on the name or just believing, and they're just healed, and then I turn around and I manifest, and my coffee's already made for me in the morning, and the omelet just makes itself, you know, just appears out of nowhere like Star Trek. You know, just everything is in harmony, and I sing and the birds come to my window. And then on the other hand, it's me smoking a big fat cigar and having anything I want in the world because I can buy anything in the world. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What does this? Do me a favor, just hold those hands up. Yeah. What is what is buy anything? Have anything. This abundance know about healing. Does it does it mind healing?

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, so the abundant hand here I'm holding up doesn't mind that it heals people. It feels like it's a hypocrite, though. Because it could just use all of its money and help other people and then live at net zero. Live at net zero. Right. And it doesn't quite want that. It just wants to uh accumulate wealth. It wants to accumulate wealth. Yeah, so if it can help people, great. Huh.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so if it can help people, great. It wants to accumulate wealth doesn't want to live in net zero. This healer part.

SPEAKER_00

Huh. Yeah, the healer part wants to believe in just I create my own reality. You create and by focusing on love and light, there'll be equality in the world. There won't be assholes that have $500 million yachts polluting the environment, causing wars. It'll just be peace. There won't be this dichotomy of rich living next to poor. It'll just be perfect, everyone healed and then enlightened.

SPEAKER_03

Alright.

SPEAKER_00

So do you really believe He said something small, right? So yeah, very easy.

SPEAKER_03

Easy peasy, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What do you really believe about all this conflict now?

SPEAKER_00

My belief shifts to the right of the healer that just can believe that all my needs will be met, the universe has my back, and that I don't need a yacht. And yet this other part of me still wants a yacht.

SPEAKER_03

Wants a yacht.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Now if you step back from that and let it just go out there a little bit. And you just let it go there. Look at those two pieces. Wanting a yacht, wanting to be this selfless healer that lives in net zero and the universe takes care of it. What do you notice from back there?

SPEAKER_00

Duality, that they're two separate things. They're not one. They're not one.

SPEAKER_03

And if you go out a little further, what do you notice is the commonality?

SPEAKER_00

The commonality? Even from a further distance, they feel distinct and separate. As if black and white light and dark. Black and white, light and dark.

SPEAKER_03

What do you know about black and white? Light and dark. What do they have to do with the big picture?

SPEAKER_00

The big picture? I I don't know. What do they have to do with conflict? They're uh odds against each other. One is a striving. And the other is just is. And then the st and I'm for those listening, I'm looking at my right and left hand and feeling them out. I'm visualizing and feeling. I'm feeling what it's like to be a healer and be able to just allow the universe to support me in its own way. And on the left hand, it feels like a dream. And where it's like it feels fun and exciting. The one on the right feels light and love, and the one on the left feels like fun and exciting and fast. So light and love.

SPEAKER_03

And fun and exciting. And fast. What's the relationship between light and fun?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I don't know, man. Like light is just being at presence and the fun is doing. Planning and like just saying I can create um this rich life at the expense of something. It feels like something has to be someone has to suffer in order for me to have a yacht. Versus more people are healed if I'm just light and allow the universe. I see. Someone has to suffer. Right. It's a belief of mine that sits in there that in order for someone to become rich, someone else needs to suffer.

SPEAKER_03

For someone to become rich, someone else needs to suffer. If someone were to become rich without someone else needing to suffer, how would that happen?

SPEAKER_00

That's the mystery.

SPEAKER_03

How many people would you have to help?

SPEAKER_00

And then the pause is just allowing it to process. We do a lot of that. Yes, my head I get it. I get the idea that I can help people. Ah, in your head. And yet, how can I help people that can't afford to be helped? That's a great question.

SPEAKER_03

How can you afford how can you help people who can't afford to be helped? What does that have to do with this podcast?

SPEAKER_00

That's a peculiar question. Um the podcast is for me to explore. So what happened is since I died in 2011, I've tapped into this incredible place of potentiality where I was no one and everyone at the same time, where I was nowhere and everywhere at the same time. It's just an incredible place of power and peace. And so since then, I've been finding my way to tap into that without having to die to get there. And then so by interviewing different people in the hypnosis community and otherwise about what our subconscious is, and I'm learning more about the superconscious.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. It's amazing stuff. And when you're learning all this and you're putting it into your podcast, how much are you charging your listeners?

SPEAKER_00

I'm not making any money off of this.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. So you're not charging your listeners and yet you're giving them something.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So on this, doing the podcast feels like the right hand, the light healing hand.

SPEAKER_03

So what does that have to do with helping people who can't afford?

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's the right hand. That's the Jesus-like nature. The left hand, meanwhile, screaming is like, you're not going to get a yacht by doing shit for free. Ah. And yet the right hand says, Well, there's people that can't afford to pay for your yacht that need to help. And yet, maybe in their life down the road, they might be able to if they got the help. But the thing is, how do I help them now to get where they're going to help me in the future?

SPEAKER_03

Huh? Yeah. So how do you get? I'm curious, you keep saying yacht. The what? You keep saying yacht. Let me ask you a question. When you have a yacht, yeah. What does that give you?

SPEAKER_00

Nothing. Like I had no desire in my heart to actually have a yacht. I love going out on the water. The yacht to me is the epitome of excess. Okay. I could say a spaceship instead. I could be a Bezos or a space. Okay. Yeah. And say I just want my own space. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What do you really want? If it's not a yacht for fun, luxury sports cars.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

When it comes to material, what do you want to do?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there are material things that I do want. Like I want to be able to just pay off the house. I do want to just agree to come.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's terrible. You're so selfish.

SPEAKER_00

No, I live in the house just to pay it off. And then start my own real estate company and just, you know, all this, these other things. And then yeah, so I could be happy with that. And then you feel these little bubbles of doubt. It's like, well, I know a yacht. In my mind, these beliefs have kept me from the yacht. So I'm just saying, what if I shoot for a yacht? What will I get? And then these little bubbles of doubt saying, Well, you can't even make, you know, you owe the IRS. Yeah. These little bubbles come up. Yeah. And they say, Oh, you you owe the IRS money. How can you possibly pay off your house if you owe the IRS so much money? You know? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so you want to not owe the IRS money. Yeah. And pay off your house. Yeah, and be comfortable. Pay off the house. Comfortable. Hmm, yep. And what's the relationship between comfortable money and yacht money?

SPEAKER_00

The ability to do anything I want at any time.

SPEAKER_03

Ah. Yeah. So success. Yacht money really is your real yacht. Is being able to do what you want when you want. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a very different thing than yacht money, isn't it? So you want enough to be able to pay your bills. And to be able to live your life, to do the things you want to do when you want to do them. Right. Okay. Now that's very different. Do me a favor, do that hand thing again. Hold on a second. What do you notice about that? Now that yacht money is living your life, Mike.

SPEAKER_00

Uh it's not as intense as a fight. It's still it's still conflict, but yeah, it's not as intense. Okay, well that's interesting, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03

It's not as intense. Conflict. What would you like this conflict to be instead? What would you like to have instead? Conflict. You'd like to fully believe that you can choose the life you want. What's right.

SPEAKER_00

What's the question? What's standing in the way of that? Doubt from the past. So, like, for instance, I in the business full story, just saying that I said, okay, I think this is a good offer, this is a good deal, I'm going to put it out there, and it was just a dud. And it was disappointing to have that failure. And it's like, well, I guess I can't create my own reality if what I produce doesn't give me that reality. Wait, wait. How many failures did you have? Oh, my you know, life is full of failures. It's just that particular failure resonates with me as I'm talking about growing a business.

SPEAKER_03

That failure. You're saying you put out one thing and you had one dud.

SPEAKER_00

That one, and then I had another and another and another. And it's like, so how do I continue to push through all these duds? Because it's telling me it's not reaffirming my faith. It's not my work is not producing what I believed would be possible. Instead, I'm just producing all these rotten eggs. And it's like, how am I supposed to produce a golden egg if all I'm laying is rotten eggs?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So far you've produced rotten eggs. And you haven't produced the golden egg. Yet. So how do you keep your faith? What is it you'd like to have?

SPEAKER_00

To lay a golden egg whenever I want.

SPEAKER_03

To lay a golden egg whenever you want. What does that look like?

SPEAKER_00

It looks like a calendar full of clients paying me good money and me setting up a way to orchestrate a way for people to get help at whatever their income level is, even if it's for free. And that's been the vision all along. What happened to conflict? That was before the rotten eggs. I felt that pureness, that vision that I can help both rich and poor. That was the vision. And then when I go to lay the egg, just foul smelling rotten.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So foul. Smelling rotten. Alright. So we've gotten to this point where instead of wanting to be Jesus and everybody for free, and you don't want to be uh Jeff Bezos on the yacht. None of that man. Neither of those. You wanna help people who can afford to help. You who can afford to pay a full price, have a sp what like a sliding skill type of thing for people who can't afford. Or some other kind of product. Maybe even like you do in a spree podcast, right? You give it away. You'll probably do other things that you give away. And you help people. Just like we're gonna do the sygnosis at the end, right? And you're gonna give that away.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm just gonna give it away too, you're not paying me. Right, right. It's gonna help some people. Right. I feel good about that. I feel good about that too. I like helping people for free too. Yeah. So now you're coming to a very different part of this. That conflict that was there. What happens as you look from this place back at that, wanting to be Jesus, wanting to hone a yacht?

SPEAKER_00

Is it all just It feels more unified than it was. Before it was totally dis different. And now it feels more unified, like Jesus on the yacht.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. Alright. Feels more unified. And now you've got this place where you want to help people. You want to get paid. You want to have a calendar full of appointments where you're going in helping people. Right? Yeah. And most people pay you, but some people can't.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

People we help people anyway. And whatever that looks like for you. I don't know. And the only real issue is that so far you've laid rotten eggs. Yeah. Now tell me more about rotten eggs.

SPEAKER_00

It's where faith is so built up. Whether you go to the Christians listening will recognize this, where you go to a church service, you hear the sermon, you're moved, you feel like you can literally do what Jesus said and move a mountain just by thinking it. And you have a vision, you feel like the vision has been given to you by the universe. You feel it feels so real. And then you open up the door and a brick falls on your head. That's what it feels like. It's like, well, why did I have the vision if a brick is just going to fall on my head?

SPEAKER_03

A brick falls on your head. You had a vision. You could create this amazing. Yeah. And a brick falls on your head. What does that brick really mean to you?

SPEAKER_00

It means reality.

unknown

Reality.

SPEAKER_00

Where it's like I have this universe, this vision, this pure utopia in my head. And then the brick, because of gravity, Newton's law, you can't change it, hits me in the head. It's like, well, I thought I can manipulate reality through my own conscious manifesting. I feel like the universe gave it to me, and now it's my job to manifest it. And then gravity comes and says, Boink, no, I'm in charge. A brick is reality. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Brick is gravity. Reality. So what is the connection between the grand vision between reality?

SPEAKER_00

I want to be Luke Skywalker lifting his X fighter out of the swamp. I don't want to be a dumb droid getting his head chopped off with a lightsaber. And that's what day-to-day life sometimes feels like. It's just like I'm a droid. I have no choice. It's the illusion of choice. I'm just beep, beep, beep, and then like I'm just a puppet of something. Beep, beep, beep. And it's like, oh, well, something gave me this vision to heal people of all levels. Something gave that to me. I feel it in my heart. Yes. And yet I continue to walk out the door, and bricks just keep falling on my head. I'm like, well, where's when is this vision going to come to pass?

SPEAKER_05

Huh.

SPEAKER_00

It feels like I was lied to.

SPEAKER_03

So bricks falling on your head. And you're not Luke Skywalker, right?

SPEAKER_00

I thought I was. I feel like I was born. I feel like I was born to be able to do things like that. To manipulate reality.

SPEAKER_03

To manipulate reality. How do people manipulate reality with bricks?

SPEAKER_00

That's a damn good metaphor. Yeah, they take the brick and they build a house. Ah.

SPEAKER_03

And when you take those bricks that are falling on your head anyway. Yeah. And you build a house out of them. What kind of house is this house going to be? And what will you do in it?

SPEAKER_00

Well, it feels like a failing house. Brick feels like a failure. Like if I try to build the yacht I want with a bricks, it's gonna fucking sink.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then so it feels like everything that has to do with the brick is a sinking feeling. Failing. It feels like the brick is failing. And yeah, I get the idea, okay. Life gives you lemons, you make lemonade, a brick hits me on the head, build a house, but I don't want to be in a house. I want it that feels closed in to me versus I want to feel expansive. So what would you build instead of a house? I feel like chucking the brick back up to whoever threw it and hit them in the head with it. Have you seen the price of bricks lately? Well, I don't I don't have any need for a brick. I need fiberglass and metal for my yacht. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You could call it a gift, I guess. The brick is a gift, but it's never been the gift I wanted. No.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes it's not the gift you want. What does it have to do with reality?

SPEAKER_00

It sucks. Like I want to be able to fulfill this mission inside of me. And why did the universe give me a mission that doesn't seem like it's possible to achieve? So wait.

SPEAKER_03

I must be confused. You said your mission is to heal people. Right, that's the vision. Okay, so healing people. The kind of thing we do.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Does that take being able to lift TIE fighters, uh X-Wing fighters out of the muck?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in my viewpoint, obviously not literally, but my viewpoint is that what's possible, we see that we can reduce the size of tumors. We can give certain type of blind people their sight back. That to me is pretty damn cool. And it doesn't feel like I'm living on a yacht doing that. Do you need a yacht to be able to do? It's a want. It's a want. There's this vision that is this healer that I feel like I'm compelled to do, and then there's this desire. And I don't know where that desire came from, but it wants things. It wants material things.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So when you have things, what does that give you?

SPEAKER_00

It's funny because it's the word that comes to mind is freedom. And yet on the right hand, the light hand, the healing hand, that complete trust in the universe hand, it's freedom. It's a faith. The thing is that faith hasn't been made. Like, how do I increase that faith? Like, if I want to go on this huge, beautiful trip to investigate something, how will it manifest? Versus over here, I think money is freedom on my left hand and the the yacht the yacht hand, right? Uh-huh. That feels like freedom, and that that doesn't feel like trust in the universe. That feels like my money buys whatever I want, versus on the right hand, it's my faith gets me whatever I want.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

So faith and money. What does money have to do with faith?

SPEAKER_00

It feels like if I had pure faith, I wouldn't even have to worry about money. And if I had pure money, I wouldn't worry about faith. Because I could just buy whatever I want. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What happens when you have faith that you can make all the money you want?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know what that feels like. It feels like earlier in my life I had that faith. And then those bricks started knocking that faith out of my head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. So what needs to happen?

SPEAKER_00

I need to um talk with Terrence and see how we can reconcile that. Because like I want that faith. I want to I there's a part of me that believes that if I just believed enough, it will happen. And then that brick happens, and I'm like, damn, I thought it was real. Because I know intellectually our brains don't know the difference between the inside and the outside. Like in the inside it felt real. And then I open my eyes, it's like I feel my wallet full, and then I look at it and it's empty. It's like, how can I have faith of a full wallet if every time I look at it it's empty? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, it's just dawning on me. And this is we'll both laugh. But people of our age who grew up in the time we grew up in have all tried to use the force to pull something toward us, haven't we? Of course. Of course. Of course. We've all realized at some point that we've got to get up our off our ass and do it ourselves, haven't we?

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's such a brick to the head, man.

SPEAKER_03

It's a brick to the head.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And bricks are reality.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And when you get hit in the head with reality, reality that you gotta get up and do it yourself. What do you know then?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I know is that pissed off state inside of me. It's like, why did the universe tell me that I can achieve this if I can't? And yet there's still a part of me that thinks I can, even though the brick hits me in the head every day. It's like peanuts, you know, Charlie Brown gets up to go kick that damn football. And every time Lucy moves the ball, every time. And that's what it feels like. It feels like the universe says, Go ahead, kick the ball. And then every time I go to kick it, the universe goes, yoink! No ball for you, man. Okay. It's like I promise, I promise, I'll hold the ball this time. You can kick it as hard as you want. I run, I take a running charge at it. Yoink, and then I fall on my ass.

SPEAKER_03

So what does Charlie Brown need to do differently?

SPEAKER_00

From my perspective, go take up saxophone or something. You know, go play in the band. Huh. You know, maybe he wasn't meant to be a football player. Yet he wants to believe he is. Ah. That's interesting. And to me, that's incredibly frustrating. If you want to be a football player, Charlie Brown, then I don't know, find a different partner. I I have no idea. Find a different partner. What would a different partner do? Differently. Hold the ball.

SPEAKER_03

Hold the ball. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Lucy's kind of a hmm.

SPEAKER_00

She's a dickhead.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Okay. So finding a different partner. What's your version of that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, to me, the universe is Lucy.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then so the universe says, Here, I promise Ryan that you're going to be the greatest football player in this analogy ever. And just come kick this ball. I'll hold it for you. And I do the work, right? The universe gives me a vision. I do the work and yet it fails. And then I'm like, why'd you do that, universe? Why'd you pull the ball from me?

SPEAKER_02

Huh.

SPEAKER_00

And so it's kind of hard to find a different partner when you're talking about the universe being your partner.

SPEAKER_03

So this idea that the universe gives you a vision. You go to try to make that vision a reality. Believing in it really hard. And it doesn't happen. Play an egg. A rotten egg. That means that the universe is your Lucy. Just yoinking the ball. Is that right? Do you really believe all that?

SPEAKER_00

The funny thing is, that's what feels like, and it feels like that's in my body and my subconscious is those beliefs. And yet the superconscious in my vernacular continues to whisper, keep kicking. Keep kicking. Right. My body's like, why? What's the point? It's just going to be another failure. So I want to be able to align the inner feeling with the super feeling.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Alright. So this feeling in your body that says, What's the point? You've tried a bunch of times, laid eggs, kicked for the ball, the ball wasn't there. You land on your S. Aug. Yeah. Um, and that feeling of what's the point? Can you point to it in your body?

SPEAKER_00

I was doing it with my hands where it feels all over like um my lower chest and abdomen region. Okay. And then it actually is funny because I feel like there's a brick implanted in my head. The last one that fell on me. It feels like it's still there, that brick. It's still there.

unknown

Huh.

SPEAKER_03

So the brick is still there. Can you can you like show me the outline of the brick?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm just gonna pull it out, man.

SPEAKER_03

You're just gonna pull it out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, just pull it out. Both hands, put it on the desk. There's the brick that hit me last time.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, what feels different now that you've pulled it out and put it on the desk in front of you.

SPEAKER_00

Uh perspective. Perspective. Like right. Tell me more about perspective. Um it feels like I can learn from it. You can learn from it. Right. Huh.

SPEAKER_03

A brick. You can learn from it.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Well, what happens when you build a bunch of learnings one on top of the other.

SPEAKER_00

The um rebel in me visualizes a pile of bricks over there in the corner. I just want to chuck this brick onto that pile. It's like fuck building anything with those bricks because every brick hurt.

SPEAKER_03

Every brick hurt.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't want to deal with them.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Sometimes that's how learnings are. Right. Yeah. And yet, if you were to build something out of them.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I have no desire to build anything with them. Like, I I I see the beauty in the pile of bricks. Yeah, as I look over and I can actually kind of like see imagine the pile of bricks. And to me, that has a certain beauty to it because it'll look at all that I've been through, look at all I've suffered for my dream.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Look at all you've been through. Look at all you've suffered for your dream. And there's a beauty to it. What happens next?

SPEAKER_00

Uh next is I'm just going to sit with the vision of Jesus on the yacht.

SPEAKER_03

And as you sit with a vision of Jesus on the yacht. Let's go ahead. That's right. And you can sit with a vision. Jesus on the yacht. I don't know. What you might notice about the yard. Or about Jesus. Of the temperature of the air. The scent of the ocean. As you said with this vision. And I have no idea of Jesus on the yard. Who has said all these wise wise things has something? What if he's just gonna enjoy the uh and the weather? I have no idea. I don't know. If you're unconscious. Might give you some bit of t understand.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was good, man. Yeah, that was a fun little trip. Yeah. Um It's interesting looking at I don't know what to call it. We'll just call it Jesus on the yacht. That's interesting. Feeling that and feeling the joy that comes up from that and the laughter. I find it funny. I find it amusing. I think even when I first said it rewind 20, 30 minutes ago, whatever it was, when I said Jesus on the yacht, you laughed. And it's a funny image. Jesus on the yacht, right? Um and yet it feels authentic to who I am. And so that feels good. And at the same time, as things came in my head about what I can do to begin walking towards Jesus on the yacht. And unfortunately, I still need a dock. I'm quite not at the walking on water part yet, but I'll need a dock at least for the yacht.

SPEAKER_03

Docks are good for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Cool, man. So that was that was that was real fun. I loved how you blended all those elements. There's four parts of you know, you got the direct, indirect hypnosis, you got the clean language, and you got the the NLP in there. Um which is nice. It's a nice blending of all of them. What would you say? Well, I guess first for the listeners, what got you into hypnosis? How like you've been doing this a while. What what originally got you into it? Like, did you did you have something in your life where you want you're seeking it and you got the answer through hypnosis?

SPEAKER_03

I'd love to tell you that it was some kind of wonderful, noble like that.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

I would, but I'd be full of shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So the reality, once upon a time, I was terrible with women. Yeah. And I got better. Oh look, I gave away gave away the end of the story. But I started getting into these this pickup artist routine. Yeah. And some of it was gross and I didn't want to do it. And some of it was really benign, like learn to strike conversations with people. So when you when you do approach a woman that you'd like to get to know, you're not like I don't know to talk to people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

My name is Florida. You probably won't like me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So, yes, good stuff like that. But then they had this thing that they said, you can learn hypnosis and use it to make women sleep with you. Right. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah. I started the ball rolling, but then I realized, hey, wait a second, dude. Make women sleep with you. Well, you can do that with a gun or a knife, too. And it's not who you want to be. Yeah. Yeah. So um, but then I had this this other little epiphany that said, hey, wait a second. If I could use it for these, you know, awful and creepy purposes, yeah. Couldn't I use it to just make myself someone that, you know, women might want to sleep with?

SPEAKER_01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

And uh, yeah, I started doing that and kind of worked through my own crap and my neurosis and my shit. Right. Became a lot more comfortable in my own skin. And uh, well, lo and behold, yeah, it turns out that turning yourself into a reasonably well-adjusted, decent guy uh does work wonders. Yeah. It sure does. And cooking, cooking. Oh, yes. If you can cook, it'd be the path to your door.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, I'm still working on uh yeah, I'm still working on that manifesting someone making my eggs for me every morning. You know, I'm still it's a work in progress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My fiance manifested too. So like what yeah, so it's like a battle of the manifesting, I guess. She's a better manifestor than I am, I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't mind doing a cooking. I I like it actually.

SPEAKER_00

And it's interesting you talk about the picking up woman because the same thing that happens in those pickup artist books is also interestingly being tested in the medical field now, and particularly that building of rapport. Yeah. That rapport. And I there was an interesting study where emergency room doctors where they would just mirror the breath of people coming in, just their breathing rate, just doing nothing else, everything else the same, just mirroring the rate of the breathing of their patients, increased the outcomes of those patients. Yeah. It's just a simple thing like mirroring body language and stuff like that. And then that works for picking up women. And then it's it's to me, picking up women's kind of more badass than raising an X-Wing out of a swamp. It's like it's like solving that that mystery. And my path down that route was through stand-up comedy, which I feel has a lot of hypnotic things in it, as well as like stand-up improv and stuff. Nice. Yeah. Okay. But that's cool. Thanks for sharing that. And then what was your big aha moment when you finally when it finally clicked?

SPEAKER_03

Well, even though I'd been making a living uh making and selling these hypnosis recordings, yeah. And doing really well with that. I got into Mike Mandel hypnosis. I didn't join yet. I just did their five-day challenge that they had going on. They taught me this one technique, a meta pattern, which I'm gonna demonstrate a little bit of uh in this uh when I when I do my hypnosis. And that night I learned it in like an hour, they taught it. It was so good. I took it that night to my friend who uh sh her husband had died, and her husband, well, like me, did most did all the cooking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And she was uh she'd she hadn't cooked in 30 years. So she'd go into the kitchen to make food and she'd have a panic attack. She was having big panic attacks, just from her husband dying and all this stuff, and now she was responsible for everything.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I used that that ADAC pattern that night. And like a light switch, just gone. It took 15, 20 minutes, and she has never had that problem again.

SPEAKER_05

Oh wow. Just gone.

SPEAKER_03

I had I'd never done anything like it in my life. I'd never seen anything like it in my life. I did not know that hypnosis could be that effective, that quick, and just poof, problem gone. And I was like, Yeah. Okay. Next day, Chris Thompson is like, all right, we're not gonna make a big pitch. If you want to get into the MMHA, it's yeah, I think it was like $2,000 for you know, lifetime membership or $50 a month. I was like, shut up and take my money. Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm I'm lifetime. Boom. Yeah, and I got in that day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was that was a love bulb. I agree with you on the Mike Mandel and Nelson's Academy. And I've had Chris on here, the Mike on here, and yeah, we're yeah, it's by far the best thing. There's just so much content, and it's not just them. There's two things that stand out to me that people don't realize is one is the practice rooms.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Like just being able to get in there 24 hours a day, yeah, finding people, there are plenty of people to work with is amazing. And the other thing that's really amazing is just this wealth of library of other people in the business and their perspectives. Yes. So you have the top hypnotists in the world, and there's even some that are no longer with us in that in those recordings, and just a wealth of knowledge and perspectives and really get a whole angle of hypnosis. Absolutely brilliant. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the it blows me away that they bring in people who are their competitors. Right, right, exactly. But they're they're friends with everybody, you know, all the greatest hypnotists in the world are coming by and doing, you know, 90 minutes. That's the standard, you know, 90 minute to tell to teach you something amazing. Yeah. Teach me something amazing. I love them. And then, you know, and it's like a five-minute program. Hey, here's this program I've got going. You can join.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I've joined a few of them, and I've I've learned from a lot of those people. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. There's so much to learn.

SPEAKER_00

So much to learn. Now you mentioned that doing that with with her and that quick resolution. Yeah. What other cool things, like great stories that you've witnessed? What's what's that what's something that pops up to your head?

SPEAKER_03

Man, one of my favorites. Um, so I worked with this person who had been a an army paratrooper and a like first responder person. So they were on scene when there was this big major accident in the military. Like a fighter jet or something flew, and the wing clipped a fuel tank of in mid-air. Midair. I don't know how that happened, but clicked the fuel tank, and burning fuel got dropped from a big height on all these guys, all these soldiers. So this person was like one of the first responders. They were they're bringing in all these guys who were burning, yeah. And they got all this stuff going on, and they're you know, like one was uh one of the memories this person had was an 18-year-old crying for his mommy. His hair is burnt, his skin is burnt, he's all fucked up. Right. So this person had 30 years later, if they smell the smell of burning hair, total meltdown. And they were in like the BDSM scenes, so yeah, they're doing they're at a party, somebody's doing some you know, some kind of wax play or fire or something, and there's a smell of burning hair, and they they have to jump in their car, they're driving home crying and sobbing hysterically for two hours of driving, and they were just messed up. So I saw them post about it, and I was like, Let me help you out. Yeah. So we do an hour, and when it's done, I ask them, okay, oh, here's what I want you to do. And the whole time this person's brain is saying, This shit ain't gonna work. This is bullshit, yeah, yeah. So I say, okay, here's what I want you to do. I want you to clip a little bit of your hair and put it in a candle. And they're just like, you gotta be kidding me. Oh, go ahead. All right. Stinks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Problem solved. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Just totally done.

SPEAKER_00

So so two questions there. I I love the part where it's basically telling them you don't have to believe it. I hear a lot of those stories. You don't have to believe a thing. And it there's a little bit of confliction there between what we as synthesis know about Thresh. Like you think, oh, the perfect person that's full of belief has to come in. But that's so far for the truth. You don't have to have to believe a damn thing. Just sit there, play around with it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the only the only caveat is if you'll do what I say. Right. So if if I say, okay, you know, imagine you're walking on a beach. Right. No, I'm not gonna imagine it. Okay, I can help you. Yeah. I'm not a wizard, I'm not using the force. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Now, the other part I wonder is the process you'll you'll get the results. Yeah, exactly. Because that's just how it works.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that the mind affects the brain. People don't realize that. They think that the mind is just an emanation of the brain. No, the door swings both ways. Right, right. If you think certain thoughts, your brain will adjust. I mean, if you think horrible thoughts for 20 years, you're gonna have a miserable life. Yeah, yeah. On the other hand, if you think nice, happy thoughts, yeah, your body will do nicer things. Absolutely. I mean, you can you can look at people who have been, you know, thinking miserable thoughts for for 50 years of their lives. They don't look so great. They don't look so great.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. And I wonder what compelled you to say I can help. Because you look at stats, like let's say smoking cessation or whatever. Some some hints have better stats than others, and yet no one is a hundred percent success.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So I was just wondering what made you say I can help?

SPEAKER_03

Oh. That's uh that kind of thing, you know, uh uh a trauma, a PTSD from a specific event. That's just so fucking easy. And I felt I felt bad for this person. And I knew that if I this was on a social media thing, so I knew that if if it didn't work, they'd they'd probably be like, oh my god, the Terrence guy, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So you had that kind of I was not worried about that at all. I knew how this was gonna go before I sent the message. That kind of stuff is easy. If you come by and you've got a phobia, you know, you're snakes, you're afraid of heights. Uh PTSD from a single event, that's basically the same thing. Not that we can't do chronic PTSD. I worked with a person who had spent three years watching his wife die of cancer, and like all their friends abandoned him because uh she didn't want to see all his any of her friends, so she made him tell all the friends that oh yeah, she can't, she's just not up to it, and then afterward not tell them, after she died, even to not tell them that it was me say not wanting to so well his friends abandoned him. So he had this chronic PTSD heap. Yeah, 20 years later he's sleeping two hours a night. Guy hadn't slept more than two hours in 20 years. Yeah. Yeah, that took three sessions.

SPEAKER_00

And what do you what do you see the common thread is in helping people with PTSD? Like what's the is there a certain technique? Is there a certain like protocol? Like what do you usually lean towards doing?

SPEAKER_03

First thing I'm gonna do is the rewind technique.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I'll do some I'll do some interloop to gain rapport. You know, get into their world and to get into the loop of how they're creating the problem. Because, you know, uh if you've read uh hypno Transist People Live. A Transist People Live amazing book. It took me a year to read it because I had every time I'd read like two paragraphs, I'd have to play with something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Into the lab. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, you you make sense of how they're creating this effect. You know, it's not what happened to you, it's what you're doing with it afterward that creates this hypnotic loop that you know you feel like you're still they feel like they're still there.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, figuring out how they're creating it, and okay. But then a simple rewind technique is a great place to start. So for this person, I had them make a movie, a montage, yeah, a training montage in a Rocky movie or something like that. I had them montage of the entire scene. And then I, you know, throw them in the movie theater, had them you know, disassociate from it as you go forward, associate into it and run backwards, going backward inside, see what you saw, feel what you saw. And that strips all the emotion out, you know. There's a reason we do it. Right, right. It's it strips the emotion out. And I had them do it like, you know, seven, eight times or whatever. First disassociated, you're watching yourself doing a thing, and then into you know, watching yourself doing a thing. But on top of that, you know, some of the a bunch of ETL, a bunch of other stuff. After the first after the first session, he slept like four hours a night. Which he was like, Oh my god! I never felt so good. Yeah, but then after three sessions, had him ride his rain.

SPEAKER_00

It still amazes me seeing that. Just like sometimes, and it just sometimes what amazes me is the amount of time it takes. Because, you know, me, I don't know if you've experienced it in my life. I've seen therapists, traditional therapists, for 20 years, and feel like I'm maybe marginally better. And then hypnosis, like for instance, just just like the guy you mentioned sleep, and that's what made me think of it. A guy I've been seeing a psychologist for 10 years about his sleep. He just comes to my office just to shoot the shit. I just have a conversation with him, clean language and whatnot. And within 15 minutes, he feels like he could go to sleep, and then he texts me the next day, slept the whole night. It's like it's it and it's like, how? How does it, you know, like it's like it almost feels like magic, but we know it's not because it's repeatable. It's like a science. If you can replicate the experiment, then it well, I'll tell you a story.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah, and you wouldn't think of rural Georgia as having good pizza, but uh I'm originally from New York City, I like good pizza. But these guys were from the Bronx. Yeah. So the guy who's he's in Athens, but he had this satellite restaurant, Little Italy. So I go there one day, and they know me. Um I was going there all the time. And they're freaking out. The two guys, they're like, Oh my god, they're they're running around trying to get things under control, and I'm like, what's going on? So I I go back there, and there's a pipe burst, uh, you know, a PVC shooting water straight up, and they're trying to cover it with towels and put their pockets and all this stuff. And I say, Where's the shutoff? Yeah, yeah, you're like, you're you know, you're they didn't know they didn't know how to deal with a a leaf. Oh man, yeah. So where's the shutoff? We don't know. So I'm like, where's the basement? We don't know that either. I'll find the basement. There's gotta be a basement, you know. Yeah, yeah. I go down in the basement, and that's when that's where I found the shutoff. Yes, shut off the water, and so I'm like, okay, now you can fix the problem. Yep. You can't do shit without trying to go first. You gotta go down the basement.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, I love that metaphor. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_03

You can make pizza upstairs all day long.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you gotta go down the basement. Yeah. And I know that some people I'm not telling anyone here to not take medication. For me, it felt like my water was overflowing and they were trying to drop these like nuclear pill bombs down in There to clog up the water when it's like just shut it off. Like I it's like and then with hypnosis, it feels like, oh, now I have the knob. If I want water, I can turn it on and off to whatever I want it to be.

SPEAKER_03

That's not to say that we've got all the answers. We don't. If somebody comes along and they can't make boundaries because once upon a time their their mother said, You never say no to me, and they just generalize that to never say no to anybody. And now and we we neutralize that, okay. Boom. Yeah. One session, you know, just something like that. Sometimes it's 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and they go, Oh, I just had this memory. And it just gone. But that person then may say, I have no idea how to make boundaries. And you know what I can do for that? Jack and shit. I have no training, no qualifications, I have no business charging anybody money to teach them how to set boundaries. You might as well just go down to the bar and sit next to some random dude at the bar and go, hey buddy, how do I set boundaries? I don't know anything for that. No, you go see you go see a therapist. Yeah. They're trained for that. That's what they're great at that. The problem comes when the therapist goes, Yeah, I can help you with your trauma. But why?

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Right.

SPEAKER_03

Unless they have like EMDR. And with EMDR, it's team of NLP.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So yeah, they they've got techniques, but there are techniques that that's what we do all day long. Yeah. I don't study psychotherapy all day long, and if you if you're a psychotherapist and you took a two-week course of hypnosis, probably more than know a little more about hypnosis than you do, just like you know a hell of a lot more about psychology than I do. Right, right. Okay. Yeah, two different fields. Yeah. Really both of us really good at two different things. Right. Yeah. Some some hypnotists, you know, they get they do the 15-minute thing that the therapist has been plugging away at for 20 years. Yeah. And they think, we know everything! Oh, right, right. No, we don't. We know that we're the best for that. When the problem is in the unconscious, that's our field. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I love that. Oh so much. And then as you're talking about going to the pub with a bard, another thing popped in my head about I saw something about bartenders and their effect in the set effect. Therapist of source. Maybe not one that'll say, here's how to create boundaries or those particular nuances. But I would be curious about just the effect of someone feeling less stress. Sitting with a therapist or sitting with a a bartender, you know. I wonder.

SPEAKER_03

Well, typically you get more beer in the bar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, yeah, yeah. There is that, yeah. More beer in the bar. Alright, so thank you for taking out your time with us today. I appreciate working through that. It was really cool seeing what you do live. And I wonder, is there anything before we get to the little hypnotic gift for the listeners and viewers? Is there anything when I ask? Is there a message that you want to tell the world? Not that you have to overintellectualize it, but is there something that just bubbles up in the spur of the moment that you want the whole world to know?

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, I think I just said it. You know, when you've got a problem that it's in the unconscious, this why can't I get myself to do this thing, or how can I stop doing this thing? And you just can't get yourself to do it, and you don't know why. Okay. Yeah, that that's yeah, that's us. Come talk to us, you know, we'll set you up.

SPEAKER_05

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and it can it can be used for a lot of things that most people don't think about when they think about hypnosis. I I like working with people with ADHD, people who can't get themselves started, people who get distracted, that kind of stuff. You know, yeah, get great results with it. Trauma, of course. I I do love doing trauma, and it's so easy that it's just like, yeah, yeah, sure. Let's just take care of that. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. And then for everyone smoking and weight loss and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Confidence, you know. Yeah, we're great at that.

SPEAKER_00

Beautiful. And then for those listening, of course, we'll have a way to get in touch with you, Terrence. Uh in the description, we'll have links down there. Beautiful, beautiful links. All right. And then for those listening, um, thank you, first of all. And if you would like, if you're in a safe, comfortable place and you won't be bothered just for a small bit of time. Great. And if you are somewhere where you're driving, maybe hit pause.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. If you're watching this, you probably shouldn't be driving and watching anyhow. But thank you. Nonetheless, I appreciate it. All right, Sir Terrence, all yours.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, thank you. Thank you. All right, so what we're gonna do is a little bit of a demonstration of that meta pattern, and I'm gonna do it a little bit differently than I would one-on-one because I'm not gonna be able to get your answers and stuff like that. But what I will do is I'll guide you into a I'll guide you into the problem state. I'm gonna ask you to think about a specific thing, not the biggest problem in the world, but a specific thing that maybe you've been having a little issue with maybe doing something you wouldn't like to you'd like to not be doing, or you're not doing something you'd like to be doing, or you're feeling something that you'd like to not be feeling, or ruminating on something, you know, whatever it is, something like that. And I'm gonna guide you into that what we call the problem state, which is when you're feeling that stuff and what you feel in your body when you've when you've got that problem active. I don't want you thinking about the problem, I want you being in the problem. And that's only gonna be for a minute because then we're gonna toss it onto a television screen and disassociate from it so that you don't feel it. And then I'm gonna take you into a little trance, and then from there, I'm gonna help you find the resources inside yourself so that you can deal with that whatever it is very effectively, and then we're just gonna connect those resources up to that problem and well, make the suckagist disappear. Alright now, and this is the meta pattern of NLP and Mike Mandel hypnosis. We call that the ADAC pattern. That's great stuff. So now I'd like you to think about that problem and imagine that, and just get a sense of what it is and what it feels like when you're in that specific situation. And notice what tells you that you're in that situation. Yeah. Notice what what starts it off and then what you see when you're in that. Notice what you hear both outside and in your mind. What's that inner voice saying? What's that thing you believe about it? What do you imagine? As you imagine being there. And then notice bit notice what you feel in your body as you're in there. And you as you notice that feeling in your body and you notice what you know about it. And what do you really believe about all that? And then as you're feeling it now I want you to imagine a little television screen, a tiny little one like eight feet away from you, and just put that situation into that screen so that you can see yourself in there and see what what's going on, but make it fuzzy and grainy and black and white, and any sound can be coming out of a tinny little speaker that's kind of muffled by like a pillow. And just let the feelings all go into that screen, into that you and the screen, that you can have the feeling. Well, you just let it go. Because that's all you needed, and now in a moment, but not just yet. I'm gonna ask you to roll your eyes back in your head, and here's a little weird thing I'm gonna ask you to do. I'm gonna ask you to flutter your eyelids as you roll your eyes all the way back. You're gonna take a deep breath, flutter your eyelids, and the reason I'm gonna have you do that in a moment is because your unconscious doesn't know the difference between the way a person can go into trance, and when a person goes into trance, they start to flutter their eyelids. That happens automatically as you're going into trance, but your unconscious doesn't know the difference between whether you start to go into trance first and then flutter your eyelids as a result of the trance. Or if you flutter your eyelids and go into trance as a result of the fluttering your eyelids, it doesn't know the difference, and that's perfect. So go ahead now, take a deep breath, roll your eyes all the way back, flutter those eyelids, roll your eyes all the way back, flutter those eyelids, and then as you let it out, just close those eyes and relax even more. And now again, open your eyes, roll your eyes way back in your head, take a deep breath, let those eyelids flutter, and close your eyes and drop even deeper down. That's right. And the more you relax and the more you let go, the deeper you go, the better you feel, and the better you feel, the deeper you go. And as you sink into this deep trance now, go ahead and notice what it feels like to let go completely. And what do you notice as you're letting go? And how does relaxation go deeper? And now as you remember that problem that you used to have. I want you to if you love wood Just ask what would you like to have happen instead? And you'll ask yourself that and I'm not gonna know the answer. So you'll ask yourself and you yourself will hear the answer in your own voice. In your own mind. And as you explore what you'd like to have happen instead, how you'd like to act, how you'd like to think, how you'd like to feel. Get a sense of that and notice as you go ahead and step into that reality and feel what it's like to feel this to believe this to be able to do this or to refrain from doing that. Notice what it is that's different and how does that feel when you've got this different and as you've got this different way of being or feeling or thinking notice what you'll see that will be different. What you'll hear that's different. Notice what you'll say to yourself that's different. How you feel in your body And as you begin to feel this now Breathe it in. Breathe and notice the way you breathe. When you're doing it this way. Get a sense of how you'll hold your body differently. With these resources because you have done many different things in your life and you know how to do many things, and you have many abilities and skills as well as things that have yet to develop within you. But that are always there and always have been ready. And things that you're ready to develop now thanks to all the experiences you've had before, and your own conscious knows how to give you these abilities, these talents and skills, and the ability to do this and as you breathe it in the back of that problem on that little screen and what does this you that you are now know about that problem? And how does this you see that problem differently? And as you notice what's different and what's changing from here How can you imagine dealing with this differently? And what does that look like? And what can you do differently? And how will you find yourself doing that? And as you're doing that now And you find yourself doing that effortlessly What will you notice feels different in your body? And how do you feel different now? And as you're feeling what you're feeling seeing this new way of being. What is this experience? That you're having now. I don't know if you know, but as you imagine this experience your brain doesn't know the difference between imagining and really doing it. So it's as if you're practicing being a different way. And that's why this is so effective. Just one of the reasons. And as you experience doing it this way. And notice how is this different now? And I wonder as you take in this experience doing it differently. What does that lead you to believe differently? And how do you look at that whole situation now in a totally different fashion? And now look at that screen. See that you that used to do things that way. And now take all these things that you have now and go ahead and share them with that you in the screen. A different way of being, the different way of feeling, the understanding. Any realizations, epiphanies that have come up for you, and it may come up because your unconscious is exploring different possibilities now. Aren't you? And as you share that with this you on the screen, see how this you on the screen can behave differently. Can think differently. Can feel differently. And I wonder what's connecting in different ways. And how is this changing for you now? And now as you notice this you on the screen. Doing this totally differently. Having a totally different experience in a wonderful way. And you realize just how easy it is now. Go ahead and bring that you and the screen back into your body. Into you and bring all this experience now this change deep inside And as you let it go deep inside now. This change is yours. And it's yours to keep. So keep the change. And only as soon as your unconscious has fully taken in all these wonderful things for yourself and made all the changes that are good for you to make.

SPEAKER_00

Beautiful, Terrence. Yeah, I hope everyone enjoyed that little journey as much as I did. Well, thank you, Ron. And thank you so much for being here. And every and anyone that wants to work with Terrence again, the links will be in the description.

SPEAKER_02

Ah, fantastic.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Well, thank you very much.