Joanne Carvalho: Navigating the Gateway to Soul

In this episode of AWAKEN with Ryan DeJonghe, the conversation features Joanne Carvalho, a gifted intuitive and guide who shares her unique perspective on spiritual connection and the path to inner peace. Joanne Carvalho discusses her role as the founder of Gateway to Soul, where she focuses on helping individuals reconnect with their essence and understand the deeper messages their lives are presenting.

The discussion emphasizes that Joanne is not a hypnotist or NLP practitioner; instead, her work is centered on spiritual intuition and helping people find clarity through their own inner guidance. She shares how her journey has led her to support others in opening their own "gateways" to the soul, facilitating a deeper relationship with the self and the universe. Topics include the power of presence, the role of vulnerability in healing, and how to trust the intuitive nudges that lead us toward a more fulfilling and connected life.

Key Takeaways & Meaningful Quotes

• "I don't think of myself as doing something to people. I'm just holding the space and opening a door so they can see what’s already inside them that they might have forgotten was there."
• "The soul doesn't speak in a loud voice; it speaks in whispers, in feelings, and in those moments of quiet that we usually try to fill with noise. My job is to help people get quiet enough to finally hear it."
• "When you finally step through that gateway, you realize that all the searching you were doing on the outside was just a way to avoid looking at the immense beauty and power you’ve been carrying within you all along."

How to Connect and Work with Us

Connect with Joanne Carvalho:

Joanne offers intuitive guidance and spiritual support through Gateway to Soul, helping individuals navigate their personal journeys with clarity and grace.

Website: gatewaytosoul.com

Work with Ryan DeJonghe:

Ready to explore your own transformation through hypnosis?

Website: trancewell.help

Email: ryan@trancewell.help

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Welcome, my friends, to another episode of Awaken with Ryan the Young. And I have a very special gifted guest today. It's Joanne Carvalho. It's a Portuguese name, right? So I'm definitely Portuguese, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:17

So very good. Very good.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Welcome. So I'm so happy that you are here.

SPEAKER_04 0:22

Thank you. So lovely to be here. Thanks, Ryan.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

And how this goes about. So lately this podcast has been about hypnotism. And I had Hugh Comerford on, and we got to talking about this unique man that he ran into up in Canada. And that just sent him on a wild chase. And then any anyhow, so he said, you got to talk to this lady named Joanne because she's a unicorn. Yeah, that's very much a Hugh word. Yeah. So let's just get to it. So the way he just Hugh described it was this man could cure cancer. And for those that are listening, I just put the quotation marks, right? You know, because I want to believe. And what Hugh says is this man had maybe a hit rate of, I don't know, one and 30 or something of people. He just put his hands, and the way Hugh described it, this man just put his hands over Hughes' ears, didn't even touch him, looked him in the eyes, just said, have a nice trip. And then he was gone for 45 minutes on this wild ride, like he was on psychedelics, but there's no words used. There's no, there's just this energy. So Joanne, what what's going on? What's how's that work?

SPEAKER_04 1:49

Wow, that's a loaded question. Okay. So first of all, thanks to Hugh. Um actually, it was because of Hugh. That's how I met this, this, this healer up in in Canada, but it's because my husband decided to take an NLP course with Hugh. And Hugh was like, you guys have to meet this healer. And so my husband went, and my husband knew that uh that was something that I'd be interested in. Um so he sent me up to go and meet him and well, to to go for a workshop and to um uh go for uh uh an energy session, a session, which I'd never I'd never been to one before. But how does that work? Is your question. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Yeah, and and and as we ponder that, just a little pause in that discussion. The thing that kind of leads me down this path is in the world of hypnosis, there's this Facebook group, about 30,000, and I would say about 28,000 of them are all about the words. And then you start looking at the roots, and I then you got some of these what I'll call weirdos, they're my friends. I'm a weirdo, who kind of go back before that and look at mesmer, who did more of a like a show, and then you rewind a little bit further, and then you look at the shamans, and it's like, sure, they said words and did rituals, but there's something else there that we're missing, and so that's what I'm wondering here.

SPEAKER_04 3:17

So I love that because you know, I'm not in the hypnosis world, and I don't use words when I do my sessions. I have no words because there's no, you know, we're connected into the energy, we're connected into the cosmic consciousness, whatever you want to call it, connected into the soul. I like to work with the soul. And for that, there are no words. There's literally, I mean, we can try to explain things, but our I think our human language just doesn't quite is not able to explain things. I think you have to you have to experience it, right? So when we connect into that energy, and you can have somebody that maybe helps you to facilitate that so that you can, you know, connect into it, have an experience and and feel that energy, uh, there are no words really that are required for that. Now, that doesn't mean we can't use words, you know, there's a lot of meditations. I mean, obviously, you do hypnosis, um, you know, we're working with the mind in that regard. But when I go into the energetics of it, there's there's no words, and I'm I so you called me a unicorn, which I sometimes I'm a little uncomfortable with, but I think it's something that, you know, uh, you know, we all have our own abilities and we all have abilities, you know, we really just have to tap into those. So one of mine that just came online about six years ago was to feel the unseen, so to feel the energy. So I started uh feeling this energy inside my body. First of all, I felt my own energy when it kind of like opened and I uh woke up and it was a crazy, crazy, wild, wild, crazy ride. Uh, but I discovered that I could feel the energy in other people. So literally, you know, everybody says we're connected. Everybody says, the universe is connected, we're all connected. But I'm like, we are connected, I can feel you. I can feel your energy. You can give me a name, and I can feel their energy, I can feel my cat's energy. It comes kind of inside my body, and we we become one because we're all one anyway. And so that's the energy that you know I'm tapping into that I can feel, and there's lots of other energies that I don't I couldn't tell you. Uh it's light to me if I see the light, I see the bright light, but I don't uh I I don't even understand it all myself.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Yeah, there's a there's a lot to unpack just in that little bit. And a lot of it what's you're reminded that that thing that happened to you in your website, you're talking about being hit by lightning. Like it's that's almost like that. And to me, it was in my death experience when my heart just all of a sudden said, no. And then I went to this place where I was everywhere, nowhere at once, and then I was like, no one but everyone all at once. And like you said, it it's indescribable. Even the Bible talks about it as being peace beyond understanding, beyond comprehension, beyond words. And then it's just incredible. And you could feel like I felt in that place, I felt this energy coming from India, like I knew where it was coming from you. And and after I they revived me, I found out that my dad did a prayer chain around the world, and then it was this church and India where they congregated together. So I don't know if there's something there when people congregate their energies and focus it on a specific thing.

SPEAKER_04 6:51

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's funny you mentioned India because that lightning for me it was as the kundalini, which is part of the you know, it's part of that whole system, and it was literally you open up to that energy, and I have to say the love, the love unconditional is part of it, unconditional love where there's uh no words for that because it's like, you know, I love my husband, I love my kids, I love my cats, but it's a complete, it's on a whole different level.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Yeah, I remember in Sunday school, I I I think I was in third grade, and the Sunday school teacher said, you know, love everyone, love everyone. So at recess that Monday, I went around and said, I love you, I love you to every kid, right? And then one kid had to run and tell the teacher, he's telling me he loves me.

SPEAKER_04 7:46

But I love that. Spread the love. We need more of that in the world, right? We need more of that.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Absolutely. So what is possible with this? We talk about healing, like in hypnosis. Like, I see where we can heal certain anxieties, certain pain. And even for me, like my day job is working with blind veterans, and there's a type of blindness, the functional blindness, which your eyes work, but the brain says no. And then we can get some of that with hypnosis. And yeah, I feel that that missing element is that energy connection. And then, so what have you seen or what do you know of that's possible with energy?

SPEAKER_04 8:26

Oh wow, I've seen so many. Wow, everything. Everything, everything, everything, because everything is energy, you know, everything is energy. So wow, what is possible? I've been, you know, I've I've witnessed, I've experienced, I've been a part of inst instant healings. I've also seen the the transformation that people can go through. And when when I just use energy, again, I don't use words, but I feel the resistance in people's, you know, energy. And it all has to do with really um our our life. Like we're born, how we're brought up, the cultural conditioning, and then we we start to have these experiences in life where we start to the the energy starts to get stuck, it starts to get resist, it starts to get tight. So we we go away from a place of love into a place of fear and resistance. So the energy starts to slow down, and our energetic body just doesn't we're not in flow. You know, we we hit these walls, uh, you know, a lot around the the programming and the and right, you know, the belief systems, all of that, because we're born knowing everything, and then coming to the world and they teach us that it's all wrong, but that's right, the other way around. It's the other way around. So, you know, you know, we fast forward into you know uh adult life and you know, meaning people that are you know, they're going going for help, they get sick, first of all. Uh you know, something happens in their life, they get sick. Um, for me, uh sometimes a sickness is when it stops somebody in their tracks because there's something they need to look at in their life that maybe they need to um change, or there's a pattern they need to break, or they need to slow down. There's something, there's something there. When you look at it above the you know, the medical and the physical part, when I go into the soul level, I always look at things from a soul level because sometimes what the person wants and what the soul wants are two different things.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Oh yeah. We're gonna we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna soul and yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:42

Yeah, so when we with energy, when we start to align the soul with the physical body and we we want to anchor the soul light into the body, is when things can go a little more smoothly, but you know, that's connecting the energy or the light of that soul and that person into their body, and that creates healing as well, because healing comes in so many different forms. I mean, a lot of people want to talk about miracles and the miraculous, but I also think that they can be very, very, very small and very, very quiet, and a little change in perception, and you could be healed if you just you know change your perception, and then that that completely changes your energy. You start to shift and change your energy because the energy gets distorted when it gets blocked from you know from life, all the things that happen to us. So when we open up and we use energy, again, I don't it's not me that's doing anything, it's the energy, and sometimes I'm using the energy of the person, like your light is gonna come in and do the healing that it needs to do in your soul and your body. So, but it's to to to literally put the energy back to where it's like in its original form. So, you know, that that's that's that's where I see where the energy comes in. Because when it goes back into its original form and its original and it's balanced and it's in harmony, it's it goes back into the right place. When it's off, it's when we've had traumas or you know, something's going on in our life, or or we're sick. But energy literally can do uh everything's possible. I I've seen stuff that I don't I don't even believe that's that's happened, and it's you know, and you just have to look at it and then you have to let it go, and then you move on because you know, we're here, we're we're here to have a human experience, but there's this world out there that we you want to be aware of and know that every yeah, everything is possible.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Everything again, a lot to unpack. I wrote several things down that I want to touch upon. Just a quick question. When you see energy of people, and you mentioned this, like we're born pure, and we're born. I saw a quote in the in the movie the other day said we're born able to walk on water. We just somewhere along the lines, someone told us we can't.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

And so I'm wondering, when you see children, do you see brighter? Like are they brighter to you than when you see someone old and caught in their like energy blockages?

SPEAKER_04 13:26

That's very interesting question. Now I've worked with babies, I've worked with younger people, and they're they have extraordinary energy. It is quite amazing. I think the new babies or the younger people coming in have different energies than we do. I think they're actually born with way more, they have the potential to do to be like the world's greatest healers if they wanted to, right? And actually, I I actually did have an experience with a baby that I don't know, the baby must have been about six or eight months old. We went into a hospital and somebody had asked um to help a friend who was who was paralyzed, and you know, they they brought the baby with and you know, worked on the person. Um, just sat beside the person, put my hands on kind of on their legs, and you know, closed my eyes and did the session. And there was the baby there, and the baby was watching us do the and when we were done, uh, we took the baby because the baby was wanting to go towards the man's, put the baby on to sit on the man's kind of he had like a little table paralyzed, put the baby there. The baby reached out its hand, put its hand on the man's hand.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

It locked eyes for what seemed like forever, but and the energy was was wild. The baby was channeling, all this energy came through. Um, it was like the the a moment frozen in time. We were just the energy was amazing. And then when they the baby was completely still, completely still, hand on the man's hand, blocked eyes, and after I don't know how long it was, just kind of went back to normal, and the man started to like move. He lifted his leg up, and he was paralyzed, right? And he started to leg up, and I was like, Wow, this you know, this baby just did a healing, and the baby watched how we did it, and then the baby just copied and did it because the baby was just natural, and because babies come from yeah, they're so close to the other side, right? They just don't right.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

It's funny you telling that story. It's this is one of those serendipitous moments, right here, where I'm getting the goosebumps, and like it's just coming for for real because maybe a week or two I wrote someone saying, I would love to do a program where we take babies to hospice. I think there's there's just something there. I don't know the words for it, but I've sat with enough people in hospice to know. I've done Reiki before, I just know there's something there, and then that's cool bringing a baby into that like healing and programming and or unprogramming from the world's programming.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

Yeah, because it's so normal and natural for them, right? And a lot of young people that I've connected with, I can see this their light, and I see this. I do it when I close my eyes, and the light is so amazing, but it's pretty amazing in everybody I see. That's the thing. And I think people they just can't see it themselves, they get so blocked. But these young people certainly have a different, I think they're a higher vibration. I think they're coming in with higher vibrations. Um, the the energy is quite different, and they have the potential to do anything, they're here to change the world, right? So I could just help them with ground in and help them to stabilize their energy.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Yes, that would be amazing.

SPEAKER_04 16:57

Yes, you know, um, because I have helped young people and I start to move help them to move their energy into ground, and suddenly they're like, Oh my god, I can I can feel things, you know. I'm like, Yes, of course you can. I know you can feel things because you have that that type of energy, but they have incredible energy, and yeah, babies, babies and animals and hospices would be just you know incredible, but babies are yeah, they're coming in quite incredible.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah, interesting. And now in looking at your website, I see that you have a master's in biology, right? Yes, so here's some of my theory. Like, where do this we talk about energy? Where is the role of the mitochondria in all this? Like, have you given that some thought?

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Have wow, you see, and there's a synchronicity. I saw something just yesterday with the cells in the mitochondria. I was yeah, I was reading something about I I don't um I think what I would say to that is it's like the the the system with the very very small is the same as the very very big. Yeah so it doesn't matter if it's a galaxy or if it's the mitochondria in the cells or we're going you know into the into the atoms. It's it's just it it's all the same, whether it's very, very big or very, very small. So you know, mitochondria, sure, we're getting into uh physical things and and biological things, but I don't know if that's something uh where it has to do with the the energy. I don't know, I don't know what you're referring to there, but but for me, yeah, that's getting very specific for me.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

I'm I'm like in the channel you're like the uh the macro in the light, you're like the macro light energy versus like bringing out the the microscope and on the micro level, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

But I do know that when I did have my awakening and they took me on um so many journeys, past lives, future lives, you you name it. They took me all over the place. The one place they did take me was they took me into the the womb when I was a fetus, and then they took me out into the universe, and then it sounds like I was on drugs, but I wasn't. They took me out into the universe and they took me back into like a single cell, into the cell in my body. And at that point, I was like, the whole universe is like in every single cell in your body.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Right. And yeah, and the mitochondria in every single cell. And the thing that makes me think about it is you talk about the past lives, and it seems like, especially when you look at the the Dutch famine study, for instance, where the expression where they downregulated, up regulated, in this case, they downregulated at an epigenetic level, so that way the offspring had these influences that their parents did. No one told them that this was a starving environment. They actually grew up and are born into an abundance, and yet there something in them told them that there was a scarcity, and so all those kids had over overweight, diabetes, etc. And it's just interesting.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

Like there's that's the generational stuff, right? That's passed down, so definitely, and that's the part that's um you know, epigenetics, yeah, all of that. That's very, very it's fascinating. It's it's really and and I think we can uh definitely with energy, and when you start to work on yourself, open up your own energy and really start to connect with that and be aware of your own energy, is when you can start to break those patterns. You can start you literally can change yourself on a cellular, cellular level. Yes, you have a cellular transformation because I know I went through it. I it was literally physically, and in my DNA, it it changed me. And I I know it changed me. So it it all it's all connected, they're very, very small, but you know, it it will change you on the inside, and then of course that ripples out um on the outside, not only in your physical body, but then also in your experiences and in life as well. So, but yeah, that's the um definitely the definitely the generational trauma that comes down and is passed down uh for a lot of people, but we can break that. We can certainly break that.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Yes, we can break that. And I I don't want to disregard what you just said, because that's important. The the ability to break that generational stuff, and and it leads me to think about these bodies that we wear. Like, what is this this flesh and bone? Like, why does it age? Why do people die? What's the you know, why do we have this human experience as these spiritual energetic beings?

SPEAKER_04 21:55

Well, I think because We're just these spiritual beings that we are. We're just uh as corny as it sounds, we're just love and light. So all of us are just love and light. And if we just stayed in that love and light state, we wouldn't really grow or be able to, you know, like it's being like being um a white energy in a white room. Like, what are you gonna like kind of boring? You know everything, you know, you know, you don't have any experience. So I think when the soul comes here into the human form, into the the human body, the soul is here to learn, to grow, to evolve, and also really to experience emotions and to master those emotions. I I do believe we're here to master those emotions. So the more intense the emotion, the better. The soul loves, loves, loves intense emotion. But that's when people get stuck, they think it's a bad thing, and it's not it's not a negative thing. If you just look at it as an experience and go, even though you go through a rough time, doesn't mean it's easy, but looking at experiencing that really intense tough emotion, processing it, transform it to light. Yes, your soul, give it to your soul, and your soul grows and it goes into the oneness, and so everybody goes, you know.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

For those that are just listening, thank you again for being here. I just want to point out to you that as Joanne's talking, she's using these huge motions with her hands. It's as if she's the Tai Chi master, like she's drawing a sun over her body and moving that energy around with every word that she does, and she's feeling the energy as she's speaking. So that's just a little description. Plus, like I said, I work at the blind search, so I'm used to describing things for people.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

I know I'm very I do use my hands a lot, and I feel I I feel a lot, right? So sometimes you'll see me moving or I can tell you're feeling it.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Like as I imitate you, I'm feeling it myself. Like I could tell you're feeling it versus normal hand motions are in here that chest level. Yours are embodying the whole energy field of who you are, like outward and upward. So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Because also with this light, let me tell you because you we were talking about the soul and the you know, why do we come here? Our soul is again much bigger than these human bodies, right? Whereas the bodies are so very, very dense, very, very, very, very dense, dense energy. So we want to bring as much of that soul and as much of that light into our bodies as possible. I'm all about bringing heaven to earth. So lots of people want all the six minutes up here, which is minimum. Yeah, I want to bring it here.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

That's another thing I saw on your website was Mary Magdalene. So yeah, we could we can we can talk about that in a moment too. Yeah, that's because she, you know, I have beef with the church. I used to be a pastor, and I'm so mad that Paul got the job. It belonged to Mary. I think Mary should have got been the replacement for Judas. But still the church.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

I mean, they even had a chance with Barnabas in the book of Acts. Like everyone loved Barnabas, he was the healer, and yet Paul said, No, no, no, we gotta have some law on this. We gotta, we gotta tell you what you can and can't do still. And Jesus is like, at least Mary gets it. You know, he looks at his dumb disciples who are like, oh, we're gonna inherit this kingdom, this, you know, we're has swords and thrones, and it's like Mary's like, you guys are idiots, you know, just heaven's right here, you know.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

It's exactly, and it's both Jesus, because it's funny, we get into, you know, I was brought up Catholic, and that was the missing piece. It was like, where's the, you know, you have it's very with it's all the men, right? It's right. Right. It's like where's and you know, where's where's the where's the woman? But it was just literally in the last six years that that she came up, but not only her, but also Jesus. I've had my own experiences with Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Yeah, yeah. I thought I was going a little crazy, but but they too that it's when the teachings are the teachings are it's not their teaching, you know. It was kind of like taken over and it was controlled.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

All that they Jesus taught in Mary Magdalene is is that love, of course, Jesus is all about unconditional love. And then Mary Magdalene, the two of them together, is about you have the kingdom of God within, right? So you don't need anybody to to tell you or to show you the way it's it's inside of you, right? And you just have to access that. So yeah, it's it's pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Now you talked about accessing it. And I do want to touch upon accessing it. I'm writing it down so I don't forget, because this is all so exciting for me. And again, thank you for being here and like kind of like geeking out and like feeling this positive vibration here. And it's really cool to be like validated in the space. Especially in like the hypnotist community, it shocks me. I'll type in, how do you bring the conscious mind into the subconscious space? You know, these are words that hypnotists use, and then they get in a big argument about oh, there's no such thing as a subconscious. Fine, whatever you want to call it, I don't care. But you know, just like let me play a little bit because I feel it when I play.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

And you talk about these experiences, like the soul is here to feel emotion. And you're right, because when I'm in that place of enlightenment and meditation, sometimes I get a little bored. And so I have to watch an emotional movie. And the more emotional, the better, because then I feel something besides just this bliss of lying in the hammock and just being in perfect Shengerla in my mind, and it's pure meditation. I'm like, okay, well, this is a dull day. It's it's been pure enlightened love. It's kind of dull right now. So show me something emotional.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Well, it's funny you said that because I mean, right before we started, I was feeling you. I was feeling your energy. It just came on. I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

I'm curious what you're feeling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:31

So you've said something, and and and it's very interesting what you said because it's it really it's kind of at the the core of what I know and what I feel and what I try to tell people. So when you do lots of meditation and you're in that state, your energy is just going up and out of your body, and it's all up here. And it's not balanced at all. It's just all here. And then, you know, with a lot of people are here, a lot of people in their heads, a lot of people go up. I find the energy goes out of the body. Meditations, even music. Uh, that high vibration music sends people out of their bodies.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Yeah, it's funny because you're feeling me beforehand. I was playing guitar beforehand.

SPEAKER_04 29:12

I like guitar, I like guitar's very groundy. You know, those the the uh 932 hertz.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

And the binaural beats, and yeah, right, but that takes you out of your body, and which is not very stable for the energy. Um, then you get emotional, and the energy stays here in the emotional tree and here, and it's like this funnel that just goes here, so it's not embodied. I like to work way down further down, yeah. So in order to balance the mind, in order to balance the emotions, we also have to ground and balance and bring bring that energy into the body so that you can integrate it and actually use it. So many people are like, Oh, I want to be able to do what you do, or I wish I could see past lives, or I wish I could, you know, have more awareness, and but they spending all their days in their heads analyzing or out of their bodies meditating there, and they're not integrating and actually pulling the energy into the body, and that's that's where you use it. That's that's where the transformation can happen, that's where you open your channel more and put more of your light into the body. So it's um, and yeah, we definitely need those emotions, but many people stay in the emotion. And here's where uh, you know, some of the teaching that I got from the healer that I worked with too is like more than two minutes in that emotion, and it's gonna stick in your energy. And you start holding it, and the energy gets very dense, and you're not in flow. So uh, you know, and then you access more light and you do more meditation and you bring more light in the body, it starts feeding the head. Sometimes you can get dizzy, you can get lightheaded, and then you feed your emotion, and it feeds more emotion. You're not feeding your entire channel and bringing the light in. So that's what that's where the grounding comes in.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

But yeah, I gotta admit, I'm a little scared. And when you say that, because I like being you you you're like this light just floating above the body. Like I love that space, man. Like when I died and I had that death experience, it was like I say, Schenger La is pure bliss. I just love hanging out in it. And when you say I gotta bring it down, I mean, and the part in my something within me says, I don't wanna, I don't want to stay up here in this light and love. And I thought this body is dirty and gross, it's a vessel, it hasn't been cleaned in years, it just got stains on it from overuse and exhaustion, and the light doesn't want to go there. So, how do we like how do we satisfy the soul? Like the soul wants to float. How do we satisfy allowing it and grounding it into the body?

SPEAKER_04 32:11

So by wanting to float, you're escaping. It's escapism. Yeah, I think that's escapism, and I think it's like you don't want to deal with your the human parts. That's that's why we're here. So, but when, and here's the the I think the misconception, people think that when we go down and we ground that we're gonna shut down this part up here. My experience, it opens it even more, and and in a much more stable way, and it's more stable, it doesn't hurt your body. Many people that channel a lot and meditate a lot uh sometimes can get physical symptoms. It's actually can get unhealthy um for the physical body. In in my experience, some of the people that I've that I've worked with, right? So um, in order to actually open the channel more in a much more stable way, I see the light. I close my eyes. I see I'm in that it's incredible, but I'm also grounding at the same time. I am pulling that, I want that light, and I'm pulling it all the way down into my physical body, and I'm opening up the base because uh well, I call it the base, it's the first and second chakra. Um, and when you open that up, yes, it's gonna shine a light on all those sticky, dark, stained parts that most people don't want to deal with. But when you shine a light on it, it shows you where there's resistance in your energy, where there's resistance in your body, it shows you what you need to transform, it shows you what you need to work on. And it brings you at first, it's it's it's it's fear, it's fear back. You know, you get into the fear, people are afraid of that, but once you can move through that, you kind of can turn your pain into your power, and it actually is the source of your power. Uh it literally is your life force energy is below the belly button. Like that's where I mean, that's where we were conceived, that's where we were created, that's where we're born, that's the divine mother energy, that's creation, that is life, and everybody wants to go up and out of their bodies. And I'm like, wait a minute, the most important place is in the body. And I mean, you want to talk about the holy grail, people go looking for that. That's where it is. Yeah, most people will not go there, and it's it's it's interesting, but you know, I I do a very uh I do like a practical grounding uh technique that helps people to bring awareness down into the the base and helps them to try to build the energy there because most people the it's shut down, the furnace is is is is not all like it's shut down, right? Like a sacred fire or your life force energy. And so if you don't bring awareness there and you don't build the energy there, it shut down all the energies up here. It gets too emotional. People love, but they stay too long in their emotion and they don't process the emotions, right? And then they stay too much in their heads, and then they still want all of this, but there's so much more, there's so much more that you could access, you can get more clarity, more information. You start to grow and you start to access more of your your your essence and your soul because you're bringing more of your light into your physical body and aligning the two. So you're harmonizing, you know, you're coming into you're you're making yourself whole. If you want to make yourself whole, uh you gotta you've gotta deal with all the parts.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

That makes a lot of sense. And again, I'm split on two different things. One, you talked about you had this grounding method, and then two, I had this theory about, and it's not mine alone, but the superconscious, the conscious, and the subconscious. And I wonder like that the subconscious might be down below, like you're referring to, and that superconscious might be that light. So we we ground into that subconscious and we allow that superconscious in, and we have more access to the superconscious by bringing it down into the subconscious. Is that vibe with you?

SPEAKER_04 36:30

When you talk about the it's funny, because my husband would be like, you know, when you're talking about hypnosis and yeah, we talk about sometimes we're talking about different things, like when we different words.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

I feel it might be the same thing. We could say the light is this what I would call the superconscious, the light. Yes, that's and then the subconscious is the boiler.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

And it's like you gotta bring in the light to the boiler to get the fire to go.

SPEAKER_04 37:03

Yeah, yeah. Bring the light, yes, you gotta bring that light in. You've got to ignite it. You know, you have to ignite. That's a lot, a lot of times when people have awakening, sometimes they get uh, you know, whether it's an initiation or sometimes it's because the light is coming in and it's hitting, it's waking something up that has been sleeping for a very long time.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:23

It's it's it's sleeping. Uh, people are like, oh, I don't want to go there because I'm very comfortable in my pain and I'm okay with my life here, and everything's fine. Um crisis, you know, and then it's like, oh wait, you know, there's there's something I need to do here. But yes, we do want to bring that sure, that super conscious, that the light, the the light of all, whether it's God, the universe, source, and we, you know, the soul, the soul light, which is part of everything, right? And if you want to bring that and connect it, because I think all pain and suffering comes from a disconnection from your own light. You're you're not connected to it, and the connection between spirit, soul, and light, and the body is at the root chakra. That's where the physics, that's where you physically connect in the spirit.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

It's I feel that it's a prism, like you're bringing the light into the prism to be able to shine all that beauty and colors.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Now you mentioned spirit and you mentioned soul a lot. And what was the other spirit, soul, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_04 38:32

Light, God, consciousness, light, yeah, consciousness, God, the universe, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Yeah. I don't know, there's so many names. So many names, yeah. So to you, what is soul? Because there's like the universal soul, like you and I are connected because you and I are one. Yes, and yet it feels like we're two different people. So are we two different souls?

SPEAKER_04 38:58

So we have think of it like I would say, think of it like the sun is the source, and the sun has rays that come off the sun. So, and each of us is an individual ray. Yeah, okay, but we're all connected, and yet we're all having different experiences, and we have different yeah, it very much comes down to also vibration and frequency. That's it's very much, you know, uh, and it depends on the experiences you're having, um, and the lessons that you're learning. We have different, you know, vibrations that that that um that we are, but ultimately we all go back to the one source, which is yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

Okay, that that chives. Now, what about spirit? What's spirit?

SPEAKER_04 39:42

Spirit would be that part of us that is uh is like the soul is coming in to have the individual experience, yeah. But the thing is, our soul can actually split and be in multiple bodies, even here on Earth and the planet at the same time. So there's there's so much that can happen, but then the spirit is that part of us that's all parts of our soul together, almost like our higher self. You know, there's different levels of that. So, you know, we have uh the soul that's here, that's that's learning and growing and evolving, but the spirit is, and I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Sometimes it's tomato tomato, it's like yeah, I can't even I have to say, Yeah, it's like it interweaves, it's and like you said at the very beginning, it's hard to describe these these things which are felt versus they're not, and I think that's a lot of what psychology is, it's the mind trying to interpret what emotion is. Like emotion is a biochemical thing, and then the mind is like has this neuroses of oh, is that depression or is it sadness? You know, trying to stick a label to these things that really don't have labels.

SPEAKER_04 40:52

Exactly. So we try to label them and we try to give names to them, but I think this because sometimes people interchange soul. I talk about the soul a lot, but then there are systems where that says that this then you have your higher self, then you have the spirit, which is like it knows everything. It literally is that in divine intelligence that comes in. That if you connect to that and you follow that, it you you can do no wrong, nothing wrong will and it doesn't mean bad will happen to you, it means you're gonna do it's gonna be right for you and whatever experience you have on this on this earth, which is why I'm trying to get people to connect with with that, right? And when you connect with it and you follow that, but for me it lands in my in my base, like I lands in the base, and when I feel it there, it's an expansion, it means I'm on the right track, I'm on the right road. If it comes in the emotion, oh my god, I get pain pain. Yeah, it's the energy, and it's almost worse than physical pain. When I feel people's pain, pain energetically, it's it's it's a it's worse than physical pain. It's crazy. So dense and very, very dense and very painful because the the soul or the the soul is not in flow, and the soul is not connected fully into the body. So when it's not in flow, it's stuck and it's painful. But when you open up the base and your ground, right, you keep your energy in flow, and it's so much smoother and it's easier on the body. Interesting on the soul.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

Yeah, I'm just sitting with a moment of that realization of being up here all the time, floaty in my Ryan verse, you know, like it's just a just a chill spot, and yeah, part of me doesn't want to, and I'll call this part down below the laundry, right? I'll call it the laundry. Sometimes Ryan doesn't want to do the laundry, he just wants to float. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

But to me, it's the most important part, and that that part where people uh like you said, you don't want to do the laundry, but if you want more, if you want to access more, if you want to connect more with your soul, if you want more of that experience that you had when you connected to the all, you have to open that down because for you it feels very tight. It's it's right tight. So um, you need to open up that base more and get the energy moving there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

What's the what's the essence of opening up that base energy? I know you have a course in it, and then I don't want to take a course, I want it now.

SPEAKER_04 43:43

Not even a course, like okay, go down, go to the base of your spine. Just bring your awareness to the base of your spine. Okay, it's the first thing I do with people. I'm like, I see it because I can feel it. So we go to the base of the spine. So we're not in our heads, we're not in the emotions. Yeah, we're literally moving the energy to the base of the spine. And we're pulling, and for me, I feel the channel of light in the spine.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:05

So, and this is something that is not. I didn't make this up, like I it's not new, I it's not my thing, it's very ancient, it's it's across the board in in in in a lot of ancient cultures. So we go to the base of the spine. I mean, traditional Chinese medicine, you know, has the Ming Min doorway back there, and that's like it's it's it there's so much there. We've got the base of the spine, we've got the coiled energy that's sleeping there that nobody, you know, uh that we can access. We have the base of the nervous system down there. So if you want your nervous system to be in a calm state, you need to make sure everything's talking to each other smoothly. So we bring our awareness to the base of the spine, it starts to move the energy down, you know, and we and it starts to like light up the energy, starts to move. You it starts to kind of uh you know, there's lots of cobwebs down there in people. I tell people there's cobwebs, we we need to bring the light down there. I also bring people into the perineum, which is a really amazing place to pull that energy down. It's right at the root. So sometimes you can squeeze that muscle, or you can just think about it, or think about a heat. Sometimes you feel it tingling, but we're connecting the base of the spine down into the perineum.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

And like now, these are physical things, but it's also energetically pulling that energy down. And we do we go into the perineum. I'm just I'm just giving you kind of the shorter version of it, and then we kind of connect that energy. We go into below the belly button, kind of in the if you had ovaries where the ovaries would be. So I tell that to men and women, is the ovaries, yeah, energetic ovaries, and we start. You can even put your hands there, you know, you put your thumbs kind of you put your hands a little triangle, put your thumbs over where the ovaries would be, and we start activating the energy there. And this is a very important place, an important spot. Lots of people will will feel sometimes resistance comes up because they're like, I don't want to. Yeah, yeah. But we start to activate that energy there. Um, you know, and we're pulling this, and and usually what happens is the channel starts to open more, and more of the light comes down the channel, and it starts to come all the way down, and it starts to fill up these areas that we we we normally don't go to. And then I have people kind of open up out to the hips so that we're filling up the entire pelvic bowl with with light. Or some people might think of it as a fire, you know, sometimes it's a fire or a furnace or it's light, but you know, you can visualize it if you want to, if you want to feel it, um, you might feel it. But I feel so much heat when I do that. It is because my energy is open there. It's it's for me, it's like it is fire. Heat. And then what starts to happen because we're bringing our focus down there, the light starts to come in when the ball starts to, you know, we're activating that energy. Sure, there's lots of stuck parts in there that need to be moved and healed and come out, but when we're grounding, then the energy kind of starts to run down the legs automatically. You don't even have to think about that, and then it automatically runs down the legs, down the feet, and into the earth. So, but all we're doing is focusing on that lower part of the body, and we're bringing and you do, I can feel you doing it.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Yeah, yeah. I'm picturing like a big chalice there full of lava, and it's like overflowing down my legs, like just coming up, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

So that's the really simple way to start this process of starting to open and starting to connect with that part of your energy system, which is uh your life force. It's it's it's like what do they call it? The the the elixir right, right, the sea of dreams. It's like the you know, the holy grail. I mean, it's it's it's all of those things. And if that's not running, if you don't have the the qi or the life force energy or the light in there, the rest of the system's not gonna be running properly. So you can go up in your head and up in the crown and up and out of your body, but it's you need to, and then you're gonna get tired. You're gonna get tired, you're gonna have fatigue, you're gonna have all because you're gonna start pulling energy from outside of you, whereas you want that energy pulling the energy from life force energy, not from stuff outside of you.

SPEAKER_03 48:53

Right.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

You have the power, so it's actually I feel my legs all tingly. I don't know if you can feel that, but but um, this is your power, and you don't have to go outside to find your power, and you can use that power for transformation, you can use that power for healing, and it brings you into the present moment, it brings you into the here, it brings you into the now, and we're here to bring heaven to earth, right? So we're gonna bring that light in the body, and you should be working on this 24-7. That's what I tell people, and they're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, no, you should be, you should be when I wake up, I'm grounding. When I'm driving, I'm just kind of pulling the energy down. You know, that's that's the surface part of it, that's the easy mechanical part. Then when it starts opening and light is coming and things are coming up, then we're gonna go deeper and deeper and deeper. And when you go deeper, you go higher. And you're bringing more light into your body, and you access more light, and you bring more of your soul light down into your body, so you don't have to go up and out of your body, you can have that same experience, but even more and better in your body as well, while still accessing the other side or everything, you know. It's it's it's incredible, it's incredible. I I can't even and and I it's hard to uh not a lot of people teach. I don't see a lot of people doing that or teach there. Are those that do and do understand it, and it's so important. And what I feel in energy, what I felt in myself, and what I felt in others, and when I work with others and do healing, this is it's so important. And I I can it's hard for me to like I want to tell everybody, and I want to tell everybody how amazing it is and how important it is, but the person has to be ready. And and and I think the more you do it, the more you'll understand, the deeper you'll go. And when you start to feel it, and you start to realize, wait, there's something, there's something here, right? So because I can feel your energy responding, and you're like, you know, I still feel lots up here. Like you you have some work to do. You got some.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

My ego says, damn it, I've been doing work. What do you think? I got work to do. I've done all the work. My childhood traumas don't like they don't penetrate me anymore. I feel like, like, and yet me gets agitated. Uh I don't want to work.

SPEAKER_04 51:30

I would say the work is never done because I say we never stop learning um and we're always gonna be working. I mean, we're not we're not Jesus, we haven't reached the point where we've done everything and we can just wanna be.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

He said D he said these works and more, right?

SPEAKER_04 51:47

So I want to be that, but you gotta open. You gotta open, you gotta open.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

So, how soon if I keep doing this, feeling my chalice and letting the lava flow over my legs, when can I walk on water? How soon can I can walk on water?

SPEAKER_04 52:06

So when you want something too much, you're not it's not gonna happen. I found that and then that's funny. You've got to surrender.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

That's funny because in the last like month or so, I've been like thinking about so three months ago, I was all about smart goals and work, work, work, work, and achieve your dreams, and that's how you fulfill your affirmations. And then lately I'm like more playful and curious about it. Like I set an attention, I feel as if it were happening. I'd be oh, that's cool. And it's for instance, let's just say someone said you can manifest a five-dollar bill. I'm like, that'd be cool. I don't feel like I have the belief that I can manifest a million dollars just showing up on the ground. It's no, I feel like the authorities were after me. So I said, Well, that'd be cool. And you know, I just I said, Oh, that'd be, you know, I put myself in that place where I felt like, oh, how cool it'd be. And I just let it go. And then those waves of doubt came in, and sometimes waves of forgetting. And then before I knew it, there was money on the ground in a place that there's never money on the ground. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. So then, like, okay, so how do I change that dollar real into a million? Like, okay, so I'm sitting here putting the lava in my chalice and no million. And it's that's it's that letting go.

SPEAKER_04 53:30

Yes, and here's the thing when you start to open, when you start to access your soul light more and you can you're more connected, not out there, but in here, your value system starts to change. And it's very different from the human that my my currency is light and it's priceless to me. So when I access that light and I see that light and I feel that light and I feel it in my body, it's worth more than a million dollars to me. Like the system changes. So, but that doesn't mean that when you're when you're fully connected into that, that then then is gonna ripple out into the world, and then things can start to to happen. You know, that doesn't mean you're not gonna get the million dollars, but if you just focus on a million dollars, that's not what this is about. This is about knowing myself. The hardest thing we're gonna do on this plan on earth, on this planet, in in each of our lifetimes is right, you gotta find yourself, you have to figure out who you are without the labels, without like, oh, this is my career and this is what I do, or I'm a I'm a daughter, or I'm a wife, or whatever, whatever those things are. You have to start to you know peel all those layers back. And the more that you do this, the more you're gonna access that part of you that is has nothing to do with you know, the the the it's it's like the physical world, although you did have that near-death experience, but it's like you have to die, but completely die, but then you you come back a different person, but you're not a different person, it's the person who you were always supposed to be, right? Talking about the babies coming, it's like that that's who you were. That and yeah, here to have fun, fun, fun, fun. I I think people get way too spiritual and they get way too serious. Yeah, my God. I I love to have fun. And listen, I have so much fun with with my guides and my synchronicities and my signs, and I will constantly get signs like it used to happen on a long, a bigger take longer amount of time, but now it's daily. I'll see something, then it happens, connect with something, and then it happens, and it's like constant, constant, constant. So when you're in tune and when you're in flow, these things happen, and they can you can have a lot of fun with it too. So amen.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Yeah, I think that's part of it as you're talking about the fun. I want to go back to that that value of million versus like whatever. I I I'm wrote that down so we'll go back to it. And you mentioned I have a lot of work to do, and yet I think that's what's resistant because the work is that strife, that human strife versus when you when you say work, if we look at it as a playfully curious way, that work that we have to do isn't really work, it's fun. It's like in a game. Does that sound about right?

SPEAKER_04 56:31

You can still do that. You can make it, I mean, some of the stuff we have to work on is deep. It's very, very deep stuff that has to come up to the light that we have to look at and we have to transform into the light. And some of it is is not fun. So, but if if you do come at it with a sense of humor and a playfulness, then it will make it easier, you know, for you to look at that, look at that part of you, and if there, if there's anything that needs to be, you know, needs to be released, needs to be uh transformed. And but to do it all with a sense of humor. I mean, I it's funny because sometimes people are around people that are dying and they're like, oh, we can't we can't be funny, you've got to be sick. Like, no, I mean we can make jokes, you can be funny, right? You know, and then people get all upset. It's like, well, what what do you mean? You you know, it's you have to, and when you do that, when you look at something playfully and you bring in a sense of humor, you're changing your vibration. So because there's those heavier vibrations, which are are lower vibrations, and I think that's the thing when people think of down in the base, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

It's like you're reading my mind because you're talking about that lower vibration. I don't want to lower my vibration, I want to stay up here in the high vibration.

SPEAKER_04 57:48

Yeah, but that's not gonna lower your vibration, so it's it's you know, it's gonna bring up all the stuff that is lower vibration that you're holding on to that might be sticky and heavy. So um, but it's not a lower vibration to connect in with the with the base, it's the opposite, right? It's the holy grail, the opposite of that. So it's it's different. We're not talking about the heavy emotional stuff or the heavy trauma and that and that, you know, which can be stored there, which creates the blockages, it shuts it down. So we have to kind of like break open the dam so that the light can move and you can be in flow. And when we are in flow, that's when it's so easy to move through life. I mean, that's when you're in the moment, that's when you take the next step, that's when something bad happens, so-called bad, it's just an experience that you can handle it because you're solid, you're stable in your own energy, you're in flow. If you're stuck and your energy is not in in flow and you have heavy parts or your energy is out of your body, something happens, it's gonna knock you down faster than it. It's it's gonna be much harder to come back to center and much harder to come back to yourself to make you know to make those decisions that you need to make to have a clear mind, um, and not be too emotional. I do say that the more emotional you are, the more it means you're not grounded.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

It means you're not grounded.

SPEAKER_04 59:14

So feel your emotion for two minutes, yeah, ground it, transform it, and get rid of it and come back, you know, come back to your stable normal self. So people that are emotional all the time are just they're they're just they're just not grounded at all. And then they lose their light. Right. The light and they don't again, they don't integrate it and pull it down into the body. So but it's there's so many layers to it.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Yeah, I love it. And I'm touching on that part where you say once you've made that connection, that energy connection, you've brought the light down and you feel your values start to shift. And for me, like I feel that value shift from being the guy on the yacht to I just want to see people healed. And then so how do I and the thing that pops up to me right now is when you're a healer, not everyone gets healed. And sometimes it's even within our own family. It's like you see strangers and you see these miracles, and sometimes those within your own family are the ones, and it's like it's a taunting almost like I thought I did, I thought I brought the energy in. I thought I did everything right as the healer, even though it's not really us, it's just us allowing that moment. And then why aren't those people healed?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:48

Because everybody's on their own journey, and that's something you have to accept. That we cannot a person can only be healed when if they want to, you know. Um, yes, there's divine intervention that comes in for some people, because some people um are like, whatever, I don't believe in anything, and you know, I'm gonna die, blah, blah, blah. And sometimes people are healed, people go, Well, how come that is? But it's it comes down to the soul again for me. It comes down to the soul and what that soul wants to experience. And we have to have no expectations with right. So I will work with there's people, there's lots of people I could could work with, and that know what I do, and it's like that they're not coming to me. And I'm just like, okay, well, that they that's okay. So if somebody wants to experience that, if the soul wants to experience that, then it'll happen, you know. Um, this there's always that well, I I mean, I think I think maybe I'm one of the few people that think that we free will is kind of a funny thing. We think we've got free will, but I think it's choices that we have.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:57

But choices, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:59

Soul that's running the show. So if you don't make the choice that your soul wants you to make, it's gonna the soul's gonna start kind of like moving you in a direction to try and bring you into the the place where you're supposed to be until finally you may actually end up getting sick because you're not you're not doing the right thing. So on a soul level, I'm not I wouldn't, you know, I'm not making judgments on people or blaming people and telling you what they're creating all of this.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

Yeah, and this goes way back, even like Paul. We go back to that guy I don't like Paul, and he talks about how he wants to do good and can't, you know, there's another part of him that doesn't like and you mentioned it before, and I circled it from very beginning of our conversation. That soul person might want to do have conflicting values. So that that person, what is that? Like the soul is in us and alive and can be all knowing. What is that person that you refer to that wants to do something else? That's the ego, the ego, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:58

That's the mind, that's when the mind comes in, but that's not your higher self. That's the that's the mind, and that's the one that is based out of fear and control, the power has nothing to do with love. If anything is coming from that place, it is not coming from the soul, it's not coming from the light, it's coming from the outside. And so anything that's fear-based, right? So I really want to do that, but but but but and then all the excuses come. Well, that's the ego mind coming in. That's that's that's the the that's not the soul. The more that you align your energy, the more that you're ground and you open up that base, the more that you will connect to the part, the voice, the higher self, the soul that whispers to you, that talks to you, that brings you those signs, that is actually all based out of love. And you like literally run towards whatever it tells you to do because it feels so good and so loving, and you know it's the right thing for you to do when you're aligned. When you're not aligned, you know, oh goodness, that's that's the the ego, and then we start getting into we, you know, there's light and there's dark. So we got dark energies, then influence and bring you down the wrong road, those lower vibrations, lower vibration emotions, and then and again, that's when you completely become disconnected from your light, and that makes it easier for that sort of whether it's the mind, um, the ego to influence you in a negative, in a negative way. So in alignment with who what you're supposed to do and what your soul is meant to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

So on a metaphorical level, let's say I want to take my my family to Disney, right? Is that an ego thing, or is a soul saying, Yeah, I want to go have fun?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:53

Like well, that's you're allowed to go have fun, right? Like we're here, right? Those experiences, right? I mean, it's like when you have enlightenment, what do they say? Uh chop wood and carry water. You still we we're still gonna have I'm just so normal. Like my cat's right here, I'm gonna go change here, I'm gonna do all those normal things. I'm gonna take trips, you know. I want to take my yeah, taking trips with the family, I'm going on bike rides, yeah, TV. That's all normal, normal stuff, but it's all part of being human and living and life. But there's that a deeper sense of a deeper calling inside of you, like you were saying, like, okay, we just want to help people, right? And I think the way to help people and you want to say heal is by doing that for yourself. And that ripples out to the people around you. I mean, when when I see the transformation that I've been through, I'm like, well, I I I can only go for my experience and what I've experienced, but people have seen me change. They're like, oh my God, you're having so much fun. This is amazing. You can feel stuff and you're you're laughing and you're doing all of this. So I'm just So that in itself can ripple out and show people, oh wait, there might be something there. Can I have what are you doing? Can you show me something? You know, can you can you you know how does that work? Right. So that thing inside of us that wants to I we're light workers, right? That's what I call workers. Because when you connect to the light and you feel it, you want everybody else to feel it and you want them all to connect with it to have that experience and to not look at even it's like people look they complain so much. Oh my goodness, they complain about everything, right? And I'm like, don't complain so much. I mean, you know, um you gotta turn change that perspective. You just it's an experience, you know, and they keep themselves slow and they keep themselves heavy, yeah. They keep themselves out of the light, and then they wonder why everything's going wrong in their lives, and and they're not healing, whether it's mind, body, or soul, whatever needs to be to be healed, because they're just complaining, complain, complain. And it's like you need to change, and you need to change your perspective, and you need to look at things a little. I try to tell people just look at some a tiny spark, look at look at look at something a little bit differently because when you change, it's like a small change can have such huge, huge uh you know, it can change you in the ripple effect.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:22

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:22

So a boat that's you change the course of a boat or a plane, yeah, very slightly, and it can go way off.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:31

Yeah, yeah. And the Bible talks about the the bit in the horse's mouth. You know, it can move an entire chariot.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:39

Exactly. Yeah, right. So one time I was flying a Cessna. Well, I got to fly a Cessna. I was like in my biology days, but we were up in a little Cessna, and the pilot was like, Can you just take the the wheel? You know, I gotta write in the logbook, and I was like, Oh my god, yikes, yeah, and I tightened up and he was like, Whoa, let me take that back. I literally went up a thousand feet. He's like, you know, planes going this way, we have to be on a different I could have we could have crashed, you know, but it's that kind of thing. So when you make catch yourself complaining, you know, catch it and stop yourself and go, Oh, wait, oh wait, let me just change myself a little. And when you open up the base, you start to become more aware of where you're complaining. You just start to it just makes you more aware, and you can start to change yourself, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:27

Because when I'm up here, I'm not aware that's right in the body, right? You're like, and if I'm aware of it in my chest, and it's I feel it, and but if I'm aware of it down below in this chalice, it feels just like I'm bulletproof, like I'm impenetrable.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:45

Yes, yes. Well, nothing, and and that's the truth. You could have be in a hurricane and you'd be fine with it, right? Like because it's it's you know, you get to work, you do what you need to do, you know, we need to, you know, do what you need to do, but it's not it's not something that's gonna knock you down and keep you down, and and you know, you're gonna get up and you're gonna do what you need to do. But it really it's it's very, very stabilizing for the energy. Stabilizes you on so many different levels. Like it stabilizes your physically in your body, it stabilizes your nervous system, you know, uh, it stabilizes your mind, it stabilizes your emotions because you know, everything's balanced. Everything, everything is about balance for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

So we want to balance that Taoism thing, that that middle path, that yin and yang, that yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:37

Yes, and okay, yes, and so that you don't have so much resistance to you know the dark and the heaviness in there. You look at it, you integrate it, and then you expand. You yes, you're the yin-yang, you're in that whole, you're in a whole system.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:54

So I love that. Okay, so the big question then, okay, so I want to go to Disney and I want to heal people. So, but I feel like a scumbag. Like there's this guy on Facebook, he's like, I'm the best hypnotist in the world. I charge people a million dollars, or this other hypnotist. He's like, for $67, I'll teach you how to earn $650 now, or so I'm like, uh, that just makes me feel gross. It's like I'm just I throw all that trash down into my chalice and watch it burn up because it's just disgusting. So how how do I be like, come people and feel my light? I'm I'm pouring my energy down to my chalice now. I feel like I'm being healed. And so I'm sending out these ripple healings, and just by being around me, we'll all ground ourselves together, we'll all get healed and now pay me so I can go to Disney. So, how does that work?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:50

Love that. So, too many expectations. Uh it's like my granny says, when you make when you make plans, God's gonna laugh at them.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:59

For sure, for sure. Yeah, and just a little side note.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:03

Yeah, like but it doesn't mean you can't have goals, it just means the more because listen, I people I'm like, who's gonna listen to me? And yet I want to shout to everybody, like, oh my god, you're not because because I can feel everybody. I can feel I can feel them. I have to be very quiet. Um, I have to be very quiet and I have to really control myself. And because you know, somebody can come in and tell me I'm so grounded, and I know, and I'm like, that's wonderful, that's great. And I'm like, oh my god, they're the most ungrounded. Their energy is I'm in a lot of pain. I'm in a lot of pain, you know, and and it's like it's fine. That person's on that journey, and it's okay. But I think the people that you are meant to help will come to you, so they will they will come to you and you know it's all about vibration. So the more that you work on yourself, the more you raise your vibration, the more stable you are. You're literally going to attract others that resonate with you. And when they see what you've done and they've seen your experiences, and you're showing them by example, you know, uh what your life is like now, say prior to your near-death experience, and you know, you want to help people, um you just work on that because don't worry about the people that are saying they're whatever the best in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't bother me.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

The what bothers me is and I'm like, Yeah, that's all just, you know, like Ronda says, gris for the mill. You know, that's that's what that is. I feel no energetic pull by that. It's just it just I feel the grossness, I feel the heavy weight of it. It doesn't feel light and fun. So I like I said, I throw it in the fire and just watch it burn up. The part that bothers me is as people are coming to me, I just want to heal them. Like I I just don't know how to put a price tag to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:59

Well, but you can't you they have to want to heal. We we're not doing it, we're not doing anything. What the best thing you can do is well, the price tag, okay. That's something look, that's that's what I'm talking about. Okay, let me go there. Right, that's what I'm talking about. Charging for healing is okay. I when I started doing this, it was all free. I'm like, I because I was trying to figure out if what I was doing was was real, and I'm like, I was so shy. I would tell people, okay, uh, you know, I'm gonna connect with you at two o'clock on Thursday. You can book with me, and I'll send you an email. I wouldn't even see them. I wouldn't, no phone calls, no zoom, no thing. I'm like, right, and I'm gonna send you an email, and in exchange for the exchange, I would ask them for their feedback the good, the bad, and the ugly.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:55

So for seven months or a year, I don't know, I started to do that, and you know, I would connect with people, I'd get all this information, I would feel things, I would write these emails. Then while I was writing the emails, I would get more information and I'm writing these, it would take me like two hours sometimes. I'd send these emails, and people are like, Oh my god, how did you know that? I'm like, I don't know, I felt it or it came through, and you know. Um, and then eventually after I was like, okay, I have to when I thought, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna actually set something up. Um, and again, I had to do a website. I'm like, what am I gonna put on the website? I don't even know what I do. I how am I gonna explain this? Um, you know, uh, but that was another story that literally was channeled to me in about two days. I did my whole website and it came up like, oh my god, I I didn't do that. It just it it just flow flowed naturally. But then I'm like, okay, I have to charge people. What am I gonna charge people? Right, right. But because I worked with this healer in Quebec and he charged 50 bucks. I'm like, I'm gonna choose 50, I'm gonna charge $55.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:02

Yeah, inflation, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:03

And so I started charging $55, and it was literally just recent, and everyone's like, you're like charging, you should charge more, and and you know, so many people saying it it's they were telling me that you're not valuing yourself, and I do not see it that way because they're people put you know, a cost on val on value, and it's like it's for me, it's about the light. So even though I'm working with somebody and I'm connecting with the light and doing an energy session, or if you want to call it a healing session, I'm also receiving the light at the same time. Like we're I'm getting something out of it as well. But it's very difficult to charge, I don't charge a lot of money. I just recently went up to a sliding scale $55 to like $110. And I'm like, Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, if you can afford it and it's a sliding scale, but for me, if I have somebody come every week and they can afford that, it's better to I would rather see somebody come multiple times than be able to afford $800 for an hour and see them once. That's like I'm like, okay, uh it doesn't, you know, unless um somebody was doing like instant healings all the time. But again, I think the real the real people, the genuine healers out there that can do that sort of work, you don't even know about them. And they're very right, and they don't, you know, it has nothing to do with all the the money. I think the money there's a fine line between and it's an energetic thing, but uh where the money and the business side of it can it can shift the energy.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

Yes, the energy.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:53

So it depends on the person. Doesn't mean you can't make money. I'm trust me, I'm not and I never told anybody they couldn't pay me more than $55. Like there's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:01

Right. Right?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:02

So it's if somebody wanted to pay me more, they they could. So but I leave that up to the up to the person. And I've received I've received gifts from the universe in other ways.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:14

That's what I was thinking. Yeah, thank you for that. Because I was thinking, what if I just make it a donation model? Like, don't tie it to results, don't you tie it like just is this the work? And then trust the universe to give me the in this case, the Disney trip. I work with people, I heal with people, I just listen to I put stuff, I draw the light into the chalice, see what happens in a curious manner, and then let the universe do the rest.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:44

That's right. And then the universe, if you want that trip to Disney, you put that out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:49

And the universe could then send the right people to, you know, uh, that something something could happen along those lines.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

Because if you're like the CEO of Disney, maybe he hears about me on TikTok and is like, oh, I want to try this. It's like all right, uh fly me down to Disney and I'll let's let's do this.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:12

So that's entirely possible. All of that is possible. Yeah, you have to see that also on the smaller scale because that's where the universe will gift you. For me, I get gifts of I get vibrations, I get a new vibration, and sometimes I will get for me, my gifts are experiences. So I've had so many mystical experiences that are incredible, but it's not like they happen all the time. So, you know, for instance, I met someone on a on a plane once, and literally it was a mediumship experience where the brother came through and I had all this information, and I was like, I'd never done that before. And then I'm like, I'm a medium, and it's like, and then oh, you know, I don't know what's gonna happen in the next session, right? So that was a gift for me that I experienced that. I've had you know the gifts of them showing me my past lives. Like they literally took me into my past lives. They I had the gift of them then showing me the past lives of other people where I went into their, but it's not something that happens all the time. So I receive the gifts and they show me the possibility what's possible. There's so many things that are possible. Then they're like, right, right, move on. Don't get attached to it. You can't get attached to right because we're not, you know, because then you're like, Well, I'm so special, yeah, yeah, yeah. Special, I can do this, you know. And it's like, no, I'm not, I'm just me. I'm still I'm just me. And yet, I having all these extraordinary experiences, and yet I still come back to I I'm I see the light, I feel the light, yeah, I feel it in the body, I feel it in the other person, and I move. I help to get them in flow and I open up the base and I pull the light in the body, and then I feel the energy running, and then it gets brighter and brighter and hotter and hotter and brighter. It's like it's incredible. And then I start seeing people shift and change, and I see their energies change, you know. So I always come back to that part that I, you know, I'm so thankful and I'm blessed to be able to. I still I'm still I'm like a little kid in a at Christmas time, something happened. That happened to me. Oh, oh, I saw something for somebody, and it was, you know, and I'm like, oh, I, you know, there's a a quote here by Eeyore, and they're like, Oh my god, that's my sister, and I have a tattoo of Eeyore. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, I'm like, what do you mean? And I get so excited about that. Um, because I don't expect it every time. I literally don't know what's gonna happen because I'm such a puny little part of it. Yeah, the universe is I don't understand it, but it's it's it's incredible, and just to be able to be a small part in that and be able to feel feel that light and and see the light and see it in others. I see the light in others and I feel it in others, and so I'm like, give me all the gifts, whatever gifts, and and even if there's nothing too small, you know, that's a gift. And if you if you help people along the way, I mean that's a gift too, right? So it's it's quite um special if somebody comes by, comes and says, Wow, this, you know, you helped me with something, but then you have to let it go.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:22

Um let it go, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:25

One of the teachings that I had from this healer, he was like, You treat everybody like a chair, they're just the chair and you're working on the chair, and then when you say goodbye, you can't become attached to, or even if a healing has happened, you can, it's not you that's doing it, you cannot become attached to it, right? So um, but what you can become at what you can commit to is yourself and keeping yourself the best channel that you can be and hold the light, as much of that light as you can for others so that they can then see the light in themselves, and then it just it spreads, right? Then that's that ripple effect. Yeah, when you let go of the idea that I just want to heal people, I just want to heal people, and you let go of that, then it's just gonna start to it's just gonna happen automatically and be like, oh wait, wait, that's happening, because you're just focused on being you and connecting to that love and connecting to that light, you know, being who you are, and just the fact of you being who you are is going to help others around you.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:34

That's amazing. I mean, that's summarized. Usually I end podcasts with so what's the message you have for the rest of the world to hear? And I think that was the message right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:45

Ah, perfect. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:46

So cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:47

Yes, love, love, love. It all comes back to love, unconditional love.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:51

Yeah. And I see why he calls you a, or sorry, Carl calls you a unicorn.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:58

It's you, yeah. It's you. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

Yeah, there's a few that may call you that too.

unknown 1:23:04

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:04

I guess I could see it now. So thank you so much for being here. And we'll include all your information on the description of this episode, and I'm sure we'll see each other more in the future.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:15

I hope so. Thank you so much for having me on here. I was a little nervous because it was like the hypnosis world, and I'm like, I'm a little different, but um, anybody that will listen to me, I'm just even if it's one person, I I just it brings me so much joy and to connect with you and your light, and just you know, that's all we want to do is we want to shine the light and spread the love. So it's been an honor to be on this podcast with you, Ryan. So thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:39

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:40

And thanks you.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:42

Bye bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:42

All right, take care. Bye.