Allan Hassoun: Dowsing Rods, Energy Alchemy, and the Mind's Ability to Bend Reality

In this episode of AWAKEN, Ryan sits down with Allan Hassoun — hypnotist, Reiki master, energy worker, and the Mind Alchemist himself — for one of the most wide-open, down-the-rabbit-hole conversations the show has ever had. And that is saying something.

Allan came into Ryan's orbit the way the best connections do: Ryan posted a video on Facebook playing with dowsing rods made from coat hangers, and Allan messaged him immediately. Turns out Allan has been working with dowsing rods and pendulums for decades — using them to measure belief, track resistance, clear energy fields, and even attempt to alter the frequency of water. And yes, he has stories.

In this conversation they cover a lot of ground: a man named Raymond Grace who reportedly purified a cyanide-contaminated well using nothing but his mind, children bending spoons at a picnic while adults stood there baffled, a spoon that cracked in half on the highway because Allan finally stopped trying, the Abraham Hicks Money Game, inherited trauma encoded in DNA, a mass on an x-ray that disappeared before surgery, using Pac-Man to visualize healing, time distortion for a client in an MRI machine, and why Allan quietly raises the energetic frequency of his entire neighborhood without telling anyone. Oh, and they do a live pendulum demonstration — including a silent yes/no test that Ryan couldn't have influenced even if he wanted to.

This one is firmly in woo territory and neither of them apologizes for it. Come curious.

Three quotes from Allan worth writing down:

"The resistance is the stuff that pulls the cork down. Every time you do some hypnosis and you feel better, you let go of some of that programming, and you start moving up. The higher you move, the more effortless life becomes."

"Whether I actually did something or not — there's no way of telling. But I know the power of the mind."

"Things are okay. When you look from a bigger perspective, everything is working out, and everything will come back to balance. Don't worry so much."

Connect with Allan Hassoun: Website: mindalchemist.ca YouTube: youtube.com/@mindalchemists Phone: (647) 699-2204 Free 5-minute anxiety audio: available on his website Free complimentary session: Allan is offering a free hour to anyone who reaches out before July 10th — link in the show notes

Connect with Ryan DeJonghe / TranceWell: Website: trancewell.help Email: ryan@trancewell.help

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hey everyone. Thank you so much for being here in this spot right now with me. I I really appreciate you being here, and your friendship means a lot to me. And today, because of you, I'm able to bring on a special guest. We have Alan Hassoon. Welcome. Welcome to the show, Alan.

SPEAKER_04 0:21

Thank you so much, Ryan. Love to be here.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Now, for a little context for people, I was I put on display on Facebook these coat hangers. And they're like these dowsing rods, essentially is what they are. They're just coat hangers and they dangle in this straw. For those people that are listening and not watching, it's just they dangle. So that way I'm not holding the coat hanger directly. They're just free-floating. And then they're just kind of neutral right now. And if I think of certain things, like for instance, if I think of hate and war for those that aren't close, aren't watching, just hearing, the coat hanger just closed. And I attribute that to like my energy field closing. Now when that and then they're naturally opening just on their own right now. And now I'm thinking of just love. I'm actually gonna move it out of the way because they're colliding. Okay. I'm thinking of love and gratitude. And now they're just swinging wide open, like my energy field is opening. And so, anyhow, so I was just playing around with that. And then Alan messages me and says, Hey, I use dowsing rods all the time. So tell us more, Alan. What got you into the dowsing rods in the beginning?

SPEAKER_04 1:35

So, Ryan, a few years ago, and I'll say many years ago, maybe 30 years ago, I was really bored at work, and I found out that there was a picnic with uh a gentleman by the name of Raymond Grace. And he's one of the world's best dowser. He's actually, I would call him an alchemist. He's able to change the frequency of water into pure water. So he goes to polluted sites, even through the power of his mind from a thousand miles away, he will be able to change the quality of the water. So when I went to this picnic, I saw all kinds of weird things. Like there was a jar with a cotton ball from a string, and kids were like, move, move, move.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Like, okay, so that's kind of cool. Maybe I could talk to a glass jar myself. But then they did some spoon bending, and it was it's funny because all the children they would hold a spoon in their hand, and the spoon would just bend over. But the adults that were trying to do things from the level of the mind, they just couldn't do it, or at least most of them couldn't do it. So from that day on, I got really fascinated by the whole world of energy and what could be done or not done. Can I walk through a wall? Maybe, but I wouldn't run into the wall to test it because that could be really painful. But through the power of the mind, you can actually go inside a wall and see what's in there. You could see where the electrical is, you could see uh you can actually smell the dampness of the Jiprock if you really try. Depending on how often you walk into walls.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Okay, okay. You just dropped a lot of bombs there. Like a lot, right? So let's rewind all the way back to this dude that can purify water with just his thoughts. Now, I'm this isn't the first I've heard of such a thing. I heard there was like the Gulf of Mexico spill, and they used sound frequencies to clean up the water. They use like a 528 hertz sound, like the love frequency, or maybe that's like the uh the heart chakra frequency. I you know, I have no idea, but what do you mean he could purify water? Tell me more.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

So so the story that he tells is he was invited to a farmer's property, and the farmer said that he had really high levels of cyanide in his well. And so what he did is he energized a bottle of water and he put a thought for him into the water that anything that this water touches will have the same quality or level of purity as the water that he had energized. He dropped the water into the well, and the farmer a little while later had the uh Ministry of the Environment, I believe that's what it was, check how much cyanide was in the water, and the level of cyanide had gone from so many parts per million to just about acceptable, and then they had it retested a few months later, and again, it went down to almost zero. There was no trace of cyanide in the water, and they said they've never seen this before in their life. And what he does is he also right over a radio station if he tells you bring a glass of water in front of you, yeah, and taste the difference before and after. That is the power of the mind. So you may wonder how it's done. We have what we call divining charts.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

What is it called?

SPEAKER_04 5:23

Dousing charts or divining charts, and you could go on to um Google and find images of different charts. But when you measure energy, you could see the energy of clean water. You ask on the chart, show me an indication of what clean water is like. Just show me on the chart is it a hundred, a thousand? Because all charts could be different. And so it says pure water, it has the frequency of I'm just gonna make something up of 12. Uh, what's the the frequency of this water right now? It's 72. So once you know that there's a problem, you just with your your dowsing tools, you just say, Okay, so do we have permission and ability to change the frequency to the ideal frequency of pure water? If you get a yes, then you just do it. So you have your your rods, this is like it hits me in the chest, and I say, Okay, so do I have the ability to do this over the air? And I'm getting a yes, and uh just say, Okay, so do it, and then because you have a measurement, whether it's you who measures it or my friend down the street or someone else, we should have about the same measurement.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Everything is measurable. Okay, so how okay, so you have these charts. This is pretty amazing. So, how do you measure this water?

SPEAKER_04 6:52

You said it's a frequency, so in a protocol for water, we have ten or fifteen different things we measure. We first check to see if there's any kind of entities or bad spirits in the water. That's uh a yes or no question. If there is, we ask uh the spirits to remove the ones that are bad, just so that there's nothing bad in the water. Then we could ask, is there any non-beneficial frequencies? And if there is, we could ask to transmute them into beneficial frequencies. We ask if the spirit of greed is in the water.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Again, if it is the spirit of what greed, the spirit of greed to be greedy. Oh, spirit of greed, right?

SPEAKER_04 7:44

So so again, I learned about the greed when I was looking at um at energizing water, and I was told that if the bottle came from a company, a corporate, I won't mention any names, but uh yeah, I used to work for one of them.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

I used to work for PepsiCo, and we would do um man, why the Sani, I believe, was their brand.

SPEAKER_04 8:07

Yeah, I've had the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

And then you got Nestle, you got Nestle. They have, I know they're taking over a lot of wells in the world, a lot of springs.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

Yes, so even with those companies, if the the company is greedy and sometimes the spirit of the water doesn't want to enter the water, so you have to clean out the greed from the container to allow the spirit of the water into the water.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

You know, like to an average person, this sounds like total BS, right? But to me and you, like I've seen the experiment in Japan where they labeled water with the different names, like love, hate, and the water would like under a powerful microscope, they could see the difference just by putting a label on the water. And then I'm thinking of like Native Americans, how they would like almost pray over everything, every m everything that went into their body, they would they would like sanctify it. So that's interesting. So do you go around before you drink any water and you do your rods on every time you drink water?

SPEAKER_04 9:12

No, I actually programmed my body that every time water enters my body it will be raised to the right frequency for me, which is a lot easier than staying all day long saying you have to be energized, you have bad energy.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Interesting. So it's like you have a filter now. Okay, now the obvious question: can we turn it into wine?

SPEAKER_04 9:35

I'm thinking about that one because you could Jesus thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Jesus could turn water into wine. You talk about walking through walls, and then pretty soon we'll talk about walking on water, right? I think that's the next logical step. And then so can we work for that one? Yeah, like I'm really I really want to do it because like if you look at the history, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:59

There is a frequency for wine, everything has a frequency. So I do believe that you could change the frequency of water to the frequency of wine. But will you have the same intoxicating effect? Like you have to be really specific when you ask for something, so it might not taste like wine because it's still water, but it so so Ryan, I have a Rife machine, R I F E, and it's basically a I don't know what that is generator. Oh so I could imprint a frequency of aspirin into water, I could put it right into my own body if I want. Uh I can imprint any medication if it if it's got a um molecular weight. You put the molecular weight of that substance and you put it right into water. Two days later, you drink the water, it's like I don't have a headache anymore. No need for heroin. Dude, I got my water.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

Yeah, like it's it's interesting because a lot of this is going down my mode of thinking lately. How I see this thing we call God or the universe as a frequency, a vibration. And I think the Sumerians, they're the ones that called God Sophia, like this highest vibration of frequency, and then like the when the frequency, like she's just bored up there, like this this pure frequency, and then so it's like let's make this thing we call reality. You know, let's make it interesting. And so she lowered and made all these different frequencies, and like the lowest frequency being the earth, and then we all are these different frequencies, and we're like aspects of Sophia engaging with one another, so it's like a game Sophia's playing with herself, like an aspect of hers and you, an aspect of hers and me, an aspect of her. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Oh man, this is crazy. So a rife machine. Okay, I gotta look at this up. Now let's talk about spoon bending. All right, this is full matrix. So you mentioned kids, and I I love this aspect because even like Jesus, going back to Jesus, he talks about how it's he's like to enter the kingdom of heaven, you have to be like a child. And there's a lot about that with hypnosis too. You see stage shows where the younger, before their critical faculty is fully formed and they're still curious, they're still allowing, they're still on that cusp of believing in Santa, you know, and then they make excellent subjects for the stage. Well, he is real, brother. Like that's funny because there's these, yeah, exactly. You laugh, I laugh. We look at the hypnotherapy community on Facebook, there's like 30,000, 31,000 people on there, and I I ask a question about the subconscious, and someone comes on there. We all know who he is, comes on there every time and says, the subconscious is not real. I'm like, dude, we're on the hypnotherapy board here. Just give it a rest. This is our comment, this is our Santa Claus. If a client wants to believe in Santa or Puff the Magic Dragon or Frequencies, then by God, let's leverage their beliefs to facilitate change. Right? That only makes sense. Whatever they believe, that's that's half the battle. Find out what their belief is and then use that for the change instead of arguing with them. Oh, no, no, no, you're wrong. Anyhow, so back to back to the kids and the cotton ball. Yeah, what's the thing? Yeah, so let's talk about obviously we're talking about like in the matrix when Neo sees the kids. It's just like you described. Neo goes in there and it's a bunch of little kids that are bending spoons and floating blocks, and then one of the kids tells Neo, what do you say? Like the spoon isn't real, or something like that. Oh, what is that quote? Do you know what that I'm talking about? Did you ever see it? Yeah, oh no, the quote is there is no spoon. That's what the quote is. Neo's like, How are you bending the spoon? And then the kid says, There is no spoon. And then at the end of the movie, he's like, obviously, it's a spoiler, it's been around forever. When he goes to save Morpheus, and there's all this machine gun fire, and he's facing Agent Smith. Neo says, There is no spoon, and he's practically like floating in the air and dodging bullets. There is no spoon. So is that how it works? It's just the spoon is a frequency, it's not really there.

SPEAKER_04 14:49

So so I do believe the spoon is there. Sorry, like I'm not gonna eat my soup with a fork. You I need a spoon, but I believe in a spoon. Okay, but let's tie it in together with hypnosis, the mind, and the spoon. So, what happens is that when you go into a very calm state of mind, no known as alpha, theta, delta, you're able to move energy. Children, until the age of five or six, they're mainly operating in the imagination, which is the alpha state, and closer theta. When you get closer to theta, you're you're able to start moving the energy a lot more, so you could start manifesting things through thought. And all these people who talk, like Joe Dispenza, Dr. Joe Dispenso, who talks about going into the quantum and finding what you want and bringing it back. There's a place where everything exists, but you have to believe it exists to make it happen. So I've only bent one fork or spoon once. I think it was a spoon, it was many years ago. I was I bought spoons and I organized a group, and I had a video on how to bend the spoon with your mind. So I went to the dollar store and bought like a hundred spoons, and everybody was there. Ben Ben Ben. And a couple people did it, and nobody believed them. They said, Yeah, yeah, you're very strong. You probably bent it with your mind. But the one day I did it, I was driving. I just I guess I was in that alpha state, what they call highway hypnosis. And I was like, Yep, bend now, and it totally bent. Now, the difference between bending a spoon with force and what happened with this spoon is the minute I tried to unbend it, it just cracked in half. Like the metal, the the the way the metal, the composition of the metal changed completely to the point where it could not be bent, it could just break. So, somehow, in my mind, when I was in a very, very relaxed state, I said there was no spoon, I was one with the spoon or whatever I was thinking of, squirrel crossing the road. Right. And in my distraction, I was and it bent right away. I hope that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

So it's like you let go of it.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

Yeah. It was all about letting go of uh the belief.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Yeah, there's something there. Like I've been playing around with manifestation lately, and it's like you you have the idea. Like you say, Joe Dispenza, he goes out, he fetches it, and then you let go. And I also like how the idea of you have to be specific, because like for instance, I said I want to see a truck that has pink and white dots. I think that would be silly to see a truck with pink and white dots. Like I've never seen a truck with pink and white dots that I know of. And then on my way home on my walk, which I've done hundreds and hundreds of times, I saw a fire hydrant I never saw before. It was pink with these white shaft and then black spots all over it. I was like, that's so weird. I've never seen that before, but there is this weird-looking fire hydrant. It wasn't a truck, so there's something about like I don't know if I was not specific enough, or the universe, I think, just has a sense of humor sometimes. Like, I'm the one in control, not you.

SPEAKER_04 18:32

Uh, I was following Abraham Hicks for the last 30 years or so, since probably 1998, 99, somewhere around there. And I I actually met them like 30, 40 times in different workshops in different places around the world. But it was kind of cool because the example you gave is that when the universe starts to deliver, it might not be the whole thing at once, but you start seeing evidence. So the first part of the evidence was pink and white hydrant, and you say, Oh, the colors are right now. I just want to see it more often in more places. And the more you stay focused, the faster it comes to you. You don't have to overly focus, you just have to be excited and happy. It's like it's so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, it made me excited and happy. Before when I tried it, I was like, oh, this has to work, this has to work. And it felt almost like a tense, heavy feeling. But when I was like lighthearted with it, then fun things start to happen. And when you're talking about focus, are you talking about this? Is where I'm not sure on manifesting. If you're talking about focusing on one thing at a time, like Napoleon Hills, like have one thing that you do at a time, but I also want to be like, What? I want to focus, you know, I want to make this car I want, or I want to focus on this particular client I want to have in my life, I want to focus on my relationship. Like, can you manifest several things at one time?

SPEAKER_04 20:01

Absolutely. That's a very short answer. So, so what I do is I set a goal, a big goal for the year, and I chunked it down. And so, right now I want to build a multi-million dollar retreat center so I could do workshops and have people rent the place out and have a whole bunch of fun people coming on the the property to you know in little tiny homes that are available for them to stay there overnight and so on. Yeah, I mean for that I need many millions of dollars, but because you I approach you about dowsing rods, I also use a pendulum. This is maybe a lot a lot easier for you to see. So when it hits me on in the chest, it's a yes. When it hits me on the shoulder, it's a no. And if I use two of them when they cross over, that this is my yes, and when they open up like that, this is my no. So I measure my beliefs, expectation for that desire. So on a scale of zero to ten, this is where the charts come in. So on a scale of zero to ten, how much do I believe that I I will have my my manifestation a hundred percent? I mean so so it's not a zero to ten question when it hits me in the the chest, but because I've asked it before with a pendulum, will I manifest my my retreat center? Will will it be in this lifetime? Yes. Will I still be young enough to enjoy it? Yes, you know, so you can ask a whole bunch of questions, but if my belief is only 30 percent, then I have to do something to raise my belief through hypnosis or change my expectations. So, will I manifest this? I asked a few questions about timeline because I want it to be realistic, I don't want to be a million years old by the time I get. It right now part of the program.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Right, you want to enjoy it, you want to meet those cool people that come in and do cool things at your retreat place.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Yeah, so so this morning, even this morning, I was saying, okay, so right now I'm having trouble manifesting this because I have a block somewhere, and it's a financial block. So I'm using one of the games from Abraham Hicks, which is called the Money Game, where every day I spend an additional thousand dollars vibrationally. So the first day I pretend I spent a thousand dollars, I bought myself new shoes, uh gas for the car, windshield wipers, whatever it was. Yeah, it was pretty easy to spend. The second day was two thousand, third day three thousand, fourth day, four thousand. Today I was at sixteen thousand. I've already spent $140,000 or so on little things, and give me another two or three weeks, I'll be at like $250,000. But 16,000, it's it's not enough. I went to look at the price of a barbecue, $32,000 on Amazon. It's like, yeah, what the hell? I have to work really hard for that. Yeah, so I had some resistance. I I found there's a certain point where I have to change my mindset. So, how do we do that? We could say, okay, so I have resistance, I don't even need the dowsing rods to tell you that. Yeah, so I could do some tapping, EFT tapping, and then measure again. Is my resistance still at 10? No, it's gone down to five.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Is it a four?

SPEAKER_04 23:33

Oh, come on. Yeah, that remaining resistance, that bugger that doesn't want to leave.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

What do you say when you're doing the tapping? Because I'm familiar, do you say something as you're doing those taps? Like, do you say resistance go away, or what are you saying as you're tapping?

SPEAKER_04 23:47

I I say anything and everything that comes to my mind. So I'll say, even though I have this resistance and I don't know where I got it from, it's dad's fault, it's mom's fault. It must be Ryan's fault. I don't think you know his this guy, but I want to blame someone. Yeah, blame me. And it feels better to blame it than take responsibility, so it's his fault. And then I'll tap on another point and say, you know what? I really don't need a $32,000 barbecue, but I wish I had so much money that I could do that.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:17

Unless I was a lawyer, a doctor, a crook, there's no way. I'm not Scarface, I'm not Al Capone or anything else. And I'll just do my tapping and then I measure. Because if you don't measure, you cannot know where you're at on the emotional scale, on the vibrational scale.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

When you're when you were doing that display just now, tapping and saying those things, the thing, the image that came to my mind is you're talking about resistance, and then you used another word just a bit ago, work. Like that's where my downfall seemed to be is, and it's funny we're talking about this today because I was doing uh Alistair Crowley De Tarot, and it pulled up, you know, like this death of like it reminded me of when I first started in hypnosis. We were a lot of people were told, do a funnel, do a lead magnet, then a funnel, do follow-ups, do add-ons, do these, you know, these whole, you know, it's just yeah. And it was a lot of work. I would spend hours and hours and hours toiling away, building the website, building the lead magnet, reaching out to people, paying for ads, and it just didn't do any fruit. It was like I was trying to plant a garden and then in the driveway. And then when you remove that work, it seems like the resistance also goes away. And I know that Dali Ching talks about that not that effortless effort where it's almost playing, like being here with you right now. This is technically work, yet it's enjoyable, it's effortless effort because I'm enjoying time with you, I'm enjoying learning things, and I feel that both of us will be blessed because of this moment, like this will help both of our businesses. I don't know. Is there something to that? Like that resistance versus the work.

SPEAKER_04 26:18

Absolutely. Um, in the words of Abraham Hicks, because I've followed them for so long, yeah. They're sort of like their words are my words. Yeah, but what happens is a cork naturally floats to the top of the water. The resistance or the stuff, the programming that we have is the stuff that pulls the cork down. So every time you do some hypnosis and you feel better, you let go of some of that programming, some of that baggage, and you start moving up. The higher you move, the more effortless life becomes. Things become synchronistic. So this week, because I've been playing this game, I've been saying, I want a calendar that's full of clients, full in advance, and out a few weeks. So when people call me, it's like, let me see if I could fit you in type of attitude. So after three, four days of doing this, I got people starting to book towards the end of April. So now I'm filling in the gap. And interesting. People are coming out of the woodwork, someone I haven't talked to for many years.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Yeah, that's just surprising.

SPEAKER_04 27:35

I need a session, I've been following you on YouTube for the last 40 years or whatever, and you're the best. I really love you, even though I never called you once until I knew whatever. It's okay. Because I asked the universe, but my my energy is open to receive.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

So have you I I love this aspect that you're talking about. So, did you put out any ads?

SPEAKER_04 28:00

So, so I have two parts of my business. Yeah, so to answer your question, yes, I do have Google ads running. Uh, when I get a Google client, it's good money for me. Yeah, and it's from an unknown venue. But now 50% of my stuff is coming through referrals. So I work with a clinic, and when they get me a client, I give them 30%. I'm happier than a pig in crap. Yeah, I don't have I don't know how family uh friendly your channel is. Oh, yeah, I've had people.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Yeah, yeah. I know when I post it to YouTube, I had to say, is this for kids? Nah.

unknown 28:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Although I think it's funny because my fiance's son watches this too. He's you know younger, and you know, I think he's getting a lot out of it. I think the kids would get a lot out of all this, you know, allow to encourage that curiosity. You know, like at a certain point that curiosity just stops. And that's unfortunate. I see that's when almost like disease starts forming and sadness and fear and anger, all those heavy things creep in when that curiosity stops.

SPEAKER_04 29:13

You know, Ryan, I am gonna turn this off. Call you back later, buddy. That was my phone that just went off, so I uh I apologize about that.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Oh, I didn't even hear it. That's all good. That's all good.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

So so with my um my rods, I asked a little while ago, can I set back my biological age? And I got a yes. So I am 66. I'm gonna turn it back. It said I could go back to 41. Okay. So I'm gonna use the power of my mind to say, okay, so what do I need to do this? How long will it take? When will I see evidence? Yeah, because even with disease, and what I learned from Raymond Grace is that you could go back in time. So he has another story about his own body, how he's about 80-5 years old, I'd say by now. But he was suffering from arthritis in the knees, and he went to see a doctor, they took an x-ray, and they told him you'll need a knee replacement. So, what he did is he used his pendulum and said, Did I inherit this disease known as arthritis from one of my parents? He got a yes. So he said, Could I go back in time to the seconds before I was conceived and change the information within the DNA so I don't have arthritis in my leg anymore or anywhere in my body?

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

And he got a yes. So he did that. He went back in time, and after he removed the frequency of arthritis from his DNA before he was born, or from his parents' DNA, yeah, what he did is he put in any information that would be required to rebuild his knee, and he just asked it was a general question any information that my DNA needs to rebuild my knee, as if it was that of a young person without arthritis. And uh he said that for about six months he was in excruciating pain as his body went through the release and rebuilt, but now he's like 80 years old, climbing up mountains, chopping wood.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Yeah, that's funny. I know the same as for like Ektarct Tole, he talks about being just in the presence and not aging. And when you talk about the science of it, I know Dean Ornish has some interesting things. Part of it, it's kind of confounded some of his work because it includes diet, exercise, community. And yeah, he does uh Dean Ornish, he's in California, he did a study where the telomeres of the DNA were like going the opposite way, they're like the ends of shoelaces. Yeah, and then so his study showed how they were repairing almost. And you mentioned Joe Despenza, and a similar thing with him and his accident and like being able to do almost surgery, because I said he would have to like fuse his spine and do this complicated surgery, and he's like, nah. And then he just it was like six months or so, but like just intense visualization and just that mental exercise of getting into the alpha state and that heart brain coherence. Speaking of that, what do you think about that? The heart brain coherence.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

So I understand that the heart is where all the energy comes from. And uh let's start over. So so the what I believe is that love heals everything, and where the love is stored is in the heart, it's a very, very strong high frequency. So even when uh you read a book such as Power versus Force, love is at the very top of the scale. Um greed, shame, guilt, fear is at the bottom of the scale. So, what you want to do is raise your energy to that of love because once you're you have love in the heart, you can project it to any person, place, or thing in the world and affect a change. Now, if you are in in a group, so uh Lynn Taggart, I think her name was, the power of eight. She would have groups of eight people focusing on a situation and noticing the crime rate going down.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Dude, the it's funny this conversation because just last night, this will be a little off for when I post it on YouTube, but last night I had Lori Hammond on, and we were talking about the same thing Abraham Hicks, the power of eight, all this stuff, and she's a totally different direction than you as far as her professional work, and yet these same themes keep coming up. It's just it's amusing to me.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

Yeah, and and lately I've gotten into breath work as well. Because when you're focused on breathing, you're not in your head, you're not in tomorrow or to or yesterday, you're just right in the now. So as you connect to your breath and you let go, you just focus on your breathing, the world will change without you doing anything.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Right, right. And when you're talking about that love is more powerful, that reminds me of Gandhi. You know, and are all these Brits. Yeah, yeah. And he's, you know, all these Brits have weapons, guns pointed at them, and Gandhi's just walks in there like, I love you guys. Would you mind leaving? And they left, you know. So I mean, it wasn't that quick, obviously, and there was other issues at play. Yet that's what it appears to me, is he just, through the power of love, was able to get an army to leave his country.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

So so I do that also, but at a smaller scale, I have people calling me from all over the world, and you know, very often you're surrounded by neighbors, people, employers, employees who are of really bad nature, let's say.

SPEAKER_02 35:29

The lower energy, the the they're they're soaked in fear and anger.

SPEAKER_04 35:34

Yeah, and they take it out on you, they do things that you know, they scratch your car for no reason, just really mean, stupid things. Yeah, but you could go and let's say if I wanted to work on you, I could put a bubble of protection around your house, raise the frequency of your house, adjust the frequency of your business to the right frequency so it attracts more business.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Yeah, and yes, please.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

Oh, no problem. You know, the the way I do this, because really life is too short to work on individuals one at a time. But let's say I put you tomorrow with uh one of my clients, Kyle, and another one, his name is also Ryan, he's in Virginia, and I put you all in a big basket. I say everybody who's in this basket, anybody I want to send the energy energy to will receive the energy at the same time. Again, through the power of my mind, I see you all there, and I just put it in my mind and say, Okay, so is if the frequency is not at the right place, just raise it. If there's trauma to be released, let's drop it out of the basket and put it somewhere where it won't hurt anyone. And you I could go through a hundred questions until I feel it's good, and when I feel it's good, I send the basket on with love, and just that's it.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Can we can we do an experiment? Here's what I'm thinking. So let's pick a time tomorrow where you'll do that. You'll send some energy to me. Uh, business would be great, you know, like just some clarification and pick a time, and then when I post this episode, I'll report back what happened.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

Okay, and I will measure it and I will give you the actual let me see on my chart what your your energy is at.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

Alright, this is fun, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

So right now my scale goes to 40,000. And when I pull out my pendulum, not too good, it's about 8,000.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

So eight out of 40,000. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

Yeah, but but it'll take about five, six minutes for me to change everything. It'll it'll change where you live, your business, and yourself and your family and pets if you have any.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

All right.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

So so we will do the change, and you might feel a big difference in that. So I'd love to hear back from you.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Yeah, but what time? So I could be on the like a lookout for it, or are you just going to surprise me?

SPEAKER_04 37:57

No, I will do it. So I'm on a call with the UK, which starts at 4 30 in the morning here. Oh my god. So that kind of sucks, but uh what I'm gonna do is around 11 a.m. in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

Between 10 30 and 11, because after that I'm going back to bed.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

Okay, okay. Well, I appreciate you giving me some uh energy and love before then. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Cool. One more thing that I want to do. You have your odds with you, right?

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're here. Here they are. So, what's your yes response? Uh I haven't established one. Let me ask. Uh, what's my yes response?

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Just say show me a yes. Show me a yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

So, yeah, similar to yours.

SPEAKER_04 38:45

Crossing over.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Yeah, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_04 38:47

So I'm gonna ask to increase.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

This one just went all the way the other way. Come back, friend. Okay, he's playful, I guess. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

So what would I ask if I were in front of you? Is Ryan open to the energy?

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Alright, that's a yes for those that are listening.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

Okay, so without verbalizing it, I'm gonna ask another question in my mind. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

That's a yes. That's funny. I like how you did that, you didn't tell me, so that way I couldn't manipulate the response.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

Yeah, the the question was, is today Friday?

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Oh, interesting. That's funny. So there's a yes. I like how you didn't tell it. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

Because using the Simpson protocol and hypnosis, I do a lot of things telepathically. I say, is this person ready to receive? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_03 39:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:53

Is there trauma? Yes or no? Oh, there's trauma.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

Big trauma. I was going to say, why am I 8,000? And it was like trauma. Hello.

SPEAKER_04 40:03

But but you know what? A lot of trauma also is inherited right in the DNA from your ancestors.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

So you don't know that your great-grandfather was a witch that was burned at the stake in Salem or somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

Well, I can I can list my trauma, brother. I got plenty of it. And yeah, I don't know if my grandfather or grandmother was burned at the stake either, maybe. But I definitely know what happened to me as a child.

SPEAKER_04 40:29

Yeah, and I know I had a really rough childhood as well. And I think it made me the person I am, so I'm grateful for it in a way. But when you're living through it, it sucks. Yeah. But you know what? When you when you repeat the programs of childhood when you're an adult and you're taking a temper tantrum when you're around adults, it it's not good for your career, it's not good for your life.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:52

Move on, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Like, I you know, to be honest, I thought I moved on. Like I thought I'd done a lot of growth, and then so I'm like, okay, I'm at 8,000 out of 40,000 scale, which is interesting. I'm still another part of my mind's like, that was so cool that you just asked me a question without asking it, and it responded. That was really cool. Like, is it Friday? Yep. Um yeah, so like and for the audience, I could have changed it.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Is it Thursday? Right, right, right. If you gave me a no, I'd say what the question was.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Oh, okay. That's yeah, that's fair. So the 8,000. So why am I yeah, 8,000? I thought like I meditate, I do hypnosis, I do self-hypnosis, I feel like I'm loving.

SPEAKER_04 41:41

What? Did you take the subway? You're in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

Oh no, no. I had a great day. Like I've been this morning, I've been doing another experiment. Like for seven days in a row, and I wake up with 30 seconds of gratitude. And then I I like, what will I experience today? I feel like I've had a pretty good day since I've been doing that. Like lots of little fun surprises, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

So so I just call it dirty energy. Do you know what's going on in the world?

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Yeah, I try to like ignore it.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Yeah, but but that sticks to you. Like, if you're outside and rain is called dirt, for example, you'll get wet just being outside. It's not that you're bad, it's not that you're not doing the right things. But let's say someone has a fight in the same restaurant that you ate lunch at. Yeah, you sit in that chair, and now you pick up all their energy and it's stuck to you like like glue. It's like it's horrible. And you say, What it must be the food. Well, that that mugu guy pen.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Well, yeah, yeah, we could blame it on all kinds of things. Yeah, I like how we as humans try to like you said earlier, we will we search for blame.

SPEAKER_04 42:51

Yes, so in my protocol, I check for the the the effects of mass consciousness minus 10 to plus 10. So you might be affected by stuff in Europe or at a concert or that you hear on the news if you listen to the news. Right. Check for uh let's say planetary alignment when you have these uh meteorites coming towards Earth and the vibration of the planet is off or 5G or something else.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

Yeah, I figured it out. I figured it out. I'm in the basement sitting next to my daughter's cat litter, and it stinks really bad. I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

That must be it. Laming out the cat litter.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yes, that's what it is. Usually I light a lot of incense, and it's just not doing the job right now.

SPEAKER_04 43:38

So I clear myself every day. It's nothing more than that is raise my vibration and take that energetic shower to remove all those things that are affecting me. And even you know, one of my uh videos, because I'm re revamping my YouTube, I found a video I had done about using a pendulum to trace a bottle. Body to see if there's any negative attachments to the body. Oh. And it's funny because I I forgot about that, that I do that kind of crap. I had five places in which I had pain, and when I made just a hand-drawn picture of a body, yeah, the exact places where I had my pain, there was something there. So whether it was an entity or negative energy or or a bad burrito, I don't know what it was. It was just bad. And I had the pain. So once I cleared the energy, and and just where's my pendulum? I do have a pendulum. So here, when you're removing energy, if you say please clear Ryan's energy field of all non-beneficial energy frequencies, I'm not making the pendulum move, it starts moving on its own. And I just say thank you to my team for having it done.

SPEAKER_03 45:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:01

So that's part of moving you up from 8,000 to uh to whatever 30, 34, 32.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

How did you and for everyone listening, watching, we'll include Alan's YouTube channel in the description, a link for it. And then so how what did you say when you said like move his energy to his highest good or something like that?

SPEAKER_04 45:21

Okay, so so I'm gonna use the exact words from a dowser by the name of Joey Korn. I think he's in Georgia.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

And what he says is may the powers of nature converge to transmute all non-beneficial energy frequencies into those that are beneficial, and may all beneficial energy frequencies be raised to their best and highest level for this person or to whoever is listening to this podcast at this time. That's a really fast way of doing it, but it's very, very all-encompassing.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

Yeah.

unknown 45:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:54

It's hard to charge for a whole hour's work when it only takes a minute.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

I I did find that. I think, yeah, I think as far as sitting with the clients, usually it's a lot of pre-talk. I think a lot of the work is done in the pre-talk, and then the actual work per se is pretty fast, usually.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

So so I hate to admit this, but since nobody knows me where you're at, when when people know the success they've had with me before, sometimes they call me and they say, Could you start working on me remotely?

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:26

And I say, Yeah, yeah, as soon as I get a moment. And then they call me back two hours, it's like, man, you're amazing. So the power of belief, the power of thought. Yeah. You're healing just because they think that I'm gonna heal them. Right. But I'm just like Jesus, I'm just like a carpenter guy doing nothing up here.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you said that, when you're just like, I like there was something I heard, I think it was Asho, and he's talking about this ancient Sanskrit record of Devi and Krishna, I think it was. I forget who the two gods that were talking. They were lovers and were pondering the mysteries of the universe and talking about how they can get in touch with one another. And he was saying that we can all be a Christ. There's only one Jesus because that was his persona, that was his personality. He had a personality, yet we can all be a Christ. Or like Gutama, we can all be a Buddha, but we can't all be a Gudama. You know, like we can't all be that person, but we can all be a Buddha. We can all be a Christ, we can all be a God. And even Jesus said that in the book of Matthew. He's looked out on the crowd and say, You are gods. So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 47:41

I've been called lots of things, never God.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I'm I'm rewinding now, going all the way back to that weird event that you went to where they're spending spoons. And you mentioned something else like a cotton ball in a jar. And I see something similar to that, where it's like, so I'm imagining it's like maybe a pencil is resting on top, and it's a piece of string, and the cotton ball is dangling inside the jar, right?

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Yeah, and because it was inside the jar, there was no draft or wind, there was a cover on top, so they couldn't even, you know, yeah, couldn't blow it.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Yeah, yeah. And then how close were the hands? Because some people speculate it's the heat of the hands.

SPEAKER_04 48:24

So some people say that they need their hands to make make things move. When I do energy healing, I am always engaged fully with my body. You know, I'm I close my eyes and I could actually see the liver, and I'm just opening them up like a surgeon, yeah, and taking the cell, looking at the liver, taking out that part, going for a spare part on the shelf, putting it back in, putting yeah, and so on. But my my hands are an extension of my my soul, the way I work. Uh, yet if you're in Connecticut, I'm in Toronto, and I have a visual of you, I could start working on you without moving my hands. I could just say, Okay, like I could even have a doctor with me in my mind's eye, and the doctor's doing the surgery, and I'm just saying, go a little to the left. Oops, you've got the wrong nerve.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a funny thought just now when you're we're talking about this, is maybe do like a YouTube channel. Well, on your YouTube channel, you can do YouTube live and just have like a desk with a jar sitting on it with a string hanging down and see if people can move it. Like if it's live, see if people can influence it to move just by watching it over video.

SPEAKER_04 49:44

And they stay on for a full three hours. That would go right through the roof. I I'd monetize that one. Yeah, I'm you know, it's it's very possible that it can if if they believe they can. I've never personally tried it. I have no patience to stay there and look at a cotton ball for three hours.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Right. Like I'm all over the place, but I would I did that similar thing with a candle, like in candle meditation, where you sit in a completely dark room and stare at a candle, and you can tell it go left or go right. I would also I would start by having the thoughts you talk about that energy shower, I have the day go up in the flames. I would visualize everything of the day just burning away and so as until the entire day just disappeared into the flame, and I was there in that moment, and then I would be able to be like, move left, move right. I wonder if I can even assign a yes or no to that, like go left for no and right for or whatever it wanted.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

Like probably, probably. Give me a sign. Should I be going to work today? Yes or no, that goes to the right if it's yeah. So I wanted to share just a little story with you because many years ago when I got into the energy work, I was new to Toronto and I was just meeting up with all kinds of groups trying to find a place where I fit in. And in one such group, they had a um some kind of guru Maharaja that came from California. He's like really superior power kind of guy.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

I liked how he came from California. Most gurus are like from India. This guy's from California.

SPEAKER_04 51:28

Well, he was Indian from California. Oh, okay. But but during that uh that weekend retreat, he was showing us how to find clouds in the sky, yeah, focus on one cloud, and poof, they were gone. You know, just all you had to do was focus on it.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

Right.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

So after that weekend, I would be sitting in a park looking up and saying, You're next, you're the one, and I would kind of like explode it. So one day someone called me and they said, My sister has they found a mass on the x-ray, they found a spot, and they're gonna be doing a surgery in about a week or 10 days to establish whether it's cancer, it's a tumor, or something. So I closed my eyes and I visualized the x-ray. And the first thing that I thought was, don't the lungs look a lot like clouds? If I could burst a cloud in the sky, I could probably erase it. So I tried to like imagine it, it wouldn't go anywhere. So I took a an eraser from a pen, from a pencil, and I erased it, and I just kept on moving away the dirt until I saw nothing in in the x-ray. And I said, Well, that's the best I could do. I did whatever kind of like I love you, love you, and yeah, off I went. Well, 10 days later, I get a call. The sister goes in for the x-ray, and before they went in, they the guy said there's nothing on the x-ray. I don't know what's wrong with the the guy who took it. Maybe there was a little dirt from his lunch. I have no idea, but we're gonna try just to check.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

That bad burrito coming back, you know. It may be a little bit of the burrito fell on the chart. I don't know. It always does.

SPEAKER_04 53:11

That gooey sauce just drops down. So I know the power of the mind, whether I actually did something or not, whether it's true or not, there's no way of telling. You know, with the energy work, you cannot really like even tomorrow, you're gonna say, Oh, it's really cold here. I don't feel so good. Well, sorry, it's not part of the the protocol to change the weather for you.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Oh, right, right. There's three things I wrote down as you're telling that story about the that one, just working backwards, is there's something about not claiming to healing. Like you did your work, like you were like a conduit. Once you start saying I'm the healer, I feel like that's that's when it stops working.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

I'm a healer.

SPEAKER_02 54:04

I just knew myself. That's like praying for patience.

SPEAKER_04 54:10

So I am a Reiki master because I have my certification. I never tell people I'm a Reiki master because, like a Shigong master or a kung fu master, if I go and say, Oh, I'm gonna get my head smashed, like people who are really dedicated to their art are the ones that should call themselves a master. So I just flow the energy and call it what you want. Yeah, it could be a bad burrito, it could be gaz. Call it whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Yeah, call it whatever you want. And your story is very similar. I'm reading Doug O'Brien's slate of mouth book right now, and he starts out that book, he's talking about this man that went to visit his mom who also had cancer, and the doctors are like, don't get her hopes up, she's done, she's and he's like, I just want to talk to her. And he talks about imagining the immune system like they're sheep in a grass a field, and without those sheep, then the grass becomes over overgrown and out of balance. And just I wonder what would happen if you imagined a little more sheep in your field now, just to take care of that grass and make it look pretty. And just that story, just that visualization, just that whatever, and the cancer went away.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

So so I'm not a sheep man, but I did use Pac-Man.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

Those little guys who go around eating everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like there's a cancer in the middle, just go, and all these little red and yellow and green guys. And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

And then gobble gobble, it's gone. That's interesting. I I think there's something like if we're looking at the science of it, I know we won't ever really know. I think there's something about the mitochondria. And in Star Wars, it's the midi-clorans, the force, and there's something about the mitochondria. There's living symbiotic beings within us that are doing all this work, they're giving us energy. I don't know, that's going down the rabbit hole here.

SPEAKER_04 56:15

So also the mind thinks in pictures. It doesn't, you know, words are not representative of what the problem is.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Right.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

If you see a problem as being a uh an overgrown garden and you see a bunch of sheep eating the grass, it just changes the problem of the overgrown grass into uh tender pastures for for something to grow. So if you change that's basics of NLP, if you change the thinking around a certain issue, the issue has to change to meet the expectations of the of the person looking at it.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

Right. I like that a lot using their metaphor and their imagery to talk to their language, whatever their soul communicates in. Now, about healing. How do we put a price tag on this? Like, okay, someone comes to you, they say, I have cancer, or I've been diagnosed. And then you're like, Well, maybe, you know, you don't know for sure. You know, I can definitely send you some love and I can draw your whatever has cancer on the board and erase it and send you more love and have pack me in either way. I could do all that for you. I just I still don't know for sure. And by the way, that'll be however many hundreds of dollars. Like, how do you put a price tag on something like that?

SPEAKER_04 57:41

So being a hypnotist, I'm not allowed to treat, cure, or diagnose anything.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 57:48

Which is really, in a way, the best thing that could ever happen because I tell people let go of all your expectations. You're gonna come in for a session, you're gonna relax. What is disease? It's a lack of ease. When your thoughts, your mind is shutting off the valves, it creates this ease. And so I'm gonna have you go into a trance, you'll be really calm, you'll be relaxed, and just put out your intention. If you are ready and willing to heal right now, your intention and your higher power is gonna help you through it in the best way possible. I will be flowing the energy, I will be giving you the suggestions, but I cannot make you take them. So if you are angry and the anger is stuck in your liver until you release or forgive that person, you're still angry. I could say now you're confident, but you're still angry. So you have to take some responsibility for that disease. Now, I wouldn't say it so bluntly to them, but something to that effect, because that's my belief is that even with pain, what I really love because we're on Zoom, yeah. Very often when someone says pain, I say, Okay, Ryan, close your eyes. I'm gonna put my hand through the screen and pull out, close your eyes now. Yeah, and this, oh my god, it's gone. Did I really go through the screen? No, it's just I affected their belief to the point where the pain that was there just disappeared.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

I don't know, man. I kind of think you did. I think like your soul may have like you had that intention, and maybe your soul or spirit like reached out because distance, time, it's all like an illusion, man, right? So we're talking real time, miles away. Like, how does that work, right? It goes through the airwaves. We're talking faster than the speed of sound, we're talking faster than the speed of light, we're engaging a real-time conversation faster than any of these things. Like, if we just yell really, really loud, it would take you a little bit of time in order for you to hear me, and yet you can hear me instantaneously through vibrations and sound waves and whatever else is out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Yeah, but I think space is also perceptual. Yeah, that there are studies of people bending time, right? Even now, one of my clients, she's uh West Virginia, I think. Her name's Pam, and she needed an MRI, you know, going into that tunnel, not being able to move for three years, three, three, three hours. Yeah, so I took her into a hypnosis session and I put into her mind that every hour will feel like only one minute. And her biggest fear is I can't use a washroom for three hours, there's no way I'm gonna survive that. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

I was thinking, oh, I need a catheter for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:53

But she said it was like in and out because she actually, when she went in, the anchor that I put in there, there was no time, like every breath would be reduced to one second, and by the time she took a hundred breaths, it's like eight minutes in and out and done.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

That was that was my follow. What was the anchor? Her breath.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:20

I can't remember. I know sometimes I anchor it three fingers, sometimes to the heartbeat, okay, sometimes to this uh sound of uh her snoring. I don't know, like depends on what I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Oh, yes, yes. I wrote down so many things. I love this. Is there anything in particular that's calling to you right now to speak on? Like, what's a mystery of the universe you like to share with us today?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:52

Mystery of the universe. It's really about what can I do for someone else to make this a world a better place. Because when you give to someone else, you always get back tenfold. So loving someone in their moment of need, you're still loving and you're still getting love back. And really, it's it's really about having a better experience. The number of things I do for my community, and they don't even know about it because it's it's all through the power of mind. Last week I measured what's the energy of my my area, and I asked how far out could I go, and it gave me 70 kilometers, which is about 45 miles. And so I said, Okay, well, that covers quite a bit of the area. Yeah, and so whether there's mass murders in the area or someone intending bad things or crimes or or whatever, even human trafficking, once you raise the energy of that area, it makes it a much better area for everybody who's involved.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

Yeah, you're absolutely on point. And you mentioned Joseph Spencer before, and he's done that study. I think he even referred to it where people would be outside. I remember he did one with Washington, DC, where he was in Philadelphia or somewhere with a group of people sending that love and good intention towards DC, and during that period of time the crime rate dropped, violence went down, murders.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

Yeah, we'll have to get a group of people also because you know what? Every place on the planet needs more.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:32

Right. Yeah. I think part of it is the fascination of just studying it. Yes, we could send it to the whole world. I like how you ask your whatever you ask, I don't know, the universe or whatever, you're like, what can I do? How far out can I go? And it's like you go 75 kilometers, so whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:51

Like Yeah, so so I really care about children and also uh the elderly because they're they're the most vulnerable part of our society. So I I regularly go and ask this hospital, what's the energy of this hospital? And there's a lot of crap that goes on that we don't know about, right? Especially when people leave their energy, their fears, their pains, and everything on the bed that you're gonna come onto an hour later. And so I I regularly clear that schools, we hear about mass shootings, and whoever's um the attacker is always someone who's in pain. So if you could clear the area and say, please put that bubble protection, yeah. Hopefully that person changes his mind. But if he goes and hurts someone, it's himself and not the rest of the area. So if I could only work on 45 kilometers, 70 miles, whatever, that's that's more than enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:54

Yeah, that's that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. And now, usually or sometimes when we have hypnotists on, I'll ask if they want to do a hypnotic gift. And you mentioned uh doing an amazing gift, and that was to give a free session. So, what are the parameters behind that for anyone that's listening?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:13

Yeah, so I I don't want you to call me in 12 years, as I've done Ryan before.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

Yeah, you'll be in that million-dollar retreat then.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:20

Yeah, yeah, but right now we're April 10th, so next three months, which is May, June, July till July 10th. Anybody who wants to have a free session with me, I'd be more than happy to do an hour. Or if you want to talk or discuss, I'll I'll put a link for a complimentary session. I'll I'll send it to Ryan, he'll put it into the uh description. Yeah, and I'd be happy to honor that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:50

Beautiful, beautiful. And any last words? Like if you had a moment right now to speak to the whole world, what would you tell them?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:02

That things are okay. You know, from my perspective, when you look through a microscope, you'll see things. But when you look from a bigger perspective, everything is working out and everything will come back to balance. So don't worry so much. Everything is working out.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

Beautiful, man. Thank you so much, Alan, for being here. I really appreciated our time together. I look forward to working with you in the future. And then I'll put in the description about what I felt at uh 10 30 11 tomorrow and any results to see if I noticed myself going from 8,000, hopefully all the way up to 40, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:47

Yeah, I'll I'll have to put it on my calendar. Short memory sometimes, but I'll do that for us.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

I'll remind you if it's like if it's like at uh 10 50 and then you were like 10 minutes ago, and I haven't felt like working on it, working on it.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:59

Give me 10 minutes. All right, so much, and thank you everyone for watching.