CLA President Gavin Lane sits down with Julia Aglionby, Director of the Foundation for Common Land, to discuss the critical challenges facing England's upland farmers. Julia shares insights from 25+ years of living and farming in the Eden Valley, exploring why government policy struggles to support these vital landscapes.

Topics include funding shortfalls in environmental schemes, the invisible contributions of upland communities, balancing conservation with food production, and managing the pressures of 20 million annual visitors to areas like the Lake District. A must-listen for anyone interested in rural policy, sustainable farming, and the future of Britain's treasured upland landscapes.