The Film Every Adoptee Should Know About

Most movies treat adoption, donor conception, or DNA discoveries as a plot twist. Then the credits roll. But for the people living these stories, that's when life actually begins.

Writer and director Jason Mullis wanted to tell a different kind of story. Before writing Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, he spent months listening to adoptees, donor-conceived people, late-discovery adoptees, NPEs, and others whose lives had been shaped by family secrets and unexpected DNA discoveries.

The result is a film that doesn't simply ask, "Who are your biological parents?"

It asks the much harder question: Who are you after the truth changes everything?

In this episode, Jason joins Corey and Kendall to discuss:

•  Why authentic representation mattered from the very beginning 
•  What he learned from the adoption and DNA-discovery communities 
•  The responsibility of telling someone else's story 
•  Why identity can be more powerful than any fictional plot twist 
•  How family secrets continue to shape generations 
•  What he hopes audiences take away from Myth of the Ghost Kingdom

Whether you're adopted, donor conceived, an NPE, or simply someone who's ever questioned where you belong, this conversation is a reminder that the most compelling stories are the true ones.

About Jason Mullis

Jason Mullis is the writer and director of Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, an independent feature film that follows a woman who discovers as an adult that she was adopted and begins searching for the truth about her identity. The film was developed with extensive input from members of the adoption and DNA-discovery communities, bringing an uncommon level of authenticity to a story about family, identity, and belonging.

Transcript

Kendall 0:00

Welcome back to Family Twist. Imagine discovering as an adult that the family story you've believed your entire life isn't true. That's the premise of Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, a powerful independent film that follows a woman who discovers she was adopted and sets out to discover the truth about who she really is. But unlike so many movies that use adoption or DNA surprises as a plot device, this one stays with the emotional aftermath, the questions, the identity shift, the complicated search for answers. Today's guest is the film's writer and director, Jason Mullis. Before he ever wrote the screenplay, Jason spent months listening to Adoptees and Late Discovery Adoptees to make sure that he got it right. In this conversation, Corey and Jason talk about why so many people have experienced a DNA surprise, say they always felt different long before they knew the truth. The responsibility of telling someone else's story with authenticity and why identity can be every bit as powerful as any Hollywood plot twist. And if you're a horror fan like we are, you'll also hear us explore why this subject could make for an incredible psychological horror film without ever losing sight of the humanity at its center. Here's our conversation with Jason Mullis.

Corey 1:19

Hello, Jason, welcome to Family Twist. Hi, thanks for having me. Kendall recorded an episode a few months ago with a late Discovery adoptee named Keith Sherillo. And I and he talked about the movie, and so I just kind of wanted to give you a little bit of a synopsis of what he said because he really wanted to make sure that the movie was mentioned in his episode. So Keith says, Myth of the Ghost Kingdom is about a late Discovery Adoptee. And even though it's a fictional film, it captures the experience so authentically. You can tell the filmmakers did their research. I watched it three times before it was released, and now that it's on Amazon Prime and Apple TV, I want as many people as possible to see it because it truly reflects what so many of us have lived.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

That's a huge relief. I definitely want to follow up with you and get that person's name and write them a nice thank you. Because as you can imagine, when you're thinking about doing a movie like this and it hasn't been your personal experience, you've got to be really careful. You've got to hold, at least I feel like you have to hold a strong responsibility to be authentic. And as we've promoted the movie, there has been some skepticism from the community, which I encourage. I think generally speaking, what I'm trying to do with indie movies is tell stories from the world view of someone who's underrepresented. And when I first started researching the project, over and over again, people talked about how specifically for late discovery, I didn't really ever consider a narrative besides late discovery how underrepresented the show. Like we're often just kind of a plot point in a TV show, and it never really scratches the surface. Obviously, I want to make a good movie, but that was the top priority to me was we need to make sure someone who's experienced this feels like we have at least made a huge amount of effort to make it authentic. And, you know, the way that I did that, and I want to thank you and your partner, was listening to a lot of podcasts. I tried to cast and hire actors and crew that have experienced it. We were lucky enough to have a couple of people involved that could talk about it at lengths. I believe you're a writer as well, correct? I am, yes. And so, you know, you and I probably have a similar experience where we're cornered at a cocktail party and someone says, I have this great idea for a book or this great idea for a screenplay. And my experience, I don't know if they're the same for fiction writing. Most of the time I'm presented with what someone thinks is a really unique plot twist, but it doesn't have like a worldview. And it's really, really focused on plot. The thing that sticks out to me whether you're talking about Family Twists or some of the other podcasts. The people who are on there know their story so well based on thinking about it and knowing the most compelling elements to it, and they're so authentic. And by the way, I listened to your most recent podcast. Julie was so supportive of the movie when we released it, and it was just such serendipity to come on earlier this week and see. I was like, this person's sounds familiar. And look at yeah, and someone who embraced us with open arms and just her story, so compelling. The first time I'd heard her talk about it, I'd I read some of her reading.

Corey 4:45

I totally understand why there would be some skepticism from the community about a fiction. You're right, because they you know they they've been burned before, right? But I I love hearing that about Julie.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

The danger of cinema, in my opinion, and I do believe we're in a bit of a recession, is to become very gimmicky and not, you know, use that as a plot point or or say that someone is either adopted or late discovery and not really ever diving into that and then making it an action movie or or so on and so forth. And it, you know, it it's something that, you know, it doesn't matter whether you're talking about Goose Kingdom or something I do in the future, it to me, you owe any community you're telling a story about the the responsibility of being credible and honoring them, if that makes sense.

Corey 5:37

And one of the things that Kendall and I have been talking about, and of course, I'm sure you're the same way, you got you know, like 18 projects in different stages of development going at the same time. But because we're such huge horror movie fans and we've got our you know our horror heels podcast, we've kind of been like brainstorming ideas between each other, like what about a horror movie with from an adoptee angle? You know, that would be as realistic as you know, the the truth, the story, but how do we tie horror into that? And so we got actually an idea that I think is pretty solid that I'll just leave it at that.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

I'd love to talk to you about it because it's interesting that you mentioned that because specifically when I was researching it, I don't think the average person understands the psychological experience. Had it been my experience, I think I would have felt comfortable pushing it into the territory of straight ahead psychological thriller or horror. And Myth was attempting to do a drama or a psychological drama with horror grammar, if you will. And if you've seen a movie like The Humans, The Humans is a brilliant example of using horror grammar, but it's not actually a horror movie. And I think the more you start thinking about that, I'd love to see what you've developed. I think that as long as you can tell yourself you're being authentic about the character, the genre doesn't matter, right?

Corey 7:02

Well, we've had you know dozens of adoptees and NPEs and donor-conceive people on the podcast. And one of the common things that you hear is I always felt different. I always felt a little bit off, but I couldn't explain exactly why. Why do you think so many people experienced that feeling way before they even find out the truth?

SPEAKER_02 7:20

When I found the Tom's Ghost Kingdoms, that's when I knew that I had a concept that would would be very helpful to people to understand what the scene was like. Are you familiar with Peggy and Lipton? The name sounds familiar, but I believe it's Libdon who talked about Dafties when when they're taken away from their mother at birth, there's there's this permanent wound that they're not even necessarily in touch with. You know, but it's there.

unknown 7:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Right? The primal wound, yeah. Now uh, you know, a person who's gone through a more traditional prog process with adoption and their adoptive parents have been transparent and so on and so forth, they still have the wound, right? Yeah, but it's but I guess you know it's hard to say how much of a shock is it when you grow up knowing, right? But I've heard what you said over and over again with every podcast where it was just too constant. It was like, I always knew. And then one of the actresses, Linnea, uh, who has a role in the movie, she is late discovery, and she's like, Oh, yes, I knew I she was generous enough to sit and talk with me a couple of days about making sure this was authentic. And I said, you know, I keep hearing you always know. And she said, I always knew that she didn't know exactly, but she always knew something was off, you know. And from what I've read and seen, it's like 95% of the time. You think that's accurate?

Corey 8:56

I know a lot of our guests have talked about after the discovery, this sense of losing their identity, losing who they thought they were. And I know that's that's a theme that you explore in the movie. Can you talk a little bit about why that was important?

SPEAKER_02 9:10

So this is the cenophile portion of the interview. I'm a huge fan of a Polish filmmaker. His name is Christoph Kyslewski. In the 90s, he did a trilogy called Three Colors, Blue, White, and Red. It's supposed to represent the French flag. And the first one stars Julie Benoit, and it's specifically about identity. And so when I was thinking about what I was going to do at the time, I knew that I really wanted to do an identity piece. And again, I didn't start with late discovery, right? I read a couple of articles on I think it was in 2019, I read an article where 10% of the people who were going on to 23 and mere ancestry were discovering that, oh, I have this half-first cousin, or oh, this is telling me this is my dad. But again, it's not always the parent, the biological mom or dad, but they're seeing that you know their family tree is not, you know, 100% what people are talking about at Christmas time, right? Right. And, you know, that was a it clicked with me like this is as big as identity gets, right? That you're a full-grown person, you know, and in some ways you've kind of begun to take for granted your identity, right? Because you've lived in this family for so long, and then you realize, wait a minute, half of this is completely fabricated or constructed, right? And so when when I had that kind of eureka moment that, you know, if you want to be something about identity, if you want to this, this is a perfect narrative. And and again, we were we were always planning it to be low budget. And, you know, that's the thing about something like Myth of the Ghost Kingdom. It's this tension that someone's feeling that it doesn't take a lot of, I knew I didn't need a Marvel movie budget to portray it, right? And so it just seemed like if we can figure out the key scenarios that these people go through consistently that are almost universal to them and script it that way, we might really have something.

Corey 11:29

I know a lot of the folks that we've talked to, even after they've maybe they've discovered their biological family and they've formed relationships with them and learned more about their history, there's still this question in the back of their mind of who am I? Who am I really? How did you want the audience to sit with that concept?

SPEAKER_02 11:51

So that's a really good question. And I think I would always lean more on what consistently you hear from someone who's experienced that is, you know, they finally have some answers, but it doesn't make things perfect, it doesn't make you feel whole, right? And it was very important to me that the conclusion, you know, again, reverting back to what we talked about initially, I think the thing that a lot of people struggle with when they see adoption portrayed in media, whether it be a movie or anything else, is this almost this light touch that everything's gonna work out as the movie's ending, right? And I wanted, you know, it's like I think the best quote I ever heard from someone who's a late discovery was that when you connect, it's great, but you know, working your way into their life is complicated. It's it's like you're invited to the party, but you have to bring your own chair. You know, it's it's it's not perfect. What I kept seeing in terms of the narrative was this strong desire to have question answers, right? And then you have a reunion that can go horribly wrong, right? But sometimes even in the best case scenario, the reunion is just life-changing. But then things, you know, the relationship will take work and it can get awkward, right? So we were very careful about that, not to suggest that this is this perfect happing ending for someone and now she feels whole.

Corey 13:33

Right?

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Yeah.

Corey 13:35

When you were doing your research for this, what were the surprising things about adoptees? Not necessarily just those who found out later in life, but just adoptees in general and adoption. Was there anything that was kind of shocking for you?

SPEAKER_02 13:48

The biggest shock to me was how the absurdity oftentimes the discovery was. Where, you know, from what I've read, and again, I want to be careful, I don't have this statistics, but reading articles, listening to podcasts, you know, someone might find out at a funeral. You know, referencing your other podcast again in terms of horror, you know, horror often, or the thriller's on her is often about someone realizing that things aren't what they seem, right? I was very, very careful not to make the discovery overly dramatic, but it it plays out, I mean, in so many different ways, like I said, at a public event, or they stumble upon, you know, documentation. Or I remember reading about someone saying that when he was an adolescent, like at 19, and he was having issues with stress, his doctor just blurted out to him, Do you think it might be because you're adopted? He'd never had a discussion with his parents about it. So seeing that over and over again, we knew we wanted to nail that moment and make it subtle, as well as make sure we were being authentic about the rest of the family. The person who's mainly helping the protagonist in Method of Ghost Kingdom is an aunt named Aunt Tracy, and she has to confess look, I never thought this was right, but it was my business. I had to play along with the game. This is the narrative your mother wanted. You're your mother's child, and despite the fact that I didn't think this was the right way to do it, I didn't have a choice.

Corey 15:33

Well, Jason, as a listener to the podcast, I'm sure you've heard our tagline, which is family secrets are the ultimate plot twist. Correct. As an outsider looking in and knowing more now than you did before you started this project, why do you think families keep these secrets for decades, even if they believe they're rooted in love or good intentions?

SPEAKER_02 15:52

In terms of the family dynamic, it depends. I think that there's another podcast, I believe it's about late discovery, which is called Sex Lies and the Truth. And one of the things that they laid out, which I do think is probably accurate, generally speaking, when the adoption is hidden, somewhere in the dynamic is someone who would probably be described as narcissistic. And it's all about their pride and how they, you know, want the story to be, and so on and so forth. But again, when you talk about, you know, family and how this type of information is transferred, I think a lot of people just assume that someone knows they're adopted, but they are comfortable bringing it up, right? I think that that's the thing about it, that it is an absolutely absurd assumption, but obviously it happens a lot, right? It's just not talked about. I think that when you talk about any dysfunction or toxicity in family, there's always going to be a considerable amount of people ignoring it, right?

Corey 17:05

Or just going along. So you mentioned earlier, you know, that it's it's not always easy making an independent film like this. And I know that there are a lot of filmmakers have to make a lot of difficult decisions, you know, when they're working with a limited budget. Was there an aspect of the story or a scene or something that you really thought I've got to keep this in no matter what?

SPEAKER_02 17:25

In Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, Abby, the protagonist, the the parent is deceased. I got a lot of criticism from people who you know claimed, you know, you're you're giving up so much drama by having the mother be deceased. And, you know, I would always say, well, well, I I think that that's one side of it that you know you are giving up in drama, but it's you know, that's where it also gives the protagonist license to explore and to become active. I think that we ultimately made the right choice because I was also really worried about making the adaptive mother the the villain in uppercase, right? Yeah. There was a considerable amount of debate about that, but we landed on it, it makes the most sense that she's deceased. It also, you know, with her being deceased for a couple of years, it makes sense for her, you know, daughter to stumble upon certain things. But more than anything, it was more about is this as authentic as it should be? Is this really accurate to the story that we're trying to tell? Does that make sense?

Corey 18:40

Absolutely. And and I think you made the right decision because it's grounded in reality. I mean, we've I don't know how many times we've heard, you know, people they they get the search of their search angel or whatever, and they get to that discovery and they're gone.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Is it more common for them to search and the person has fallen on average?

Corey 18:59

It depends on the on the age of the person, you know, but a lot of people that are taking these tests now are, you know, in their 50s and 60s. And so, yeah, I mean, it is relatively common. Or, you know, they get a limited amount of time with them. Kendall's birth father just died last month. While we got eight plus years to know him, his health has been his mental health has really been in decline ever since we met him. So it was like we had a very short amount of time where we got to feel like we were bonding with someone who was able to carry on a conversation and tell stories and things like that. So right.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

And for Claire, Kendall was not late as February.

Corey 19:35

He knew okay. He's always known, yeah, always known. But then it was a close adoption in Arkansas, so you know, as much of his adoptive parents would have been encouraging for him to find his birth family, there were little or was not an opportunity until the DNA testing came along.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Right. And I'm glad you bring that up because that was another catalyst. After reading the 23andMe, obviously I researched more, I came to the conclusion of how much shorter the discovery rate. You know, because the first simple things I read about is like, say, in the 90s, you might look for 10 years and get nothing. Whereas now, if Kendall started today, do you think it would have been easier? It would have been just as taken just as long.

Corey 20:20

Oh, I think it would have been definitely easier. Yeah, for sure. But you know, it was also just the same year, you know, happy coincidence that I got Kendall the ancestry test, and his brother Chris's wife Karen got him the ancestry test. It's not on everybody's radar. So I'd say DNA angels do an amazing job, you know, especially if they can find a really robust obituary. I mean, I know people have been able to have success outside of taking a DNA test, but it's definitely challenging. Well, one of the things that just came to mind was, you know, we've had several guests who have found out, you know, late discovery, mom's still alive, the adoptive mom is still alive, you know, or or the birth mother's still alive, and says, I don't want you to find out until after I'm gone. Well, that could be a long time. You know, let's say you're waiting six or seven years, and then you take a test or you do your research and you find out that dad died a year and a half ago.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

There's no way it would be rational, but I do think it would be wild to have someone explain why they decided I don't want you to find out until I'm gone. It it just boggles the mind. But you know, what I can say is once I started talking to people about what we were doing, you know, it the average person doesn't realize how this is every extended family. One of my favorite stories, I was negotiating the Airbnb where we shot uh a considerable chunk of the movie, and the property manager was waiting for an email of mine to come over to Authenticate something and she said, Well, why don't you just tell me about what the movie's about while we're rating? I said, Oh, well, this is a kind of a story about a late discovery adaptee. And she, you know, finds out that she was adopted and she goes on a search to find her birth mother. And the woman on the other end was dead silent. She said, You're not gonna believe this. My husband, two months ago, was approached by a 30-year-old woman who told him, Your girlfriend in high school got pregnant, had a baby, never told you on your daughter. You take for granted how often this has happened, it's just kind of like, oh, that sounds wild. You know, once we started promoting the film film festivals, and we really lucked out in terms of how supportive the overall adoption community has been, and you know, start, you know, meeting them and and because I was very, very naive to the broader politics of adoption until I started, you know, having a one-on-one conversation with advocates to something just you know jaw dropping to discover all of the controversial elements that can be associated with the Italian for somebody.

Corey 23:13

The same for us. I mean, we really because Kendall had such a positive experience, even though he'd lost his parents at at such a young age, that I don't think he was really thinking about the concept of primal wound. And we didn't know about all the controversies related to it. For several years, we'd even talked about adopting because he was felt so positive about adoption in the experience he had that he couldn't fathom us going through a surrogate because why there are there are all these kids out there that they're already here that need a home. And I was, you know, I was one of those babies. But yeah, once we started learning more and more, it's yeah, you're right. Jaw dropping is the perfect word for it.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

It it really is amazing how different each person's experience is with it. You know, obviously, from the podcast you did, he obviously had incredibly loving and transparent adoptive parents. There was a friend of mine that I know had been adopted, not late discovery, that I said, Hey, I want you to read this. I just want to see what you think about it. And this is someone who was adopted who just kind of shrugged and was like, Man, I really don't see why you think this is a compelling story. And I said that, I said, Wow, I'm really surprised. He said, Look, I mean, someone else may have a very different experience. I don't carry a lot of baggage from my stepfather adopting me. And, you know, it it is important to remember that that sometimes happens, but it's probably not the most common experience, right?

Corey 24:43

That definitely leads to my next question. Is that what can you kind of sort of compare and contrast the feedback you've gotten from the adoption community versus people who aren't in the adoption community and maybe don't know anybody close that's gone through that experience?

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Really good question. And, you know, let me answer it in the fashion of just the market and how you, you know, hopefully market the movie to people and get people to watch it and also the adoption communities. What I would say in general about Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, which is very common for an independent sound, is for anyone who hasn't experienced it, it takes a lot to convince them. Often you'll get a lot of back-handed compliments like I really didn't think it was really good. I didn't think it could be so good. And you, you know, you just nod and you you're you're grateful. The claw audience, people who've experienced this. Again, I knew there was an audience, but there have been several interactions that have been really surprising in that you know, before we had finished post-production, there were people emailing the website, where can I watch this? I would have to be like, wow, we're about three months away from festivals, so you can more than welcome to mind, is it a festival? Or I'll let you know when we go into distribution. So there were definitely people hoping within the community that this was a story that they could identify with and hoping that it would be authentic. And for the most part, you never know what people are not telling you. But as far as I've seen, we have gotten mostly very, very positive responses. What, as I said in the beginning, has happened a few times, which I fully support is skepticism. Why are you making this movie? What business do you have? I encourage those questions for any movie like this that is taking someone's story and making it into a narratives. Are we being authentic? And and you know, I I stand by this. You know, we can get 200 positive reviews, but for someone who feels like this is on is an authentic, I I want to hear about it. This is a psychological drama, and drama movies right now are not, generally speaking, doing very well. And I did not know that going in to well, that's just kind of a trend that's been taking place the past two or three years. So someone who hasn't experienced this, plus the fact that it's a drama, we were not prepared for how hard it's gonna sell that.

Corey 27:14

Does that make sense? For sure. And and I know you're not a soothsayer, but had you been thinking about this a couple of years ago, maybe going the independent horror route might have been a good idea because that's just exploding, right? I mean, we're seeing two of the biggest movies of the year are or made for a million dollars or less. And right.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

And again, like I said, I imagine what that would be like, but I also wanted to leave room for someone who's really led it. And I do think that there is a great horror version of that or a full ahead. I believe there is, I do believe there is an Irish film that's similar, that's a thriller, that I'm not positive I haven't seen.

Corey 27:57

There are people that are having this discovery today, probably literally like right now, as we're having this conversation, and they're running the gamut of emotions, they're pissed, they're scared. What would you like that person to take away from Myth of the Ghost Kingdom?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

I think the danger, and you probably know this from your partner's experience and going through it, like you definitely want to, whatever the emotions be, to live with them and and think about why am I angry. I think it's perfectly appropriate to be angry. I think that, you know, that's the interesting thing about anger though. Again, to reference your horror podcast, is you know, underneath anger, there's often shame or hurt, right? And that's really the way a lot of people communicate grief. It's there. The main thing I would say is, you know, if you are angry, that seems perfectly appropriate, but take the time to take care of yourself and unlock what's underneath this anger, right?

Corey 29:06

Where can listeners watch the movie today?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

We are available for rental and purchase on Apple TV and Amazon Prime, and it is currently free with ads for Prime Music. We're doing better than expected, but I think that as the summer progresses, we will probably expand to Tubi and a couple of other distribution channels. But so far, it's done so well, we're just gonna keep it pretty simple.

Corey 29:36

So, Jason, as a listener, you probably know the last question that we typically ask on the show. When you were doing your research or even making the movie, was there a musical artist or song that really helped you get through the process? And I can see guitars in the background, so I know you must have a love of music.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

The protagonist in Myth of the Ghost Kingdom becomes a caregiver to take care of her mother. She drops out of school and isn't comfortable, you know, going back to college, she just stumbles in to be a caregiving. And as the movie opens, she's considering going back to school, but simultaneously finally getting to the unpleasantry of you know organizing her mom's estate. At that point, it was really focused on the caregiver aspect of the protagonist. And the album that I listened to over and over again was Hospice by any rock band, The Antlers. And it's it's just a beautiful album. I don't know how popular it is, but it tells the story of the relationship between a caregiver and someone who is slowly dying. And, you know, I just had it on repeat for a good six months, or anytime I was in the car. And as a matter of fact, when the score was composed, for most of the movie, it was a complete departure that, but for the big scene where she finds her adaptation paper as like, I need you to listen to this album. And Skyborden, the composer, just absolutely nailed it. He he really got close to the kind of feeling that I got from listening to hospitals.

Corey 31:17

Jason, you know, thank you so much for making this movie. I hope it continues to do, or Kenel and I both hope it continues to do well now that it's out there. We definitely need more fictional representation of the community in a in a realistic, honest way. So thank you for helping lead that charge.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Thank you so much. And thank you for having me. And it it honestly, you know, you you hear this and it sounds dismissive or can, but it really has been an honor. And especially after connecting with the community at festivals and on social media, it really has been an honor to see the film be received so well.

Corey 31:56

But thank you for having me on the podcast. Great podcast. Of course. We definitely don't take that lightly. Kendall has said this several times in the podcast. He had no idea, and I don't think I had any idea either, how much we both needed this. And so that's been really one of the beautiful things about this experience is getting to know all of these different people and making new friends, like instantly making new friends in the span of half an hour, 45 minutes. That's not uh taken lightly. It's an incredibly generous and supportive community for sure.

Kendall 32:26

Jason, thank you for taking the time to listen to Family Twist before you decided to tell this story. One thing from this conversation that stands out is that you never approached adoption or late discovery as a gimmick. You treated it as what it actually is: an identity earthquake. And for so many people listening today, that's exactly what it feels like. Whether you're an adoptee, an MPP, donor conceived, or someone who loves a person whose family story suddenly changed because of DNA. I hope this episode reminds you that your experiences deserve thoughtful, honest representation. If you'd like to watch Myth of the Ghost Kingdom, it's available on Amazon Prime and Apple TV, and we encourage you to check it out. If this conversation resonated with you, please subscribe, leave us a review, and share this episode with someone who has ever looked in the mirror and wonder where they really came from. Because the more these stories are told with honesty and compassion, the less alone people have to feel. And remember, family secrets are the ultimate plot twist. The Family Twist podcast is produced by Mosaic Multimedia LLC.