16 - Hot Takes Pt. 2: Opinions Are Easy, Grace Is Hard

We’re back with another round of hot takes, and this time we’re going a little deeper.

From kindness, or the lack of it on social media, to parenting, busyness, tipping culture, marriage dynamics, and letting kids struggle, we’re sharing honest opinions while reminding ourselves these are just that, opinions.

We kick things off with James 1:19 and a simple truth. Hot takes are easy, but grace is harder.

This episode is a mix of conviction and conversation about choosing kindness, not wearing busy as a badge of honor, raising capable kids, and keeping perspective in our relationships.

At the end of the day, it all comes back to this. We’re not called to be perfect. We’re called to love people well.

Let’s talk about it.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello. Welcome back to 27 Good. I'm Patty. I'm Amy. Okay. So we had some responses to our hot takes episode that we thought we'd maybe do one again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

We had so much fun recording it.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

So much fun. And we felt like the last one really we only hit about a lot of tech stuff mainly. Yeah. So I think one thing we want to say right off the bat is these are just our opinions. They're not absolutes. We don't expect, we certainly hope that not everyone thinks the same things we think. We probably won't even agree with everything.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

For sure. Plus, it's fun to talk about the sound. And it is so important, I think, to be able to disagree with someone. So if you disagree with these, that's fine. It's great. Tell us all about it. Yeah, we'd love to hear it. Okay, we're restarting. So we're gonna kick this one off with a Bible verse. It was kind of funny us trying to find one that would tie back to the episode. But it's from James 119, and it says everyone should be quick to listen and slow to speak. Because hot takes are easy, but grace is harder. So we'll see where we end with this. But I just think the key takeaway is gosh, extend grace and love others and remember that it's so easy to mouth off with your opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Yeah. I love it. Okay, so one thing I think that we should start about and laughing about how I worded this to you and how I'm gonna make this sound more PC is Christian people really being quick to post about Christianity on Facebook, making sure everybody knows they go to church. We're probably just as guilty of this, but then just not being kind humans. Yeah. And I was actually reflecting on it a little bit this afternoon, thinking about this podcast of well, okay, full transparency to the podcast community. I've stopped reading the Bible. Yeah, I wondered if you're failing at discipline, failing at discipline with the Bible reading, completely quit. And then when I quit, I just decided it was not bringing me any joy whatsoever. And it certainly wasn't making me feel closer to God. It felt like a homework assignment. It was, I don't know, and maybe I was doing it just to prove I could do it, which is not really the prideful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not the point. Yeah. And so I thought, well, I will just pick up a Bible study. Bible app was what I was thinking, probably. And I'll just read, you know, I don't know, there's a lot of things leading up to Easter I could do. Um the Bible app has some really great things that are just like three or five day plans, like super easy. And then I haven't even done that. And but kind of in my reflection, and it goes along this is Hang on, before we move from this though, I just think it is okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Yeah. I feel like what can happen is we get into this routine of we almost make our spiritual time or whatever we're doing, reading the Bible, as we make it an idol. And so I think if it's no longer like it should be something you look forward to is like spending time with God and being in the word, whatever way that looks. So I think it's fine that you didn't want to do the Bible plan anymore.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah, I know. And I don't know, it's just this, it's this whole idea of are we like what's the point of reading the Bible? Am I doing it just to be like, I read the Bible, I'm a better Christian, you know, or is it to really truly become a better Christian or become closer, even more so than becoming a better Christian, become closer to God or Jesus, right? And so I just really haven't even done it, but I thought, gosh, well, what would God want? Of course, He wants us reading the Bible, of course, and want it wants us in the Word, but just be a kind human, just be kind to others, you know, that live like Jesus does.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

He tells us, do you want to others as you want done to you?

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Exactly. Yeah. And I think that a lot of the times the opposite can be true. We know a lot of people who really talk about going to church and being in Bible studies and doing all these things, and then they can just not be very nice.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Yeah. Like you are the example if you say, I'm a Christian, and then you act mean and nasty, is what people think of the church and of Christianity.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

And then even worse than just being mean and nasty, blasting things on social media and being so mean and nasty. And it's even worse because you can have a be in a bad mood and maybe bite it back at somebody in person, but you put something out there on social media, it's not going away. People remember that. People screenshot that. Yeah. That's my hot take.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

I think my hot take piling on on this is that there's seriously 90%, maybe I'll say 90% of the time, but never a time that it's acceptable to be mean and nasty to anyone. I know. You know what I mean? Even if you're mad, especially, oh my gosh, like to customer service people, or someone screws up like your order at a restaurant. Everyone has a human.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Yeah, we talked that was how we started this podcast, our first episode. We talked about people in the restaurant. Like they didn't mess up your order on purpose.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

No one's trying to mess stuff up. I think it is still fine to hold people accountable and expect whatever the relationship is of that person, expect you know what I mean? Like expect excellence or great, whatever the stuff is. Well, you don't have to be a jerk.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

Like the workplace critiquing something.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Not really being mean in your comments.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

But not doing it in such a mean way, like being like, this is how we need to do this next time to make this work better for the team. Well, and is a different way of just being nasty.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

I also think it is kind to be clear. And so I don't think I think there's a difference between being kind and being nice. I think kind is whatever is best for that person and loving that person well versus nice is, I don't know, it more superficial issues.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Well, and I think this falls into our all our Enneagram stuff. Gosh, if you're in a workplace where you work really closely with people and have to have relationships with people that are different than you, understanding kind of where they come from is such an easy way of then extending grace to them. Being able to be kind to them. They might act differently than you would in a situation or do something different than you would in a situation, but gosh, think of this came from probably a good place. It's just this is what they're good at or what they know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Yep. I have a coworker who hates confrontation. It's so hard for them. And I always have to remember that because I feel like that's a muscle that I've grown since working at RareWork. It's been, I think, a good thing to just be able to address things head on with kindness, not being mean. And so when he lets things slide, I'm like, oh yeah, that's because you hate this. It makes you so uncomfortable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Or I'd probably be mad if I didn't know that about him. You'd have to Right. Like, why didn't you bring this up? Why didn't we discuss this? Yeah. Yeah. So that's my first hot take is people should just be kinder, especially us Christians. We're out there going to church, we're doing the things, but then we turn around and can just be so mean and just yeah, really trying to be kinder.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Gosh, this is also so good for us to hear too. Of just even I think it is even like our thoughts too, right? Taking all of that captive. And so I for sure have room to go there. I feel like I am generally nice, like kind always most of the time. Yeah, you are. But but then in the back of your mind, you're like, that person's such a jerk. That bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think one of mine is busy is not a badge of honor. You are not like the best because you are so busy and so stressed, it actually sounds terrible. So stop living your life that way unless it brings you joy.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

And then when you're busy, and that's the thing. If it brings you joy, certainly. But if you're busy and then you're just gonna complain to everyone around you about how busy you are, right? Then yes, it's just let's back it up a little bit. Yeah. We unfortunately are just in a time where the busier the better, it seems like.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

What's so funny is I just feel so removed from that. I think maybe because I'm I mean same girl. Yeah, I'm just a no.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

No thanks. I am a on the couch on a Friday night. On the couch on any night, really. Yeah, I think slowing down doesn't mean you're lazy, right? I think that that's something that people really can often think is if you're slowing down or you're taking a break or you're taking a breather, you're not lazy.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

I think it's whatever are like I agree. You're not lazy. I think it is what you're prioritizing. And I think if you were someone who just has to do something every day and you really are living a good life and you're not stressed, that's great. I think the majority of people are probably not that way. And while we're on this topic, I think we're burning out our kids by having them involved in everything all the time.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

All yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

They go to school all day and then they're in sports all night. And if you're doing weekend sports stuff, it just never ends.

unknown 7:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

I think maybe we talked about this before.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

We have, yeah. Because I said Charlie Gortner is my busybud and he is right now in so many different things. Yeah. It seems work for him, but I will say, while it works for him, I have to remind him of okay, so say Saturday morning he has to be somewhere by 6 a.m. We aren't doing anything on Friday night. You are on the couch, we're watching a movie, we're hanging as a family. You have to, and as the mom, we have to be the ones to be like, no, you're not making a a plan with a friend. You just aren't. We have to at some point just be at home and be quiet and just be together. Yeah. And so I think, yeah, while he is ha does have the busiest schedule, wherever there's a window, I'm like, we're leaving that window open. We aren't making, we're not packing it full. We can have to, we're gonna have to say no to some things.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Yeah, I do think there's always a trade-off. And I think it's so easy to all right. I think you should always leave a generous tip, no matter what the service was. Yeah, but were you a server? Yes. Same with me. So that's why we think that. But also, I think it's gosh, I don't know how to describe it. I think it's if a grown man is like that waitress didn't do a good job.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

It's listen, one time I was working at Longhorn, we had iced tea, sweet tea and unsweetened. And this man came in and I went over to his table. I think he maybe was by himself, at least in my memory, he was. And he said, Every time I come here, they screw this up. I want an iced tea and I don't want a lemon in it. And this is your test because iced teas just automatically come with lemon. Yeah, we you just you throw a lemon in it, at least there it was. I'm got all these other tables, I do all these things, I go get him as drinking and bring it back. As I'm handing it to him, I realize there's a lemon in it. And I right away was like, oh my gosh, oh no. And I like grabbed it, walked away, and got him a new one. But he right away had me all stressed. I know, but for somebody, I always think of that story of somebody to come in and right away, he was right away ready to be like, You're gonna mess this up. This is your test. Yes, you're not gonna. If I brought the lemon, couldn't he have just scooped it out? Is he allergic? Well, you'll probably have to be. Come on, just he was not who's allergic to lemon.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I see you always find what you're looking for. Did you say that on the last one too? Like you're looking for just a reasonable thing. He came in bad. Yeah, then you're gonna find it.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Yeah, and he probably left me. The worst when you were a waitress, don't you remember, is change. Yeah, anybody does that anymore?

SPEAKER_01 10:07

I don't know. I would be curious if that because everyone's not there has this table. I worked at Texas Road, Texas Roadhouse. Just like Longhorn. Yeah, just like Longhorn. And there was this table. Isn't it funny how you remember the bad ones? I remember two good ones. One order was like a family of eight, and I was like, Where's their food? And 20 minutes later, and I forgot you didn't. And then you're like, man, the kitchen's really behind. I was I just went and confessed, I was like, I'm so sorry. Here's some apps on the house, you know, on the fly, but my bad. But anyways, this other family, just like nothing was right for them, and then they left me under a dollar and change, and it was wow, thanks so much. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Maybe you remember some of that, but it doesn't really make or break your night. You still made probably big that night.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, you're just you had one table maybe and yeah, which Texas Roadhouse, they only you only have three tables, four max, which I felt like was it just gonna be an age.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Yeah. I feel the same way. I think, but what about tipping at places that don't Oh yeah, sure house.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

I don't I know I don't feel I feel like I do every other time. Yeah. And I never do a 20%. It's like a dollar, a dollar, which I don't know if that percentage would be probably 10. Yeah, probably based on what you get. Yeah, but yeah. I kind of feel like if they are not, if I'm not sitting down and they're bringing something, it feels like everywhere is tips, which I love, but I'll just feel necessary.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

It seems it's just automatic on those machines that they just have the thing for tip. I think it's have you ever asked? I've asked before, do you actually get these tips? Oh no. Because I always wonder that is it actually going to the people that are on ships?

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Right?

unknown 11:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

I bet it goes into a big pot and a split, just like eating, not right. One time the person said no, and she didn't even know where the tips went.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Her house was just like putting in their pocket.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

It wasn't your house, it was somewhere else. But though the girl said, I don't even know where those that money goes. So then when that happened, I realized I should be asking this more often. Yeah, right. But are you getting these tips that I'm if I put a dollar here, or is it better off to put like the dollar in the jar? Right? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

But that is something I want to get better at is carrying cash, just having cash more.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Well, when your kids start playing sports, you'll have it because concessions. Yeah. And just, well, Charlie needed money today. He went down to um Columbus today during he didn't miss school for beef expo. He went for livestock judging and he needed money for lunch. I feel like I have to get cash out every week because there's always something. So you'll get better. This one is probably coming from a little bit of a teacher point of view, but also probably a mom. And I think it's okay for our kids to struggle and have a hard time with things and to be inconvenienced. And I'm guilty of it too. I think like when it comes to chores, my kids don't have a chores list they have to do every week. I'd be really curious to know what all our listeners do. But if I want the house cleaned on a day, then it's usually all hands on deck. Certainly spring break's coming up, and everybody's gonna have things to do to get some spring cleaning done. In the summer, and we're home, of course, they always have lists of things to do. They put all their own laundry away, they're in charge of keeping clean their rooms, they keep the playroom clean. But for the most part, I do a lot of the work. And sometimes I think, gosh, they should be working a little bit harder. And then from the teacher side of things, school. I think I think we don't do homework like we used to. I mean, I used to go home and had so much homework and projects and schoolwork to do, and we really don't give the kids a lot. And it's okay if they're a little bit stressed and they have some homework to do. And by about middle school, if there is something that's not going the way they want, I just think encouraging them to talk to the teacher before the parent calls. And it was even hard for me when Charlie was in sixth grade. He had just a couple really minor things. And I'm right down the hall. I could just go down and talk to the teacher and be like, what's going on? You know, what's happening here? But I made him. I had to, we ran through it like a practice little conversation together of, and I had to even say, you might not get the answer you want. And you have to be okay. You can't argue, you have to just you're going down to air your frustrations and you have to be okay. But kids will go home and they will tell a story that is their point of view. And there's probably some truth in it, but probably a little bit. It's just one-sided, yeah. And they're trying to save face, they're middle schoolers, right? And and if it's right when they get home from school, they're exhausted, they're overstimulated, they're all the things. They're walking off the bus and they're mad about something. Maybe check in a couple hours later of what exactly happened here before we're immediately mad at the teacher or something. And this isn't even coming from an experience. But yeah, there's just, and I just think I have a program in my class, a math program, and it's an online program and it's online math practice, and it is hard. My curriculum is pretty hard, and it is challenging, and it is set up for them to be able to do it on their own. They have some ways to ask for hints for sample problems to work through, but it's pretty challenging. And at the beginning of the year, it really is challenging. Now I'd say we're in March, they've got a pretty good hang on the way it works, the way to flow through it, and they know I'm teaching the same thing in my class. So if they get to a point, I don't know what this is. Well, pause a minute. I'm probably gonna go over it in the next couple of days, and then you'll get to. But I've had so many parents say, that's just too hard. That program is too hard. And it's okay for them to struggle a little bit. They'll get their learning, they're you know, and I'm not gonna let them fail. And I don't know. I just think we want better for our kids as parents. We want things to be easier than the way we had them. So I think sometimes we at a fault can then be, I don't know, making things easier for them.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yeah, like too easy.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Yeah, like I just recently thought, should Charlie be doing his own laundry soon? He's eighth grade. Am I gonna do his laundry forever? Yeah, probably. So I just don't want him to be too stressed. I don't want him to have to do his own laundry.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

I would hate for him to have to do that. No, that's a good word. I agree with everything. Patty and I talked about this earlier this week because I'd asked our sitter if she thought Andrew, who is three and a half, should be able to sit through a church service and just sit quietly for the whole time because we went as a family last week and Smith went back to the school, but the boys sat with us and they did fine. But I it's the natural thing of a parent of just like it's not like my intent was I want this to be easy for him, then, but it's just not expecting enough out of them because Jason was like, they should be able to sit here. Yeah. Of course, I have to go be like you and Michelle's opinion before I'm like, oh yeah, Jason. I'm like my baby boys. No, they can't.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

But and what I said was he hasn't gotten a preschool yet. And I do think that'll change. I think he is three and a half, but he's not in preschool yet. Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

But also it's just I've never said that expectation we're not having any toys and you're gonna sit here quietly full time. But I agree with you of all of it. Of we just take I it is actually, I think you're robbing someone if you take the struggle away because they number one, are not learning like perseverance or hard work. Um, and there's so much character that's developed in that. And we're kind of stealing their pride too, I think. Of like, you know, when you do something awesome and it's hard work, but then you're done, whatever that thing is. Right. You don't have that sense of pride if you I worked so hard to get here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I love what you said about Charlie kind of confronting the teacher first. I think that's such a valuable skill. Yeah. For kids, number one, to know, because I think phones for sure have impacted this and probably parents to just doing everything for their kids, but we need to teach them how to have conversations and how to address things to try to get resolution or whatever the thing and look people in the eye and talk to them. And I just love that.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

And less for help. Like if you don't know, like this particular situation, he had he had received a poor grade on a quiz, wanted to know if he could do anything to get that quiz grade up. And that was where I said, if you the answer is no, you have to be okay with that. She doesn't owe you extra points.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

There's another thing, you have to respect elders and leadership. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

And I don't think that means you have to for sure not love them or worship them, but you have to respect what your teacher says. And so in that situation, I said, and I said, if she says no, you have to be okay with it. You can't argue like why you want this grade to be better. Right. I said, and then you have to say, What should I do next time? The whole point is how can I learn from this and grow from this? It is really hard. And that one was a little bit. I mean, I could have just shot an email. I could have just walked right down there and said, can he get extra credit? But I was okay with the grade. I mean, it's I don't, they don't have to be perfect. I was kind of, you can do bad every once in a while. Like because I, I don't know, probably because I am a teacher. This is where we learn. Like we learn, and middle school is the learning years. Get that under your belt now of how to get through some of those hard things and how to ask for help and how to learn how to study because it's just gonna get a little bit harder by high school and college.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Gosh, that was so good. Plus, in the workplace, at least for me, and you probably feel this way too, but like humility is such a good quality. Right. You want someone who is willing to say, Oh, I messed this up. Can you help me? Versus Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

So I think a lot of our listeners have little kids like your age, and I just think that of let them sit and let them be a little uncomfortable. But then as they get older and get into school, kind of trust the process the teachers have because we do have, we're not just trying to make them struggle for nothing, right? But trust a little bit of that and just let them kind of learn and let them, yeah, struggle through some stuff. I'm a huge advocate of what the teacher says first. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's great. I do like that yeah, you're super supportive, even of the kids' preschool teachers.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

You really are just the best.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

Can you imagine working there?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

I love my kids, but can you imagine like 20 preschool I teach middle schoolers, so no. I could not. I mean, I can't imagine, but I would quit maybe like.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

I feel like I have friends that are teachers, obviously. Yeah, family or teachers. And so I just think I have that perspective. And it's just it's not too dissimilar, I think, in like my work too. It's like you work your hiny off and then like a client calls all mad, but they didn't even act which doesn't really happen that often. Yeah. But it's like you didn't even ask what happened. Like parents just can attack teachers sometimes. Yeah. The whole school system or something. And it's just maybe seek the information first.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Right. And this truly isn't this hot take isn't coming from a personal experience. It's just I'm 20 years in, maybe about 20. And I just feel like I've been doing this long enough that I can just say, it's okay. These kids, middle schoolers are so much stronger and so much more willing than I think we realize. When and I'm a mom of middle schoolers, and actually, when Charlie became a sixth grader, I remember thinking, like, oh my gosh, he's that old. He's that old that because I had pretty high expectations for my kids. They're little mini adults, they're really great people. And I couldn't believe that my own child was there. So I can see that as a mom of maybe not recognizing how really capable they are as middle schoolers because they still seem like they're your little kids that they just left elementary school. How could we already be expecting these things from them?

SPEAKER_01 20:56

I yeah, I think all the same is true for little kids too. They're just capable of so much more. My dad, I came from the house that never took away this struggle ever. And a funny story is I was in high school, I bet, like freshman or sophomore, and I wanted a blackberry. So I just went and got one. And I love that it put went on the phone bill, and like, oh my gosh, with so much money. And my dad you just walked into the phone store and said it if I did it online, but I got a blackberry, and I just wanted that cool screen, that little slid up. No, it did up. I don't think this one slid, it just was a full keyboard of a little like yeah ball that you use to swipe your thumb. My dad made me call Sprint and negotiate with them to return the phone and get a full refund. And did you? Yes. And it was the worst thing I still can remember being in his office. He's standing there, and I have to talk to these guys. But it was I feel like not afraid at all to call anyone now. Like, yeah. I don't love it. It's not like fun to do, but it's like I just gotta do this thing. It's I feel like experiences like that are just Like what you did with Charlie. Um, all right, let's talk about marriage a little bit. Okay. Get into this. Okay. Hot take I have is that I do not think you should have a close, a super close friend of the opposite sex, especially one that you've met like after you were married. So I feel like, and what I mean by that is I don't think you should be texting someone else rightly, like sharing your life with them. I think that should be like your spouse should be your best friend. And I hate the terms work husbands and work wives. I think that's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

It's funny you say this. And my coworker that said this listens to the podcast, so she'll laugh about this. But I hate when you call your work a family in general. It's actually just a giant pet peep of mine. We can be a team, we can be a super supportive team, but we are not a family. And when I say that, I actually said it recently at work. Quit saying we're a family. And somebody was like, Well, we know what family member you are, because I'm the outcast. Black sheep. Right. She out. The one that's saying that.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

It's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

I think it can just lead to a really toxic, I don't know. I I do think, and truly we do have the greatest supportive team at school, the seventh grade team. But I just think when you say family, like families you can't get away from, you owe certain things to right your own family. And I don't want to feel that way about my teaching team.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Well, and it's work. I'm here, like yeah, I I love them. I care a lot about a lot of my coworkers, love some of them.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

But if I need to turn my phone off and not talk to you for a few days, it's okay too. Whereas if it's my mom calling, I need to answer. Right. It's funny.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Um, I feel like this has also been I feel like our culture today of young moms, this is a big thing of like how much husbands have to do, and we need to share the mental load on everything. And I feel like it's just doubling the work. Like, I feel like I handle most household things and most things with the kids, and I'm fine with that. I don't need Jason like figuring out the grocery order.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Don't you think social media has done a lot of that? Yes. It's really a big thing of, oh my gosh, my husband does this, or I don't expect this, or how dare he expect this from me. Or have you ever seen where a mom might post about, I don't know, cleaning up the kitchen and cooking dinner, and people say, What's your husband doing right? Where was he? Why wasn't he doing this?

SPEAKER_01 24:13

And yeah, I don't just think we each lean into our strengths and you like the area that you're best at. And why would we? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Sometimes, and it's not really true, it'd be a terrible thing to really say, but sometimes I say I'm the opposite of a feminist because I need a man to be taking care of me.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

I am not an independent woman.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

No. Wow. So I got this new car and I'm doing the oil changes right at the dealership. Yeah. And I can do it right on my phone. I can schedule it, you know, and all the all the things. So I handled that this Monday, and I am 42 years old. And I texted Brian and I was like, I'm such a big girl. I get my car to get my oil change. That's what I thought is I don't want to do this again. Can you please? He's handled cars, have always been his thing. He's done all of it. He's even, you know, buying this car, he we did it together. I would never go do something that like that without him. But yeah, I'm like, I don't even know. I wouldn't even know the things to ask. I don't even thankfully, this is a new car. So they were like, everything's great. Everything's check, check, check, green mark green mark, green mark, green mark. And but if there was ever a yellow one or something, I'd have to be like, I have to talk to my I don't even know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Taking this home, I'll call you back.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Yeah, there's just so many things that I mean, even when the boys were little, there'd be things where well, we'll ask Dad about that when he gets home. I have no idea. And I don't want to know. No. I think that's where it's like the mental capacity, right? Like I can handle lots of things, but certain things Brian's.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Well, it does feel like it's primarily obviously I don't follow dudes on social media, really. But it is women of he needs to do this around the house and blah blah blah. And it's like, are you doing all these things outside of the house? Are you doing the gutters and doing insurance?

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Or that could be the difference between you and I have husbands that work really hard outside and have such different jobs. So sometimes I think yeah, he handles so much physical work on the farm, like I can cook the dinner. It's okay. I also like doing that. That's the thing. I was just gonna say, I thoroughly, if he was gonna be like, every once in a while, and he does every once in a while say, I'm gonna order pizza or let's do this for dinner, great, sounds great. I don't have to clean up the kitchen or anything, but I love planning and cooking meals.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

So there was this meme I saw that was like women belong in the kitchen, and and then it said, Don't tempt me with a good time.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

I know that's so true. Yeah, right. I'm in there, I'm in there playing my music and I am doing my thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Um, yeah, I feel like Jason has made me a passenger princess. I feel like I never drove. Oh, absolutely. Ever. And that's so fun.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

And then don't you never know where you're going?

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Yeah, never.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

If we go somewhere, basketball season, for example, I'm getting better at where all the schools are in the WCAL. But yeah, gosh. I have to put it on my GPS.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

But if Brian's driving, I don't I'm like, where are I have no idea where we are. I still get GPS from like one side of Worcester to the other. I'm probably close to learning that without it, but I have Ashland.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

You gotta know the best route sometimes. You just need GPS to tell you. Or if they're like construction ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Why wouldn't I use this tool? Right. That's free in my hand. I think that another thing is your attitude determines your day. I think we each have the kind of control on like deciding how our day is gonna go. Yeah. And kind of along with that, I think that we overcomplicate our lives. We make everything like harder than it has to be.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

I think that's probably true. Yeah. I think that things to remember are we are the ones creating the chaos, and God isn't asking for a perfect schedule, he's asking for our hearts, right? We just have we're really quick to, I don't know, even the husband-wife stuff. Why are we even doing that? Of who owes what or who keeping tabs or keeping school or any relationship, anything, yeah. And so I don't know. The one Bible verse I had for this was Colossians 3 15, let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts. And so I just think all these hot takes, right? Just remember that. I don't know, find some peace and yeah, I think that's the whole goal.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I think you had also said peace over perfection, maybe or chasing peace. You had something like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Yeah, I think you're right.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

And I just think if it wraps your peace, it's a no. Yeah. Just can't.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

This was so fun. Just spilling our guts on all this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Do we want to end in a prayer?

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

All right. God help us to be humble, to love others well, and to trust you enough to slow down. Give us peace and wisdom in all we do. Amen.