20 - Carrying Each Other’s Burdens (In Real Life)

Episode Summary

This week, Amy and Patty catch up on life lately, from books and library mishaps to spring flowers and upcoming trips. 

They celebrate a big milestone with Amy’s 10-year anniversary and a kid-free California trip in the works, while also navigating the chaos of busy family schedules, state testing, and everyday life.

The conversation takes a meaningful turn as Patty shares a powerful story from the NFL Draft about Fernando Mendoza and his decision to stay home with his mom who has multiple sclerosis. That leads into a deeper, heartfelt discussion about disability, compassion, and what it really looks like to “carry each other’s burdens” in real life.

They reflect on Patty’s mom’s journey with Multiple sclerosis, the quiet strength it takes to live with it, and the perspective it gives on gratitude, grace, and not taking your body for granted.

Rooted in Galatians 6:2, “Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ,” this episode is a reminder to slow down, offer help, and lead with compassion.

It’s a mix of light and heavy, funny and meaningful, just real life as it is.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to 27 Good. I'm Patty. I'm Amy. We're so glad you're with us today. Seriously, we really do appreciate everyone listening. It's my favorite thing to get a text if someone listens. Same. What's up?

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Happy Sunday night. Happy Sunday night. I had a great Sunday here. I got everything done on my to-do list. I feel like I just listened to my audiobook. I finished the second Outlander book while I was listening today.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Whew! It was a doozy. Is that the one we were just talking about that, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

The first one, Outlander, it's called. She travels back in time. She's in the 40s in Scotland, 1940s, and she travels back in time to the 1700s when it's the Scottish Highlands and they're rebelling against the English king. But the first one's so fascinating, and it's a love story too, and there's just a lot learning the characters. And so I was so curious. I think there's something like six to eight books.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

This is the show too.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Yeah. Have you watched the show? I believe every book is a season. I've only watched the first season because or read the first book, but I had started the second season and couldn't get into it because I hadn't read the. I think maybe because I hadn't read the book. I'm not sure, but I just couldn't really get into it. So when we read The Correspondent, oh yes, she writes to the author. It's where she writes to a couple different authors when she reads books, letting them know her thoughts on it. Which is is why it made me think of Outlander. And I read Outlander, I want to say 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Actually, I think I had a school, I thought we No, it's definitely not a book you read. Okay, just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

It's rated R. Unless you had a really creative experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

No, not in school then.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

She was like, I don't care what the parents say, we're reading this. So it led me to read the second one. And it was, I don't know, 700-something pages long. And it was there's a lot. I appreciate a historical fiction book that includes a lot of history. And in in the 1940s, she was a nurse in the war. And so when she goes back in time in the 1700s, think of the difference in medicine. I mean, they can't perform surgeries, you know, they don't have antibiotics. And so that's really fascinating, I think, because in the first book was actually, I think I read it right around the time when we were doing essential oils, because the first book is a lot of then. She has to find herbs and things that she can use for the cure ailments. Um, I found a lot of that really fascinating. And then they all think she's a witch because she's kind of a healer. Yeah. But, anyways, it's a great book. If you have, I would say definitely read the first one. The second one, I gave it four stars because I do think I love the characters, I love the storyline, but man, it was really, really a quest to get through. Yeah. That's what my review said. This was quite the quest, is what I said. So I don't I think in my lifetime, maybe I'll read all of the books, but I don't have any plans to read the third book anytime soon.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

I had to take a break. What are you moving on to? Do you know? Yeah, it's a book called Hold on, let me look at it.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

I just got it from the library. I had been on hold for a while there. And this story might save your life by Tiffany Crumb.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Here we go. Yeah. I'm terrified to go back to the library because we lost one of our library books. You're just gonna have to pay it. It has to be somewhere in our house, I know. It's Juni B. Jones is a crook or is not a crook.

unknown 3:06

Love.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

But what do we do? I know. Just go and have to pay it. Yeah, you just go to the desk and just pay it. Just say so sorry, this is gone. I'll bring it back when I find it.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

She'll the librarian will see you with all your kids and understand.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

She'll be like, sorry, you're never welcome back here again.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

No, I think it's pretty regular. Pretty normal move.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

It's a kid's book. Yes. Gosh. Good day here too. Gorgeous weather all day. Gorgeous weather. We I feel like I busted stuff out before. Church, and then we went to my in-laws for lunch. And what else? On a long walk by myself while they napped, which was just great. And I didn't listen to anything, which was a first for me. I feel like I don't think I could do that. Well, for one, I'm always I rarely am on a walk solo. But it was great. I took Lucy and I don't know. It was so weird, but it was great.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I planted the first of my flowers. Oh my gosh, I didn't know. New flowers that I did have not done yet. Rununculus. I feel like I'm just gonna say that word wrong, but that's how it is. And then anemones, which sounds like something that's in the ocean. And I had bought their little they're I suppose they're bulbs, but they're tiny, they're tiny little bulbs. And another Chat GPT use. I ran them through Chat GPT. Can I plant these? Dahlias are my favorite, and I know that dahlias need to be planted later. They like warm soil, they want full sun, they don't want any risk of it getting cold. I've had it be where I plant them too early and then nothing happens to them. And they're pricey to get the bulbs, and so I don't want to ruin it. So I won't plant those till usually in Ohio, our risk of no more frost is like Mother's Day, but I probably won't plant those till more like the middle or late May. So I ran it by ChatGPT if all of the things that I wanted to plant this year were the same. And he said no. He said these two want cool soil and that I should plant them now. So my flower beds aren't fully ready for all of my flowers, but I hood up a section and got things ready, put some soil down and planted those today.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Where do you buy their bulbs from?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

I did them online to this time, just from Amazon? No, it was an online nursery. Oh, nice. Uh, Dutch Brothers, I think was the name of this one. I've done a couple different ones, but I think I stumble upon the ones running deals or something again. I think that my Instagram n knows that I like flowers because there's always something showing up on my feed, some kind of deal or something.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Gosh, it is an area in a couple years. I just can't wait to slay up. Maybe next year is my year to plant more flowers because they really are just yeah, it just makes everything.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

It's just so much work in that you're just already doing a lot of work.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

I didn't really get into houseplants or flowers until well, flowers. This is my third year growing flowers to cut for vases, but my houseplants have been around for longer. But I didn't really get into the houseplants until I don't know, maybe my boys were much big were bigger. Because I've always felt like I was having a hard time even keeping the tiny humans alive. I know. It's true.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

It's our anniversary is this week, 10 years.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

So exciting.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

It feels yeah. We're using a gift card, and then grandma's watching the kids this week.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

I was fascinated by how many gift cards you have. I know. You always have a gift card to give some like our last one, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

So great. We still have some from old jail. Yeah, you have always have an old jail. I know, always have an old jail. What's so funny though is I think it's because they're in Jason's wallet because I nothing it burns a hole in my thing. I never would know to use it. Yeah, he just or of course he's waiting. Because the other day he had Andrew with him and I had Samantha and Austin and we went to Arby's, but I thought, oh yeah, where's that old jail gift card? I'll take them there. But I didn't have it. Yeah. His wallet. But another fun news, Jason got a cow show to judge in California, which I already told you about. Cali Girl. I've never been to California to Sacramento.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

And we decided Sacramento was more south, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

I looked it up after we were chatting.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

So great. Amy told me already about this that Jason got has this cow show. It's such an honor that he got invited to to judge there, right? It's kind of a big deal. He's a big deal. Yeah. She's making a face that he's not, but yes, he is. So I was like, oh my gosh, couples like just the two of you are gonna get to go away. It's gonna be your 10-year anniversary trip, and she was right away, was like, I think we might bring Samantha. Wait, because the best was you were like, Samantha really wants has always wanted to go to California. She's five. It's a dream of hers.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

There's a song. Gosh, what is it? It's a country song. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

California bed.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

There's California Girls, Katy Perry.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Yeah, but she I'm sure my boys too have always wanted to go to California. I've always you've always wanted to go to California. You're how old? I'm 33. And now you're growing. But man, we gotta make sure. Yeah, but last year. No, we did our trip before we had kids was we drove the coast of California. Oh my gosh, how fun. And so we started in LA. We ended up in San Francisco, and then we went to Tahoe. And my brother was living in Tahoe at the time, and we Oh my gosh, I love that. And we skied there. So that was my California, my first California experience. But then my brother got married in San Diego last year, so we did that too. Which San Diego is amazing. Yes. Would 100% go back there. San Francisco too. I mean, California's pretty cool. I think, yeah. But anyways, I talked her out of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

She's not bringing Samantha. Yeah. Our friend is. Not happening. So which actually Jason was maybe just Samantha. I was like, well, if we're bringing her, we have to bring Andrew. Jason's like, we are not bringing them. So maybe another year. We can all go out there, but just us. I can't wait. 10-year anniversary trip. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it'll be like four nights, maybe.

unknown 8:35

Great.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

It'll be more than you know what I mean? Yeah, and not just a weekend away.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Not if we're flying to California. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Right, of course. So I gotta call my family, see if they'll help out with the kids, or else what? Santha's probably old.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Santha's old enough. She's size. She'll be like liping out of the crib. Put some snacks in the cupboard.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

But I don't think I have anything else fun to talk about or report.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

No, we've already talked about this, but state testing is this week. So I was gonna ask about this. Really, I was just thinking I can't wait for it to be over. Such a weight lifted off my shoulders, my kids, my students. We get to do some fun things after that. And those are Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday, Wednesday this week, yes. And then done. And then done. Yep. And then it's just smooth sailing to get us through the end of the year. One more month. Right? Yep. So the one thing that I want to talk about, did you watch? I'm sure your answer to this is no. Did you watch any of the NFL draft? No. Of course not. I wonder if your boys will be as into sports as my boys. I'm sure they will. Yeah. Because raising the boys, I real my boys, I really never thought I would have such a sport household that I have. My brothers liked sports. My dad loves sports. Brian never really got into I think he likes Ohio State football because he went to Ohio State. He does not get into professional sports at all. And I certainly don't. Right. And so their friends, I think, were really big influencers. And then I really do think a lot of why my boys like sports is my brothers. Which is so sweet. Because they talk a lot of sports with my dad and my brothers. But so I did watch the NFL draft. And I will tell you, as a mom, man, a lot of the stories tug at your heartstrings because they're these young kids. Yeah. I mean, I'm 42, so a 22-year-old is a baby to me. And they're living out their dreams. They all cry.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

They it's just they all have I have seen one before in my life. Like I remember seeing. Yeah, probably. It was probably on blind side, the movie.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Like she's seeing a fictional the fictional fictional depiction. I know I've seen it. Yeah. Yes. So time or two. Yeah. So, anyways, I was doing things. I wasn't like I was glued to the TV watching it, but the one that really stuck with me was that was this Fernando Mendoza. And he played for Indiana. So the first time that I ever knew who he was, Ohio State lost to Indiana twice last year. We lost to him in the national championship. And when they interviewed Fernando at the end of the game, the crowd was singing Abba's song Fernando. Sorry, keep going. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

I don't think I think I have the wrong kid. Okay. I had a white guy in mind. He is white. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

And adorable and has a smiley the cutest smile ever.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah. And at the end he was like giving, he was like, Oh, the glory to God. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I watched that. Yes, I know. Because you were an Ohio State fan.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

So you watched Indiana Beat Us. Yes. I couldn't even be mad. I think we talked about this. Couldn't even be mad because it was the sweetest thing. And he is the sweetest thing. And well, and I'm not competitive. So it was easy for me to be like, I wasn't even mad that Ohio State lost because Fernando Mendoza was. Right. And they're singing his song, Abba, Fernando. So he was in the first round pick. I don't know if he was the first pick. I couldn't tell you that. But he, quarterback, he's going to go to the Raiders. And his mom has MS, and they're this, they're Catholic. So he is very Christian, but they're a Catholic family. And since his mom couldn't travel because of her disability, he stayed home. And of course, they live streamed it. And they call him on the phone to tell him that he's and he's sitting on the couch. His mom is gorgeous. She's just beautiful. His I mean, his brother is handsome like him, but it was just the sweetest story that he just said, like, I'm not going. I mean, what a huge deal to be there. And he's choosing not to to be with his mom. And I just thought it my sister actually Wait, you didn't say why yet. Yeah, I said she has that. Didn't I say she had MS? Maybe I didn't. Anyways, if I didn't say she has MS and so she's disabled, she's wheelchair bound, and I think also has some limited mobility in her hands. And so in the uh at the draft, she was seated on the couch, and my sister and I laughed because we said she probably was like, I am not gonna be in a wheelchair on national television. We'll be seated on the couch. She'll move me there now. Yeah. She probably can get around like my mom with like a walker to get up where she needs to be. She just probably can't walk all the time. But anyway, so when I we've talked about it a lot this week. And when I was talking to my mom earlier today, I said that we were a little bit not sure what to talk about on this podcast. And she said that I should talk about that and that I should just talk about MS in general. And I told her that I'm always pretty careful about talking about MS because it's kind of her story to tell, and I never want to tell something that she wouldn't want to share on the podcast. But she was pretty cool with it. And so MS is multiple sclerosis, it's an autoimmune disease. It disrupts the communication between their brain and their body. So you think a lot of the times it affects mobility in the way of walking, balance. So when you are trying to maybe lift your foot to get up a step, like you can't, you're telling your brain to do it, or your brain's trying to tell your foot to do it, but it's like, no, I won't listen. It's one of those invisible illnesses where so many people will say to my mom, ask her what's wrong because she looks fine. She appears Yeah, normal. Yeah, like all her limbs are normal size, you know, nothing's missing. I mean, my dad is disabled in a different way because he had his leg amputated. And so obviously, if you saw him in a wheelchair, you know exactly why he's in the wheelchair. But I think that so then I would I said to my mom, well, what's the message? Like what we're just gonna talk about MS. And I think that the message maybe is just for my mom's story, even early on with her MS, she could walk, she lift, she carried my babies upstairs, you know, she could put them in the crib, pull them out of the crib, and now there's she would never be able to do any of that. And so they weren't always in a wheelchair.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

How long has she had it?

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Oh, she was diagnosed. Diagnosed my senior year of high school, so 2001 or 2002. So I mean 25 years. Wow. Yeah. And everybody is a little bit different. Sometimes they progress. I actually think there's two, I should have researched this. There are two types of MS. One's more aggressive and progressives a lot faster, and then one is not, but I feel like that's somewhat new. I don't remember that from when she was first diagnosed. So she has one that is technically not as fast progressing, but then certain things can make them progress faster. Yeah, something will happen. And I really think with her kind of COVID, some things that happened in that really shifted kind of how she was able, like what her symptoms were. But the Bible verse that I thought we should discuss when we were talking about this was Galatians six, two. And you said this was the Bible verse that Yeah, we've been saying it all day.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

What's so funny is church sat home like this paper with it on it, but I did not look at it. And then Samantha in the house was like, Galatians 6 2. I was like, wait, what are you saying? I was like, and then she continued it.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

You could say it, and then we'll carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. So I think when you see people that are in wheelchairs, one example that I thought of was it's not my mom, but I took my dad to an appointment. Well, I didn't take him. I have to meet him because he has to have wheelchair transportation. I met him at an appointment, and it's at a branch of Cleveland Clinic that must be an older building because it's terrible to get around at the wheelchair. It's terrible to get in and out of the rooms, they're not big enough. He's big, but his wheelchair is not that big. And everyone axonoid. At him?

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Like at the patient. Yeah. And sorry for being a patient here, trying to get around.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Then to get him in the room, I have to kind of to the nurse that brought us in. I said, Should I back in? What's the best way? And she looks at me like I'm talking in in a different language or something. Yeah. That I have to figure it out. I don't know. And then we had to get him into the bed. And I said to her, Do you want to get him in the bed or do you want me? She was like, I'm not putting him in the bed. I said, Well, okay, like I'll thanks for the help.

unknown 16:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

I just think sometimes, and one time with my dad's one of my dad's doctors, and he was this young guy, super fit. I totally read into like, I just know you go to the gym all the time and you're eating your protein. But he acted too much of that protein.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

He was eating that protein. I can tell you're eating too much.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Going to the gym. He had this tight button-up shirt on. He was so proud of his muscles. He's like, this is the size small. And I felt like he talked to my dad like he had done it to himself, that he had somehow lived a life that led him to this path of a knee replacement that then got infected and then had to be amputated. And it's so wrong, I think, because I think you don't know what your future's gonna going to bring. And so I just think offering grace to people, yes, knowing that they didn't ask to be in that wheelchair, they certainly don't want to be in the wheelchair.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

And just opening door, like even out and about. Gosh, you see, any well, for sure, any person, but especially someone with some type of limitation.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

And my sister and I have such an eye for that. And then I've taught, I think, my boys to really be aware. Yes. We're always offering to take help somebody load their the one I can think of is we were at a store and this woman had it was at that it was one of those surplus stores in Worcester, and she had so much stuff in her car, and some of it was massive boxes of things because everything's cheap there. And I thought, there's no way she's getting all that in her car. She's this little lady. Yeah. And so I said to the boys, you need to offer to help her. And so they did. And I said, Don't take anything from her. Like she'll offer you money, or do not. She offered them a box of cookies that she bought at the surplus store. And I said, No, we're not taking any of that. And I could see them, because you also have don't trust anybody. I could see them from while I was checking out then. I could see them right outside the door helping her put the stuff in their in her car. But I just think, and we're really quick, we're always in a rush. We're really quick, we're really selfish of our time. And if something's inconvenienced to us, like this woman that was taking a really long time at the checkout, we're quick to be annoyed, I think, of the situation instead of recognizing she maybe needs help. Yeah. So the the things that I have gained though from my mom, I didn't want it to be like such a Debbie Downer, I think, of an episode. Oh, yeah. You know, she has such a resilience. I think she has a really great perspective on life. She's so funny. She's so funny. I had humor written down. She's really funny. And then she has a great faith. Yeah. And she just always says this is just like we've said before, her cross to barrier.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

It's just is that why you had we had texted something, and I said you have to talk about that a while back, like last episode. Your mom texted something.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Oh, I remember what it was. In a previous episode, we talked about how we never hear God's voice. Oh, yes. So good. And why isn't he screaming at us? And we he's not loud enough. And she is a loyal listener of the podcast. Sometimes she listens to the podcast multiple times in a week. She just loves it. We love that mom.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

We love it. We love the text. Patty will sometimes share it with me, and it's just so sweet.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Yeah. And she said that God is actually always talking to us. We are just too busy to listen. And she said that's one of the greatest blessings of getting older and her life being much simpler is that she can always hear him and always hear what he wants and his message. And I thought that was just so cool.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Yeah, so cool.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

What a great thing to look forward to. I think sometimes we can be at least in the stage I'm in, I can be really worried about what will I do when my kids are gone.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

But there are such great things, I think. I love all the stuff about um helping people at the store. I feel like I'm trying to instill the same thing. Like my kids are little, but they can open the door for someone, especially Samantha and Andrew. And it just is gosh carry, like helping your neighbor and loving people well.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

And I think also if you know somebody that's disabled, and it can be in such a tiny way, not to expect a lot from them. Yes. I think that for my mom, every step is something. And so something I'm very aware of is how terribly our world is for handicapped people. Stores, restaurants. And so you might think, oh, she went to this restaurant with so and so. Surely she can come out with us. And unless it's set up right, unless she's feeling good that day, every day is different for her. And then people can just really be disappointed, I think, when she doesn't do that. And then back when she used to work, and I think sometimes that was it for her. Then she could go to work and that was it for her strength. Don't then expect, well, if they go to work all day, why can't they come out to eat with us or something? And so I think when people are disabled in any way or their bodies aren't doing what they used to do, I think just really offering that grace of you really just don't know the burden they carry. And it's not up, it's not to them to have to explain that either. Like she shouldn't have to say that restaurant has a step that I can't get up. She could should just be able to say I can't go and it'll be okay. One cool thing that's happening this summer is my brother Harry is gonna get his baby baptized in mentor so that my mom can go. So that's I think that's a really great way of him recognizing that she would love to be there. There's no way she's traveling anymore. We all traveled to Grace when Grace got baptized. And I mean, Grace is nine, so nine years ago, eight years ago. And I love that so much. So she's he's gonna come here. But even then, I kind of already said to them, like, we're gonna do the baptism. Make sure you pick a lunch that's not far away. Right. We because travel time, getting in and out of cars, all of that can be so hard. But I think they're pretty good at that. I do think my brothers have sometimes a little bit of a harder time with some both of my parents' disabilities just because they're not around it all the time. Yeah. Like we are.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

But for listeners, they're like West Coast.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Oh yeah. My brothers live out of state. Yes. Another thing that I've certainly learned from my mom is that every good thing is a gift. And I think that I look at my walks and my workouts in a different way than I ever have because I'm so lucky that my body works the way it does. And I don't take my walks for granted ever. I'm so lucky for the road I live on that it's so quiet. And just that my body right now moves the way I want it to move. I think that that's we can really be annoyed with having to go work out or doing things like that, but I think and you can't always every day be like, I'm not gonna take it for granted. I'm gonna think of Louise and I'm gonna do my workout, but I actually think most days you can, you know?

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Yeah. Like I actually I feel like she kind of inspired me of being quiet on the walk today. I was like, I don't need to take an earbud. And I felt the same. For once, Bates was so slow. I felt like I didn't pass any cars, which I felt like was wild. But it is, it's such a gift. And I can just imagine how actually I probably cannot fully imagine, but it is so frustrating when your body just can't do what it once did.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Or you can probably imagine you can probably imagine it to some degree. I'm sure there's been something, an injury or something.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

What's I think was sparked at my little gimpy wrist a while ago when it was like, oh my gosh, I can't yeah, from Shovel and Snow. When you can't do a push-up and then, you know, it's or tiny things and it's just so frustrating.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Yeah, that's why I think a lot of people have it have experienced it in some small way, and then just thinking of it in such a bigger way of that that's where she is, and just like Fernando Mendoza's mom, she's gorgeous sitting on that couch, her son, she's gives a speech afterwards, and it's just she's so proud of him, and she's so proud of him for reaching his dreams and his goals, and what a good boy to just realize he should just stay home for that, you know, not leave his mom.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

So, yeah. Gosh, love all that. Admire you so much, Louise. We do, she's the best.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

But I think just to remember that some people are fighting battles in their own bodies and some people are loving people who are doing that. And so, even though, like my sister and I, obviously and my brothers are not disabled in any way, it still is can be really a burden that you carry. So just be in there for people and extending that grace always. Yeah, I love that. That's great. You think we're about done? I think probably. Okay, so we say a prayer. Yeah, dear God, thank you for today. Thank you for the sunshine for checking the things off our to do list. Thank you for our families, and special thank you for my mom, and thank you for our bodies, and help us to always give grace to people who are fighting battles that we might not understand. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.