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23 - The One About Worry…Spoiler Alert: Most of It Never Happens

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This week’s episode is a little life catch-up, a little church reflection, and a whole lot of talking ourselves through worry. Patty shares what spring planting season looks like on the farm right now, including Drive Your Tractor to School Day, growing boys, and the bittersweet reality of watching your kids become independent. Amy opens up about making a big childcare transition for next year and the mental spiral that can come with motherhood changes and wanting your kids to be okay. 

The conversation turns into an honest chat about anxiety, overthinking, and how easy it is to replay fears in our minds. We talk about practical ways to try to fight worry, from writing things down and interrupting anxious thoughts to leaning into prayer, truth, and trusting that God has always provided before and will again. 

There’s also discussion around parenting older kids, letting go a little at a time, protecting your peace, and remembering that most of what we worry about never actually happens anyway.


Bible Verses mentioned:

Philippians 4:6-7: Paul tells believers not to be anxious about anything, but in every situation to bring requests to God through prayer and thanksgiving. The promise that follows is that God's peace, which surpasses understanding, will guard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 1:7: "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." Paul is encouraging Timothy not to shrink back in timidity.

Matthew 6: It's part of the Sermon on the Mount and covers a lot of ground: giving to the needy, the Lord's Prayer (verses 9-13), fasting, storing up treasures in heaven rather than on earth, not being able to serve both God and money, and the famous "do not worry" passage (verses 25-34) about the birds of the air and the lilies of the field — ending with "seek first the kingdom of God."

Romans 8:5-6: Paul contrasts two ways of living: those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires, while those who live according to the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. "The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace."




SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to 27 Good with Amy. And I'm Patty. And what's up? What's up? How that's we say the same thing every time. What's up? We're a pretty predictable. Pretty predictable. Couple girlies. Well, the weather's been gorgeous lately, minus a few s rainy days. It's a little bit cold. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We're a little bit, I think, just dying to get in the fields. And so we have a green farm. We plant corn and soybeans and then we have wheat that we planted in the fall.

SPEAKER_01

I grew up on a grain farm. But now we're dairy farmers and all of our we just mostly do corn and hay. And it just all goes toward feeding the animals. So it is kind of funny because I thought when what did Jason and I went out for anniversary and we had said we should go to the distillery with you guys and use those coupons that we have for like the free flight. I was like, it'll either have to be a rainy day or after like in July when everything's done. Cause we I feel like we're never well, we don't farm as many acres for but ours are like we want them kind of staggered, so it's not all ready at the same time. So it's just like a different yeah, because you chop your corn for the cows.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yeah, so that it's not all like everything needs chopped today. We're planting more acres this year than we ever have, which is exciting. I mean, that's always our goal is to grow the farm. And I mean, bought land, but also rented land. But it's just a lot of pressure in this time of year. Brian takes a lot of pay time off of the pharmacy. So he's also a pharmacist at a hospital, and he takes a lot of pay time off to get his planting done, and then he takes pay time off also in the fall. And so when you know you have these days off that you've scheduled and then the weather's bad, I just think it can be really kind of stressful and discouraging. Now I'm home. A little and you get a little stir crazy or something. So actually, what what what's funny is on the way home from school on Friday, we'd had kind of a stretch of rainy, cool weather, and Charlie was like, we have to all be kind to dad this weekend. Be kind. He's gonna be stressed, he's gonna be, you know, short fuse. Um, but he's been actually totally fine. I think that that's just something that like with everything in life, you get more understanding of and just more patronage.

SPEAKER_01

It's gonna get done.

SPEAKER_00

It just, you know. So we're I'm kind of hoping that the weather can start to just get a little warmer, dry things out, and everybody can get back at it. We've got people that are willing to help us, and then the boys are a little bit more hands-on than they've ever been, and so we'll get it done. But I think we're just kind of sitting around waiting for it a little bit. They got a lot of I mean, one day this week Charlie got out of school. We got out at 2 30. I think I dropped him off the at the tractor around three, and he didn't quit until nine o'clock at night. I mean, that's like a six-hour worked after school. Yeah. Yeah. And he said, I'm gonna go inside and pack a cooler before you take me. And I said, Okay. And I knew that we didn't have a lot. I was in desperate need of a like a rerun. Yeah, restock the cupboards, restock the refrigerator. And so I said, What did you pack? Like, what did and he said, a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, it'll keep me all night. It'll keep me going. I was set. Yeah. He's like, I'm set. Gosh, that's funny. And that I love how much the boys love helping on the farm, and they're not even helping now, they're like run their own equipment. They're working and it just has to make you and Bran so happy because it's just what you hope.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure. And then they both have for each animals too. Charlie has two lambs and Sam has a steer. So we're just really in the thick of all that. They're just working their animals, and they just move them to the barn that's closest to our house, which is nice because they can just go right out and work them. And but it's just a lot of work. It's just a lot, a lot happening. The the farm is just fully alive right now, and we're still going to school. It's nice when the summer happens and we can just be out doing things like that and not have to also make sure we're in bed at a reasonable hour and getting up really early and all the things. Tomorrow is drive your tractor to school day. Love it. Which certainly Smalltown, Ohio. Something I did not have. Yeah, you had it? Uh-huh. And so Charlie is an FFA, and so he can drive a tractor tomorrow for the first time. And um, I'm gonna follow him, of course, with my hazards on. We drive country roads school, it'll be fine. But he washed the tractor he wants to drive and waxed it. Love it tonight. Brian probably loves this. He's like, this is great. He's like, These tractors are getting so clean. I have a meeting in Worcester tomorrow, and so I said that Brian has to go and follow him back home. So he's gonna, and we would never let him drive CM with him or anything like that. Like they're not driving home unattended from school. But so I think it'll be yeah, I'm hoping to grab some pictures. My dad was like, send pictures. So, because it really is just, I mean, I am living a life that is entirely different than the life I grew up with. So I think my for my family, it's really kind of fun to hear stories and see pictures and things.

SPEAKER_01

Gosh, I just can't believe Charlie's so big. Why am I gonna cry? Like, I remember when I met you when he was a little preschooler.

SPEAKER_00

I know, and he just came in and talked to us. I know he's a great man now.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_00

He's got these like chiseled face features. That's the one that throws me lately. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

He's just, yeah, becoming a man.

SPEAKER_00

It's so it's so wonderful. It's so wonderful. It's such a blessing to watch your kids grow up.

SPEAKER_01

It's just so wild.

SPEAKER_00

But it is. There's a there's a bittersweet thing always. Every birthday feels that way. A little bittersweet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And Sam too sitting out there. They're just both so big. And they're actually like giants. They're so tall. They're so tall. Are they six? How tall are they?

SPEAKER_00

Charlie's gotta be six foot.

SPEAKER_01

He has to be.

SPEAKER_00

Um, Sam. I don't know if he's I don't think he's past me up yet. Gosh, they're just so tall. Because I hugged him today, and I don't think he's taller than me.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Charlie just came in and hand-ripped his pants, and I was dying to hear what you were thinking. He's like, I have like 10 more pairs of these. That's true.

SPEAKER_00

They're Amazon sweatpants. They're, I don't know what they were. I think they were, I want to say they were under $10 a pair. And when I buy things like that, Amazon sweatpants, it's that Amazon Essentials brand. Same with Old Navy. If Old Navy has a good active wear sale, I mean I buy, they both wear the same size right now, and I just buy like 10 pairs of something. And so it is kind of true, but always when they ruin a clothes, they're just like, it's fun. Mumble Bobby New. The one that really drives me the most nuts is the tennis shoes. Because tennis shoes are expensive and they'll just store you a pair of tennis shoes in one outing. And what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

Well, this is so funny because I was gonna audio you this. One of our errands we were going to run today that we did not was to go get new shoes for Samantha and Austin and Andrew. We had lost one of his hey dudes, and I thought, oh, we should just get him a pair too. But then we found it today, of course, which was great. But then I was like, let me feel how much space you have. I was like, your foot's like to the top of these. Happens immediately. But Samantha, which I've always bought her. I've never bought like an expensive shoe for her yet. We've just bought like a she's picked off Amazon. It's like 20 on the way home last night. She's like, my shoe broke. Like the string like came and they're not tie. They like, I don't know how to there's like a a slidey thing that does. So we gotta get her new shoes. Well, it's kind of funny to buy it now instead of like right before school.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, but mine seasonally need shoes, so they get them always back to school. And then usually at Christmas, they're ready for almost another pair. And then about now, because it's think of from Christmas to now, they're ready for another pair. So Charlie's going to Washington, DC in two weeks. Oh my gosh. Eighth grade trip. Are you supervising? No, I didn't I didn't get picked to go. They only take so many extra um chaperones, and so it's okay, I think. He's my boy that never did sleepovers, never left my side, still doesn't love a sleepover. So sometimes it's like I mean, same now. Like I say, can I just go to my bone bed? Right. And well, mainly it's they just really like to get a decent amount of sleep. I kind of made him those that way. But so they're like, why would we stay up all night and then feel terrible the next day? But I think it's just time to like, you know, like cut the gold. Let baby bird yeah, go. Too sad to think about. It is, but it is time. Um, so it'll be okay, I think. And he gets to have his phone. I mean, he'll probably be like texting me and FaceTiming me all the time. I mean, you hope. I hope, yes. I'll probably tell him he has to. But when we went to the meeting for the Washington DC trip, they said to pack two pairs of tennis shoes because if they have a really rainy day, their feet get soaked because they're outside and they walk all day. And we don't have a second good pair. He's got one, they have one nice pair of tennis shoes that they wear to school, and then they have hey dudes that they wear to church, they have boots, and then they have their old tennis shoes, are usually just farm tennis shoes that are just old. Really up. So I did just order him. I did not let him pick. He's my he likes to pick.

SPEAKER_01

They always want the most expensive online. I know.

SPEAKER_00

And I thought these are just your backup pair that then are now gonna be farm shoes for the summer. I'm not even, I'm buying what I can find cheap, and this they're your backup pair. Yeah. So he'll probably be like, I'm not wearing those. Yes, you are. Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_01

It's so funny. Do you want to chat about church from this week?

SPEAKER_00

Sure, yeah. So our church is going through, I think we've talked about it before, a transition, and we're without a pastor. So we have a lot of guest speakers coming. And the guy that came this past week is a pastor that he's a Lutheran pastor, we're a Lutheran church, and so in order to have communion, I think they have to be not Lutheran pastors, but they have to be, what is that? Some type of like it's not certification, but something. Right. Right. So he now works for the Cleveland Clinic and is a pastor there. And he, I believe he had to have added this. We always have a prayer of the day, but we've never prayed anything along these lines. And then after the prayer of the day, he talked a lot about it. And so I felt like he probably picked it to be put in here. So it was, my Lord God, I have no idea where I am going. I do not see the road ahead of me. I cannot know for certain where it will end, nor do I really know myself. And the fact that I think that I am following your will does not mean that I'm actually doing so. But I believe that the desire to please you does in fact please you, and I hope I have that desire in all that I am doing. I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire, and I know that if I do this, you will lead me by the right road, though I may know nothing about it. Therefore, I will trust you always, though I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death. I will not fear, for you are ever with me, and you will never leave me to face my perils alone. Amen.

SPEAKER_01

Gosh, so good.

SPEAKER_00

So we read that out loud in our church. I don't know if it's all Lutheran churches, I've not been to enough. We read a lot of things out loud. Um, and so I thought it was just really we've talked about some things along those lines, I think, like recognizing your sin, not letting it be an excuse for behavior. Yeah. Yeah, and making sure you're still following what Jesus wants you to do.

SPEAKER_01

So I just thought it was kind of something worth sharing. Gosh, I love that. And also everything at the beginning, too. Of like I just think most people have a situation like that where you're like, what am I doing with my life? Yeah, I don't see the road ahead of me. Yeah, like what am I doing? What do you want me to do? What's my next thing? Am I supposed to just be where I am? Am I supposed to go do something else? Yeah. Like in whatever area or facet that is. But it is so good. Is there anything else from church you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00

He gave a really great sermon, and it was probably because he is a pastor in a hospital. He talked a lot about people that are dealing with sick family members and things like that. And I've walked that path in the last year. So I've I've really felt that a little bit of just when you're at your wit's end and God sends somebody like just to like get you back on path. And he said, We a lot of people would call it coincidence or things like that, but he's like, That's God. And he said, like, what a cool thing to think that God cares enough about you. Gosh, that he can recognize that that's what you need. Like, you need that break in that moment, and just how he talked about like how big our galaxy is, and then what we're like a galaxy of galaxies. And so us, our existence is so tiny, and then for God to still have a care of what we have going on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Big and massive, and yeah, and knows how many hairs are on your head. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Just wild. Yes. So it was just, yeah, I thought he did a really great job. He's back again in June. Oh, great. And I thought, oh, yeah, I'd be interested to see what he has to say. Does he want to just come? Right. You want to leave the Cleveland Clinic and just come here? Yeah, he's probably like, no, right.

SPEAKER_01

He's probably making a ton of money there. Gosh, it's great. We didn't make it to church this week and I didn't listen to the sermon. So some days. Which ended up being fine. But yeah, it was so this week. Hopefully it'll be great to Mother's Day. Yeah. A nice Mother's Day service.

SPEAKER_00

Um we have we have a Mother's Day video being shown at church. And of what? Of the kids saying what they like about their moms.

SPEAKER_01

Oh cute. That's such a good idea.

SPEAKER_00

I also had someone reach out to me that they wanted Brian to say something because his mom comes to our church and they wanted it to be all generations. Is he going to? He did. He did it. He was so nervous. I said, just leave it short and sweet, it's fine. He wanted to write it down and rehearse it. And I said, just speak from the heart. Something short, yeah. Yeah, short and sweet. Like I said, the kids are gonna be like, my mom makes her favorite food, you know. That's adorable. And I talked to Brian's sister, and she also was approached for the same thing because she comes to our church a lot. And so she said, Well, if Brian's gonna do it, then I'll do it. So it'll I think it'll be really sweet because I think that'll be nice for Joanne to see.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, gosh. That's so fun. Because I do feel like you don't get that stuff when your kids are big anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then then we did laugh because Brian said, What if Beth didn't send it in and I'm the only one that did? And it'll be all these kids and one adult Brian at the end.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think there's other adults they did?

SPEAKER_00

Well, she reached out to it in my in my text thread, it was maybe four other people. Okay. And I think she she did a because Beth said she was in a different text thread. So I'm hoping that I mean there are a lot of multi-generations at our church. So I hope that it's a lot. It'll be kind of sweet.

SPEAKER_01

That's great. Um, well, we had a big change this week, a decision I made, which broke my heart, to shuffle. So Samantha goes to kindergarten. Right now I have two drop-offs, so I have three kids. And next year, Samantha will go to kindergarten, Andrew will go to preschool, and then we were going to keep Austin at the sitter. And I can't even remember what sparked this.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and it's a little bit tricky because we live in the country. Yes. Kind of between Worcester and Ashland. And she's gonna go to school at our school. Yes. And so she's going to the school right down the road. Yeah, it's like five minutes. But then you drive into Ashland to work, which is 15, 20 minutes? Yeah, probably 20. 20 minutes, maybe. 25. Okay. Just because it's downtown. Yeah. And so you have a babysitter there and you have a daycare there. Yes. And so it's that alone, I think, makes things a little bit tricky.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And gosh, I really wish I could remember. Maybe it was pulling up the Northwestern calendar and feeling like, oh my gosh, this is a whole which sounds silly. And once I get it, it won't. But it feels a tiny bit overwhelming right now of just making sure like this is the first time I think Jason and I will have to either have like dig we need a calendar system, like digital, you know what I mean? Because right now I've always just handled days off because I'm in Ashland and they've had like the same days off, which it'll probably still be similar, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_00

Um well, remember that I have the same days off as Samantha. So right. She can come hang here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true too. Yeah. And most of them, like I take the holidays off because our streets closed, they're closed, or grandma or you. Yeah, it'll work out. But anyways, I have loved our sitter, and I just feel like she has been set so much. And she listens to our podcast. She listens to the podcast. What's so funny of how I found her is I forget if I've told this story. Gosh, what did I need? So Park Street is the daycare that they've gone to that we've just loved. Samantha started as like an eight-month-old, and then we've just been there, but then they closed the infant room. And when I got that notice, I still remember being like, oh my gosh, what are we going to do? I have to quit my job because we'll never find someone. But you do, childcare always works out. And why do we worry about it? But Michelle, I remember I was at the chiropractor, and I just felt like, in hindsight, it has to just be the prompting of the Holy Spirit, I think. Yes. To ask her if she knew anyone who babysits, which is so funny. And she did, and I got Michelle's number, and Michelle has a strict schedule and a strict day. She it's Monday, Tuesday, like certain days and certain times. And every time she said something, I was like, Oh yeah, I could do that or I could make that work. Like I still remember the phone call that I took in my car, like after that. And so then I was like, Well, I only need you to watch Andrew for six months because then he can just go to Park Street and help you of age. And then we just loved her so much. And then I found out I was pregnant with Austin. So then he also couldn't go. But I think it's So the boys go there.

SPEAKER_00

But Samantha's always gone to Park Street. Yeah, because she's of preschool age.

SPEAKER_01

But sometimes she goes to Michelle's, right? Yeah, actually, when I was due, gosh, was it like a month before I was due with Austin? Probably. I was like, I cannot do two drop-offs. I don't know, too pregnant, just couldn't, whatever. And so I was like, I'm pulling around. She can just go to Michelle's till Austin comes. Maybe a few weeks.

SPEAKER_00

Because Park Street's a little bit more of maybe a preschool setting versus now it is. They start like 18 months.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Is that what you mean by preschool versus like in-home day? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure, more structured. Just yeah. Yeah. So this week, it was like, gosh, I'm just if if because I don't know who will be doing drop off or Andrew was already switching to Park Street because he needs it's time for him to go to more of a preschool preschool setting.

SPEAKER_00

He'll be four. In the fall.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But then with adding another one, I don't know if it'll be Jason or I, like someone needs to be home when she gets off the bus if we do that route and who will be doing what. And it was like, gosh, this just simplifies things. It saves time, probably an extra 20 minutes, both morning and afternoon. And yeah, I was so sad.

SPEAKER_00

So Well, and Michelle said Austin's ready. And we'll love it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And he'll just be ready for more of that. And he will be. He'll be two and a half. Yes. It'll be great. Or he does a little bit of that at church. He's going to that little room.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I feel it was just kind of funny how it all was like a week of I'm not doing that. And then it was like, actually, that kind of just makes everything a little bit easier. But the coolest thing was, so I went to Michelle and I was like, did the face. She's like, what's wrong? It's like, I'm gonna send Austin to Park Street. And then I started crying almost like a monte here, maybe. But then it was so funny because when I picked, or she told me his spot's already filled by this other girl who it's like, this is such an answered prayer to her because she's been waiting. And so it just is funny how it all works out. It always works out. It always works out, which leads in we wanted to talk about worry. This was one of the podcasts we had previously recorded. This is the one that the audio didn't work.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was talking to myself, which we can't even remember what we said or what well, and we were so grateful it got scratched because anytime that we're trying to give advice, I think in this last episode that we did where we talked about boundaries, we feel a little bit funny.

SPEAKER_01

I know, and we just want it to be valuable, which is hard.

SPEAKER_00

And not hokey or forced or something, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so a lot of this comes from our hearts. We do a little bit of research always and try to pull in biblical ties, but and like what we've heard or reading. We can only tell so much of what we've experienced in our lives, I think. And so that sometimes is a big part of it. Is I I always think other people have problems that are different than mine that I hope this will be worthwhile.

SPEAKER_01

I have been thinking a lot lately since we said we were gonna talk about this, about worry, and this will be fun because we haven't really talked about this. So I think for this is probably true of like chronic, like if you're a chronic warrior worrying about every single thing all the time, looking for stuff, but also if it's just like this situation that has kind of consumed me this week of childcare, and then it's the next thing, and it's like just relax, you know? But I think when we at work last week, the we started off with a devotion and the Bible verse was about renewing your mind. I should have pulled that one up, but it's at the beginning where it says like you can renew your mind and then transformation happens. And I really think that we have the power to, and it's not even think. There's like science behind it, that we can rewire our thoughts and that we really do have control over our thoughts. And there's a devotional I sometimes listen to on Spotify that is from Jenny Allen, and she referenced Romans 8, 5 through 6, and it essentially says, I will choose to dwell on the truth. And I think that in situations sometimes when we are spiraling, we almost have to like just stop and prayerfully like turn it over. Like I think otherwise we just continue. I had a couple other things that I wrote down that she has said. One was she said this the greatest battle you're fighting is happening in your mind. The enemy wants you distracted, discouraged, and stuck. But God has already given you what you need to fight back with truth. Shoulders back, eyes up, you are not weak, you have authority. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control. That's from 2 Timothy 1, 7. And so I just think we can just be such a slave to these thoughts, and we really have the power within us to stop it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I think something that I just talked with a friend about was where there's a lot of Bible verses of like, do not worry, do not be anxious. But Philippians 4, 6 through 7 says, Do not be anxious about anything, but it goes on. But in every situation, by prayer and petition with Thanksgiving, present your requests to God. So I think we can sometimes be a little bit confused of like, well, God says don't worry, and of course we're gonna worry. You have so many things in our real lives that and I think being a smart human is to worry, prepare, prepare yourself, be thoughtful of the future. Yeah. But instead, I think recognizing that you can replace that worry with prayer instead of just always dwelling in that fear and that anxiety.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think another thing I feel like recent maybe it was the last episode when we did this, but I feel like when you are seriously worried about something, if it is so extreme of like, I don't know how I'm buying groceries this week or I don't Know how I'm doing, whatever the thing is. Gosh, write down all of the times that God has not provided for you. You know, or and it's or write down all of the times he has. And it's just this list of like everything always pulls through. And I always think um there's also a verse, I think it's in Matthew, and it says, like, how dare you were not how dare you worry, but like, why would you worry when look at the sparrows? They never know where their next meal is coming from. Yet he always provides for them. Yes. And it's like, gosh, God loves us so much more than the sparrows. Yes. That why would we, why would we think for a second that he wouldn't provide everything we need?

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I wrote down a few things, a few ways to kind of fight that worry, that like repetitive, we can get really stuck, I think, or at least I can. I can get kind of stuck. So name it, say it out loud, or write it down. I've tell my boys this all the time when they're stressed and worried. I always say, write it down because when you see it listed, it's so small. You're so right. That's such good advice. And so it's usually for them, it's because they're middle schoolers, you know, they have like multiple assignments due in one week or something. And I'm always like, okay, let's write write it down. We write it down, and it's two things or something, right? And then give it to God directly instead of replaying it mentally. So really like speaking it out loud of like, I'm handing this over to God, and then just trust that God sees the bigger picture. And I think that's the hardest part is really like letting it go. Like, I'm handing it to you now. This is on you. And Jesus talks about this in Matthew 6, right? Today has enough trouble of its own. We don't worry about tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, which is funny because we we really do just like only do it to ourselves. I know and I do think we're just I mean, we've said this too, probably. It really does just steal your joy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

In the first episode, we talked about a lot of stats, I remember, of like the number of things we worry about that don't come into fruition.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, that's the other thing is like we do I do that all the time of like these scenarios of what I would do if this had and it's like why do I spend any brain energy on that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I could have things that'll never happen.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. Gosh, love writing it down. I think that's a good one. I also think you can look at like things you're consuming. Like if you're freaking out about something, like especially news cycle stuff. I feel like I've unfollowed. Yeah, take a break on social media.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Um what do you worry about right now? It's the childcare stuff. That was the biggest thing lately.

SPEAKER_01

Just the start of kindergarten. I'm not worried about that yet. I feel well, maybe a little because I feel like the schedule and then we'll miss her orientation. I just I feel like all of these though have answers. Like you told me, just schedule an appointment, go in, see them before. Oh, actually, here's what I'm worrying about lately. This is so silly. Uh, it's her friends. Like it's new school. We don't have, she doesn't have friends at here. Like we well, no, like I know we know families that go, but we're not like good buds. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I and like why, even today, it's like, why am I worrying about this? She is so kind, she's so sweet, she will make friends, but it's any transition, I think, with your kids. And you want her to have good friends, you want her to have like lifelong friends, you know. I don't want the heartbreak. I don't want to deal with that. Like, I remember and I just remember some of that of like crying because someone's mean to you. It'll happen in middle school because I can just tell you that's that's the age. But I'll be there. I'll be like Samantha, we're not dealing with it. We're not dealing with that, and it really makes them stronger. Oh my gosh, today on our walk, we went up um the road, and then I was like, great, we gotta go down this hill. And she was on her scooter and she lost control and was wobbling and crashed into the ditch. It's not funny, it's so sad, but she is fine. But like I saw her face like go in, and we still had probably half a mile walk home. And she did it. She like, I was like, I can put you on my shoulders, or like I can make Andrew walk and you can ride. And she was just such a tough girl, and I was like, this is just what we do. We just are tough, we get through the hard things. Because obviously I've been worrying today or thinking about the friends. And I was like, she will be fine, and it's good for them. We've talked about that. It's good to struggle, but it's still hard, and you still just worry. Yeah, always. What are you worrying about lately?

SPEAKER_00

I'm in such different stages of life, but I think that I just want them to be kind humans and then make good decisions in the future. I'm really recognizing right now, you're not quite there yet, I don't think, that I can't make the decisions for them all anymore. They are just so them their own selves. And we can protect, we can make stops on things, we can put boundaries on things and make rules, but they are doing their own things. So I just I think I worry about that of just safety and just wise decisions and things like that. The farm's so active. We talked about that at the beginning of the podcast, but I worry about safety, I worry about just all the things, yeah. Every time they step out the door, right? Yeah, I bet. You just worry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Um, someone told me once, uh gosh, it was right when I think I got, I think I was pregnant with Samantha. She was like, Welcome to motherhood, you just never stop worrying. You were because I remember I was so worried, and I would look up this um miscarriage calculator, so stupid, but I just would because it brought me this piece that the percentages of continued to go down, which is like again, I never do that with the other kids. Yeah. But she's like, You just never stop worrying.

SPEAKER_00

No, you just do. There's so much out of your control. Yeah. And you want to be in control because you want to just protect them. But you're right. And you you want to protect them, but you want them to live these lives and make their own mistakes. Well, you want them to be independent. Like that's there's so much, I think, that we see, and we've talked about this, Brian and I, where we can see things that are gonna go awry a little bit, but they have to live that out. And that's really hard, I think. Yeah. So I mean, Charlie's gonna be in high school and he's streaming soon. Well, that'll be its own level of terrifying. Yeah. So I think that those are the things. Sorry to cut you off. Okay. He's gonna be in high school and white. Oh, I don't know. Just making sure that he's keeping a head on a good head on his shoulders. And they are, they they're good boys, but every kid makes mistakes. I mean, we made a lot of mistakes in high school, I think. So many. I would like him to not make it I know, that's what you said. Uh so we wanted to make sure that we last time we really talked just about statistics of how often we worry and things that we worry about, and all the Bible verses about worry, and we really wanted to make sure that this time, because last time it got deleted, we really left some meaningful things. So I hope we did.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. I hope we did too. One other thing it said of just like good takeaways. If you really are spiraling, interrupt interrupting the spiral physically is a good thing to like go outside, put your phone down, put music on, do something, do workout, yeah. Yes, talk to someone. And then the other thing that well, two more things that we talked about. Um, one was take thoughts captive. And so asking yourself, does this sound like fear or does this wisdom? And then there was one more that I wanted to read. Where was that? Oh, replace lies with truth. And so one thing to know, truthfully, Samantha and I were just talking about this. Well, this sounds weird to say that with her, but she had asked in the car if Satan was real, and so it was just a little bit of that. And I was like, I said, of course, yes, he is, but we're not afraid of him because he's a liar. That's all, which I don't remember why she asked. It was not like a fear thing, but I was like, Oh yeah, he's heard it in a Bible story. Yeah, which she knows like who he is, but we just have to remember that Satan is a liar and that's what he wants us to believe. And he wants us, we said this earlier, to be distracted. I also read this thing recently that said he knows exactly how to attack you because you never stop saying it out loud. And when you're complaining, I was like, gosh, that one was a little bit convicting to me. But so, anyways, back to the thing replacing lies with truth, not toxic positivity, but actual grounded truth. So, an example of that, instead of saying like everything is falling apart, we say this is hard, but God has helped me before. And you just have to everything else that we've said so far, yeah, believe that it will turn out for the good. I love it. Okay. Okay. So one quick note as well from Jenny Allen, which if you're not in her, I get these from her Instagram group. It's just a joy of every day. It's always good stuff. She says the spiral of discouraging thoughts is real, but it's not unbreakable. You can go from self-doubt to peace in minutes. You don't have to fix every thought at once. What if you just grabbed one true thought and held on to it? One powerful truth can begin to shuffle the in Oops, one powerful truth can begin to shift the entire direction of your mind. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Philippians 4 7.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like that's our prayer. Amen. All right, have a great week.