Who You Voting For? Elaine Vs Ian!

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This week they’re talking; We need more everyday people in politics!

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Hi, I'm Ava. And I'm Abby. And you're listening to Ender's Afters.

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Where we use East Enders hot topics to talk about our real worlds.

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And have a good gossip.

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Welcome to the up.

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Welcome to the afters. So, Ava, what's your storyline? It is that normal everyday people should have the right and should be in politics. Yeah, baby.

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We've got Elaine running for counsellor on the square. She is, and she's just a publican, as Ian Bill said.

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Yeah. She loves karaoke.

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Oh, what? She's just a publican. Oh, a publican.

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I thought that was you said publican. Republican.

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It was meant to be republican, but it's not a good thing. It's someone that runs karaoke.

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You know, she loves karaoke. It's someone that runs pubs, isn't it? Oh. That's what that meant. That's what I mean, and like pubs are such an important place for community. And I feel like people that work, people that are from normal everyday lives understand the value of community. But they know what really needs to happen for that. Yeah. And we want, we don't want a coffee shop every five minutes. A hundred percent.

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Not gals, fucking, yeah.

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Have you seen Bloody Clap'em Common? Blank Street. I know you know, maybe some of you guys love a bit of blank street, but next to Starbucks.

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It's just warm sugar. It's next to Starbucks. I hate Starbucks.

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Do we need two coffee shops that everyone can drink matcha every five fucking minutes? No.

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No one likes matcha either. Stop lying. Yeah.

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You don't even eat vegetables when you're eating matcha.

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Yeah, in it.

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And also, I was on the bus the other day and I was like, when the sun's out, no shades people that live there, but everyone's in leggings and matcha and knick nick nicknick. It's just not a representation of how London is. Like it's just going that way.

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You know, Clapham is always has been and is so ranky. Do you know what it is?

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It's like back in the day it wasn't. It's gotten worse.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

No, no, not in this back in the day. It's a spot. I remember when I went and done some refugee work in Calais, and like all of like, you know, the uni kids that like have money but from the countryside, when they move into London, they go straight to Peckham. Peckham, not Peckham, sorry, Clapham. They go straight to Clapham. Back in the day when they found it, and then it's just one. Oh, there's a fly in my drink.

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We killed it.

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That is a representation of how I feel about them people that move in and trench by the area.

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She's lost the plot. But no, but back in the day it was rough, but now it's just it's too much. It's too much. We don't need a threat anywhere. It does look nice in there in Blank Street. It's shit. I've been in there and I've had a pistachio latte. Oh maybe it's getting that hand. It's just sugary drinking. It's rubbish. We're not, it's not America. But anyway. It's not proper coffee. So yeah, that's my take on. What was it again? Oh that normal people every day should have the right as well to. It shouldn't be some elitist that we can't be running and have opinions about our council.

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100%. We are brainwashed to think that we need these like performative puppets, like I don't know, like Boris Johnson or like who else that Rishi Suit? Like these performative, suited and booted old like idiots that are so out of touch with real life everyday situations. Say it now at all. But they're good at making a speech, but to be honest, most of them aren't even fucking good at that that you say. Well, no, we need people that understand. We need people that come up through like wanting to put back into their communities. And do you know what is a great representation? And yeah, we're gonna affiliate ourselves with a political party, and we ain't we ain't scared to do it. The Green Party. Zach Polanski, Jack Zach Polanski is a great example. I think he is probably from a middle class background, but he's Jewish, he's gay, he understands what it is to be from a minority, he un and he gets. Do you know what it is? Even if he might not have come from like the most poorest background, not everyone in politics has to come that. He goes out in the community and he fucking gets to know all of the people that he's trying to convince to vote for him. He doesn't just set make any wanky speeches trying to sell you the dream when he's working for the elite, he goes out and he understands what people need and want, and that's why they won that seat up in Manchester, you know, yeah. Hannah the plumber. Um, she was just a plumber, and then she decided to get into politics. And the reason she won it is because she just got to know her community and she understood what they want and said, That's what I'm gonna work for. And we've got that um councillor around here it running in Lambeth called Gico. It's a young black boy, yeah, and literally is I think he's must be younger than 25. That's amazing, really represents a different like you know, it doesn't have to just be old middle class men, yeah, it can be white men as well. We're bored of it. It is literally a sea of old middle class white men, yeah, and what a breath of fresh air. Yeah, he's getting out there, getting in the community. Yeah. We love him, we need to meet him. He needs to buzz up at ours.

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I know. We like don't don't knock all these friggin' council flats down. I know, don't get started on that.

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But yeah, it's a breath of fresh air, so get Elaine to win, even though Elaine's not my I don't Elaine's, I'm not Elaine's.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

But if she's uh she's up against Ian, I mean he's not the elite. He's not the most elitist human being, is he?

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He is though, he knows how to he'll sell out for the elite, do you know what I mean? He nearly done it with um back in the day on the old episodes I'm watching, he nearly sold out the local market. Or maybe that was more recently, like last year. Yeah, he tried to get rid of the market and he nearly sold out. Yeah, yeah, that's what happens.

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You give someone a bit of money and they sell out. That's Ian Bill. That's what they did with Elephant Castle, the um Southwark Council. They they but like years ago, these developers said, Oh, we'll buy it for we'll give you how much money. Now it's worth triple the friggin' price because it's zone friggin' one.

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And let's deep it and they sell it off here. Yeah, they do, they sell it off, and look at the stuff. It's such a yeah, ghost town, and no, no culture, no community, but that's what they want. And if we really deep it, this is what I think working class people need to know that have been sold the dream by certain politicians. Is that really all you have to bring it back to is you've got um a upper class man like Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson that have gone to private schools, they have not associated with all different types of people like you do in state schools from different walks of life, from different races, from different backgrounds, from different life. Um, and they've gone to private school, they've been given every opportunity to them. They might have studied and worked hard in that school and learnt a lot about politics, but they don't know everyday life like the rest of us. That is a small minority of the country. That's not most of the country, that's a very small, lucky, privileged minority. Why would we put the hands of the everyday person into like the lives of the everyday person into their hands when we could put it into their hands with someone with experience? For me, experience is so much more valuable than in academics. Yeah, I want experience. I don't want academics, yeah. And I think we're brainwashed to thinks that we just need to have really academic people in leadership bullshit.

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Because academic is just academic. There's no, like you can't. You need to have empathy, you need to have you need to have all of these other things which because we're humans, we we've lose sight of like what matters sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

That Nigel Farage went to Dulledge College, one of the most elite colleges in the country. He was racist as a kid. You think he understands what this country needs? Nah.

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Apparently, someone saw him down in Croydon. What are you doing down there, mate? Probably trying to And there was a still pan behind him because Croydon's a crazy place. Oh God, it's a crazy place, though. We love doing college. Shout out Croydon College. That's where I went.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Did you go to Croydon College?

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Yeah, I did the hair, the hairdressing. Jokes.

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I done that in Kingston.

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Kingston College. I've heard good things about that college.

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It's been gentrified. Well, no, it's good that they do it. Like I heard it's a good college. It's been done up now. They've completely they knocked all the university and all the college down and completely redone it about maybe like five, six years ago. When I was there, it was just a normal college. But you Kingston University is meant to be quite good, I think.

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Yeah, or maybe it's the university. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. It was like quite nice unique, it's not too large.

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Kingston Town is a really nice area. Whenever I say to people, this is I've almost stopped saying it because I'm not actually from Kingston. I'm on I'm in between like Wimbledon and Kingston, that's where I grew up. Sometimes I used to well back in the day I used to always say to people if people I spent from Kingston, and they'd go, ew! And that is not representative of the Kingston I grew up in. Like, like literally, if you ask someone about the Cambridge Estate, it's not all like that, you know what I mean. So I actually stopped saying Kingston and I would just say Tolworth, which is where I've literally lived. I've lived in so many houses around that borough, but like I'd be like Tolworth, you probably haven't heard of it because I was sick of people, yeah, but there is a side of Kingston that is really nice and bougie and gorgeous, yeah. And it's like along the river, and Kingston Town is stunning. But same as any place in the UK, you have your nice area, and yeah, not this nice area.

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We're more um we're not so segregated, yeah. We've got which is good, yeah.

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It's not like downtown in America, exactly.

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Like you can my school was like a quite rough school, but it was like in Pimlico.

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Yeah.

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So it's like, and a lot of schools are like that.

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And you probably had someone around the corner that was like living in this thing, but then you've got like you'd travel in from like Peckham Way and Exactly, but yeah, do you reckon Elaine's gonna do it?

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I think Ian's gonna win and he's gonna give it to her or something cute, like yeah, I think so too.

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Like at the last point, he'll leave her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then he'll leave B and again shag her.

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Yeah, and it won't even leave B or just cheat on B. I think he won't leave B. He'll cheat on B with Elaine, and B will see, and then B will have a vendetta against Elaine.

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And she'll start doing something crazy.

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That's someone else with serious mental health problems. And just rabbit. B is cuckoo, but the way she plays it, she plays it really well, but I find it so hard to watch. As an actor, yeah. As a character, I hate her. It's got that like Lily. Oh, I know. Even you being like that, people like that just give me the absolute tricks. And I hate it when people can't see what they're like.

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I know that annoys you as well.

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Oh, I know.

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It's like it's honey ain't stupid. Honey's gonna believe her. Overbiddy. Which because B's gonna do the AI thing of Billy's voice, isn't she? So Honey's gonna then believe her. But I mean you would if you were old and you didn't know about AI, would you? You always could sort of believe it. But would you? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

I don't know. And it's like anyway. I know. I feel like that that's that family's haven't. Even Will's getting a bit of a bigger part at the moment, yeah. You know, because he's had a lot of interactions with Nuggets, he's getting a few more lines in the script. I feel like that family is is coming, like their time's coming to have a big storyline, yeah, which is good.

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We love Billy.

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I know we love Billy, we love Will, I love Will. He's such a nice book, I know. It's not even a real. I think it's amazing that they've had a young, disabled person in it for so many years as well with Janet. Yeah, I think it's really good, and I think she's been, I think I was reading up and say matters the whole time. Yeah, it has been, yeah, which is beautiful. I love that. This is it with these senders, they give so many opportunities to so many different people and to so many different storylines that are so important.

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I know. They might all be shagging each other and insist, but they're they're very varied in storylines just shows you can change one minute you can work at the VIC, the next you are a mental health coach, the next minute you've got mental health, literally.

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Um, but yeah, get get Elaine in, I reckon. Get Elaine in. If you've changed your tune. Only because it's between Elaine and Ian, and I think out of the church. Yeah, because Ian's not like Ian might be in the community, but he doesn't care that much about the community.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

He doesn't, he's a sellout on our heart, and you don't need people like that. But you know what, everyday people like us can still be sell-outs. Oh, human beings. Human beings are just crazy in general. For a bit of money. He swing a bit of money in front of someone.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

That's how it's come from. We've got a Prime Minister that was once a human rights lawyer and is now committing human rights, breaking human rights laws. Because people sell out. So, yeah. What is your dift of? What's your final difter? People are sellouts, people are sell out. Do you know what I mean? That's why we need really authentic people in politics. How do you sell?

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I think once it gets whiffed under your nose, everyone goes a bit cookie. I don't think everyone does.

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I think some people keep their integrity. Look at Jeremy Corbyn, he's had a life of it. He's had a life in.

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You love a bit of Jesse B, don't you? I do.

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I see faults in like I think he's a little bit dated for what we need of the country, but I will stand by the fact that man has never sold out. He might not have shown up in every single way we've need him to, but he's never sold out. Fair enough. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and like we just should have more people like that won't sell out because they they understand what they care more about their community.

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And it's nice to have the local, like you've got your local elections, they're very important, those things. That's next week, baby. That's not the same thing. Yeah, I need to do that. Like, it is very important. If they work or not, I don't know, but you know. Let's hold another podcast.

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