Friend or Fraudster?

We use Eastenders hot topics to chat about our real worlds and have a good gossip!

Each week Abi and Ava use Eastenders storylines to talk about whats going on in their own and the wider world. 

This week they’re saying; People who steal from friends should be shunned!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hi, I'm Ava. And I'm Abby. And you're listening to Ender's Afters.

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Where we use East End as hot topics to talk about our real worlds.

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And have a good gossip.

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Welcome to the afters. Welcome to the afters. Abby, what's your storyline, babes? My storyline this week is if you steal from your friends, you need to be shunned for life. Shunned. The way B taking a credit card out in Honey's name. And Honey, of all people, the nicest person on this planet, definitely in Wolford. And fraud and debt. Fraud and debt, I know.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

That's crazy. I don't know how she's doing that and not feeling the guilt. She's she's gotten ahead of herself.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

She's bonkers. And the worst thing is she's buying stuff for them with the money, which is which is almost worse because it's like, what the actual fuck? She's manipulating them into liking her more by doing that. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

She's a character that people either love or hate, isn't she, at the moment? Because she's cuckoo.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

You love to hate her, or you just straight hate her. But she is another level of crazy. I I'm glad they put her out as well. Yeah, finally. Back sleeping in McClunkies for the night.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Because the bloody we love honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

We love honey, and I just don't like how it is. It makes me so unnerved. I think I said this in a previous episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you hate you hate watching her. Yeah, I find her hard to watch, but also we love these sorts of characters. It's giving Stella energy.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yeah.

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Do you remember?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Yeah.

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But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I think it's okay. People steal a lot from their family members as well. Especially when there's like addiction, like you hear a lot of stories like that, or people like just desperately needing something. And family is the first point of contact.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Do you know why? Because when you steal from family as opposed to friends, there's a good chance you'll actually be forgiven at some point.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. That's why it's the first point of contact.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

It's like Yeah, because it's okay, I'll get forgiveness. Even if it's not straight away, I'll be forgiven at some point.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Yeah, and you can make amends because family, well, it depends on your family situation, but hopefully you can make amends. Whereas with friends, you could people cut ties very easily, don't they?

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Yeah, in Eastenders, like they all seem to come back around because everyone steals from everyone. I know. And they all seem to get forgiveness in the end. But in the real world, you do not I don't know how you ever come back from from a friend stealing from you.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Obviously, it really depends on the situation, but I do not know how you come back from that because like that is some mad level of trust. How do you have a friendship without trust?

SPEAKER_00 2:35

And that is some mad level of trust that theft is like the ultimate distrust, isn't it?

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But also someone putting money in front of your friendship. I have a mad story. Tell us basically. I used to hang around when I was young, like 18, 19, with a friendship group, and there was maybe like seven of the girls, and they were all friends from primary school, like all friends from really young. That was their like whole thing of how long they'd been friends for. And um, so that's how like deep their friendship run. And there was one girl in the group that had done a few shady things over the year, like she years, she had got with like a friend's ex or whatever, and here and there and she'd done this to this girl and this to this girl. But the way it all like played out through the years is she kind of upset one person at a time, so even if the other friends didn't agree, she never got like shunned from the group. She might have like been told about herself or not spoken to one of them, and a lot of them like did kind of flow like that, where they'd be closer to one and there was fallouts, like there would be never anything too deep, but she was the one that would always do the thing that was a bit too deep. She went away travelling. This this one girl went away travelling with two of the other girls, happened to be like probably two of the most sweet-natured out of the whole group, because the group consists of lots of personalities, and some of them are quite feisty, but the two that she went away with are probably the most sweet-natured and least feisty, so that's what makes it even worse. And basically, while they were away on holiday, they realised they was in not on holiday travelling, they were in Cambodia and they realised that their money was being taken, so they were like, What the fuck? Like, rah rah rah. They was at they went to the Cambodian police, and the police basically threatened them. You know how it can be in some countries, and basically said, if you keep complaining, we're gonna like I don't know, we they threaten them with whatever they were gonna do to them. The friend comes along for the whole ride, going to the police, oh my god, rah rah rah. And one of them just clocked, you know, and your instincts tell you something. And I think she'd done shady things throughout the years, so it's yeah, your instinct never likes. Yeah, so the instinct already kind of was informed about how she was as a person. Two of them, this the robber, the thief, the thief, and another one went out to dinner, and one of them, because her intuition told her, she said, I'll catch you up, I'm just gonna do something. And she went into her toilet bag, and all of their money was in there. And she texted the other friend, and then and then the the thief girl caught wind of it and basically disappeared. But they had her passport, they put it on Facebook. This was quite a while ago now, they put it on Facebook, and the girl refused to go back there to get her passport, she would not face up to it. Put it on Facebook, everyone knew it was a whole big scandal. The girl basically managed to get her stuff without seeing them, go off to Australia, and no one has ever heard from her again.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

I know. Now I'm sure they I haven't spoken to these girls in a long time. I'm sure if I asked them, they may have heard from her again or like she may be they know where she lives now, or she might have moved back from Australia, blah blah blah blah. But at the time, for years, she just moved to Australia and never heard from again. A few years later, I had another friend that I knew separately that I'd met when I was travelling in Thailand, went to um went to Australia, put up a picture with the girl. I texted her, I was like, come run! Babe, you need to be and she went, Do you know what's so funny? I she gives me like a funny feeling, like blah blah blah. I was like, this is what she done. Like, rah rah rah. But yeah, that's funny. She was shunned. She was shunned.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

It's kind of like one thing doing it one time and then another and then another thing doing it. People have compulsive.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

This is it because I think she had like a mental health compulsion thing, and but she literally was allowing them to go through the distress of being robbed from, allowing them to go through the distress, going with them to the police, being threatened by the police, not saying anything. And they were like, Do you know what the worst thing about it is? If she needed to borrow money, we would have given it to her in a heartbeat. We would have happily given it to her. I think it was.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

But we didn't even want the money. I just wanted the money. I don't think she even needed it.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

She just managed to move to Australia.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

It's that um impulse.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

She was tapped, she'd done a few tap things over there, and she had a lot of trauma from when she was younger there, but that's not an excuse. But yeah, she likes she, I think she was just tapped. But it's that's the extenders level shit.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

I had a I knew someone who had this partner, this man, who turned out to be like a Tinder swindler, who like was going along with their relationship, and then but getting money off her, yeah, getting a bit of money, but also he had this whole story about his life.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

And then she started piecing it together because everyone she introduced him to, he would tell like a different story.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yeah, because they can't help it because they're so deluded, they don't realise you're catching on to it.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

He really used to live like in another um bit of England, but it turns out he like lived five minutes down the road, and he was like he like it was a spider web of lies.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

How did she find out?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Because he said that his partner had died of something, and then he said she died of something else, and that she was like, What the fuck? Like how can you have it was something too random?

SPEAKER_01 7:50

And then how did she get all the real information?

SPEAKER_00 7:52

I think it just all ended up kind of coming out, yeah, and I think she confronted him and it was all a lie. All a lie. Crazy, and they get you at your weakest.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Oh, yeah, they they work out who they get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's crazy. She'd done some mad stuff, she'd got with like her boyfriend's best friend and stuff like this scale as well. So she just had like clapped morals. I think some people just like almost want to like be the villain, but she kind of wanted to be the victim at the same time as I think she was a bit mentally on.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Because you're lying constantly, she was a crazy, yeah, and then you're getting caught up in the web of lies, and then it's like you know, a normal person's like, okay, I gotta stop, like hold my hands up to whatever happened, but you just don't really tell that deeper lies like when you're a normal person.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Maybe a little white lie, but you don't tell like big deep lies when you're normal. Crazy But you can be normal and tell lies on Extenders On Eastenders perfectly normal and get into a deep dark web of lying.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

I know. B's gone deep.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah, she's not the first person to be stealing from people. No, especially family and Extenders.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Yeah, they love a good theft on the money. It is fun though.

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We love it.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

I love that film, Catch Me If You Can. Oh, yeah, with the I love that film because he's just like a full-on.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah, I like that. I mean, like Rob from Rob Rob the Government. Yeah, rob the government, rob the system, rob the rob big businesses and stuff like that. Absolutely. But not your friends.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

Yeah, not your friends, yeah, because you that's the hot take.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Yeah, you won't be shunned. Yeah, yeah, literally. Well, as well, like you've got the storyline of like, I suppose it is a robin, but like um, you know, Johnny and Callum have just had their thing, it was all about money as well. To get the money, he slept with, he slept with the guy to get money. I know. There's always something with money on East Enders.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

I know.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

That none of them have any shame to get.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

That's what I mean. If you were Callum, would you be like, eh, I understand, or would you be like, come on?

SPEAKER_01 10:01

I still think that's unforgivable, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Like Callum should have Johnny should have told Callum what the situation was. They always do that in East Enders.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

I'm just gonna do the bad thing and then reap the rest after rather than speak to my partner about it or speak to my mum and say I need the money and blah blah blah. But yeah, I suppose that's where like a Nicola is like trying to essentially get the money off of um George's dad, Eddie Knight. Yeah. They'll do anything for a bit of Downey Stenders, including steal from the family. Yeah, always boils down to But I suppose they don't have any big corporations to steal from. Only the Minute Mob. The Minute Mob. The Minute Mob. But I think that's been fleeced a few times, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Surely over the years.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Priya stole the car from the car lot.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

What can you do?

SPEAKER_01 10:47

As if she's still got a job, that's so jokes.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

I know.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Totally fine, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Take your car, have your job.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Yeah, because even with this situation, I think you still probably would get the sack.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

A little bit. You don't get sacked at the square.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

No, you never get sacked in the square.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

It's a booming business, everyone's gotta contribute.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Yeah, exactly. We need these storylines to keep on running. What's your final gift of? My final gift div is steal from the rich and give to the poor, not steal from your friends.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

Take from the corporations, babe, if you need the dollar.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Take a little quasant from Saintsbury's if you need to.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Yeah, not your mate.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Take an extra pasta donata in the bag if you need to.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Literally, and if bees bees, yeah. And if bees is clever, not that I do, why ain't she like robbing from McClunkies or something? Not that not that she should, because that's probably a small business, but you know what I mean? Why are you robbing from your best friend?

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Rob from Ian.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Rob from Ian!

SPEAKER_00 11:42

How is she not robbing from Ian when she's shagging him? Maybe she they should make her do that next.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

If they haven't, I'll be disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Then she'd be a serial fraud star. That would be good.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Yeah, and frauding the right person, tight Rian.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah.

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So there we go. Rob from Ian, give to the poor.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah.

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There we go.

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Like, subscribe, comment. Have you been a victim of fraud?

SPEAKER_01 12:04

If you've been a victim, of course. Of course. And I'm really sorry about that because it's not nice. No, it's not nice. If you have, write down below. I've been a victim of fraud. So we know you've watched this far along. Like, subscribe. We'll see you next time.