"Your Dad Was a Big Old Slut" | DNA Tests, Half-Siblings & Family Secrets Revealed

In this episode, we share one of the wildest plot twists our family has experienced so far: finding out Julie has a 16-year-old half-sister she never knew existed. What started as a casual search into ancestry and possible Canadian citizenship quickly turned into a shocking DNA discovery through AncestryDNA. We talk through the moment the “half-sister” match appeared, the emotional spiral that followed, and the complicated reality of learning your estranged, drug-addicted father secretly had another child.

As the story unfolds, we dive into the messy emotions surrounding family secrets, generational trauma, addiction, and what happens when DNA testing changes someone’s entire identity overnight. Julie opens up about her dad’s history with addiction, infidelity, and abandonment, while also navigating the guilt, curiosity, anger, and hope that come with suddenly gaining a sibling later in life. We also talk about the emotional weight of meeting a biological sibling for the first time, how this impacts existing family relationships, and the unexpected way this discovery may force Julie to finally confront her father again after years of no contact.

This episode is part family mystery, part emotional processing, and part “this sounds fake but somehow it’s real.” From awkward Facebook stalking and therapy breakthroughs to preparing for an emotional first meeting, this conversation explores how complicated family connections can be—and how DNA tests can completely rewrite the story you thought you knew about your life.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

I'm Ryan.

SPEAKER_03 0:06

I'm Julie.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

And this is the stories we leave you.

SPEAKER_03 0:12

Alright. Welcome back. Today we are talking about what's new with Julie. A little surprise I got. Yeah, found out that I have a half-sister. A half-sister? What? You tell. I will tell. How'd that happen? Actually, right after we recorded my childhood episode, it was either Monday or Tuesday after that. So we recorded on Saturday or Sunday and Monday or Tuesday. We were talking about whether or not either of us had Canadian citizenship in our ancestry line. Oh yeah, we were like full force. Yeah. So it was like, hey, let's check this out. Let's see if we have it. I got onto my ancestry account. So originally I had done the DNA testing because my dad is adopted and I wanted to see if I could find any like relatives or whatever, just out of curiosity, really. And my dad, I actually bought him an ancestry DNA kit for like Christmas or something. And he did it as well. And so we actually ended up finding his family through Ancestry, but that's a story for another day. So we're looking for Canadian citizenship and our ancestry. And I'm like, hey, I should get on my ancestry account because I know they have like a family tree thing on there, and I can see if I can find anything out. And I got on there, I kind of looked around, you know, went to the matches, and all of a sudden it dawned on me that there was someone there who hadn't been there before, and it wasn't a name, it was just initials, and it said half sister or niece. And what happened in your body? Uh I think maybe my heart stopped a little. I was kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, did I read that right? And I'm trying to figure out like, okay, it how accurate is this? Like, are those the words that it means, or could it mean something else?

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Right, like the first cousin twice removed.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Yeah. So I was like, is this like how for sure is this? And I looked around at the account, and it was run by someone else who, again, her name is actually like initials. So I was like, what is this? Like all these initials, and who are these people? So I, you know, did what any good millennial would do, and I popped her name into Facebook and I found her account.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Proper proper stocking.

SPEAKER_03 2:53

Yeah. Just allowed stocking. Did a little stocky stock. So I found her account. And so at this point, I'm like, okay, I think maybe this is like the parent of the actual person who is listed as my half-sister. So I actually screenshotted her profile picture and sent it to both of my brothers and said, Hey, this person is showing up as a half-sister or a niece on my account who's been putting their dick where? And do you know this woman?

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Verbatim.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Both of my brothers were like, no, I don't know her.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Did you think it was from one of your brothers?

SPEAKER_03 3:32

I didn't really, no, not really.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Or did you just in the back of your mind you're like, oh, this has gotta be my dad?

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Oh, I definitely assumed it was my dad, but I wanted to double check with my brothers and also just see if they knew her, especially Justin, because Justin has lived around that area. He's been around my dad more, so I thought maybe he would know who she was.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

And yeah, I mean the dick thing was kind of just joking, but what was your ratio percentage-wise of shocked versus not shocked? Or I should say, is it surprising?

SPEAKER_03 4:06

I can't give you a ratio. I will say it was not surprising because more not surprising than surprising. Correct. Because the first time my mom ever said anything to me, I remember I was a teenager and she mentioned this girl that my dad used to date in like high school or right after high school. I guess like around the time he started dating my mom. It was like before around that time. And she was like, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up having a half sibling because he like David. Yeah. And I was always kind of like, Oh, okay. So that was like the first time the thought was kind of put in my head. And I mean, he cheated on my mom. There was a friend who he later, after my parents divorced, he dated for a while. And it came out later that like they'd been sleeping together based on my parents' whole marriage. Her youngest kid, her husband actually had him DNA tested to make sure he was his because he thought he might be my dad's. Yeah, which that's news to me. He was not my dad's.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Ah, your dad was a big old slut.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Yes. My dad actually told me, I guess, over three years ago, because we haven't talked in three years, that he basically, oh, when we started the DNA thing, he told me then, hey, if you ever have a half sibling show up, here's the story. So the story that he gave me was that when he was working on the road, there was a hotel that he stayed at, and next to it was a restaurant that they ate at all the time. And the waitress and him hooked up during like several times during his time there. Like I think this was over the course of a few months. He said that towards the end of it, she had missed her period and that they had talked about it and agreed that they would go their separate ways because he already had a family, blah, blah, blah. But there was no confirmation of pregnancy. Now, that would have been when I was a little kid. Uh-huh. Okay. So you could have. Yeah. So I've always assumed I probably actually did have a half sibling or two or three or more, but to actually like see it. Yeah, I was like, whoa, hold up. This is crazy. So I messaged who I now know is her mom through ancestry and said, Hey, I noticed that I have a connection to this person, potentially a half-sister. Would you happen to know more about that? And she basically told me that her and my father had had a relationship. So I would have been, she's only a few years older than me. So this would have been like my late twenties. Him and my mom were already divorced. He had already been to jail. You and I were already together. Yeah, we were already together.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

We were already divorced.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

Yeah, it was around the time I think that my grandfather died. And basically they had dated. Apparently, there was a lot of drug use together. She informed me that at the time he was still making meth. So it was a rough time together, and basically she got pregnant. She said that she told him about it, and he basically told her that he already had kids, he couldn't afford the kids that he had, and he had no interest in being involved. And at some point after that, they went their separate ways.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

But she wasn't just pregnant with one.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

No. So it turns out she was pregnant with twins, boy and girl. So I had a half-sister and a half-brother, but my half-brother passed away when he was two years old. I don't know the story on that yet. I will find out at a later date. I didn't want to, you know, dig too deep when we literally had just met that day through messaging. So that seemed a little deep for our first conversation. Yeah, so my half-brother passed away when he was only two. And I have a half-sister who is now 16 and is growing up going to the same school that I went to, lives in the same town that I grew up in, which is so weird.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

That's weird for me.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Like she's growing up with kids who are the kids that people I went to school with. Yeah. So, and I did ask the mom, like, when did you live in this town? Because I don't remember you from school, and she had just moved there four years before she got pregnant. Yeah. So luckily it wasn't like someone that I went to school with, because that would have been really weird. So when I asked her mom, her exact words were, Yes, I got pregnant. He is the sperm donor, or something like that. She called him sperm donor. And my reply was, So when you say sperm donor, we're talking like you guys had relations, but he's an asshole. And she was like, Yes, exactly. So at first, my half-sister did not want to have anything to do with anybody. So she grew up believing that this other person, well, I don't want to say believing that this other person was her father, because this other person was her father.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Is her father?

SPEAKER_03 9:35

Is her father. Biologically, he did not help create her, but his name is on her birth certificate. He was there when she was born. He's been the person who raised her, and that's all she's ever known. So when they did the DNA test, her mom essentially saw that my dad popped up and was like, Okay, time to have the conversation. So within the span of two weeks, she found out that her father was not her biological father, that she had this sperm donor who essentially is not a good person and is also in the hospital. And that she has three new siblings.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

So that was a lot for her, I'm sure. Lots of mixed emotions, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

I mean, you seem pretty quick to accept it. Yeah. Because I mean, I don't know, in in my opinion, for me, I think I would be super hesitant to just say, Oh yeah, I have a sister. But like you just seem so comfortable with it.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

I mean, whether even if we like meet each other and end up hating each other and are never in each other's lives again, she's my sister either way, like biologically. There's no like denying that.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Yeah. Like my mind would probably I don't know. I could see myself being like, well, yeah, my dad poured around and had another kid.

SPEAKER_03 11:01

Yeah. And I think so. This is actually something that her and I just talked about. We've been texting a little bit, only a few times, but we talked about how it sucks that we've missed out on all this time of knowing each other. But I also told her that I tend to believe that things happen for a reason and that timing happens for a reason. And I think if I would have found out that my dad got someone pregnant when I was like 26 years old, at that point, I don't think I would have been as open to the idea of meeting her because I was keeping my dad at a very big distance because he was extremely toxic. He, like at that point, I would get calls from the former girlfriend. She would call and be like, Oh, he's doing this, he's doing that, he's talking about killing himself. And like, it was just such a toxic thing that I was like, I don't want anything to do with that. And I was very judgmental about the women that he would end up with.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

And you would put them in that box.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Yes. And so I think that if I would have found out at the time, I would have been more of that attitude of like, oh, my dad knocks somebody up, like great. But now having distance from that time, and obviously like being older, having a family of my own, I think it's different now.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Well, I just find it super ironic that we were trying to find lineage to tie us to Canada. It's like, hold on, hold on, hold on. You have a half sibling where you grew up. Like stop looking backwards in time in Canada like it's happening right now in your hometown.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

Yes. Like I went from being like, okay, do we have Canadian citizenship? Like being very focused on that to switch flip to oh my god, I have a sister. Like my brain was going crazy that whole day. Her mom and I became Facebook friends. I like went through all these pictures, like looking at pictures of her as like a little kid and all of this stuff. When I went to bed that night, I took hours to fall asleep because my brain was just like all over the place. That wasn't the same night you finished your book, was it? No.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Because that would have been a doozy.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

No. I don't remember if I even read my book that night. I think my brain was too like. So I became very hyper focused on it that day. And like we ended up, her mom called me and we actually talked on the phone, and it was cool. She seems cool. I like her so far.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

So when are you gonna meet her?

SPEAKER_03 13:37

It's still so crazy and weird that she's my age though.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

So uh yeah, I keep thinking, oh man, you're old enough to be your half-sister's mom, but oh wait, her mom is our age. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

I mean it's weird. She could be our kid. She's only four years older than Grayson and Olivia. Oh, it's like her mom? Uh uh. No. No, my sister. But yeah, so she's only four years older than our oldest children. Like, I could be her mom. I'm old enough. And not even like a teen pregnancy. I could be her mom. Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

You're so we're out of the the oh, you were a teen mom. No, like you were a full-blown adult and could have this kid at her age.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

Yeah. Anyway, so she gave me her number and I texted her the next day, and I basically just told her, like, hey, I know this is like super weird. I'm sure there's lots of mixed emotions. I just want you to know, like, there's zero pressure. I have no expectations for this relationship. You know, because I don't want her to think like, oh, come here, you're my family, you're gonna be the sister and like overwhelm her. Another lifetime movie. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, I want to give you like space to take this at your pace because I know this is probably a lot, like finding all of this out, finding out you have siblings, so you know, and let her know, hey, of course, I would love to meet you. If you have any questions, let me know. And, you know, she was like, Yeah, I do want to meet you. Definitely weird, mixed emotions. And like I said, we've texted a little bit since then. So we are actually going to meet this weekend, her, her mom, her boyfriend, and I forget what my text said about somebody else. There's like four of them coming. Bringing a posse. Hey, they don't know us, we're strangers. They need a posse.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

I did ask your mom when we were fishing. I was like, so do you have any opinions or feels about Julie having a half-sister? And she was like, No, not really. No. She's like, it's more, it's more Julie's thing.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

Yeah. Then I think that again, I think the time, like having that distance between that time and now, finding out, if my mom would have found out then, she probably, even though they were divorced, she probably would have had more feelings about it. She probably would have been more pissed off to find out he knocked someone up. But now, like she's had so many years away from my dad, I feel like it's kind of it doesn't ha yeah, it doesn't have a lot to do with her.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Uh, Finley's all excited.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Yes. So Finlay's excited. We they said that they wanted to come visit, and I let them know like what weekends we were available. This weekend happens to be when we are celebrating Finley's birthday. So we booked a pavilion at the park, and so we're just gonna do a cookout. They're gonna come in town Saturday, and we're gonna meet before that, and then I invited them to the cookout, and we're gonna play it by ear from there. Are you beating them by yourself? I just gave them our address, actually, just like an hour ago. So I think they're playing this come here. Hope they're not stereo killers.

unknown 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:41

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

I don't think I don't know. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 16:44

Well, and there's even like first of all, let me just say that I watch too many movies, too many TV shows, and I watch too much true crime. So there's that little part of my brain that's like, what if this is like an elaborate plan and they found me on purpose and they plan to extort me from my millions. They didn't find you, you found them. Exactly. But also like literally we're DNA related. Like, it's not like they just made it up. Let's just hope it's but also I don't have millions for them to extort, so they'd be it's uh sorely disappointed.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Lifetime moving situation.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

Yeah. So they are coming to visit this weekend. I'll be meeting her for the first time. Also, she has decided she wants to meet my dad.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Yay, what does that mean for you?

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Yeah. So I was like, okay, that's cool. She can go meet my dad. I can connect her with the right hospital if I need to be there to be like, yeah, she's legit. We share DNA, let her go in. But when I mentioned to her mom that, yeah, I don't think there's any restrictions on visitors, like you guys should be able to go without me. She was like, Well, I think she wanted you to be there. So a part of me was like, but you know, I was like, that's fine, I will do that for her. I want to be there to support her. Like, this is a lot. Finding out about him, him being a jerk, all of that is a lot. So if that's what she needs for me to be there to help support, I'm okay with that. I did tell her when we talked this week. I was like, just so you know, I haven't seen him in three years. And he just came up here to the hospital in January and has been there since. I don't know, besides what I've heard from my aunt, what his mental state is. So I don't know how his memory is. I don't know, like how with it he is. So in January he had a brain bleed, two brain bleeds, actually, that they were able to go in and I guess like stop the bleeding and whatever. So he's okay now, but obviously, like there's some decline. He and he has an L VAD, so he has to be in a facility. He cannot go live on his own anymore. So they're trying to get him into a facility. So right now he's in the hospital. So, you know, I let her know I don't know what his mental state is. And she immediately was like, Oh my gosh, if you don't want to go in and see him, like you don't have to. And I'm like, Well, why don't we play it by ear and we'll see how I feel when I get there. I had therapy on Tuesday this week, and I talked to my therapist about it. And basically, when I kept talking to her about it, the way I explained it was that I kind of see myself going in and being like, Hey dad, and then hey, do you remember this person? And this is my half-sister. And she was like, You realize whenever I ask you about this, you already see yourself going in the room. And she's like, So maybe we trust that.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

I see you going in the room. Yeah. There's no way you're not going in the room.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

So basically, what I told my therapist is that I feel like ultimately there's a part of me that wants to go in and see him. I've even thought about like taking Violet to meet him. So obviously it's very complicated. But I've already like pictured myself even without her in the picture going in to see him, whether it's just to go in and say hi, here are your grandkids, here's the grandkid you've never met, and that's the end of it. Or if I go in and I'm like, hey, I'm really pissed at you before you die. I need to tell you that like I'm annoyed that you've never once in your life taken any kind of accountability for anything that you've done. You never apologize, but you act like I should forgive you. And so I feel like I told my therapist, I feel like this is an opportunity to almost use her as a buffer.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

You guys are using each other as buffers.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Yeah, for sure. Almost like a little like dipping my toe in the water because I'm not gonna lie, like a part of me because I haven't seen him in so long.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

You're gonna cry.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Well, it's not even about the crying. It's I think I'm scared to even like see what he looks like or see what his mental state is because I haven't seen him in so long. I don't know what to expect.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

So I feel like that's kind of like her being here will kind of like force me to go in, but also give me that buffer of like it doesn't have to be about our shit right now. It can be about this other thing right now. And as my therapist said, I see some really hard compartmentalization lines being drawn. It's a hard word. I'm not even attempted. So I'm like, yes, 100%. I plan on putting those feelings into a box, putting them away for that day because it's not about us that day.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

I feel like they're in the box, but the box has been moved front and center, and you're like kicking it. Back. Like, no, no. Just not not yet.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

Yeah. So I'm not gonna lie, like, I'm nervous to meet her. I'm excited, but also nervous.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

I mean, at least you're not meeting her like at the hospital for the first time, like, hey, you're my house sister.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Let's go meet your sperm donor, my dad. So, yeah, I don't know. It's complicated. There's that part of me that kind of like keeps my walls up a little just because I'm afraid sometimes to accept people in because I'm like, what are they gonna be like? Am I going to not like them? It's a lot of work. And that's probably some kind of also like keeping myself from getting hurt. No, I think that's our mechanism.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

I think that's our whole generation. Well, yeah. The older we get, the more we don't want to connect with people.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Yeah. Which I will say I have seen on both of their Facebook pages that they support trans people. So if nothing else, that's good. They've got that going for them. And that makes me feel more at ease.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

So in a nutshell. You have a half-sister that's kind of cosmically forcing you to step back into it with your dad.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Yeah. To deal with my shit. I'm looking forward to meeting her. I'm like indifferent.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

A part of me kind of like feels like an asshole because I'm just like, okay, cool, you have a half-sister, but like it has nothing to do with me. Yeah. And I mean that I'm I it sounds bad, but like I'm totally fine with that. Yeah. Well but also I think that this is not something that I mean, unless you want me super involved, which I wouldn't expect you'd be like, yes, come with me, hold my hand, be my support person. I see you conquering this alone by yourself doing your thing. And be like, if you can just take care of the kids in the house and everything else. Pretty much. While I go deal with my life.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

My therapist did tell me that I need to set reminders on my phone to check in with myself and just see how I'm feeling, how I'm doing, if I need a break or anything. My I haven't talked to my brothers a lot about it. Uh Jeremy, in true Jeremy fashion, when I told him that dad got someone else pregnant, he said you gross. And then when I said, So we have a half sister, she's 16, he said, cool. And that's, you know, he's a man of few words. But he last I knew he does plan to be there Saturday to meet her as well. My other brother, Justin, he is, I would call him the more like feely, touchy one.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Well, that just sounds ido-like.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

I he's didn't say he's touching little kids. He's more he okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

He's more sensitive and emotional.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

He's more sensitive, he's more likely to express and say things. He likes to talk.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

So he'll hug you goodbye, he'll hug you hello, he'll tell you he loves you.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He like he seemed excited about it. He was like, Yeah, that's cool. And you know, we agreed like dad's a dumbass, and I don't know if he's gonna be able to make it or not. It's kind of pending, so we'll see. But the kids know about it. Bray and Live were kind of like, Oh, okay, cool. You have a sister. Finley has been the most interested in it.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

He's like, Well I get to meet my aunt.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Yeah, he's like, What is her name? And I told him, I'm like, this is her full name, but I think they call her this for short. And he was like, Well, what do I call her? I'm like, Well, you can call her aunt, and then her short name, just like you say, like Uncle Jeremy, Uncle Justin. He was like, Okay, yeah, I think I want to do that. So and he did keeping it simple. Yeah. So he was excited to meet her. He's excited there's gonna be someone else in the family.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

So what are what are your emotions right now knowing you're gonna meet her on Saturday? Like, what are your top three emotions about that and seeing your dad again? Gosh. Should we make it five? Top five? No. Let's keep it to three.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

I am Don't think about it.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Just say it.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Okay. First of all, I already told you. I'm excited about meeting her. I'm nervous about meeting her because one, uh She's a stranger. She's a stranger. I hope that I like her. I hope that she likes me. I hope that everybody gets along.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

I mean, she's 16, so she probably hates the world right now.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Well, yeah, and it's like, hey, here I am. I'm your sister, but also I'm old enough to be your mom.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Well, it's almost like a sister aunt. Like it would make more sense if you were like sisters with her mom. Yeah. Because you guys are the same age.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Yeah, so I feel like that part is a little bit weird. So I don't know, like I know there's gonna be a lot of like just meeting each other and navigating it. But like I told my therapist when I first talked about it, I had just told her the session before when I was walking out the door, I was like, we obviously aren't gonna talk about it right now, but can you make a note that I want to talk about how to make friends? And then I came back the next session and like, hey, I have a half-sister. So I told her I was like, How am I supposed to get to know her if I don't even know how to make friends? Anyway, I don't know how to get to know people, especially it's so hard through texting, talking on the computer. Like I have people that I want to be friends with, but I'm like, I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

It's so much work. Like I'm curious to meet her, but I'm more curious to meet her mom because she's our age. Age bracket. Yeah. And what she thinks about it. Because like this guy she had sex with created her daughter, but then he also created you.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

And that's that's a big part of it too, is for me, I'm already pissed at my dad for the way he is, just in life in general.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

For existing.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

But now knowing that he had this opportunity to do the right thing and he didn't do it, and he left her alone in her pregnancy, especially with twins, no matter how many babies they are, it's still hard.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Yeah, but you're also a twin mom, so it's like there's a lot of like parallel situations, and it's like you know what that had yeah, you've been through that and how hard it was, and the fact that this guy is just like, no.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

Yeah, sorry. So like I'm mad at him for doing that to her.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

It just adds to the layers.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

I'm mad that he might have hurt my half sister by choosing not to be a part of her life. But also I'm kind of pissed at him, like he took that away from me, the opportunity to like know her. I never had the opportunity to get to know my half brother, which in some way it's like maybe I was saved from some heartbreak because I didn't know him before he passed away. So maybe I was saved from that. But at the same time, like that's also unfair. I didn't get to know him. But what but also again it goes back to timing. I don't know if I would have been as open and receptive to meeting them then.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

But also he told you about this when I was a trucker and whatever, I fooled around with this. Well, and that's what I don't know. Lady, it's like, why would he not tell you about this one?

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Why would you tell me about that one and not tell me about this one?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Like he knew about a confirmed pregnancy.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

And whether or not he knew it was twins or not.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

And that's another matter, but like Yeah. That's another thing that I'm really interested to see when I go to see him because I don't know what his memory is like. It's like, one, he was on a lot of drugs back then. So is he going to remember everything anyway? Two, he's had so many, I mean, he's had several strokes, the brain bleeds now, you know, heart problems. He's had all kinds of shit happen to him that have caused memory problems. So I don't know if he like we could go in and be like, oh, remember when you know you like had sex with this person and created a child and then abandoned them? And he may be like, no, and like really mean it.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

What if he doesn't know who you are?

SPEAKER_03 30:09

You know, I thought about that too, because he hasn't seen me in a while. I think that he would still remember me, but also I've lost weight. What I kind of see happening is like he'll know who I am or he'll think I'm my mom because my hair's gotten so gray. And maybe he thinks my sister is like Olivia or something like that. I anticipate there might be confusion.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Oh, there would be for anyone in any state. Yeah. And then like, I'm sorry, who what?

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Yeah. And like I honestly, I don't know if he's gonna remember. He may say he doesn't remember and he's lying, or he may say he doesn't remember and he genuinely doesn't remember. But I also don't know how he's gonna feel about seeing me. If he's gonna be emotional, like what that's gonna be. If he's gonna be emotional to find out about his half kid, or it's not his half kid, it's his whole kid.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

It's my sister. It made sense to me. Half kid. I mean, I don't know how that works. Science hasn't gotten that one down yet. She's my half-sister, your whole kid.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

But yeah, so I think that's a big part of it, is just like that unknown piece of I have no idea what his memory is like, what his reaction is gonna be. My aunt said that he's been emotional because you know he has been here since January in the same hospital. My aunt was his only visitor when she was here from New York, and uh. So I don't know if he's even had any other visitors or anything. I don't know. He may go into shock of a heart attack right there. I don't know. And I don't know like what her plane is. Is she gonna go in there and just be like, hey, it's me, or is it gonna be like, you abandon me, you mother, or something like that. I don't know if she's more reserved like me, where like she's not gonna say things like that, or if she's like a spunky, sassy little thing that's gonna speak her mind.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

I don't know. We'll see. And if you're not following us already, you might want to do that to find out next week.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

Because again, we're gonna leave you hanging, and there's gonna be a part two, the aftermath. That makes this sound bad. Dun dun dun. No, I don't know. What is this gonna be? Like a rom-com, a tragedy, a horror? I don't know, I don't know what genre it's Lifetime movie. It's gonna pan out boring. Super boring.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

You know I like my lifetime movie.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Until next time.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

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SPEAKER_02 32:47

Bye.