What If Your Boundaries Became A Cage

Conflict isn’t just “a hard conversation” when your nervous system has learned that disagreement equals abandonment. We start with light life updates and quickly drop into the real question behind so many family blowups: how do you stay connected while you tell the truth? We talk about capacity, stability, and the way old patterns can make a safe person feel unsafe, even when nothing is actually wrong in the present. 

From there, we unpack family roles and caretaking, including what happens when you stop being the middleman and let the discomfort sit where it belongs. We get into respect for elders versus respect for sound choices, how burnout builds when one person becomes the default caretaker, and why repair matters more than keeping the peace. We also reflect on grief, meaningful dates that echo through generations, and the complicated impact of public celebrity death coverage on vulnerable minds. 

The second half turns toward the body and practical self regulation: menstrual cycle awareness, luteal phase overstimulation, cycle syncing support, and the mantra of letting go of what you can’t carry into the bleed. We take it into intimacy and body image too, because being seen by someone who loves you can be its own kind of fear. And yes, we also share a wild spiritual moment with Lucius, a dragon guide for cord cutting, plus a hopeful idea for making live music accessible again through backyard shows and Ticketmaster alternatives. 

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Transcript

Mic Check And Welcome Back

Sisters 0:04

Is it too loud? No. I don't think so. Hello. Welcome back to Emergence with the tie and Jade. It is what's the date? The 15th. We are in March. We're almost to the spring equinox. I know. It's coming. Next what? Friday, Saturday? Something? Yep. We have a new moon in Pisces, I think, coming too. Yeah. Next week sometime. Still don't know what March 28th is. Oh my god, I know. What is it? I had a dream. I literally, in the dream, the whole dream was me calling her because she's in charge of my schedule at the restaurant we work. And I'm like, I need March 28th off. I don't that's what's in my thing. Why? Because there was a conspiracy theorist that was like making all these predictions like a year and a half ago, and I put it in my phone

Astrology Talk And A Weird Date

Sisters 1:05

in my calendar to see if it came true. And then I had a dream about it. And then you had a dream about that day. But this has been in there for years, like a year. It says King Charles death. Mm-hmm. Somebody on TikTok predicted that he was gonna die on March 28th. That'd be wild if it does. It'll happen. We'll see. But why would you need that day off? It's all not King Charles and it's Grandpa Chuck. Oh no. I'm in a dark place, guys. Like King Charles. You mean Grandpa Chuck? Charlie. Come over your daughter Chuck. That took a turn. I'm in a gray space, not dark, just gray. That's not it's not that dark. I don't know why I said that. Oh, that reminds me he came over. Him and grandma came over yesterday. Yeah. And she brought just a bunch of stuff. Because she missed Silver's birthday uh in February or whatever. And she also dropped off Roman's birthday present. I was like, I don't even know how to get to her house. And I was like, You're such a liar. You are such a liar. Like, you know how to get there. You just don't want to take accountability. She doesn't want to face it. Yeah. Yeah. So I have Roman's gift downstairs.

Jadi 2:40

Okay.

Sisters 2:41

That's good.

unknown 2:42

Yeah.

Sisters 2:45

So gray matter. Gray matter. Not just the brain, but what? You want to go into it or no? Oh, I don't know. I've just been. What about any themes around it? Not necessarily it if you don't want to talk about it specifically. Um I think it's just like I'm being met with situations that's testing my nervous system stability. Your capacity. My capacity. Yeah. Testing my trust, testing not in like a terrible way, testing my ability to maintain connection.

Family Visits And Gray Space

Sisters 3:29

What was that? I would assume, and my best guess would be the cat scratching at the carpet outside of the door.

unknown 3:37

Okay.

Sisters 3:38

It's not a ghost. I don't like them. I know. Poor guy.

unknown 3:44

I know.

Sisters 3:45

Well, our cat was chasing a mouse last night. And I went up, I got up to go to the bathroom and I walked in, and I see the mouse running. I was just like, and he's over here thinking the mouse is under the couch, and the mouse is over here staring at him, and I'm just like, it's that way. And he's just honed in. Completely. Unless there was another mouse under the couch, maybe. I have no idea. That's two nights. That was two nights in a row I saw a mouse. I don't know if it was the same one, but the first one he chased all the way into our living room, not the dining room. Right. And it hid in the curtains. And it was just sitting like in the curtain hiding. And I was just like, I can see you, dude. Like, you're a terrible hider. Get out of here. Yeah. No, but I posted all this today on TikTok. I think it's a wound for most people. And that wound being conflict equates disconnection. Yeah. And so we avoid confrontation, we avoid taking up space because in the past, whether in childhood or previous relationships, it resulted in disconnect. Disconnect and fracture. And I was like, and how do we and even with like even when your nervous system is in such a wounded space, you can perceive a safe person as unsafe. Right. Because your nervous system is operating on that pattern. Right. And how do you teach it? You put yourself in situations where you take up space, you say what you mean, you can be in the uncomfortable. And you see the response. And sometimes it will be true, it'll be disconnect, but sometimes more the more often than not, especially in spousal situations or even familiar.

Why Conflict Feels Like Loss

Sisters 5:40

You know.

Jadi 5:41

Yeah.

Sisters 5:44

So like with grandma right now, she's d chosen to disconnect instead of face the discomfort of owning up to shit she did. She's willing to just disconnect instead of repair. Yeah. I just I just stepped out of I just stepped out of being the middleman. Genuinely. Right. Like that's all I did. I was just like, I am done sugarcoating things in a way to appease your comfort, your level. Yeah. Because it was really about yeah. Because I've been doing that for 15 years. Well, and there's also another wound there of like the elder authority and respecting your elders. And it's like, well, make respectful choices. Right. Sound choices. Choices that aren't going to be harmful to yourself or others. Right. And then we could talk about the respectful part coming towards the elders. But if you're an elder and you're not being making choices that are of sound mind or of logic and reason and actual safety of those involved, it's like there's nothing to respect in that. Yeah. It's all it feels very selfish. I feel like I walked out of that like pattern. But also, I'm like, am I stepping into the stubborn pattern? Right. Of like not being the first to just be like, hey, right. Reach out. We should talk about this, or there should be a I mean, it really is maybe that's something you just have to reflect on and look at for your own self and then decide. Perhaps. Yeah. Because if you're going into it looking at both those options of coping skills and coping mechanisms that people fall into and those patterns, and really identify where your intentions are coming from because you do, I mean, right now in your cycle of wanting to breed more connection, not disconnection.

Jadi 7:41

True.

Sisters 7:41

So would it be coming from a place of authentic connection? Because that's what you know is the truth. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I do. I know what you mean. But I do understand the want to be like almost like not really backing them into a corner, but like balls in your court type of energy. Like that's kind of how I was looking at it. I'm like, just looking at the amount of people well, just looking at mine and hers relationship, like out of all the grandkids, we've had the strong like the strongest, strongest and most like long-standing respectful relationship with each other. And so in my brain, I'm thinking, are you gonna cut me off? Yeah, like you have all your sisters, or is the love and the memories gonna outweigh that one disagreement that we had? Yeah.

unknown 8:37

Yeah.

Sisters 8:38

But she's a Virgo, she's so stubborn. She's so stubborn. She's also old and just stuck in her waves. Yeah. She was saying, Mom, your mom took me up or took Ashley up to me, find everything, and she's like, for the first time in her life, she showed up for me. And I was just like, my god. Not for the first time. I know, but that's what how she's recognized because me and you didn't do it. We stepped back. I think that's what needed to happen for the relationship to heal. I know. Okay. Now you have no support from anywhere. Mm-hmm. Like it's not. And maybe that's what it was all along. Maybe mom wasn't choosing not to support her. She just knew that others would. Others would. So and so she We again had to put it in her court, the ball in her court, for her to step up and do what we wanted her to do. Yeah. And she was doing it in her own way. And grandma also shows up in her own way. But for us for the dynamic to switch from four to now it's just you two. I mean, I was showing up just because it's like, okay, I know my mom's working a graveyard. Like I'm exhausted. Yeah. Like I will show up and it's fine. There was a reason we were showing up too, and it was because mom has a lot on her plate. That's what you do for people, but we also have a lot on our plates too. It was time for that to shift, even if it's just temporarily. Yeah. And why can't it shift temporarily throughout everybody? I think that's how I think that's probably because it it led to a burnout sense for you. Oh yeah. And when I was doing it last winter, going there weekly, it was hard. It's so hard. Especially, I mean, I love cats, but she has so many damn cats. And I couldn't handle the smell. They pee everywhere. I couldn't handle it.

Jadi 10:39

You know.

Sisters 10:39

Like I was getting it almost brought me to a place of resentment towards her because I was like, why are you letting it get this bad? Right. You know? And I don't want to feel that way towards her. Right. So and I don't. It's good to be mindful in

Grandma Dynamics And Stepping Back

Sisters 10:55

family dynamics, though. The giving and receiving. It should ebb and flow. There should not just be one sole caretaker. This is for marriages. This is for, you know, if you're taking care of an older family member, like it should be a shared responsibility. Shared responsibility. I agree. Maybe that's what this will all teach us. Yeah. We're balance. Mm-hmm. For sure. Because if you think about it, I mean, like, there was always there's one person on each side of the family, on mom's side, Gail. On the other side. Um Chris. Deb. Oh. Oh, the caretaker? Yeah. Those two on each side always cared for whoever was falling, like whoever was aging the fastest. Yeah. It was always Deb, wasn't it? Or was it Jan? Um, I can't remember. It's kind of split, I think, because Jan, I mean Jan did a uh near the end end for grandma Phyllis. But Deb. For the most part, for both of them. For both of them when they were both living, yes. And then once Grandpa Keith died, then they moved grandma Phyllis up to Jim's. So it kind of shifted a little bit there. But and I think that was just for resources and being closer to her doctors up in that area.

Jadi 12:22

Yeah.

Sisters 12:23

So but I still remember the smell. The smell of grandma Phyllis in that bed downstairs of Jan's house. The one up north. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't remember a smell. I remember a smell. Like a smell of death or what? No, just like there was her smell. Every time I'd walk down the stairs to go see her, I remember her smell. And then she told me to get out. Because they were about to sponge bath her and she's like, get out. And I was like, okay. Bye. No. Oh, I love visiting her. She was so sweet. Very sweet lady. I don't have a lot of memories of her. Or grandpa. Yeah. Not that much. The only memories I have of grandpa were he was in his bed. I mean, because he had the accident and stuff and whatnot, but but he was always so kind too, and I remember he would say my name and hold my hand and all the things. But Grandma Phyllis, she was very outspoken about our family, and like she loved our dad. She loved dad.

Jadi 13:49

Yeah.

Sisters 13:51

So good. And she loved Keith. I mean her husband, Keith. Oh, like she loved him so much. Because it was just her, and last time I saw her. I just miss your my Keithy. It was just like, you're so cute. I know you do. And then she died on the anniversary of the day that they were still in the temple. Oh, that's kind of cool. Did not know that. Yeah. But anyways. Um generational stuff. I know. I was just thinking uh how the dates. It's so funny how they resurface within families. Death dates,

Caretaking Burnout And Shared Load

Sisters 14:40

birth dates. I mean, Grandma Corine died on my birthday. On your birthday. Like, yeah. It's wild to me. Yeah. It happens a lot within like just families. Those dates have such significance. Right. Even I mean, Brooks didn't die on any certain date or anything, but it to me it was significant because it was two days after Robin Williams. And so every time people start bringing up the anniversary of him, it just reminds me of Brooks.

Jadi 15:17

No.

Sisters 15:19

And because they died similarly similarly. Mm-hmm. And the way that they died, and it's just like. But then I also, like, at the very beginning when he died, I I I was angry at the social glorification of celebrity deaths for a minute, because growing up, Robin Williams was a huge influence on Brooks. Like the comedian and just all the things, like, and then for him to die that way, and then my brother, our brother, take his life that same way. Like, I felt like had Robin Williams' death not been glorified, would he have even had the idea to do it that way?

Jadi 16:05

Yeah.

Sisters 16:06

Because it was all public. And it really makes me wonder if it was influenced on him in a way because he was in such a weird dark place.

Jadi 16:14

Yeah.

Sisters 16:15

It just felt you know what I mean?

Jadi 16:17

Yeah.

Sisters 16:17

So I remember having those thoughts. Like, I hate that we glorify celebrity deaths. They're just people like everyone else. Yeah. It's interesting. Are you okay? I haven't zero thoughts. On my way over here, I was like, what the fuck am I gonna talk about? A lot is happening, but I'm in like a internal process mode. Very much so.

Jadi 16:54

Yeah.

Sisters 16:55

Internal processing. I'm also in my moodyal phase. No, which is surprising. I honestly thought you would have started your period before me. I started bleeding a little bit today, spotting nerves. But no, I still have like eight tea bags in my cycle sinking. And then the night we had our double date, I wake up the next morning and I get an alert, and it was like at 1 42 a.m. You pit put in an order for your cycle. And I was like, what? I was sleep shopping. I was sleeping. It's like, how? Did it like automatically? I think it was on the auto versus from the subscription. But I don't remember hitting the subscription, so I was like, I didn't I only have two glasses of wine. I was like, what? I mean, I was gonna order some more anyways because I really do like these teas. I really do. That's good. I'm glad. Yeah. You have to send me the link so I can check it out. Yeah, definitely. We'll see

Death Dates Grief And Meaning

Sisters 18:05

again how this luteal phase is, because I feel like I'm most affected during my luteal phase. And I'm also thinking about getting some like headphones, some noise canceling headphones. Because of one of your videos, because Gemini, my Mercury's in Gemini. Mental stimulation. Yeah. And the the noise that the boys during my luteal phase, it sets me off. Yeah. It really sets me off. Yeah. It makes sense though. And like I think as a Mercury Gemini, like I'm so used to that that it actually is very like almost calming in my luteal because I it's stimulating to me. And stimulation for my three, four Gemini placements is very like um almost regulating in a sense. It's processing stuff through conversation. But then there are times, and it really just depends on where the moon is, I think, and what phase it's like going through. I'll get very like almost mute. Like I just need quiet. I I don't want to speak. And it's just like, and Andrew would be like, are you mad? I'm like, no, I just have nothing to say. Like I just it's just nothing's coming. That's how I feel. Yeah. Like there's no urge to speak. Yeah. My period started, and there's the cat again. It's the cat. It sounds like he's making music. He's pulling up something. Um Pisces, Sun, but my moon was in Aquarius. And it was very interesting, actually, what it said for my little mantra that I should follow this month. I was like, okay. It just it almost here it is. I let go of what I cannot carry into the bleed.

Jadi 20:16

Interesting.

Sisters 20:17

So it's like a dissolving because aquari Piscean energy where the sun is is all about dissolving things, right? And there's almost like this mental and a physical release mirroring each other at the same time. And so letting my thoughts and my tensions be softened so I don't carry them into the bleed type of energy. Um but down here it

Celebrity Death And Suicide Contagion

Sisters 20:45

said click on the no, not that one. I have a feeling my bleed's gonna be pretty short this time. Yeah. That's good. I feel like mine won't be too. Just because of the amount of releasing I've been doing in other ways. We're right here. The overarching theme of my cycle is releasing boundaries that no longer protect. So instead of like usually in my luteal, like I'm looking at what boundaries do I need to place. But right now, my menstrual is actually saying, okay, what boundaries do you have up, but they're not really necessary and hurting anymore. Yeah. They're almost hurting you. So I think that's important to make like a point of boundaries are good, especially when you're on your own path of like empowerment and saying no confidently and you know, doing all the things to be protecting of the self. It reaches a point where it becomes avoidance, though. Right. Well, and you're kind of building the cage. To an extent. Depending on who you're with and up and there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I thought it was interesting, like you don't need those anymore because they're not protecting you. They're hurting you more than they're protecting you now. But it was not a this is not a cycle to cling or to resist, but to soften and release. And then I soften my grip and trust what remains. So really kind of letting go of the boundaries that are outdated and going from there. So I don't know. It's so interesting to me. Did anything come up when you initially read that? Like, was there a light that clicked on automatically, or you're still reflecting on it? Um, I mean a few things. A few things within like intimate relationship with my husband and just am I being stubborn? Am I being, or is it truth, or am I just scared, or what is it? Like and really kind of instead of being so stern about certain things, just letting it go. Because what is it hurting really?

Jadi 23:14

Right.

Sisters 23:15

Just you know what I mean? And and again going into those p spaces where it is uncomfortable, yeah, to allow myself to expand more into it and to really get the truth of how I feel about it. Yeah. Rather than just stonewalling it and being like, nope. And I think that's so hard. It is, especially when it comes to sexual intimacy. It's like we don't know what our boundaries are, we don't know what our geeks are until you actually go and try things. And that's can be scary and uncomfortable, especially coming from like growing up in an era where all of the celebrities

Luteal Phase Mood And Noise

Sisters 23:55

and musicians and women were just scrutinized for how their body looks and how they should look and all these things. And there's, you know, we're conditioned as young women. And I I had, I mean, I feel like throughout my life, pushing 40 now, I've been through so many cycles in my life of learning to love her again unconditionally without judging her or shaming her for how she looks, how she bleeds, how she reacts and responds and tightens and loosens and all the things. And it's like, I don't know, it's just a part of that same releasing the grip. Yeah, I'm not so tight on it anymore. Like even today when I put my robe on, and I was like naked, looking in the mirror, and I was like, I'm so sexy. Even though I know I'm still bigger, like I always have been, but I'm not mad at her for it. Yeah. You know, it's a pretty awesome place to do it. It is, but I think the that work that I do, those little things that I say to her and make her feel better, is helping with the releasing of the shared intimacy. Because it's I'm fine by myself.

Jadi 25:09

Right.

Sisters 25:10

It's when other eyes are on me, especially eyes that do love me unconditionally, and that's fucking scary too. Like what it's crazy. It's true. So it's true. I don't think Andrew listens to these. I don't think DJ does either. It's funny how I know Jesse does. Hi Jesse. Hi Jesse. Number one fan. She really is. I love her.

unknown 25:36

I know.

Sisters 25:36

We love you. Girliest. The girliest girl's girl. Ooh. You're a rock star. Lucius came to visit me the other night since we're on the since we're on the topic of Jesse. We should have her on the next one. We should. I think that would be great. I do too. Just say yes. Jess. I heard it. She said yes. Just say yes, Jess. That's her mantra that's your, isn't it? And then she's like, I'm just gonna say yes to whatever. Fuck yeah. You're on our next podcast, Jess.

Releasing Boundaries And Intimacy

unknown 26:05

Okay.

Sisters 26:06

I feel like I heard her say yes in the ethers, so I don't know. Probably did. Anyways. No, I was going to bed and it was the night that all everything just went, basically. That's the best way to explain it. Um and all of a sudden I just see Lucius. For those of you who don't know, Lucius is a huge, massive dragon who loves to help in cutting cords. So if you ever need help, call on Lucius. Call on Lucius. Honestly, if you do, please let us know if he comes. If he comes. He always does. But he just like looked at me and I was like, does something need to be cut? Because I didn't call you here. And he just like half bowed his head at me. And then I just see like his his little claw talon. His talon, but it's huge. I mean, he was he's massive. And he just like comes in and he starts picking at threads in my spinal, like in my spinal cord. Okay. And I just see these threads going and he's just picking, picking them. And all of a sudden, I just had a bunch of like a whole shit ton of fear rise up in my body, like or start like heart racing. I'm panicking, and I was just like, why am I so scared right now? And he almost was just like, My work here's done, and he went to go like fly away. And I was like, No, stay with me. And then I see him go, like, almost like like I'm a little kid who's scared of the dark, and I'm asking my dragon guide to stay with me because I'm scared. But I was like, this fear that's coming up feels so illogical. Like I can't even pinpoint why, where, what story. And maybe that's the point. It just needed to come up and out. But I just like my perspective zoomed out, and I see my whole house from like an aerial view, and he just like he's huge. He curls around the whole house and just protects their he slept over. I had to sleep over with Lucius, my dragon spirit guide.

unknown 28:19

That's awesome.

Sisters 28:20

I know it was really cool. But yeah, he call on him, man. He's a dope ass guide.

Jadi 28:29

Yeah.

Sisters 28:29

And he loves to help a lot, like anyone who calls on them. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. That's fun. Now that I'm talking about it, I think I know what the fear was. Now that's clear coming. Now that I'm out of that space, I'm like, yeah, a lot of fears have been coming up over the last year. And maybe that was what he was cutting. Maybe just all these illogical fears. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. The reasons that we panic, and there is no reason why we panic most of the time. It's so true. I was on TikTok earlier and Tyson Ritter

Lucius The Dragon And Fear Release

Sisters 29:10

from the All American Rejects, you know, shared that. And like I saw it before Jess shared it. And I literally was just like, earlier this morning, I'm like, go to the link and start ho like putting up my house as a hosting venue, and I'm like, I'm gonna have a venue in my backyard. It would be so cool. And the band from last night can open. Or be the headliner for some of the other bands. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, we could do whatever we wanted. All American rejects, we have a house. It's huge, huge, tons of space. It's perfect.

Jadi 29:46

Yes.

Sisters 29:46

So I I told her, you Jubal and Andrew need to get together and start making a cool stage out back. And and we could like string lights out, but these windows down over it to some poles. Like it would be the coolest setup. I'm like, okay. But as soon as she sent that, I was like, You imagine virtual city police pulling up. Yeah. What's going on, guys? Dude, it's the all-American rejects. They'd be like, I'd be like, don't sweat it, just come hang out. Just come hang out. You could be our security. Make sure nothing goes crazy. No, because seriously, Andrew's like wigging out. I'm like, dude, we're not Project X. He's like, somebody's gonna light our house on fire. I'm like, no, they're not. I'm like, what era did you grow up in? I just remember like concerts were the place where y'all had each other's backs. Like, very rarely were there like fights and shit.

Jadi 30:38

Yeah.

Sisters 30:39

And I'm like, and we're not in a movie. I feel like the the people who get in fights, why are they always the tiny girls? It's literally always every concert I've ever been to, like dance cabin dance when we went to Vegas, like these two emo, emo, tiny girls, like swearing it out. I'm like walking past them, and all of a sudden there's a weave next to my foot, and I'm just like, what the fuck is happening? And one of them's missing like half head of extensions, and I'm just like, all right, okay. Who said what? Who said what? Probably about our weave. It's seriously so fun though. And I think I think it would be a good. When we when to have a venue, yeah. Me and Kelsey, when we were in school for audio engineering and stuff, we were like, we can buy houses right next to each other and then connect them in the backyard. That'd be cool. And like your house could have like the production and like recording studio, and then we could have like a guest house for the bands to see out, and then a venue in the backyard. Like it was a whole thought-out process. We're gonna have a whole block. But I love stuff in like a cul-de-sac. I think that'd be cool. So having this land and like opens up the possibility. It really does a dream come true. I know red bedroom records. I need a red bedroom. I don't want a red bedroom. Red's too much. Maybe for the band room downstairs. Yeah. That'd be a good one to do red and black down there. But yeah, so we're gonna do it. But this thing, so the website, the platform that he created is so super cool. It's kind of like Airbnb, but for venues and bands. So you get to go on there and either be a band or a host. And if they're in your area and there's like high demand for them. They're really saying, fuck you, Ticketmasters. For real. I love them. For real. I love them. I know. Like it's literally cutting out the middle, man. And you if and it only works out. So if you get like, you

Backyard Shows And Ticketmaster Alternatives

Sisters 32:55

know, your goal is to have 500 people in your backyard or whatever, however big big size venue you have, you put that many tickets. Maximum capacity. Yeah, you put that many tickets are available, and then once it gets to like almost three-fourths of the way there, it's like done. Like they'll go through with the show. So it's only by demand, and your money is basically paying for them to get there. So they need people, if you want to see a show and it's in the area you want to go, like go buy your ticket from there because then it reaches that point and it's happening. And I'm just like, but then you can also scroll through other bands, and if they're anything in your area, you can offer your venue. That's cool. It's really cool. I was like, this is a cool idea, and I love it, and I'm so excited to just like see it take off. Yep. Because it will, yep, slowly but surely. But I'm on there, it's Ty's house. Ty's house. And I did like a Google Aerial. We should make a little intro. But I did like an aerial view from Google Maps, and I was like, because you could see the whole backyard, and I was like circled and I was like, you play here, and then like you can see Lins, and I was like, parking everywhere. Like, we can do it, definitely. It's gonna be so cool, and like the um courtyard or whatever could be like set up for like merch. Like it's so it's perfect, it is perfect. Chef's kiss. I'm excited. And I'll be the photographer, yes, wouldn't that be cool? It would be really cool. I'm excited, and then we get to be like open for each and every one that plays here because we're here, yeah. This is our house. That's our only rules. You play your venue here. The only stipulation really is we get it open for you. Yeah, and you gotta make your own rules like that. That's cool. Set your own prices and everything for the band, or like have the band want a certain price. Like this one guy, he's it's like a small, very small setting, like a very intimate acoustic show for like 30 people max, but each ticket's 70 bucks. And people for intimate shows like that, people will pay that. Yep, because those are my favorite types of shows, actually. Like, I love festivals and stuff, but it's a lot. It's it is a lot. Sometimes the intimate, and then they just like shoot the shit after and hang out, and like they're a person, it's cool. Yeah, it's so cool. I'm so excited. Good job, Tyson. It is quite genius, actually. It's honestly the best way to say fuck fuck you. Yeah, yeah, it really is. I love it because it's crazy that when I was growing up, 20 bucks would get me into warp tour. An all-day festival, like 25 dollars at the most. The big ass show, $25. Like now, even just a normal show. I mean, I'm paying uh under a hundred bucks for just me and my husband to go, which is manageable for me. But like a big festival, like something like Warp Tour. Yeah, you're looking at a $400 ticket for general admission, like what? And then eight dollar beers? Oh my god. And like it's just we're making music cool again and accessible to me. And accessible, because it should be always always, always. I love it. Me too. Is there anything you want to add? No, I don't think so either. I feel like it's well rounded and at the point where it needed to go. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, tune in next. I won't say week, because I don't know if it's gonna happen next week. Tune in to our next episode when you will get to meet our girl J. Yes. You're gonna love her. You will love her. You're gonna fucking love her. We're gonna talk about dreams

Closing And Next Guest Tease

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and probably Morik. Morick, her guide, and probably meth heads, a little bit, maybe. Specifically named Brad. Maybe. Anyways, we will see you. Yeah, have a good day.