Tristan Field

In this episode Owen and I talk to Tristan Field. Tristan keeps himself busy doing a number of things these days. From working at The Opera House, to doing session work, putting on shows at VIVID and writing music for The Australian Ballet for their kid's programs, not to mention all the cultural work he participates in. Join us for another epic chat. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Dope. Dope. Cool. Well, welcome to studio two. Even though we are lucky enough to be sitting in studio one today, we're just still gonna run with the same name because that'll be hard to do otherwise. From week to week. From week to week. So that's cool. But we've just um Tris, we just had a walk through the studio. What do you reckon?

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Oh, it's it's pretty spectacular. Like it's really good. Like I love the space and actually it's got a nice energy about it. Uh just all the gear and how it's connected, and I can imagine what the set sessions are like in here. So yeah, it's a really good, really good space. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna hang in the control room today while we um have a chat. So essentially, I started talking to Tristan a few weeks ago at a party, and then I just said, hang on, stop there because this is a whole podcast episode. So it's taken a few weeks to line us all up together because obviously trying to find time for three people and a free studio is sometimes more difficult than it seems, but we always get there in the end. So finally, welcome, welcome up to the studio. Tris, I'm a bit excited being here today. I've only been up here a couple of times, and it and you're right, it does have that cool vibe about it, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11

Yeah, totally. It does have this, um it just has this really like well it's it's it's weird, it's like it's just there's some history about it already, but you can tell like when you come into a studio sometimes as well, just like there's something there's something about a studio that you walk into that leaves a lasting impression, and there are very few ones that do that, but this one you're just like oh okay, here we go. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, very, very honoured to be here. So thanks.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Did it do that to you, Alan?

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Yeah, I mean it still does it to me when I walk in here.

SPEAKER_05 1:37

Yeah, especially uh, I mean, when I w uh does it like when I walk in in the morning and it's all like perfectly clean and reset and I'm ready to like fuck it up and put up a thousand microphones and do my thing, then that does it to me as well. But also like the opposite when I haven't seen someone's session set up and I walk in and it's like pure chaos in here, and I'm like, oh that's interesting. What are they doing there? Like, oh that mic's fun. Yeah, yeah, it still does it. I also like leaving the studio as well. Like, I like walking outside and not being in a car park or like not being in an industrial complex. That's always like so refreshing, especially when you're like bogged down in a session, you're like trying to figure out a part, or you're like trying to figure out something, and then you walk outside and you get like immediate refreshment, and yeah, you don't have that like head noise anymore that you had while you were sitting at the console or fucking trying to figure out a part or listening to the bassists not be able to play their part for 15 minutes. It's uh it's great.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Sounds like you've got stories too, bro. You got a couple.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

So Tristan, let's uh let's go back a little bit. Um early family life. Did you were you were you guys brought up in a musical family or was losing something you kind of No, no, I wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Um actually speaking of the family thing, we met at my Nan's birthday. Like my nan's 75th birthday. Oh, but like all my family like sport. Yeah. That's it. Like my uncles played for the Wallabies, they played Union. That's mad. The the Ella brothers, so if you ever heard of them, that's like famous football family. Uh and then my auntie Marcia was the first Aboriginal person to um play netball for Australia. Um, and also I think she was the first Aboriginal person to get accepted into the Australian Institute of Sport. And then on my Sri Lankan side, my grandfather was technically the oldest Olympian alive today. He was in boxing in the 1960s Rome Olympics.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

And he was like, he was in the same Olympics as like Cassie's Clay, or like Muhammad Ali as like people know him now. That's before it was Cassie's Clay, so they were supposed to actually have a fight, but my my grandfather actually lost by one point to this publish fella, and then yeah, the the fight didn't end up happening. Yeah, so that was uh that's that so both sides of my family are just sport, yeah, you know, and like I played footy and still play a bit of Oztag. Like I went over to I went over to Ireland in 202 uh 3 to play with the Indigenous Australian side and Oztag. Um still play a bit of Oztag. Yeah, still playing Ostra. Still play a little bit. Uh yeah, yeah, just a little bit here and there. I mean that was that was a funny story in itself. I've got on that side, but um, yeah, no, so yeah, every yeah, just um but yeah, no one was really musical or anything like that, so it was just me just I was inspired by Timberland actually and Hendrix and uh Nirvana, so and also like um a composer named Steve Reich, um who was uh really infl uh like really influential in my sort of like composing and my creativity uh with how you can make anything out of sound, and like he used to record like random bits of audio in New York and just people like he just loop people like saying it's gonna rain, like that's another one, or like he has a song called Violin Phase where he gets like four violin play players to play completely out of sync and then play in sync together and stuff, and that's just the way the music's written. So so those were kind of like the inspirations I had and everything, but it wasn't like I had a growing up around music, I wasn't like around like a family band or anything like that, it was just like an obsession, and it was just literally like you know, like when I was 14, just decided like no, that's what I want to do. I actually wanted to be a drummer, funny enough, but my stepmum bought me a guitar instead, so so she like because basically she didn't want a drum kit in the house. Well no, she didn't want it, she didn't want a 14-year-old kid to be bashing bashing a drum kit in the house. Yeah, so she gambled on it saying that if you stay committed to the guitar for a year, then we'll get you a drum kit. And that was a good gamble because I just wanted another guitar, so that was it. I ended up playing drums eventually, but um yeah, that's that's kind of how it started. It was um yeah, just me just watching everyone and the people at school as well were kind of into music and there's some really good musicians where I grew up and then yeah, then obviously moved around a bit and yeah, here I am.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Sick. Sweet. So um like was did you play any bands during school? Like Yeah. Is that what is that when it really started for you?

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Uh it's it's interesting. I think really like my first my first job was when I was 14. I used to hold like a I used to hold the boom up in the short films. Uh you know, like my you know my family friend Jason DeSantelo, he used to uh just throw me in the deep and it really got me engaged with it, and then I started uh working at a radio station called Curry Radio when I was about six uh fifteen, sixteen, had my own radio show on the drive time hour from four to six. So I used to go from Western Sydney to Redfern, go on there, do my radio show. That's prime time as well, baby. That's huge. That's it, that's it, you know. So that was part of the that was through work experience again through my stepmum. Uh and then I was playing around in bands and everything like that when I was a kid. Um just you know, just started well, didn't really play in bands, was just jammed with mates and when I was in Western Sydney. And then when I moved up to um the I moved to Noosa um I was 15, and then yeah, that's when I started really like, yeah, no, I think feel like music's gonna be a big, bigger part of my life, and started starting more and you know started getting you know started getting my chops up that way. Played in bands up that way, um played in a couple of like it was it was interesting because I went to a Christian college and then played in some youth college like youth stuff and that's funny. That's how Dave how I was talking about. That's how we connected. Yeah. Um that's how we connected because we were talking about how um we were talking about the people from the youth scene and the youth bands and worship music and it kind of really dug that sound and really inspired me to develop my guitar that way and stuff. And yeah, had a had a gig and you snow um aggro the puppet, yeah, yeah. So we did a gig one time at the chat. Yeah, it's funny. So I used to go to school with his boy Max, Max Dunn, right? So I used to go Jamie Dunn's kid now, Max, and so his dad and Max basic well aggro and Max just basically hosted this like retro, like through the times like concert that we did as part of a like a Cert 3 music, which we're playing covering like 50s music to like uh the early 2000s. And yeah, Aggro was there just like yeah, as the host. So it was like that's awesome. So like that was pretty, yeah, that was that was pretty that was pretty that was pretty funny, yeah. Like that. So that was up in Noosa. Yeah, yeah, that was that was a Noosa. I went to I went to I went to a Christian college in near Nambour, uh, near the big pineapple, so I went there, then moved to then moved to Brisbane, studied in Brisbane, and played played a shit show of shows like up and down Queensland, in Queensland, like inland, uh south like you know, played in a couple of covers bands, and then I was in a band called Mallory Vinetti, and we were touring up the east coast a fair bit. Uh and yeah, that just died down, and then I was just playing just in the college bands and playing with other cats and everything, just jumping in some studio sessions here and there, and eventually got a job working for a dance theatre company in production. Um, because I had a sound background, I was doing sound production when I was 17, but developed my production skills with like theatre and cross lighting and staging and all that and sound. And so I yeah, so I bit the bullet and moved down to um moved down to Brisbane and work with Bangara because the other option was that I was gonna go to the conservatorium music in Mackay. So that was kind of my two options, and I just did like a bit of study, so I was like, you know what, I reckon probably bite the bullet and you know start developing a career. Then ended up working for the Opera House, uh, and then I ended up playing a couple of shows at the Opera House, um, put a couple of bands on at the Opera House now, like South Summit and Velvet Trip. So I managed to you know get them into Vivid, um, which was awesome, and they absolutely killed it, both both of them. And yeah, now I've just been yeah, kind of just working the traps and just working with I do a lot of composing, so I do I write music for the Australian Ballet for the Kids programs and do some cultural consulting and tea teach some schools around Australia and do that and um yeah, and I I one of I just I actually had two gigs this year, um two composing gigs. One of them was um I was working with uh Studio Gillet and Allianz and did projection on the stadium with like you know a composition they were doing and nice, yeah. And then I just I got back from New York doing a show over that way, just play guitar and produced the show and with Native Americans uh opened up this theater in uh the Joyce Theatre their full season, and it was amazing, and yeah, still just like unwinding from that and potentially like taking it overseas again, so going to Japan and hopefully bringing it back this year. So fingers crossed we get all over the line, but yeah, that's the that's the crux of it, really.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

So we're gonna touch on a bunch of shit, and I didn't write any of that down. That's cool. So we can just go back through all of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Quick timeline in it, just a quick crack horse and be like, you know what? Uh it's better if it just comes out of my mouth.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

I can't write the shit down. So that's cool, and that's cool. So, um, I mean, there were so many interesting things that we can touch back on there for sure. So, um working at the opera house. Yeah, that's fucking cool. Like, how many people get to work at the opera house like you know, like suppose suppose a few, but it probably takes a few people to run that joint, but um, you know, what's how how do you how'd you find yourself at the opera house? How's that something that like you know you you've been up in New C doing that then all of a sudden you've been working with Bangara?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Does it come through that kind of Yeah, it just it just like working with bangers was um was opened me up to like how how do we put on a show really? Like I worked I worked behind uh like I think it was like when I was 17 I worked at the festival at uh the Sunshine Coast and just behind the scenes I got to really see how pe what people do and how people like put instruments on and everything like that and then working at the Opera House was really interesting because they turn over so many shows a year. They turn that many shows over a year, it's pretty nuts. I think it's like around 2600 roughly a year that they turn over, and that's between like you know, inside, outside, you know, downstairs, yeah, everywhere, right? So it kind of was like it really I I went into staging, so I just went into building sets and just you know got my chops up and like knowing how to you know cut some timber, you know, put nail nail things to a wall and everything like that. So it was it opened me up to like really appreciate what goes into a show, what goes into like building out a show, how you get there, then I started getting interesting in the behind-the-scenes stuff, more so like you know, more top level, like how does a producer you know fix this issue, how do they see that? How does a production manager get the right gear? How does a production manager get fixed that, or has to like you know, go through these proper commands to actually get these things to happen? So it kind of really opened me up to just kind of just like you know, more so like may made me fall in love with what I do and like you know, being in the arts more so because it's really it was really something like that was fundamental in my growing up and uh for my career and you know, you know, trying to you know push myself forward and then eventually just ended up doing some gigs for him and stuff like that, and got a got a chance to actually you know have some really cool gigs, you know. Like you know, Week Tang Clan was probably like one of my fun ones. Uh you know, they were never they were mad, uh you know, setting up an ice cube and you know, doing all that and then you know, working with you know, opera and then just the crew as well, the crew that you end up working with, and like there's some of my like mates for life, you know, who just out in there just in like literally like so bugged, you've just done like you're literally pushing 20 hours in a day almost, and you're on your feet and you're just going, you know what, let's the it's just a good crew of people to get through get you through the next step. Um, but yeah, but I mean that that's led me to so much other other stuff outside of music as well, you know. Like got a got a chance to, you know, work with Chris Hemsworth on a on a TV series as well, like just doing cultural consulting and cultural producing. So like it just led me to other options, like opportunities. Oh, it's the main reason why I went to New York, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Imagine um, you know, late 90s, early 2000s, ever thinking that Wu-Tang clan would be just headlight in the opera house. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty mental to think about. I'm not saying they don't just like you know, it's so cool that it can happen now.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Um but yeah, there's so much of demand for I mean, like I remember when Fred again came and did a gig, usually like things are like booked down in advance, like they're booked away in advance with the opera house. Yeah, but Fred again was so like, nah, we're just gonna, we're just gonna just pop it up and just do it. And that doesn't happen. Yeah, that wasn't it. There's only six people at the opera house that knew how what was going on. There was only there was only like literally like six people that knew what was happening, and they just managed to do it. It was like that's insane.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Did those six people know about it like months in advance, or was it literally like drop of a hat? Because when I saw it, I was like, that's mad that he's done that, because that was like that's his whole thing, right? Like fucking rock up, play gigs, do the thing. Um but when he did the opera house, I was like, fucking surely like it's been kept, like there's been a tight lid on it, and like you know that's I I try to find that out too.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

I try to find that out too.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

So what he's just rung up and said you got a spare slot the next two weeks, take on it. It was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

They were like they I think it was either I think it was either the either the I think it was the concert or like or I think it was with um Sydney Symphony Orchestra just finished their show, they just pulled it down. Pulled all the things out and then just basically like it was only like from what I heard was like it was only like a few weeks, it wasn't a month or anything, like an answer planning or anything like that. Yeah, and people were going to the office that's outside of the opera house, yeah, and trying to and somehow they found out that's where the office is, and they're just like they're lining up trying to find tickets, and everyone's just like, where can we get tickets? Because no one could get tickets online. Yeah, and the the um the irony of that was if you actually went down to the box office, they were selling tickets and all no lines, just bought Australians.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

Go to the place where you normally buy tickets and the tickets will be old school, old school way, old school, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Pay cash if you can, you know, like that's it. So yeah, but that was um, yeah, but like it's like the thing is as well, like yeah, everything's so planned out with that place, and you know, there has to be, it has to be. Um, but that was one of the shows where I'm just like, man, did operators just let their hair down a little bit? Yeah, but yeah, it's um yeah, crazy ride saying seeing people perform. And I got to meet one of my guitars, like Joey Bonamasa.

SPEAKER_05 15:34

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Well I got to meet him and you know, talk to him a little bit. But the funniest thing was was that we actually spent more time talking about vacuums because I was vacuuming the stage, and like I was just like, I could ask this man, and I literally did ask him about guitar and I did ask him about some of my projects, but we had more of a like a personal conversation about vacuums. Do you like a Dyson or a Hoover? Well, that's what he likes Dyson about Dyson Band.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Dyson bed.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

So funny enough that I was just like, man, out of all the conversations I could have with this literal guitar god, it's about fucking vacuums. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_00 16:08

He probably walks down to this study going, I'll never forget working at the uh you know, doing a gig at the opera house, and normally everyone's hassling about guitars. And this dude just wanted to know what vacuum I like best. He'd probably really appreciate it. It's just it's just anything.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

It was just so funny because like the vacuums we were using were pretty trash, and so like, you know, and then it was like, you know, then that was before they upgraded to the wireless one, which sucked even more, but yeah, but like anyway, so when I had to call this like when I have to like wide um vacuum cleaner, I'm looking at Joe and just having a conversation, like, oh yeah, like I've got a Dyson name and he actually and he's actually telling me about it. I was like, Yeah, I've got a good deal, hey. Like it's just like right. This is the bloke, this is the bloke that literally pays for like a plane ticket for his like$50,000 guitar. And we're talking about vacuums. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Like that clip is insane when he's talking about buying a fucking plane ticket for his guitar. It's nuts. It's so crazy.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Oh, it's so crack off.

SPEAKER_05 17:04

I couldn't imagine like walking past him like when you're fucking you know, trying to get to your plane seat and you're like wriggling through and shit, and he's sitting there with a fucking guitar case next to him in the seat.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

I would have thought I went to heaven if that was the case. But I don't know, but other people won't, but like, you know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bit, yeah, a bit of fun one. But yeah, that was a that's a core memory.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

I'll never forget. Yeah. And um you said before um you were helping out Chris Hemsworth with some was a cultural produ pr production.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Yeah, so basically like um just my background is like I work with a lot of um I work with a lot of First Nations artists um across across the country. And and now like you know, working with a lot of um you know First Nations mob in in the States now at the moment. And it's uh it's one of those gigs where they didn't have any idea what was going on, like this is like Disney Plus Nat Geo. And they're just like we don't know what we're doing with this cultural stuff, like we have no idea, we don't know what we should be doing. Help. And I was like, Yeah, cool, alright. Um first off I said don't take it to Blue Mountains, take it to Coffs Harbour because we had Otis Hope Carrie um on on and Otis and Crucent Mates, so you know there was already an existing relationship there, and I was like, Well, wouldn't it make more sense to go to you know go up back up to Coffs Harbour? And I think we ended up filming in uh a place called Washbull Lookout. I think it's called No Washbull Washbull or Yeah, something something around there. Near near Armandale, actually, sorry. In between Dargo and uh Armadale, and so I picked that lo I wanted that location, and the directors were like no no we wanted it this way, and then it's like they went to the other location which was near Grafton, didn't really have the feel, and then they came to this one, uh uh Rights Lookout, sorry, it's called so then they went out to Wrights Lookout and they saw what it was like, and we based the whole film around these three tribes and you know basically got Chris Emsworth to you know like paint up and do a corroborey, you know. Wow, yeah, so it was pretty cool. So you can watch that on Disney Plus. We actually have a new episode coming out uh November 23rd, 24th, which is actually more around based the Aboriginal community he grew up in. And well, it was really special because it was with his dad, his old man stuff, and yeah, so I was it was really it was really wholesome because you know, with I'm with his mum and dad and you know we're chatting up to them and talking about old stories from you know when as the community used to say, when Chris used to be like a little kid and used to run around butt naked, so that's what they all say. So yeah, and it was um that was really cool just to learn about that and you know learn about their family story a little bit more, and but that happened through the opera house. Like that was all like because I was working um working a festival there, um, and basically they said, Hey, we saw we've heard your name, you know, do you reckon you could do this job? I was like, Yeah, sweet. I had no idea what I was doing until I actually got to the job. Yeah, but it was the thing, it was like, you know, like I've done like some advisory work and shit, but I was like, Well, let me like let me like to go into D-Pen and try it, and it just ended up working out really well. So yeah. So that was uh yeah, that was a really big um yeah, career defining moment, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

So is that um and is that a similar concept that you've taken over to the States as well? What are you doing over in the States? Is it so what what what's the show called? Uh which one? The one we were just talking about.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Oh yeah, so that one's called Limitless with Chris Emsworth. That's that one. Yeah, so Limitless with Chris Emsworth, that's on Disney Plus, uh through Nat Geo. And I think it was Darren Ovanowski, he was the director. And it was and I'm working with the dudes, like some of the dudes from Topge, that were working on Top Ge for like 15 odd years. Yeah. And they ended up coming onto it. Um and yeah, absolutely amazing career. Like, love working with some of those brutes. Like, they've just been absolutely like a delight to work with. And yeah, and then that was like, yeah, it's just kind of like the same sort of like what I took to America. Um, and I asked my mate, like, you know, he's running this, it's it's called Indigenous Enterprise, that's the company. They wrote a show, or he wrote a show called Still Here, and basically helped him produce it. And um we ended up getting like we got the composer from Pokemon, like one of the composers from Pokemon. I can't remember his name, but he's like, I'm on the phone to him and was like, You're the dude that literally was part of like the compositions for like Pokemon. Like I grew up in Pokemon, like how does that happen? And he did it for free too. Like, I was just like, that's insane. Um, and so yeah, and like it kind of like it more so is that what I asked my mate Kenneth, I asked him was like you could work with any producer you want, like you can work with anyone you want, you can literally like kind of like you have the cream of the crop, right? And I asked him, I was like, no, no, it's because you're really are organized, and just because I trust you with how to take the show and how and plus also the theatre background that I had. Uh and then with that it became like I'm just jamming. Like I walk out for like half the set like half half the first half of the show. I walk out with the guitar with the dude that plays like the indigenous flute. And so he so and then we just like we just like literally improvise, go off, wait for the next bit to go. 'Cause it's got animations and all that as well. It's got all this um All this amazing dance that's going through. And that was it. That was the geek, really. You know? But I was also like concerned that I didn't wouldn't get into the country if I took a guitar. Yeah. So I just borrowed one. So I was like, yeah. But that was also like I had to play that one safe because I was like, ooh, good way.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Was the indigenous flute is that an Australian instrument or American instrument?

SPEAKER_02 22:19

No, no, that's all Native American songs over there.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

I thought I knew about a few of them, but I've never heard about it.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

No, no, our Indigenous Indigenous flute call is uh called the Yideke or the Didridude. Bit deeper, a bit longer.

SPEAKER_05 22:31

Crazy to think about that as a flute.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Well, crazy enough when you think about it, it's just the long flute. Yeah. I like to say, nah, it's uh a lot a lot of good stories. Um there was a lot of good stories with, you know, both both of those um both uh like combining those cultures and you know like that was kind of really big, but yeah, with just you know like and then kind of just coming back and just working with a lot of other, you know, contemporaries in that sort of sense as well, and then having that kind of um tick of the box thing to just do a show in New York's just some that I couldn't I've always dreamed about going to New York, never thought this was the case, yeah. Yeah, that's mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

That's cool. And so music-wise, I remember you were telling me that you were either you know writing are you writing a record or making a record?

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Currently, well, it was a disappointing thing because I said I turned I stopped playing in two groups, actually. Um and I kind of made the decision when I was over there because I was like, look, I just want to kind of focus on my own music. Uh I recorded I recorded the first single um with an artist named Dobby um Ryan Ryan Clappman there, and uh he won an RE last year and he's one of my closest mates, and he basically was like, Yeah, I'll come record it. I did a gig at the start of the year and just demoed like these three songs. And so it was kind of really nice, um, sorry to have him just record it and stuff and I'll do all the mixing myself and everything. But yeah, it's just like the summer is like now it's just for me, it's just like alright, focus, write the compositions that I've got. Uh, because I've just written a bunch of songs. I've got about 26 songs, I think, all up at the moment that just need to be fleshed out. And I'll just pick like the f the eight to twelve that I want to like make into an album, EP singles and all that as well, and then the 15, like see what else is going on. So and I guess that's it as well. Like, that's the because we're in an age of now where it's like you're you when you we we live in an age of content and your music releases are now like they're based off like your fluidity of like con like releasing and stuff like that as well, especially for artists around this around around this at this time. Um but then once you start getting the name brand up and everything like that and your business is thriving, then it's like it becomes easier, I guess. Um and just seeing the bands we worked with over the years, they've just been able to do that for me. Yeah, it really works for them and pays off. So yeah, but yeah, that's it. Um yeah, writing writing more, um collaborating with a cool um cool bunch of artists like uh Brett Ager and Jack Icky, uh other musicians that I know just back down to Sydney. And uh yeah, and uh Amanda Davis as well. Uh she's she's gonna be, you know, she's an amazing um singer, and she, you know, she sings with a bunch of big groups and stuff like that. So having her on board just to also vocal coach me and stuff, you know, just to get my voices up and stuff. Um but yeah, it's really exciting. So yeah, and probably buy a new guitar. So yeah. What are you iron off? Oh sir. Oh yeah. Potatoes as uh Sado once. Um I played one this year at Liberty Horstale, I was on tour with a band, uh group um from America this artist named Jeremy Miller, um, and uh David, I can't remember his last name, sorry bro. Um I was like Dave, uh he has one of the he has one of the Sir guitars and I played it at Liberty Hall over a system and I was like, it was just insane. And I was like, that's what I need because it's so versatile and so yeah, but uh that's pretty much the crux of it. Um but yeah, it's a yeah, it's but the whole um I've I've I've recorded with a couple of other groups like Green Air Band and Chill Chinese and all that, um, which are the like kind of groups around Sydney based and I played on stage with um a few cats around Sydney, done a couple of jazz gigs um and stuff, but uh I'm not really a jazz player as much, but like I can do the gig if I needed to. So yeah, but um yeah, just I th I think I just got tired of just doing session work really. So that was it.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

You said you played a vivid.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Yes, we did, yeah. Carriageworks. Um it was a show. So my other job is called I I work with Awesome Black as the senior creator producer um for them, and we put on a show with Vivid that we're doing next year as well called Exods of the Block. So we're taking a lot of like kind of like hip-hop artists and we're kind of just improvising the whole show and just making this you know, organic sort of like natural show, like of someone's bedroom or something like that, like it used to be in the block, and we're just all on stage and we're just all like sitting there just jamming and everyone's just rapping and you know having fun. And I was like, yeah, it was cool. So yeah, we had the skates come up um one night, like they finished their show, we're still performing, they just jumped up on stage like through the back there, and we're just all yeah, just all having a fun jam, and you know, it was just awesome, and we'll with Mr. Rhodes, we'll um yeah, chill chatny again. Uh Dobby, uh we had Izzy, um yeah, Nookie was a was around to see the show as well, so you know Young Brother and stuff like that, and Aminti. Yeah, we had a couple of people pull through and stuff like that, but yeah, that's uh we plan is to keep doing that show again. Um, because Carriageworks loved it, Vivid loved it, and we're gonna be doing some more work with Vivid as well next year. So hectic.

SPEAKER_04 27:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Sweet. I was a bit lost on some of those names. Uh Aussie hip hop I'd been. Not a little bit. Like Nookie, surely. Sorry. You know Nookie. From from what? From Nookie. From Nookie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did that flip of my people recently. Yep, yep, yep. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Nookie. I love ya.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Oh, that's alright. We won't tell them Gavin. If you're listening to this bread, you're alright.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

No, that's all right. That's your that's a bit of your vibe, isn't it, Ellen? What? You're into the hip-hop, aren't you?

SPEAKER_05 27:53

Yeah, I can I can hip and hop.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

You can hip and hop?

SPEAKER_05 27:56

Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, I just listen to fucking everything though. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

What are you kind of what are you what are you currently listening to? Both of you? What is well it's something that you're both listening to at the moment.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

I go through big phases of listening to one thing and pretty much fucking nothing else. Yeah. A bit the same. And at the moment it's country music. Uh yeah, big time. I've been uh I made or it's like weird. Give me a hand. I'm gonna slap it. Yeah, no. I recently made the switch from Spotify to Apple Music, and Apple Music's got that radio thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like Radio One, I was like, that is a bit too much for me. Hits, I was like, I don't really want to listen to Michael Bublet and Taylor Swift. And then I hit the country one and I kinda kind of fuck with country a little bit. Yeah, I've also been playing guitar for this girl who's a country singer, so it helped with immersion and getting to know, I suppose. So I was just like, I was like, fuck it, I'll just listen to this. And it's good because it's kind of like I don't know, it's like I've been enjoying discovering music through it as well. Because it's like I can't skip because it's the radio, but it's not like commercial radio where I fucking have to listen to ads, and it's not like fucking triple J where I have to listen to the worst presenters in the known universe to fucking you know what I mean? Um so it's like just I can yeah, I've been really enjoying that. It's been great.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

That's cool, that's cool, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

So is there an is there an artist that you've grown to really like through listening to country music? Um like somebody that maybe you've even you've known for a while and you never thought you would you would be a fan and now you are?

SPEAKER_05 29:28

Uh one that I've just like discovered, like Lainey Wilson, she's an American singer, she's great, she's got a beautiful voice, her songs are really nice as well. Um yeah, she'd be the she'd be probably the one that I've like found, had knew nothing about her. She's humongous in country circles. Like it's anyone who listens to country music will be like that's such an obvious thing to say. But for me, she's new to me, and I am enjoying her music a lot. Yeah, cool. I'm also just enjoying how like I don't know, how natural and beautiful a lot of the music is. Like the the stuff that I resonate with is the shit that sounds like a band fucking ripping in a room. Like I sometimes you get your jelly rolls and your marshmallow songs, and it's like this is crazy nonsense with like trap hi-hats and like crazy shit going on, and I'm like, that's not what I'm here for at the moment. But the tunes where it's just like the band's ripping, someone's singing a beautiful song, that's the stuff that I'm really enjoying.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Yeah, yeah, nice. I've been listening to a lot of I suppose what you just call like Aussie pub rock, but modern stuff, so you know, few bands I really like, like Pissed Idiots, the Pretty Littles, Radium Dolls, those guys are fucking cool. Um and the Slingers, I've been getting into them quite a bit as well recently. So what about yourself?

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Oh man, I had a It's probably my crit, but I had a bit of big sleep token face this year.

SPEAKER_05 30:50

Yeah, I was like a mega fucking album this year.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

Oh my god, that album's like it was absolutely insane, man. Um is it even an Arcadia? I think it's called, yeah. And it just like it just really just elevated like that first that and their recording techniques as well was really like insane. Their mixing techniques, because you hear the first part of the song, uh the first song of the album. They purposely like fucked with the mix just to make it sound like it wasn't properly mixed or it wasn't properly like it was in a bedroom sort of thing. So they went through different levels and everything like that. And I didn't notice because I I watch um I watch people break that down just to get ideas as well, how people like see music, what they do for the hearing train my ear up as well. And it was one of the things I I noticed was like, yeah, they fucked around with their mix a lot just to and then it comes in with this heavy ass breakdown.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

I was like, that was massive, but also like two's like his like technical ability around the kit and just where he flows with it is just absolutely insane. So it's you know, so like the the whole group's just and they also headlined um was it Rock Amring or something like that or not fest or something like that. They did a male, yeah. Yeah, they headlined it and people like, oh, they shouldn't need it in their chops. I was like, no, they're rightfully so deserved to that slot. So yeah, that was really cool. Um but I mean getting back into like a lot of Delta Blues as well and getting back in like with um Elmore Jones, like you know, is a right big favourite of mine. Um just inspired my writing. Uh and a couple of composers here and there, um just uh because I've got a I've got some composition pieces coming up next year, so just to get some new ideas and some new like kind of inspirations and that sort of thing. And then also like I'm getting back into DJing, so just a bunch of DJ stuff that I've been listening to.

SPEAKER_05 32:28

So I'm like, I constantly have a playlist that I add to every time I hear something. Yeah, just in case I get asked to DJ, which I've it's been once at my mate's birthday, but I'll kind of putty coming up.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

I've got a party coming up, though.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Well that's it, that's it. I was at my maze the other day. I just played my EP like album inspo playlist. And then but like I have the three that I go through. No, I have four. Actually, I've got the workout one, I've got the DJ one, the EP one, um, the just just trash one, which is just trash, like just trash nice rock music and everything on it as well, like punk music and shit. And the other ones were my sex playlist, just in case, you know. So, you know, just you know, you never know, man. Like Instagram's a thing, you just have Shazam on, and you'd be like, Yep, cool, that's going with the chiliers. It's literally that's the playlist, it's just got a chili. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 33:13

It's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

It starts and ends with careless whispering.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

Oh god, it's like too obvious to try to get in the mood of like it's hilarious, it's hilarious, because I was like, what was it? I was like, when I was in Sri Lanka last, um in halftime. Yeah, no, I was like, I was seeing this, I was seeing this, um, I was seeing this woman over there, and we're supposed to get a hotel room and like in Colombo, and then like we're just gonna chill and just like literally like just that was it. Yeah, go out for a couple of drinks and just you know have this really nice intimate time together and stuff. So I curated this whole playlist and everything like that. And then anyway, she cancelled on me. I was like, get fucked. Like I was just like, and then I can't listen to it because you get it, like it's just like when you because like you're just imagining things in your head, and then just like I can't, I can't, I'm I'm probably gonna listen to her on the way home, but anyway.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Anyway, I um I once learned a song for a girl, so this was back in high school. Um yeah, hell, hell yeah. And I'd overheard was actually one one of my one of my older sister's friends say something along the lines of, oh, if any of the guys at school could um play stairway to heaven, I'd say get with them. You know, it's like it's high school shit. So it's something along those lines, let's say. So, bro, I went to my guitar teacher the next day. I'm like, Stairway to heaven, you've got to teach me goes, oh fuck, really? And I'm like, you have to, I might, you know, I've got this opportunity. He goes, Well, if it's for a girl, let's go. So it took me ages. Like I'm talking, you know, like I was young, and like we're doing like one phrase a week, and then I had to learn a little bit of theory in between. So, you know, it took a few weeks, but let's say six weeks, whatever, eight weeks, I could kind of play it well enough that I'd want to play it in someone, and I sat down next to her on the oval. We used to just sit in the oval and smoke C's and play guitar and shit in my high school is pretty cool. And um, and sat there and I just started playing it, and just nothing, like not even a wink. And I'm like, I thought it should at least look over. Not even a wink, and I'm like, fuck, I spent so long learning this song. That's a stitching. Uh I told her years later, I did tell her years later, and she laughed at me and said you're a loser. I don't even remember saying that. So anyway, uh, there we go.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

So funny. I was like, it's not it's something completely separate, but like, so I got banned from playing Stairway to Heaven in my house. Not because of anything else, not because it was boring or anything like that. But remember how like you could hear the backwards recordings and shit, and everyone used to think that was like a bullish picture. Yeah, yeah. So my stepmom, again, legend, also did not let me play that song ever because she was like it would tr re-traumatise her because she was like she used to grow up like a good Christian girl, right? She went to Bible college, right? And she started I've never seen anyone study the Bible like a textbook, but that was the reason why she stopped being a good Christian was because she started the Bible. And but one of her like one of her absolute boundaries is that you're not allowed to play stairway to heaven whilst I live in whilst you're living for me. And I thought I just did it every time. I just played it for her, I just piss her off, but yeah, no, I just yeah, it was like that's the only reason. Well, that was it.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

You must have a stairway to heaven story. You gotta have one.

SPEAKER_05 36:16

Um I don't think so. Oh, yeah. No uh no, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. My uh I mean the it's kind of like the opposite thing, whereas like now when I'm at home, I'll be playing guitar and my girlfriend isn't like musically inclined in any way. She's a social workup, she's fantastic and has lots of great other talents. But she'll like walk into the room or walking in the lounge room and she goes, karaoke now. And I'm like, hey, we're doing karaoke right now. I was like, Alright, babe, what do you want to sing? She's like, Taylor Swift. She's like, I'll be like, Alright, cool, no worries. What song? She's like, uh, this one. I'll be like, all right, ultimate guitar. She's got the lyrics, I've got the chords, and she's just like fucking belting or whatever song it is. And she can't really sing. But she knows that as well. And her like go-to line is like, she'll finish, and I'll like I'll like laugh when she like belts a note and it sounds fucking crazy or whatever. And she'll finish singing. She'll go, Yeah, if I could sing, I'd be too powerful. Can I please use that?

SPEAKER_00 37:20

That's so good.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

I mean, she got she already got the personality of Eva. That's it. That's it. Oh my god. Go for it, sis. Like, go your heart out. Sound like you own that gig, but also you sound terrible at the same time. Oh, fair enough.

SPEAKER_05 37:35

So great. Fair enough. You know, that's it. She's got all the confidence though. So when she goes and belts that note, it's like, fuck, this sounds rough as guts, but she does not stop. Oh, no.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

As long as you own it. Yeah. I've actually come to terms with that. I'm never going to have a great voice. But if I can be happy with the voice I have, hopefully other people will enjoy it too. Because I think that's the main thing, right? Like, you don't have to be the best singer in the world as long as you it's more about it, could be an energy thing. Well, I've seen great bands where the worst sound on stage is actually the singer, but because they're so energetic, you can't take your eyes off them. Like, it's just amazing. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:13

I mean, like, Animal in the Sniffers is kind of a classic case of that currently. Like, she's not really singing, and that's like the whole fucking vibe of their band. Yeah, she wouldn't win the voice, would she? No, but it's great, it's engaging to listen to. And then I guess like the opposite end of that energy-wise, is kind of like Elliot Smith. Like, he was like kind of half mumbling, doubling his vocals half the time, and like pitchy here and there. But again, that was a whole vibe because his lyrics and his music were so like they drew you in so much that you didn't need to worry about the perfect pitch or the fact that everything was doubled hard left and right, like everything was just so it's even like the the story about Bob Dylan.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Yeah, Bob Dylan's a bit of a big thing. Bob Dylan never sang a key. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you never singing key, but it was just like you didn't care. Like it was just like it was just a storyteller, but his voice had something about it. Wasn't like the most like amazing singer, but like, you know, like again, like it was just the whole narrat, like the whole sounds that came together.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Oh yeah, I love Bob Dylan when other when other people sing his songs for sure. It's yeah, it's great. Yeah, when Joan Bias was on stage, that was the best. That actually that's one of the only reasons why I can say I can play the harmonica because I play better than him. He makes money out of it, right? Yeah, sure, true.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Well, you might as well fucking pack it up and go on tour, you know? It'd be easy.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

So, um, alright, while we're on what do we listen to, who have we seen lately? Have you been any gigs? Ooh, I saw a gig. Or maybe even someone you played with that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Damn. Um, who's someone that I really like loved seeing? Um I I I the band that I love seeing at the moment, I've I've been seeing them for a while. It was um it's Velvet Trip as well. Like they've been nice, yeah. They've been um they've been really, really good. Um we so awesome black art company, we managed to get them on for yours and ours this year. Um so which was kind of cool because we'll we did some work with yours and our the team at yours and ours. And you know, um shout out to Adam and Bao from from down that way as well. They've just been absolute legends and want to look to work with us again. Um but oh who would I say? Like, yeah, definitely, definitely I would um probably put also like seeing seeing the Google dolls live. Oh sick. Yeah, seeing the Google Dolls live was just something that was ridiculous. Like that was really cool and like a bit of an experience. Uh and the Fontaines. Like I loved watching the Fontaines. They were fucking so good. Um, but I think probably like seeing Dan Salton play this year. And like I've got a couple of boys that play with him as well, so it's like Zap play with him? Zap plays with him. Zap plays with him as well. So like Zeph's in LA at the moment, actually. Did he? Yeah, yeah, he's just over in LA, just chilling. Um because I tried I tried to well, we'll try to book him for another gig, but like, yeah, apparently like they're they're on holidays or something. I was like, oh fair enough. Um so yeah, um, but yeah, no, so yeah, so seeing um seeing all the boys play with him, uh, which was really good, like they absolutely killed it this year. Um, and then I saw I went up to Big Sound this year, and there was a really good, like, good eye open I just see like if anyone can get a chance, like go to Big Sound and just immerse yourself in the music culture over there, because I still think to this day, and people like people from Melbourne are gonna shoot me for this, and I don't give a fuck. But Brisbane has a better music scene, I reckon, and a better music community than Melbourne. Controversial as well. That is very controversial because because the only reason is because people actually rock up for the opening set in Brisbane, Melbourne they don't. Yeah, nice. Yeah, so like yeah, so take that one with your Melbourne, but you can't argue with people from Melbourne about it because they get so defensive about it.

SPEAKER_05 41:42

And I also I mean uh I mean you think of great bands from Brizzy, and they're also all fucking proper mad legends. Isn't it like TZ, Ballpark, Nerve, like they're all Wolf Mother Wolf Mother, yeah, Fuff Mother, Powerfinger, Pat Young Force, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're they're all from Brizzy. Um even the Grinner boys weren't too far away from there, were they? Yeah, they're they're up there as well. So that's the thing, like most of the like the best bands of really like Australian bands have come out from like either the sunny coast or they come out from like between like between Queensland, well, between the Sunshine Coast and to Brisbane into um Byron. Um but yeah, they've just been like they've just been absolutely insane. Uh also another band I've got to give a shout out to is uh South Summit as well. They've been really kicking off.

SPEAKER_05 42:26

Perth, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:26

Yeah, they're all the way from Perth. Well, my cousin's in that band.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

Oh Matt.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Yeah, yeah. We didn't find out that it was my cousin until we actually uh started his name's Josh Trindle. Yeah, and turns out that his his parents, uh I think his mum, took him to like when he was a kid, took him all the way to um Perth. And so he started living out there. So yeah, Josh, he's like he's a he's an hour boy.

SPEAKER_05 42:45

Any relationship to is it who's the footy player that's trindle as a boy? Daryl Trindle Trindle. Josh Trindle.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Yeah, Josh Trindle, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're related on. Daryl Trindle was the I might be showing my age here. Back in mind, uh back in mind. I caught up uh PlayStation 4 computer game a couple weeks ago and got fucking roasted for that, so that's it's now a retro console, like you can't do shit with that.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

It's a retro console, like get fucked. Yeah, uh yeah, no, but um, yeah, no, definitely South Summer was um and their sounds just gotten better and better and better. Um, so you know, so I really really love them. Uh and you know, like uh love catching a lot um catching up with a lot of local gigs and stuff, and then watching the innerwest uh what was it the beer festival? No, what was it? The innerwest Ltra. Yeah, yeah. That was insane. That was insane how many people were just lining up to get the pubs and stuff. Yeah, filter grifters. Yeah, yeah, filter grifter down in Marley bar and stuff. And fun fact was that I had another mate that was putting on a bunch of um artists upstairs in the Mali bar, and I don't know why, but the Mali bar only employed one sound dude between two levels. Fuck yeah. Yeah, right. So he was focusing on the band stuff and like no one was looking upstairs, so he's jumping up and down, and so I've come in and I've Like I've had a couple of drinks because I was with the young Henry's crew and shit. As you do, I've rocked in and then I'm just going, What the fuck's going on with the sound? And I walked out 'cause the voc because none of the mixes were right. Like the vocals were like the vocals were lower than the tracks and then obviously the tracks got hidden under the so like it was all different.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

And you know, as as we've all had experience with sound, like it's pretty sometimes like that's the part of the gig, especially when they're just singing behind backing tracks. So I've just gone there and I was just like, man, I'm probably like at least 12 years deep. And so I've just sat on the desk because no one was watching, and I fixed it up and everything like that in Q16. And the dude comes up to me, he's like, Wait, did you fix that? I was like, Yeah, yeah, I did. He's like, dude, can you actually watch this for me while the door is like, yeah, just give me another beer. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:42

So yeah, so have you ever done that on? I I am sure I have, but also I'm sure that I was like fucking 12 beers deep and I've I've done it. So I'm trying to like I know I'm like, there's a there's a thing in my mind that's like you've done that too, and I just can't remember what gig it was.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

Yeah, I know you fucking wanted to do it on more than one occasion, right? Yeah, probably. I've wanted to do it on more than one occasion, and I don't even know what I'm doing, so there you go.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But um, yeah, and then another like one more band I've got to give a shout out to is uh Lemonize as well. So like very young. Yeah, yeah, Jake and all that. Yeah, yeah. Very I love them. Um absolutely love them. I've been massive supporters of them since I met. Um I did a gig with Jake this year. Nice. Um, so that's where I got to meet him. Um, and then I've been really kind of supporting him and another artist named Melina, and we're going to um I was actually trying to get them to come to Tamworth, but they're going overseas, so I've got Alina to come through, who's another um up-and-coming artist as well, who just released their first single. Single, sorry. And we're taking them up yeah, to Tamworth to do like a couple of gigs up that way. So Mad should be good. Hell yeah. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Oh fucking time.

SPEAKER_05 45:45

What have you seen recently, James?

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Um, recently, recently, recently. I was down at the I've been down to Lincoln Pin a couple of times over the last month or so. Just all Lincoln Pin bands, really. There was a cool band from um that were like Edelon boys and they were doing like a 25th like reunion fucking gig. And they were sick because the whole place was pumping because they were all local boys, so um everyone was just hanging out down there. I forget what they called, I feel really bad. But I'm always had a couple of beers when I'm down there. I'll never remember who's playing. I don't even look to see who's playing. It's actually a really cool venue, right? So it's this little place just down in Woi Way and it's a cafe during the day. They've got shit on like nearly every night, you know, they've got comedy nights and um open mites and mics and whatnot. But essentially I bumped into the guy that owns it, Adam, who's pretty cool, and he was saying that essentially nobody wanted to put on the gigs they wanted to put on, like all the pubs in the area, because they just let people play whatever music they want to play. Like you know, there's it's sometimes it's terrible and sometimes it's fantastic, but yeah, it's like it's just four kids straight off the street, let's go, rock and roll. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you can really see people still you know cutting their chops in there, and other times you see like you know, proper musos just lock in together and just tear the place apart. It's just such an amazing venue. There's not many like it left. Um, so I just head down there and just wash Ben's down there now. Nice. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Um what about you?

SPEAKER_00 47:18

What's a oh actually I've got one other gig sorry, one other gig that I want to mention because I mentioned it to Owen a while ago and it's fucking cool, and everyone needs to go. So I went to Pub Choir a couple of weeks ago at the end more.

SPEAKER_05 47:31

You went to PubChoir, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

So this was my second pub choir. So pub choir is just absolutely fantastic. It's a little bit hard to describe for anyone that's never been, but essentially, this amazing comedian/slash music teacher, um, her name is Astrid Ingrid or Astrid.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

Yeah, I think she took, she took, um, took it to America's Got Talent or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was running up in Brizzy. Yeah. Yeah. My mate Waveny used to play guitar for her.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

So essentially what she does is she gets like a real famous song and breaks it into three different vocal melodies, like a high, medium, and low range. And then she teaches those vocal melodies to the crowd, and then we sing the song back to her at the end. So you're at the pub the whole line.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

And it's always in tune. It's always in tune. It's like Jacob Collier without the wankiness. Yeah, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

Oh my god, I feel like so. If anyone ever gets a chance to go, I um it's been at the end more for the last few years, but she's just pulled the Horde and so for the next gig. So huge. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Um, and I reckon she should get an opera house because her that in the forecourt of the opera house would be fucking amazing. Because the more people you get, the better it is. Like, there's nothing like just singing with a whole bunch of people to make you feel good. We'll probably end up at the opera house, Larry. I'll have to at some point. It'll have to.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Has to be like in the forecourt there, yeah. But yeah, no, like yeah, I love that. I've always wanted to go to one, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

And we sang that song. Fuck, how can I not re It's uh um the New Radical song.

SPEAKER_05 49:11

What? Yeah, yeah, the End of Breakfast Club song. Is that no that's that's not you forget it? No, but um New Radical said music and me. Yeah, I've got the music, yeah. That's the one that goes. The fuck's it called? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, that one, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Nice, yeah, mad. So that was cool. Yeah, that was really cool. So get to that.

SPEAKER_05 49:31

Fuck yeah. Yeah, I um I went proper fucking mad for it on Friday night and went and saw Oasis, and it was like the best thing ever. Yeah, yeah, it was sick, it was so fucking mad. Like I uh I got into them in like high school, and like it was fucking great. We got there early, saw ballpark, who were great. I was also there with a couple of my mates who um one of our first gigs, or or it wasn't my first gig, but it was their first gig we went to when we were like 13. We went and saw Weasel at the Sydney Entertainment Center and Ballpark opened for them, and then we're all again watching Oasis with ballpark opening, which was kind of nice. That's pretty cool. Um, and ballpark ripped and were great, and then uh Oasis was just like crazy. I got to see Liam a couple of years ago at Splendor, and that was great. Um, but it was like uh yeah, it was like surreal seeing the both of them on stage just yeah, we're gonna be able to get it. Playing and fucking yeah, it was really cool. And I kind of when we bought the tickets like over a year ago, I was like, cool, got tickets, that's great. Really hope these two fucking make it to the stage. And then because we got tickets so long ago and like Friday I'd um like I don't know, had like one of those days where it's like alright, I need to leave at this time, but I've got to do 50,000 things before I leave for Oasis. I you know, picked up my girlfriend after work and we went down, and it didn't, I was like in a bit of a flap, and it didn't hit me until like the lights went down and they started like their intro to their show was like kind of you know Oasis breakup and it was like all the tabloid headlines and it was like all the reunion rumors, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and it was like they're coming to Sydney, and it was kind of like it like really immersed me in the like holy fuck, those two geezers are about to walk out on stage. And I was just like, no fucking way. Um so yeah, that was mad. That was fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

That would have that would have been yeah, that would have been such a spin out. Like saying, you know, it's the same. Like that's a you know, that's like one of the bands like you feel like you have to see before before you absolutely before they retire.

SPEAKER_05 51:34

It was also a band that I had kind of like drawn a line through, like I will never see this band. Like, you know what I mean? They kind of were in like a almost like a you know, fucking like Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, kind of like, you know, they're dead. You know what I mean? I was just like blind through it, I will not say Alasis. I'll say Liam, I'll say Noel, but I won't say them both. Um but yeah, it was mad. And then the day after that, I went to uh the Tari rodeo. Oh, cool, yeah, which was good fun. Was it good? It was good. I saw Jaden Kitchener Waters, who is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:07

I just got off the phones with him today.

SPEAKER_05 52:08

Yeah, he was great. Zick, really? Yeah, yeah. He's recorded up here before, and his set saw Zach Armstrong as well. Zach was great, and then um played some music with this artist I've been playing with, watched the bull rides. It was my first rodeo as well. Trail Mitt was there. Trail Mitt. Isn't he the mayor of Tyree? Pretty much. It was just walking around with kids, and there's like a fucking line of kids following you. It was great. Um, it was that was really fun. Bull bull riding is the craziest thing in the world to watch. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

My first rodeo was a Calgary Stampede. Huge, huge, yeah. Yeah, got to Canada, drove across the Rockies, got to the Calgary Stampede, and just seen these guys riding bulls and fucking chasing down like baby cows on horses and non-like lassoing them and then jumping off and grabbing them by fuck all I thought I was tough. I'm like, I'm not doing any of that shit.

SPEAKER_05 53:04

Yeah, Saturday was crazy. It was like um there was like eight-year-old kids on the back of cars and shit, and I was like, Um, and then next week I'm going to the opera house to see Casey Musgraves. Oh, beautiful looking forward.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Yeah, that's cool. Constant?

SPEAKER_05 53:18

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

Yeah, yeah, amazing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. I reckon one of the bands uh very like I reckon everyone needs to actually go see, and some people might cringe, go s go watch a Coldplay show.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah, I yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

Yeah, I like because I we did some actually ties into what I was talking about. I forgot to tell you. Yeah, this ties into the thing that I was talking to about before, what we're doing with Awesome Black, and but so we we did some cultural stuff with Coldplay um last year. And so I was up on stage just doing the you know cultural like proceedings and everything like that in front of like fucking 40, 60,000 people and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

Oh that's sick.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Yeah, yeah. So like and you did welcome to the country, did you?

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

Kind of kind of like that, yeah. But it was more so, it was just more like uh well, because it was just it's a bit contentious with some of the stuff, so I like just kept it safe. Um and but did it, and it was amazing, and we ended up um you know, I got to meet the band, got to have conversation with Chris Martin and stuff like that as well. His dad, my dad. It was you know, it was wholesome. Wow. Um so and he gives time to you, like he really does. He really does give time to you and stuff. Um and we actually kind of we pitched them this idea that we um because they don't really announce it too much, but they usually what they do is they take one of their sh like items for merch and everything like that, and it could be one of their like world tool shirts or whatever, Australian tool shirts, and we pitched them that oh to because they donate a hundred percent of the profits of that one shirt to to a foundation. We pitched them our foundation. And they said yes, we love it. That's mad. So we got four days worth of sales from that one shirt, which was you know, a lot of money. A lot of money, like a lot of money. So and we managed to start uh a Voices Rising program through that. So now we've like so now we've literally just given we've given like 60k to a um to a black fella hardcore band from New E that's mad.

SPEAKER_05 55:05

What's the band called?

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Homesick.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Yeah, yeah. So and then I was I was having a conversation with Joel and all that, um, the boys at South by Southwest because we announced it and we told him and it was just that was so funny because it was like, yeah, Coldplay funded your next album. Literally.

SPEAKER_05 55:18

That's fucking crazy. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Yeah, yeah. So I was like, that's like for us to like because Trav and I like I've been working with Trav, Travis DeVries now. He's the he's the managing uh managing well managing director, but also the founder for the company. And the basic thing is that we're branching out into like not just First Nation spacing but other spaces as well. Um but him and I just looked at each other, and this is the first time we've ever talked telepathically, and we're just there like with this massive cheers going on and shit like that, and him and I just look at each other just and we're just saying, This shit is crazy. And he's like, I know, gave each other the biggest hug we've ever had just in front of like that many people and shit. And I was like, man, so like I will always like, yeah, Coldplay was like, and then I did the same thing for Pell Jam, but it was just different like with Coldplay because you know they treated you like they really looked after you, and we're talking for a culture walk and everything like that. But it was funny because it was like because I had my um had my own little suite as well. So like they gave me my own suite and then they said they gave me tickets to the shows and everything. And I said to him, I was like, Can I just like after the first show? I was like, Can I just watch the show from like up here? And he was like, Oh, if you want, go ahead. So I was like, Yeah, sweet, because I was just right side of stage, like at um A Cor there. And so I'll be like, you'd be you'd be like, I'll be like, Oh, I'm just like I'm kinda tired, so I'll go have a nap, go have a nap on the lounge inside because I had the sweet door to myself and just wake up and just be like, all right, cool, open the door, 80,000 people just there. That's nuts. Because the other reason I did that was because like because I've got synesthesia, right? So I hear colours, cool, right? So which is like it's it's a bit of a process, but like sometimes when the like when the lighting show would be on for the it was just like and their show was based on lights heavily, yeah, it gets so overwhelming, and like this is a lot, and this doesn't make sense, that's not what I'm hearing. Yeah, it's like nah nah nah nah, that's not green, you know that that that sort of shit. So yeah, so yeah, but so it's good to just have that kind of like the sensory room of to myself that I just like managed to bargain for no reason. I was just like fuck it, alright, sweet, I can just have this room, no worries. Anyway, go see Coblay.

SPEAKER_05 57:13

Yeah, that's mad.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:15

That's unreal. Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

But yeah, but um but yeah, no, we just like yeah, but like we've we've and we kept a good contact with them and stuff, and you know, like you know, another band that we've also like, you know, hopefully like we've we've just been supporting as well massively is um a band called Selve. And Selve's another great group. Um they just actually recorded their next their last album in Abbey Road.

SPEAKER_05 57:38

Oh wow, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:41

That looked fucking nuts.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

They're so good, man. Like the first time I saw them live, like they're all just a mix between like just in normal, like sort of like indie rocked, and then all of a sudden they just absolutely fucking got some hard rock shit into them, and it's just like gets you going. It's like that is that's what it is. That's like that's rock and roll.

SPEAKER_05 57:59

Did you help them secure the funding for that? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

We I think we may like may or may not have. I might have to check with Trav, but we usually write letters of support support anyway. So like we're pretty much like, yeah, we'll we'll put pitches guys forward, but yeah, but we've like we've got a good relationship with that crew. Like when we did uh gig out of South by Southwest, um, it was our showcase night, um, and they like absolutely packed out the room, yeah. Like and like it was one of those ones where we had DJ, but then they had 30 minutes, like it was a weird, I don't know who programmed it, but they had a weird 30-minute set thing sort of thing where it was in between sets, but they absolutely packed out the room, people were lining up outside trying to get into the venue because like who the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_05 58:38

Yeah, literally what I did when I saw Abbey Road post them. I was like, who the fuck is this band? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Yeah, but no, they're just absolute talent, like just absolute talent of a band, and they're just all so tight, you know, just man, they just know how to make you dance and stuff. And they're like, and then we're just all looking, and it's like, you know, when it's a good show, when security on looking at the door, they're looking at the band. Yeah, and the bar stuff too was like, Can we get a drink? And be like, yeah, hang on, hang on myself. Yeah, that was good, that was a good gig, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, and that's the thing, man, just seeing like seeing a lot of these bands and like you know, um, especially my circle, where they've started from and where they're coming out to now is just it's ridiculous and to be part of their like you know, especially like the First Nations music scene to be a part of the some of these like young ones' journeys and some of them older than me, but you know, being part of their journey is just yeah, it's just been the sign, it's been a real trip, you know. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:29

Fuck yeah. What um in your very varied and uh uh travelled journey, both you know, here overseas different roles, different hats. What do you think the biggest challenge you've sort of faced is? Was it you know like kind of back in the day up in Queensland? Was it fucking overseas in in New York? Like what what did you find the most challenging so far?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

The most challenging I've probably had is just like I guess like being in sort of my positions that I've been in is not having as much control as I want sometimes. And it's not it's not like an ego thing or anything like that. But it's like trying to steer a ship and you're trying to like basically say, hey, get get here by this time, do this thing, record this track by then, and sometimes I've had to let that go and everything like that, where it's just like you know, like let some people just go about how they do. Um but I'd say probably, you know, that's probably the constant challenge that I deal with. Um But the big the biggest challenge I've ever had to probably come across is um I guess this one's a bit of a personal story because the reason why I started playing guitar was my sister. Right. And that's what this tattoo is, that's her going through the different family song lines and everything like that. So the reason why I play guitar and just like kind of always when I'm on stage we're doing big stuff, it was like the reason why I started doing it was because like my sister was sick and I play guitar to make her laugh. And that was kind of like that's always a constant reminder, and that's always been the biggest challenges, like you know, who am I playing for? It's like you know, who am I doing this for? You know, I'm doing this for me all all always. Um but the inspiration always belonged to, you know, my family and everything. My my grandmother just passed, my other grandmother just passed away back in Sri Lanka. And you know, same thing, I play for her um before a final before the final times and then she passed away. So it's like knowing that my my sound is like you know, my sound is also me. It's always me. It's just it's it's not the guitar making the sound, it's like I'm doing that with the guitar, you know. Um but it's also a story, it's also like just just making sure that um I'm not trying to tell a story to people, I'm trying to invite people to be part of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:48

Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:48

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:50

Awesome. Do you find um with your family you'd mentioned that you know uh decorated sporting family? Do you do you find that you get like the are you still doing the music stuff or are you still doing the the oh all the time, all the fucking time, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

All the fucking time. Like what?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

You're still playing guitar with it. I don't remember you when you were at camp and you were playing in a play guitar.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Yeah, I'm just it was funny. I had a gig with a I did a Reggae's covers gig out of Malabar um this year, and my aunnies and my uncles and a lot of my family live out of LAPA. Um LAPRA is for those that don't know who LAPR is. So anyway, just that you know, you have to you know to point it out sometimes. Um fuck sorry, you can't audibly hear a map, but that's where it is, South Didney. So yeah, and we're out of Malabar. Um a lot of my family were there, like my cousins and my fucking uh uncles and uh aunts and everything like that. And I don't some of them hadn't seen me since I was a kid, since I actually started playing guitar, and they're all just like what the fuck? Like they didn't realise I could actually play. Like I was just like, yeah, I played. I used to play, I used to practice six hours a day. Like that was what I used to do, man. And like, you know, and then there's somebody was like, they were just all so proud, you know. They was like, Yeah, are you still doing the music thing? It was like, Yeah, of course I am, you know, of course I still am, you know. Um because the thing is, and even my housemates like I don't play as much as I used to, um or practice as much as I used to, unfortunately, but um, but like I'm still playing in bands, I'm still playing in gigs and everything like that. Um and I'm still making music, but the thing is it's like it's always like it's always that thing where it's like yeah, I guess like for guitar mainly, you know. Um it's always uh it's like that thing's just mine, it's my sound, it's my thing. It's like I don't, you know, really I play the way I want and the way I love it and the way I interpret other people's sort of music and everything like that. And when when my family hear it and everything like that, they just say you're always a better guitar player than a footballer, so that makes sense. What position did you play? Uh so union I played, I I was flanker. So I was flanker and um I was yeah, because I was just I was just a psycho. Um so that's why so yeah, no, um, because I didn't really know where to put me um when I was 18. Um and then like well my footy career actually just ended up going on a big bloody bloody like you know, well, can't play any contact anymore because I had a massive skateboarding injury. Right. Yeah, so I went I was going 70 kilometres down a hill on a longboard. Right, yeah, no helmet or anything like that. Wow. I went, yeah, and then I like basically caught this like last bit of a dip part, and I just fell off. And so my head bounced off uh off the off this gutter, and I was full of gravel rash and everything like that. Eight base fractures in the skull, brain bleeding and everything like that. Couldn't smell, I still can't smell on my left nostril, like that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like I had bare palsy and everything like that, it couldn't blink out of my eyelid, so like my eye would just roll back, my face would droop down, and everything like that. Had to learn how to walk again. Like I'd be taking a piss in a jug because I couldn't I couldn't walk like properly. And I had to get my balance buttons, and then my mace would just come up in the corner and was like, Tress dad! I'd be like, I'm fucking pissing in a jug right now. But it's also like it was almost like Jesus Christ, this is the most like awkward thing I've ever had to do in my life, you know. Um, but yeah, no, like yeah, that was and but also like I had to learn how to walk again. Also, I had to learn how to play guitar again. Well, yeah, I had to teach myself again because I was just like I had to get my you know dexterity back. Yeah, all the dexterity back, all the muscle memory back, because it just the guitar didn't feel the same.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:15

Was it easy the second time?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

This well, yeah, but it's also like when you lose the ability to do shit like that, it's so confronting. Like it's so fucking confronting. The fact that you have to go in a wheelchair to take a shit, like that's nuts, you know. And then like the fact and you're trying to like you're trying to do the thing where you're walking one foot in front of each other like you're doing a sobriety test, but it's because your balance is so off, like you the crystals in your equilibrium have just been knocked out and they've got to re like literally move your body around and readjust you and shit. Wow, you know, so yeah, like yeah, but that was like but yeah, that's the reason why I stopped playing footy was that was the big reason. I was like, well, fuck it, I'm just gonna play music, you know. How old were you when you fucking came off the board? I was 18. That's nuts. I just graduated high school. Yeah, just graduated high school, spent my first new years as a legal. Adult in hospital. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:03

Yeah. Fucking hell. Yeah. So that was like. So that probably could have been the um biggest challenge overcome, couldn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

Oh, yeah, that one too. Yeah, you remember that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

Well got a brain injury, that's what I forgot. So we've had we've had yeah, one of the hardest challenges we've ever had. What when you look back over you know what you've done over the last few years, what's something that really stands out as a highlight of this podcast?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Good answer. Great answer. What do you mean great answer? Like this is like oh it's like and that and like there's there's there's a lot with that because you know the fact that I could sit here and just be like, you know, have a highlight just to talk about, you know, what I've done and what it all started from. It started from playing guitar. Like guitar was the real thing that really inspired me to do everything else. Um that's always like kind of like you know, that's like every like it's it's a highlight, it's always a highlight every every day you keep doing it, you know, and you keep being in this because I can't imagine myself doing anything else. Because there is nothing else for me besides doing what I'm doing right now, working in entertainment, playing guitar for people and playing guitar for myself and you know getting my music out there as well. Uh you know, like that's you know, like and then you know, getting to teach as well. Like I teach music up in the Northern Territory, um go you know, give back to communities up that way and you know, give them that experience because you know that some of those like some of those places are fucking rough ass. You know, but to give them like a perspective to be outside their own um situations out there and you know get make them fall in love with the music because they're all talented kids up there, you know. Some of the most talented kids that I've worked with, and you know, like last year, one of the teachers I worked with from Up That Way, he got um teacher with the year award at the Yaris, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:46

Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

Yeah, so you know, like we have like that's that's a highlight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

When you go up there, do you get to are you teaching music or are you teaching stuff like how to record a song? Like what's what what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:57

So for everything like that, man. Like I'm teaching them how to record music, I'm also just trying to get them on the instruments, like focusing on trying to develop students more. Um I'm planning to do a DJ workshop actually uh in Tamworth. Um and just like just basically like you know, just like showing them what they're interested in, showing them how like how what they you know, here's what we can do, like here's how we can build you up and everything like that. And it's hard because I'm only there, like like in the two towns, one in um Bullman, um sorry, uh yeah, Bullman, which is uh kind of just on the Central Island Highway. Um sorry, not Bullman, um uh Beswick, sorry. Beswick. Bullman's um up north, that's up north further. And another one called Timber Creek, which is near the border WA. So those are the two towns I teach out of. And it's just uh yeah, man, there's just some talented talented kids over that those ways. Um but they're just like they're learning about sound production, they're learning how to be a bit in a band, some basic music knowledge, you know, theoretical knowledge and shit, you know. So like just teach them all that. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry, and that's through the songroom, so you know, shout out to the songroom for giving me that opportunity and stuff, you know. Um, hopefully I can go back next year. I don't haven't had a chance to go this year because you know, everything's just been so chaotic, but um so good. Good chaos. Um chaos can be good. Um but yeah, um hopefully go back again.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:14

Very nice. Cool. So I think we've been cracking along pretty well today. Um have you anything else? What do you got coming up? Have you got anything that you're uh you're looking at in the future? Any any big shows, any anything?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:31

Um Fuck. Um so yeah, I've got I've got um so awesome luck. We're doing we're doing a showcase out of Tamworth. Um so by the time you probably this is in uh late November, we're doing stuff in Maitland as well. Um putting on some shows with um shows with some artists, some local and some not um out of Maitland uh in January. Uh and then my biggest show by the looks of it is that I'm going back into Indigenous contemporary dance next year. And I'm going to dance again, which means I gotta try and get my body right again. So which is like, oh, I haven't done that in a while. So that'll be yeah, so that'll be a challenge. That's the challenge, that's the biggest challenge. Yeah, yeah, getting back into dancing. Because I was up with the Australian ballet and I was working with this, uh I was doing a dance class. I was like, all of a sudden, I was like, do the dance cars, do the dance cars. I was like, man, I'm not flexible as I used to be. And like, yeah, and Gary Lang, bless his cotton socks. He was stretching, it was like we're doing some stretches and everything like that, and like he pushed, like he pushed me back so much that I was tasting my kneecap, and I'm like, I just have not been up on my dance for a while. So yeah, so and yeah, he called me like he called me a couple of weeks ago when I just just after I got back from New York and he said, uh, do you want to come and do this? I was like, fuck it, sure. Like I haven't done this in a while, so yeah, so that's gonna be that's gonna be a really nice gig. And yeah, and then yeah, that's a bit that's pretty much it. And then the new yeah, Chris Emsworth episode comes out on the like this month in November, 23rd, 24th on Disney Plus. So yeah. Huge. That's it. Fuck yeah. Yeah. And then um, yeah, try and find a partner to have a kid with and settle down. That's the big that's the biggest gig. Have we got successful right now?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:07

Have we got we got prospects? Or we got Huh? Have we got any prospects?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:11

No, I'm petrified of dating, man. I'm fucking petrified of dating, bro. Like that's it, man. Like after my last deck, then like after the dating stories I had this year, I'm like, nah, I'm good, bro. I'm good. I saw a fake pregnancy when I was a kid, so like, nah, maybe not. Yeah. Anyway, that's another podcast. Yeah. Oh no, you're tight with two, mate.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

It's all good. Jesus. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

Anyway, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

Well, the way I always love to end the podcast is by asking you to recommend me a song. So I don't know if I gave you the heads up on that or if I've thrown you at that thrown that at your last second, but I want you to recommend recommend me a song to listen to on the way home. Okay, cool. And and this will close out the podcast essentially as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Uh Locky Horror Picture Show by self. Dope. Sweet. Definitely, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:03

Lockie as in L-O-C-H-R-C. L-O-K-I. L-O K I. Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Locke horror picture show um by self. Absolutely listen to it. It's a fucking banger. I'm probably gonna listen all the way back as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:14

Recorded at the second best studio in the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:17

Everyone's gonna say this is the first, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

This is the first baby. Yeah, that's it. Oh no. Oh, that's cool. That's cool, that's cool. Um well, I just also just want to always thank the Grove Studios and the Grove Studios Academy for um you know putting on this podcast with me. Thank you, Owen. Pleasure, thank you. Sind across for me. Thanks, Tristan. No worries. And thank you to the listener. Thank you, listener. Thank you listen.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:45

Thank you, listeners.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

Let's hope so.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:50

Hey, my future wife might be hearing this now.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:55

Well, ever since I was a very little boy, I've had delusional dreams running through my head. The boot brother deals in my head and let the mouth do you know the play?