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Episode: 13 Season: 1 Final Four and Natty Recap and NBA Playoff Predictions

• Brendan Ruwart • Season 1 • Episode 13

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An incredible finish in College Basketball this year for Michigan. Zach couldn't be more happy, and Dom couldn't be more pissed. What a beautiful episode we have in store for you this week. Tune in for all the madness recap and NBA insights coming into the Playoffs. 

SPEAKER_02

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01

Yo. Yo, yo. Test B. Back to ZBD Sports. DBD Sports.

SPEAKER_02

Test D episode. Episode 13. 13 or 14? Which one is it? Is it 13? Yes, sir. Let's go. CBD Sports.

SPEAKER_01

Back to episode 13. National championship episode. Yes, sir. Come on. You know we love it today, man. We in a great mood all day, man. Oh, I know it, bro.

SPEAKER_02

The fact that you were high on Yukon all tournament just makes this that much sweeter, too.

SPEAKER_00

Like the end. Shit, what?

SPEAKER_02

But nah, you know what I'm saying, though? Like, you could have picked Arizona. Like, you could have picked Duke. You could have picked one of the one seeds, but you had to pick UConn. And UConn made a run. And not passed my voice. Come on. Got you in the end, though.

SPEAKER_01

Run couldn't last for the for the Yukon Huskos. But um, yeah. No, so I mean. We'll start off a little bit by talking about the Final Four games, though. Who led into that championship game? Um, Illinois Yukon. Uh Yukon was up um selling them out the whole game. I was I I mean, I was pretty surprised because I remember I told you I picked Illinois. I did that. I did, I didn't do that. I just, I just I just had a I just had a feeling that it was gonna be a Big Ten final, man. And it was, and I mean, Illinois pulled it close at the end. Like they they weren't too far off. But um, I was gonna say I think first half. I think you watched more of that game than I did because I was or did you watch any of it? Okay, you didn't watch any of it?

SPEAKER_04

No, yeah, that was uh Friday, right?

SPEAKER_02

It was a it was Saturday. I think it was the same.

SPEAKER_04

It was the same at work.

SPEAKER_02

That was the same day as the Michigan game. Okay. We got crushed at work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't watch I watched more of the Michigan and Arizona game because me and him. Yeah. Yeah, me, him, Ben, Lila, fucking we all watched um the rest of the Michigan and Arizona game. So when I got out, it was like fucking still first. I think it was like the start of the game. Because the game started at like what 940 or some shit like that. It was like nine. It was like 850 or 9. Yeah, okay, yeah. So it was yeah, okay, yeah, you're right, yeah. And so I just punched out and watched more of that game than the fucking UConn in Illinois. I'd come out every once in a while and check. And every time I looked, you know, UConn was kind of up by double digits.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I mean I saw like I saw they were up by a good amount at half time. Um or I mean maybe not like a good amount of time. Yeah, it was I think it was double digits. They were I mean, yeah, thir 37, 29 at half, and then outscored them by a point in the second half. So I mean, I think Illinois, like, I mean, they I mean they had a great run too. Like um, making it to the final four. I know not a lot of people picked that for sure. Um I mean they were I mean three C going into the tournament, like no, they definitely weren't weren't a you know like weren't weren't a bad pick to make it that far, but I just I I didn't pick them. Um because I mean I think just coming out like just coming out of that region, Houston, yeah. No, yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people probably had Houston coming out of that bracket, just making the finals last year, being as good as they were this year. I mean at least I at least had them going to the 360 Illinois.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. I or Iowa or goddamn Nebraska. And after that on my ass kind of for the way they're playing it. Even though Iowa didn't make a game of it. That's what they played right now. Iowa. Iowa Nebraska. Yeah, so they made a game of it. Yeah, I think Illinois just I think they they luck kind of ran out. Um their best player, you know, didn't shoot the ball well from three. And that's kind of what they uh kind of their calling card in the tournament. At least that's what I've seen against Houston. Like they knocked down a lot of threes against Houston. Everybody was shooting at bitch. You know what I'm saying? So they didn't really the shots weren't hitting, you know, um Yukon, as we've seen against Michigan, um, who was averaging 93 points a game, I believe, in the tournament. Held them to under 70 or whatever. Yeah, so I mean, and so uh Yukon, we know they have a uh a good defense, and funny enough, um the last three times that Illinois, or two times, yeah, last three times including this year, Illinois has went to the tournament. They've lost uh Yukon.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really? And every time they lost three times? Yeah, every time.

SPEAKER_04

Um, uh they had their lowest scoring output against Yukon. You know, so I just you know, I think more things more just you know the defensive intages uh Dan Early and him being uh a great coach, and then UConn always being a good defensive team. You mean all tournament. Their offense wasn't the best in the tournament, you know what I'm saying? But their defense kept them in a lot of games. Right, yeah. And their offense kind of, you know, you had a couple clutch players, obviously. Yeah, I mean, dude, because they had to play against Duke, they had to play tremendous defense in that second half for their offense to even have a chance of you know me coming back as they're down by what 20?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I know, I know Duke is upset that they didn't get a chance to. I mean, I was gonna say, like they like just assuming that they would have got past Illinois, but like I knew I know Duke is upset that they didn't like they didn't get a chance to play that final four game. Like that that buzzer beater that you guys hit, like that should like it was definitely it's definitely a march madness-sized play. Like, I feel like a play like that really doesn't happen like like I mean, yeah, it like it could happen in the pros, but like I feel like that's just a college basketball march madness-sized play. Like, that's just to win the game by one, like that's yeah, and and to not and to not and to knock off Duke as well. Like, for it to be Duke is like, yeah, of course. Like, of course, when that of course when that shot left his hand, it was going in, man. Like, it was it was tough. Yeah. Dude, I kind of I kind of wanted the rematch against Duke. I'm not gonna lie, man, but I'll I'll take it. We still got the Natty, so I mean, I can't be too mad about it. But um, I mean spill over into this Michigan-Arizona game a little bit. Um, yeah, I mean, we were our off our offense was clicking first first 10 minutes, like first 10-15 minutes of the game. It just really lost. They just they just I mean, yeah, it was all game. But I'm just I'm just saying the first I'm just saying like the first like 10-15 minutes, we were 30 to fucking like uh 20, 21, maybe.

SPEAKER_04

I think that's the closest that Arizona cut into. And then we were just like I said, I watched pretty much.

SPEAKER_01

I think we I think halftime was like 49 to fucking like I don't think they had 30. 48 or something like that. I don't think they had 30. It was like 28-49. No, 48-32. So we were we were up by we we were up by 16 and a half. But yeah. I mean just put another 43 on them in the second, like to put up 91 on that Arizona team who had played everybody, everybody they played all season really well. The only two teams they lost to was Kansas and Texas Tech, and they were back to back, and they lost to Kansas by I think I want to say like three, three, two or three, and then Texas Tech and OT by like three or four. So like both of their losses all season were super valid. Um, and I mean to just to go in there and have the offense playing as well as it was. I think Arizona was kind of just like, I mean, just kind of shell-shocked a little bit. Like, like they like they knew what they were like they knew what they were coming up against in that Michigan team. But I mean, you kind of saw it in the UConn game a little bit, like in the first half, we couldn't, like, I mean, it was like you guys were in the second, or like UConn was in the second half, like you guys weren't knocking down threes in the second half, we weren't knocking down threes in the first half. Like, we could have jumped out to a 10-15 point lead easily if we knocked down a few of those threes. Like, it's the same thing with you guys. Like, could have been could have been back in it. You guys could have put up like a five-point lead or maybe on us in the second half if you guys are knocking down a few of those shots. But I mean, it's it's just the way basketball goes. Like, like first half, UConn's knocking down theirs, second half, you're not. First half, I mean, Michigan wasn't really knocking down anything, second half, but I mean, we hit two clutch threes, though. Like the two only two threes we hit were pretty fucking clutch. So, I mean, we need we got the two we needed to go down. But um, yeah, I mean, just I w I was definitely surprised in that Michigan-Arizona game. Like, I mean, I was I was confident going into it that we were gonna win, just because I mean, like we were, like we were talking about like in these last three episodes. I thought just matchup wise, I thought we would dominate the middle, um, dominate the paint, and as long as we could, I mean, ultimately, as long as we could shoot well, I wasn't super confident that Arizona was gonna be able to shoot super well from the perimeter. Right. And that was the case, so um handled them pretty well. But I mean, yeah, you were saying that was the game that you were watching most of. So, I mean, what did you think out of that game? Because that was the one that I was saying, like, I mean, I guess it I guess it didn't end up being the I mean like the like yeah, like the like the championship, because the Michigan Yukon game was a bit better, lower scorings, a bit more defensive. But I mean, yeah, I mean, what did you think about Michigan just absolutely running over Arizona? I know a lot of people didn't expect it to be a twenty like fucking eighteen point win.

SPEAKER_04

Like, I think that was something like going in a game not to produce a bad team, but the players going into that product game. And also kind of opposite free throws versus the championship game, whereas they shot 22 free throws versus 16 versus y'all, but the difference was they missed seven.

SPEAKER_02

Arizona missed seven?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so I mean, obviously if you miss, you you make that's it makes it 80, 81, or 80 to 91, which doesn't change really the outcome, but um it changes the situation and where you you I mean during a point in the game, right, where you're missing these free throws.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And so you mean if you go fit 22 times, you mean you shoot 15 out of those 22, like that's gonna kill you. You gotta make the free throws. Free throws are, especially in a game like that, free throws are, and in college, you know, with the the the one and ones, um, you know what I mean, because you're not guaranteed two shots every time that you're in a bonus. I don't think that's a good thing. I'm not saying that that, like I said, it's not gonna change the ball.

SPEAKER_01

Like in a in a in a game between two one seeds and fucking because it was the between two one seeds, this was the biggest point, like this was the biggest winning margins, like and also y'all shot the ball. 15 points has been the most that a one seed has ever beat another one seed.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, y'all shot 12 of 27, 44 percent. So they shot six of seventeen. So y'all hit six more threes, and they missed.

SPEAKER_01

I was telling you, Arizona's not a good three-point shooting team all year. They have like they haven't been very good all year shooting the three. Um they're they're usually like they're usually um Usually inside the paint. Like, what were they shooting? Um, were they shooting just on their two? 38% from field goal total.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know about twos, but field goal percentage total. Uh they shot 38, y'all shot 44.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Yeah. So that wasn't really much of a discrepancy, but um I mean, like just like definitely the fact that we were knocking down our threes just let us blow the like, I mean, because we were up by 1015 the entire game. Like that's not the that's not the way that it was on Yukon because we weren't knocking down our threes in the first half. Like, if we were knocking down our threes in the first half, it would have been a 10, it would have been at least a 10-point lead going into halftime because we were still up on you guys like 33-29, I think. Like we would have had 40 at halftime if we knocked down a few more threes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then at that point, like you guys wouldn't have had as much, like, yeah, you guys still would have been trying to make runs at it, but I mean, we just like I mean, our offense probably we still would have been able to answer, like, I don't know, bro. Like, it just would have been able to hard it would have been harder to make it a run if you guys were down ten and a half versus four, you know what I mean? So I don't know, but um, I guess we can kind of transition into the Michigan Yukon game a little bit. Um wrap up on that, because yeah, I mean, I feel like we we spent a little bit of time on this. Um because it yeah, because I mean it was it was a good game. Like throughout the first half, like I I wasn't expecting I mean I was expecting to beat you guys by or to beat them by like 10. I was crazy.

SPEAKER_04

I was saying nothing to do with the game, but you know I'm just looking at playing Arizona's lot their games against Utah State? It shot 40 free throws. That's crazy. Arizona did? Yeah, that's nuts. 40? And then the game before they shot 32 or a game after. How many did they shoot against us? 22. So they just like that's like they that's crazy, bro. That they yeah. Wow, I just yeah, that's 40 free throws. 40 is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

So they're getting in the paint and just getting to the line, bro. Yeah, I mean, that's really what they're doing. Right there, right? They're just trying to bully. They don't even know. And they weren't bullying us, bro.

SPEAKER_04

They don't shoot it. Yeah, like I looked at all their attempts. Uh the most they had was like 18 or 19. As a team, 19 threes is unheard of. It's not. You know what I'm saying? Anybody. I mean, that's especially these days. Everybody shooting a goddamn three ball. UC teams are jacking, you know, I mean, 25 to 30 a game. You know what I'm saying? So uh so it's not, I mean, I can't even say they're a bad shoe. They just don't shoot the three a lot because they don't have to. They fucking go in the free throw line 40 times a game.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But against against bro, I mean, they should, I mean, they should have known against Michigan that we got we got a good, like, I mean, our our in like our our paint defense is fucking like dude, we got three three guys that are six eight plus, all like are and are all about to fucking.

SPEAKER_04

Well, they got big boys too. They just couldn't finish around the rim. I think that's just a bit of a man.

SPEAKER_01

When you when you when you when you got a when you got a seven three, when you got someone with seven three in there, they got a seven one.

SPEAKER_04

So I mean it's two inches, but this you I mean like it's yeah, no, I did big. They got big boys too. That's why they attacked the paint. I mean, y'all did y'all y'all big boy, y'all hit the three, and y'all big boys scored. I mean, that's l really, I mean, the three was you mean like six more threes. That's 18 more points.

SPEAKER_01

That boy Mar did have his best game of the year against Arizona, though. I think he had 27. I don't think he's had more than that this year.

SPEAKER_04

No, yeah, he's been, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He he went crazy against Arizona, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think he had three blocks. Bro, he had 26, 9 boards, three or two blocks, three assists.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think he's had a game where he went over. He averages 12 on the year, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but you don't have to. The way y'all the way y'all play, it's a balanced attack.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but like it's not one player. I mean, especially against the team that has like probably the like like I mean, I don't like I don't know who has the paint, like who really has the best the best paint defense in the league, but like Arizona being as big as they are. I mean, I'm assuming they're probably pretty fucking good at um interior defense.

SPEAKER_04

We'll say I mean UConn obviously has probably got to be up there. I mean, because they y'all overall, nobody, it was from watching a game, it was sloppy. Um, and no team overall played good. Right? Both teams shot bad for three, shot bad from the field. Only plus was you guys only missed two for three free throws all game. Um, UConn missed, I think, five. Uh, but other than that, there was not, I mean, a rebound in the we missed three, you guys missed four.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, so yeah, so yeah. We you you you only had 12, we had 25.

SPEAKER_00

And you guys like it's your own.

SPEAKER_01

I know, I know, I know, I'm just I'm just I'm just saying, oh yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_04

But no, um, yeah, bro. So I think um, yeah, I mean, and like I said, you know, Mara wasn't getting no shots inside. Y'all got a few a couple uh tip dunks or tips in from from Johnson and just from uh a couple players that are down in there. But I mean, I think they they out rebounded y'all um on the offensive board and overall. Offensive, yeah. And like I said, Marr didn't shoot good. No, nobody really shot good at all. I mean, they didn't you mean like it's I want to say Cadell or Cadot. It was five for eleven. Yeah, he probably shot the best out of you. But like Jackson didn't shoot well.

SPEAKER_01

They just didn't shoot it a ton.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean, bro. And they didn't par they didn't play Marr that much. McKenny was two for nine. That was what was telling us about it. But he hit that big three though.

SPEAKER_04

That one three that I mean that that was a big three.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he had eight rebounds, too. He was good on the board. Yeah, no, he was, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Y'all, I mean, and and honestly, you know, in my opinion, um, not to take nothing away from y'all, you know what I'm saying? Uh I just I think the free throws kind of uh some I alluded to to B-man, kind of altered the game because, yes, if y'all are saying y'all threes, it would be a different story. But if you think Yukon wasn't hitting their zero, they only hit five threes in the first half, y'all hit one.

SPEAKER_02

So it wasn't like they were any in the first half.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah, so yeah, so that's it. I mean they hit five, yes, they hit five threes, five for like 16 or 17 from three in the first half, I think it was Yukon. So they didn't shoot the ball from three well at all. But those free throws, uh, especially at a timely manner, like one of them, case in point is when it was 22 to 18, uh, they come down, miss a shot. Y'all come down, they call the foul, cut it within two, they get a you know, it was a physical game overall. You know what I mean? Like from both ends, it was physical. Um, and so I just, you know, for me, uh I know you've like being biased, but you know, I'm just like, I just felt like like every, it was they they were calling a lot of ticky-tack fouls um in the first, and the foul is kind of, you know, if if if you're you gotta say y'all shot, I'm gonna say 11. Y'all shot 12 free throws in the first half and made 11 of them. UConn shot three. That's eight points. That's a big, you know what I mean? That's an eight-point swing right there. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's big. That kept y'all in the game. You know, I'm not gonna lie. The first through the first, whatever, the first like 10, 12 minutes of the game, UConn was playing better than y'all.

SPEAKER_02

But the fouls, you know, bro, the fouls, bro, it wasn't Tiki Tac, bro. Y'all were fouling us, bro. It was it was jersey grabbing, bro. It was fucking broken.

SPEAKER_04

But y'all was fine. Y'all was following them on the other end of the winner.

SPEAKER_01

Not really. It was a few plays.

SPEAKER_04

You need to be watched from my bro. That's not a foul, that's not contact. My man's like, what are you? Come on, bro. That's a foul. Like, okay, I can tell you one, for example, that they're fighting for the ball. I can tell you one, for example, they both dole for the ball and they call it a foul on Yukon. When it's a free ball, y'all both are it's it's it's the ball is loose, right? So they they both dole for it and they called a foul on Yukon. He didn't undercut him, he didn't push them, he called a foul on Yukon. Then y'all are in a double bonus at a time. That's two more free throws. That's what I'm saying. Like, little, bro, I'm not, and there's another one where y'all, you know, they damn near pressing all the way up court, and bro, it's like, he's on. You know what I'm saying? Like, he, I mean, he's not letting him get in any room at all. You know what I'm saying? He's like chess pushing them, the ball goes out of bounds, no foul caught, Michigan gets the ball. There's a several plays where I'm like, bro, how is this like, and I get like Michigan, you know what I'm saying, was the aggressor as far as like going in the paint in the first. So I understand why they probably got a lot of more, a lot were more kind of fouls because UConn was shooting the three ball more. Michigan wasn't. Michigan was attacking the paint. You know what I'm saying? Mara was shooting the ball. Johnson was in the paint. Caddell was driving in the paint. I mean, y'all shot the ball back, but you only shot the three like 10 times in the first half. That's not a lot. It's not like y'all really weren't shooting a lot of three.

SPEAKER_02

I think we were like over eight in the first time.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so yeah, so I mean, so that's not really a lot of three points at the end. Y'all are attacking the paint. Y'all had, I want to say, 18 to 7 points in the paint at halftime.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that sounds about right.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I mean? So that's what I'm saying. Y'all are attacking the paint. So by nature, of course, I understand they're probably gonna call a foul. But I there are, I just I don't know. I think the fouls uh change and also the shooting. You know what I mean? Like y'all hit, and I think Yukon even hit more threes than y'all in the second half. Yukon just started off over nine, over ten, but Mullins hit a three. Solo and Solo hit a three. Or Mullins hit two threes and then Solo hit a three. And y'all only hit one or two threes in that in a two. So I said, so I mean they even hit more solo. But um, you know, I like I said, nothing to take you out. I just think, you know, fouls and shit like that, that slows the game down and changes the momentum where you're on a break, you're on a run. Um, and also I will say, you know, y'all played tremendous defense. You know, the blocks, y'all, I think one of six or seven, it was several blocks that y'all had when they got to the paint. You know what I mean? And also, it's a lot of shots collection from UConn where I'm just like, what are you doing? Why are you putting this up? Even the one we talked about today on that fast break. Yeah. Whatever it was to me, like, bro, just take your time, kick the ball off. Like, you got 24 seconds. Yeah. 30. Actually, you're saying, Kyle, you got 30 seconds. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't like, because they oh yeah, it went out of bounds and somebody saved it, and he caught the ball, went up, and then went up again, and bro, contested it. Hell, he played great defense, and y'all end up getting the ball coming down, and that's when fucking McKinney hit the goddamn three. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I just yeah, we were gonna be able to do that. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04

It was 62 to 60. That's something like, so that's something like if you go and hit that shot at 65 to 6, or yeah, 64 to 67. Or no, yeah, 63. So it's 65 to 67. That means Michigan's probably gonna call a timeout game plan. Who knows what happened at that point? You can inbound, you can steal it, whatever. It's a one-possession game at that point. But then you go down and do some silly ass shit by putting that shot up, and they come down and hit a three, that's a five-point swing. You know what I'm saying? Like at that, it goes from a possible two-point game to a fucking uh a seven-point game. You know what I'm saying? With 30, 40, 50, whatever seconds left. Like in Michigan, at that rate, and a rate that y'all I looked at y'all thing, y'all don't miss free throws. Y'all miss ton free throws all tournaments. So the way they hit no three, we were they were lucky to get those two misses from whatchamacallit when they got them, and they couldn't capitalize. Caravan came down, got a little clean shot off an off-ball screen. You know what I'm saying? Was a little too deep, and they could have hit that, and that would have been the game would have been a two-point game at that point. You know what I mean? So, you know, the UConn definitely had their chances. They did. Um, they had their chances pretty much all game, but they just couldn't, you know. I just the certain the shot selection. I'm just like, come on, man. Like, you gotta what are you doing, man? Like Caraban coming down, hitting fadeaway mid-range or shooting fade a rambles. Like, that's not your game. And also, I'll tell you nothing, like, it came down to the battle of the others. Because neither one of those teams have uh a play, like a Cameron Boozer or a fucking Peterson or a AJ. Like, they don't have a player they can go to every time to go get a bucket, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a team effort. Like, you look at the highest player that average points per game on y'all team is what, 14, 15?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think I think yex, or I think Yaks was averaging like 16.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah. So you know I mean, like, so it's it's it's and the same thing with with UConn, I think the highest is 15.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So it's by committee. You mean you brought it?

SPEAKER_02

I also just want to I also just want to point out, bro, after they got that steal, it was 56, 62. So we went so if y'all would have scored that, I mean, yeah, it would have been a four.

SPEAKER_04

What's how much time was left?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. 60, or it would have been 62, 58, yeah, but 230.

SPEAKER_04

Right. So that's I mean, that yeah, that's and y'all come down and hit that three, right?

SPEAKER_01

It was still 150 left, bro. No, yeah, I mean, yeah, but I mean that's that's that's killer, though.

SPEAKER_04

Like that's demoralizing.

SPEAKER_01

Because then Solo, I think Solo still came down and got, or oh, was that? He still came down and got one, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but I was like, that was to make it 60 to 67, and that's when he hit that three. That's what I'm saying. They had two chances towards the end. Like I say, if they make that layup, it's a two-possession game, right? Like I said, it's just the fact that they missed the layup and y'all came down and hit the three.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's what, and that's demoralizing. That's like, that's like we playing 2K, bro. Come on, like we in the wreck. You know what I'm saying? We go down and do some dumbass, take a bad shot, they come down and smack a three. Niggas gonna be sick after that. You know what I'm saying? You like, oh that just like we was like, especially if we've been saying we've been losing all game. Like you get into that, you like, yeah, you find you finally get back to that. Man, bro, that shit, it takes all the life out of you, bro. Like, you mad, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I think that kind of that killing, and also, you know, they had another chance later on with Caravan. But, you know, I mean, Michigan was overall, you know, probably the best team all year. You know what I mean? Like, you can still um because it'd have been a different game with Duke. You know what I mean? Like, Duke, and you know, but like, but it don't matter. You know, y'all won and sometimes, you know, the best team don't always win, but y'all's the best team uh on the fucking on the court um that night. Y'all's the best team pretty much all tournament time. Um, I will say y'all kind of had a slight, other than Arizona, UConn, a little slight, easy road. Well, you know, a little, you know, kind of a little bit. Listen a little. You know, it wasn't that hard. Y'all had to go through a gauntlet. I will say that. But it don't matter. Y'all beat the two best teams. Four, a four or one and a two. Alabama. Yeah, I mean, but we're talking about Alabama. We talked about how Alabama was like a iffy four, right? Everybody in that SEC has been iffy. Arkansas, Bama, even Florida. They all got compared to Big Ten and Big 12, like, they not fucking with, like, you know what I'm saying? They're not.

SPEAKER_02

The fact that we wiped Arizona, bro. Arizona would, bro. That's my thing. I don't think bro, do you think Arizona would have lost anybody else? You think anybody else played?

SPEAKER_04

Or you think maybe, I mean, I I guess I think Yukon could be it could be anybody. I mean, like, they could have beat Michigan. They could have beat y'all.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't even like. So let's, or so let's see, like, coming out of that region. Like, I don't think I mean I think Michigan.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, no, no, no. I mean, coming out of where y'all was at? No, I don't think maybe, no, no, no. I thought you were somewhat like in general. Okay, yeah. I mean, like I said, I because I had UConn in Arizona going. I still had UConn win. I thought it'd be a close game and low-scoring game, similar to what Michigan and UConn did. Uh, but you know, um I'm not y'all's a y'all was a good team all year. Y'all y'all showed it. Y'all played tremendous pretty much all fucking year. Defensively, defensively, we were, yeah, I mean, we were the one.

SPEAKER_01

Y'all got big down there. It's tough. I mean, we got bigger. It's tough. Tough to do anything, bro. And then we got we got shooters, our perimeter, our perimeter guys could play defense this year. I mean, it was it was great to watch Michigan this year for sure. Um 37 out of 40 games dubs.

SPEAKER_04

So it was 30, 35, 36 years. That's 89. So I mean that's you know that's that's for you know all the people that got there and couldn't, you know, Chris Weber's and Trey Burks and fucking Hardaways and all the fucking all the other players that came. Mo Wag, you mean the Wag brothers, all the ones that came everywhere that kind of got there. Mo Wag was a part of that team when they lost the game. I think when they lost Villanova.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Moe was. Moe was, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But yeah, so I go, you know, in Michigan, like I said, you know, they they deserved that shit. Uh they played great, it was a great fucking game. I'm glad it was a good game. You know, like I said, but I really didn't have a dog in this fight. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, because like at like at a point, you don't want a championship game to be a blowout.

SPEAKER_04

You try to game at a point in Arizona, right? You know what I'm saying? Like I'm first by the first five minutes, you're like, God damn it, bro. It's 18 is five. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're like, bro, come on, man. I want a good game. And I'll just, you know, also my hatred towards Michigan. So I'm like, you know, it's always everybody versus Michigan.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's just tough seeing us the best in the country. Yeah, yeah. Got the job done this year, bro. So the best for a year. Yeah, like I was saying, we better be the next. We're about to be the best team in the country until next national championship comes around. So I got a yeah, I got it, I got a year of ragging rights.

SPEAKER_03

I had a last for Ohio State. So it feels good. Yeah, it does, bro. It does. It definitely does.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I mean, what's going on to that?

SPEAKER_01

Talk about uh, yeah, I mean, we're getting into the last little strange NBA. I mean I mean, you know, you know, I want you know, I want the Pistons to bring over that luck or to bring over that bring over that happiness, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, I just I want to see us, I mean, of course I want to see us get to the finals, right? And put up a good fight against most likely San Antonio or OKC. But I mean, if whoever we come up whoever we come up against in the Eastern Conference finals, whether it's Boston, I mean, honestly, I think Boston, like, like, depending on the route that we have to take throughout the playoffs, depending on who takes us to however many games or whatever it is, um, I like the only like I think if we came up against the Cavs, Knicks, in the Eastern Conference Finals, um, or even I mean, honestly, those are like those are the only like it's it's like Celtics, Celtics Cavs, and um Knicks are like the only teams that I could see making it to the Eastern Conference Finals. And the only team I'm worried about is the Celtics, right? So it's like you gotta worry about that when that comes. Um but yeah, I mean we got these last we got three more games uh this week, and then play in starting on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then playoff starting not this weekend, but next weekend. Um, because final day is this Sunday. So I mean, it's pretty pretty tight in the east right now. Um we got a we got seven through nine or six through nine is all within half a game. So I mean, any of them could potentially get that sixth spot, which is first, first, like they don't have to play in the play-in, which would be, I mean, all four of these teams, Toronto, Orlando, Charlotte, Philly, I mean, they all got a solid, all got a solid shot. Um yeah. So I mean I mean, you want to spit a little bit on on the rest of the on the rest of these records. I mean, what do you think? I think because I mean let's I mean start with Toronto, I guess, because this is they're in the sixth spot, but only half a game up on 76ers. Heat, uh, Heat Knicks Nets. Um, I mean, I think they just beat Miami tonight by like 15 or 20. So I'd probably see him, but I mean that's a I mean, I don't know, like maybe I could see the Heat Heat winning that game. Like, I mean, that's that's a toss-up, but I mean that's like that's again Toronto should win. But I see like the Knicks should win that, but I mean that's a that's another toss-up too. I feel like the Knicks probably should win that. And then but I take Toronto to go two and one. So 76ers would have to go three and oh to um they could. Yeah, I mean, that Rockets game. So I think this tomorrow will be pretty big, and then Pacers Bucks should be two two double digit blowouts. Um I mean, but yeah, I mean honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing I would not mind seeing Philly get the sixth seed just because I don't wanna I wouldn't want to see the Pistons play playing them in the first round. I don't need I don't need to see MB, Tyrese, and PG. Um Yeah, no, I don't want to worry about that until a little bit later. But then I mean the big one the big one for me is Charlotte. I wanna like I'm interested to see where Charlotte ends up. I want to see who they play in the play-in. Um see if they can get on that um seven eight so they have at least like at least that one chance if they lose to play the winner of the 9-10 game and at least get the eight.

SPEAKER_04

I think I trust them uh maybe the most out of the four teams. Because I don't know uh Embiid, you know, if he's it it hinges on him. You see the difference. You know, when he's playing, you know, now they've they're six and four, seven and three in the last ten, he's played majority of those games. And when he plays just a big difference.

SPEAKER_03

Paul George is also a big difference.

SPEAKER_04

I mean first game he came back 39 or something like that. And then he had almost a 40-point game, and that's I mean he's been getting, yeah, but Paul George fades and he comes in.

SPEAKER_01

I mean you still got Tyrese though. Tyrese is pretty consistent. Oh, you know, he is.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, yeah, no, Tyrese is by just you know, Mbi Tyrese to get his bucket. Is is you know, when he's right and when he's playing, yeah, he's one of the best big men. So Tyrese Maxi is good, very good. I mean, like none none towards him, but uh, you know, that team success hinges on Embiid. And so, you know, I don't know, he might tweak a knee, tweak something, and then now he's out for the last two, three games. Um, and then Orlando has been slumping as of late. Celtics, Bulls, T Wool's, last three, four of them. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I see him going one and two uh because it's a race still going on over there in the West. Uh so T Will is gonna have something to play for Celtics. Yeah. May not, I mean, yes, Celtics are too, because I'm well not really, because they they're three games up on New York. So the chances of New York and they're not getting the first spot. Right. So I mean they may not play. They're gonna get the second spot. They may not play their starters. So I mean they may at best go two and one. Uh Toronto, my opinion. I mean, they they could go two and they could go three, they could go three and oh, they're probably possibly, or they can go one and two.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, like you were saying um a little bit earlier, the Knicks and the Cavs are kind of fighting for that three-four spot. So depending on this got something to play for.

SPEAKER_04

So that's what I'm saying. That's they must have that might be they they they might go two and one. You know. Um, but also I don't know uh I'd have to check the season record between the two of those, because I mean if it comes down like that. Yeah, that'll determine a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh but Orlando was like I said, they've been uh two and eight in the last ten. Or one, you know, one and six, one and seven. They haven't played good after having after having a seven-game win streak after that. I think they lost six or seven or eight in a row. Um Charlotte's been the most consistent out of those four, in my opinion. Um 76ers was once, I think, in the fifth or sixth seed. Now they're fighting to stay to stay out of the play in. You know what I mean? So like I mean, yeah, no, I mean yeah, they're in the play in. They haven't looked good the last month. They've looked good the last week, week and a half, but overall 76ers have not looked good uh the month of March. It's a new month now, so I guess we'll say since April, they've looked, you know, the best they probably have because they've had all three. But we don't know how long it's gonna last. All three of them have the injury history. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, especially at this age. E 30, Maxie might have, you know, it's it's it's it's horrible to him. You know, Charlotte has been pretty much healthy all year. Their nucleus has been there all year.

SPEAKER_01

Lamello, Conan, Miles, yeah, he's been on the rarity.

SPEAKER_04

One of the rare games. I mean, it's one of maybe one of the most games that Lamelo's played ever, I want to say. Might be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I mean? Like, and partially it's because they're in the playoffs. You know what I mean? Like, they've actually got something to play for, and it's the first time in his Charlotte career that they have. Yeah. So maybe that's why he is uh around because I know he was kind of like maybe on a trading block early in the season, like they were talking about maybe trading him um away. And obviously, you know, that's been less and less of that because they've been winning.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because yeah, I mean, because he's doing good too. The last two or three months they've looked good. Yeah, I mean, I think tonight, bro, on Chicago or on um the Celtics, bro. Shot 12-26 or 12-25. 12 for 26 and 36, 60. In the game before that he played good too. Yeah, 35, 8, and 3. I mean, bro, he's been he's been going for for like 20, 20, like between 20, 25, and 30 consistently. Yeah. But he got a team now.

SPEAKER_04

He's got he's got three other people besides himself that can go and get 20 plus at any point. Miles Bridges can drop 20, Brandon Miller can drop 20, and Canal can drop 10. I mean, so you have three. I mean, it's the first time he's ever had that. So I think Charlotte's the best team.

SPEAKER_01

Just the fact that they don't have any playoff experience scares me a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I mean, yeah, and Toronto. I mean, Toronto and that that new that team, I don't think they didn't make a playoffs last year. Um, Orlando has the most experience.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I was I was gonna say that Orlando has like they have the last two years of experience with Paulo and Franz, like both on the same team. So, like, like that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04

Franz just got back. So we'll see how he does, right? He just they gotta, you know, take their time with his injuries because he's had an injury history. So, you know what I mean? Like, it's it's and that's kind of what sank their ship last year is injuries. And they just haven't looked right all year. You know what I mean? They just yeah, I mean, yeah, even you know, I thought bringing over um uh Bain would like kind of add on. I thought I'm like, okay, this may not take this, take them over top as far as like winning championship, but I think this would take I thought it would take over top as far as the top three. Yeah, I thought it'd be a top three, top four team in the EC this year. I really did. You mean because you got three players that can drop 25-30. You mean on a given night, you got three players between the biggest.

SPEAKER_01

Franz Paulo and Desmond.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I mean, you got yeah, so I so I'm like, man, that that right there, you got a balance, right? You got all three of them that can shoot the ball. You know, two is better than one Franz isn't really. I mean, he shot 30% from last year. Most of the other shot is 35%, which isn't bad, but you know, he's more of mid-range, off the dribble, because he's a big. So he's you know he's big exhausted.

SPEAKER_01

He's not gonna put up as many threes. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_04

But Paolo, he's gonna shoot a three, and Desmond Bain, that's what they brought him over there to shoot a fucking three.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I feel like Paulo's getting downhill more than he.

SPEAKER_04

No, he is, but he gets but he's a he's a shooter. He's not a person that you're gonna, you mean like he's gonna shoot the ball private, well, four to seven times from three a game. I feel like. I mean, like he's got that's just you know, he he's his game is like that in Duke. Yeah, he's a mid-range to three. You know, he'd take you off the dribble, fade away mid, or just pull up from three. I mean, like he'll get to the cup too, because he's big, he's six nine.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, but he liked to shoot the ball. You know what I mean? So I just thought, I mean, he's not like I say he's not the best shooter, but he can shoot. You know what I'm saying? He's somebody that you're not finna sit there and just let shoot all day.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like I feel like Franz has low-key been able to shoot better than him.

SPEAKER_01

Not this year. From three, or yeah, maybe not, maybe not this year, but like just over like last few years. Well, he'd been elite longer too, though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, he's been in the league for he's been elite for five years.

SPEAKER_01

This is his fifth year. And he's he's always been, I mean, his first two years in the league, 35, 36 from three, and then 28, 29, and this year 33. So the last two years he actually wasn't shooting that well from three. But the his first two years, he was 35 and 36. Yeah, yeah. What is this, Paolo's third year in the league? Or fourth?

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So, I mean, yeah, so yeah, about you're right. Actually, he's about to say he's average 31%. Okay. Um, yeah. But yeah, so I mean, even with that, you know, I still thought Orlando would be uh more of a uh a better team this year for sure. Um Charlotte's kind of they've Charlotte's lit the best out of those four hell in the second half. I mean to be honest with you. I mean, Charlotte's got one of the better second half records uh in the league. You know what I mean? And obviously those two, because Toronto was, you know, third or fourth at one point in time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, they between Orlando was. I mean, Toronto, Toronto was fourth for for a while.

SPEAKER_04

For a while, yeah, they were. Yeah, they McClevel were jockeying back and forth for a little bit. Even New York. Yeah, you know what I mean. And then they kind of they've sunk down, and then Philadelphia's been kind of on a slide since, you know, because Paul George got suspended, and then a little bit after that, and B got hurt again. So they New York, I mean, Philly's just kind of Charles' only one.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like Ty I feel like Tyrese has been out a little bit in that. Yeah, he's been in and out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, in and he didn't play against the Pistons the once or the one game that we played him in Detroit. I remember that. Like, because no, I didn't see that game because I was supposed to see that. Game, you remember? But then I went, but then I went the night after that to see him play the Grizzlies. But yeah, I wasn't mad that I didn't go to that Sixers game though, because they didn't have anybody. Yeah, yeah. They didn't play any of their fucking good players. So um yeah, I wasn't too mad about that. But I mean, bro, we I know I didn't really write anything down about the West, but we can kind of switch over to the West a little bit if you want and kind of give Give our takes on that a little bit. Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_04

Well, let's just okay, hold on. Or I think we can uh we'll just proceed. I mean, I I don't know. I think uh out of those scenes, I think Charlotte will get the seventh seed, and I believe God. I want to say Philly because of just you know, if they can see if you know uh the A seed. The six seed is pretty much that's that's kind of what Atlanta, like that's not no, no, the sixth seed is Toronto. Oh, so my bad, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So who's so look at the players? Just look at the record. So you got Toronto at 44 and 35. Okay. And so they're only so Philly's only one game off them.

SPEAKER_04

That's right. So who's it? Who's it?

SPEAKER_01

It's uh Miami and who else in the Miami's in 10. I didn't write them down. Okay, okay. Miami's in 10 because they're probably just gonna stay there. Nobody can take over them.

SPEAKER_04

I think that uh I'm gonna go Philly getting a sixth seed. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I'm gonna go with that. Um then I think as far as the seventh seed, I'm gonna go Charlotte.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think they'll You think they're gonna get to or so they so so so they're two games off on the loss comp against Toronto.

SPEAKER_04

I think they're about to play in the play in. Right? So they so if they drop it, so if Toronto drops to the if they get the six, they get the seventh seed. So then that means the seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth would be playing for the seventh and eighth seed. So that's what I'm saying. That's why I think Philly's gonna get the sixth seed, so they're gonna avoid the play-in tournament. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So then I feel like it's Charlotte and Miami out of those six. So so you think Orlando and Miami are gonna play each other in the 9-10 matchup in Toronto and um or you think I think uh Yeah, because I think Charlotte could potentially pass Orlando and get um and get the eight spot, and then Toronto drops down to the seven, so seven, eight, and then nine is Orlando.

SPEAKER_04

I think I don't I think Charlotte may lose. They already lost nine, right? So you stretched.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, they're playing Boston again.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so I think I think they're gonna lose all three of these. I I don't maybe not Detroit, depending on they may be Detroit, but if we've seen Detroit without any of their starters, they played good. So um they may go 0-3, right? So I think they'll probably get the nine seed going in.

SPEAKER_01

They bro, I mean they beat Boston once this year already, and they I think I want to say I want to say they play him again in Charlotte because they just played him in Boston.

SPEAKER_04

So I'll go I'll go one and two. One and two, right?

SPEAKER_01

And I think one and two in Orlando. Even if Charlotte has to, even if they get that nine seed play in Miami for the 10, they beat Miami. Yeah, so they play the loser, Toronto, Atlanta, or Toronto, Orlando. Yes. I mean, I mean, who do you think wins that Toronto Orlando game?

SPEAKER_04

I got Toronto.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, probably Toronto play game. I think Charlotte over Orlando, though.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I think Charlotte will beat Orlando. Yep. I think they'll beat Orlando and then they'll play the Pistons. Right, yeah. Or they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or no, they it'd be Toronto. Toronto would be the seven. Well, that's what I'm saying. I think Charlotte's gonna get the seven seed because they're gonna play.

SPEAKER_01

If Charlotte beats No, no, no, because if Orlando beats so so that's the first game, right? Toronto beats Orlando, they get the or they get the seven seed, they get the seven seed off of.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_01

And then the loser of that game plays for the eight seed.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yep, yep, yep, okay. So I think I think Charlotte gets eight. I think plays seven.

SPEAKER_01

And plays Boston. And then who you said Philly gets six, plays either New York or Cleveland. Cleveland. And then Atlanta fifth seed, they'll say Atlanta plays either New York or Cleveland, too. Yeah. So yeah, that's I mean, that's solid. I mean, dude, that fucking whoever Atlanta has to play, whether it's New York or Cleveland, that'll be that'll be a marquee matchup first round, no cap, because either of those could definitely go either way. Atlanta could be Atlanta could beat New York or Cleveland. Or I mean it could go the other way too, but I'd it's definitely or or Atlanta is definitely gonna be uh Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are gonna be picking them to upset New York or Cleveland for sure, I think. Just just because how hot just because of how hot they've been the last since All-Star Break. They got a best record and I think all-star break. Yeah, I mean, they got a solid team too, so I don't know. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a good be a good end to this Eastern Conference, but I know we don't got I know we don't got as much time to wrap up the Eastern or the Western Conference, but over here and just Yeah, I mean it's already it's already pretty set for the most part over there. Um like just who's gonna play who in the players it makes it a little bit easier to just kind of wrap it up. Um so God, and they had the Warriors on TV again last night.

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Bro.

SPEAKER_04

Man, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I mean there could be a little bit of movement between Houston, LA, and Denver, but probably not. 11 and a half is a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04

The worst that LA can finish is the 50th. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but so Phoenix is probably gonna, or so let me see. Let me see the end of Portland and LA schedule. Uh so the Clippers are also gonna get a win tonight. Um, so they'll go a game and a half over Portland. Um then Portland, or so LA also, or so LA plays OKC and Trailblazers play Spurs, so they're probably both gonna lose that. I mean, I don't I don't see either of them beating either either of those teams. Trailblazers clippers, they play each other. Yeah, so so that's so that's actually a huge game. Um because if Trailblazers can win that, then they could potentially get that um that seven spot or no, the eight spot, and not have to play the Warriors. Because, dude, I'm not gonna lie, bro. I wouldn't want to have to play if I was Portland's, I would not want to have to play fucking Steph. Hell no, bro. Steph's I'm not nah, bro. I'm I'm telling you, bro. Do you see step? You saw Steph in the first game. Get him back to the play. Give him Portland in the play, give him Portland in the play-in. Steph's gonna win, bro. Nah, bro. Golden St. Golden State would win. And then they'd play the loser of Phoenix LA. Yeah, they might.

SPEAKER_04

They're only two since he came back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

He won. Who did they play tonight? They didn't play tonight.

SPEAKER_02

Or did they play two?

SPEAKER_01

Against the Rockets?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they lost to the Rockets.

SPEAKER_01

That was the first night he was bad.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he lost to him.

SPEAKER_02

It was a close game, though, and he dropped like he dropped like 29. He played, he played, they lost by one, bro. They lost by one. Lost. Bro, come on, bro. He dropped he dropped 29 off the bench in his first game back, bro. That's so no, like, bro, if they're playing the Trailblazers in the first round or in the playing, nah, bro. Golden State's gonna win that, bro. I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry to say it, but I'm going with Steph. I'm going with Steph.

SPEAKER_04

He will. He will got nobody to back him up. You counting on pods? So you counting on pods and Moody? Chris tops, Draymond. Drake only say Draymond, bro. Get the fuck out of here. This nigga said Draymond.

SPEAKER_02

He plays gonna get you seven points. You know I don't fuck with that's exactly what he got last night. That's actually crazy. He's gonna get you seven points.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, dude. I mean, bro, you know, you don't know, you know I don't fuck with Draymond's fucking style. You know I don't fuck with the game the way you know I don't fuck with the way he plays.

SPEAKER_02

But just I mean, bro, they still got they still got Kerr. I mean, yeah, Danny might, bro. He might he might get off. No. I agree. I mean, okay, so I mean, maybe, maybe Golden State. They barely lost to Denver yesterday. Okay, so you you can take Portland. I'm taking I'm taking I'm taking Golden State. All right. So then who do you who are you are you taking LA over Phoenix?

SPEAKER_04

Man, Drew and boy, Scoot Henderson and Plants, bro. You bro, I'm telling you, Portland. Portland's not bad. They not bad, bro. Drew Holiday over there, they got experience. All right, Donovan Cleveland ain't bad either. They got a big thing. LA LA or Phoenix. LA or Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03

They won't, bro.

SPEAKER_04

If Curry is on the floor, bro, come on, he's broke. He's 37, bro. He ain't that guy. He's not, bro. This is three, four years ago. That's yes, bro, but he's not. Eventually that shit gotta run out. It's gonna run out, bro. He's still he might get hurt. He might not be finishing.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, hey, bro, we bro, we don't got a ton of time left, bro. So we gotta rack up.

SPEAKER_04

You don't even know why you brought up golden state. You know I'm gonna go in. Man, bro. I was waiting for that. Okay, it's Phoenix on TV.

SPEAKER_02

Phoenix or LA, bro. Who you got going to who you got the seventh seed?

SPEAKER_01

So they're probably gonna so Phoenix. Phoenix, yeah. You got Phoenix winning that. So Phoenix is playing San Antonio. And then sweep. So if you so if you're so if you're saying Portland's beats Golden State, then Portland, LA to get the eight to get the eighth seed. Kawhi Kawhi will have a Kawhi game.

SPEAKER_04

So Kawhi. You know what? Fuck, that's tough, bro. Cause like that clip return.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, an OKC in Portland game would be so weird.

SPEAKER_04

Garland could get off him. Benedict Matherin, Collins, Kawhi could easily drop 30, 40. It's tough against the field. I mean, it depends on the city. Bro, you think you don't think they beat Phoenix? They could, but Phoenix is playing straight right now. They got Dylan Brooks back, D. Book playing good. Uh Grayson Allen on an off chance might drop 20 for you. Um I mean they they beating the Rockets right now. So they're beating a pretty decent team. I, you know, I don't that game is tough. Guess I'm gonna I might maintain my pick and go clippers. Just because I I fuck with Kawhi and I know uh what Kawhi is like when it's time to go, when it's money time. Yeah, I know. That's what I expected from the beginning, to be honest with you. With nobody out there, we don't got nobody. Nobody playing.

SPEAKER_01

40 ball is crazy, though.

SPEAKER_04

But uh, yeah, man. Um4K. So no, yeah, so I got yeah, so then I got uh I got Phoenix beating Portland.

SPEAKER_01

So then we got OKC and San Antonio. I think so then we got an OKC LA first round, or you said Portland?

SPEAKER_04

Clippers in San Antonio will be set with it. Okay, I think they're gonna get set with that change.

SPEAKER_01

And then so Phoenix, Portland.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Phoenix.

SPEAKER_01

So Phoenix, OKC first round. Uh Denver, Minnesota. Oh, yeah. Fuck with that for sure, bro. That'll be a great first round matchup. Dude, I mean who do you who do you got in that one, bro? Just looking ahead a little bit, because I mean, unless unless Denver falls out of that three spot. And I'll say this. Unless they fall out of that three spot, they're definitely playing Minnesota first round. Den Denver, Minnesota. Well, uh they played each other like the last fucking three playoffs, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Clippers, um, San Antonio game. Um I know San Antonio would probably be a heavy favorite, but one thing to look out for is that yes, San Antonio is 3-0 against the Clippers this year, but every game except for one have been close. So they won by four the first time, one by four the second time, and then one by nineteen, but the third time Hawaii didn't play. So I just wanted to throw that out there that you mean you know, when you're that close to a team, all it takes is a couple steals, a couple whatever missed shots, and you can win the game. So uh the Clippers have played San Antonio pretty well this year. They got demolished by OKC both times they played, but uh so I'm just you know just stating that fact that you know I think that series may be a little bit closer um than what everybody may think with San Antonio and the Clippers.

SPEAKER_01

What the book said.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, I mean but uh yeah I got I got Denver winning against fucking Timberwolves against Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just the way the Minnesota's been playing. Yeah, I don't know. It's tough.

SPEAKER_04

I think they should ever traded Thomas, in my opinion. I don't I don't I don't think that Randall is better than Thomas. I think Thomas is better. I think Minnesota should have kept Thomas, in my opinion. Uh New York has been better. Um New York has been better since they've got rid of since that switch. I feel like uh New York has won that trade.

SPEAKER_01

Um I I didn't agree with it when they first did it did it, but it's tough, bro, because I like I don't feel like I don't feel like cat like he's a better, he's more efficient scoring when Julius went to um Minnesota though, they were they went they went to the they they went to Western Conference Finals last year with Julius though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, bro, but that's because Curry and Jimmy Butler got hurt in that series. If Curry and Butler both played it, they were up when they got hurt. You had no Curry, no Jimmy Butler. This it's a rap. You count on Buddy Hill and Draymond Green, and they gonna get it done. They didn't play that great. And then they got they got fucking, you know what I'm saying? Denver played OKC in the second round, and that went to seven. So that was really the Western conference finals. That one that was a hell of a series. Yeah. Hell, even the Clippers in fucking Denver, that went to six, but every game came down to the last fucking minute. Yeah. I mean, Minnesota, so they had an easy like that Golden State. I mean, go the fact that Golden State, even with Butler, the fact that giving me that they was that made it to the second round, I just give me kind of surprised me.

SPEAKER_02

But that's who did Minnesota beat first round. Do you remember?

SPEAKER_04

Uh Lakers. Okay. They beat them 4-2. Yeah. And the Lakers didn't have a center. And now it's gonna be Luke's for Lucas first fucking there in LA. Luka or Luka was he there?

SPEAKER_00

He was there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

They had it, yeah. LA actually started off, I think, 2-0. Um, but no, yeah. Uh so I just think Minnesota just and then also cat or not cat, but man, like they he kind of tends to shoot them out of games a lot, man. Like you look at his batch, but he puts up jacking them bitches, bro. Like, he'd be shooting like 14, 15 fucking threes. Go six for 17 from three. And then 13 for 29 or 30 from rim. You know what I mean? Like with that athleticism, bro, I don't understand why you're gonna be able to get the you gotta get to the rim, bro.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta get to the rim, like he said.

SPEAKER_04

He fucks him up a lot of times in the playoffs. You know what I'm saying? Like, he that's I mean, he's a great talent, great player. You know what I'm saying? But I just think, yeah, I don't, yeah. I I I got I got them in that series.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably gonna be probably the most competitive first round of the series of maybe the whole playoffs, unless that Atlanta, like they like that four or five seed in the out in the Eastern Conference, Atlanta, whoever they have to play, whether it's New York and Cleveland. And then I mean, hell, even that. And then and then that, and then yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, if Philly's healthy, if they or if they get that 60, like I said, if Philly, they they remember they play out of New York or something.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, dude, I mean, even even L LA and Houston, bro, that's gonna be a that's gonna be a fire first round matchup for sure. Like hopefully, hopefully, hopefully Luca can come back. Yeah, that's tough, bro. But I mean, he's got like he's got two weeks. So hopeful, hopefully he can fucking hopefully he can come back.

SPEAKER_04

He flew off of Europe. Get that treatment. He's not playing, bro. He's trying to play. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like for sure. We may get AR or Luca. I think Houston, we can, we can kind of survive first couple games. You know what I'm saying? First two, three without Luca or without AR. But you got, but I don't know. I mean, like I said, Bron put the team on his back the other night. You know, Bron turned back to head at the time. He lost to the Patriots, but he is getting a fleet. They do. I mean, I suspect this Braun out there with fucking Roy Hooshi Mara. You know what I'm saying? Like that was the second best. Respect, Rui. Marcus Smart not even playing. Rui is starter? He ain't been off the bench. He ain't started in a while. For real? They've been having to come off the bench.

SPEAKER_02

Who was starting?

SPEAKER_04

Marcus Smart. So they have Reeves, Luke. Smart, Bron and A. Uh, and they've been winning. They're since I mean they've Smart hasn't been healthy for a minute, though. Uh it's been a couple weeks, a week and a half, yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

And even then, they they've been putting in La Ravy or Luke Kennard. Roy's been coming off the bench. That was the first time Roy started in a minute.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Was the night again the game against the Pacers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, shit, bro, these next few days, we're gonna see how these how these play-in spots wrap up. And we gonna, I mean, bro, next time we talk, we gonna I mean we're gonna know it's gonna be set.

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna know who's playing who's gonna be actually the first night of the play-in. Right. So we'll have that shit. You know what I'm saying, going.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, sir. Yep, we'll have a little game right here. Yes, sir. No, but it was fucking good good cast, boys.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, we'll fucking see you boys next week.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, see me up. Ready for the playoffs. Yes, sir.