Throttlecast: Episode 16

In this episode of Throttlecast, hosts Grant Van Brewer and Dave Codrea sit down with Derek Lee, the owner of Sector 32 Motorsports, a premier automotive performance and service shop in Alpharetta. Lee discusses his journey from being a master technician at McLaren dealerships in Tampa and Atlanta to launching his own business. He shares insights into his specialized training at the McLaren Technology Center in England, his experience building high-horsepower machines like Justin Norton’s 1,200hp McLaren 720S, and the challenges of transitioning from a technician to an entrepreneur.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:28

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SPEAKER_02 1:07

Alright, guys, welcome back to another episode of Throttlecast. I'm your host, Grant Van Brewer. This is Dave Codre. We're here at Ride Lounge and we've got our good friend Derek Lee from Sector 32 Motorsports. Welcome to the pod, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Thank you guys so much for having absolutely good to see you, man. And uh we've shared a passion for cars, I think, equally more than anybody, especially with the brand McLaren. Yeah, myself being the McLaren brand manager here in Atlanta for a number of years. You were the McLaren, I guess, master technician for lack of better terminology in Atlanta. And uh it didn't just start there. You were at McLaren, Tampa before then. And then I think we had kind of a mutual client, if you will, uh Ryan Howard from the Philadelphia Phillies. Yeah. He was moving up here kind of as I think as part of his retirement package, like he did a free agency or something like that, or a short stint with the Braves, and they did him right on that. We moved some cars up, which was great. So then we eventually sold him some cars, and you obviously serviced them. Yep. Um and then um you know, I want to kind of just dive right into McLaren for just a brief moment, then we'll get to your business and some of the other things too. Uh, you're one of the very few people that has been able to share the experience of going to Woking over in Surrey, England, and experiencing MTC, MPC, MSO, which you know, for those that don't know, it's McLaren Technology Center, McLaren Production Center, and McLaren Special Operations. And I gotta tell you, I didn't know that that was gonna be a bucket list item on my list, but it was one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had. Tell us about your experience uh with the brand doing that and just kind of before Sector 32 started, what did all that look like?

SPEAKER_03 2:49

Yeah, so it's exactly that, right? And it was um it was uh it was mind-blowing. I first off, being in a position anywhere for that fact of going to an automotive manufacturer and seeing what it really is behind the scenes, I don't think people can truly really grasp it until you're there, right? So, yeah, we got to see all of the behind-the-scenes stuff. I even got to see the GT department, which was super cool. Oh nice being a part of that. That was actually at the training facility. Um, but yeah, just the environment alone and kind of getting a lot of the uh the heritage for what the brand is, and you see a lot of stuff, and I mean, as you know, and being at MTC yourself, you go down the boulevard and you just see nothing but history. Um, and along the walk, as you travel through, you'll see there's like the paint division from MSO, you'll see um the motorsports division primarily for the F1. There's Heritage F1.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Yeah, all the trophies are the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

There's a whole yeah, so it's when you see that, it almost makes you like a loss for words. That's that's truly what it is. Because I I didn't even know what to really expect, and then when I got there, I didn't even know what to say. Yeah. Um, I had a really good buddy of mine who I met um along the way uh when I was down at McLaren of Tampa Bay, and him and I, we always stayed in touch and so on and so forth, and he was actually one of the ultimate series lead engineers. Wow. So my first chance of going to MTC, of course, I'm hitting him up, and I'm like, man, I can't wait to see you out here. This is gonna be super awesome. And I got the opportunity um to actually go to the production line itself, yeah, and go to the ultimate series line itself. Like down on the ground down on the ground and walking. Okay, so yeah, I was just on the balcony. You were on the balcony. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, trust me, I know exactly. So knowing because that was part of the class when you do welcome to McLaren and so on and so forth, especially being a technician.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

So the catwalk was like the thing. No, we got we got full deal. Yeah, so it was cool. My my class that I was with that got to be extended to them as well, and it was all of us on the ground, everybody. So, and at the time, my I actually had to bring my wife with me. So that was totally cool. Yeah, I brought my wife with me as well.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Well, she didn't go to McLaren, but we spent a couple days in London. No, I brought her with oh that's it. She was on the ground. She was on the ground too.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

So that was, I mean, an experience of a lifetime, right? For sure. The fact of just being at MTC is one thing, yeah. But then when you encompass all of it, right? I'm on the production floor and we walked all the way to the very end. I got to see the cars going into where it does all of the specific body checks. Like there's this robot that's just, you know, that was the only machine there.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

That was speaking of robots, actually filmed iRobot there. Did you know that? There's a couple sequences.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

And there's another movie. Do you know what that was?

SPEAKER_02 5:41

There is, yes.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

No, I can't I can't recall it right now, but I know it's you thought you were good with a Marvel movie.

SPEAKER_02 5:47

Oh, hit me.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

It was with the Avengers. They didn't. Oh, it was.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Was there because when you go there, it's just like crazy stuff. Holy crap. Like, and the way that the facility's designed, there's a lake in front of it. And so if you look from satellite view, it looks like a uh yin and yang. Like water and facility.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

You know what that water's purpose is.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

See, technician right here. Did you go through learning training? Because I did not really not.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

So the really cool thing about the lake is that they actually use the lake for cooling purposes for the wind tunnel.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Oh, that's right. Yep. I think I remember hearing that.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

They got the water in for that to help for cooling purposes.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

And then when you went into the the there's this meeting room in the middle where you get your introduction or whatever, and it's round. And I I guess I was at the very tail end of my group, and like um the door closes, the wall moves. Yeah. And I'm standing in the wall actually bumps me. And like that's how it closes. It's a it's it's like you're in a Marvel movie. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

So you I mean, with all that being said, I mean, I was I was blown away. I enjoyed so much of that and just really trying to be open and take it in, but then it was more, right? I'm in woking, so you kind of take in the cultural, the culture. There's all the people, they all live relatively close, right? So you kind of see these people who are building these cars and where they come from and and in the whole environment. So it was it was more than just being at McLaren. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was a deeper part of it.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

And you realize even though the facility is like grand and you know, you see a lot of action, like the company's relatively small. Like it is. It's almost like being in a small community where everybody knows everybody, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Um and you went to MSO, I'm sure. Yep. Yeah, which used to be up the street.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

That was pretty unique.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

So we got to see all the different buildings for the training facility itself that's actually off-site. But right behind where the training, well, actually in the same building, but behind where we were for training, there is the GT department. So you go over there and you get to hang out with the GT division. Yeah. And that was super cool to kind of see all the GT cars. You'll see the 760s or the 720s at the time, 570s, uh, 650s, things of that nature. Yeah. And they're all kind of just rolling on through. So then also we had marketing and press. So you got to see all the marketing cars, all the press cars. So again, that was super duper cool. Yeah. And I had visited um Woking three different times, and each time there was something else kind of going on. And one of the times I went, they just had started their new carbon like development. Oh, for the tubs. It was everything carbon. So it was an off-site facility, and we got to actually go out there and see that. Oh, cool. And that was super cool as well.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

You raced up the good wood too?

SPEAKER_03 8:30

No, I didn't get to go over there, unfortunately. Okay. That would have been super cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Did they let you drive them on the roads over there or anything? No. Okay. I think it was just uh welcome to McLaren training.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Yeah, the driving good wood stuff.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Yeah. You did the drive on it? Yeah. What did you drive when you did it? Uh 570S. Yeah, it's it's so funny because they're like, and this is the corner that Bruce McLaren lost his life, and then they're like, okay, all right, let's go drive. I'm like, oh, really? Just like that. Thanks.

unknown 8:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

All right, so uh you're at the McLaren dealership. Um you probably had this bug in your brain, I'm sure, at the time, getting close to the end. Tell us how that movement was or that moment where leaving the dealership felt inevitable, effectively.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Uh you know, for my it actually goes further back in time.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

Where I grew up and kind of like how my my life kind of was. I was always brought up around, you know, racing muscle cars, this and that there. My dad really pushed that on me when I was little, right? We were just talking about that prior to the podcast about our kids and so on and so forth. And um my dad, him and I, we would always go to like drag racing events. So racing was like, wow. But then it's like you gotta make the car go fast. So performance is now a part of this. So of course I've always been open to the performance side of things, and it's like, man, I you know, I'm at the dealership where you're kind of not allowed to really do that.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

So in one side of my brain, I'm like, I have this idea that I really want to do that, and I I have so many customers that are wanting to do this, and I'm like, I can't, I can't really do that. You're not allowed to. Um but then it got to the point where I was like, you know what, I I need to I need to make a a change maybe, and um on a personal note, I ended up getting put into a position um where it was just the right opportunity. So I ended up losing my father during COVID and stuff, and and I was like, God, I I was actually lost. I didn't know what to do. Um and it was crazy because even with that being said, I was just about to go to school for Konex egg training and go to Sweden for almost a month. So I was just talking to my father about doing that and all these things, and he was even like, Man, I want to go with you. Can we go to Sweden? Like, I want to go, like that'll be super cool. So all of these things were all in my mind, and I was super excited, and then I then I lost him.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

So I was like, God, what am I gonna do? Well, I have to follow through with the things that you know I need to do, but then after that I was I was still so lost. I didn't know what what direction to go. And uh and finally I was like, you know what? My dad and I always talked about having something of our own. If I'm gonna do it, I gotta do it right now. Yeah, yeah. I gotta do it. And I think that kind of brought me back to really realizing you know, you're lost right now, but you can be found. Absolutely. You have to have hope, you have to have belief, and and you'll you'll get there. So yeah, it's it's a scary thing. It really is. I mean, most people that start their business, you always look at like, can I do this even? Like, is this something that I'm even able to accomplish? And you make the risk, you know, you make the chance and you weigh the risk, and but at the same time you have confidence in yourself. Yeah. And I think that kind of I always kept that you know inside, and I was like, you know, my my father always said we'll do this one day, so here we are.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

That's a great driving factor. How long was it from uh you made that decision to doors are open?

SPEAKER_03 11:58

A little over a year. A little over a year. I mean, it was festering, obviously, but finally it was a little over a year before we pulled the trigger on it. Um but yeah. It was it was needed. And along that, you know, we ended up I ended up having my son at the same time, so it was like, all right, well, now I need to kind of plan this out a little bit. You know, I got this. That's a lot to take on. I'm like about to leave the the only thing I really know and to go into uncharted territories, and I got this guy here, and here we go.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

You just make a way, yeah. So it was it was probably even more of a driver for you at that point.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

It was, yeah, it was, you know, and there was a lot of driving factors, right? So that being another one that just you know it it made amo the most amount of sense and and it catapulted us pretty quickly. And I had a lot of great relationships that allowed for that to also be a thing. So absolutely, yeah. It was it was great.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

You were very hands-on with the clients that bought the cars from guys like me. Yeah, you know, they they they weren't done just at the sales desk, they weren't just driving off, like they wanted to meet the guy that was you know doing the diagnostics, you know, figuring everything out on the car if something came up. They wanted to have that conversation, have that relationship with them, right? And you were great at that. Right. Because a lot of techs, I mean, let's face it, they're just kind of in their own corner. They are they don't want to talk to anybody. Derek was the coolest tech on the planet, dude.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

I was like Brian yesterday talking about you're always selling something.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

You you are, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

So like the whole part of the value chain is customers and taking care of them.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

I would see Grant and he would immediately I'd be walking through and he'd be like, Derek, come here, come here, come here.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Oh, yeah, I'd introduce some people.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

And you would be surprised. There's more customers that you may not really believe that may like really want to be involved in that techie stuff, or maybe just want to learn.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

And sometimes you would meet somebody and it would just be a cool quick handshake. Yeah, cool, and that's it. But then you would meet this person who was like, Wow, like this is this is amazing. I want to know more.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

And and of course, with McLaren brand training, they they taught you that you know it was more of a techie person. It is so they almost enjoyed it, which I got reprimanded several times for bringing people back into the service department, but it does. It equated the sales. It does, it equated to sales, it does.

SPEAKER_03 14:06

And that that was how I looked at it. I was like, you know, if Grant's over here doing this, and then I see the people, I'm like, oh my god, this is a no-brainer. The showroom is cool, but like the the shop is where all the magic happened. You look at where you want to see what's going on. Yeah, trust me how to get in trouble, Derek. You're supposed to be working. Oh crap. Yeah, it's like I am. I gotta work this. I gotta I gotta let them see this. Like, look at this.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

So we're we're building relationships over here at a technical level.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

And and look, I mean, a lot of that stuff transferred once I left the dealership into doing what I was doing because a lot of those guys, again, some of them want to go fast. Yeah. So then they want to see what that takes, and they get a-by-shell McLaren that wants to go slow. Exactly. That's true. Well, the crazy thing is that you almost want to ask who wants to go faster than what the 720 is? Because that thing halts.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

I know that's right.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

But I will tell you, man, we've put together some things that'll blow your mind.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll certain we'll certainly get into that here in a little bit here. Uh so year one opening up an exotic car uh independent shop in Alpharetta. I mean, what did that actually look like? Once, you know, doors are open, ribbons cut, boom, ready to set go.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Yeah, so initially when we started it off, I mean, obviously you have to figure out how to do it. So initially, we kind of had like a little bit of a segue. Um, my brother is my business partner. Um, so it made more sense that obviously we need to be able to manage, you know, one side to another. Having both of us jump ship and do this is gonna be quite difficult, right? To be able to support both of us. So it made no sense for one of us to go and or both of us to go and we're both sitting here like, oh crap, or how are we gonna do this? So he actually left the dealership, which he worked at motor cars as well. He stepped away from the dealership first, and I was like, all right, look, in my spare time, I'll schedule the appointments and you'll have work. Don't worry. There will be something there somehow, somehow. And we just I mean, we spent days on end, weekends going out, finding people and trying to build these relationships. And luckily along the way, we ended up getting tied in with the daily driven exotic group. That was probably the largest injection of clientele that we had initially to start off with. So with that being said, we wanted to open something up to that, you know, group because they have this very awesome group of individuals that are there. So we said, look, if you're part of Daily Driven Exotics, then we're also gonna offer a package for you guys. You guys have a discounted rate at the door than anybody else coming off the street. So you're you're offering a service that falls in line with something that they may already have agreements with in their group. And a lot of people like that a lot, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Yeah, I was over there not too long ago and I saw uh Ty, I guess, who's the who's kind of the leader of everything. And he had his what was that, Napier Green? Yeah. No, that's that's pretty Ithaca. MSO 720S. Yeah. And you were doing like a CarPlay install on that, which by the way, I was just on the phone with a buddy of mine. He was like, Yeah, I don't want I don't know about a 12C. I was like, but my buddy Derek, he can fix that. Do that. Put car play right in there. Yes, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

So that right there was was a big injection, and um, and it allowed it to run for my brother for a while until I finally had to make the move where things were getting so big I had to make the transition. And at the same exact time, you want to still respect the dealership, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

My first even though I started a business, I I promised these guys to deliver, you know, they have an expectation I must deliver.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:25

So I still need to be there on time, and I still need to stay within my time, and I still need to provide the best service possible for the clients. Yeah. So I got to the point where I was like, I don't want to be you know cutting back on that for them. I need to make sure that the moment that I'm not able to provide that service to the highest ability, I need to make the I need to make the move. So slowly phasing out of the dealership, it got to the point where it was time. So it was scary, but it worked.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

Um how are we doing on time currently? 21 minutes.

unknown 18:11

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Hold on one second here. All right. Alright, so um, I remember when you hit a specific milestone, our mutual friend Justin Norton, yeah, 720S. And I remember seeing him and you online and maybe on the TV show a little bit. Uh you guys were part of the Netflix uh TV show Fastest Car. Yeah, and Derek was behind the scenes tuning this thing or whatever. I don't want to say too much, but um and you guys actually won it. Tell us what that experience was like.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

So actually, believe it or not, and everybody will think this, but dead serious, we actually did not tune that car for that show.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

You were just looking at proper setup, basically.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

We were looking at setup stuff, and there was a lot of things that I changed to be able to adapt to drag racing, because that's not a drag racing thing.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

It's really not.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Right. So there was some gray area that we were able to operate within to be able to make the car work better. So that was what we focused on. Once we won that show, Justin looked at me and said, I'm gonna have a target on my back. And I said, Yeah, you are. Like you just won the fastest car.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Think about that. And of course, the TV show comes with its perks, and then at the same time, it comes with the haters. So everybody's like, Oh, well, I can beat that, I can beat that. So he was like, Well, I'm not on the show no more. What can we do? And I started smiling. I was like, Well, let's let's play, let's tune, let's, let's start making some moves. So I came up with a couple of ideas. I had a buddy of mine that I was very close with back in Florida, um, got a um uh just an initial tune together to kind of Dane? No, not Dane. Okay, no. A buddy of mine, Justin, uh, he he is uh J2 performance. And um and I he actually worked with Rentec. So he actually knew uh a lot about the Bosch ECU unit that's in the McLaren. Okay. So I was like, hey man, is this something that we can work with? And he said, Yeah, yeah, let's let's play. So I was like, sweet, let's what can we do? Right. And we gave Justin kind of like the first dose, call it like a stage one and a half, if you will. And Justin was like, dude, this thing is crazy. This car is a good thing. Little did he know. This car is nuts, right? And I was like, Yeah, so then as time went on, we slowly started adding more and more as we started learning the platform more. And I had done some things prior to the 720, but when the 720 came out, it was kind of like a weird, its own beast, if you will, right? Yeah, and um there was a few other tuning companies who were really starting to get with it, and I was like, look, man, we might need to to reevaluate and maybe look and see what this next stage is if you want to go even faster. Because I don't know where you're wanting to go. What did you guys go with? Um so we ended up the next stage was going with M Engineering.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

M Engineering, yeah. Solid. I know it was them and what DME at the time.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Yep, DME, yep. Yep. Um, but we do a lot of work with M Engineering, love working with those guys. They do good Porsche stuff too. Oh, yeah, they do, definitely. So got to meet Mitch in person, who is the owner of M Engineering, and um got to meet some of his staff as well. And we were able to do another project prior to Justin's um and had some really good results. So, with that being said, it kind of made the gears in my head start rolling, and I looked at Justin and I said, dude, there's a lot more on the table here. So, and those cars that we were doing, we're making right at about 900 to the wheel.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

And you're not opening up the engine. Are you changing the turbos?

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Nope. 900 at the wheel. Nope. Stock fuel systems, we were making it work.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Handling it all.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

That's it. So then we started to realize okay, there are a few things that are going to need to be improved to be able to get us to the next step.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

And that's when you started realizing. Okay, the fuel system is definitely not up to par, right? There is the turbochargers, the cooling systems, and so on and so forth. So we were like, okay, we need to keep that in mind. What is next? And as time goes on, you're gonna start to see certain components fail that can't handle what you're doing. So you take note, okay, what is that? What is this? And then you start making the changes. Next thing you know, it's like okay, we're having big results, and this is getting good. So we got to the point where we got Justin's car making over a thousand horsepower, right? And we were like, hey, what's the uh what's the ceiling here? Yeah, you know, where where are we running out? What's the next? And then we started hearing, hey, you know, the internals are only gonna be able to handle so much. I mean, you're kind of getting there. And then the fuel system, you're maxed out. Okay, cool. Well, let's start upgrading that stuff. Yeah, what does that look like? So literally all it was was just piston and rod in the bottom end. So today, and over at Area 51, you've got an engine building program together, and this is actually something that we most recently done.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

And the factory block's good.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Yeah, factory block will hold up. Um, and then we actually took the 765 LT fuel system and integrated that so we have a dual pump system that'll be able to work. Nice, upgraded the injectors, um, and with that being said, we got Justin's car well up into the 1100s, 1200 range.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

And real quick, just for the record here, for the audience, for some of my friends, what is the relationship between, let's say, a Nissan GTR motor and a motor in a McLaren 720S? How much is the same? How much is different? Is there any relation whatsoever?

SPEAKER_03 23:36

So when you say GTR, there's nothing in that sense. Okay, right? There is a lot of stuff that is different.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

This is highly debated.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Right. Well, here's the funny part. Nissan does have a correlation to that motor that is in the McLaren. Which, if you go back and take a look, there was a Nissan racing car that was actually used. I want to say it was like the R390. Okay. Yep. Yep. Um that car had the it had the VK motor that was in it that it raced. It was like the VK, I want to say it was a it might have been a 45, possibly, maybe 40. I can't remember the displacement on it. But when that car stopped racing, McLaren went back and was trying to find a motor that they would put into their vehicles and found, hey, this motor is available. They went to a company called Ricardo and said, hey, how do we rework this to be able to be a engine that we provide?

SPEAKER_02 24:30

So it's more of a starting point. Correct. It's a rough draft, if you will. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

Now I can't personally tell you how much is utilized the same or not, and how much was changed with Ricardo, but that is, as far as I know, with the correlation to Nissan.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

It's kind of just taking like taking something to starting.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Some notes. Yeah. It would be like the same as uh I would say, based on what you said, kind of like how Corvette went to a flat plane crank, and everybody says, oh, it sounds like a four or five, eight. Mm-hmm. They probably did some homework.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

There is some yeah. Now I will tell you though, where the difference kind of gets brought up is where Chevy still is using a push route v8. Okay. Right? Yeah. Dual overhead cam versus that. Yeah. They will say there is some some differences, right? Right. So that's kind of the thing that that Chevy is still running on, which even to this day, I'm still like, wow, that's quite impressive. You guys are doing something that's been around forever. That's good. And it works. So hey, more power to you.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Uh getting onto another big build here. Um, I think I can say his name, John Horney. Uh 765 LT. He's highly known in the exotic car community. Great individual. Love that man. Dude, when I saw the YouTube video of that car putting down basically over a thousand horsepower, and then I called you up and I said, Hey man, just tell me the skinny, like, what's done to this thing? And you gave me this short list. I go, This is insane.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Yeah. So again, and it and it is just that, right? So we actually got right up towards the thousand mark and we kind of pulled him back, right? Because again, he's traveling into a lot of the unknowns, and we didn't want him to be a guinea pig of something that we still were in the process of learning.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

Uh so that car there was a big step for us to really push into the dual pump system, which is what's brought into the 765, and then running a lot of ethanol. We teamed up with Sunoko Race Fuels, who is a big um sponsor in our shop. And uh that fuel that they offer, which is the 85R, we actually put that blend in his car, and the car was literally making power with ease, safely, around like 960 to the wheel. And all we did was we upgraded the injectors to be able to flow the ethanol. The dual pumps from the factory were enough to support. Um we just did the downpipes, but left the actual titanium rear section alone, didn't touch it.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Those downpipes opened those cars up like crazy.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

And then we just did uh the uh turbo inlets, so allowing for nice even flow to come in for the turbocharger, and that was it.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

So M Engineering, they they put their heads together and they made a product that was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

How long was the car in the shop for? A day. A day. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

It's the opposite of just strapping on, bolting on, adding whatever you can parts to make it work.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

That's incredible. Now, granted, we had a little bit more time involved in the overall job when it came to the tuning part, but when it came to installing of the parts, it took us a nice solid day.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah. So you're working with McLaren. I mean, you can get these things up to huge horsepower without doing a ton of work to them.

SPEAKER_03 27:28

Yeah, I would say if you have a McLaren 720, let's use that as a perfect example. Yeah. 850 is a nice range. Yeah, you could stretch it and get to 900. But I would say 8 to 850 is a nice solid range.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Mike's car was like perfect. Yeah. The red one? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Yeah, that car. I mean, it was like right at 850. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Uh car that we sold. Um, and uh, that's the same same as John's, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:50

I mean, if you would never know that that car was making that power if you just seen it. Because it doesn't look like it at all. It sounds like it might have an exhaust. Cool story. Yeah. But it's a 765, it already looks crazy. That thing pulls up next to you and just takes off. It's a monster.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Such a sense of speed. Third gear, fourth gear is just wild. Yeah, he took the words out of my mouth. It's just wild. I mean, the inertia, the g force. Yeah. I mean, if you're a passenger, I mean you're just your feet fly up, you know. You really need to go for a ride in Justin's car. He he offered, I haven't been over there yet. I said I was gonna go there a couple weeks ago, and I was like, Yeah, I'll come by next week and I'll ride in it. I need to go by there. Just don't eat before you. Justin, I'm coming by. I'll see you in the next couple weeks.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

This one has the room. This one will tell. You know what's funny?

SPEAKER_03 28:35

Daddy, this one doesn't. So we'll go to caffeine and octane, and I'll bring my son, and he'll be showing people the car. Oh, that's like, ah, yeah, hello. Check it out. This one goes. This one vrooms. So it's it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

All right, real quick here, and then I'll let Dave get more into the entrepreneurial journey, the challenges, the wins, operations, all that good stuff. Right. Um, a story from the dealership uh years or shop floor that still gets told today.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

I've got one that I'll share here in a moment, but I don't know if I I need to share it, but I'll never forget it.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Ones that will be around goodness. Are you man? I would say on that in a way, in a way. Because I got so many things. I'm trying to find one that'll be like, wow. I would definitely say it would probably be the first time, I would say at least from myself, when I actually got to work directly on the Koenig Seg in the real world. There we go. Um, and I could even use that for the Ultimate Series cars. I would say, because each one of them has something so special. Yeah. Um the same exact feeling and experience when I worked on the P1 for the first time, when I worked on the Senna, the speed tail. All of those things kind of hold that one thing that is like, yeah, you can't even begin to quantify that feeling, that sensation, but just finally being in the real world, working and seeing it, and it's like, here you go.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

I'll try to for the audience. You know the scene in Gone in Sixty Seconds where Nicolas Cage is walking up to Eleanor and the music plays? Yes. That's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

It's exactly that. It's exactly so it's what it may not be one for like everybody in the surrounding area to necessarily understand, but it's more of like a personal thing. Personal thing, yeah, for sure. And it's and it's hard because, yeah, of course, there's other things I could say, yeah, but if you're wanting me to put it on like the highest shelf, right? That's it. It's just it's something about finally having that opportunity to worked all your life.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

Here you are, you're the guy. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

And these cars of Senna. And it's like, okay, now we're gonna. Oh, yeah, we and the thing is is when you're when you're going through training, it's different. I can go to training for a 570 or a 720 or what have you, but it's completely different because when you do a P1, you actually take a test. And if you don't pass, you don't you don't get your certification. Yeah, so you're in there and you're doing all these things, and when you pass, you're like, wow, I did it. Now I gotta go implement this in the real world. Yeah, you know. So at first, you're like, this is gonna be big. It's a multi-million dollar you know investment somebody has made. Yeah, you gotta be on your P's and Q's. So I think it's that first moment where you get that RO and you look at it, and you're just like, oh, this is this is I'll tell a story.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

It'll incriminate me a little bit, but that's okay. It's years past, we were we we were much younger, but I remember the first time we got a Cena. Yeah, and me and Blake hopped in a 720. You were taking it out on a uh service drive, you know, by yourself. Perfect conditions, right? We're in the 720. We're like, we're right on them, and we're just like, oh my gosh, this is so amazing. We get back, and I'm just like, Blake, look at the front bumper of this thing. Didn't realize it. It was peppered.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

I didn't even realize that this thing was kicking up so many rocks, and so those trofeoirs were so sticky, and they were just loving the fact of just seeing the thing on the road.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

We took an L for that one, but yeah, it was okay after that. Yeah, but it was that was a lesson learned. Don't make the same mistake twice, as they say. No. Um Dave, you want to you want to dive in a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 32:08

So I mean you so you start the business, yep. And your your brother's basically leading the charge, you're coming up, you're like, okay, now we're both in it full time. When how long did it take before you're like, okay, it's working versus this is you know what?

SPEAKER_03 32:22

It actually sounds crazy, but it actually happened immediately. It was As soon as you as soon as you quit and you were doing it for a while. It was actually, well, prior to that, and when my brother was there, because you got to remember, I was at the dealership, but I would leave. So my days were crazy, right? Yeah. I would get to the dealership, I was there between seven and eight o'clock. And I work all the way up until five, six o'clock. I would leave the dealership, I'd run over to the shop. I was working until 10, 11 o'clock at the shop. Then I go home, take a shower, eat some dinner, repeat, repeat. Yeah, and it was every day. So almost immediately we were seeing the return on all of the work, and it was paying off. And then, like I said, it just started getting so big that the jump had to be made.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Critical mass.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

Yeah, so it was almost immediately.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

That's cool. So you you've got your own business, and what's the what cost the most amount of money that you would have never expected on your own business?

SPEAKER_03 33:11

That's a good question. If we're saying just one single item, yeah, one single item. One single item would be investing of the tooling, right? So let's say the scanners, for instance. So one of the things that we wanted to really separate ourselves from any other shop was that we're using dealer-specific scanners.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Oh, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

So that's a major ticket. It's not just some secondhand whatever, right? We went out, we found these companies that are offering it or whatever have you. And these things are $20, $30, $40,000, $50,000 units. They're not cheap.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

So that's just to plug it in to see what's actually happening.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Exactly. But this is where it matters. Oh, yeah. We're not the same shop down the road that has their whatever space. Chinese. Right. We are the same exact thing that you get from the dealership. So we know the data that we're looking at when it comes to modifying your car prior to doing so is in line with factory specifications. And there's not something that this cheap scanner is missing, right? We want to know that we have all of the data is just like the manufacturer does. So it took a while, and we, you know, went, of course, through debt to be able to do it, right? Yeah. But it's it's worth it. It's so much worth it to be able to say, okay, look, this is brass tax. We know exactly what we're looking at, and there's no hidden just to simply do the job. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise, you're guessing, right? Yeah, there is certain things, right? Like with the McLaren, for instance. That's a hydraulic suspension that's on that car. You need to be able to depressurize that system and then be able to work on it safely. If not, you can mess up something like that.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

And it costs tens of thousands.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Very much so. There's nothing cheap. So it's like, hey, what do you want to do? Do you want to spend all the money for the scanner or do you want to spend all the money for the mistake you're about to do?

SPEAKER_02 34:54

That's true. Yeah, good point.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

And with the mistake you make, it's not a good not a good thing because it's gonna it's gonna travel. People are gonna know.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Which McLaren parts do they sell at advanced auto parts?

SPEAKER_03 35:04

I don't I don't want to tell you. As funny as it is, this ones are there. The the ignition coils. Oh yeah. It's out of a it's it's out of a very common vehicle. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put it out there. There you go. You have to do some hard research. There's not there normally, but again, here we go back with the Nissan stuff. But yeah, I mean some of the sensors you'd be surprised. There's a lot of stuff that crosses.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:25

Um some of the um uh the accelerometer sensors that are on each individual hub is a Mercedes-style design. Whether it's sold at at auto.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

And that's and that's pretty common among I mean plenty of manufacturers, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

I mean, there's you know, if you look at any of it has to make every single there'll be some little sensors that may cross over, right? Yeah, some of them are adjusted a little bit more, so you have to be very careful. If you don't know what you're doing, you can make a mistake.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

You know, so I mean you were trained through McLaren on all the all the factory sensors, so I guess keeping all that stuff and running your whole business on that makes most sense. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

So it we know exactly what to look for when we're doing whatever we're doing, right? Or if somebody came in trying to be the, oh hey, I found this part for this price and it was much cheaper. And now my car is messed up. Why? And I go in there and look. Well, as a matter of fact, that sensor is not within specs at all. So now we know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

What what's the most fun project you're doing on these cars now? Like general project that is. Is it is it tuning them more?

SPEAKER_03 36:25

Um or is it bolt-on stuff or so I'm uh I've actually really enjoyed um we do a lot of Lamborghini Audi stuff as well. Yep. So the twin turbo install upgrades I've I've really liked a lot because of where you start to where you finish is the window is so huge. The McLaren stuff has always been one of my favorites. Um so I would say probably between those two, but primarily the Lamborghini stuff has been a lot of fun. How many twin turbos have you done on that on those setups? Uh we've done five, four, five, six, somewhere in there, somewhere around there. Yeah. And I mean, they're all something special within them, and they're just a lot of fun. And then you'll set those up, you know, with a MoTEC unit, right? Yeah. And do like a standalone system and upgrade the fuel system, and and you'll go full tilt, right? And sometimes you'll get some of these guys that'll bring a twin turbo project and maybe didn't do certain things, so you get to go back and make the improvements, and then you get to see the true potential of what this car should have been from day one. So we've had a couple of those as well. So it's it's been it's been a lot of fun watching these cars get well into the thousand horsepowers and beyond, you know. Yeah. So it's it's really cool seeing that.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

What um I didn't have this in my notes, but this is a question that I got asked countless times, and I'm sure you still get asked this today. But for the average viewer, they've got the money, they're thinking about getting an exotic car, but they've heard all the things that you and I have both heard about McLaren. Of course, we know what the real story is. For that potential buyer of this vehicle, let's say a 720S, a 570S, a 650, whatever McLaren.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

Well, I heard they're unreliable. Like they're leaning with that mindset. What would you say to them?

SPEAKER_03 38:13

I would tell them this, and I actually say this actually quite frequently, and some people some people don't like it, some people like it. I don't care, I say it. When I was at the dealership, I always said I hated two cars, and that was the 650 and the 675 LT. People would say, Why do you hate that car? And I'm like, Well, I work at a McLaren dealership and I service these cars, and I don't see these damn things. They don't ever come in, they only come in for oil changes. So how am I supposed to make money on a car that's not messing? I'm not in the shop. It sucks. But guess what? It's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

They're pretty rock solid.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

They're pretty good. If you treat them right and you do maintenance and you do the servicing, and drive them, they do phenomenal. They're great. But man, it's those things don't freaking break.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

Yeah, they really don't.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

They're solid.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Yeah, I mean, I can't remember when the last time we had an engine replacement or a transmission replacement in a 650 or very rare. Especially a 675 LT.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

675s were I I've actually never replaced an engine in a 675 or transmission.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

I mean, we had one sitting in the dealership for a single one.

SPEAKER_03 39:21

Never.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

We had one sitting in the dealership for like two years. We we put a battery uh trickle charger on it, fired it up, drove it, no lights, no nothing. Which is so uncharacteristic. It was so uncharacteristic for any McLaren.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

I don't I mean, in the 12C they learned a lot about, right? You gotta think. McLaren took a crack at this automotive thing, real, for real, for real, with the 12C. Yeah, and there was a lot that comes with that. You're a racing company, right, that was built on motorsports and you're about to make like I don't really count the F1. I think there's a lot of collaboration. McLaren cars, yeah. Correct. But when you look at real production cars from McLaren that are mass produced, the 12C was the start of it, and it was a massive learning curve.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

They took a lot of shots in all sorts of directions, too.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

From just the design aspect to the to the name to the dealer allocation amount. I mean, it was tons of stuff that was crazy. But then you see this 650, and and actually it was the 12c spider. You started to see some some changes happening. You're kind of like, what's what's going on here? What's what's this about? Right? And it was a lot for a manufacturer to go from 12 into the end of 13, 14. Yeah. Like, wow, you guys are making a lot of changes. And then immediately here's 650.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

And yeah, all of the inheritance are the same. But when you pull everything back and you look, you're like, wow, you guys actually made some really a lot of changes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Like, and this is not just and they and they talk all in percents. Well, this is 30% lighter, this is 40% more downtime.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

That car is like they made some real improvements. Improvements, yeah. And I think they almost kind of got a little bit of ahead of themselves on making such great improvements and stuff to where the cars were solid.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

And I always say like the 675 was like the last Ron Dennis car. Yeah. And he was such a stickler about everything. Did you hear the story about the tile in uh MTC? Yep. One was off, so and he they couldn't replace it perfectly, so they made him they made him rip up all the tiles and replace them all. That's how anal he was about just every little thing.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Well, it was even further than that. The the bridge inside of the boulevard, they even couldn't they couldn't find anybody to construct it the way that they wanted, so they did it themselves.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

That's insane.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

They're like, we we have the idea, you guys put it together.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

None of you construction companies can figure this out. It's like, are you architects?

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Seriously? Yeah, we'll do it.

unknown 41:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

Uh Hore, what's our time frame? 45. Let's go into we'll go we'll go into the car and we'll go into rapid fire. You gonna do that? Cool.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Okay. Yeah. We got we gotta mention that he was the first one to pull it in correctly. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'll let you do that. You wanna you wanna kick us? Okay. So uh so the car behind us here, you we have to say you were the first person to ever actually drive the car in here and park it without having to do like 32 turns to to make it fit. So you gotta spot on perfectly. But you talk about this right here.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

It's it's funny that you say that because they would always have me at the dealership bringing the cars in and out of the building sometimes. I was and I was like, man, you guys trust me to do this? Squeeze through these doors? This is crazy. So I guess it pays off.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

And then when you're dealing with McLaren steering angles, which aren't the best, yeah. You kind of have to pre-think everything. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 42:30

Um so behind me here, this is actually um so something that we're doing with Sector 32. We actually started um adding a few more things to the to the lineup, which is the BMW products. Um and this is how we decided to launch it. So um I used to have a McLaren 12C that we did some stuff with, and that helped stimulate a lot of business um with the exotic stuff, but I started to realize I was like, people already know that we do the exotic stuff. So is that kind of smart, you know? And then it hit me, I was like, well, if we're trying to bring on a new brand and something that people don't know, then we need to show them what we can do. So we thought about it for a while and we knew that the BMW direction was what we were gonna do. We were kind of teetering between Audi and BMW. Um, so I said, hey, let's do the BMW. We, you know, it's it's a brand that's coming up a lot with these M cars. There's a lot of people out there that are doing a lot with them, and they're they're making a pretty big splash, and we know how to work on them. So I said, Hey, what do you think? Told my brother, I said, I'm on the hunt. M3, M4, what do you think? And then my wife was like, Hey, we got kids, you know, can you get the M3? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

This one has more seats than the 12 C does.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

Yeah, just now that you have, you know, kids exactly. Well, I I also have a Corvette too. My son loves riding in that thing, so that's like him and I's little getaway. You still have that? Yeah. Wow. You got a little C six, that thing is rowdy as can be, too. So that's him and I's little. There. S father son toys. That's cool. But when it's like family time, then then we we hop in that. So my daughter loves that one. My son loves that one. The wife loves that one. What have you done to it so far? So this one's lowered. Um EBC brake upgrade on it. The exhaust is actually stocked for right now because to be honest, I'm not a big fan of a lot of the exhaust notes that they have. So I'm a stickler to try to find the perfect exhaust note.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

There's an intake on it, ECU unlock, uh tune and everything. So it's pretty simple. But what I really wanted to focus on was the aesthetics. I really wanted the car to look good. So we did uh full carbon upgrade on the front end with the uh the front grille, the lower ducks, uh the side skirts, the front lip, the rear splitter, all of that stuff. That's great. And then uh the color as well. So went to ACW and I had gone to SEMA and seen you know a couple of different vehicles out there that I fell in love with, and there was a guy who was out there that had a Z4 or sorry, a Toyota Supra, so the MK5 with the Z4 front-end conversion on it.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

So you can only get the Z4 as a convertible. Oh, so he was like, hey, look, this is what it would have looked like if it was the coop. But it was that color. And as soon as I seen it, I was like, I need that color.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Dave and I both thought that it was paint. Like not even thought that it was a wrap at all.

SPEAKER_03 45:31

Everybody says it. And they always are like, oh, that's that such and such color. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

I thought it was San Marino blue.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Yeah. And then I opened up the door and I show them, I'm like, it's actually not.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

And they're like, oh, it's crazy because you cannot tell that it's a wrap at all.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

And so when I seen it at Cima for the color, I was like, under the lights. I was like, wow, this looks amazing. And then I seen like the little swatch of it and stuff in sunlight, and I was like, wow, it looks different. So then it really meant a lot because I was like, man, in certain lights, it stands out even more. So I was like, man, I I gotta get this going. So at first I was like, you know, do I want to put it on the McLaren or you know, do I want to wait? And then my brother and I decided to wait, and I was like, hey, got the BMW. Guess what color it's going? So that's awesome. It worked, and it has the Kayalami orange interior, so it kind of has a little bit of a look. Perfect. So my dad was a big Florida Gator fan, which I'm a Florida Seminole fan, so I'm gonna say it's kind of a Ryan Howard spec on there. Yeah, a little something in there. So at first I was like, you know, uh, don't like it, but for dad, I'll I'll let it do it. It's awesome. I'll let it ride. So it's it's pretty cool. I like it. That's cool. It's a fun ride.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

So all right, Derek, I'm gonna hit you with a little bit of rapid fire here. You ready? Let's do it. Best McLaren ever built, no debate.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

675 LT.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Agreed. Uh naturally aspirator or twin turbo forever.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Twin turbo forever.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Okay, I figured that was coming. Most underrated McLaren the market is sleeping on.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

The McLaren Elva.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

Really? Yes. I thought you were gonna say GT.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

No.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Uh the car in the shop right now you're most excited about.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

If you can say. I know a lot of these these builds are top secret.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

So I have we have this opportunity for this vehicle, uh, and I will say it because it is quite amazing. We have a 720 GT3 X. So most people don't know what that is, and that's what makes it super exciting. And we will be uh maintaining and supporting that vehicle for the near future. Really? Oh, cool. And we are super excited because we have a lot of really cool opportunities to come with that car, but it is just the most wild thing ever in my mind. And I'll go I'll oh, it's crazy. I'll elaborate after the rapid fire if you guys would like.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Dream three car personal garage, no restrictions.

SPEAKER_03 47:54

Oh okay. First car, no matter what. I was born on this car, raised with this car. It means everything to me, which is a Lamborghini Countash. Oh, cool. That is my if I could have one, that's it. Um I'm a big Toyota Supra fan. I have a Toyota Supra MK4. I've always loved that car. Toyota Supra forever. Two Jay-Z forever. Yeah. That's my that's my baby. No hate here. Um the third car. God, this is the one that gets so weird because I got so many that I would kind of throw in there, but if I could say because I just enjoy the car so much, and I said it before as well, I still gotta go with the 675 LT. I love it. If it put my twist on it, yeah, I gotta have that car. Something about that car, I love it. I do too. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

That's a good one. Uh, last one. Uh someone listening wants to bring the car in. What do you want them to know?

SPEAKER_03 48:56

I want them to know the possibilities of what it is that they're what they have underneath them. By that I mean if you're just coming in for general maintenance, I want you to be educated in your vehicle. And I want you to know why maintenance is so important. If you're coming in for performance, everybody has the cell phone now and they can look online and they just see this and they think that's all they need. But education is very important and to let them know before they make a multi-thousand dollar mistake, thinking that they know what they want because they've seen it online, educating them to let them know, hey, I get you seen this and it looks great, but you may really want this. Yeah, it really may fit who you are. Yeah. Um, and I promise we've had a lot of people hear that and they're like, You're right. Yeah. You know, so not to say I am always right. I don't ever want to be that type of guy, but it just so crazy how many people will come back and say, Yeah, no, I I definitely got super excited for this, and I I should have looked a little bit further and done a little bit more research.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Yeah. Anything you want to plug?

SPEAKER_03 50:06

Um, definitely would like to give a shout-out to my obvious, you know, direct individuals that I'm working with. So the guys over at Daily Driven Exotics for sure. Got to give a big shout out to everybody within that group. Everybody has been super amazing. And if you guys have listeners and stuff that are wanting to be a part of that group, I definitely recommend looking into those guys. They do a lot of really cool stuff when it comes to uh caffeine and octane, uh car rallies, things of that nature. Definitely recommend that. Um definitely, as you guys said yourself, you thought that was paint. Yeah. But it's a wrap. So if you guys are definitely looking to get your vehicles wrapped, ACW is has been my go-to since day one. So definitely recommend that as well. Um and uh Yeah, give us a shout. Go take a look at what we offer. I mean, a lot of the stuff speaks for itself.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

So where can they find you, Sector 32 Motorsports?

SPEAKER_03 50:57

32 Motorsports, yep. So we're actually doing reconstruction on our webpage currently, right now, so it's a little you know touch and go with that. But our Instagram page we do a lot of work with um and YouTube. We got some really cool videos on there if you guys want to take a look at that. Collab Garage. Collab Garage, yep, that's our sister company with us too. So there's a lot of really awesome stuff that those guys have going. And um, I'll definitely have to get Joe to come on up here and say with you guys.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

Because I mean you guys are 3D printing aeroparts in-house. Yeah, we do a lot of stuff, man.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

3D scanning 3D, the 3D scanning and printing cool stuff from it is amazing how quickly you can do it. And it's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 51:34

So Joe is he's diving into that, but his big thing that he is known for in the industry is his fabrication. But the guy just has this knack for understanding the things that most people don't even realize are even there. I mean, I truly believe he's an engineer without being an engineer. Mad scientist. He is the mad scientist. It's funny. I got him a lab coat that says mad scientists. He is that guy. So um, but yeah, definitely. And look at some of the stuff that Collab Garage does, Colab Carbon. Take a look at their website. Those guys got some really cool stuff, man. So definitely recommend that for sure.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

So awesome, man. Appreciate you guys tuning in, and uh, we'll catch you on the next one. Derek, thanks for coming by, brother. Thank you guys for having me.