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<v SPEAKER_00>Here we are once again together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are three things in particular that I would like to focus on for this session.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Last time we talked about how, after Constantine came to power, a lot of stuff changed for the better and for the worse in the Christian church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The bulk of Christianity was spread across the Mediterranean world and to the east along the Silk Road.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What happened when Constantine came to power is that he moved the capital city from Rome to Constantinople, his new city, named after himself, and that left a vacuum in the old Rome.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That becomes part of what we'll talk about today because as the government left the city, the church became the new government and it patterned itself significantly after what the Roman government had been about, including adopting many of the names of the structures, many of the titles of the offices, many of the expressions of even dress and public demeanor that were part of the old Roman Empire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This will become a challenging point along the way because increasingly the Church of Europe will adapt itself to the identity and ideas of the Roman Empire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And part of the great reformation that we experience in the 16th and 17th centuries is a pushback against the church becoming a social institution and an institution of power and direction over society.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We know that Jesus is King of kings and Lord of Lords, but what's the nature of that relationship between Jesus' global kingdom and the kingdoms and the principalities that we set up in our various countries around the world?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So that will be one thing that we'll look at again today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The second thing that I want to focus on is the rise of Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was a major event affecting Christianity deeply.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Islam is the only truly successful post-Christian religion in the world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are a good number of religions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are many similarities between the various religions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of them are more philosophical.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, uh, within China and Japan and other places in Asia, there's a question whether some of these so-called religions are actually philosophies of life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that is still an ongoing discussion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But with regard to monotheistic religions, there are only three major monotheistic religions, and that's Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, each of which claims a bit of succession to it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, Christianity and Islam do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Christianity understands Judaism to emerge from the Old Testament religion of Israel, uh, recognizing the creator God, but that now the added dimension is the coming of Jesus, the Messiah, who was forecast and foretold by the prophets of Israel's religion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Islam considers itself to be a successor to both uh Judaism and Christianity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in that light it talks about the greatness of Moses and the greatness of Jesus in a particular way, and then the greatness overall of Muhammad.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we'll look at Islam today as a successor.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The third thing that I want to address today is the Crusades, because the Crusades become the visible antagonism between Christianity and Islam, which has shaped much of even our modern world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's important for us to understand what it was that triggered these things and why the tensions grew and what were the outcomes of those kinds of things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As we go back to that first theme, what was taking place, particularly in Europe and in the remnant of the old Roman Empire, particularly its Western expressions, was a tension between church and state.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's clear that Jesus said, My kingdom is not of this world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's clear that Jesus talked about God being the God over all nations and that no one nation was the true nation or one people was the true people, even though God had used ancient Israel and the Jews that were the remnant of ancient Israel as the vehicle by which God communicated to the nations, God made it very clear to Abraham back in Genesis 12: Through you I'm going to bless all the nations of the earth, because all of the nations, all of the peoples on earth are the children of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are all made in the image of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the way in which God invested in Israel was more of a missional technique.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Since I can't talk directly to everyone, I will establish a uniquely trained people and I will plant them on the one place where all of the other peoples, all of my other children, will come by and they'll see what's going on and they'll ask questions and they'll say, How do we find the creator once again?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So although Israel had a unique place in God's missional plan, it did not have a privileged place in the hierarchy of the nations.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What happens over time, particularly as Christianity becomes strong within the Roman Empire, is that it begins to take on a characteristic in the sense of saying, we are better than you are.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are more noble or closer to God or have more of God's favor on us, and therefore we have a possibility or a privilege or even a right to ignore or destroy or overpower you because we are with God and you are not with our God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that becomes a major issue in the crusades and lingering into the present.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The rise of a church and state negotiations, there are three persons in particular.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Obviously, we're jumping over a lot of history and a lot of time, but three persons in particular you might want to keep your eye on and you might want to go back and think about them again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And they are Gregory and Charles and Gregory.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So if you think about those three people, Gregory and Charles and Gregory, they're called Gregory the Great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was a leader of the church out of Rome.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He became known as Gregory the Great, the Pope of Rome.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then Charles has several names throughout history.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's called Charles the Great, but he's also become known to us in other ways as Charlemagne.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's really Charles Magnus, the great Charles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Charles the Great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then we have the other Gregory, who started his life as archdeacon Hildebrand, but had a showdown with one of the kings of the Holy Roman Empire, Henry IV, and brought Henry IV to subjection, again showing the power of the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Gregory the Great, the first one, is in the 6th century.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's the 500s.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's at the time after, say, Augustine, when the entire Roman government has been shifted to Constantinople.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there are Huns and Vandals and Goths and Visigoths entering into northern Europe and coming down into Italy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the Roman government wasn't doing anything about them because the Roman government was busy with other things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Roman government was actually feeling the shrinkage.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was losing its capacity to rule the Mediterranean world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in that place, Gregory the Great basically established a great nation that was essentially the old Western Roman Empire and became sort of the first leader of this thing that would become what we call the Holy Roman Empire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He withstood the invasions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He provided even for the conversion of some of those who came.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was part of the start of Christianizing Europe because all those who seemed to attack the Holy Roman Empire or the Western Roman Empire, he was such a powerful influence that they eventually became part of this very enterprise.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's why many of the northern European areas, countries, peoples, nations have emerged as part of the Christianized world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Not only that, but he continued the structures of the Roman Empire in such a way that it provided the church the opportunity to actually rule over this vast domain.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it did so from a centralized location.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What had been the Western Roman Republic, the Western Empire now became essentially the Christian church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And instead of there being an emperor, it was the bishop of Rome who was increasingly the papa or the pope over that domain.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And with that, you needed to collect taxes, and with that, you needed to appoint people who were administrative rulers, and with that, you needed to have armies that would ensure that there was safety on the roads and tranquility and all of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Gregory the Great was the one who kind of promoted that identity for the Western Christian Church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was followed a couple of centuries later in the eighth century by Charlemagne.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Charlemagne, Charles the Great, became one of the leading uh powerhouses within the rather splintered territories of the old Roman Empire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was the days of feudalism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, we don't think about feudalism so much, at least in North America, although there are times in which our nations seem to be splintering again into little groupings here or there in the next place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But we have to think of a world before there's modern telecommunications, before there's modern travel.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In those days, everybody walked or at best rode a horse or a donkey.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You didn't travel far.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You may never get more than 20, 30 miles away from the place you were born.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's no rapid communication.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You may raft down a river or something like that, but there's very little movement.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so all of the little pieces of property are owned by someone.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the thing that people are trying to get is to own more property, but it could be a patchwork quilt of it, not all right together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you need someone on each of those pieces of property to sort of look after the crops and the animals.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it becomes a hierarchy of who's got land and which territories are yours.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We call that feudalism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And within that, Charles the Great amassed one of the greatest powerhouses of leadership.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By 800, by Christmas of 800, Charles the Great had become the recognized largest leader in Central and Northern and Western Europe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was actually anointed by the Pope of Rome to be the Holy Roman Emperor.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so here we have the dominance of the church over the state.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The church acknowledges his rightful rule and puts him in that office, but he becomes the one who rules over the church, even as the church continues to have much power.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That tension would continue, particularly as Europe went through another period of weather change.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There was a rapid change so that there's kind of a modern ice age, and the crops failed, and the population went down, and the bubonic plague came through.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And after that, with a decimated population, the state, Charlemagne's great Holy Roman Empire, seemed to lose its punch and its potential once again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And into that vacuum, once again, the church rose to prominence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And here's where we have the second Gregory.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is the archdeacon Hildebrand, and he is in contention with Henry IV, who's the Holy Roman Emperor, and there's a standoff as to which of them will become the servant of the other.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And by withholding the sacraments, eventually the king bows to Hildebrand, who then claims himself to be Gregory once again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we have this back and forth tug.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What happens in all of this is that it becomes a powerful struggle of who owns more property, who can wield social influence over people, who has the right to declare laws, who has the biggest armies.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The church had great armies then, too.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so it was really a tension of powers like any major tension of powers that our world has gone through.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The nations within Africa, the nations within Asia, the nations within Europe, the fights that have taken place in North and Central and South America, all of these attempts to dominate one another for power, all of that was present in Europe and was part of identifying the church's self-perceived rule over others.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, in the context of that, something new developed, and that was the rise of Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Muhammad was born into a modest family in Mecca, in what's now Saudi Arabia, and it was a modestly populated region.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was himself kind of an ordinary person, except that he did have epilepsy or something similar to that, which caused him to have seizures now and again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>His father died before he was born.

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<v SPEAKER_00>His mother died when he was just a young boy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was taken under the care of his grandfather until his grandfather died, and then under the care of an uncle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Along the way, Muhammad was someone who didn't show any particular special prominence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But he was used by his grandfather and his uncle to manage some caravans of camels, particularly one which was a long string of camels that went all the way to Syria and was a rather major deal.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he succeeded well at that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was recognized by others as giving good leadership to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that placed him into the graces of a woman who was a distant cousin, and she thought he should look after her camels and his her trade.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And eventually they got married.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was one of the most interesting things, a distant cousin of his or aunt that he married.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But in his travels, he was able to go through the Middle East and see the Jews as they operated in a world after they had been decimated by the Romans.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was able to see the Christians as they were engaged in kind of a tug of war East and West.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he began to think that both of these religions, which believed in one true God, were in fact the best of all religions, but they just didn't get it straight what that religion was all about.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's a sense in which the Quran and the teachings of Islam are actually kind of a pared-down Judaism and Christianity that just gets to the root of power structures and behaviors, minimal behaviors, but very necessarily practiced, even more so than the multiplicity of things that Judaism had in terms of its feasts and festivals.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There is for Islam a very limited and focused scope.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in terms of Christianity, there were all of the arguments about the nature of Jesus and what God was like.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If there was one God, why did we start speaking of three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in Muhammad's mind, there was a sense of these things are way too complicated.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, Muhammad himself could not read.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he didn't get his information from any books or sources, including any of the writings of the Old Testament or any of the writings of the New Testament.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was all based on what he heard and overheard from others.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when he was about 40, he began to have visions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And these visions, there are different ways in which they're explained.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Could it be encounters with God?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Could it be fits of epilepsy?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Could it be what was in the air in some of the caves that he certainly liked to spend time in?

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<v SPEAKER_00>In any case, he began to have visions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in some of the initial visions, he imagined that he saw the angel Gabriel.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the angel Gabriel was vast, as big as the heavens itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the angel Gabriel came to Muhammad and began to speak to him and tell him that he had to do these things and had to know these things and had to write down these things, had to read these things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He even brought him uh manuscripts to read, according to all of the teachings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Muhammad uh rebelled against that or pushed back against that because Muhammad kept saying, But I don't read, but I don't read, but I don't read.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And according to the stories, the angel Gabriel shook him by, took him by the neck and squeezed him till the breath was gone, and he had some ecstatic visions, almost killed him, but then released him and said, You gotta read.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Muhammad said, I can't read.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that happened several times over until in the stories, this is the origins of Islam, the angel said, Okay, then I will kind of take over your mind and I will speak through you, and you arrange for people to come and take down these words.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this becomes a way in which Islam is very connected to the spoken word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is why in countries which are dominated by Islam, we have the minarets, the towers, and the calls to prayer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A lot of it is oral, it's uh audible, it's out there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>While the Quran is there, it can only truly be read and understood in the Arabic language because that was the language of the time and the language through which Gabriel and God himself, Allah, spoke.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it's very much tied to a particular language and to the vocalization of that language.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this has influenced even the way in which uh Christians in particular have looked at the Bible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Until the time of Muhammad, it was seen to be a sort of record of the things that God had done, along with specific teachings that came through certain prophets.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the Quran began to talk about the word of God as something that is absolute and unchangeable and dictated in certain words, and that perspective on what divine teaching is began to filter back over time into Christianity and change the nature of the way that Christians began to think, many of them, about how we understand and use and experience God through the scriptures.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What took place over time is a struggle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Most of the Arabs at that time were polytheists.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They believed in many gods.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was not unusual, local gods, family gods, whatever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Mecca, there was a shrine, the Kaba, and it had four walls, and in it were sort of the displays or the representations of the variety of gods it did.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Not have a roof.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're in a very arid country and it didn't have a roof, but there was some discussion about needing to put a roof on top of this to make it a full building.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Muhammad took the lead and basically tore the thing apart so that it could be rebuilt.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And by the time they had it rebuilt, Muhammad was seen as the great leader, and he was talking about there being one God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the Kaaba no longer had the shrines and images of the other gods and became the center of the worship of the one true God, Allah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, there was tension within Mecca, and for a time Muhammad was forced to leave to go to Medina.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He would organize society there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He would talk about Allah and the one true God and how both the Jews and the Christians had gotten a start on all of this, but that they had become sidelined along the way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he had received the visions of the proper way in which to understand the one true God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was the one who was mandated to be the greatest of all of the prophets, to bring all of the peoples of monotheism together again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the design was to bring all Jews and Christians into Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That led to the return of Muhammad eventually to Mecca, the great return.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Shortly before his death, his death becomes celebrated as the start of Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when he came in triumph back to Mecca with the Kaaba, this became the center of what Islam is all about.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the growing strength of the reorganized Arab peoples began to spill over, and the simplicity of Muhammad's thoughts with regard to God and religion and all of that began to take hold very fast and very effectively.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The rise of Islam becomes the major threat to Christianity because Christianity had become so aligned with the old Roman Empire that it had become essentially kind of a nationality in itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And here was a new forming, burgeoning, growing nationality over against what Christianity had been, particularly because there was a self-perception within Muhammad's mind, then filtered into Islam, that you are good people, but we have the insights and the true knowledge which supersedes that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Islam became a post-Christian religion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now Islam spread very rapidly, and virtually the entire Eastern Church was out or just simply disappeared under the onslaught of the rapidly expanding Arab Muslim world.

00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:52.320
<v SPEAKER_00>It went into all of the Silk Road area, into even what's now Western China, where we still have Muslim groups in Western China that the official Chinese government is trying to get rid of and persecute.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There was a way in which there was so much commonality between Islam and Christianity that for many people it was just a matter of who was in charge and how we would follow the leader and how we would take even the symbols of Christianity and uh dress them in different colors or in different patterns and then use them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You see this in the great Hagia Sophia, the great church in Constantinople, which was built as the largest freestanding structure in the world in its time and still is an awesome site, but it went from being a church to a mosque to a museum and now back to a mosque again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And many of the early mosques of Islam were actually the takeover of Christian buildings.

00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:48.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And the Christian buildings were at times the takeover of Jewish synagogues.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So this is just something that kind of evolved over time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Muslims did not actually add a lot of architectural structures that were not there prior, except for the minarets, the towers that allowed for a public call to prayer seven times a day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Islam itself eventually took on a characteristic of having five major aspects to it, the five pillars of Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it is not highly theological, but it is extremely practice-oriented.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you have the five pillars, the testimony that there is one God, Allah, and no other gods beside him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there's a sense within Islam over the years that that is the new manifestation of the name of the God Yahweh of Israelite religion, the God of the Father of Christianity, the creator God, that that's all wrapped in the same one.

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<v SPEAKER_00>To this date, there are debates among all three religions as to whether we're talking about the same God or we're talking about different gods.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that continues to this day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The second pillar was that of prayers, seven times a day or five times a day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It kind of depended a little bit at the start on who was in charge, but there were a number of times of prayer during the day, and everyone would pray toward Mecca because that was the center and that's where the Kabbalah was the holy shrine.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then there were the almsgivings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was the method of taking care of the poor in the community as a reflection of both Judaism and Christianity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then there was the fasting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Fasting was prominent in ancient Israel.

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It was prominent within Christianity.

00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:46.080
<v SPEAKER_00>There was a sense that we become too easily consumers in our world and we need to be able to push back against that consumerism.

00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:55.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And when we push back against that consumerism, like the monks in the monasteries of Christianity, we reduce our food intake.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And sometimes during periods or seasons of life, in fact, Ramadan was built on top of Lent, because Christianity had Lent, the 40-day period prior to Good Friday, in which with Jesus we focus our attention on things that truly matter and maybe abstain from certain things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the fasts of Lent became in Islam the fasts of Ramadan.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the fasts of Ramadan, once again, there's a kind of simplicity and directness to all that happens in Islam.

00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:38.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's that you only fast during the day, and at night you can eat again because you can't get through 40 days without eating anything.

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:51.120
<v SPEAKER_00>And so you make the fast visible and obvious during the day, but then you also celebrate and know your place with others and with God in the eating and drinking again every night.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But that's the fourth thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then the fifth thing became essentially pilgrimage.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this again was patterned after Christianity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By this time in Christianity, the holy sites of Palestine, the holy tomb and the birthplace of Jesus, and the mountain of transfiguration, and all of these places had been identified and shrines or churches built over them, and Christians would flow, particularly from Europe, to these sites within Palestine.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was also translated into Islam.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's so much that Islam really just took directly from Christianity and from Judaism and then made its own thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the simplicity of Islam is you've got too many talks about God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Jesus is not God, he's just a prophet.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And we can we can handle prophets.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Moses is the great prophet, and Jesus is the great prophet, and then Muhammad is the greatest of the prophets, and the other prophets are there too.

00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.799
<v SPEAKER_00>But what do prophets do?

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<v SPEAKER_00>They speak for God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that becomes the mantra.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There is a God.

00:31:02.560 --> 00:31:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>God is somewhat remote, but God is in charge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the only way we can hear the voice of God is through the prophets.

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:16.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And the Quran is the direct statements of Allah, the direct statements of God.

00:31:16.320 --> 00:31:21.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And so they take prime precedence over anything else.

00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:30.720
<v SPEAKER_00>But those become the five pillars of Islam: the testimony, monotheistic testimony, there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet.

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:37.120
<v SPEAKER_00>And then the prayers, the daily prayers that put a rhythm to life, like ancient Judaism.

00:31:37.360 --> 00:31:43.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And then there are the almsgivings for the poor, which is part of Judaism and Christianity.

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:48.320
<v SPEAKER_00>And then there is the fast, which reminds us that we are not perfect.

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's from Judaism and Christianity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then there's the pilgrimage, the Hajj.

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<v SPEAKER_00>At least once in a lifetime, one is supposed to go to Mecca.

00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And if one can't, one's supposed to pay for others to go.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That became the simplicity of Islam and the forthright.

00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:10.080
<v SPEAKER_00>You don't have to know a lot of theology, but you practice these five things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, it spread very rapidly.

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>The Coptic Christians in Egypt were probably the only group that managed to live successfully side by side with the growing Islamic movement.

00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:41.360
<v SPEAKER_00>There was a huge sense of propriety among the Coptic Christians that nations come, nations go, religions come, religions go, we belong to God, we know Jesus, and we live in that light.

00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:43.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So the Coptic Christians survived.

00:32:44.160 --> 00:33:16.960
<v SPEAKER_00>But along the northern African coast of the Mediterranean, most of the Christians had been led by people who were actually from Europe, from Greece or from Rome, because the Roman colonies of northern Africa tended to be dominated by the peoples who came from Italy or Greece and established a rulership over these peoples, and it didn't filter into indigenous expressions of a common culture.

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It was the Roman Empire over the African peoples.

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:34.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Islam tended to be an indigenous kind of religion that it communicated with the people from their past and said, This is the way that your religion really was headed in any case.

00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So Christianity virtually disappeared from North Africa.

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:46.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And the same was true along the Silk Road, going to Egypt, I mean to China and to India.

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.120
<v SPEAKER_00>Islam kind of took over all of that.

00:33:51.279 --> 00:34:01.519
<v SPEAKER_00>What was left was this growing holy Roman Empire plus the Eastern Church as it had been large.

00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:10.719
<v SPEAKER_00>We call it the Byzantine Empire, not because it called itself that, but eventually it was known for being from Byzantium.

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And so it's that little region around the Aegean Sea and the Black Sea that became sort of the Eastern Roman Empire or the Roman Empire as it continued.

00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:31.279
<v SPEAKER_00>You have the Roman Empire, which is really now the Eastern Empire, and then you have the Holy Roman Empire, which is the Western Empire.

00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And that led to the third thing, which are the Crusades.

00:34:36.639 --> 00:35:03.279
<v SPEAKER_00>What happened as Islam began to push in that direction is that the Eastern communities, the Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantium Empire began to shrink and shrink and shrink, and territory was ripped away by this growing large Islamic kingdom that reached all the way up through Spain for a while before it was pushed back by others.

00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:07.919
<v SPEAKER_00>Charles Martel in the Battle of Tours in 732 defeated the Moors.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By 711, it had invaded all of Spain, and then the pushback came as Spain reconnected with the Holy Roman Empire.

00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:31.199
<v SPEAKER_00>What happened in the East is that there were tensions between the Greek expressions of Christianity and the Latin expressions of Christianity.

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:44.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Eventually, the Greeks got the kingdom because Constantine moved the kingdom over to Constantinople in the East, but the Roman Empire became the Holy Roman Empire.

00:35:44.319 --> 00:35:54.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And these two were kind of on a collision course with one another all the while being increasingly surrounded by the Islamic, the growing Islamic Empire.

00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:11.919
<v SPEAKER_00>By 1054, the Patriarch of Constantinople had excommunicated the Bishop of Rome, and the Bishop of Rome had excommunicated the Patriarch of Constantinople.

00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:22.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, these were the two leaders of the two major branches of the Christian church, and they equally said, You are wrong and you're not even Christian.

00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And you are wrong and you're not even Christian.

00:36:25.759 --> 00:36:36.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And so you have the two major expressions of Christianity each declaring the other is completely wrong and apostasized.

00:36:36.319 --> 00:36:41.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, that lasted for about 50 years, and they just didn't say hello to one another.

00:36:41.839 --> 00:36:44.719
<v SPEAKER_00>They lived separate, but 50 years only.

00:36:45.119 --> 00:37:03.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Then as the Islamic movement began to creep toward Constantinople, the Patriarch and the Emperor, actually, the Emperor of Constantinople said to the Pope of Rome and the Holy Roman Empire, Help, we need you.

00:37:03.279 --> 00:37:04.399
<v SPEAKER_00>Come over here.

00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.919
<v SPEAKER_00>And that gave rise to the Crusades.

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<v SPEAKER_00>About 50 years later, in 1095, Pope Urban was gathering the leaders of the church, obviously the Western Church.

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:23.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And during this several days conference, they had lots of things to talk about.

00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:30.879
<v SPEAKER_00>But just before the conference ended, Pope Urban II gave a fiery address.

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:44.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And in that speech or that sermon, the first half of it was that we have to clean house and we have to be better Christians and we have to do things right, and the leaders have to get back on target and all of that.

00:37:44.399 --> 00:37:51.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But the second half of it said, we have to help our brothers and sisters in the East.

00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:51.839
<v SPEAKER_00>We have to go.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.359
<v SPEAKER_00>They have asked us for help and we had better go.

00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And the crowd went wild.

00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.399
<v SPEAKER_00>The crowd shouted out, God wills it, God wills it.

00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.919
<v SPEAKER_00>And they tore their clothing apart into strips.

00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:18.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they took two strips, a longer strip and a shorter strip, and they put them on their shoulders, just laid them on top of their clothes, strips that formed a cross.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They were now under the cross, and that became the start of the crusades.

00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Pope Urban said, We got to organize this thing.

00:38:26.879 --> 00:38:30.239
<v SPEAKER_00>He gave until August 15 of 1096.

00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.759
<v SPEAKER_00>But some people said, God wills it, and we have to go.

00:38:34.399 --> 00:38:51.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And a whole bunch of people just started in mass moving toward Palestine and were basically killed right, left, and center along the way until that group of people was entirely annihilated.

00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Those who waited until 1096, they took off.

00:38:56.319 --> 00:39:16.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And although they weren't well equipped and they didn't really know what they were doing, surprisingly, because of the strange thing that this was, the church forming an army against a fellow religious group, they won.

00:39:16.399 --> 00:39:18.879
<v SPEAKER_00>They won three major battles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In 1097, they took over Nicaea, which was that resort town that Constantin that Constantine liked so much, and where the Council of Nicaea had been meeting and created the Nicene Creed.

00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.359
<v SPEAKER_00>They retook that from the Muslims that had pressed all the way over there.

00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:49.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they went on and they took Antioch, which was the place where Paul and Barnabas established that first major church outside of Palestine.

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:54.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And it became a center of Christian identity until the Muslims took over.

00:39:54.399 --> 00:39:56.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they went on to Jerusalem.

00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And in 1099, they took over Jerusalem too.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Nobody expected it, and yet they did it.

00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:15.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And just like that, the West had reasserted itself as a Christian organization under power and under orders in the Middle East.

00:40:15.919 --> 00:40:20.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, this began creating some friction and tension with the Muslims.

00:40:20.799 --> 00:40:30.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Not only were they they had never lost battles like this before, they had been so successful for hundreds of years that they couldn't imagine what was going on.

00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And suddenly the whole attention of Islam was retooled, and that's when other groups began to push back against Islam in various places, and it led to kind of a consolidation of the different Islamic uh leadership groups within the Middle East.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Within a few years, some of those places were retaken, and 50 years later, or so that's when the next pope had to declare another crusade because Edessa had fallen.

00:41:03.279 --> 00:41:07.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And so there was a sense that we have to go back and we have to fortify these things.

00:41:07.919 --> 00:41:12.239
<v SPEAKER_00>So there was a second crusade about 10, 1147.

00:41:12.879 --> 00:41:24.559
<v SPEAKER_00>The years of the 1100s, the 12th century, that's basically the time of the crusades, the 1200, uh, 12th, uh, the 1100s, the 12th century.

00:41:24.799 --> 00:41:32.480
<v SPEAKER_00>About midway through that century, the second crusade was called, and it was a complete disaster.

00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:43.759
<v SPEAKER_00>While people got going and they managed to, some of them reach their destinations, they were resoundingly pushed back and beaten by Muslim forces.

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:50.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And then as they began to sit and lick their wounds, they decided that they had to take an easy target.

00:41:50.399 --> 00:41:54.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And nobody knows why, but they began to attack Damascus.

00:41:54.879 --> 00:41:58.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And Damascus had been a stronghold of Christianity.

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:05.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And now suddenly we had the crusaders of Christianity fighting Damascus, which was both Christian and Muslim.

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, within a few days, the defenders in Damascus managed to almost annihilate all of the remaining crusaders, and the second crusade came to a very dismal end.

00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:27.440
<v SPEAKER_00>The third thing that the Third Crusade was uh commanded about uh oh 40 years later, right near the end of the 12th century.

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:43.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And this time there was much more planning that went into it, and the Third Crusade managed to re restock some of the places in Palestine, but there was a strong pushback against it.

00:42:43.919 --> 00:42:48.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, and there were three notable characters out of Europe that went there.

00:42:49.119 --> 00:43:06.399
<v SPEAKER_00>One was Frederick Barbarossa, the orange-bearded German out of Germany, and then the other two were the king of France, Philip, and the king of England, King Henry the Lionhearted, or I mean King Richard the Lionhearted.

00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:12.799
<v SPEAKER_00>If you know some other stories out of England, you probably know the stories of Robin Hood.

00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:19.759
<v SPEAKER_00>What happens is that King Richard leaves for the Crusades and he puts his brother, who is really corrupt, in charge.

00:43:19.839 --> 00:43:31.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's during that time that Robin Hood of Nottinghamshire begins to push back against the rule because he wants uh King Richard to come back again, and he does.

00:43:31.839 --> 00:43:34.399
<v SPEAKER_00>That's all the stories of Robin Hood.

00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:44.159
<v SPEAKER_00>But these three kings go, and both King Philip of France and King Richard of England, they kind of work together.

00:43:44.319 --> 00:43:51.199
<v SPEAKER_00>They were a bit of enemies of one another, but they kind of worked together with preparations and they planned a sea voyage.

00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:58.239
<v SPEAKER_00>King Frederick Barbarossa of Germany wanted to do things on his own, and he was a blustery sort of guy.

00:43:58.399 --> 00:44:00.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And he took off overland.

00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And about the time he got into what's now South Central Turkey, he was just moving along, and there was a large river that they had to cross, and he just kind of blundered right in with his horse and his heavy armor on him, and he fell off his horse and he was weighted down by his armor and he drowned.

00:44:19.279 --> 00:44:25.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And his part of the crusaders just kind of evaporated, and some went back home and other places.

00:44:25.279 --> 00:44:28.319
<v SPEAKER_00>But King Richard and King Philip, they managed to go.

00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:33.919
<v SPEAKER_00>By this time, there was a leader among the Muslims that the West called Saladin.

00:44:34.319 --> 00:44:39.440
<v SPEAKER_00>He has a much longer title than that, but he becomes sort of comrades.

00:44:39.919 --> 00:44:43.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Particularly to King Richard the Lionhearted.

00:44:43.359 --> 00:44:54.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And while Philip will be there for a time and they'll win back some territory, particularly along the Mediterranean coast, in the end they won't be able to take Jerusalem.

00:44:54.480 --> 00:45:00.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Philip will go back and he'll try to press some claims against things that King Richard is supposed to earn.

00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:09.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And so Richard is in a hurry to get back, but he makes peace with Saladin and they kind of like one another and they form a pact together.

00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:20.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And they say that both Muslims and Christians, as well as Jews, will have full and complete access to all of the holy sites in Palestine.

00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:25.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's kind of lingered through every different changing regime right up until today.

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, there was a strong pushback after Richard left to England.

00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:38.719
<v SPEAKER_00>There was a strong pushback from Islam, and there was a rather nasty slaughter of Christians, particularly.

00:45:38.879 --> 00:45:49.599
<v SPEAKER_00>There was a lot of slaughtering of Muslims by Christians and an awful lot of Christians slaughtered by Muslims until the Muslims basically took over part of that world again.

00:45:49.839 --> 00:45:55.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And that led in around 1200 to the Fourth Crusade.

00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:04.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And the Fourth Crusade saw some of the failings of the early crusades and wanted to be well stocked and wanted to have boats to take them over there.

00:46:04.799 --> 00:46:08.399
<v SPEAKER_00>So they came to Venice and they spent some time in Venice.

00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.559
<v SPEAKER_00>The Venice people were the shipbuilders, build some boats for us.

00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they ran out of money, and the people of Venice were kind of uncertain, what are you going to do now?

00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:29.599
<v SPEAKER_00>And then the people of Venice were kind of in competition with the people of Cedar, down on the coast of the Adriatic Sea, part of Croatia today.

00:46:29.919 --> 00:46:45.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And because these two rival cities both wanted to command the trade of the Adriatic Sea and into the Mediterranean Sea, the people of Venice said, Well, we'll forgive your debts and we'll build your boats if you will take out Zadar.

00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And the Pope said, You can't do that.

00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:49.119
<v SPEAKER_00>That's Christians against Christians.

00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.480
<v SPEAKER_00>We don't do that kind of thing.

00:46:50.639 --> 00:47:04.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And the people of the Crusades said, Well, we want to get our boats paid, so they went off and they went to Zadar and they resoundingly beat the pulp out of the people of Zadar until it became sort of a subsidiary of Venice.

00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:33.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's about the time that the Muslims finally got close to Constantinople, and the emperor, uh, the last of the whole or Roman emperors there was put off his throne, and his son comes over to Zadar and he says to these crusaders, he says, If you will come to Constantinople and drive out the Muslims, I will give you a whole pile of money.

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.679
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll pay for everything for you to go on crusade.

00:47:37.919 --> 00:47:43.679
<v SPEAKER_00>I will even bow to the Pope in Rome, will bring the church back together again.

00:47:43.839 --> 00:47:45.199
<v SPEAKER_00>This is going to be good for you.

00:47:45.359 --> 00:47:47.919
<v SPEAKER_00>And everybody said, Yeah, we can handle that.

00:47:48.159 --> 00:48:04.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And all of a sudden, more people came streaming into Zadar from Europe and they left for Constantinople and they wiped out the Muslims who had taken over Constantinople and they re-established Christian rule in Constantinople.

00:48:04.799 --> 00:48:11.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And then Prince Alexis says, By the way, I don't have any money.

00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:17.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And they turned on him, and the crusaders took over Constantinople.

00:48:17.839 --> 00:48:20.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's the Fourth Crusade.

00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.599
<v SPEAKER_00>You see how crazy this thing is getting?

00:48:23.919 --> 00:48:41.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Christianity had regained for a time some footholds in Palestine, and then they had come under turmoil, and now they were being lost, and now Christians were turning against Christians, and the Muslims would continue to push through what becomes Turkey.

00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.000
<v SPEAKER_00>It was a really tough time.

00:48:44.480 --> 00:49:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is where we get to the modern age, because what has continued to take place since the time of the Crusades in particular is a strong animosity between righteous Muslims and righteous Christians, self-perceived, between strong Muslims and strong Christians.

00:49:07.919 --> 00:49:10.079
<v SPEAKER_00>They have our territory.

00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.839
<v SPEAKER_00>This is our territory, and we have a better religion than they do.

00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.519
<v SPEAKER_00>They just don't know it yet.

00:49:15.759 --> 00:49:24.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And this has led to even the tensions that are exploding again in the Middle East, and even to what in the United States we call 9-11.

00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:43.839
<v SPEAKER_00>One of the reasons that the date was picked by bin Laden for the attack on the World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon and the White House, was that that was the anniversary of the date in which the Battle of Constantinople had taken place.

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And the Muslims had lost then, and now they were going to win.

00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And this continues to go on and on back and forth.

00:49:51.759 --> 00:49:55.199
<v SPEAKER_00>There were some other outcomes of the Crusades.

00:49:55.519 --> 00:50:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>One is that now that the church had kind of spent its wad trying to push in the East and was increasingly losing, the church continued to use that tactic led by Rome as a powerhouse of political activity and use it on non-Christians and on supposedly heretical Christians and people who aren't really believing like us.

00:50:22.319 --> 00:50:47.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And you have about a dozen more crusades after the initial four, some of which went toward Egypt and Palestine, but most of which went toward Western and Northern Europe to conquer peoples that are not yet Christians and turn them, force them, either kill them or make them Christians, and Christianity becomes this kind of power-hungry organization.

00:50:47.839 --> 00:51:06.159
<v SPEAKER_00>This will lead eventually as Europe grows through the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution and the Age of Exploration to this sense that Christianity and European dominance are one and the same.

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And so we can go out and we can conquer other peoples.

00:51:09.359 --> 00:51:11.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And who are the other peoples?

00:51:11.919 --> 00:51:31.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Africa, Asia, the Americas newly discovered, and Christianity will walk with the powerhouses of Europe, and there will be this kind of mixed thing that will emerge colonialism and Christianity.

00:51:33.359 --> 00:51:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Is it one and the same?

00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:36.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Are they different?

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:58.079
<v SPEAKER_00>They have become so intertwined that it was almost impossible to decipher the difference by the time of the great mission era of the church that brought Christianity to Africa and Asia in large numbers, but also brought the dominance of the power-hungry Europeans and Americans.

00:51:58.319 --> 00:52:00.399
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's a strange phenomenon.

00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, there are a couple of things that come out of the Crusades that are worth thinking about.

00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:14.000
<v SPEAKER_00>One is the dominance and the kind of ultimate victory of the Bishop of Rome.

00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:20.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Essentially, the church became the remnant of the old Roman Empire.

00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:28.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And it needed a hierarchy, an organizational structure, a set of organizational principles.

00:52:28.319 --> 00:52:34.399
<v SPEAKER_00>It adopted all of that from the old Roman Empire.

00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:47.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And what would happen, at least in significant part, in the Reformation, which was a Western Christian phenomena, is that people were saying, How did this ever happen?

00:52:47.759 --> 00:53:07.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And how did the initial teachings of Jesus about turning the other cheek and about practicing love and hospitality, how did that turn into a great human nation state with power and prestige and wealth and armies and all of that?

00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:13.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And a big part of the Reformation will be a pushback against all of that.

00:53:13.839 --> 00:53:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>But along the way, something other intriguing began to happen, and we'll be we'll see this still in our own experiences of Christianity.

00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:35.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Early on, back in the Roman Republic, the armies were not raised out of mercenary payments to subjugated peoples like the Germans and the Goths and the Visigoths and others.

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:40.559
<v SPEAKER_00>The Roman Empire, in its later stages, really had a paid military machine.

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:50.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Early on, it was people who were dominant in their communities who would uh ask their neighbors and their families and their friends, join me and become my troop.

00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And those people would say, I will be with you.

00:53:53.759 --> 00:53:54.879
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll have your back.

00:53:55.039 --> 00:54:01.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And they would give to the leader of their troop a little token of their commitment.

00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It was usually a sandal or a small piece of clothing.

00:54:05.759 --> 00:54:10.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And that in the Latin language was called a sacramentum.

00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:17.359
<v SPEAKER_00>It was a pledge that as long as you held this from me, you can know that I will be with you.

00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:30.559
<v SPEAKER_00>The early church leaders, teachers, pastors, theologians began to use that term to apply to baptism and the Lord's Supper, that these were actually little symbols from God.

00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:37.599
<v SPEAKER_00>We can't see God, but God comes to us with these symbols, and God says, through these things, I'll have your back.

00:54:37.759 --> 00:54:38.799
<v SPEAKER_00>You can count on me.

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:39.919
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm going to be with you.

00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:41.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And they became the sacraments.

00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, what happened during the time of the crusades in the Middle Ages is that people at first went on pilgrimage to the holy sites, and then the leaders of the church said, Because of that, you're doing a great thing.

00:54:57.279 --> 00:55:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You don't need to pay taxes, and we'll provide hospitality and safety along the way.

00:55:03.279 --> 00:55:09.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they said, you know, if you die, then we'll just kind of talk to heaven and say, let them in.

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:17.919
<v SPEAKER_00>Or they began the idea of purgatory, that there'd be a second chance, and then we'll get let your family pay the unremaining bill.

00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:24.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And by the time the crusades finished, they had created something that was called the plenary indulgence.

00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:39.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And that was basically: if you go on a crusade, if you go fight for Mother Church, those infidels, the Muslims, and others, we will give you a blanket get out of hell free card.

00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:41.440
<v SPEAKER_00>No questions asked.

00:55:41.759 --> 00:55:52.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And once the crusades had run their course, the church didn't back off on that, but created a whole sacramental system and found that it was pretty good to be a monopoly.

00:55:52.799 --> 00:55:55.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And they said to people, You want to get to heaven?

00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:57.599
<v SPEAKER_00>You have to come to us.

00:55:57.839 --> 00:55:59.519
<v SPEAKER_00>You have to process the sacraments.

00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:11.599
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they multiplied the sacraments in ways, and the church owned the sacraments, and you don't get to go to heaven or you don't get to the next life except that you get our stuff.

00:56:11.759 --> 00:56:13.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And then they began to sell those things.

00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:23.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And that was what triggered Martin Luther in particular in the start of the Reformation, because Johannes Tetzel was up there selling indulgences.

00:56:23.839 --> 00:56:30.399
<v SPEAKER_00>Every time a coin in the coffers clinks, another soul into heaven slinks.

00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.839
<v SPEAKER_00>They had all kinds of rhymes and little ditties for that.

00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:58.239
<v SPEAKER_00>But indulgences and plenary indulgences, which are just not part of the Bible at all, and the growing network of sacraments, this is what you still see within the Roman Catholic expression of the Christian church, these become the monopoly of the church, owned by the church, and the means by which you can't get to God except through us.

00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>The reformers will begin to push back on that and see the sacraments in a completely different light.

00:57:05.279 --> 00:57:10.399
<v SPEAKER_00>And that'll be part of our story of the Reformation, which comes in the future.

00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:23.679
<v SPEAKER_00>But for now, what happened through the time of the early, high, and late Middle Ages is that the church took over the business of the old Roman Empire.

00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:34.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Islam spread across northern Africa and the old Silk Road and the Middle East and pushed into the Eastern Church and the Eastern Roman Empire.

00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:41.279
<v SPEAKER_00>The tensions between East and West were mitigated for a time when the East cried out for help to the Western Church.

00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:56.239
<v SPEAKER_00>The Western Church saw its chance, built up armies, did the crusades, some of which were modestly successful, all of which were really failures because they put Islam and Christianity against one another as mortal enemies.

00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:10.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And in the end, it gave rise to the dominance of the Church of Rome and its structures, so that the stage was set for someone to come along, for some to come along and say, that's not Jesus' church.

00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:17.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And that became what the confessions of the reformed expressions of Christianity pointed to.

00:58:17.919 --> 00:58:23.119
<v SPEAKER_00>What's the difference between the true church and the false church?

00:58:23.359 --> 00:58:35.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And that would give rise to not a new form of Christianity, but an attempt to take Christianity back to its earlier expressions, reformed.

00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And the reformation became that initiative.

00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.719
<v SPEAKER_00>I think we'll leave it at that for now, and uh we'll get into some of those other things in the next session.
