No Plays Off Episode 14

Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off,"  chat the first day of March Madness, the Dolphins' trade of Jaylen Waddle & the fun of Golf Betting.

They also dive into Adam's family bathroom habits & so much more!

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:28

What up everybody? Welcome in. Welcome to March. I know it's mid-March, but now it's really, really, really March. The madness, it's underway. This is no plays off. Thorb, see ya. Kaufman coming at you for the next who knows how long. Great to see you boys. In fact, where I think I need to begin, see you. Did I just see before the show on Instagram that today is your 10-year wedding anniversary?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Oh, it is. It is. I'm I think I'm supposed to repost a story now that you mention it. Are you spending that with us here? So I don't so one thing about me, I don't really celebrate holidays like the typical person. Like birthdays, I mean Christmas, maybe, I don't know, Thanksgiving, maybe, but like I'm like every day is the same to me. I get to come to a job where I enjoy. What better way to celebrate any sort of anniversary or birthday or anything else?

SPEAKER_06 1:18

Plus, Thor, we know how he feels about his wife.

SPEAKER_04 1:20

Yeah, like so. Who cares? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22

That's right. Yeah, you're good. She'll be all right. Should be fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:28

She'll be fine. I see we're a hat today, Adam. I like it. You like this? Yeah. I mean, we're we're in the spirit of today. Yeah, this is you know, this is this is gonna be a wild next four days across these games going on. Yeah, that's where I went to school. I think we all have masters from this particular university, the three of us. Yeah, I'm so I'm sweating a first round leader bad right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Who do you have? You don't know Sung J. No, you do not. Of course, I do. Why would you land? Okay, so for people who are uninitiated, we're not gonna this is not gonna be a golf conversation. Sung J M's been bad for like a year, and I mean like really bad. So, how did you land on Sung J M, Thorb?

SPEAKER_04 2:04

All right, so you look, you gotta look at it. So I bet I'm outright too for the tournament. So I naturally and I I was talking to you about this. I was like, I didn't really know how the wind was gonna play out, so I was just gonna bet all my outrights, and so Sung J last year, and not like he's a player like this, but Victor Hoblin was playing horrific coming into this tournament, was 80 to 1 going in, it's true, and then won the tournament. So I looked at it like that. It's just good players win this a lot. So and he is good, he not lately, but he's good.

SPEAKER_06 2:30

What was the number? Leader number, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Uh 90 to 1, 90 or 100 to 1.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

And in honestly, he's got like, I mean, obviously, he's got three holes to play, so anything can happen, but he's got like a little cushion, and I don't think the afternoon guys are so unless he unless he slips, which he he very well could, um, I think he might be that dude. I'm impressed.

SPEAKER_06 2:51

Is there in I'm the hottest golf better in the world, right? You actually are. I mean, you're you are you're riding pretty hot. You you did well last week, not as well as you could have, I realize, but you did do well. Uh oh, bear kind of uh fell apart. That's not not ideal for you.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

Ever since that one kid called us out on Twitter, I'm up eight grand.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Take that loser of that is amazing.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

Hope he's here with us in the chat. Stifler says he needs the hat. It's a solid lip. What's the appropriate? All right, so when you have a first-round leader who has a nice little cushion, but you still have the whole afternoon to go, obviously, you can do nothing but sit, hope, pray, all those things right now. But as the day goes on, if it looks like, and hopefully for your sake it doesn't, but if it looks like somebody in the afternoon is starting to get close and threaten you in any way, but it's like one guy, not a collection of guys. Do you consider a hedge or are you just letting this thing ride at 90 to 1?

SPEAKER_04 3:55

It would have to be like hole 16, and there's only one guy in play to like really um, and to be honest, eight under if he stays at eight under at this course. I'm honestly I see I'm gonna say this, and then someone's gonna shoot 10 under, but uh, I'm not that worried about it because eight under is so good here, yeah. So um, yeah, but you can't hedging and golf is very tricky because you have to wait until the very end because the amount of things that could happen in like a five-hole stretch, I mean, like everyone saw it on Sunday, so like everything can change so quickly. So it would be like one or two holes left, only one guy in it, and then you probably still get a good number unless he's already at eight under or something. So it should be it should be okay.

SPEAKER_06 4:37

I hope. I don't know. Has the golf distracted you guys, or are you pretty invested in March Madness?

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Golf always distracts me personally. Like, I I am it March Madness is always going to be, it doesn't matter, it could be the Puerto Rico Open, it's always going to be the backup to anything golf related. It's not because I'm such a like a true like golf fan, I'm such a golf betting fan that it feels like talking about March Madness, every single Monday when the odds come out or Sunday night and when the DFS pricing comes out, that feels like March Madness to me every Monday. It doesn't matter the tournament. So I I'm like I've got a big bet on TCU, so I'm kind of hoping that one comes in. I know they're at half and they're up pretty big at the moment, but I mean I've already lost a matchup in golf, but like everything golf related takes center stage right now.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

100% agree. How am I supposed to Sun Sanjay? He he could win me, he could win me a grand right now in a day. How am I supposed to make a grand in a day in March Madness? Well, I gotta win 14 bets in a row. I can't do that.

SPEAKER_06 5:35

Well, I mean you could, you could, or you just you know put enough on one bet. That's a good point. I I um appears that you could also lose a grand if it went the wrong way. That's that's a whole other thing.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

So can I say something? Because two weeks ago we talked about the idiosyncrasy of mine where when I know I'm in contention, I don't look at my DK stuff right until afterward. So if you guys recall, because I'm up several thousand dollars over the last couple weeks too, I just did it in a different before. And it and it's it was DFS. And what happened was I entered an 8,300-person five-dollar contest. It was like 150 max. I had uh one entry in it, one five-dollar entry. I think it was 150 max, maybe maybe less, but it was definitely like 50 or more. And uh that five dollar entry was in first place for$10,000. Now I didn't know this at the time because again, I wasn't paying attention because on purpose, but I knew I was somewhere near the top. One single five-dollar entry was winning$10,000 until Ludwig Oberg took his very last putt from 25 feet. He made it, which dropped me on my five-dollar entry from$10,000 to$3,000. So when I opened the app after the fact, I see I won$3,000 and I was super psyched about it, which goes back to why I do this in the first place. I found out later, of course, that the reason I lost by just a few points was that Ludwig in this showdown contest ended up burying that putt. But if I was watching that in the moment, seeing myself in first place and then watching that putt go down, I think I would have been kind of devastated, to be honest with you. But the fact that I learned it after the fact, already knowing I banked$3,000, it actually made it a better experience for me.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

Are you taking out a little bit of the sweat though? You know, it's you don't want to stress.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Well, it's I know so the sweat's already there because I know I've got a shot at it. But you don't know how much.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

Yeah, well, that's true. I'd like to know I I could I um I have a chance of winning 10 grand.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

I figured I had a chance, I wasn't sure, but I figured I had a chance at 10 grand.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

So this big character screwed us both in different ways, eh?

SPEAKER_06 7:34

Well, I mean, he helped me. I have you guys in in part to thank anyway, because last week and we were on the text chain, I was cheering on our uh our our guy Cam Young. Uh, because so half here's what I I could have gotten a better number. Here's what ended up happening. So one of the books that Gronk Gronk based, I don't even know what the promotion was. I think like Gronk hit the the fair way on the 17 T or something, and and so everybody got a bonus bet of a hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

Who he didn't even do it by the way, they just gave it to us anyway. Perfect he missed the green like 17 times.

SPEAKER_06 8:08

Don't even care, happy to get the bonus bet. So I'm all ready to use the bonus bet on NBA or something I actually know about. And then I read the fine print and it says, No, you have to use this on on golf, specifically this tournament. I'm like, okay, well, what am I gonna do with it? It's a bonus bet, so I may as well be a little stupid with it, and I'll sprinkle some outrights. I'm not gonna try and you know just double my invisible or pretend money, monopoly money with a matchup bet or something like that. I'll try and hit an outright. So I s I I reach out to a few people that I that I trust in this particular area, the two of you on the one thread, and then uh see a couple of guys that you're familiar with, buddies of mine, Brady Cannon and Jason Sobel. And I reached so I so I reach out to all these golf knowers, and the common denominator, so every like Sobel just by itself, he said, look, Obert's probably gonna win, but given the number, I would bet Young. He was all in on Young, and then you guys named two or three different guys, Cam was one of them, and then Brady named two or three different guys, different guys, but Cam was one of them. So Cam was the common denominator. So I threw half that bonus bet on Cam Young, and I was happy to get that thing. But to go back to what you were just talking about about not really paying attention, I didn't turn on one second of that golf tournament on TV. I wasn't even following it on the apps, I just periodically checked in on my account to see if the you know potential cash out was rising, you know, was was going up or going down. And so as I saw it ticking up, up, up, I was like, Oh, I might actually make a little money off of this. So all a long-winded way of saying, hey, thanks guys for your golf advice. Hey man, happy for you, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

I think that's the cool thing about golf betting too, is that you know, I had Matt Fitzpatrick, so that was kind of a heartbreaker, and I would have won more. But because when Cam was 10 to 1, I put on two different accounts, I put two like somewhat sizable bets on it. So I ended up making a lot of money there too. And of course, it doesn't always work out like that, but the fact that you have four rounds and four days to consider where you want to get a live bet or two in makes golf so unique relative to other sports. And again, I I tell people all the time, you don't have to love golf to love golf betting. I mean, truly, I didn't love golf until I until I started golf betting. I was like, oh my god, this is this is awesome. So uh it's yeah, I can't say enough about it.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

That tournament was awesome too. Like, what that that was one of the because most of the times I'm pretty upset when I lose an outright like that, but that one when I finished and then the depression settled down a little bit. I was like, that was a really good tournament. Like that was a very good Sunday. The players is awesome, man. And I didn't know you had the 10 to 1 cam. You took that uh before the fourth round started.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Yeah, basically Sunday morning. Because remember, we talked about it on our text thread the day before, and it was like plus 600. And I was like, I'm just not super intrigued by that number. And then I I was in our one of one of my Discords, and somebody had mentioned that it was 10 to 1. And I was like, okay, now I'm willing to take it. So I uh on uh two different sports books, I put like between like 30 and 40 bucks on it. So it was it was it was uh on each, so it was a nice little little payout.

SPEAKER_06 11:21

Well, that's fitts would have won me about it. Was I I asked you guys about it midway through the tournament, I think probably when that bonus bet came through or something, and so it was after two rounds that I bet him at the plus six fifty that was there. And I wonder, you know, I and I just used my stuff, I was done at that point and just rooting it on. But Aubert had had taken such a lead going into the fourth round that there was such like, like you said, young dropped a 10 to one, and anyone else who seemed like maybe a better bet the day before, their odds got worse or better depending on your perspective. I I wonder what you guys would have said. I guess probably based on what you just said, you still would have said Cam. But I if if we had had the conversation 24 hours later, with all those numbers being skewed at that point, I wonder what advice you guys would have given out.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, it would have been Cam, like 10 to 1. I mean, it's such a hard course, there's water everywhere. Ludwig is is typically not very good on Sundays, like he can really have some bad weekends historically. Everything lined up for Cam in particular because he was only three shots back, or even a guy like Fitzpatrick, just to be like slow and steady wins the race and just wait for people to crumble around him. And that's that's it, it ends up it ended up. That's exactly what happened. What are you looking at, Thorpe? What happened?

SPEAKER_04 12:31

Sungye just missed a part three way right. Sorry to hear that. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine, it's fine. I'm not worried about this.

SPEAKER_07 12:44

I feel you sure about that.

SPEAKER_06 12:49

Nice, yeah. Nice. That was awesome. I feel like I'm uh I'm I'm infiltrating or I'm I'm thrusting myself upon the Najod family Thorb. Because ever since Sia was like, hey, you know, you should you should give GG my wife a follow on Instagram. He was he was propping up his wife. I did so, and she, you know, private account accepted it. So like I'm I'm in, I'm in, right? And I she posts a photo the other day of the family out at another wizards game that I'm surprised Sia did not complain about here on the podcast. First one, yes, not this one. It's early, but I I see him out there and he's got he's got a hoodie on, not like what he's wearing now, a polo or a button up top button. So I'm like, whoa, see you out in the wild, right? And so we have a little back and forth with gigi, and then one of our clips gets posted, I think, from from Dano last show, and get get a clap clap emoji from uh Abe Najad, who I can only imagine is your father. So no, my brother, that's my brother. That's your brother. I Abe sounds like a dad's name. That's your brother. I didn't even see that. Was that on Twitter? Like that was Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Oh, Instagram. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

So I didn't be in Najab's honesty. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, we got the whole fam involved now.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

The Wizards game was cool because we were in the third row. Steph Curry didn't play, but he was we were right behind the Golden State bench. So like he was like basically in our face the whole time, and there were some cool moments where he was like celebrating with the team on on the side, and it was like literally right in front of us. Uh, yeah, it was I mean spit on him or doing a competitive game. No, I mean, one of my kids was wearing a Steph Curry jersey, so we were kind of no spit. Okay, yeah, we were kind of on on team. Oh, I was rooting for the Wizards. I was basically so I had a uh a prop that Mike Barner, who some of you might know, he gives out props across all sports, but I work with him over at Sports Line. He had a he had a play on Guy Santos over 13 and a half points that game. So it was really funny because we're in the Warriors section because we're right behind the bench, it's like a small section. So I'm rooting for the Wizards pretty actively, and then I'm also we're um rooting for Santos. So everybody was very and I didn't want to say what I didn't want to say I had money on him, so I didn't. So everybody was very confused. Like, oh, he must be related to Guy Santos, Brazilian, he must be Brazilian.

SPEAKER_06 15:02

Yeah, I don't remember if I asked you this. Are your are your kids do they have favorite teams in the DC area specifically, or are they just fans of players?

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Both. So they're Wizards fans first, they're commanders fans first, but they love Steph Curry, so you know they they like OKC. Uh the they they like the players right now more than the teams, but both to be honest. They don't really like OKC that much. I I talk enough smack about OKC where they're like OKC is so hard to root for. Lou Dort's like the cheapest player in in the entire NBA, in my opinion. Uh, you got you got SGA does does the uh the BAM out of bio thing and just runs into people to draw fouls. It's not a fun deal. Do you feel this way last year, or is this a oh no, last year too? I was very verbal about this last year.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Yeah, I love hearing see you talk about OKC. It's great, it gets all worse.

SPEAKER_06 15:56

I like watching the thunder. I don't blame SGA at all. If you're not gonna if you're not gonna legislate it out of the game, yeah, I think man, do what you're gonna do. It's it's no to me, it's it's not the same, but at the same time, it's no different than the tush push.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Those are two different things though, because I agree that yeah, if you're getting away with it, you should do it. But you can't disagree with the idea of yeah, you should do that if you can get away with it, but it's not fun to watch. Those are two completely different discussions.

SPEAKER_06 16:26

I mean, I don't think it if this is like a a sort of a larger conversation, I don't find the NBA today all that much fun to watch compared to what it was when we were growing up anyway. And I know that's like old man shaking fist at cloud, but the you know, just where it's gone to the extremes of the three-point shot and stretch everything, and it's just a game of you know, running and chucking. And I know that it's more nuanced than that, but I'm you know, in a in a very macro way. Uh, you know, it's I I don't need to watch a three-point contest. We have three-point contests for that.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Thorb, where are you at on the NBA? Like compared to other sports, is it like pretty low on the totem pole?

SPEAKER_04 17:09

It's pretty low unless the Knicks are involved, then I'm involved.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

So pretty low then.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

So pretty hey, man. The Knicks are terrible last year, they did good last year. It was a good factor not making that good is making that. We're fucked. We're is everything is really like Sun Jay is fucked.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Is he bogeying?

SPEAKER_04 17:29

Oh man, that's probably that's like a 20-footer for par. What's he at now?

SPEAKER_06 17:33

He was eight under before. What's he at now?

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Uh well, he's still at eight. He's gonna miss that, go to seven, and then one hole left. Okay, so he will have a one-stroke lead. So even seven, you're still feeling he's at seven.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

I think that that because uh Jeff Stenberg's in the chat, stifler. Of course, uh, he says he's boots on the ground at the course. I think he's like at the valve spar. And he says the weather is deteriorating, which makes sense. The wind's gonna pick up, course is gonna firm out a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 17:59

Yeah, if anyone's really like they're like five under through seven, stifler. Can you just can you do something about that?

SPEAKER_01 18:06

He's a yell on the backswing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

Anything, anything works. Jack Ice.

SPEAKER_06 18:10

Yeah, so hey, every while we're talking about the NBA, everybody says, like, you know, don't be the villain on Twitter, like, try and avoid being that guy each day, right? And I'm not saying I'm that guy, the the engagement is much lower than that, but but I but I could be by the end of the day because what apparently is a very insensitive post that I put up earlier that I'm not taking down. I'm I'm I I want to talk to you guys about this. I'm sure you saw the news that Cade Cunningham was uh diagnosed with a collapse lot, distance star, MVP candidate, kind of sort of not really. Uh expected to miss an extended period of time, which by the way, he's being reevaluated in two weeks, so everybody can grow up. So Shams broke this news and I quote tweeted this and I wrote, All caps for this part. This sucks for Cade. That is my acknowledging that this sucks for Cade. But then I went right into the Boston Homerism and I said, But the Celtics now have a path to the number one seed in the East. Boston trails Detroit by three and a half games with 13 to play, 14 for the Pistons, and all of my mentions are basically oh, here's a new one I just refreshed. Piece of shit. Just a lot a lot of every just got a bad name, some that I won't even read here, and you know we can say pretty much whatever we want here. Some I will not even read here. I am being called everything that you can imagine because of my insensitivity about Cade Cunningham, to which I will just say, guys, and please, like, tell me if you think I am in the wrong with this. But he's not dead, he's not like he didn't just get hit by a car.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

Well, no, that's what I was just gonna say. I just got a uh bleacher report update Cade Cade Cunningham dead.

SPEAKER_06 19:59

That'd be tough for you. That'd be tough for you. Yeah, like we don't even know that he's gonna not be back for the playoffs. Like this, I'm not saying this that a collapsed lung isn't serious, of course it is, but I would send the exact same tweet if it was like, oh, he's got a you know, grade two quad strain. Like the the point isn't, oh, I I don't want Cade to get better. Honestly, I think the Celtics are better in the Pistons with a healthy Cade. I think the Pistons are probably behind the Cavaliers too, and ahead of Thorbes Knicks. I've got him third in the playoff field, but that doesn't even matter right now. What matters is the aggressiveness being taken out on me for what I'll admit is a somewhat, I guess, insensitive tweet. I could have said, like, you know, oh prayers, like I can do what everyone else is doing. Prayers up, Cade. You know, hope like hope hope everything is well. Nobody praying for him. What's the point? What's the point? I don't need to do all that. I can make it about the Celtics if I want to.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Well, Thor, but I mean, uh anytime you say this sucks for it, sounds like no offense, but like you know, you're about to offend somebody. So you knew that was coming, regardless. I think I I'm okay with your tweet. I do think that the nature of the injury, because you're like, I would have done this even if it was a quad injury. Well, it wasn't. That's the thing, is like a collapsed lung, which is a unique and you know, kind of life potential altering situation, at least to some in the inner still be on the floor tomorrow. That's the nuance to it. I mean, the timing of it, you maybe could have waited like four or five hours before and let just sort of the dust settle. Yeah, I didn't wait for the five. I don't have a problem with it though.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

Yeah, guy can't breathe, and you're just tweeting about how the Celtics uh are in better shape.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

No offense.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

What's that like? What's that recovery looking like? I've never collapsed a lung before. Sounds serious.

SPEAKER_06 21:49

Again, if he's gonna be reevaluated in two weeks, and I realize reevaluated doesn't mean he's gonna play in two weeks, but I don't know. I feel like if the recovery timeline was uh Assume to be a really long time, it'd be like he's going to be reevaluated in four weeks. Sure. Six weeks.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Ideally, you don't want your lung to collapse.

SPEAKER_06 22:12

Our guy SPJ says uh two to three weeks is typical for a collapsed lung. If that's the case, I mean a high ankle sprain will keep you out longer than a collapsed lung. Uh he's fine. He's fine. All right. I'm I'm with the tweet.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

You're good. You're clear.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Yeah, I don't think it's that bad. On on the scale of like, let's start doing this for for tweets. Like on the scale of like one to like completely harmless to ten, like very offensive. I feel like that's a four or a five. I don't think that's anywhere approaching like, oh, you shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

Yeah, I mean, I'll give him a three if it's a two-to-week timeline. Yeah, two to three week time. That's not people on social media or soft, is what it is. Yeah, when Jason uh Tatum got hurt, I just said lol.

SPEAKER_07 22:57

Did you really? That guy's career.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

I don't even tweet like that.

SPEAKER_06 23:03

People he even he he thought he was dead.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

I'm not an LOL guy, I've never typed LOL unless I'm being yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

I'd be trying to get some emotion out of you. I've done it ironically.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Yeah, like I like I just mean like I'll never type LOL. I think no, neither will I.

SPEAKER_06 23:19

SPJ in the chat I do it all the time. Types I SPJ has sent me lol in via text 30 times today already. He's a big guy.

SPEAKER_04 23:29

You gotta keep it light in the you know I'd be I'm talking to you. Like, I mean, sometimes I might say something funny and he'll just reply back and then like what are the period, you know. Like it's it's nothing, man. It's not you gotta give me something. He always says ha too. I say ha. I'm a ha ha guy.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

I don't do ha ha. I think that's more ridiculous and like cartoon. Ha ha ha ha guys acknowledging a laugh, just one single ha.

SPEAKER_06 23:53

All right, we'll work on it. You're putting limits on your ha's, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Just one ha.

SPEAKER_06 23:59

He won't give you the ha ha.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Why? Because it's like, are you really like is it?

SPEAKER_06 24:05

Three of them if it's really funny. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

Sounds like I'll go up to six. Yeah, some shit's funny, dude.

SPEAKER_06 24:13

What's a what's a big like? Did do you associate your the number of haws that you will tweet, Thorb, since C obviously doesn't play this game with how not how funny something actually is, but but I guess how much it actually makes you laugh. Like if you're just kind of giving out a courtesy ha, maybe you didn't even smirk or smile.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

But if something actually made you laugh out loud that a friend texted, I'm probably gonna give four or five ha's if if so if something actually makes me laugh out loud, I will usually tell that person I literally just laughed out loud because like because sometimes sometimes you know I I think something's funny and I might just smirk at it or something. But if I actually laugh out loud, I'm probably gonna let you know, like, well done, you know.

SPEAKER_06 24:56

When does it go from a ha to an emoji, like a crying, laughing face?

SPEAKER_04 25:01

If I recently used a ha ha, then I can't double ha ha, then you just switch it out with the emoji or or lmao. You know, you're not gonna get any of that out of C.

SPEAKER_06 25:10

I tell you, no, no, it is emotionless on on text.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

No, I just want to give an actual reaction. Like, that's not a reaction, that's a description of a reaction. What if you reaction to laughter? You never laughed before? No, but I might say like I legitimately laughed out loud. I might type that out because I think that's the queryest thing to do. He said something funny.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

Yeah, you you you text like how my dad used to, but now my dad discovered emojis, and that guy's a fucking lunatic now. So it's just 17 emojis and all the emojis are borderline disrespectful.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

You're you're not putting the time necessary in to actually like say what you're what what you need to say, acknowledge.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

You know how when you type a word and then the emoji that's correlated with that will pop up next to it. But say yes, somebody you know what I'm talking about. No, yeah, okay. If you type in like a ship, if you type in ship, it'll be a ship next to it. Yeah, my dad loves that shit. He will never say the word anymore, he will only use the emojis. It's bad.

SPEAKER_06 26:15

Well, so I it was only uh tell me if I'm remembering this wrong. I feel like it was only in the last like two years that we had this technological advancement where now you could respond to texts with an emoji, where like you could send something and I could give it specifically a thumbs up as opposed to just writing a thumbs up in the chat. You know what I mean? I feel like that's a that's that's still a fairly recent development over the last couple of years. But do you remember kind of at what point it started to feel like an obligation? Like when it happened, when it first happened, I started see seeing people do it. I thought it was just a a nuisance. It was like it was like another way to kind of have the last word in a conversation. Like, I'm yeah, this conversation's kind of over. I don't really need to say anything, but I'm gonna at least acknowledge what you said so I don't leave you hanging. So I'm gonna give you a thumbs up on that, and then we're done. That kind of thing. And now it's just completely jump the shark. Everybody is responding with a heart, a thumbs up, or whatever, thumbs down, or whatever it is, to every fucking text you'll find all of them. Every text gets a reaction, it's too much.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

In a group chat, it's bad, but I think an individual text, I think it's great because if you don't want to say anything back, you can just give it a little like, give it a little thumbs up. I'm a big emphasize guy. You know, if somebody says something I really like, I'll I'll I'll double exclamation point that shit. Let them know. Let them know I like that.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

That would be the one that I don't mind because that an exclamation point or double exclamation point is something that like is in like on a keyboard, you know what I mean? Like it's like something you can you can like type that's kind of says something, but like a smiley face or a picture. It's like, what are we in like fourth grade? Like, what are we doing? Just put some time into it.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

This guy hates texting man.

SPEAKER_06 28:04

I can't believe I even tell. I'm just gonna start texting you directly, Thor. I feel now I feel like we're bothering Con we'll be texting.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

That's the thing. Yeah, I'll be I'll be talking to C like just be throwing some stuff out there, joking around. I'm like, I don't even know, I don't know if he likes any of this.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah, that's a good point. I didn't realize that might be uh yeah, could be due to the turnoff. Yeah, that's that's that's my bad. I'll try to fix that, but I'm not gonna fix it with emojis or lols or lm ao.

SPEAKER_04 28:31

Just add another ha on the ha ha, and then that's not happening.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Well, that's three ha that's a ha ha ha.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

Well, no, no, add another ha to your ha. Okay, make it a ha no, it's just a single ha. I mean, I just I wait, shot, approach, pro shot, pro shot, pro shot. And I it's like just off the green. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_06 28:52

I have no idea what from the last 10 or 15 minutes SPJ is going to use as a promo on social media for this show. Something we'll figure it out. Could be a ha, could be something with a ha ha.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Uh, I don't know what the so stiffless in court. Give me an opinion on the afro man trial. Uh, I don't even know what that is, and I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_04 29:12

Is it because he got high? Uh when because I got high guy. Is that him? Oh, is that who that is? Yeah, yeah. What's the trial about?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Uh you guys not have you guys not seen this?

SPEAKER_06 29:21

No, no. Well, first off, welcome SPJ and his new haircut to the show.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Oh, hi, new haircut. New hair.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Hello, hello. Still not to bug you guys. Um, but this is you're never bugging us. Oh, thank you. This is probably the greatest. When we're done and with the show, be do yourselves, but all of you guys and everyone listening, if you don't know what this is, go watch this. So basically, Afro Man, yes, because I got high guy. Long story short, got um wrongfully his house got uh like checked by the police, and so they busted his door down, went in with like guns, and like went through everything, all of his shit. That ended up being a false claim, and so they kind of like went through his house unnecessarily. So then what he did is he used that footage and then made like a defamation type of song talking about how the guy sucks, like he like banged his wife, and like all this type of thing. It's it's hilarious. But then the cops from the from the place that did this stuff sued him, counter-sued him for defamation because of all the things that they said that he said. So then he took them to court for that and won the trial based upon the fact that he has the right to freedom of speech, and like everything that they're saying is basically bullshit. That's like the very Cliff Notes version. The songs are awesome. Go watch all of it when we're out of here. It's incredible, like 15 minutes of your time. Um but it is I didn't know Afro Man was still making new music.

SPEAKER_04 30:42

I had no is he besides the police music?

SPEAKER_02 30:45

I don't think so, but this is definitely gonna put him back on the map for sure.

SPEAKER_06 30:49

Does Afro Man have a nice house?

unknown 30:52

Who knows?

SPEAKER_06 30:53

I mean, he's made some money. I I just I remember like Colt 45 and Because I Got High, and some of those like that. I mean, those were popular when I was in college. Yeah, but I would venture to say a solid 20 years.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

In my guess would be as a as the music guy here, is he probably didn't own nearly any of those songs, so I don't know how nice his house would be, to be honest with you. Uh maybe it's all right, it's probably good. I don't know how anybody makes money today. Tell me about it. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

How was that Spotify check last month?

SPEAKER_04 31:29

I don't know. I don't really pay attention to money or anything. You know what I mean? Go on.

SPEAKER_06 31:36

I think we just figured out. Whatever happens, happens.

SPEAKER_04 31:39

You know what I mean? You know, whatever happens, happens. See, I could be getting I'm one of the people that don't that like I don't check my like what's going on, the activity of my somebody could be robbing me blind for the last like six years. I'd have no idea.

SPEAKER_06 31:53

I mean, you did pay like a mortgage or rent or something, right? Like you you you live in, you know, like between walls under a roof.

SPEAKER_04 32:02

Yeah, but like it's gone already, you know. Like it just goes, it just goes, man. It's all everything's automatic. I don't know what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

I I'm kind of the same way. I don't like I don't like track my money like I should. Fortunately, I have somebody uh who does uh for me. Uh uh uh my brother Abe and uh and my wife Gigi. Um shout out Abe. Uh but I feel like with Spotify and with like some of like the the work you do there, I I'd I'd kind of want to know like month by month, are my downloads or my listens going up or down? And I feel like the check will obviously would reflect that, right?

SPEAKER_04 32:40

Sure, yeah, you would think that you would think I would care about that. Yeah. Um seems logical, yeah. Why not? Yeah, yeah, but in my opinion, right? Whatever happens, happens, man. You know, I mean, I'm not gonna like if if if the check was like down one month, I'm not gonna be like, oh, let me make a different type of song that maybe does better, or like I'm just gonna do what I do, and then hopefully, as I do what I do, everything goes up anyway, you know? Because things just happen naturally. You know what I'm saying, Sia? You get it?

SPEAKER_01 33:10

I do kind of get it.

SPEAKER_06 33:12

I can't criticize it. How could I not want to see that?

SPEAKER_04 33:18

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_06 33:19

Why not? You got it? I would I would hope it's a music video. Do we have Thorb's videos? Speaking of which, I think I sent them.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Yeah, here we go. We're gonna play the uh Afroman model.

SPEAKER_06 33:32

Oh, Afroman. Looks like a candy game.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

Oh, Afroman.

SPEAKER_06 33:37

Holy shit, that's what he looks like. I can't hear him though. It looks great. It looks great. Yeah, I mean it's this is this is like the uh Carolina Mike. Holy shit, what do you look like back in the day? I sort of picture him looking like George Clinton in the Parliament Funkadelic back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

All right, so we I I don't think we have the sound to it.

SPEAKER_06 34:05

Boo.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Boo. We do have the sound though, I think, and maybe SPJ is gonna continue to try that, but I kind of want to talk. I mean, we could talk a little NFL free agency because Thorb, you had something to say about uh the Miami Dolphins. And maybe I mean Do we have that? Yeah, let's give it a thumbs up.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Look, let me tell you sad Dolphin fans why trading Jalen Waddle is a fantastic thing, okay? Point number one. What the fuck are we gonna do with Jalen Model in the next two to three years? Win an extra one to two games because he's on the team? Who fucking cares? I hate to break it to you guys. If he is that good and he went to somewhere else for that same money, you're gonna fucking hate yourself, right? You're taking a chance that he is really good. Who the fuck cares if he is? We talk anyway. Take a shot on the QB that might be good to everybody.

SPEAKER_04 36:00

That got spitting, man. I got it.

SPEAKER_06 36:05

Huh? I said thoughts on your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 36:08

Thoughts on my thoughts, yeah. Uh that guy really he he's on top of things. He he he kind of knows what he's talking about. It's a I dolphin fans drive me crazier than any other fan base, I think, because I don't know. Well, probably just because I see him the most and I see the worst of them, you know. Um they're just so upset about everything. Like and yes, I get Jalen Waddle is a very likable, good player. What I'll say it, what the fuck are we gonna do with him? Who cares that he's gone? You gotta first. Once again, I'm not the believer that he that he's a real number one receiver. So you got a first and a third round pick for him. So you can't do much better than I don't care if the pick's 30th, everyone's like that's basically a second. No, a second is basically a second, you idiot. So it's it's I just don't get why everyone's so like this is a rebuild. We suck, we suck, we need to do this type of shit to get better. And if a chan's gotta go, he's gotta go too. I don't think he is, and there's reports that are saying he isn't. That's exactly what somebody who would trade the guy would say. So, you know, we'll see about that.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Yeah, you can't create leverage for your trade piece by saying, like, we're gonna trade him. You lose leverage that way.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:19

So, what do you guys think about it? Only one part of it, and and I don't know. I mean, if nothing else, the dolphins I think made out pretty well, given the fact that you know it was a bit of an overpay for uh for Waddle pardon me. But the the Malik Willis part, I feel like I liked the Malik Willis signing at the time. I thought it made and you're right, like the money isn't crazy or anything like that. But what it does feel like it's a a little unnecessary because you're bringing him in, other Nate, who in theory is gonna be there, you got almost nothing around him, you know it's gonna be a bad year. That's all fine. Like, teams tank, teams rebuild, all collect draft picks, all that stuff, but like why not just see if Quinn Yours can play? Why not just hand him the team and let him go out and get his ass beat and he can't play?

SPEAKER_00 38:10

That's that's why he's a backup quarterback. I can explain.

SPEAKER_04 38:13

I'll explain this the best way I can, right? Okay now think about it like this, sir. If Malik Willis is really good, then the Dolphins have a really good quarterback. That's cool. That's it. That's that's the end of it.

SPEAKER_06 38:28

I don't see how he even can be really good in this situation.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

What do we sign for three years? Right? Keep them all three. You this you're gonna you use these picks to actually build a good team, and then you can evaluate them in the next two years after this. Like this year is a wash, who cares? But you'll be able to, even when like somebody gets drafted and they play on a really shitty team, you see signs, right? So you're if you see a few signs this year, and then we actually build and develop a team next year. Hey, you see more signs. He actually looks really good in a few games. Cool, and then in this process with getting these picks, you're still drafting QBs anyway, unless you're morons, which they probably won't. So you're you're gonna figure it out. That just taking a shot on him. If he went anywhere else and he starts bawling the fuck out, you're gonna regret just not giving him this measly amount of money that we gave a QB.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

So, my main issue with it, because I don't mind the Malik Willis signing, but like if you want Malik Willis to succeed in any way, shape, or form, I think you have to give him one or two people to pass to. I mean, the offensive line is already a problem. You do have a running back, but I mean, have you seen who they have at receiver? You can't like you might you might draft a rookie receiver and and and that might work out for you. Listen to these receivers, Malik Washington, who's basically got an average depth of target of like two yards and really can't do anything past that.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

Less than that, probably.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Theo Weis Jr., who I I don't even know who that is, which is crazy because I I feel like I should know everybody. Jalen Tolbert, who's trying to resurrect his career, probably not gonna work out. Taj Washington, two to at well. Speaking of resurrecting a career, like you don't even have a wide receiver three on this team. Like, no joke. This is the worst receiving core in the NFL, and I don't even have to look at the other 31. I am absolutely 100% sure that consensus would be this is the worst receiving core. So you bring in your quarterback, and you don't even have one single reliable receiver to throw to. And even if you get a good one in the draft because of these draft picks, he's still gonna be a rookie, he's still gonna need time. I feel feel like the one thing you could have done for Malik Willis is keep at least one reliable receiver in Jalen Waddle. That's it, that's all you got to do.

SPEAKER_06 40:28

And eight chan's gonna have 200 catches.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Well, that's the thing. Like, what's this offense gonna be? It's gonna be like two yard outs to eight chan and Malik Washington and whoever's playing tight end.

SPEAKER_04 40:37

Yeah, but what would it what do we need the offense to be?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

I would like six games with that, maybe. But at a certain point, if you're gonna bring in a new quarterback, you have to at least help him on some baseline foundational level. And if you have zero receivers that you can count on to either stretch the field or just be reliable, then it's not about wins or losses at that point. It's are we putting Malik Willis in a position to succeed? And the answer is very clearly no. When you get rid of Jalen Waddle, and this is who you have behind him.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

We wouldn't have done that shit anyway. I mean, like, so at least you can just draft people to I I think this year's a wash, right? And I think even he knows that. So, like this year, you're like, hey, like we we're giving you nothing. My bad, you know. So then next year, that's what that's when we get to work and we could really see what you got, and which I'm totally cool with. I don't, I don't, I don't see any reason what's waddle, like 28 in keeping in keeping him to the point where you would have to pay him probably even more money, actually, definitely even more money, and he's older. Instead, you get a first and a third round pick to actually build a team. Like, I I I'm totally fine with it.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah, I mean, the the draft picks, it does make sense. I just wish they had like maybe even in free agency, just got one veteran, doesn't even have to be a number one receiver. Like, bring somebody over he's it's late. Two two at wells, a wide receiver four. Like, he's not even a wide receiver three.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

He's like a yeah, they all yeah, they're all really bad. It's gonna be pretty funny. Maybe maybe we don't.

SPEAKER_06 42:08

I wonder if if you're Malik Willis, how are you feeling right now? Like you you you knew you were all in Miami and and it's and it wasn't a good situation, but you probably felt like it was a little bit better of a situation. Yeah, I mean, obviously actually, yeah, he's probably feeling pretty good. No, I mean got fine, he got his money, and obviously he'll get to start, which at the end of the day is ultimately the goal. I just mean I don't know what his market was, but there were there were a handful of teams that were looking for new starting quarterbacks. Not to say he could have gone to a handful of teams, but he probably could have gone to the Jets, you know, before Geno Smith wound up there. Would that be a better situation than a rebuilding Dolphins team? At least you got Brees Hall and some stuff around you a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

The Dolphins did a really good job with. I mean, I I think I know Malik Willis isn't some like all-star, but I mean, they're not paying him much per year. It's like 22 million in change per year for what's going to be a lot of money back.

SPEAKER_04 42:58

That's yeah, which which at the end of the day, once again, it's worth a shot. Like, I get the whole you want to have you want to have things around him and stuff, but like I think for this year, like who who cares, man? I like, yes, it sucks for him and it sucks for evaluating him, but you're not just evaluating this year. Like, yes, this could like maybe hurt his development, but like he already developed, theoretically speaking, in Green Bay, so he still has all of that. It's just now you got to build the stuff around him, and we should be able to get one, if not two, receivers in the draft now. If we really wanted to, if we wanted to go that route, which I don't even know if we need to, but I don't know. This is the happiest I've been about dolphins in a while, and they're and they suck. This is the worst they'll ever look, and I'm the happiest.

SPEAKER_06 43:39

But you feel like there's actually a path to something.

SPEAKER_04 43:41

There's a path to something because, like, usually we do this like half ass rebuild where it's like we're kind of rebuilding, but we also want to show the fans that we can win seven games with the 15th, like a bunch of assholes. Yeah, so this is better. I like this.

SPEAKER_06 43:54

So, said cap money this year for Miami, it's hilarious. 175 million dollars.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

Yeah, man. That's that's crazy. That actually is crazy. Is that a record?

SPEAKER_04 44:06

It's gotta be around it. It has to be set all those type of records, man. We set all those. We got those.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Visaw saying uh, you know, he's following some coaches in the GM to Green Bay, which is a good point. Also, he gets and he's also saying he gets to live in Miami, which is kind of awesome. Also, no state tax. So you're getting that 67 mil that he's getting uh total 45 million dollar signing bonus. You don't get uh state taxed on that, so that's that's pretty great.

SPEAKER_04 44:33

Yeah, I'm gonna probably live next door to him in like a couple months.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Are you what preview is we have an update and even a small update? No, dang it. Why'd you say that?

SPEAKER_04 44:44

Well, I did talk to I did talk to Mike yesterday, and like he's like, he's like apparently he's like looking at places for me already, and like I we didn't even talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 44:51

So I mean, I mean it seem seems like what what would you what I don't know what you can even tell us. What would you do if you went to Florida to do stuff with Pullwax?

SPEAKER_04 45:02

What would I do for them basically?

SPEAKER_06 45:04

Yeah, like what would you be going there for?

SPEAKER_04 45:05

A little bit of everything, so like mostly just overall like content, and then also break packs for them as well, like on live stream. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

And is is the pull for that for them that you have like a pretty big following on Instagram and TikTok? And so you you'll bring big one, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

Yeah, uh, I that's obviously a big part of it. So, like, if you notice, the even the post we just played that I did, I collabed with them on it. So it's mostly it's mostly just and like they weren't even a part of that. That's just my my thing, but like I don't know, like I think that video even has like 120,000 views on like Instagram and stuff. So like they just want us to be aligned in whatever way that means, and to just be like linked up and then also have me breaking packs for them because like I don't know, they just like the overall and like no disrespect to anybody they they have there, they're like the most knowledgeable people ever. But they he uh what he said is he kind of wants like a lot more personality in the space because um, which I guess makes sense with me. I'm not saying I have a good personality, I'm just saying I'm a guy, and I'll be there. If you have one good or bad, if you got one, it's there, it's there. Some people like it, maybe I don't know. So yeah, uh, I was doing a bunch of stuff, but um, yeah, they're just good dudes and they just want me there.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

So Adam, didn't that sound like I asked Thorb if he had an update, even a little one, and he said no. Didn't that sound like a bit of an update?

SPEAKER_06 46:28

You know what it is? We had to press him. We had to we had to ask a follow-up. Yeah, I think we had to give him the theoretical. Well, if you went, what would you be doing, Thorb? And all of a sudden it spilled out like he was on the therapist couch.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

It did sound like an update, didn't it? Yeah, I mean, I I get what I know what you're doing, Thorb. You don't want to be like, Oh, it looks like I might be doing it, and then all of a sudden two months from now, we're like, Hey, what happened? You're like, I don't know. Uh just it didn't work out. Like, I get that part of it, but it does sound like a weird thing, man.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

There's uh there's a lot of things. I've told you things, see you, that could have happened that never happened, and then also that probably wouldn't happen that happened in like a day. There's uh, I never know what's gonna happen, so I just don't I don't look into things too deeply with what he's definitely not paying attention to money. No, yeah, no, no, never that.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

I get it.

SPEAKER_06 47:14

I I hope it happens for you. Seems like a good crew over at Pole Wax.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

It does, and then so when we go down to Florida, Adam and I, which you know, I I tend to at least a few times a year, if not more. We can't hang out. Oh, damn it.

SPEAKER_06 47:27

Yeah, don't don't get ahead of yourself. We cannot see. Have you two ever seen each other in person?

SPEAKER_01 47:32

No, no, wow. Uh Thorb, now that he's rich from golf betting over the last two weeks, he wants to plan like a golf trip. I'm kind of rich off golf betting too.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

If Sun Jay holds this, can we please go? I'm dead serious. Actually, Pam, former guest on the show, uh, said she's off till Tuesday and wants to golf in Texas. I was like, here's the thing don't live in Texas. That's the best thing to do. Yeah, so uh you we can go there. We could sleep on her couch together, maybe separate, depending on what you want to do, and then we can go golfing with Pam.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Uh, that's an idea. I mean, there's some golf courses around the DC area. Kenny Kim lives in this area. We can do something with with Kenny and and whoever else.

SPEAKER_04 48:15

You're just trying to make it so you don't travel and then I have to travel or or Florida.

SPEAKER_06 48:20

Well, I'm doing that. Are there any uh New England courses that you like by any chance?

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Fuck no, it's nothing in New England he likes, period. Wow, doesn't even like the clam chowder.

SPEAKER_06 48:28

Yeah, all right, out. I bet Connecticut's got some nice courses. They do, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

In June.

SPEAKER_06 48:36

Yeah, not now in March, not this weekend. That is true. We must go somewhere warm. SPJ says Thorb, when I'm in Florida, can we hang? Well, SPJ, here's the thing for sure. He's not in Florida, he's gotta get he's gonna get to Florida. Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

I was when you I was listening, I know.

SPEAKER_01 48:56

Yeah, I was here.

SPEAKER_06 48:58

I was here, I saw that part.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Hey, uh, there's one other episode.

SPEAKER_06 49:02

We've got all that long hair, the ears have been exposed. You can hear more now. Got ears good now. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

What actually can you? I want to talk one other thing about NFL free agency before we switch gears, and it's it's the Kyler Murray, JJ McCarthy situation, which I very much think is a big time situation. But SPJ, I I'm curious what prompted the haircut because it's such a signature thing for you. That long, that long, beautiful flow.

SPEAKER_04 49:27

Did it hurt? Like did it like it hurt, did not like painful, like did it hurt like your inside.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

Emotionally, so I've had long hair for like eight years. Um, and I actually had hair like this for a large portion of my life, and then I wanted to have long hair, so I grew it out and obviously you know didn't want to cut it for a long time. Um, I don't know. I I've kind of had like I've been thinking about it for the last like five or six months, and I definitely wanted to make sure that I knew that I wanted to get a haircut. Uh it obvious honestly, see it, it got to the point where it was just a humongous pain in my ass all the time. Like it would be really nice when it was like freshly washed and looked good that day, and then I would sleep, and the next day, like I immediately would want to either throw a hat on or put it in a bun. So, like, I wasn't actually enjoying having the long hair anymore. It was like just a thing that was a pain in my ass most of the time. So, like it got to the point where I was like, I'm over this, I don't want to look like this anymore. And like I can always grow it back if I want to. Uh, got the seal of approval from my wife. However, she did tell me if I cut my beard that the divorce papers would be in the mail.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

So I was gonna ask if the beard is next.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

Yeah, no, no, this will never go away. Uh, it'll I mean it will go away in stretches, but like this was the one if you shave your beard. Yeah, thank you. Exactly. Exactly how she feels. I would honestly take it a little more personally from you, to be honest, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Figure that. No, but yeah, that's kind of the it didn't go too short though.

SPEAKER_04 50:45

You still got you still got some flow.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Yeah, it's very flowy still.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Yeah, there's there's and I mean I didn't even I didn't even take a shower or do anything with it this morning uh because I didn't think I was gonna be on camera this much until later.

SPEAKER_04 50:55

But it kind of pisses me off that you just said that you didn't need to add that that just looks like that regularly. Yeah, it's a work on it a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

You should have seen the thing Adam texted me when I sent them the picture, uh, and then what I responded. But I'll I'll let you guys uh imagine that. I'm actually I'm trying to remember.

SPEAKER_06 51:12

Who's the star? There's probably really out on you, bro. There's a lot, it's a lot of text. Really out. It's a lot of texts, there's a lot of group threads, and I say a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

I'm looking up to see if we have a line on me. We will have this line probably after the draft on who's the starting quarterback for the Vikings. Um, do we want Kyler? It's it's gotta be Kyler, right? It has to be Kyler.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

Why would Kyler Murray go there if they didn't wink wink nudge nudge him that he's the starting quarterback?

SPEAKER_01 51:53

Well, also, why would they even go after Kyler Murray, knowing that he's been a starter his entire career, if not for the fact that he was going to be like, I think on both sides, you're looking at people who are like, We're not rolling out JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_06 52:05

Well, listen, they're they're gonna sell this management GM coaches, like they're gonna sell this as a QB competition in camp. Of course, in preseason, absolutely, just because they kind of have to, because they overdrafted JJ, who everyone could well, not everyone, obviously, but I I felt, and what the fuck do I know that this guy was not gonna be a good pro. You could see it when he was at Michigan.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

Almost everyone felt that.

SPEAKER_06 52:26

Yeah, I and and yet there he was taken 10th overall, or whatever it was by the Vikings, and obviously misses your it, it's it's hard. We we've talked about this on any given wager recently as well. The the dichotomy, you know, you take the guy 10th overall, he misses his rookie season due to injury, finally plays in his second year, has some good moments, goes over 500, but also to the eye, you can just kind of tell he blows and you need to upgrade the position. And clearly, there's just not that it's been said, at least not out loud in the public. But I mean, how in the world are you gonna keep Justin Jefferson from asking for a trade if JJ McCarthy is your starting quarterback? So I think you're making this move for Kyler Murray as much to appease J, you know, the other JJ, you know, as anything else, because that's the worst case scenario with all of this is if Jefferson says, I can't do it anymore, I want out.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

This is the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario already happened. You had a super bowl ready team, and they're not going to be Super Bowl ready by the time you have like a legitimate quarterback, a legitimate starting quarterback, and Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy are neither of those things. That's for your take here.

SPEAKER_06 53:34

Didn't feel fluky to you. You thought they were a super bowl ready team?

SPEAKER_01 53:37

They it's it's not about thinking, they they clearly were a super bowl ready team with an average to above average quarterback in Sam Dome. Yes, you can make the argument he he can't win the big moment. I guess you can't make that argument anymore. But at the time you can make that argument, but that's not why you get rid of a quarterback and put somebody in that has no experience. You were good, you were great on defense and you were very good on offense with Sam Darnold. If you're going to move on from Sam Darnold, you don't get a brand new guy that hasn't played on a Super Bowl ready team. That is one of the biggest. It's one thing to overdraft a first round pick at quarterback, it's another thing to do that when you have a Super Bowl ready team. I think that was the most negligent thing a franchise has done at the quarterback position in a decade or two. Thorpe, go.

SPEAKER_04 54:20

Wasn't JJ like now everyone probably says this. Like, I remember his rookie year before the injury, he was like the talk of the town in camp. And like, so maybe what they saw led them to believe that like they had a guy, but that I don't know. I I never thought much of him either. I also think Kyler Murray stinks too. So he does, but but he's probably more fit to start gives you hope, gives you a little bit of hope, maybe, and can appease JJ, maybe, even though I think I don't know. Kyler did he fed Hopkins a lot, um, and did well with him, but he was horrible with Marvin Harrison. Um, he's no Jay, he's no Jacoby Bursett, let me tell you that. He's not a dog. Uh also while we're kind of on the the QB uh on different team topic here, when there is a line on Tua starting games in Atlanta, can you guys please let me know so I can absolutely fucking mash that? He's definitely gonna start games. He's not he's not giving the job back, he's not giving the job back. I'm telling if he's half of what he was, he's not giving that job to Penix. Well, he won like 65% of the games with the Miami Dolphins. That team sucks.

SPEAKER_06 55:31

Then if you believe that there was even more negligence in Atlanta than there was in in Minnesota between the Penix to Cousins situation, or really cousins to Penix to now this situation where you give up on Penix that quickly for Tua of all people.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

I think the Falcons situation made a lot more sense, though. Uh get drafting uh a quarterback when you had a like a 37-year-old Kirk Cousins. I I think that made a little bit more sense, and it also wasn't a team that was coming off like a 14 and three season or whatever happened uh with Minnesota. Ohio State is so I have TCU plus two and a half. I think Ohio State has now taken the lead.

SPEAKER_04 56:05

I'm gonna get a high bracket. You want me to hop on that with you, see you? Maybe put some luck on it, put some good vibes on it.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

They're getting outscored 27 to 11 in the second half. Not till I touch it. What do you need? Yeah, plus two. I need plus two and I need TCU plus two and a half. Yeah, we can get you there. We can get you there. Let me just put the score here. What's the score right now? 51 to 50 Ohio State. And that's they're dominating the second half right now.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

It's the exact spread. So basically, you know, the game just started. It's the pre-game. I got you, see you. We're we're locked and loaded. We'll we'll bring you to the top. I'm hot right now.

SPEAKER_06 56:39

I'm not you are hot right now. You guys don't even he just put a grand on that effortlessly.

SPEAKER_04 56:44

I didn't even think about it. Actually, I gotta make sure I didn't hit the another zero. Yeah, make sure I did not put a grand. Kind of scared me. That is. If uh for the audio listeners, he just put a scary picture.

SPEAKER_06 56:58

I just want Ohio State to win. I don't care if they win by one or two, that doesn't matter to me. Well, that's too damn bad because TCU's about to blow them the fuck out for the remainder of this game, okay?

SPEAKER_00 57:07

Seven minutes, seven minutes, seven minutes to glory.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

I am the cover, two and a half.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Thorb, did you fill out brackets? And who do you who do who's your team?

SPEAKER_04 57:16

I filled out my bracket on my drive home because SPJ put it in the chat. That does not sound safe.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Oh, I didn't it wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

It wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

So who do you have?

SPEAKER_04 57:26

I don't know. I was just I don't really care about Marshmallows at all if we're being honest. You didn't do it, but I enjoy watching the end of it. Um who do I have to win? I have who Shaggy told me to bet because I put a lot of money on Arizona. Correct, correct. And I also put a little sprinky sprinkle on um who see it told me to bet, which was Iowa State, correct?

SPEAKER_00 57:46

That's right.

SPEAKER_04 57:48

That's my guy.

SPEAKER_06 57:49

So you didn't you didn't join the bracket contest?

SPEAKER_01 57:52

I did, I did. I think I'm in. I had some trouble like figuring out if I was like actually entered. Um, but I'm pretty sure I'm in it.

SPEAKER_06 57:59

You guys must have a pretty big sports line one, too. I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

No, it's not that well. There's different sports line, there's different like ones, but uh our sports line one, it's it's like 300 and I don't know, maybe three four hundred people. It's not that big size, it's pretty big.

SPEAKER_06 58:14

SPJ, because I know we we welcomed our viewers and listeners into uh into the bracket. This is not like staff only bracket. How many people do we have in here?

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Let me double check.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

When did the game start? Did I get in in time?

SPEAKER_06 58:27

They started today at 12 15. So hopefully I got in at 12, I think. Nice 12 15 Eastern time.

SPEAKER_04 58:35

I uh if I win, that would suck for you guys because I didn't I was not I was clicking.

SPEAKER_02 58:43

I was clicking a lot of upsets, let me tell you the jokes write themselves. 69 entries.

SPEAKER_06 58:48

Nice, nice, nice. I uh I took UConn actually as uh a little you know a team that I believe in that I certainly think can win a championship, but also I knew it was gonna be a little bit different and wasn't gonna be, you know, super shocking. Sure. Sure. Let me see, let me see where I have UConn getting booted out of there. I mean, they could they could go down as early as the sweet 16. Like it's they're gonna go down before that. Well, I I hope not. First game. First game. Going down today or tomorrow, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

I don't see it. Do you like Nebraska on 11? College basketball guy, right?

SPEAKER_01 59:32

Say it again.

SPEAKER_04 59:33

You're not a big college basketball guy, are you?

SPEAKER_01 59:35

Uh, I mean, I don't bet it a ton. Um, I I love March Madness and I like doing brackets. I didn't do as many this year, but yeah, I like college basketball. I just don't, it's just not a sport I bet a lot. I don't really enjoy watching my bets. I like watching basketball in general, but like betting basketball, I don't enjoy the process of watching those bets play out like I do in the NFL or even baseball be torture or golf for for that mindset.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:02

March Madness would be the worst.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:03

Oh, it's hard watching college basketball in general, like or just any college sport that you have a lot of money on, like, is the just the dumbest shit. Like, even I I bet a lot on I actually really enjoy college football now. Um, and I never did, but betting on those games and watching what happens in those games is infuriating.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:21

I just think that I have to so passionately like chastise teenagers for things that don't go my way. Fuck them kids, man. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

Ohio State's up five now. I know if you listen to the podcast, you're like, I already know the final score, but yeah, this is a disaster. It didn't work 32 to 11 in the second half. Disaster seems strong.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:41

You're only up three. Don't worry about it. They're gonna cover it. It's your first bet of the day. You got them in a parlay or something?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

I actually put them in a parlay with uh with Troy, Louisville, and Wisconsin. Louisville, but I have them straight up. I like that's just a silly like$25 parlay. Uh, I have them straight up for a decent amount of money.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:00

Plus, you want to you want to know a goofy bet that I place today? We'll see how it goes, but you know, if it if it goes all day, all night, we'll find out. But so everybody is, as I'm sure you guys know, but for people that are not as familiar with the college basketball streets, one thing that everybody talks about for day one, day two of the tournament are first half unders. Okay, you know, teams are you know, it messes with the body clock depending on on what time of day, you know, it's like pre-noon tips for some of these kids, and you know, just angst and tournament jitters and yada yada yada. So a lot of people will individually play first half unders, just bet it blind. And our friends over at SGPN put out a a tweet earlier today, last night, whatever it was, about how that has been again just a blindly bet profitable thing, all but like one of the last 10 years or something like that. So people feel free as you listen right now, jump on and just blindly bet unders. But what I decided to do as a little bit of a uh I don't know, I'll call it a safety cushion. So I parlaid all 16 games today with the first half alt under maxing the alt that I could get to. Okay, so this so it's not like an insane number when you think about the fact that it's 16 games because all of these are like minus 500 bets, you know. But it's 16 legs at 13 to one, but still, you know, decent number if you put enough on it, right? So, anyway, first two are in sweat-free, and uh and the other two are in progress, and you know that's a fun idea. So, how many do I plan to do it again tomorrow, whether it hits today or not?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

How many points can you move it? Is it like 11, 12 points?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:45

Uh well, I'll I'll pull one up just as an example. I'll just look at one random one because it's probably all fairly comparable. So, starting as we sit here now, starting in less than an hour, you have Duke in Siena. So the first half under actual total is scrolling for it, hang on. Uh 65 and a half. So I moved it to I moved it all the way up to 74 and a half.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:16

So that's many as I want that. What nine, nine, ten points?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Yeah. I'll do it. Whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:26

I'll I'll send you guys the link when I build it again tomorrow. I don't think I can do that. Send you the one that I have for today because it's on the way. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

I don't mind that. 13 to 1.

unknown 1:03:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

Just a fun little thing. Didn't yeah, didn't put a mortgage payment on it, you know. I think I think you're gonna lose two legs of those. That that's my guess. Is that so? Well, you'll two of the teams get off from the the from the three-point line, and it just just crumbles because of that.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:53

Yeah, it I mean you'll lose the last one, it'll be the last one.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Yeah, well, if it's the last one you can hedge. I could hedge a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:00

I could hedge. That's true. That's on the table, it's available. I would do I would do this. I would do this tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:05

Yeah, that's the the beauty of several leg parlays, is if they're staggered, you can just like monitor the the first 80% of them, and then the last 20%, you can be like, all right, how do I want to play this?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:14

Yeah, my NFL parlays, I do the one and four o'clock games with all of them, and then one one night play, just in case. Just in case I want to get frisky with a hedge.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:23

I got uh I got very lucky on a uh I I don't hockey is not a sport that I will consider myself like a professional handicapper of as compared to maybe some other sports, but I certainly will bet it plenty just for my own entertainment and whatever. So I had a three-legg parlay the other day, and one of the legs was and they were all money line. One of the legs, no problem, easy. It was like a 3-1 win or something like that. Another one, there were two other games, obviously. One of them was the Bruins and Canadiens game, and I had Montreal kind of an emotional hedge, and I just thought they were gonna win, they were the favorites anyway. And it ends up going overtime, and the other game is looking good for me. Up, I want to say it was up by two goals the team that I had, so I felt good about that leg. So I decided even in the middle of this parlay, I'm gonna hedge on on this game, and I'll just it goes to overtime, you know. Whatever I can, I'll I'll throw my initial wager on the brew, and so at least I'm getting my money back. And so Montreal winds up winning in overtime, so I gave that money away, fine, whatever, but the parlay lives. Goes to the other game, and I noticed the other game is a 3 2 game, but it's got like two minutes left. So I put away the phone, I go to put the kids to bed, and I'm like, I'm gonna win this, I'm fine, like they'll get an empty netter or something like that. I go back and I check later, I cash the parlay, but the way that it happened was they gave up a freaking goal in the last two minutes, and that game also went to Overtime. And it just so happens that the team I had, I don't even remember who it was now, like the Lightning or somebody, uh won it in OT. But I would have been sitting, I I wound up just sort of, I mean it was it was fortuitous because I probably would have given another half of it back on a hedge if I had been actually paying attention to what that bet was going to be. So it goes back to the thing we were talking about earlier about just you know, sometimes it's just better to be blissfully ignorant and not following along with the sweat.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

Yeah, well, hedging what how what at what point did you hedge how much time was left in that two-goal game?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:36

Um it was the third period, but it was early third, something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

Yeah, because that that's that's a little reckless on your part. I'm not gonna lie. This seems like it was your fault.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:49

Well, no, but I hedged the other game. I didn't hedge that game. Well, I know, but then you hedged the game. Yeah, I'm well, I had to because the other game was in overtime. I didn't have a choice.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Hey Thorb, uh Sung Jay ended up at seven under. Saw it, and it looks like the afternoon guys are are in again. Jeff is there in the chat, but so far they're like really early in their rounds, but they're they're having some issues. It's not like nobody's like three under through three or anything. What do you think? You're looking at golfing. Yeah, we're going golfing.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:19

Going golfing in Austin, Texas with Pam Maldonado. TCU up one, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

345 to go. Thanks for the update, SPG. I don't have to. I really, really want that to hold because I don't make a lot of college. I made that an official play on my early ed show. I don't make a lot of official plays.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:38

This is about clout.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:40

Well, I mean, yeah, I've already lost a bet today that I've got.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:43

She is a clout caser. Yeah, I everything he does is for engagement. I assume that every like all your plays over there, you or somebody is obviously tracking, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

So yeah, so so the app over at Sportsline tracks but most of my bets, but the problem with um golf is that the app doesn't have the ability to track the golf bets because you can't input input golf bets through the app. So, like college basketball, NFL, those are all tracked, but golf bets, um, they're tracked with like our recap screen, but that's about the extent of it.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:13

So, how how are you doing, I guess, in I don't know, in 2026?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Decent. Uh, it's been really up and down. Like two weeks ago, two tournaments ago, I was five, oh, and one last week I was oh two and two. This week so far I'm oh and one.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:27

Yeah, but we know we know win-loss record doesn't matter. What about units?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Oh, I don't know what the units are right now, but generally speaking, I'm not not like throwing up throwing a bunch of juice out there. There's a lot of three balls that are plus money as well, so it it doesn't even out. I'm still like throwing some juice around a little bit, but so far it's a it's a decent year. Not great though.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:47

SPJ says I can't wait to see Sia in the no plays off polo with all the buttons buttoned. It's gonna go hard. Let's go. When is that arriving? I think it's on the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

When he's gonna when's he gonna be donning that next episode, probably the carrier pigeons taking it. I guess said it's arriving tomorrow, but uh yeah, that's damn pigeon.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:06

What what what what about the hat? He can have the polo, I'll be rocking the hat. Thorb's, I don't even Thorb. What would you get? A quarter zip? Got quarter zip, quarter zip, little q zip, or he might be full-on company men.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:19

So I know that we've already gone over an hour, we're probably getting out of here soon. Yeah, we should I don't know if we want to save this for another episode, but do you all realize that? And I've only been on Twitter since like 2017, 2018. Okay, my most viral tweet happened a week ago with the Bam Atabay thing, where I was basically like, I think because of how it ended and like the you know, missing free throws on purpose and doing the SGA thing. I I made I said, I would I know he wouldn't have done this, but if it were me, I would have considered sitting down at 81 with Kobe. And I said that would guarantee I'm mentioned with Kobe when people are talking about the record. But I was in a in a follow-up tweet right below it, I said, I'm also saying that because of how embarrassing the last three minutes of that game were. Sure. So I thought, you know, you're kind of you're still getting the record or whatever, second place or whatever, but you're also kind of like, you know, you know, taking into account the idea that maybe I, you know, this didn't run out like the best way possible. Of course, I got so much hate, but I've never you mean you talk about engagement farming. I didn't realize that was going to be that hot of a tweet, and it and I got way over a million views on that and comments and retweets. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:28

Well, I have a question. Are you guys both so old that you don't remember that we talked about this last week?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:34

Oh, I forgot. I but I don't remember him talking about it being the you guys should definitely save it for next week then and make it remote. Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

Let's do it again. Well, so what's funny? What's funny is that because you brought up the engagement farming thing that, like, that's the first thing that popped in my head. I forgot that we talked about this. We all gave our opinions. I do remember. No, it's like that's old news.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:59

Everybody go back and retweet it again. No, no, no, all about the clout, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

All about the clout.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:04

We know I've been I've been fortunate to have a few over the years, but you know what? The most ridiculous tweet that I've that I've ever had like truly go like viral by these, you know, metrics. So I had I I randomly, I think I was bored on my computer one day, and I I just wrote um describe your Twitter account in three words. Something like something like that. One of those. It was one of one of those stupid, it was yeah, one of those, like, what's your favorite movie? Like one of those dumbass tweets, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:34

I do that sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:35

I don't know. I thought so do I. They're just because like just because they're just because they're fun, but but that you don't expect them to really, but like a couple, I don't remember who, but a couple people, you know, took note, and that's all it takes, right? You just need a couple people that have gigantic audiences, and then their people start replying, and whatever. So that that tweet got seven million impressions, something like that. Some like stupid number. Uh well, this was before Elon. This was pre-like getting paid. Yeah, I'm sorry, you're right, dorb. Um, but yeah, those those those responses were coming in for a month.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:16

Well, I uh here's the update on that though, because I I I realized we were rehashing. I I you know, listen, Twitter's got a lot of people on it, and I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be surprised when I get a lot of hate and quote tweets like this guy doesn't know ball, and and I can't believe like people think I'm like some and shit today. Say it again.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:36

Is that anyone call you a piece of shit today?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Well, it's not it's not that that surprises me, it's that people are still actively, and these are like some of these are real accounts, they're not like shadow accounts where people think you know they can just say whatever they want. Real accounts were using like legitimate slurs that are like not used anymore. And again, I'm not like like I'm personally not offended by much, but I'm like, oh my god, you you like you have the like courage or the audacity to like use that word that like nobody uses anymore because it's like really frowned upon.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:07

And you got any good ones that you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:10

I can't like I I would never articulate them, but like yeah, we these are words that were said 20 years ago pretty often, and we do not use them anymore. Old white slang. I did you say old old white slang?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:23

Old white slang is the best, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

I'm not even what what does that qualify as?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:27

Like, um come on, Adam, help me out. You're old and white.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:31

Uh um stiffler says says midget, which again we're not we don't use that word, but no, way worse than that. But like in that in that in that ballpark, stiffler, like in the right direction.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:43

I I don't know if this would be one of them. Not gonna I'm not gonna say the word, even though this word used to be said all the time, even on television. But uh a couple people and responded to my Cade Cunningham thing earlier today with uh with the R word.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:57

Yeah, that was one of them. Yeah, that was one of them. Honestly, like maybe this is a me thing, and maybe like forgive me if like somebody that's listening like has used this, or maybe you should forgive yourself. Like, uh people really should not use that particular word. Like, I like if somebody uses that word like on Twitter or they use it in a gif or something, I will like like I'm ignoring that person for like the rest of time. I just feel like that is a personality flaw that like I'm not really interested in associating with.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

See, but if if you're with you boys, and nobody, nobody around the vicinity, you know what I mean? Well, like uh it's fine. If you use it in a setting of where people you don't know, you don't know anybody could be around, anybody could be listening. Watch your mouth, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:47

Well, I know is this this is a much deeper, different kind of conversation that we don't have time to have right now, and probably shouldn't have ever. But this goes back to the like, you know, can you say any word if you're just singing along to a song, Thorb? Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:02

See, I'm in the different camp of that, uh, because I'm no, I'm no all the time in that in in that reference, but um in the other one, you yeah, listen, man, let's not talk about it anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

Well, I I I will say this that that's that that is a real like that is a an extremely fair question, by the way. Because like, and I I'm not giving an answer to that question, but it's it's interesting because especially with the music, you are selling to all demographics knowing that they are going to be repeating your words and singing your words, and so yeah, you know, should that surprise you when the the the wrong demographics like I I don't know the answer to that question, but I really know it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:43

It really shouldn't. It really shouldn't. I that like because if you have a huge crowd of everyone at your concert, you're gonna expect them to just just every time like it's uh not super realistic.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

Uh okay, but but here's I I will say this, Thorb, like about with your initial comment. Like, I I don't condone it either way, but there's a big difference when you're with like two of your boys or girls or whatever the case may be, and you're in a public sphere saying something. Like, I'm I'm personally not gonna use it either way, but if you're in a public sphere using that word, it means madness. You you are so desensitized to what that word might mean to certain people that you're just willing to use it anywhere. And it's that type of like ignorance where you're you're not even cognizant, you're not even aware enough to use it like in private. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it's like, dude, I I can't, we can't 100% agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:30

100% agree with that. I'm not even comfortable reading this this comment in the chat.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:36

Just read it. Actually, I I haven't looked, so that maybe don't read it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

Speaking of the chat, if you are listening, because we're about to we're about to log off here. Um, make sure you uh make sure you are following the podcast, the no plays off podcast, and following better betting news network, of course, on Twitter and all socials. But uh the no plays off podcast on Apple or Spotify, make sure you're giving that a follow.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:01

Give it a download too. Before we wrap, I'll give you guys a uh a quick uh funny on the home front story. You know, this uh so you know if SPJ, I don't think you plan to have kids, but if you ever do, or Thorb, if you ever plan to have kids, but see it, you probably you probably had moments like this in your house. So we've got this uh this one toilet that is I I am convinced that this toilet really just is an old pun intended crappy toilet and should be replaced. It it like the thing clogs up too easily, and so somebody wasn't me, I would tell you if it was, but somebody in my house at some point clogged this toilet. And it whatever was in there went down, okay, and so following morning, this is like 6 a.m. My seven-year-old goes to use the toilet just to just to go number one. And he goes and I'm like blurry-eyed walking toward the bathroom as my wife's getting ready to walk in the shower. I go, I'm like, hey buddy, don't don't flush. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna come and I'm gonna go behind you here. You know, why why double flush there? It's not necessary. So I go so so I go, I hit the flush, and I leave the bathroom because who stands around to watch the toilet water go down, and the water started coming the other way, start going up, up, yeah, up, you don't want that up, no, and rapidly starts overflowing. And and it's like it's right on top. There's a vent right there going down to the finished basement where it's like you know, it you it'll come down through now. Fortunately, it's a drop ceiling, not a finished ceiling or whatever. So, you know, you could replace the wet panels or whatever, but water starts coming down. It's bad, it's bad, guys. It's bad. And my sounds bad, and my and my wife instantly, and I remind you, this is like six in the morning, starts freaking out, grabbing every towel she can find, trying to put them along the toilet, trying to stop the water. And she's going, It's it's water, like the and it's you know, it's all the like toilet paper particles from this previous whatever start coming up. It's like it's shit water, it's water. Meanwhile, my seven-year-old kids say the darndest things, right? Starts going, it's shit water. Somebody grab a towel, there's shit water, it's everywhere. Which in the moment, I'm trying not to laugh during this you know calamity that is happening right here. And of course, the whole rest of the day, this kid is walking around the house. You're about the shit water earlier? Yeah, man, I was there for it. Stop trying to get away with this.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:58

Well, hey, just real quick, what do you do with like, did you turn off the valve? Like, I'm not even 100% sure what to do with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:04

What you're supposed to in in the I mean, look, I'm I'm obviously no plumber, handyman, whatever. So if there's a plumber in the chat that can speak to this better than me, have at it. I've always been under the mindset that what you're supposed to do when you see the water coming up is quickly reach back behind the toilet, turn the valve off, right? So the water will stop. So did that, and in previous cases, that has you know delayed the issue enough to where it doesn't overflow and you can plunge the thing and deal with your problem. In this particular case, the water kept on coming. I don't know what to do. I don't know why, I don't know what the problem was. That water kept coming. That water had intent. It was shit water. Yeah, uh, by the way, TCU just hit a huge three from Ohio State. Also just hit a three. This also just hit a three, tied it back up. It's 64. Your your feet is ahead of mine then.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:56

21 seconds left.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:58

No, okay. I've I still see 45 on mine. Sorry, you gotta look at I was trying I was trying to be nice to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:04

No, you gotta look at the sports books, they have the most active update.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:07

No, I know, but then you don't get the enjoyment of watching want to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:11

Yeah, I'm not interested in watching, but I am I am turning it on now.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:15

So, anyway, guys, yeah, shit water. It was a problem, yeah. Yeah, shit water, shit water, there's shit water everywhere, everywhere. Yeah, I had I I still I still have some towels and insulation down on the ground next to me where it where it came down atop the hey before we log off, maybe maybe we watch these last 20 seconds live. I we're not all gonna be on the same sink.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:45

That is annoying, and that could also take forever. That's also that that actually really could take. We could be here for another shit idea. See you. We could watch these last 22 seconds. All right, well, good luck to Ohio winning and TCU covering, and everybody's happy. That's what we're looking for. We've that is what we're looking for in the chat, and uh we'll do this again. Uh stifler says OSU won. I don't is he in the stage? It's not happened yet. I still had a commercial break, stifler.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:14

That's funny. No, it's still 64. All 21 seconds left, is what I see.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:18

Yeah, everyone stay away from the shit water. Yes, if you see him on Instagram, say hi to Abe Najad. And uh, and yeah, for SPJ, uh freshly groomed. We appreciate you, sir. Thorb, see ya. Download the pod, Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you find us. As C always likes to tell you, everybody go win some money and cash some unders and all that good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:42

Hey, hey, next week, next week out of it. Yeah, next week we'll talk about my Bam out of bio tweet.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:47

Oh, I can't wait. You guys are never gonna believe see you went viral with a tweet. Yeah, we are gonna talk about it. That is the big market tease coming up on the next no plays off. Till then, puck it. See you later, boys. See ya.