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No Plays Off Episode 18

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Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off,"  chat about the Masters and Rory going back to back, more on the Dianna Russini/Mike Vrabel drama, the NBA Playoffs tipping off, and the story of the man who got stiffed on a $500k handshake bet!

SPEAKER_02

Come on. Add a wood Love. You're the mate hat, baby. Take no days off. The mother pads every day that they taste off. You're the mate hat, baby. Take no days off. The mother pads every day that they taste off. And I'm seeing it off.

SPEAKER_00

I tell you, boys, this is uh well, you guys look good. I know that much. It's no plays off, BNN. I am coming to you from parts unknown. I mean, really, it it looks that way. So here's what we here's here's the background. Decided to try and move our show from the regular Thursday to here on Tuesday on a night that this particular week just happened to work better for everyone. And really, by everyone, I mean me. And of course, like two hours ago, the internet in my house completely dropped. Reach out to figure out what's going on. And the company, Xfinity in this case, says, should hopefully be resolved in your neighborhood, in your area by about 11 o'clock tonight. Like, well, that's not helpful. So I decide to take the kids over to their soccer practice and just sit in the parking lot in my car talking to you guys. And see you, Thorb. Maybe the biggest kick in the junk of all of this is that Thorb pops on right before the show and says, To be honest, you look better than you usually do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's fair. Doesn't his camera look way better in his car?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I thought you meant his appearance, like him. Oh, because it's darker and you can't see as much. You can't see as well. Burn, take that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, I'm living in the chat now, baby.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're ugly, is what he's saying. Uh, there's a couple things in the chat.

SPEAKER_00

I'm grouped. I got a haircut, not that you can really tell, but I got it.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if he's in a McDonald's parking lot. Um, and somebody in the chat already asked if is this on YouTube? It is not currently. We have gotten banned again, or suspended, or whatever it is. Um, I don't know much of the information, but how how many?

SPEAKER_00

I I've got like no YouTube following. How many followers do you guys have on your YouTube accounts?

SPEAKER_05

On our YouTube, like my YouTube account doesn't have a big following, but a lot of my listeners listen to my other shows on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just wondering with this BNN ban issue, this ban and N as it relates to YouTube. Where can we re-should we just create a new YouTube page?

SPEAKER_05

What do we just here's the thing? Here's the thing, Adam. Here's the problem. Oh, creating a new YouTube page makes sense. But here's the problem: we don't know because of how YouTube functions, we don't know what we're actually violating, and therefore, we could we just recruit that violation into our channel, right? Like we don't know, we don't even know why we've gotten suspended.

SPEAKER_03

No, we have no fair. I I also already tried to put this live on my YouTube, and that didn't even work. So, but then it's probably a good thing because what if my entire YouTube also got shut down? So I I guess uh I guess it worked out, but yeah, I don't I I think we should try and start one at this point, but that's a conversation for another topic.

SPEAKER_05

So the goods dude in the chat, that's Joe Newenfeld, by the way, who watches uh a lot of my stuff as well. He said banned probably for saying it was fine to steal from DraftKings, and it is. Yeah, no, we weren't suspended after that, but yeah, that would be uh you know what's interesting about DraftKings Thorb is they may have had uh a matchup priced incorrectly. And this isn't a betting show, we'll talk about whatever y'all want. Um, they may have had a matchup priced incorrectly in Thorb. I may have been speaking to you at the time, and some people may have taken full advantage of that, and it wasn't like uh an error. I mean, it was an error on their part, but it wasn't like a glitch, it was just like matchup one versus another guy, and that number was probably wrong.

SPEAKER_00

And uh are we deliberately cagey, or can you give the specifics of this particular wager?

SPEAKER_05

Well, by the way, the Kate Gray account in the in the chat. I I think we can probably I think we can probably uh chat today.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm really deferring to you guys across the board.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think this might be uh some sort of uh a bot situation, but anyway, we I don't even know what is happening.

SPEAKER_00

That's a lot, um that's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_05

Whoa, but uh yeah, so it was a mat, it was a Matt Fitzpatrick versus uh Nick Taylor matchup, and they had Nick Taylor as the favorite. I mean, again, it wasn't a glitch, but it was like they just had it backwards, I think. And Thorb, you had a lot more money on it uh than I did, but uh yeah, it's just one of those things. The book has it wrong. It's it's not like they can, it's not like they can't pay it out. You're still risking money. It's not like Matt Fitzpatrick was definitely gonna win the matchup, and uh, we benefited. So maybe we got banned from YouTube for that too. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00

I I think it's generally probably best to operate. I I think most people live in a world where it's like inappropriate to talk about money, right? Like people's money is their business, but Thorb here is so uh just you know, he'll he'll he's open to share. He's he is he'll tell you whatever you want to know economically. And so yeah, I I wouldn't ask Sia how much he wagered across betting and DFS on the Masters, but Thorb, I'm going right to you because you when we had our show last week on Thursday, I think it was Thursday, you were like seven or eight grand in on the masters at that point. How much do you think you wagered by the time the tournament was over with internally you know betting and everything?

SPEAKER_03

I wonder if I can give you an exact figure. Um I mean, I what was the first day number? Seven to eight K right. Yeah, seven or eight. I by Sunday it would have to be around twenty. I I'd venture to say.

SPEAKER_05

Did you finish? That is bananas.

SPEAKER_03

Did you finish up? No, but it wasn't bad. I think I think overall, with the help of C is Bet, um, I was probably down like 500 bucks, which without a winner, I didn't get a winner. You know, I didn't have Rory. I consider that big W. Big W because I get way too I get way too overexposed on the master. So if I'm not that down and I don't hit the winner, big win. Big win in my body.

SPEAKER_00

For entertainment at that point.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, but see his belt bet killed because like matchups are spooky because like even though it was a clearly they literally just flip-flop the odds. Like Fitzpatrick's was supposed to be, I think, uh minus 190 or minus 200. Yeah, and they flipped it to where he was plus 150. That doesn't mean he's gonna win, like it's golf. Like he could go out there and shoot a plus eight. So but I just saw it as uh a good opportunity, and I I dabbled pretty hard in that, and it I think I it got me somewhere to like a thousand bucks just on that one bet. So shout out to you, he's now my best friend for the foreseeable future until something somebody else does something better.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, your recap. Uh, do do we want to cue that up? Because you just released that today, did you not, Thor? I did. I did indeed. Alex, is it uh Kaufman, Thorb, is it time?

SPEAKER_03

Sure. We're here. If Alex is ready, then we're ready.

SPEAKER_02

Going back to back. Yeah, got the jacket on, going back to back. Yeah, going back to back.

SPEAKER_05

So okay, first of all, that was awesome. Why did you stop it there?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I kind of felt like it. But well, cause it like it was already, it was already like cut, like it was over, you know what I mean? And like I I don't know, because it would have just been like a whole like Rory Dick sucking like 20 seconds after that. You know what I mean? It was like I kind of did it. Um, yeah, a lot of people are mad at me for stopping after that because it felt like I was gonna keep going, but I was just doing the whole play into the Drake back to back thing. But yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

No, I was gonna it felt short. Well, I was just gonna say this so that like experience that last you know 60 seconds or whatever it was was doubly shitty for me because I I think it's the way I I joined our feed from my phone, but I can't hear anything now. I I heard I listened, I heard well, like I listened to it earlier, so I have heard it, but I didn't hear it just now. So it it sucked because I didn't hear it just now, and it also sucked because you had to the viewer stare at me, staring at you, not hearing shit. And that to me was just doubly awful. But yeah, it it felt it felt like it. Well, I mean, it left me wanting more, which I guess is the goal, right?

SPEAKER_03

That was the key, honestly. Yeah, yeah. So I'm also experimenting with uh because I felt with my NFL recaps that they were too long and it was actually hurting viewership and numbers because it's all you need people to watch the full video for your videos to go quote unquote viral, right? So um, this one was like a minute and nine seconds or something, and I was like kind of trying to test that out to see if it was better to make shorter ones because honestly, it saved me like hours, you know, which is cool. And then also, like, I I wondered if people would watch it more if it was shorter, like the NFL recap. Sometimes I make them like two minute, two minute 30 seconds because there's a lot more to cover, and I'm like, no one, how many people are legitimately staying start to end for a two and a half minute video in today's day and age? Probably not a lot of people. Well, yes, like a lot of the main people, and like I don't know. I'm trying to figure, I'm trying to figure if Adam, if I should make them shorter, but now if I make them shorter after making videos so long, everyone's just gonna get mad.

SPEAKER_00

Can you guys it's pouring?

SPEAKER_05

Can you guys? Yeah, we can hear it now. Adam, I was gonna ask you, changing the subject a little bit. Uh by the way, like what what is Kate Gray doing in the chat? Can we can we like okay? It's it's person's name's not Kate Gray, definitely a bot, but like not really a bot because it's responsive. Is anybody seeing what I'm seeing? You're just hogging the chat at this point. It's it's this isn't great.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, are they just talking to themselves though?

SPEAKER_05

That's correct. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, okay, that's great.

SPEAKER_05

Adam, do you want to respond to the Diana Rossini situation? The resignation letter.

SPEAKER_00

I'm wondering if we'll hire her at the betting news network. I mean, she's uh she's available. Look, the both ways available, yeah. Apparently, yeah. Um, no, I mean, look, I I don't have a lot to say about the situation that I haven't said already. I I guess the latest as relates to the resignation statement letter, whatever, that you know was made available and then she ultimately posted to her social media. If anyone hasn't read it, go ahead, we're not gonna read it to you. But um, I just kind of thought that it was ridiculous. Like innocent people don't quit their jobs, is really what it comes down to. So look, I don't know what she did or didn't do, I only know what most people assume that she did, but I don't know what she did. But I don't think the statement saying I didn't do it, but I'm quitting anyway, was really a help to her. Because honestly, part of the statement I'm paraphrasing was I don't want to continue to be visible feeding into this while people are making a joke at my expense. When the reality is like, yeah, we've talked about it. Other, you know, maybe quote unquote smaller networks have talked about it, but the larger ones, no one has touched it. No one has touched it. Like the four-letter network hasn't talked, hasn't said a word about it. Fox has not said a word about it. CBS see it, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think it said a word about it. Like the larger networks, I don't think, have have fueled this fire in any way, shape, or form. And I'm not being critical of them for not doing so. I'm just simply stating the fact that they have not involved themselves in the conversation until she put out this statement saying, Why is everybody talking about me? The people that are talking about her are all over social media. Now, she will catch on, she will get a job somewhere, whether it's relatively imminently, whether it's sometime before the next football season. But she acknowledged, I think the detail that nobody, at least I certainly wasn't aware of, I'm guessing most people weren't aware of, was she said that her contract was up, whatever the date, June 30th or July 30th. I don't remember what the date was, but she said her contract was up. So I would I'm only guessing, I don't know anything, but I'm assuming that it was probably communicated to her that hey, the New York Times is doing its investigation. Of course, the parent company at the Athletic, you did something or you didn't do something, but regardless of what the the the investigation finds, in the court of public opinion, you are guilty, and we're not gonna renew your contract, regardless of whether we deem you innocent. So she probably looked at it and said, Well, if my contract expires in a couple months anyway, and they're not gonna bring me back, I may as well just get out on my own terms. So it sort of felt like that's what that was. Meanwhile, Mike Vrabel hasn't said anything about anything to anybody, he has been immensely quiet.

SPEAKER_03

All I know is being famous really gotta suck because so see it, Matt, you're out there, you're cheating on your wife, right? Sure. Now, and then just out of the blue, man, just these sneaky little photos come out about you. Now you gotta quit your job, you gotta do all these things when you could have just been non-famous cheating on your wife in peace. You know what I mean? It's really gotta suck. It's really gotta suck. Not to say cheating on your wife is good nor bad, probably more towards the bad, but it's just I feel like she's could actually she's gonna be fine. She's gonna be hired by Barstool in like 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_05

I would assume there's various outlets that I know she's tight with uh the Levitar network, uh, so they they might pick her up. They were actually talking about not talking about it a couple of days ago as well. And I think a lot of these, you're right, Adam. A lot of these like bigger outlets just don't want to talk about maybe it's because they don't want when the situation comes up with them, they don't want people you know talking about it them. You know, I I don't exactly know what what's going on there, but um yeah, that's I I don't have much to say about it. I mean, it does look like what Adam, what you said is is pretty obvious. And if you leave, maybe whatever investigation is going on doesn't get you know, doesn't continue, doesn't get publicized, whatever the case may be, because it's a moot point at this point.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's the main thing. Yeah, uh, and I also there's a lot of dumb people out there saying the whole like, oh, why is not the happening to Mike Vrabel? It's an entirely different, she's like a journalist. You can't be you can't be banging coaches, you know. That that's the like theoretically, a coach says like I mean, I don't know, does it go both ways? I don't think it does. I think it's very different if you're a journalist that is going about, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

That's true, but there's probably also a double standard where girls get, you know, women get uh a little bit more criticism versus guys in situations like this.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, that's 100% true, yes. But I I figure like professional-wise, like the occupation in which they have Adam. Are you trying to talk? Because I can't hear a fucking word you're saying. Yeah, he's still gone. Yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, try again. Nope. No, I know Alex was messing with your settings, so maybe uh maybe he maybe he cut your line.

SPEAKER_00

I try again, Adam. Adam, try again. How about how about now? Yeah, yeah. No, I was I was just gonna say I I the professional part is the thing I think that matters the most because while Mike Vrabel obviously has to say something to his locker room, you know, that I I think that tends to be the prevailing wisdom that players, you know, if if you're going to be the kind of coach that tries to set a standard with make good decisions and you know, don't get in the public eye, all of these things, then he gets caught up in this, again, guilty or otherwise. Just the fact that he has shown up on uh shown up on page six of the New York Post, he's gonna have to say something. But you know, for anyone's like, well, why isn't Mike Rabel losing his job? It's the issue isn't male-female here. The issue is not even so much the affair, if again that happened. It's about integrity, it's about journalistic integrity.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think um, you know, as um as like a pretty well-known feminist myself, I think that Mike Vrabel should be fired as well, and Drake May should be cut.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I don't see why you don't cut Drake May for this.

SPEAKER_03

I don't I don't see why either. He had to have something to do with it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I mean, come on. Adam had something to do with this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He's the one that put them in touch.

SPEAKER_03

Wasn't there a thing that came out before the playoffs that Drake May cheated on his uh his little wife person?

SPEAKER_00

I I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sure it was true too.

SPEAKER_00

Drake May and and uh and Michael May might have the most wholesome marriage going right now, actually.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. The internet, the internet's never wrong either. I didn't see anything. I'm sure they're posted everything.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't see anything on the internet about uh what what you're alluding to here.

SPEAKER_03

I think it was like some Snapchats or something. You know what the kids be doing, you know, you know what I mean? I thought you were just I thought you were just making that up. No, no, this is just an actual thing, yeah. This was a real thing. This is a real thing. Well, I saw it. I said, Oh shit, this kid's done. He should be cut.

SPEAKER_00

He wasn't done.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you gotta then he just played bad in the playoffs. Karma. Yeah, cheating on your wife is bad, guys. Don't do it. Don't do it. Yeah, I'll be taking pictures if you're doing it.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, speaking of uh wives cheating, are you guys gonna watch uh my wife on the on the floor with Rob Lowe tomorrow?

SPEAKER_03

I really want to watch it.

SPEAKER_01

I I do want to watch it. Is it like a good show? It's actually a don't be biased.

SPEAKER_05

No, I mean it's it's a pretty basic show. It's it's one, it's a show that like anybody can enjoy. It's not like a jeopardy situation, it's pretty fast-paced. There's there's a decent amount of strategy involved. I it's yeah, it's a good show. If you watch tomorrow, I'm pretty sure you'll see you'll see more of GG than we saw the first the first two hours.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like I gotta watch uh episode one then. Yeah, I gotta know what's going on.

SPEAKER_05

Not really, you'll know what's going on right away. I mean, it's a very basic, easy game.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Does she win? It's for the dumb people, Thor. You could figure it out. Yeah, it's not one of those shows like Jeopardy where you gotta know shit. You just gotta you can just fucking watch it like an idiot.

SPEAKER_05

You do have to know stuff to win. Like, I don't think you you you can't really win without knowing a bunch of stuff, but you can get far without knowing a bunch of stuff. I'll put it that way.

SPEAKER_03

Tomorrow, 8 p.m.

SPEAKER_05

Tomorrow, 8 p.m. Eastern time. Five o'clock for Joe in the chat.

SPEAKER_00

Again, uh I don't know. I I know can I bring it back to the masters for a second? Not a not a sure, I guess. You know, you two guys being the golf guys that you are. Uh I I'm just wondering how you not again related to your investments, just as golf fans. How did you guys feel about Rory winning again?

SPEAKER_03

Boring.

SPEAKER_05

I had Cam Young, so I was I was actually pretty annoyed by it. I mean it's fine.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but like I don't know, like even watching it, but I I guess I was I wasn't really spite watching it that much. I don't know. Because like, yeah, I had Cam Young too, but just like watching it, I was like, yeah, he did it already. You know, I didn't really I didn't get much out of it. It was like I would have liked even if Rose like went crazy and took it, I feel like that would have been more entertaining than I'm also not the biggest Rory guy. I really wanted him to win it last year. This year, I was like, all right, dude, you know, enough's enough. You already did it. Get over yourself, you know what I mean? Now uh of all time, yeah. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a bit I can't I can't I it's hard for me to rate the guys from like fucking 1946.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah I I I'm I'm not great at that either, but it is I think conventional wisdom that he's top 10 at this point.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_05

I was honestly like I was watching that whole by hole uh I was just waiting for Cam Young to pop like he did the day before. I was like pretty, I was pretty depressed about it, to be honest with you. And and and knowing that he didn't win, it would have been more compelling for me if somebody else had actually caught like a Justin Rose, maybe not Russell Henley, because he's super boring, but like there were other guys in the mix that could have caught him. That would have been a pretty cool story. Justin Rose in particular.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they kind of let him have it, to be honest. I mean, he shot what minus one like in the in the final round, right? That might have been it.

SPEAKER_00

Rory, yeah. Rory was Rory was six under through 36, and then he was par the rest of the way. He was one over, then one under.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, I mean, the lead he had was ridiculous. Like those first two days were really, really good. And then, I mean, f to final round for no one to take it from you when you only shot minus one. Yeah, I mean, I guess Cam was the guy in the biggest position to take it from him. He, I don't know, he did what Cam did every other tournament he's done for the majority of his life, except now everyone thinks he's a dog because of the rider cup and then the the players, which is like theoretically not true. He he's only done it like one time, so I don't know. I probably should have expected it more.

SPEAKER_00

Did you ever think that Scotty was gonna get there? You know, I mean as he made that charge.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh well, he hit a couple, like whenever I'm like it hasn't really happened this year, but last year and stuff. Whenever I see Scotty and he's like four or five, three back, and he hits like this egregious 28-foot par putt. I get I start getting worried. I start getting really worried because like whenever he just starts rolling in putts, that's when you don't want to mess with the guy. And uh he he hit like two par putts over like 15 feet or something, and I was like, Oh, we're all fucked. And it didn't really happen. Didn't didn't really happen. I mean, he was he was too far back, he was too far back.

SPEAKER_05

I do think he's gonna win the RBC Heritage, which is why my outrights I'm not I'm not messing with uh Scheffler. It's the it's the without Scotty Sheffler market. Thorb, you put a lot of bets down like you always do. Are you including Scheffler?

SPEAKER_03

Um, I did not. I do I do a lot of each ways, though. I think okay. Almost all my card is each ways, except like three guys. And then uh I did like in my mind, they're like hedge bets where it's not as much as I put on the total outright, but it's a you know a little dividend of that into the without market just in case Scotty ruins everything, which I think he will as well. But I feel like a lot of people are thinking that, and Scotty wins when you're when everyone's kind of not afraid of him, you know, and then he then he comes in and wins. Well, I don't know. Well, then he also wins times that everyone thinks he's gonna win. He wins a lot.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he's really good here as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Did you finalize your card yet, Sam? NBA playoffs are yet, boys. Was that was that car boy? Carboy?

SPEAKER_00

What was that car? What'd the car say? I said NBA playoffs are here. You excited about that? Play in tournament?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, next are gonna win the Super Bowl. Celtic Spurs, 10 to 1. That's your exact finals. Spurs win. That's probably like more like 20 to 1. Uh, my card for the RBC before we get back to NBA is uh without market, Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Sahif the Gala, and then two sprinkle long shots on Sudarshan Yellow Miraju and Ryu Husatsune.

SPEAKER_03

Very nice uh pronunciation of his name. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_05

Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03

Um, it's kind of a light, that's a pretty light card. You didn't get uh well, I get well, where what's JT number? What would you get in?

SPEAKER_05

So JT in the without market is is around 33, and Jordan Speed in the Without Market's around 25, 26. So those are two relatively short prices. And honestly, these days, I mean, I gotta be honest with you. Last week I saw some cards that had like four guys that were 35 to one or shorter and had like a bunch of long shots. And I'm like, who how like like it's kind of like your card, but Thor, the difference is you bet a certain way and you bet a certain amount of money. Most people who are following people's bets don't bet like you do. So the thing is, you can't give out like four guys that are like south of 35 to one because people only have a certain amount of money that they want to spend. Again, unlike you, they only have a certain amount that they want to spend, and you you can't give out eight eight outrights when like or period, but like people were doing that, and I'm like, Yeah, you can't be giving that advice out.

SPEAKER_03

It's just not especially if you don't explain how you should go about betting them, and right, and by the way, even if you do explain it with that many outrights, like what it's impossible to really make any good money unless you're yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_05

So, anyway, uh good on you going speed, though. Good on you, yeah. I I hate betting speet or Justin Thomas, but as you should just it's just a one-week thing, see what happens. Adam, Celtics uh represent the east at plus 155. That seems like easy money outside of an injury.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't, I mean, there's just no value in the number whatsoever.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, that's so I mean you think they're gonna win. I'm just I'm like if if you had to if somebody give you a thousand dollars and was like, bet it on the Eastern Conference winner right now. I mean, you put it all on the Celtics, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I mean, if I had to put it all on one team, I would put it on the Celtics, but I would probably just given the number and looking for value, I would split it up a little bit, maybe put half of it on the Celtics, and I'd maybe put a quarter on uh Knicks on on the no on the calves and a quarter on the Pistons, I guess, even though I don't really believe it when I say it. No, I think the Knicks are very live to lose the first round against the Hawks.

SPEAKER_03

Whoa, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, wrong. Yeah, uh, they're they know good, but they're gonna they're gonna go on a run like no one's ever seen before. It's gonna be some of the greatest basketball anyone anyone has ever witnessed, and it's gonna be really sweet when they beat the fucking breaks off the Celtics soon. It's gonna be it's gonna be sick.

SPEAKER_00

I hope, I hope they beat the the Hawks just so the Celtics take them down in five. Nice gentleman's.

SPEAKER_05

They're gonna beat the Hawks. The Hawks have a ceiling that I hope that that is just a little lower than the Knicks come playoff time, in my opinion. I don't like the Knicks, but they're better than the Hawks.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to see some some sort of enjoyment. You know what I mean? I just want I'll I'll take a take a medium, I'll take a medium run. Just a medium run in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00

Are the Hornets still blowing doors against the Heat right now? I can't pull it up, otherwise, I'm gonna go black.

SPEAKER_05

Uh no, it's 49 to 48 heat.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_05

Told you late second. Spolstra, man. It's always one time of season where spolster comes out and is like, hey, I'm still a good coach. This is that night.

SPEAKER_03

What is that$10 boost on the heat?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, what's Charlotte on the money line right now?

SPEAKER_03

Good question.

SPEAKER_00

Minus 220. Sure. Minus 220. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

If that gets, can can someone tell me if that gets inside minus 200 so I can bet it?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, I'm not watching it right now, but I think the heat plus four and a half is a is a fine bet.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I did nine and a half, but that's with my stupid little fan duel boost, so I don't really care. It was a good time to get in. Should have put a billion dollars on it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, I get the I'm just way more, even though I think there's more balance for lack of a better word, in the east, I'm way more interested in the west. I just Thunder Spurs Nuggets, I think it's gonna be a war among those three teams. And any combination of those three playing one another, I'm I'm just eager as hell to watch it. And I hope they all go seven games.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like the nugget I could be wrong here. I feel like the Nuggets are like a pretty big step down from OKC in San Antonio. I know Jokic is like the best, but the best. They don't really like behind Jokic, I just feel like they don't have a ton. Jamal Morey's playing well.

SPEAKER_00

Both Browns with Bruce as well. You got uh, you know, I mean, I know like Porter Jr. is gone, but like for the most, I don't know. I they're not as deep as the other two teams. I agree with that, but I think outside of those two, they're as deep as anyone you'll find in the West, and most teams in the NBA, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just catching up on uh Joe Neuenveldt's comments because they're ordered like in a weird way, um, for whatever reason. And and though this is a funny one. Uh Thorb, what if you couldn't bet for one day? What would happen?

SPEAKER_03

Um for one day. One day's fine. One day's fine.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so what's what's the what's the amount of days that you could hold out from betting?

SPEAKER_03

Four. Like a quick I answer that? I knew.

SPEAKER_00

Four is like a let's say you I don't know how often, if ever, you do this, but let's say you go on vacation overseas. Are you you got you got one of the you know, bet online, you got the you got the overseas books to work with, or could you go away for a week and not place a bet?

SPEAKER_03

If there's golf on, absolutely not. I will have I will call my buddies to make golf outrights, which I do every single time. But um trying to think, if there's like footballs on, nope, I would I wouldn't make it either. I would call my buddies to do that too. Um if there is not golf or football on, I could do it. I could do it. Those are my two bugaboos.

SPEAKER_00

I saw a, you know, since we always talk about betting and we always talk about money, putting those two together, uh, FanDuel had a uh I I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the tweet up in front of me, but they had something on their account that was, you know, one of those questions like the kind of ridiculous crap that we ask around here. And it was something along the lines of if if you had to pick between these two, either you get five hundred dollars a day every day for a year, but you cannot watch sports at all, or you get a thousand dollars for each of your teams, your favorite teams, NBA, MLB, NFL, total wins, and you can't work. So that is your only source of income.

SPEAKER_03

Ah, fuck. The Dolphins? Is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but what are your other favorite teams? Because that's where this is really gonna come in.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean, it doesn't really matter because you have base you have baseball and the NBA in there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's good enough.

SPEAKER_05

Well, depends on who your team is.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's the Mets and the Knicks. Um, so like that's fine. We can work with that, right? Yeah, we'll be able to do that. Yeah, that would be that would be really good.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, I've I've thought about this and I've and I've done some math. So you gotta you gotta think about this. For me, it's like it's it's Boston. It's easy. I don't need to think about the teams. So if the let's say the let's say the Red Sox and I'm ballparking, let's say the Red Sox give me 85 wins. Let's say the Patriots give me 10 under under and the Celtics give me 50-55. That math is ballpark 150 grand, and I can't work. Okay, that's a good life. The good but if you but if you you take 500 bucks a day flat for a year, but you can't watch sports, that's like 185 grand or something like that. So it's actually more money.

SPEAKER_03

Who cares?

SPEAKER_00

That's not even that it it needs to be way.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that gap needs to be like 60 to 70 grand.

SPEAKER_00

Sucks. That question's stupid. Not I mean, if you're not if you're a fan of the fucking dolphins and a couple other junk teams, then then you get a bigger gap.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it you give me, you're telling me I don't have to work. That's fucking sweet. Give me uh give me give me 80k, I'll find a way. I'll uh that's fine for the rest of my life, whatever, dude. I'll figure it out. I don't need a lot. I don't have a wife, don't got no damn kids. I'll fucking I'm fine. You guys might need a little more. I don't need shit. It's all right.

SPEAKER_05

I mean that's a fair point. That perspective is is different.

SPEAKER_00

I hope you didn't negotiate bull wax.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, what's the Miami update? Do we have a moving down to Miami update?

SPEAKER_03

Or you don't want to say uh he's in Spain right now, so I haven't talked to him. Uh their whole well, a majority of their crew is in Spain for like some uh sports card conference thing or something. So uh I'm gonna talk to him when he gets back. But yeah, it's basically the same, like probably end of May, worst case, early June type type of stuff. I'll be out there. Warm. I'll be well, actually, it's kind of warm here now, but like I'll be warm always. Always sweet. It's good, sweet. Yeah. We're talking, I was talking, uh, I was talking to C. I need to find people to golf down there. Uh, and then I see Mike from CBS posted a video of him golfing. I was like, well, shit, there's one. And I already reached out to him about it.

SPEAKER_00

Which mic? Probably lots of mics.

SPEAKER_03

How do you say his last name to you? Uh, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05

It's C U G N O. Yeah. It's I think it's the C is like uh an S sound. Like Sunno or Suno.

SPEAKER_00

That single. He said the Hornets are minus minus 175 on the money line. All right, I'm going, I'm going dark for a sec. I'm going dark.

SPEAKER_05

Heat are plus three and a half up 54-52 at halftime. Oh I feel like this. So the by the way, the the pre-flop spread was five and a half. So the three and a half is basically just giving you what the initial line was.

SPEAKER_00

I got mine ten.

SPEAKER_03

I should have hammered that nine and a half, man. I just wanted to get the boost out because there's like some bonus bet situation thing going on.

SPEAKER_05

I I I love watching the Hornets, but like the Heat are the type of team that's just like just well coached enough to like they're gritty actually cover and win this game. Yeah, they got heart tone. What would you take here, Thorb? I might I might actually bet this.

SPEAKER_00

I gotta I gotta go to minus one and a half to get I like the heat. I like the heat from the start. I don't like the heat as well.

SPEAKER_05

I'm going against you there, Adam. It's a small play, though.

SPEAKER_03

I don't mind losing it.

SPEAKER_05

I really it's a very small play.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I have a ten dollar play on it currently, so uh because that was my boot, uh my max on FanDuel. I'm surprised you even bothered with that, knowing how much well, because if you placed a bet you got entered in for the two million dollar day, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, otherwise you're correct. I never use any of their boosters.

SPEAKER_00

But I could I get could I get your guys' advice on a uh on a hedge opportunity that I have?

SPEAKER_03

Go.

SPEAKER_00

This is not this is not a lot of money. I'll I'll preface by saying that. I I probably know then I probably nothing. I'll probably just let it run. So so I I did a preseason make the playoffs parlay with a bunch of teams that I expected to sweat-free make the postseason. And the one that isn't in yet is Orlando, who obviously is in the play-in tournament and now has two opportunities to try and get through, right? You got this first game that's coming up tomorrow against the Sixers, or you know, obviously the winner of this 9-10 game, depending if Philadelphia ends up winning. So, right now, not that I'm gonna cash out, but just to give you the details, I've got a cash out opportunity that is halfway between my wager and the payout, if if it were to hit the bet. So I'm wondering if I should be investing in the Sixers to win, knowing Orlando still has another opportunity to win that bet and possibly win both bets. Hedge on Orlando at plus 250 or plus 260, whatever it is to just miss the playoffs, or just do nothing and sit it out and see what happens.

SPEAKER_05

I'd wait until the second game if they lose to Philly, because they'll probably be a slight favorite or a slight dog. You could hedge there. On the other team.

SPEAKER_03

But you you said for them to miss the playoffs is like 260 or something like that?

SPEAKER_00

Something like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, that'd be the hedge, certainly not the cash out, but um, yeah, not the cash out.

SPEAKER_00

Either that or betting on Philly on the money line and hoping that maybe Philly wins, then Orlando wins and you win both.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, nah, we don't like that. We don't like that. It would be it would be I it would be the plus 260 better. Nothing for me. I would also need to know how much money, but then I think you know what, you want to know what I would do? Yeah, I would bet on Orlando to win. Double happiness, double depression, dude. That's what I'm about.

SPEAKER_05

The thing about the the the hedge that allows you to wait until the second game is that you may not have to hedge at all. So, yeah, you're not getting the plus 260, but you might not have to hedge at all if Orlando beats Philly. If Philly wins, then it's like, okay, now I have to consider like you know, buying in on Miami or or Charlotte. So that's the kind of thing where you're kind of gambling with the hedge. You might not need to make it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. Let that shit cook, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Orlando sucks. They that suck.

SPEAKER_03

Does that help your case? Next level embarrassment. Does that make you feel better about it?

SPEAKER_05

They lost a must-win game to your Celtics, and the Celtics sat everybody.

SPEAKER_00

The Celtics' best players on the floor were Ron Harper Jr., Baylor Shireman, and Luca Garza. Meanwhile, Orlando had everybody.

SPEAKER_03

That Baylor Shireman guy was pissing me off against the Knicks the other night. He had like fucking seven threes in a row. This shit was driving me crazy. Feisty. Huh? Yeah, he's a feisty little boy. I don't like him. Get him out of here. Kick him out of the league.

unknown

Kick him out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I actually have uh futures on NBA, see you?

SPEAKER_05

No, but I'm about to make one, I think, on San Antonio. I might do the exact, I might, it's not an exact per se. It's the championship matchup bet with the Celtics, who I really think are gonna win uh the East. I do have a sprinkle on them to win the East. It's just you know, it's not not a big bet. But Celtics versus the Spurs is 10 to 1 or in that 10 to 1 range. I I don't mind gambling on that because I actually think it's a two-horse race in the Western Conference. I understand Denver's good, but I I think San Antonio's really solid.

SPEAKER_00

That's just the matchup, doesn't matter who wins.

SPEAKER_05

Correct. Yeah, the exact would be I don't know, 17 to 1 with uh Spurs winning, or whatever, probably not the 15 to 1, something like that. I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I've got I've got some uh I've I've got a bet in, you know, these are all in-season bets, but I've got a bet on Boston to win the East. I've got championship bets on the Spurs and the Pistons. Um yeah, I have not reinvested going into the postseason at all on anybody as of yet. But I like I like the exact logic. I would be tempted to throw a little money, nothing crazy, on Boston against all of those teams I mentioned in the West. San Antonio, OKC, even though it's probably a shit number, and Denver, where you would get some value.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the problem is you the Boston would be the problem in all of those bets that you guys are thinking about. You, yeah. Because you know why.

SPEAKER_00

If you take your you know, Knicks fandom away, who do you think is the best team in the East? Because I know you don't actually believe it's New York.

SPEAKER_03

That is correct, that is 100% correct. Uh uh, probably probably the Celtics.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_04

But that's the question.

SPEAKER_05

The question is who do you think the second best team in the East is? Because I actually do think it might be the Knicks, maybe the Pistons, maybe the Knicks. I think you could make the argument for the Knicks.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think you really could, could you? Yeah, yeah. Maybe for number one, yeah? Maybe for number one in the East, huh? Yeah, maybe be a number one in the East.

SPEAKER_05

What's gonna happen if they get bounced in the first or second round? Like, what do they do? Oh you gotta start unloading people, right? You just don't worry about it and you move forward, right?

SPEAKER_03

It's a good plan. What'd you say, Adam?

SPEAKER_00

You gotta get rid of cat. I think so.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Cat, yeah, no, cat. I I would be relatively okay with that. I love cat though. He's so sassy and he's funny. Does weird things with his hands all the time, it's awesome. But yeah, you gotta keep Brunny. That's my guy. That's my guy. Brunson's the reason they'll get past the Hawks when it gets to crunch time.

SPEAKER_05

Brunson's gonna figure it out. They got four games.

SPEAKER_03

It's unbelievable, man.

SPEAKER_05

He's so good.

SPEAKER_03

That's why watching the Knicks is so fun. Because like they'll never just like take care of a game like normal people, they'll just let you basically dominate the entire thing or just come back at the end and then they just give Brunson the ball and then win. It's fucking sweet, man. Yeah, awesome. It's a good time. Like that Hawks game, I uh which is it's kind of sick that they're the the the matchup because that game I watched the other night that I had a significant amount of money on was awesome. Awesome game. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

What else is on your guys' minds? C usually comes with a checklist.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I, you know, I've got a lot of golf on my mind right now. I did want to talk about the$500,000 thing. I don't know if we want to do that now or not, but would you guys ever bet somebody$500,000 and like not have it in escrow, not having somebody hold the money or have some like written agreement or something like that, even if those agreements aren't valid for gambling purposes? But would you bet somebody$500,000? Because this is a thing that happened. Would you bet somebody$500,000 just kind of like gentlemen's agreement? You did it on like Twitter Messenger or or texting or whatever, and you're just you win the bet and you're like, oh, I'm getting$500,000 tomorrow or this month or you know, this year. Like, is that how you would make a$500,000 bet?

SPEAKER_03

I don't I don't think I'll ever have that much money to make a$500,000 bet, but um in case I well, apparently the one guy in the scenario is like known as a guy that's good for it, you know, the the not the one who's being accused of not paying, right? Is there more to this, by the way? I think there was a new development that he paid like a hundred K of it. That's right.

SPEAKER_05

He paid he paid a hundred K, which which did for some reason didn't come out when the initial story came out, which I think is a pretty relevant fact because it tells me that he was trying to honor it in some way, but uh yeah, yeah. The one guy, I can't remember his name right now. Uh, he's like he bets that type of money. But who is this man?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, but like I don't know the story at all.

SPEAKER_01

So I was you're a Twitter man, you're a certified Twitter man.

SPEAKER_00

I've been I've been busy.

SPEAKER_05

So this came out like a few weeks ago. Uh there's a guy that works for run, used to work for Run Pure Sports. He was like the face. I mean, I I'm not super familiar with Run Pure, but I know this guy. And to me, he was the face of what you know is a pretty big company that does like DFS and betting and all that stuff, just like some of those other big outfits do. And seems like a pretty good guy, to be honest. Even still, I would say he seems like a pretty good guy. He did a lot of cool shows for football and golf and in some of the that I caught on YouTube. Anyway, he's a pretty big name in the industry. I don't know how long he's been around, certainly longer than me. And apparently, he bet this guy, this guy who's like a big dog who bets a lot of money and people know him in the industry, but he's not, I don't think he's a guy that has like a big following or, you know, like cares to have a following, really. He bet him$500,000 that Kamala Harris would win the last election over Donald Trump. Well, Donald Trump wins. This guy comes asking for his money, and uh, you know, the guy doesn't have it. And they have some communication back and forth, apparently, and still doesn't have it, but finds a way to pay him 100 grand, and then I think basically ghosts him after that. And then this guy, after months and months of waiting for, patiently waiting for it, mind you, basically was like, Hey, everybody in the betting community and on Twitter who you respect this guy, but just so you know, he welched on a pretty large bet, and I want you to know. And so the guy went, the guy deactivated his social media, his Twitter account, where I think he had a pretty big following, uh, got terminated from run pure sports and you know, has never been heard from, as far as I know, since that time. And the and to me, I'm like, yeah, like you shouldn't have done that. But I'm like, who bets 500,000? Like, who's betting$500,000 with with without like any sort of guarantee that the money's gonna show up? I wouldn't even do that for like 10,000 or 5,000, let alone 500,000.

SPEAKER_00

These feel like that stifler challenges Thorb to just like just like just like harmless kind of you know, bullshit talk, right? Like I with without paperwork, you no one can be expected to take a bet of that wager seriously.

SPEAKER_03

I don't expect my friends to pay me when I have like a hundred dollar bet on them with some NFL NVP bet or some shit. Like they're and like I don't really care when they don't, but I just don't expect it.

SPEAKER_05

And so the problem with all of this, of course, is that the guy who got stiffed, you mentioned stifler, the guy who ended up getting stiffed, like was definitely good for the money. Like, he's known to be a guy that that apparently is known to be a guy that makes these bets. So if Kamala had won, he would have definitely paid the$500,000. And so the the thought is that the the guy on the other side, I almost like hesitate to say his name, but like Matthew Wiley probably thought he was gonna win the bet, and maybe just kind of figured if I don't win the bet, I'm I'm not gonna pay the guy, knowing that that guy would have paid him. And I think that's where people have obviously a huge problem with it. But again, I understand that$500,000, like get a third party, have somebody hold that money, get it wired to somebody, have it hold them and hold it in escrow, whatever it is. I just would never count on somebody to just like fork that money over that I that I don't know, like that I don't live next to, for example.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm not I'm nowhere near rich enough to even understand that scenario. So I I just I can't even think about it. I get like there's no way I'm just having a and they're like it seemed like the conversations were pretty casual, just like, oh yeah, like 500k, yeah, got it, good. Okay. I was like, what? None of this, it's fucking nuts, dude. It's not it is nuts. What does that guy do? And how does the the what is companies like run peer sports? They just got fucking money out their ass, like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that's the thing, is I don't think he was in a position to make a bet like that. Like, I don't know what he gets paid from Run Pure Sports, but and frankly, there there was some insinuation that like maybe he was able because I think he controlled some of the finances. Again, I'm speculating here a little bit. This is stuff I heard like second and third hand, that maybe he was able his thought was to like I can maybe get this money from the company. Again, he didn't think he was gonna lose the bet, but I don't think he ever had the money to pay that bet. I don't think he was making that much off of his profession.

SPEAKER_03

He just really thought he was gonna win, as most people do when they pick a side. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Been there, not for that much. Been there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, some, you know, we don't do a lot of in-game betting talk on this show, but since we're going opposite this playing game, for anyone that wants to join the Hornets party here, uh Jaime Hawkes starting the second half ahead of the injured Bam Atabayo.

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, I didn't know that. There goes my money.

SPEAKER_03

I got his under. That's good.

SPEAKER_05

That is a shame. So he's like out for the game. Do you know what happened to him?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if he's out for the game. I just know he's not starting the second half. Jeez.

SPEAKER_05

What another end game. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_00

I said, for all I know, he's taking a doo-doo.

SPEAKER_05

Uh we'll have to find out. But that if that's the case, uh there's no way that he can hold up. That's impossible.

SPEAKER_03

What unfortunate under on a guy to have, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, how spread out are you tonight, though? It's not like that's your only bet. Oh, you have to be fortunate to hear.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's just unfortunate to hear.

SPEAKER_05

You have Bam out of Io's under, is that what you said?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah. He'd be celebrating the BAM under right now. He'd be like, Oh, that'd be cool. Don't you come back?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that'd be better.

SPEAKER_02

That'd be better.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry yet? Yes.

unknown

Good, good.

SPEAKER_05

You gotta call Phoenix Portland game.

SPEAKER_00

That's a tough one to read, man. I I've seen a lot of people in the space on Portland with the points. My and and it's what, like three and a half? I I have not bet it. My feeling is that Phoenix is going to win, but I don't really want to touch props are one thing, but in terms of the side, I don't really want to touch this game. What about you?

SPEAKER_05

I I know a lot of people, smart people, that bet NBA way more than I do that like Portland. I feel like they're getting a little too caught up in in what Portland's done recently. I feel like when it comes to playoff time, teams play a little differently. That's a really young team, outside of a couple veterans that they have. I don't think they're gonna be able to handle the moment personally. I I think I think Phoenix wins in covers. What's that?

SPEAKER_00

Best player on the floor should be Booker.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I mean, Denny Obdiya is pretty good. But yeah, Booker. Dylan Brooks is pretty good. I think it's Phoenix.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't think we know yet if Grayson Allen is playing, which does make a difference. I think he's making time decision.

SPEAKER_05

Thorb, what better are you looking at?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, uh, yeah, I was I was browsing. I didn't get anywhere with it. I was browsing.

SPEAKER_05

So what would you do?

SPEAKER_00

Grayson Allen is listed out, just happened.

SPEAKER_05

Oh wow. Okay. So let's close the uh$500,000 thing with this. Adam, you make a bet for$500,000.

SPEAKER_00

Dare to dream.

SPEAKER_05

You lose the bet, you know you can't pay it, you've got a big following uh on social media, and you kind of rely on that following to some degree. You've got a job in the space. What do you what do you do when you realize, oh shoot, I owe the money?

SPEAKER_00

I I don't make the bet is where it starts.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but that's yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, living in this alternate universe, Jesus. I don't know. Like it's it's I mean, if you don't have the money, like I'm I'm not mortgaging my my entire life and family and everything to chase down a half million dollars to just you know pay some rando to make good on a bet. This isn't like, you know, owing the bank money or something like that. This is a total, you know. I not not that I love the idea of just uh, you know, like you said, deactivating the account and disappearing into the in into nothingness, but I what else do you do?

SPEAKER_05

I feel like that's the only I feel like that's the only option. I will say I heard him on a on a podcast. That that guy who's owed the money, I literally can't remember his name, but he was on a podcast. He said he would have been okay with like a payment plan or something like that, but I guess that just wasn't considered or whatever. Thor, what would you do?

SPEAKER_03

I I thought someone was breaking in Adam's car.

SPEAKER_00

It was kids the kids were soccer's over in the pouring rain. We're gonna go home soon.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, you're you're with your your family?

SPEAKER_00

Well, they just no, they just got okay.

SPEAKER_03

All right, thank you. I was like, dude, something's going on.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god, he's got a knife!

SPEAKER_03

No, oh who broke that. I now I don't even know what the question was, man. I I was like, something's going on in this guy's car, and he's not even reacting.

SPEAKER_05

Adam, we can close the show if you want. Do you need to go?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I think I probably need to go. If you guys want to keep talking, you can.

SPEAKER_03

We can answer one question in the chat if he's got to go because it's about golf DFS, and I'd like that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, do you want do you have some plays, Thorpe?

SPEAKER_00

How many people are watching right now?

SPEAKER_03

I have the answers.

SPEAKER_05

I've uh about uh close to 800.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

But this is a weird time. Like, I feel like our late afternoon shows do a lot better. Obviously, it helps when we're on YouTube. That like really helps, really. But I think that four o'clock time slot is depending. I mean, I don't think it needs to be Thursday, but I think that four o'clock time slot is pretty solid, just throwing that out there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, you you guys uh did me a solid this time around. This uh, we've you know, every once in a while we're we're bending the schedule matrix off of somebody's something else. Uh this one's on me. We'll we'll be back at our normal time next week.

SPEAKER_05

Um, two things. Do you have cheap DFS plays Thorb? And Balake wants to know any events or ideas around the NFL draft.

SPEAKER_03

Any events or ideas around what does that mean exactly?

SPEAKER_05

It means like what are you doing for the NFL draft? Anything fun. That's that's how I see it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, I hate the Dolphins and um don't well. I guess this year it'd be fun to watch the draft because the draft matters a little bit. Um, but yeah, I just watch it with my fellow idiot dolphin fans, and that's about it. Um, and yeah, oh the cheap DFS plays. Now we're talking. All right. Actually, how much do I have? I'm currently at 52 Brian Campbell right now, and that's that's bad. That's bad. That's a lot that's so many, so much Brian. 6k. It's as cheap as you can get, though. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

So David Lipske is 6k as well. Uh, he's been really interesting lately.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you wish, dude. It's Brian Campbell season. Um who else are the really cheap ones I like? Um, I don't hate Jordan Smith at all. Uh yeah, I like that. And oh, it's not getting me prices on the exposure sheet. Um, oh, and a little bit uh this is your boy, right? William Meow.

SPEAKER_05

Meow? William Mao.

SPEAKER_03

Meow Meow.

SPEAKER_05

Uh yeah, I love him. I don't know if this is a great course fit. Uh his around the green play is trash, and that's gonna matter. Don't worry about that. But I I don't hate it. I don't I don't hate that at all, actually.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Those are like the really cheap ones. Those are I like a and the 7k is like really good this week, too.

SPEAKER_05

Adam, you gotta join the uh PGA DFS party. It's super fun.

SPEAKER_00

I love PGA DFS. I haven't done it in a while. I used to be in those streets just like you guys every single week for a couple of years, and I haven't I haven't done much in the way of DFS in about a year, but uh but I I could I could find my way back.

SPEAKER_03

Brian Campbell pushed me and fucked me out of$800. What did he do to you? He's he's fucked me out of probably five grand. Um, and now I'm all in on him. So I get I know how this ends, all right. But just know this if Brian Campbell finishes like T8 this week, I'm fucking rich. All right, I got a lot of shit on him, all right. Uh which he won't, but shit, give me a top 20. Give me top 20 at this point. I'm still doing well.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, it's a no-cut event. You just get two great days out of Brian Campbell and you're good to go.

SPEAKER_03

Brian Campbell top 40 plus 255, by the way. Um, just saying. Good bet.

SPEAKER_00

I won't I'm just wondering how many new words m Torb's teaching my 11-year-old right now.

SPEAKER_05

Oh god. Wait, you don't have you don't have like a speaker, you don't have like a your earbud in or something?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, sorry, kids. Is it two kids in there or just one? Uh there are two in the car. Uh sorry, kids. That's on me.

SPEAKER_00

Good for finding his clip just as the uh just as the clock strikes midnight.

SPEAKER_05

Uh well, this this this probably is a good spot to uh to close the show. We'll we'll be back next week at a different hour. Go download the podcast. No plays off on Apple Spots. You should have said uh Adam Scott Birdie when you found out Adam's kids were in the car.

SPEAKER_03

I totally forgot those kids broke into your car like 10 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah. All right, well, uh yeah, no plays off. We'll come your way Thursday next week, 4 p.m. Eastern time. That is the usual plan, and at least as of this moment, we are looking to uh abide by it. So that's all fun, and hopefully you'll be able to. I mean, you got plenty of runway here from these guys giving you plays that you can invest in ahead of next week's golf tournament or this week's golf tournament, as it were, as well, which is all of what, like two hours away from Augusta? So it's not like most of these guys are are going anywhere. So that's fun. No travel. This is true, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Side note, did you see the Justin Bieber set at Coachella? Just saying, I was I was ahead of the curve. I was ahead of the curve a couple weeks ago on no plays off.

SPEAKER_01

Just saying is gonna see a sharp man. I called it, I called the Bieber future, came in last week. He called Bieber being good. He called it, he saw something in him.

SPEAKER_00

What what do we do when Pocket was already on the network today?

SPEAKER_03

Um, you just say goodbye organically. Um Fitz, Fitz, Speath, McNeely, Vic, Straka, Batia, Thigala, Harmon. That's the card. So just in case no one gets mad at me, if something something bangs, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

All right. Well, so I have from what you just said, I have Speath and Thigala. So if you're gonna pick two, those are the two to pick. Joe, Joe, Joe, your your girlfriend was at Coachella and saw Justin Bieber. Gotta get Joe on the show. Next week on No Plays Off, Joe Newenfeld.

SPEAKER_00

Don't we need to have your buddy guns on?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, uh, he kind of ghosted me last time I reached out, but I don't think he saw the message. So I'll reach out to him again.

SPEAKER_00

All right, yeah, we're for another guest at some point here soon.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's a good call.

SPEAKER_00

All right, fellas. Well, uh, look forward to being in touch on the text thread. Puckett is next, but not really. And uh, thanks to intern Alex, who did not make an appearance, Alex. You want to show yourself?

SPEAKER_04

What's up, guys? What's up?

SPEAKER_00

And on next week show, Sia will interrogate Alex as to why he wears a mustache in the year of our lord.

SPEAKER_05

Can I say this before we close the show? Because Alex, I tend to make fun of people who wear mustaches, which is something I do. Not fake. Well, okay, two things. It is real. I am wearing it, but it isn't fake. Two things. It's not a mustache. You have like you have like a goatee situation, do you not?

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, explains your face in a much different way than a mustache does, so that does not qualify as a mustache, which is why he which is why I didn't even notice it, which is why he looks good with it.

SPEAKER_00

He's got six hairs on his chin.

SPEAKER_05

That's probably fine for his Cot Squire just went from apology to basically getting a you're welcome. And that's how it's done in trial, folks.

SPEAKER_03

Damn, this guy's good.

SPEAKER_00

Undefeated in the court of BNN. All right, for seeing it for Thorb, intern Alex. I'm Adam. My kids are here too. Bye.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, kids. Bye. See ya.