No Plays Off Episode 19

Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off,"  chat about hedging their golf bets, Adam's MLB winning/losing streak betting strategy, some 2027 Super Bowl futures, the Miami Dolphins organization, sponges & so much more!

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Let's do it again. No plays off back at you here on BNN and not. Well, I guess kind of in the in the nick of time, boys, because uh, well, we continue to bounce around the calendar, and we did not have a show last week for the first time actually since launching this show. We missed a week, but we're gonna make it up to you, or at the very least, make it up to ourselves. We're going to have two shows this week, now, obviously, and another one on Thursday. See ya, Thorb. Kough. How are you guys?

SPEAKER_00 0:52

I'm doing great. I I'm psyched that we have two shows. I have a lot to talk about. I I put out my wish list. You did sports topics, we got non-sports topics, we got Thorb here, who, by the way, released a little uh tune for Keith Stewart and some of the some of the golf faction of of Twitter. It's it's uh pretty good tune, Thorb. Uh, so congratulations there. But yeah, I'm doing great. Hey, thanks, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

Uh, I'm doing I'm doing good too. You know, I did do that little tune. It's Keith Stewart and Melvin Gordon, along with uh a few other people. So that was that was cool to do. That was cool to do for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Melvin Gordon, the running back, that's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28

Yeah, yeah, big golf guy, apparently. So uh him and Keith, they're trying to do um how they described it to me was like the sort of like college football live version of golf, huh? Yeah, yeah. So they're gonna be traveling around like um all across the country for like big events. Like I think uh they're doing this week, I think it starts this week uh at the Cadillac Championship, and then I think some majors too, and they they go to like I think they're called five irons, like those simulator places, and they're just gonna do it live from there, which is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

Is this independent of Keith's read the line or is this in conjunction with that?

SPEAKER_04 2:05

Conjunction. Oh, yeah, conjunction, yeah, yeah. Because uh the the other the guy I I don't know if he's the owner of read the line, but um uh Dave Brummel, Brummel, uh one of one of those. Uh he's the one who reached out to to like set everything up.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

So boy, I feel like for that big promo, we should have gotten like at least$25 or something. Yeah, like somebody should have given for all of that.

SPEAKER_04 2:27

That's a good point. That's a good point. Maybe I'll send this to Keith and be like, hey, what do what do we think about compensation here?

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Yeah, yeah. Well, retweet anyway. Subscribe to the podcast. Something, Keith. You gotta give us something back. I mean, come on. Well, what do you got for me today? See ya good to be together again.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Uh, do you want to hear the do you want to hear the wish list?

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Before that, just because you were talking about Thorb music that I had tweeted you and you were confused, see you, which is okay. I didn't really provide any context to this, but I thought maybe Thorb would get it if he saw it. I don't know if he did. Thorb posted something on his Instagram yesterday or the day before of uh I don't know who this kid is, maybe Thorb does, of a child running around playing youth soccer while rapping one of Thorb's songs about Scott.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

I did see that.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Yeah, that's uh Thorbe official voice with micro soccer now.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

I don't I don't know the I don't know the parents, I don't know the kid. Um I just I just randomly got tagged in it and I thought it was incredible. I sometimes forget that like um, especially because a lot of parents tell me that their kids really enjoy like the recaps and everything like that, and I totally forget that kids listen to my stuff too, and then that really makes me think I gotta dial it back on some things that I say because I forget about the kid audience, but uh apparently they still let them listen to it, so that's good.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

You could be the Nate Barghetzi of uh new mainstream rappers, or I guess just the Will Smith, just don't curse.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Yeah, I honestly enjoy not cursing because I think it's harder to make it full song without cursing, believe me, because I curse all the time, so I think it's uh gives it gives a little challenge. Yeah, yeah, me, yeah. Hey, you know what?

SPEAKER_00 4:05

I started you know what I started saying a lot, and at first it was like a joke to myself, but now I'm saying it all the time. Do you Thorb, you want to you want to guess?

SPEAKER_04 4:14

Oh, I thought you were just gonna ratt rattle it off. That's my bad. No, I I don't have a guess.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

No, I was gonna rattle it off, but then I thought if you guessed, your guess would be correct. I just I just say I just say hell yeah all the time. All the time. And again, it's like I'm like trying to be funny, kind of, but then I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna adopt that now.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

So I don't say it all the time, but I text it all the time.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Jeff Stenberg in the chat. Um, I have a parlay out there, baseball parlay. Does anybody want to ride along with me?

SPEAKER_04 4:47

Yeah, sure. Why not?

SPEAKER_03 4:48

What do you got? I mean, I know I know it's a yes. I made one as well, but it was like a no-sweat kind of thing. So it's it's reaching for the stars a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Wood platform, talk to me. So, I mean, you can make it anywhere. I got plus 125 last night, a plus 114 today. It's just uh it's a first five along with a with a money line. It's it's as chalky as it gets. Toronto first five money line with uh Dylan Cesas on the mound against uh who is it? Uh not Christopher Sanchez, Ranger Squad. Yeah, and then I again chalky as chalky can be, I took that minus 150, minus 155, and I parlayed it with uh Dodgers money line, full game money line with Yamamoto on the mound against uh paddock, and that got me to plus 125 last night. It's plus 114 or so now.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

What do you guys think? I I did a uh again, uh this is like a bet reset kind of thing, so I I dare to dream. Mine's like a 25 to one or something, but it does include the blue jays and Dodgers both full game, though.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

All right, that's good. We're on the same page.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Yeah, yeah. The only reason I don't I don't dislike your bet, but the only reason I went full game blue jays as opposed to first five is Ranger Suarez is capable of being good.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Yeah, that's fair. I just think Dylan Cease. The problem is, I mean, Dylan Cease is really good, but he's lost some batters, like he's uh he's walked a lot of batters, so that scares me a little bit, but anyway, I still I still like the play. Sia loves to gamble, says Stifler. Will you ride Lou Dort over three and a half assists at plus 25? 2500, that can't be a real number, right?

SPEAKER_03 6:18

I asked our guy slop about this on any given wager earlier today, as a matter of fact.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

That's not a real number on Lou Dort, is it? It probably is.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

He don't be dishing, he don't be dishing like that.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Um, is is he speaking of uh we you just use the word dislike? I don't think there's a player I dislike more than Lou Dort. And I I said this some time ago when I was saying I don't like watching OKC. Can you think of a more dislikable player than Lou Dort? Name a name, name a name. Okay, nobody comes to mind. There's gotta be if somebody's that disliked, they should come to mind. Grayson Allen, Grayson Allen, come on, that's like a Duke thing. Like, what let's let's fast forward to the present.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Come on. Well, my my other one was even further back in the time machine. I was gonna say Joeem Noah. I hated watching that dude. Hated.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

I get that, I totally get that.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

You just a lot.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Uh like Grayson Allen's not a cheap shot artist anymore. Lou Dort is a legitimate cheap shot artist. There's nobody more cheap shotty than Lou Dart in the entire NBA, not even Draymond Green, not Desmond Bain. It is Lou Dort, and then it's everybody else.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Draymond Green's pretty goddamn close. Yeah, he's he's still hanging out.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Yeah, but he's he's less of a cheap shot guy and more of a I'm just gonna like punch you in your face guy.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

Like Lou Dortmund, he tries to be sly about it, he's just bad at it. He's just bad at that.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

I don't think he's trying to be sly, I just don't think he cares, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

While we're talking about NBA and uh betting, imagine that on this show and network. Uh, let me ask you guys about this one. I I don't know if we can shout out in you know specific books, but one that I I know we're all on stateside. Did you see the uh early NBA up 10 win promo that is available right now? So it's out there, it's uh it's it's on the one that it's it's it's on a fun book, if you will. It starts with an F anyway, and 10 up early win token is what is offered here. Now, the way this particular bet works, because I am debating how I would like to use this promo, and uh maybe we all ride together, maybe you guys just offer your insights. The way this works is you put this, it's not a boost, it's a token. What that means, you put this on any money line in the NBA, not just today, across any game that's listed right now. You could do a favorite if you'd like. A dog probably makes more sense in this context because all that you need is for the team that you wager on to lead by at least 10 points at some point during the game. Don't need to win the game. You could have been Portland last night, for instance, could have been up 17 points at halftime, and you lose the game. Just need to lead by 10, you cash your bet.

SPEAKER_04 9:04

You're gonna pick the Timberwolves, aren't you?

SPEAKER_03 9:06

What's that?

SPEAKER_04 9:07

You're gonna go Timberwolves, is what this is leading to, I believe.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

So Timberwolves, I I don't want to. I'm not they're on my list as far as things I'm thinking about. I you know, I I understand it.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

There's only two plays, in my opinion, unless your boost max is massive.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

410, the Timberwolves, by the way. I just between the the Nuggets desperation and the fact that the Wolves don't have ant and don't have DiVincenzo now. I'm not sure. I one, I don't think they win, but I don't think they even lead by 10 during this game. The ones that I am really thinking about, like magic, sure, but they're too short, plus 140. I and I think the Pistons are gonna win the game. The ones that I am most drawn to are the Hawks at plus 215. That's probably number one on my list. Ouch. I know, sorry, Thorb. I think you'd be foolish not to at least entertain the Raptors at plus 310.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

I thought it was just today, by the way. So I didn't think that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Okay, and then again the Blazers are plus 460.

SPEAKER_04 10:10

Sure. Yeah, your first pick is stupid.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Well, I feel that way. Yeah, if it makes you feel better, I have the Knicks in a moneyline parlay. I expect New York to win. We're just talking about trailing by 10 at some point.

SPEAKER_04 10:23

You don't think that they will do that, they will do that almost instantaneously. They will do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Okay, all right. So you do not think my pick is stupid.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Yeah, no, it's probably a good one. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

They will be down to 10 at some point in that game, so just and and you're getting a decent number plus 215. It's just I'm trying to middle it or I'm trying to thread the needle at that point if I do that, because again, I'm already invested in the Knicks. What what do you guys think? Where would you go with this up 10 promo?

SPEAKER_00 10:51

So if I want to bet Phoenix, that means at plus 400, that means to cash the bet, they need to be up 10 at some point in the game.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

That's that right, correct?

SPEAKER_00 11:00

It would be Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

I don't think that's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

I don't either, but I mean, I I'm not trying to, you know, I'm not trying to bet like a minus 160 team, and they're at home, and there is some sentiment against the OKC. Like it's possible they could get hot for a quarter.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Yeah, it depends how much you're trying to make here. If we're just chasing the odds, which is fine for people that want to do that, I think there's a better chance of the wolves at basically the same number than the Suns leading by 10.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

I think the Nuggets are gonna kill the wolves. It's just it's a perfect time for them to bounce back without their two of their best players. But I hear you.

SPEAKER_04 11:37

I'm gonna I'm gonna try to hit that game live because I'm not betting it at the number now, but I'll take like anything seven and a half and under. So hopefully the wolves stay in it a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Take over and uh this is not for the promo, but we're just talking about the game. What about minus three and a half first quarter on the nuggets?

SPEAKER_00 11:54

I love that. Oh, yeah. I I'd prefer a first half bet, whatever that line is, just because well, what is that line? It's probably kind of kind of big.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

First half?

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Yeah, he said quarter.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

He said quarter.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

First half.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

First quarter is three and a half. I really like that first quarter. I'm gonna play the first quarter bet right now.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

I like it. I prefer the, yeah, fair enough. Thorb's on it too, but I prefer the six and a half. I prefer just the longer sample size of two quarters, even though it's a much bigger line, obviously. But that's what I would go with. I think they'll be up ten and a half. It'll be a well-oiled machine. Like, I don't think Denver's that good, but I mean, you're down 3-1, you're at home, you're still the better team, and no Anthony Edwards and DiVincenzo. Like, good luck.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

Well, that's why I'm kind of leaning into the desperation of the opening quarter. And I don't disagree with the halftime play either. I think they're both gonna hit. I just prefer the first quarter.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

Yeah, that's fair. I like it. I had a sizable wager on the Nuggets and watching Ant go out in the second quarter, I was like, this is the freest money I've ever gotten. But they suck. Felt good for a hot minute. God, I felt fantastic. I was like, they they can't lose. That would be hard to lose. And they not only lost, they lost by a good amount. They suck.

SPEAKER_03 13:11

So we're not riding together on this on this up 10 promo bet, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

So, what did you what did you end up going with? The Hawks?

SPEAKER_03 13:18

I I haven't done anything yet because if I don't need to use it now, if I'm gonna do the Hawks tomorrow, but I feel like the Hawks are my my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 13:27

They will do that. They will do that, they will go up by 10 at some point.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

I think the Suns, uh somebody I I I work with is already on this play, but I I like the Suns plus 11 and a half tonight. Okay, that's fair. You know, it's a Suns game tonight.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

I've got some money line parlays that involve the Thunder. I I think they're gonna complete the sweep, but yeah, I mean the Suns could could hang around.

SPEAKER_04 13:51

Yeah, Adam, do you have the best number on that three and a half quarter?

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Uh, I did not shop it around because I used it on the fun book with a boost to take it to even money.

SPEAKER_04 14:02

Ooh. Okay, yeah. I don't the you said the fun book uh is you got some happy hour boosts.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Make sure you opt in on those, my friend. They're 10 bucks, dude. I don't even do them. Oh, mine was 10 bucks, and I just I just got the jump to 25.

SPEAKER_04 14:16

I don't know, I don't know why, but I did tell you guys uh I finally got limited on DraftKings, and now I'm down to two bucks.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

You showed us this the screenshot, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Of all the books to get limited on, that that that sucks.

SPEAKER_04 14:28

Yeah, yeah, tough times, man. Tough times.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Now, now when you because I remember hearing Jeff Feinberg talk about this on Pat's show. We should have Pat on the show, by the way. We should this show. Let's let's have him. I'll uh I know all of us are friends with him, but I'll give him a I'll give him a text later on today. But um when Jeff he's limited at whatever, but I'm not sure what it is, but he'll he'll basically be able to make the bet you want to make, Thorb, but he'll just mix in like a a minus like 7,000, you know, favorite in some random sport, and they'll let him do the golf bet that he wants to do. Do you have you tried that and do you know if that will work for you?

SPEAKER_04 15:04

Uh yeah, I I'm I'm still not gonna be get uh be able to get down a lot, but it'll help. Okay. Because I think some books I can only bet like one dollar and thirty cents on something. Um, but I think DraftKings, like I've I've tried some and it led me up to like 40, 50 bucks. So that would work on there, um, which I've done. I remember I sent you whatever tournament, I had eight Xander Shoffley parlays, and I didn't expect all of them to hit, and they did, and then Xander Xander didn't win. But um, yeah, I was thinking about doing that with Scotty this week to get a better number because I I already but I already almost fully bet him, but I kind of want to wait to see if I can get them live as well, which we could we can get into our picks on that if you want.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Do you think we need to have a therapy session off of the last tournament? Are you okay?

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Well, so that's the thing. Are you talking about the DP World Tour event? Is that what you were going to? Yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty bad. I didn't realize that Thorb had this guy, Adrian Otegi. Uh Ote Otegi as well. I had a lot on it. Thorb had even more on it. I was up until three in the morning watching the final round because it was over in China. And again, I didn't know Thorb had money on it. It turns out Thorb was up way later than I was watching, he was up all night watching it because he had a lot of money on it. And I wake up at 6 30 in the morning, not because I set an alarm, but because my mind was telling me the tournament's over, like you should check to see if you cashed the two tickets I had on Otegi. And he, when I went to bed, he had a three-shot lead. He was like minus 350 or minus 380 to win the tournament. And there was only one chaser. It's not like there was this chase pack of like five or six guys. There was literally only one guy within range. Everybody else was way back. That one guy within range in those last nine holes, not only caught up, but passed him by three shots. So I wake up and I'm like, I'm like literally doing this. Like, I must be looking at this incorrectly. There's no way this happened. And Thorb.

SPEAKER_04 16:54

Yeah, that was uh that was a really fun watch at 5 a.m. in the morning. Um, yeah, dude, that was so bad. I gotta I had the most clear hedge opportunity, and I usually every like um every big better you always see like never hedges, right? Which is like I feel like a maybe like they try to be cool by not hedging, and like they say they don't hedge anything. Hedging is so fucking smart, especially in golf. Like I was staring at he had a three-shot league, like like Sia said. I was staring at a plus like 385 on the only guy who could get him. I uh my if the guy won the outright, I would have won 2200 bucks. I just needed to put 400 bucks on the guy behind him, and even if my guy still won, cool. 1800 is still sweet. You know what I mean? I gotta like, I just don't, but it seemed so which it does a lot of times. It just seems like I don't know, he was the better golfer, like he was up three, back nine. Like, I don't know, but just hedge people if you have like a big I've come around to it.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

I was very anti-hedge for uh a while, years, and I've I wouldn't say I do it like any opportunity now, but I'm much more open to it than I ever was before.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

Yeah, well, I when I used to I used to bet golfers just to win a thousand, and that's that made it more hard for me to hedge because like if I if I was winning like if I hedged to win like 500, I wouldn't even be like that hyped about it. Like I get hyped for like the bigger ones, so I would still be pretty fucking hyped at 1600 bucks on a on a 5 a.m. China tournament, you know what I mean? Uh so stupid, bad move.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Where does for all the you know people like to do rankings, right? Like rank the beer, airport beer, shower beer. Where on the list of painful moments outside of like real tragedy and loss, does waking up to see that a bet lost that you were so certain was gonna win? Where does that fall? It's a terrible feeling, it's awful.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Yeah, I mean, we're we're in a stage where we just tend to watch them out. It just so happens that, like, I I had made the decision I wasn't going to stay up all night, so it doesn't happen quite as often. But do people say often or often? People say often, right? I always say the tea, yeah, often. All right, I'll try to say often. I just don't feel like you're a tea guy, okay?

SPEAKER_03 19:21

I'm gonna make Toronto as opposed to Toronto. Oh, people say Toronto, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

Toronto, yeah, actually, because that sounded kind of right to me.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yeah, Toronto. I mean, why would we take the tea out there? You just do, it's too much teas. Okay, fair enough. Take it out. I didn't know that. Yeah, uh, I don't see sometimes I'll ask the question and I'll be like, no, I say it that way, but then I don't really know how I actually say it. So I'm not even sure if I'm on the silent tea in Toronto. No, I'm I'm definitely not. Um, on the scale, it's I mean, you kind of have to just put it on a betting scale. It's like it's like one of the worst things that can happen outside of just a crazy bad beat. But yeah, it can ruin, like, it'll ruin for me, like most of the the rest of the day. The only thing that salvaged it for me is the Fitzpatrick Brothers one. I didn't have them pre-flop, but Friday morning at like 9:53 a.m., I saw that they were 27 to one, which was almost triple their odds. And I'm like, and they had already started out the round and they were like playing pretty well. And I'm like, okay, this is it was like borderline wrong because other books ended at 17 to one. And so I hit that pretty hard. So I ended up winning a decent amount of money on the weekend. But if I hadn't won that, I would have been like, you know, you're always thinking like the world is against you, you have no perspective whatsoever. And it's like, dude, it was a 50 to one shot out in China. Like, I like I had no business winning that bet, but when they're in position, it does hurt.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

Yeah, I'll tell to kind of go back to Adam's question. I'll tell you what I would have rather done go to sleep when Sia went to sleep. Yeah, that's that's what I would have rather done. So maybe that's better. As opposed to he went, he went to sleep in a happy place. Yeah, he went to sleep in a nice happy place. Guys up three, you know what I mean? I went to sleep pissed, just angry.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Well, what's funny too is right when I went to sleep was on the ninth hole of that tournament. It was on the 10th hole on the term where Bern Wiesberger chipped in, and that would have been like, Oh, now I have to keep watching, and then I would have actually witnessed the train wreck from three to six, and I would have been like way more disappointed. So I I'm actually glad I got out of it.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

I turned it in on the chip in as he was doing it, so it was my it could. This is could have been all my fault. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

I blame myself all the time when I'm like monitoring a game, but then I I turn it on and like the worst thing happens to my bet. As soon as I turn it on, I'm like, oh, that was me.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Just instantaneously, just a three pointer from half court just gets drained. Makes no sense.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

I told you guys if usually if there's a bet I really care about, as opposed to just like a smaller one that I'm just having fun with, usually I won't watch the game. I believe with all of my being that I am bad luck for my bets. You don't watch.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

You don't have the inverse of because like sometimes you know, if if I check on the bed, it's not good doing doing well, I'm like, oh shit, the boys need me. You know what I mean? And then I'll pop sometimes, but yeah, I do that a lot.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

But if something is going well, I won't go anywhere near it.

SPEAKER_04 22:14

Ah, okay. See, I don't do that enough. Maybe maybe I'm ruining the the ones that are going well.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

Yeah. Stay away.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

I'll watch it if it's going well, but if something like really bad happens in the first like three minutes, I turn it right off. I change it to something else. 100%. But if it's going poorly, sometimes I'll just watch. I mean, I'll I I won't I won't watch it anyway because it's going poorly. I'm like, all right, I'm out. I I've lost this one.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

Speaking of going well, Thorben. I don't even know if you know. I don't know if you're on top of this stuff on a daily basis, but probably not. We had talked about how through March anyway, you were having a really good year, really good first few months of the year.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

Um Nuggets hurt me bad, bad. But um, yeah, I I I'm up this month. Uh well, up is up. I usually I usually just give you guys exact numbers, don't I? Yeah, um typically, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

If I remember right, you were up like 14 or 15k through March on the year.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Uh okay, so let's let's go let's go to see. Yeah, I'm up I'm up 13 now. Uh not bad.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Can I can I say this? I the NBA, even though it's the playoffs and it's it's a lot more like definitive in terms of what you're gonna get from each team. Yeah, I the one thing I'm disciplined about is not putting and this doesn't apply to any other sport, just the NBA. That's a sport where I've actually got my limits. Like even if something looks like completely golden, I'm not like betting the house on it like I might in golf or in college or football or NFL or even baseball. There's something about the NBA that I just feel like something just is inherently gonna go wrong. So I'll bet a good amount, but I'm never gonna be like all in on an NBA bet. It's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04 24:04

I'm a big live better of the NBA. Yeah, I get that. The swings are just nuts. Like, for instance, I don't want to bet the nuggets at 11 and a half. So if I can get it seven, eight, I'm gonna take it instantaneously, and then just yeah, because I I hate betting pre-game NBA, and then two minutes in, I could have got double the number, you know. Like, I that drives me crazy, and like, yeah, it could go the other way, but typically doesn't, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Well, look, I mean, case in point, as uh intern Alex here behind the scenes, a biz in the chat, I'm up 45.3 units since March first. Thorb, you passed me the good hands. Hey, as long as long as somebody's doing well around here, that's pretty yesterday. The uh, like the the Spurs, and and I didn't, you know, really do anything with it because I was skeptical, and shame on me. But for anyone that hopped on, Spurs were plus 350 on the money line at halftime yesterday, down by 17 and proceed to win that game by 21. Yeah, now I thought plus 10 and a half, like just the spread, plus 10 and a half. To me, that was an auto play, like that was a no-brainer. I was skeptical they were gonna come all the way back and actually win the thing, and they were basically tied like five minutes into the third.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Uh yeah, I um I turned I to I stopped watching that game because I thought I lost because I took the money line when it moved to Spurs at even money. I was like, Oh, good bet, good bet. Then at half they're down 17. I was like, fucking terrible bet. Let's get this shit off my screen. And then um, and then I checked like four hours later, I was like, what the hell happened, dude? That's crazy. It's nuts.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Oh, it's funny comment from Joe Newenfeld in the chat. He's in the YouTube chat. By the way, we are on YouTube, so for those of you that are watching, if you want to check us out on YouTube, go ahead at your betting news. But uh, he says Thorpe has to be up after stealing the DK money. So just to be clear though, because you have been the hottest golf better that that I've I've seen so far in 2026, and I've seen a lot. That does include the the DK cash out situation, does it not? The up 13.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

That's like an extra 2200 from the DK scam. No, I didn't, I didn't scam it, it was their fault. So it was their fault.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Nobody got nobody got scammed, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

So I I've stacked another like 11 on top of that. So we're we're yeah, we're doing all right. This is definitely the best year I've had by a long shot. So we'll see if I can uh we might talk in two months and shit might be right back to where it was. We'll see.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

So what are your uh we talked about this yesterday? What are your Cadillac picks? Do you have them finalized, or you just got a couple that you've bet?

SPEAKER_04 26:34

Yeah, I did something that I've never done in my entire life. You bet Scotty Scheffler. Actually, I did it one other time and he won. So maybe two for two. But yes, I bet Scotty Scheffler. And I had a$50 bonus bet which went on Hovlin without Scotty. So try to get a little little little two for one there. Um the odd one. Yeah, I got Hoblin without Scotty. Was he's 28?

SPEAKER_00 26:57

It's 28 now. It was 26 last night, so his number's getting a little bit longer. It's around 28.

SPEAKER_04 27:02

Yeah, I re bet it because I was pissed. I saw it went up to 28. Yeah, I get that.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

It's disrespectful.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

It's disrespectful, man. I just did it. Um, so yeah, Scotty, I the best I could find is 320. I didn't think about the parlay thing, I should have just been parlaying a bunch of stuff with Scotty, but um 320, I think, is like right around where he normally is, and there's no Rory, there's no Fitz, there's no Ludwig. If there's like a time to do it, in my opinion, especially for this course, yeah. No Xander, dude. Like, it's that's why I thought he'd be in the twos, to be honest, when I when I first looked. So I'll take it. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Chats with you, by the way. Riding first five Blue Jays, Dodgers, full money line parlay. He got it plus one twenty-four. Yeah, one twenty-four. That's a nice number. I'll take it. I got it.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

That's great, Todd. I got it at plus one twenty-five last night, plus one fourteen today. But that honestly, I wasn't even searching, I just went to the book I normally bet at. So I have two different books I bet a lot at, and one was the plus one twenty-five, one was the plus one fourteen. Uh an hour ago was the plus one fourteen. But you could always do that, Thorb, with Scotty Shuffler, see how those odds turn out.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Starting about I've told people, and I've talked about it here. My uh MLB system plays the trend betting, and uh, the the plays today, for anyone wondering, because we do talk about this from time to time. Rays, mariners, white socks, pirates are the money line parlays today. Again, Rays, Mariners, White Sox Pirates.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

As I check my spreadsheet, those are teams to win today. What about the losing streak teams?

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Uh, those those are just you know, whether I I don't I couldn't even tell you which side they're on, those are just the teams I invested in today, whether whether they are you know going against a losing streak, oh I see on a winning streak. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Are you saying I should pair these with Scotty Scheffler? Let me uh see what I got here.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I am I am telling you these are blind system plays. You gotta ride that roller coaster with me if you want. These these are not like jump in on Monday, April 27th plays necessary.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

So when you were out of the country, were you able to get on top of it every day?

SPEAKER_03 29:01

I had somebody back home taking care of it for me. Because weren't the Mets like on a historic like on a losing streak 12 in a row, which was obviously good for the uh good for the trend betting.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

So basically, from game four or game three on, you were just betting against the Mets? Yes, that's amazing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

And you know, we we've seen like the Phillies sucked for a while. The the Cubs and another couple teams went on like eight nine-game winning streaks.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

So the the Cubs went on a nine-game winning streak all against the Phillies in the Mets, anyway. Carry on, right?

SPEAKER_03 29:32

So the I I'll just tell people so we've been doing this now, or I've been doing this now for a month. I mean, we're a month into the year at this point, and which has in total been ballpark, it's been about 170 bets since the start of the year going on or against uh you know streaks of three plus games. It was bad out of the gate. It was like the first two weeks, I was down 20 units doing it. It was bad. And then with these long streaks, as again, like I say, get on the roller coaster, it got hot, it flipped, and now I am down overall. I'm down, but I'm down two units. Easy peasy, so it's you know, it's uh it's storm back the other way, and you know, we again we we see how it goes. It's gonna be a lot of the a lot of this, depending on the the winning and losing.

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Yeah, I tried to break the Mets uh losing streak with a hefty wager, it didn't work. They won the next night.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Thorb, where do the uh where do the Knicks end up here in the playoffs? We know they're not winning at all. Where do they end up?

SPEAKER_04 30:42

Yeah, winning in the championship.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Which do you actually now? It's a best of three, and they are favorites, but do you believe they're gonna beat the Hawks?

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Oh, yeah, yeah, they're so much better than the Hawks. They're so much better than the Hawks. It's funny, me and my buddy are watching the other day, and we're just like thinking about the players on the floor, like in our starting lineup, and they're and we're like, we should be really fucking good. And they're just they're just not, and it doesn't really make much sense to my brain. They're all so good, they're all they're all really good players. Like, if mcall bridges, like mccall bridges was was a number one option on his team before he came and sucked ass. Well, I don't he doesn't suck ass super overrated, I think. Yeah, but still, he was still the guy over there, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 31:24

And Phoenix or in Brooklyn. Brooklyn. Oh, okay. I mean, that's not a real team, but I hear you.

SPEAKER_04 31:30

Well, yeah, but what well when you get a guy like that and he's like your third, you'd think, hey man, we're we're doing something here, you know. And he's not even our third, it's OG. OG is a dog. I love OG. Um, but yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Bridges exists. Yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

He's a great defender, like it's not like he's a bad player. I just don't think he's like a really core key guy to a championship team necessarily.

SPEAKER_04 31:56

I just think they they have they have no idea how to run an offense with any of these players. Like, it's it's so hard to watch at times. Like, most of the time, they don't even start moving or passing until there's eight seconds left on the clock, and it's it's infuriating, man. Because like they they barely even run pick and rolls with Kat and J and uh Brunson. Like, it's it's they only get Brunson or Kat the ball at like the three-point yard line, never give it to him in the post, which he wins like 90% of the time when he's there. They drive me nuts, man. Drive me nuts.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Given how weird this first round has been so far, and maybe your answer is no different than it was going into the playoffs, but taking off your next hat, both of you though, what's the NBA finals right now as you see it, based on what you've seen so far? Most people are gonna say this the the thunder, but you know, I'll you guys go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

Thorpe, I mean, it looks like it's gonna be the chalkiest option you have, I guess. I mean, like so Thunder Celtics, I yeah, which is just a cop-out answer. So, so yeah, um, yeah, Nick Spurs, then, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

So, my my pre-playoff pick, which I which I'm pretty sure we discussed on the show, was Spurs and the Celtics. I'm sticking with that.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Okay, there's a little bit of hate going on, about uh when he's melting his head off the floor.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

Oh, yeah, when he smashed his face in the in the yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

Yeah, I mean it it looks like he's fine, which is great, but how how concerning was was that for you in that ticket at the time? Oh, just a concussion, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

I mean, NBA concussion. I mean, I it that was such a slow motion, like awkward fall, which is pretty much every Wembleyama fall, but I didn't think that was going to be a big deal. I was actually impressed though. Portland certainly like playing a little bit better, like Scoot Henderson with 31 a couple of games ago. Like, I didn't see stuff like that coming, but I mean that series is over. And if OKC has issues with Jalen Williams and his injury, I mean the door's definitely open for the Spurs. Hell of a name, Scoot is, eh? How can you take that guy seriously, right? You can't probably not God given. No, but like you you can't be a star in the NBA if your name is Scoot, you just gotta use no, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

You're a role player as Scoot.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

You're a six man at best.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

Yeah, when he's on the bench, hey, scoot over, yeah, move down the line.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

Um, speaking of finals, so I was doing a show earlier today, and we were talking about the NFL draft, but the the segment evolved into fortunately, because talking NFL draft and draft grades, I think is is kind of whatever, but it evolved into like some win totals that we like and and unders and overs, but then we got to the Super Bowl matchup. And because I was preparing for that segment, I went on you know, the sportsbooks and I looked at Super Bowl, like not just champions, I looked at like Super Bowl exactas because I wanted some inflated crazy number. So the one I chose, at least one of the ones I will choose, I haven't bet this yet, at 80 to one was the Rams, and that you have to get the exacta rightly. You have to actually pick the Super Bowl winner, the Rams over the Chargers, 80 to 1. I still like the Rams in the NFC, but I feel like you could make that bet with like one or two other teams in the AFC and just call it a day at 80 to 1, 60 to 1, you know, whatever, 55 to 1, depending on who you pick. Any thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_04 35:10

What would the dolphins be?

SPEAKER_00 35:13

It's not even on the board, they're not gonna take that money. They're too honest.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Help me help you save you from yourself.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Yeah, I kind of like that because what are the Rams just uh just to win the bowl?

SPEAKER_03 35:26

I mean, they're the chalk, they're the favorite. I think eight, what, eight to eight to one?

SPEAKER_00 35:30

It might even be shorter than that. I'll check in a second. Really? I know to win the NFC they're in that four to one range, which is still kind of crazy if you think about it. There's some obviously Seattle's, you know, in their division, sure.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Yeah, that's a gross number, though. Yeah, I mean, it depends on the I the we don't need to talk about it because I'm sure like I know we've talked about on other shows, you guys have probably talked about it elsewhere, but the Rams are just like high comedy for me right now with all this McVeigh and Ty Simpson stuff, and it it is like uh it's absurd. This is this is really the the major thing for me, especially considering we're talking about the team that is the betting favorite to win the Super Bowl. I hate that they didn't use a first round pick to go out and actually help this year's team. Totally enjoyed some other area to address a position of need or depth or whatever. Like you love the pick because you don't like the Rams, it's not like you like Ty Simpson.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

No, oh well, one no nobody knows about Ty Simpson yet. I just think that good teams that are good for a while do this, they do they do something like this, they get they look for that future quarterback because Stafford's gonna be there maybe one to two more years, sure. So, like, why not? If they love this guy in the event in evaluation, just take him.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Clearly, I normally I normally agree with that, but I don't think Ty Simpson is is great. That's true.

SPEAKER_04 36:52

Sure, but you don't know shit, see ya.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

That's kind of true, but like I mean, we watched enough games at Alabama where it didn't look like Ty Simpson was special. That I mean doesn't mean Sean McVeigh can't turn like Sean McVeigh and Shannon, they can turn quarterbacks into anything, like we've seen that. But I mean, again, if that's if that's true, then you don't need to waste a mid-first round pick on Ty Simpson because again, you can make you know lemonade out of lemons, and I just feel like this is a Super Bowl team, like beef up the defense, the offensive line, whatever it is, even at receiver, they could have been lethal, yeah, and instead they go Ty Simpson. They can they can find a quarterback somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Yeah, I mean and McVeigh both acknowledged not even watching, not not watching film, they obviously watched him in college, but did not review, you know, did effectively didn't prepare to draft this kid. Like, I there's a backstory there that nobody is being told, whether it's Les Sneed's connection to Ty Simpson's dad or whatever it is, there's something that is not being told to the rest of us here externally, uh you know, from that organization. Because you for McVeigh to come out and say he didn't even review film on the kid, neither of them even talked to him. Ty Simpson said he he he he never had a meeting, he talked to some scouts at Alabama from the Rams. Nobody anticipated this, so I I would just love to know what caused it.

SPEAKER_04 38:13

I didn't know any of that. That's uh I figured that that'd be somebody like McVeigh was banging the table for.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

No, I it did it appeared that McVeigh wasn't necessarily from his body language that he wasn't necessarily behind this pick, or even on board with it, let alone behind it. Yeah. Uh Joe says the Rams were not great the last two months, lucky to win even one playoff game. So, I mean, first of all, they had some injuries on the defensive side of the ball, which lends itself to hey, maybe you should have drafted one of the great defensive players. But I don't know if they were bad the last two months. They lost some games that I thought they would win. They lost to Carolina in Carolina, like that's not a good look. Um, they had some issues, but the truth is they would have had home field advantage if they didn't allow Seattle to make that ridiculous comeback that included a crazy two-point conversion and a kickoff return and all those things. They would have had home field advantage, not Seattle. And I promise you, it sounds ridiculous, but they would have been the Super Bowl representative. That came down to home field advantage in the NFC Championship, in my opinion. And so, yeah, they stumbled a couple times, but they were again one crazy couple of plays away from securing home field advantage in a in a tough NFC in NFC West.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

Yeah, I agree. Uh, I mean, because like I I'm in the well, my team has sucked my whole life, so I'm in the position to just take take a QB whenever the hell nothing matters if you don't have so like even after Stafford, you're gonna suck if you don't have anybody. So why not take a shot on a kid if you really like him? I would have to I would have taken him at 12. I don't care. Like, uh even we just saw this, I don't give a shit. I would have took him. I normally won't have anything if you don't have a quarterback, you have nothing.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

I agree, and which is why I didn't hate the Michael Pennix Kirk Cousins thing, especially with cousins coming off in the kids and being old and all those things. But in this situation, yeah, I get Stafford is old and injury prone, but I I I feel like you could have gone out and just in free agency, like figured something out, get a like a Jacoby Brissett type. If you're trying to secure that quarterback position for for time period that Stafford is there, there were probably some guys on the open market you could have schemed for, they're your backup quarterback, and now you've got like a a secondary guy that you can really lean on.

SPEAKER_04 40:15

Yeah, but they weren't drafting a backup quarterback, they were drafting a guy theoretically for time after Stafford.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

I would have done it a year from now, and I know Stafford could be done a year from now, but I would have done it a year from now.

SPEAKER_04 40:26

Well, but bottom line here, if Ty Simpson is good, none of this conversation even matters.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Because then they did the then they did the right thing. They get they get saluted if he's good. I just don't I'm like Tia, I don't believe he's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Yeah, I mean, fucking that this I I love the um you guys just see like all like fan bases just like like oh I can't believe our team drafted this guy, like this guy, this draft sucked, like uh like you guys don't know shit. You so like there's because I was watching because dolphin fans are absolutely lunatics, right? So um everyone was so angry, especially at the first pick, um, with Proctor, and it's just god, like it's all right. Here's my thing with when you have an entire new staff, right? So you got you got the new new co basically everybody's new, and once again, you don't know shit. Nobody knows shit. There's like six people out there that maybe know shit, right? And and 99 of these fans don't know a fucking thing. So when you have a new staff, you let them pick whoever the hell they want, and you see if they did a good job. Like if it was still the same guy, if it was Chris Greer picking all these picks, yeah, I'm sure all these picks suck, but you got a new guy, and if he could coach how you want him and how he got hired to coach, especially the first pick, like his problem is like he's lazy, came in overweight, or whatever. If this coach is as good as you hired him to be, he will fix that part and he's gonna be a good player. So just wait and see and shut up. There we go.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

I'm just trying to keep up with the you don't know shit, also no shit. Like, there was a lot of you know, you save it.

SPEAKER_04 41:57

I did a I did a no shit with the no shit. Oh, yeah, yeah. We we need a montage. The Rams go better GMs, man, or just they're they're they're out of their goddamn minds.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Well, there are people who like are definitely faking it a little bit, and they're like breaking down film, and it's like, no, you don't know how to watch film. Yeah, that's not right. Like, that is a lane lane. If you're gonna step in, and there are people that can step in that lane for sure, but like if you're gonna step in that lane, you better like know what you're talking about. So, again, my Ty Simpson criticism is is kind of loose. I mean, I have been watching football for a long time, and I do understand concepts like pocket presence and you know, leading your receiver into windows and you know what transfers from from college to pro, but I certainly don't know, I don't have all the answers there. But Ty Simpson just doesn't, especially for the Rams, just doesn't appear to be that guy uh this year, where they're again plus 800 to win the Super Bowl, leading the pack, Seahawks plus 950, Bills 10 to 1, Ravens 10 to 1, which is that weird, yes. Why are the Ravens like I would think 12, 15 to one, but anyway, Chiefs 15 to one, Niners 16 to one. So we have in the top six teams, we have three teams from the NFC West, which is crazy. Then it's the Eagles also at 16 to 1, the Patriots 16 to 1, Chargers 16, Packers 16, slight drop off to the Texans and Lions right after that.

SPEAKER_03 43:19

Yeah, I would venture. I'm sorry, I was gonna say with just breaking news from Shams. I forgot it was even award season still. Congrats for anyone that has a Cooper of the Flag Cooper up the flag, Cooper Flag rookie of the year ticket. Uh, he's he's won.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 43:35

Yeah, yeah, it does make sense.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Alex is pumping his fist. It appears he has a future, he had a future on Cooper Flag. You could not have given that to Con Kanipple. What are we doing? Like the league's not gonna let that happen.

SPEAKER_03 43:45

The last like month or two of the season, you absolutely could have.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

Yeah, you could have, but it I just feel like it was never gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

Sure, I get it.

SPEAKER_04 43:55

But uh, I was gonna say back to like sort of the Ty Simpson thing, I would venture to say. Because once again, good teams do this. I bet you they draft a QB again next year. Maybe not as high. Um, but because once again, if you do not have a QB, you don't have a thing. That's me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

You can't do that if you have Stafford coming back.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Sure you can.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Yeah, I think you can too.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

Yeah, you it's second round. Like who's this? I've seen enough second round picks in my day drafted by my dog shit organization that don't amount to a fucking thing. So if you draft a quarterback and he doesn't amount to a thing either, oh well, that that cornerback you drafted out of fucking Cincinnati might not work either. So just draft a QB.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

Well, the the big rumor that everybody wants to push is that Joe Burrow is not happy in Cincinnati and that he's gonna be a ram when Stafford retires. That's fun.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

That might keep McVeigh around.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

That might keep McVeigh around. Yeah, that would be super fun. All right, so if it's not the Rams versus the Chargers, I know you're not looking at the exact odds, but I kind of am. So anybody wanna anybody want to throw a couple teams out?

SPEAKER_03 45:05

I'd have to really look. It's hard to not get chalky, even though last year, obviously, we saw the most unlikely Super Bowl matchup of like maybe ever. When you know, we had a preseason what 60 to 1, a preseason 80 to one. So it's I I just I don't see it. Like I you know, I don't know about the Ravens. I do like the Bills, which again, big surprise. We're talking about a team that's in the top five. Chargers, just I'm not I like Harbaugh and I like a lot of their pieces, but I'm just not sold on the Chargers. There's something maybe it's just organizational DNA, but there is something about that team I can't get behind.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Okay, so here's the thing I got this wrong last time because we were talking about Denver, and I was like, Oh, Mike McDaniel went to Denver. He's obviously the OC of the Chargers, correct? Yeah, thanks. I think that is a huge difference for the Chargers. I think they're I think Justin Herbert is gonna be like, I'm not saying he's gonna be MVP, I think he's gonna turn Justin Herbert into the quarterback that we all conceive of Justin Herbert being. And we know this defense when it's healthy and the offensive line when it's healthy, uh, super strong. I think the Chargers, I'm not saying they're under the radar, but I think the Chargers with a good OC, I think are super dangerous.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

You guys are gonna learn quick how much of a dweeb Mike McDaniel is and the most overrated over uh overrated play caller of all time. No chance.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

He's what he's he's he's a top five play caller, horrific play caller in Miami, absolutely, but you can't ignore what he did. Not I mean, not only the first couple years in Miami, but prior to Miami. I mean, the dude has has been an elite OC.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

There's his limitations were were more that started interrupting his limitations were more than any other OC had, like it almost in the history of the NFL, because you could not let Tua get hit, you couldn't let him even buy time and break the pocket because he might get hit. You had to run plays where the ball was getting out in two seconds, which defensive and defensive coordinators like knew they knew that was coming, but you had no choice. That's how you had the game plan for the quarterback that you had. This is a completely different ballgame now for him.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

The thing I'm about scoring more than three points when Tua was not in. Well, that's what I mean. The thing that alarmed me, and I uh again, obviously, this is where Thorpe is coming from, is how unimaginative the play calling was anytime Tua was unavailable.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

Who were the quarterbacks, though? Sure, but no, there's no sure, you can't say sure, like they were awful quarterbacks. There's not, I mean, there's no debate about that.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

I mean, I've I've seen it done where you can score more than three points better in Baltimore than he did every single time in Baltimore, every single time, and by leaps and bounds, like did he perform like Skylar Johnson or Thompson or whatever the hell his name is. Sure, you don't even know his name.

SPEAKER_04 47:48

That's how we had Teddy Bridgewater that everyone thinks was a good backup. Nobody thought that nobody thought Teddy Bridgewater was good. That's how much he liked them.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Listen, Teddy Bridgewater's a good guy, even when he was in his prime, he was talking back back. He was not good even in his prime.

SPEAKER_04 48:08

I'm he was considered I didn't know Bridgewater had to show you. I could show you seven media clips of everyone saying Bridgewater was going to replace Tua that year when we when we signed Bridgewater.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

I'm just saying, that was a model that was the inventory of Tua, not of anyone Smith.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

You had HM, they couldn't do anything, they couldn't move the ball at all.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

That was Teddy Bridgewater couldn't throw for more than 70 yards in a game when we got because he can't throw.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Well, you why listen, you guys got to watch the games. You can't just you can't just chase the box scores afterward and be like, every game, it's my team. Yeah, well, you're not paying attention because Teddy Bridgewater did not look fit to play quarterback, it was very obvious. He looked a backup, he's not even a third string in the NFL. He looked not just a good guy every knows the playbook. That's it. He was putting up points wherever else he was, wasn't he? Not really.

SPEAKER_04 48:55

He couldn't put up a single point with the Dolphins.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

He was bad. He's not a backup quarterback in the NFL. So you put any Teddy Bridgewater, the U Dolphins.

SPEAKER_04 49:06

Yeah, look, Ted Teddy Bridgewater was a serviceable guy when we got him. Serviceable, very serviceable, and couldn't and and looked like he'd never played football a day in his life when he was in the he was serviceable 10 years ago before he quit the NFL to coach high school football.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

That's just the reality of it.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

It was not five years ago when we signed him, or whatever the hell that was. When everyone was calling he was gonna take he was gonna take over.

SPEAKER_00 49:34

I mean, I that I don't know what that says about the dolphins or the the quarterback position. They they did not have a quarterback. Skyler Thompson, Teddy Bridgewater. That's that's not good. Quinn Ewers, Quinn Ewers, yeah, rookie quinnures, seventh round, right? Sixth or seventh round.

SPEAKER_04 49:49

You you put you put uh you put Skyler Thompson on on the Rams. He puts up 10 10 to 10 to 17 points. I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Well, that might be true. I mean, McVeigh and Shanahan are the two. That's why I didn't say McDaniels was the the top coordinator, because there's two that are clearly better than him. You'll see, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

I'm willing to put Justin Herbert's a good quarterback, so like they're gonna have a good offense. They have a good offense every year. I'm just saying this McDaniel guy is gonna get so much credit for basically just having a very good team now.

SPEAKER_00 50:20

I think we're gonna see Justin Herbert play a little bit better than we've seen Justin Herbert ever play. And I think it's because of the offensive coordinator.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

He's gonna have a healthy O-line for once, and then everyone's gonna be like, Look what McDaniel did. He didn't do fucking shit. He got figured out his second year when uh in in Miami and then didn't know what to do. He had no idea what to do. Once all those passes over the middle that he schemed up, didn't it work? He had no fucking clue what to do, and he uh he manages clock worse than any human being. You know how many timeouts we called after a timeout? It was unbelievable. The guy, the guy is so overrated, man. Just because he looks like a nerd and everyone thinks he's a fucking genius.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

Yeah, no, stiffler, aka Joe Newenfeld. Justin Herbert might statistically be the worst playoff QB ever. I mean, can he just win a game? Like that might be true. Never mind winning the Super Bowl or being in the Super Bowl. Can he just win a game?

SPEAKER_04 51:14

I'm I'm a I'm a very O-line apologist, so like I give people a lot of credit until you actually have human beings that could block for you. Um, but you know, we will see. CJ Stroud had a bad enough game to set him back like seven years of stats. So uh yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

So I don't well go ahead. What's the Super Bowl call then? Joe said Niners versus what did he say? Niners versus the Ravens.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

I do not believe the Niners are going to be there.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

When's uh when's Mahomes come back? Because I would like to get them supposed to be back for week one. Yeah, give me give me the Chiefs in one of those exactness. That's kind of what I'm looking at.

SPEAKER_00 51:53

No, I feel like the Chiefs' day might be done.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

No, I just I I mean he's coming off a torn ACL. Like, let's can we see what it looks like first a little bit? I think they're gonna be run heavy. I think like I've I've got a Kenneth Walker MVP ticket.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

I think that's that's the dumbest bet I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

Wait, Kenneth Walker MVP, you said, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

What a fucking lunatic this guy. I'm not saying it's a it's it's like a full unit wager or something like that, but I think the number was 30 to 1 or or more than that.

SPEAKER_04 52:23

I think Walker should be 400 to one. A running back is not winning the MVP.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

Also, no, it's it he's not, but it's a it's a justifiable long shot. Okay, I don't know that Mahomes. Oh, you know what? I'm I'm sorry, I don't have MVP on him. I do have I do have an MVP ticket on uh on uh Gibbs at and and his is the one I'm thinking of 125 to one. No, I the 30 to one I'm thinking of on Kenneth Walker's offensive player of the year.

SPEAKER_04 52:51

Okay, I was gonna say you've got the worst number ever in history.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

Yeah, yeah, he probably is 400 to one to win MVP. Yeah, no, offensive player of the year is what I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_00 53:01

So Thorb, Chiefs versus who?

SPEAKER_04 53:03

Uh it's very hard not to go chalk on the other side, so I don't um that's kind of what I was looking at.

SPEAKER_00 53:11

So is the chalk the Rams? Like who are you taking?

SPEAKER_04 53:13

Uh I would take the Rams over Seattle, but that's that's too it's too easy.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

Well, just so you know, the Rams to beat the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl. What do you think that number is? I don't know why I can't find it.

SPEAKER_04 53:25

Oh uh I what I think it is is 75 to 1. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Do you nail it right on the nose? Right on the nose. Yeah, I'm looking at it, dude.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Uh I was like, that's why I hesitated. I was waiting for him to be like, I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, uh yeah, that's a big number, though. That's a tall number for two teams that I think people think are gonna go potentially to the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_04 53:52

I'll tell you what, dude. I'm better right now.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Eric David, yeah, better right now. Eric David says Chargers Niners, which is interesting, but he didn't say who was gonna win. That's kind of an important piece there. Adam, so who do who do you like? Who over who in the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_03 54:08

Let me let me pull up a book just so I can at least not forget something that I won't look at the exact, I'll let you keep that a secret, but I do want to look at Super Bowl odds for specific teams.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Um I feel like you guys are ruining the exercise. I feel like we should just come up with two.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

The Seahawks, by the way, at plus 950, I think is absurd. The books are stealing your money for anyone that bets that. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle doesn't even make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

But I will say I'll tell you what, I'll put the bills there.

SPEAKER_04 54:40

I'll put the bills there, and God, I I want to put the Lions there, but if the Chiefs knock the Bills out of the playoffs again, do they just hang it up?

SPEAKER_03 54:52

Yeah, like Josh Allen says, you know what? I'm just gonna quit. Fatherhood. I'm just gonna be a supportive husband. I'm gonna be an I'm gonna be a Hollywood husband.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

So Bills versus who?

SPEAKER_03 55:08

It's so freaking chalky. I guess I'll say Rams.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Who wins?

SPEAKER_03 55:18

I don't know. You guys, you guys suck at this game. It's not like more made of this.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

You can't prepare for this and would not get into this. Yeah, but think about the NFL.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

Exactly. See, I like uh uh producer Alex in the chat. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 55:36

I love the Broncos, I love the Broncos. I love Broncos are solid. You love the Broncos because of Jalen Waddell there now.

SPEAKER_04 55:43

No, I just absolutely think he's perfect for that offense, and they needed it.

SPEAKER_00 55:47

So that's 90 to 1. Broncos, Rams, but well, who wins, Alex? Who wins between those two teams?

SPEAKER_02 55:55

See, the homer pick would be to say the Broncos, because I'm a big Broncos guy, but in reality, it's probably the Rams. I think Rams beat Broncos plus 9,000.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

I like that. What's Bills?

SPEAKER_03 56:09

What's Bills over Lions?

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Ooh, that's gonna be down the board a little bit. I'm gonna have to search. You're gonna need to give me a couple minutes on that. Did you say Bills over Lions?

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Yeah, you'll get a decent one.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

It's a hundred to one.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Nine to one? Hundred one hundred to one. Oh, hundred to one. I was gonna say that makes a lot more sense. Stifler loves Alex's voice.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

The Lions, yeah. I said that he's got an amazing voice. He does.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

Thank you. Yeah, the face is a problem, but the voice is a problem.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

I mean, I didn't want to say anything, but all right, yeah. Um, he's gone. All right, the lions to win the NFC seems very far-fetched to me. I know we're only a year removed from them being like very good and then getting dismissed by Washington, but like I don't know. I feel like that Lions era, that like you know, Dan Campbell era, I feel like still there. Their defense is a problem. Their back end isn't great, the their defensive line's great, but they they do have some injury issues. I don't know. I I feel like Detroit has more holes than people think, personally.

SPEAKER_04 57:17

I did the Broncos one both sides, both sides.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

That's pretty funny. Uh, yeah, people don't know.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

My wife would never date someone with a just a mustache, it would never happen.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

It's a goatee. He has a goatee.

SPEAKER_03 57:33

It's just very kind of goatee. Yeah, we've been at it for an hour and we got another show on Thursday, so we don't need to go on and on and on. But I do feel badly, Sia, that we really didn't touch any of your topic list. So, is is there something? Do you have a favorite on the board?

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Well, so I'll offer this as like maybe a teaser for the Thursday show, which I think we're gonna do Thursday at four o'clock. Is that four?

SPEAKER_03 58:00

I believe, yeah, until it moves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:02

Um, so there's a couple topics that I think are kind of interesting that I wouldn't have otherwise thought were interesting. Diego Papia, I think, is kind of interesting, what he's doing to his career or what he's already done to his career. Uh, aliens. I was was so out on extraterrestrial life like 10, 20 years ago. And now I'm like, I it's not that I'm back, I was never there, but now I'm like, okay, like I can't be super closed-minded about this. Like, it's possible we're hearing things.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

Hail Mary and it opened your eyes.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

Wait, say it again.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

You go see Project Hail Mary and it opened your eyes.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

Oh, I don't even, I don't even know what that is. I haven't even seen the literature or the stuff that might be on like YouTube or whatever. I've just like, I've heard the rumblings, I've heard like certain people I respect talk about it that I'm like, okay, I'm I'm Joe says aliens not real. I'm still on that side, but I'm not gonna be like, aliens aren't real, dude. I'm not gonna be like condescending about it because I feel like, all right, I'm hearing some stuff. The other thing is, and this again, this can be for Thursday's four o'clock episode, dishwashers. Kind of kind of scamish. We talked about paper towels, we talked about the dry cleaners, although we didn't give that enough time because dry cleaners are a gigantic scam for the non-dry clean items. I mean, that is just starch, no starch, huge. Uh, but dishwashers. Do we really need them? Are we just running water and buying these huge appliances when they can't even clean off like the grime that's on the dishes? We have to hand wash it before we put it into the dishwasher. I do that, kind of defeating the purpose. So the only extra time is to basically dry it, which does take some time, but like I feel like dishwashers aren't like a huge need. I feel it's a little scammy.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

They're not necessary, I agree with that, but I will dismiss them being like unhelpful or whatever. Like, yeah, I I will I will clean a dish, and I will actually clean a dish pretty well. I don't like putting a grimy dish in the dishwasher, but I when I well, but when I'm climbing it uh cleaning it, I'm not like I'm not cleaning it with you know soap and everything, I'm just using a scrub brush and I'm getting the crap off it, and then I'm putting it in the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:11

Adam, guess what? Guess what? Here's the no, I haven't just here's a super neat trick, it's not the you put soap on the scrub brush and then it's clean.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

No, you don't need the because to me, to me, maybe that's the main thing. If one once you put the soap in the scrub brush and you put it all over a dirty plate, and then you move it to another dirty plate and another dirty plate, and so on and so forth, you're just using a dirty scrub brush. That's not getting the dishes clean.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

Hmm, that's an interesting take. But when I'm cleaning a dish one by one, I'm getting it soapy and clear, so that I'm not worried and then I'm running hot water over it, like a dishwasher would, by the way. And so I don't have to worry about like any sort of dirt residue because again, I'm using hot water with my soap.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:51

You guys got a good good brush recommendation because I I had when I'm cleaning dishes, I'm getting soap everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

Sponge. Not a brush, a sponge. Yeah, I don't like that though.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:02

I feel like I'm touching too much stuff, I don't like it. I'll I'll send you no, I need to hit it from rain.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

You can grab grab it on Amazon. I don't like a I don't like the sponge. The sponge gets too I don't like the sponge. The sponge personal gets messy, it does feel personal.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

A sponge on one side has to be spongy, on the other side it has to have that like that coarse material that can like get to the stuff just a regular fucking sponge, see you. No, regular sponge is is looks the same on on others on all sides.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:32

It is a regular sponge. Thank you for describing regular sponge. Yeah, thanks, dude. Does everybody know in the chat now what a sponge is?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:42

Okay, you're talking you're talking to a sponge guy. Okay. I am kind of a sponge connoisseur.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

You you fucking you gotta you gotta buy the ones that are that are different on both sides. You fucking figured it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:56

You don't want the ones that are the same on both sides. You need the coarse one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:03

I I don't I actually don't find the humor in any of this. I don't. There's all kinds of different sponges. I don't know what we're laughing at.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

I don't even know where you get the ones that don't have the coarse side on, they're everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:18

No, they're not, they're everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

Yes, oh look at sponge, although I prefer using the ones that look like that. I agree on that, yeah. Yeah, but I I I my thing, I mean, I'm not I want to go from range, I want to come in from a from a distance, you know what I mean. But then I'm just there's fucking soap just spraying everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:43

Also, there's a lot of forearm work doing that, like it's just that feels like I'll work it out.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

I'm okay with that. Yeah, I don't know. It's just uh so you got you guys can't help me out in that that fact. I just got no I can't I'll send you something place. I'll send you something, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, give me something good. Give me something good. So you guys got those cool, cool little straw, straw uh things too. That you just you know, you're getting like one of these fucking things right here, like one of these looking guys, you just you know I'm saying just like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

Yeah, I do know what you're saying. Um, I think that was it from my wish list that we can push to Thursday. Overrated condiments, catch up mustard, overrated.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:24

What did I use? The the soap it maybe, Alex. You maybe you can bring it up. It look up on Amazon or wherever the the soap dispensing palm brush. That's what I use. Dispenses, huh? Yeah, soap dispensing palm brush.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

Yeah, I'm old school, man. I don't I don't want I don't want that type of help. I don't want that type of palm olive and I need to squeeze it. I need to squeeze it out how you guys skipped those gym trips.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Yeah, well, I'm sure once you discovered the technology of a sponge, see, I'm sure I'm sure you were all hyped up about that, and you just weren't there. Yeah, I was there. It is, yeah, that's what I use. What the hell?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

We're not using that. Are we clean? Are we like polishing shoes? What is that?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:02

Well, you use that's not gonna be that might not be enough range for me. I still think feels personal. You got the range. No, you got the range.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Uh the grill. The grill feels a little personal. Yeah, you guys don't know what you're doing. Sponge is personal, the sponge is like in your hand, you're getting soap everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:18

No, that's some stuff touches the back of my animal.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:21

Gross, no, that thing that thing keeps your hand clean, unless, of course, you're a wild animal, which is possible.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

Yeah, yeah. I really get after it. That's like I said, the soap is absolutely everywhere. I have to clean the counters afterwards, the soap's everywhere. You you're like my dad, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

Does like a full counter wipe down after cleaning the dishes because he gets the water everywhere, everywhere, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

Yeah, it's fucking everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Yeah, Abe is talking about his sponge making his hand feel like a raisin. What? Like what like what are you guys are getting? No, too much work in it's a very dainty take.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:01

What are we doing? Like, we're afraid of water getting our hands like come on, what are we doing here? Yeah, I'm a woman. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:13

Say something is a dainty take in 2014. He just called you dainty, Alex. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

That's crazy. You gotta hang him up. I don't even know the definition of that word, bro. He basically called you a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

It's kind of like an old person's way of calling calling you something delicately small, pretty, or I can't pronounce it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

Oh, pretty, that's not bad. Yeah, you're like that to be in there. That's something that shouldn't be in there. I don't think that on that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

Pretty little bitch, Alex.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:47

I don't think pretty should be in that definition at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

Yeah, is okay, real quick though, because I I do want to go back to some of this. Yeah, pretty should not be in that definition. Uh catch up. Up overrated, yes or no?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

No, considering I'm basically not a condiment guy in general, yes. Okay, this you could do a whole episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

Are you waiting for more answers?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

I was waiting for Alex. I didn't hear an answer.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

He said no. I said no.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Oh, you said no. All right, how about mustard? Not not honey mustard, just straight mustard.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:19

Mustard is straight garbage.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:21

It's garbage.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:23

Like it's legitimately gross to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:25

Don't need it. Never even tried it. Don't want it. We're proud.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

I might have accidentally stumbled upon it some somehow got in there. You know, that might have been the only time I tried it. Yeah, it's gross.

unknown 1:06:38

Gross.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

But honey mustard we're in on, right? Like, honey mustard's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:42

Yes. Don't give me any mustard.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

Yellow mustard. Don't want it. Depends on what it's on. Like, if you're going on like a sloppy joe, yeah, give me all.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

No, you lost me at sloppy joe, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

I'm from Nebraska. All right. That's a staple. Uh yeah, I would say mustard on anything but that is nasty. But I don't know what it is about sloppy joe. Just makes it fucking better.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:11

It's nuts. Is Chris Farley gonna pop out here dancing around like the lunch lady?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:17

I get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

Thinking about sloppy joe's?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:20

Oh, I do. Hey, it's V.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:25

I just put hot sauce on everything personally, so I don't even like any hot sauce. Now we're talking.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:30

Yeah, I'm not a hot sauce guy either, but I don't hate hot sauce. I just don't enjoy it. Just to dance for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

Kind of kills the taste of what you're eating, doesn't it? So if you have like buffalo fingers or or wings, you don't want them hot.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:42

Not really. I want like some sauce on them, but I'm usually like a sweet, like tangy situation guy, not necessarily a hot sauce guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:49

Nah, give me the hot. That's a dainty take of yours.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

I own it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

I own it. It's kind of dainty. Personally, I look at people very differently if we order wings and you don't get hot wings. You know what I mean? I judge them. I judge them hardly.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:04

But do they taste good? Are you like, oh, this sauce? I know the chicken tastes good, but like, are you like this this hot sauce tastes good?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

Well, you don't need to get them so hot that it's like you can't breathe and you need like a glass of milk.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:16

Yeah, but there's a line, yeah. I don't I don't want to be like uh because there's a point where you don't enjoy it, but that's very rare. Yeah, like people just there. If you're a restaurant that does that, you're just trying to be cool at that point to have like the super hot wing, but the cool hot sauce is more delightful.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:33

I don't really like that. Yeah, we're not hosting an episode of Hot Ones here. Yeah, I do want to do that just to get that would be fun. Yeah, we should have a show hot ones. Well, we should make up a show. No, I'd not invent the show, the show exists. We should have like an internal, we should have an internal hot ones, that's kind of a fun idea, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:57

Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, no, I would. You're gonna ask me something, see ya? What do you got?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:05

Any update? I know we got to get out of here. We'll be back Thursday, but uh, thanks for being in everybody. Make sure you follow the podcast, Apple, Spotify, all of those things. Okay, Eric David, sweet chili or Korean barbecue wings.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

Yes, throw them both in the garbage.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:16

That's where I want to be sweet chili or Korean barbecue.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:19

Yeah, throw them both in the trash.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:21

Delicious. Um, any updates on Miami move? Do you really think so?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:28

Yes, yes. Oh, you do? Oh, no, then absolutely not. No, yeah. I don't have I don't get updates. I don't even know what the place looks like that I'm going to, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

I'm not asking you like what the furniture is in your yeah, he didn't ask for output. Like, do we have a would do we have like a hard and fast date where like hey, I'm moving on this date or we're not there yet?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:46

Hell no, hell no. I have a I have about a two-week stretch that I'm looking at that looks tasty, you know, and end end of May, early June type shit. You know what I mean? That seems good.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:58

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:58

That seems good. You like that shit?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:59

Hell yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:01

Hell yeah. Hey, if you're curious for your uh first five bet, scoreless bottom three.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:05

I was literally just about to check.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

Okay, I did I did put uh I put 50, I I'd bet it fully and then put 50 on uh it with Scotty as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

I love that. Okay, so they got a man on first with one out in the bottom of the third. Just a free run. That's a free run. Okay. Blue Jays have some injury issues. That that's kind of the main issue here, but anyway.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:31

Anyway, all right, out of the way. Well, yeah, let's do it again on Thursday, roughly four o'clock. Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:38

Maybe, maybe not even Thursday. We'll let you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

Yeah, it could be another day entirely, it'll be a different week.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:47

No, it'll be Thursday at four.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That seems good. Hell yeah. Let's go with it. Hell yeah. All right, thanks to uh Biz behind the scenes. Yeah, bring a real shirt on Thursday. Wait, you don't like you don't like this one, stifler? This is for Thorb.

unknown 1:11:02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:03

Thorb, yeah. What a garbage shirt. On on the canton.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:07

Yeah, I can go with the fucking sweet chili wing wings right in the garbage. Nobody needs to see that.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:12

You guys don't need to live that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:14

Oh, we should do a shirt off show.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:17

Oh, we we have to do the bicep. We have to do the bicep.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:20

Hey, look what he brought. I got sun sleeves on. See, that ain't cutting it, see you. You know what I mean? That ain't cutting it. This ain't cutting it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:27

That's pretty comparable to the the thing I just saw.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:30

I need to do a pump before the next show. Pump a quick pump before the show. Let me take this sun sleeve off real quick.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:38

That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:39

Yeah, it's not bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:40

I feel like mine might might be better.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

Nah, what's that? Uh what's that Stallone arm wrestling movie?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

Uh over the top.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Over the top, yeah. We're gonna get a show over the top between the two of you. Let's just gotta get you in the same room first, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:56

Let's do the slap fight thing where we just laugh the shit out of each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:00

Is that okay? Real quick though. That's gotta be the dumbest. Like, there's some dumb sports. That's gotta be the dumbest. In every in every form of that word, that's gotta be the dumbest. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:13

Okay, highly unsafe and stupid. Yeah, you're begging for concussions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

And there's like no power slap, that's what it's called.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:21

Yeah, power slap.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:23

There's no like there's just what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:27

I wonder how big that is and like how much like money it actually generates.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:31

Uh I it's big enough to like get uh I know some people that are like hosts of those that are like you know, well paid, not necessarily in that, but like they wouldn't be doing it if they weren't well paid for. You know, people that are hosts of those. I'm familiar with somebody in particular that that does hosting of that. I haven't talked to her in a very long time, but wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:51

Well, if you reconnect, let's have her on the show because I would love to dive deep into that sport.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:56

Yeah, and then we just slap the shit out of her.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

I don't think you could do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

Oh, all right, that's we're not on the same page. Okay, I don't think she'd like to do it. And on that note, we're out of here, folks. And then next up, see you Thursday.