No Plays Off Episode 21

Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off," chat about X (formerly Twitter), changing in the Elon Musk ownership era, get an update on Thorb's moving situation, star signs, FaceTime vs phone calls, future bets & so much more!

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:26

No plays off BNN Betting News Network. See ya Thorb. I'm Adam. Guys, I just pulled up Twitter during Thorb's wonderful intro there. By the way, Thorb, good to have you back, buddy. We missed you last week. Hey man, happy to be back. First tweet that I see, and I don't follow this account, but I live in the you know for you page or whatever, so I just I just see shit. It's from KFC, of course, Kentucky Fried Chicken, the official KFC account. I had to look to make sure. One and a half million followers. And the intern tweeted, still raw dogging your tenders? Whoa. And that guys is what we call a callback. It's a raw dogging conversation on the show. You seem prepared.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Oh, was that no socks? What was the ordeal with that?

SPEAKER_04 1:15

It was no media.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Yeah. Oh. Okay.

unknown 1:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

Like raw dogging fights. Why are we raw? So just but I don't really understand the content. Like, what's raw dogging a tender?

SPEAKER_04 1:28

No sauce.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

No sauce.

SPEAKER_04 1:30

Yeah. Alright. Okay. Which which I don't hate, but I mean, I'm also not going to criticize people who I mean you guys you guys sauce it up, I assume, with your tenders, but a lot of people are like on the go, so they can't, so they just have the tenders.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

I'm uh I'm I'm a buffalo sauce guy, but otherwise I I would raw dog the tender.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Thorpe. There's no way I would ever raw dog a tender. No. Never knife. No, never. You just wouldn't eat it? No. Leave it there? That's just wasteful. Well, I would just wouldn't do it. I would have sauce. You know what I mean? But if you don't have sauce, I would.

SPEAKER_03 2:10

But what if you don't? I would though.

unknown 2:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

Well, I mean, okay. This is the perspective of somebody who's single, right? Like, he has the time to make sure he secured sauce. But if you have to like heat something up real quick and go in the car, like again, single without kids, I'm saying, like, there are going to be instances later in life, Thorb, where you're just not going to have the luxury of sauce. So, what do you do in that moment if you're hungry?

SPEAKER_02 2:34

I don't see the an instance where this is the moment.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

This weird scenario that you're painting a picture of doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yeah, I can't see it. Uh I don't know. I don't I don't know when I wouldn't have sauce. What's up? Damn, it's Austin in the chat.

SPEAKER_04 2:50

By the way, I'm looking down because I'm I'm trying to instead of just retweeting, I'm I'm I'm making sure the YouTube link is there for everybody in case people are forgetting that we're back on YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

We're so back.

SPEAKER_04 3:01

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

So were we back last week as well when I was not? We were. Holy shit, that's two weeks in a row.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

I think it's three weeks in a row. I think we had it the week before that, too.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Oh, there's your tweet. I'm gonna retweet your tweet. So I'm not gonna send an organic tweet of your tweet, I'm gonna retweet the tweet.

SPEAKER_04 3:17

How many active followers? So, so Adam, you have like percentage-wise, huh? You have like 40,000 followers. I have half of that, actually, less than half of that. Sure. And you know, I I think when people look at my Twitter account, I think they think it's it's pretty active because I get a lot of comments and stuff, yeah, and likes and some retweets here and there. But I mean, obviously, I'm not getting 18,000 people that are that are follow-quote following me that are looking at my profile at all anymore. And I understand there's some small percentage that might be bots or whatever, but I think most of them, a majority, are like active Twitter users to some degree. Yeah, and I just wonder what percentage are like actually active in like the the sense that we would say like active is like they're on Twitter, they're looking at our stuff. Like, that's gotta be a small percentage, right?

SPEAKER_03 4:02

I just don't understand Elon's Twitter at this point in time, or X as people want it to be called. And uh, this is how I can, I'm not exactly answering your question, but I kind of am. This is how I can best paint that picture. I feel like throughout I don't know how long I've been on Twitter, but I wasn't really I don't know, pretty like I created a Twitter account, but then I wasn't really active on it for several years, and then I was and have been since. But since I started, you know, getting active on Twitter, I've had like this steady growth, right? Like, you know, obviously it could come in waves, maybe there's uh the occasional tweet that generates uh a whole bunch of followers, but generally speaking, month to month, there'd be this steady growth that was the case for years, yeah. And then COVID hit, or maybe it was Elon taking over. I don't remember exactly what the timeline was.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

It was Elon taking over because COVID is when I started using Twitter, and I was able to to incrementally gain all right.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

So then it was Elon. So when Elon took over, like I I mean, I've I have probably net gain because obviously, like I've gained hundreds of followers, but I've probably lost hundreds of followers. Net gain since Elon took over. I think I'm probably only up like a hundred or two followers in, and that's that's years, like that's in the last few years. Like, people have just stopped coming, and I don't know if that's you know, you brought up active followers. I don't know if people with the algorithm and the four you feeds and not having tweet deck or whatever, like people just aren't finding me anymore in the way that they once did, or I just suck and they're leaving. I have no idea what it is, but it's it's weird that the I I I miss I miss old Twitter, I miss what it was. It was more fun back then.

SPEAKER_04 5:51

Now, Thorb, you've shared some social media frustration recently, but it wasn't Twitter, right? It was more like TikTok, Instagram where you were it's kind of everything right now.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

I don't think I've gained a single follower on Instagram in like four months. Um, which is weird. I've I've had videos get like 500,000 views and nothing. Um, I don't know, it's it's all weird now. I think if we're talking like active viewers, kind of like C was talking about, or active like just followers in general. I probably have half a million across everything. I'd say five thousand of them even give a shit. Or yeah, followers are the most meaningless like number in in history. Uh even Twitter, uh, when I when I first topped on Twitter just to share like my recaps, they would even do really well when I like first got on there. I feel like now they don't do shit either. Uh so I don't it but my Twitter's like nothing, especially even even compared to you guys. And then uh yeah, now I could post a recap. It's it I used to gain like a good amount of followers each recap I posted, and now it's yeah sweep, sweet so you are entire recap, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

Welcome welcome to the basketball streets.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Yeah, people are getting me. Uh everyone, everyone's DMing me trying to get me to do some basketball. And like I I really get into the playoff basketball, so I I was open to that, especially when the Knicks are in it. If the Knicks weren't in it, I probably wouldn't do it, but uh they are, and now all I can think about is OGM and an Obi's hamstring.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

I have a lot of Nick Sixers talk that I want to talk about like inside the arena and outside the arena because I want to I want to mention and maybe have a conversation about which fan base is worse. Uh, with that said, there's a lot of people in the chat, like Jason Herod, Japan is in here, take over Embiid, Joe Newenfeld. They're all uh uh Jeff Stenberg under the name Stifler's in here. I was gonna say Stifler's not here yet. No, he's here. Oh good. Thanks for being in here, everybody. Uh, but most importantly, they're they're talking golf. I've got two matchups out there right now, and and one of them's one back, one of them's two up. So people are monitoring that. But somebody said, Thorb, somehow Thorb had Martin Laird as first round leader over at the alt event Myrtle Beach.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

I did not, I did not. Uh you would think so, but I I did not. It's a funny comment. Yeah, I did not have I wish that'd be cool. So, what are you chasing? I'm not really chasing anything. I I think I have like 45 Sung Jim in DFS this week, which is pretty tight because he's he's he's five under through six. Yeah, yeah. I don't see I'm shocked I don't have his first round leader because I'm all over him everywhere else. Um, but I saw something in the chat as well. See, are you going to Chicago soon?

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Yeah, I'm going to uh so the Early Edge Sports Line is doing a meetup. We did it in New York last year, but we didn't really give it a lot of notice. It was like probably three to four weeks' notice. Now we're giving two months notice, and we're gonna be in Wrigley July 1st for a Cubs Padres game. And Joe, who lives in Vegas, by the way, I think it's him and his girlfriend, and maybe maybe a couple of kids. I'm not 100% sure. I think it was four people. They're coming over to uh I didn't hear you, but they're coming over to the game, they're flying over, they've already booked their tickets in their uh hotel.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

He said, Congrats on the sex.

SPEAKER_04 9:06

Oh, I I yeah, I'm not even sure they're his kids, to be honest with you. Well, some somebody some somebody has into kids.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Um, Jason's asking if the two of us are going. No, we we're not employed by CBS.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

I could be, I could be, and I will be. I'll force my way in there. Uh well, me too, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get into some golf season.

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Well, first of all, you guys could come. I mean, it's not like I mean the Joe's not employed by CBS either. You guys could say that's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

I'm the week prior to that, so um, probably not the best timing, or else I probably would go.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

I'm gonna be in Maine, otherwise, I'd be interested.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

You're gonna be you're gonna be huddled up right next to CBS headquarters, the dot com headquarters, when you move down to uh South Florida. What's the update, Thorb?

SPEAKER_02 9:53

See, if you don't get me a goddamn gig at CBS, we're not friends anymore.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

I I think I can.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Yeah, and you will, and it's gonna be sick.

SPEAKER_04 10:01

I don't even have that much pull.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

I still think I doesn't matter because you're talking about I I bet you can get Thorb in the door there.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

Yeah, yeah, I already know Mike. Mike's a good boy. Yeah, he got me my first interview on CBS. Um what were we saying? Well, first of all, we're talking about social media, but uh oh yeah, moving. Uh oh yeah, moving. Uh, I believe I have an actual date now, it's like the 26th or something. I should be heading down there. Of May.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Of May? Yes. Soon you're gonna start packing.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah, I haven't even looked into anything. Or uh I have to furnish the place as well, apparently. I gotta look into that.

SPEAKER_04 10:39

Um, that's okay, like because that means you don't have a ton of stuff to move. Like, that's kind of liberating, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Uh theoretically, I uh I have a lot of equipment. Uh, I'm gonna bring my big ass TV, I'm gonna bring a couch that I have here. Um, so it's gonna be a decent amount of stuff, but who cares?

SPEAKER_03 10:58

How big ass is the big ass TV? 82. That's big ass.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

Yeah, apparently they already have an 80 there that they don't they don't need, so I'm gonna have two 80-inch TVs, might buy a third just to fuck around and get weird. Football Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Imagine that, dude. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:16

When I moved down to Fort Lauderdale, I didn't have any furniture and I was crashing for a few months. I knew I was just gonna crash at a friend's townhouse, so I didn't have like a lease situation. I just I had an Infinity G35, I packed it up on December 30th, 2006, and I tried to make it straight in time to catch the Giants at the time Redskins game on Sunday night football at 8:30. I got there just before halftime, so it was like 15, 16 hours, just in time for a close game to be not a close game. Tiki Barber had like over 200 yards rushing, it was embarrassing. Uh, with that said, I had no furniture when I finally moved into an apartment. And I I loved it because I just went to like a rooms to go. By the way, I was in debt at the time, so it's not like I was flush with money, but I had credit. I went to a rooms to go, they were closing in like five minutes, and I just walked around and I was like, I need a bed and I need a couple of other couches and whatever. And in five minutes, I chose everything. And the guy was so happy because he thought his shift was over and he made this huge commission off me. Anyway, it was one of my one of my memories of moving without how old were you? Um is this a trick question? No, it's my age. It was I was in my late 20s, so this is that's that's 40 years ago, mid-20s.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

No, it's it's yeah, I was just thinking like that's fairly mature adult of you. Like, when I've I've moved around a bunch for jobs and I've gone around the country and that kind of thing. And one of the so the first few jobs I had, the salaries were so poor that it was offset by the I was I was in broadcasting play by play, and the teams that I worked for provided housing, like in the same way they provided players with housing on the team, they provided me with housing, and so it was all furnished, so I didn't have to go out and get my own stuff for the most part, other than like you know, maybe a TV or something like that, computer desk, whatever. But what I was thinking about was you know, and I'm probably what 24 at the time. It's like, well, I I feel like I need some shit on the walls, even though I don't own the place, I'm not even really renting the place, but I gotta have something on the walls, not just these bland gray or tan or white or whatever walls. And so I went out, or maybe I even might have even been eBay or something like that, and I got just a bunch of like sports banners, you know, like like flags or championship banners or pennants, things things that would just like not be in an adult's house. Like it was like I was decorating a fraternity house, and it was I just like littered all of the wall. Like, I had like I put like a Massachusetts state flag in the bedroom. It was like I just need something on the wall. It was terrible, it was pretty awful, but I might have old photos.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

I want to make like a nice when I finally get situated, because uh, like even uh, see, I mean you're green screening, Adam, but like I want to do sort of like see has got a you know a bunch of sports stuff behind him, some cool stuff. I want to do some shit like that. Uh because I just got a bunch of random shit behind me that I don't know what to do with. So uh I want to I want to make a nice little separate repeat there, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I don't even know if I'm gonna you but I guess people are kind of used to that.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

You gotta bring it at the very least.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Maybe yeah, I'll bring it. I want to get um uh not not this isn't like a flex by any means, but I want to like uh I have like a bunch of songs that are about to hit like a million streams. I want to get like a bunch of the plaques and then just like and just have them lined up, you know what I mean? I mean that'd be cool because it'll have all the cover arts on them. Um, so here's a disclaimer about all the plaques that because I always like when um like any sort of influencers, whether it's YouTube, Spotify, or anything, they're like, Oh, I just got a package in the mail, let me open it up, and it's like their plaque of like a million subscribers, million uh like plays on Spotify or whatever. They don't send you those, you have to buy them. So, like it's that so like I I I I'm gonna buy them. Like, I think it's a cool thing to just have but yeah, people people act like they're getting sentes, and uh I think you only get something if like your record goes like platinum or diamond or something like that. Um, which I don't even know how many streams that is nowadays, probably like fucking 200 million or some shit, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

That kind of reminds me of see you. You would know about this, I assume, anyway. And I won't I won't name drop here at all because it's really not name dropping, it'd be more of like calling people out, and it has the adverse effect. So I won't do that. But in the a lot of the time in the fantasy space, when you win awards, you know, they'll have these annual like fantasy sports, whatever of the year, you know. Well, who is it? The fantasy sports and gaming, what I don't remember exactly what the acronym is, but most people think like, wow, like they recognized us, and this is so great, and we're being honored, and our community loves us, and like there's an element of that, but a lot of these competitions, if you will, you're actually paying your way to be a finalist, you're submitting, like, here's my show, and here's the money, and could you please recognize me as being one of your finalists? And then you know, I don't think you buy your way to a win, you're chosen at that point, but you are putting yourself on their radar, kind of the same thing as like going out and buying these plaques.

SPEAKER_04 16:37

Yeah, you're you're applying to be a nominee, uh, essentially, for some reason, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Yeah, which is how a lot of things work. Like, even if you like go in a hip-hop or a rap competition, you're usually paying to get involved in it in general, and then just hoping you win. But yeah, I don't know. It's the it's the well, no, because you probably don't win anything any money. I was gonna say it takes money to make money, but it it really just takes money at that point to do anything, I guess. But yeah, I don't know. I think the I think the plaques because I don't know what to because I'm not I don't want a bunch of dolphin shit behind me because like I fucking hate them. So um I figure it'd just be my own shit, you know what I mean? Maybe like one I've like one dolphin's like flag, Super Bowl flag from like 1941 or whatever the fuck they won. And uh, and other than that, that's really all I got from that. I got signed Ricky Williams jersey. It does say smoke weed every day on it. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's framed, it's not even up anywhere here.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Yeah, I mean that's the kind of thing. Oh, look, we're following them.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

No, we can't see it. Full screen them full screen them, Alex. Oh, that's cool. That is nice. Yeah, put that on the wall behind you.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

They smoke weed every day. So that would look good. Yeah, yeah. I don't I don't even have it up right now, it's just kind of sitting here. Well, don't hang it now. You're lazy to you're leaving.

SPEAKER_04 17:55

Ricky Williams is a pretty insightful guy, as I think everybody kind of knows. But uh Joe Newenfeld, I know at least was probably still is a big fan of the the Dan Levitard show. He would have a spot on that show like once a week where he'd be on for like 30 or 30 or 60 minutes, and the guy is just so incredibly insightful. The the tricky part was sweet, he talked about astrology and horoscopes all the time, which I'm like completely out on, but he's such a good speaker that when he was talking about it, I was like, Okay, yeah, I kind of see it. Like, that's impressive.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

Do you have a feeling about people who feel really strongly about their sign and astrology? And you know, I'm uh I'm I'm losers, I'm a Capricorn, and that's how we are, you know.

SPEAKER_04 18:40

So that uh that was one of my dating rules. Like, if you start bringing that stuff up, I'm out. Sorry, Thorpe. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

What's your sign? See you. Let's uh let's shit on Pam a little more because I saw her uh say something to see you, be like, I know why we get along, you're a fucking whatever. And I was like, Pam would be that fucking type of person.

SPEAKER_04 18:59

Well, here's the thing in her defense, we know her. It's funny.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

We know her well they're new to the show and just learning about this this feud between Thorb and Pam Maldonado.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

So good. The the thing about Pam is yeah, that's that's definitely a downgrade, but she does like clearly that's not something she wears on her sleeve. Like, she responded to something about my birthday, but like I've never heard her heard her bring up horoscopes or signs ever, and I've talked to her a bunch, so have you, so is Adam. So, like, I can accept that if it's just kind of like an ancillary thing that you're like, you know, kind of throwing out there because it's fun. But if you're like, Oh, you're a Tara, so that definitely means you're you're like this type of person.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

I'm like, whoa, there's people there's people that swear by it, and it you're just a lunatic at that point. Absolute lunatic.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Joe Newfeld, uh, L O L C I believe in never being in a relationship with a cancer or Gemini ever again.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Did you ever stop? Did you ever think that the cancer Gemini that you happen to date sucked? Yeah, maybe it was just that person. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:04

Maybe you're terrible at picking uh significant others.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Maybe I should figure out what the people that I've talked to that sucked, what they were, and then then maybe I can start going by that. Maybe it's maybe there's something to it. You consider that.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

You think I could ask them still? Yeah, I mean you could reach out. Are you friends with your exes? No, none of them? No. They all end badly. No.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Uh wait, I should probably know their birthday, right? I mean, at one point, probably.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

I don't know about now. Yeah, no, I don't remember. I I'll look into this. I probably I I I probably remember X's birthdays. Not that I like reach out to Wishman. It doesn't occur to me on that day, but if I sat here and I thought about it right now, oh when's their birthday? I bet I could come up with it. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Well, I also date like once every seven years, so I guess that's memory not too good that far. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 21:03

You must be a Gemini or Sagittarius.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

No, dude, I'm a Virgo, I think.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

Do you do any of you know? Like, so I know I'm a Taurus because I'm you know, May 11th. People have told me, and I I understand to be like, whatever. I don't know. I don't know anybody else's, like, I don't know any other dates for signs. Do you guys?

SPEAKER_03 21:26

I don't know my sign, so no, I don't know other people's.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

I only know mine because somebody's told me as well. Um, I just like the it's just whatever sign it is. Like you can just find a way to make whatever the sign says about you. It's it's like, oh, uh a tourist hate a tourist doesn't, they they don't like fake people. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, they don't, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Very, very thoughtful and sometimes considerate and love the outside. Also Inside, sometimes, yeah, sometimes we just got everybody.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

I think I'm the year of the dog in the Chinese new year. I think I think that's right. 82. I think that's the year of the dog, maybe. Who knows? I don't know. The Thor was born like a decade and a half after that. Alex was born yesterday, intern Alex behind the scenes. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Hey Adam, did you get a new camera? It doesn't look like it.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

No, not yet. So here's what it was. You and I were talking about the camera after I looked better on my cell phone than my computer camera. And so you told me what you got, and I went to Amazon. I was about to get it. I was like, I had it in the cart, I was about to get it, and then I remembered that my lazy ass I'm I'm sitting here on my old computer, which still runs well. Obviously, the camera's not great, even though this is an external camera, but also sucks because it's like 720, whatever. But I've got a new computer, like three feet from me, that I was like, I wonder how that camera was. And I opened it up, and that camera's fucking amazing. It's immaculate. I don't need to go out and buy a new camera. I've got the camera. I just need to start using the new computer when I do these shows. That's what it comes down to. What kind of computer is it? Like a new Mac or something? Yeah, it's a MacBook Pro. Uh yeah, I don't know how their webcams are. Um it's strong, great webcam.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

B dot says 720. Buddy, that's running on two pixels.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

You, you, you, you doing what you do for a living and having a 720p camera is nuts, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 23:36

I actually have no idea what I'm running my Logitech on. I don't know like what if it's 720, 1080. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

It looks like I just tell it, but I mean, does he out like I can't tell Thorb? Does he look more drastically like much better than I do? Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Well, he just means handsome.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

That right I meant both ways, but I was also talking about the camera. Yeah, yeah. I I thought the handsome part was just assumed. I was moving into the tech.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Yeah, yeah. Tech wise, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you you're like a you get a little choppy too. It's like uh do I, you know, yeah, a little choppy.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

You probably I think he's overstating it. He's just trying to make you feel self-conscious.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

It's working, yeah. Yeah, I can barely even see you.

SPEAKER_04 24:19

Are you there, Adam? Are you there, buddy? Huh? Uh-oh. Connor's dropped a shot, so I'm up one and down one with a handful of holes to play on my two matchups.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Um, MLB uh system plays, by the way, are are sitting. Uh we got we got two that are going on right now that are in front. So hopefully that continues.

SPEAKER_04 24:40

Those have those have been doing pretty well, right? Over the last week.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

So I like I do I'll I'll do a longer explanation later. You already did that last uh last time I was here.

SPEAKER_04 24:50

Yeah, we don't need the long one good later either.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Uh we started out of the gate down 20 units, and I was like, Oh, this is not gonna be fun, but didn't skip a day, didn't change the plan, stayed with it, and we are present day up eight and a half units. Yeah, it's all about commitment, you know. All about commitment. We've we've ridden the roller coaster.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

The last Knicks series, I was laddering mikel bridges for three straight games, and then it finally hit, and it hit for like three grand. So you gotta commit, you gotta stay committed.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

You gotta stay committed. My camera adds 10 years, Thorb.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Is it fair to say that the Knicks fans are catching up to the Philly fans with respect to obnoxiousness? It's just the city, man.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Those kids are nuts, they're nuts. You're not one of them.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

No, well, you wouldn't be out there bing bonging in the streets.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

God, no, man. Those those those people are crazy. They're gonna, if the Knicks win the finals, they're gonna burn the city to the ground.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Buddy, if they win the Eastern Conference Finals, remember when they beat the Celtics last year, which only achieved half the goal. You were eight wins out of 16, you were halfway there.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

They were literally renaming fucking streets in New York City. It's not good, man. It's not good. Act like you've been there before. Well, they haven't, dude. So apparently, yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

Are you worried about the the Knicks? They're up to uh going back to Philly. Philly looks good with or without embiid. OG and an object. What's the update on OG?

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Um, I I the only thing I've saw was like a day-to-day hamstring injury, but like if it's a hamstring, I don't want to play him until he's like damn near 100%. I'd rather try to win the series without him, to be honest. That's what I would I mean. You're up 2-0. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd I'd rather I I think we I think they could beat the Sixers without him. So um I because dude, it's a hamstring, bro. Like hamstrings terrify me. I don't want to mess with it. They linger. I don't know how bad it is, but like the re-injury on those things is fucking huge.

SPEAKER_04 26:50

So I've already bet the Sixers money line for game three.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Yeah, terrible bad. Yeah, what are the odds?

SPEAKER_04 26:56

It's it's oh, it's just minus 110 each way, minus 115.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Oh, I'd be on New York.

SPEAKER_04 27:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

See, you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

I think they win. Like, I think it's I I think it's gonna be two to two going back to New York.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Wow, is Embiid is Embiid playing? Because then Brunson will score like 48 points. His props are up. I hope he does. Yeah, that's what's up. They have they have nothing to stop Brunson when Embiid's in. He's too fucking slow and big and doofy.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

Thorb, we're talking all sports here, but it is Philly's the worst fan base. I feel like we can all agree there in terms of obnoxiousness. I'm good. Thorb, in your eyes, in your objective eyes, is it Boston or New York for second place?

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Boston. I hate them so much. I feel like it's Boston's my one, but that's bias a little bit. Yeah, yeah, very biased. Don't get me wrong, Boston would be in the top five, but one top three, no, top three, but but third. I don't know if they'd be that bad if they weren't so spoiled, but like that's what makes them the worst.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Well, that's what created the arrogance.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Yes, yes. Um, yeah, Boston was just being like pieces of shit. Yeah, like Philly is just being like pieces of shit. Yeah, you know, they're they're up there, they're up there at the top of the ranks. But I mean, yeah, Knicks fans aren't uh I also hate the Yankees, so I can't side with them. Um so I'm not I'm not with whatever they do over there, but yeah, the Knicks fans are out of their goddamn minds.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

Joe Newenfeld, have you ever met Cowboys fans? But they're not obnoxious, they're just like hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Like it's not like you're just kind of depressed at this point, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

It's just kind of whatever.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

Yeah, I it always it always comes back to Philly for me. I I'd put Philly at the top of the chart. New York's there, Boston's there, I get it. Like it's kind of funny that Chicago doesn't get any rap at all. It just thinking about other major cities, like people don't complain about Chicago fans. LA fans are kind of fake fans anyway, so nobody bothers talking about them. So it's really the major eastern and really northeastern markets.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

I think when you get towards the Midwest, you get a slightly different vibe. You'll always have the outliers, but I think Chicago comfortably fits into that. Like, we're we're not gonna we're not gonna stand for that nonsense for the most part. That's why Chicago's insulated a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

I think there's a way to be like a lunatic, but in a in a nice way, like Buffalo does that very well. Like they're out of their minds, but they're not like dickheads.

SPEAKER_04 29:28

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Yeah, I really hope the Sabres win the cup. Well, I also have a lot of, but um well, that's different, yeah. Well, also, it'd just be like uh I don't know, I feel like Buffalo deserves something.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

I have you'll like this, Adam. I have a future on the Canadians to win the Eastern Conference at 14 to 1. It's the only future I bet. I don't really bet NHL, obviously. But I was hosting uh primetime pregame on CBS Sports HQ like three weeks ago, and Casey Hudson, your friend, you do TV with her as well. She came on for a quick hockey segment, and again, I don't really take other people's bets, but it was just a random future, and she convinced me that Montreal had a chance, so I'm like, all right, I'm gonna put 50 bucks on. So that's like the only thing I'm rooting for, and of course, they lost to Buffalo yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Yeah, I think I think I got Buffalo to win it all at like 22 to one or something, uh, which is pretty nice.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

What time of year did you get that ticket?

SPEAKER_02 30:20

My buddy's a big Buffalo fan, and he just told me the Sabres were cooking. I said that's enough for me. Um, and then so that was probably on it. That was probably three months ago or something. Yeah. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

But um, yeah, I mean they look good. They look good. Yeah, the playoffs have been good, getting some good close games, not like all the the mess of blowouts we're getting in the NBA. What a freaking disaster that's been.

SPEAKER_04 30:47

It really has been. I mean, we're we're on my my early edge show, we're missing a bunch of props because guys are like the fourth quarter, not even the third, like the back end of the third. These guys are like not really not really playing. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

Yeah, I could have been rich the other day if the Knicks played the entire just any of the fourth quarter. It was bad. It was bad. I think I want I I need OKC to die. Just I hate them so see. I'm with you now. I'm I'm just fully on board. I hate so much, but why SBJ?

SPEAKER_03 31:19

You guys would be happy to know is right there. The three of you could be sitting here doing an anti-OKC show. What's what's the argument for the hatred?

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Well, one, they're just they're simply too fucking good, and then two, there it's so you can't like uh compare it to like when the Warriors were the Warriors, right? They were fun to watch at least. This team is so good, and they are miserable to watch, absolutely miserable. They're not that they're they're pretty fucking good, dude. They're that they're going, they're going to win the finals.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

They're not, but they're not Warriors good. They are manufacturing a style of play that is so like perfectly taking advantage of the officiating that it makes them look a little bit better than they are. Of course, they're the best team in the league, but they're not on to me, they're not on a playing field talent-wise, or like even coaching-wise, of what we saw with Golden State, even before Kevin Durant, especially that that's it's fair in that.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

I mean, they were one of the best teams ever in literal dynasty. Oklahoma City's in year two, like you know, with like let's have the conversation again in in a few years when it comes to that kind of thing. I don't think people are out there considering comparing them to Golden State, other than maybe very early in the year when they just weren't losing, and it was like, Holy crap, they might challenge the wins record. But obviously, things fell off, they dealt with a lot of injuries. They're still an effing wagon. I I don't know who other than San Antonio is gonna even put up a fight against this team.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Yeah, I need San Antonio to just somehow somehow do that. But Spurs are a lot of fun to watch, yeah. They're they are they are every other team in the league is more fun to watch than OKC, and OKC is the best team, which is I don't I took some heat on this on a show the other day.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Like, I'm not Minnesota doesn't entertain me, and I know the Timberwolves have been in back-to-back West finals, and they've there's a pedigree there, and obviously Ant when he's right, crazy athlete, and all that stuff, but like I just they for like there were a couple people I maybe Danny Burke was one of the people that was rooting on Minnesota over uh over San Antonio. I just the Spurs to me are infinitely more entertaining to watch than the Timberwolves. It's not even close. I want Minnesota fired off into the sun. I want that team done and gone. Well, they probably will be.

SPEAKER_04 33:38

Spurs' second team is as good as some of the play-in teams. Maybe not their comp, not maybe not the complete like next five, but they're all so good. That play that Vassal uh Vassell did, like jumping in the air because he knew the shot, like just have the awareness to do it, and then to actually complete it, like execute it perfectly. That I mean, I don't think anybody's ever seen anything like that before.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

I don't even I don't even know how you think to do that, right? That's that's insane. That was cool.

unknown 34:11

That was cool.

SPEAKER_04 34:12

SGA's flopping is I know other people flop too.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

It's everybody now, man. It's so i fouls are ruining so many sports.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

Haven't heard Joel and B or uh J Jalen Brown talk about Joel Embiid lately.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Bro, first of all, and Joel Embiid to take a question about his his own about how how good he did getting to the line and just and just turn it into Jalen Brunson, like getting fouls, which he had eight, eight, he went to the line eight times and had 35 points. Joe Joel went to it like fucking 13 and had like 17 points. For him to just take a question that wasn't about Jalen Brunson and he's such a loser. I hate Joel MP, dude. He's such a loser.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

The thing about SGA, yeah, there's a lot of flopping. You know how back in the day people did like parody videos about LeBron, and they would just like you know, act, you know, because LeBron does this does that stuff too. And they would there would be a parody video, and it would be like even like being more exaggerated, obviously, than the already exaggerated thing. That's what I see from SGA. Like, he's doing the parodied version of the flop in an actual game and largely getting rewarded for it. It's just such a bad brand of basketball. Nobody should like this team unless you are specifically an OKC fan. And Joe's bringing up Lou Dort. I've I've said this on this show, like probably two months ago. Like, this is a miserable team to root for. It's I'm so out, I want the Spurs to win very badly.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

I've got a championship ticket on the Spurs, so that'd be fine with me. Nice. We know Adam Silver loves parody. Haven't seen a repeat winner as of yet during his tenure.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Nobody wants OKC back. Maybe they can rig that up.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Got people in the chat, stifler's bingbogging Luke Litler out there. Uh Spurs best to watch, says Jason. My wolves aren't done yet, says Joe. On and on and on. Let me ask you guys about I I what what are when did I talk about this with Sia? Uh oh, it came up when he hopped in the chat during our any given wager the other day. FaceTimes or calls, fellas. Oh yeah. I I I I am curious, I feel like this is a uh you so most people are gonna say, like, well, neither text, and I get it. That's where we are, like as a generation. You're not allowed to answer that way, though. Face time or call.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

That's very situation-based for me. I also and if you want me to answer, call me. Because like I'll I could I either answer a text instantaneously or I'll answer like seven days later. Um, or not at all. I don't know. I love, I love, I like a good nah, nah. Actually, I don't I don't I don't like a good FaceTime, really. I don't like a good FaceTime. Yeah, give me a call. Yeah, well, it depends, you know. Like, um, you know, you got you got maybe you people out there have girlfriends or something. I think I feel like that might be cool. I don't know. Um wouldn't it wouldn't know? Not you're not you, see, you're too old, all right.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Uh I don't think my wife and I have ever FaceTimed unless there was a kid involved.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

It was like oh reference what I just told Cia. Yeah, I know you're not FaceTiming your wife, okay? I know that.

SPEAKER_04 37:28

The only reason to FaceTime would be to show the other person something, like you you are somewhere that is interesting, or you have something that is interesting that it would justify the FaceTime call. Outside of that, unless it's like a family member that you really feel the need to FaceTime with, uh, like I don't understand why you do it, but the telephone call. See, the thing about the telephone call is it's perfectly useless because now we have like audio text that we can send. Yeah, so unless you you have some urgency to the phone call, which is a completely different situation, then you can you don't have to text, you don't have to sit there and text this long thing, you can just do an audio text, which most people appreciate it because they can listen to it in a you know a place where it's not noisy or whatever, and they can audio text you back.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

But you gotta that is then you're assuming someone is in position, they can listen to your like a lot of the time people want to text because they can't listen to something, they can't hop on the phone, which an audio call is to a degree the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah, but I got a lot to say, you know what I mean? Sometimes so I I I love an audio message that's my go-to. I'll send audio messages on even on Instagram to people I've never even met before. I just got a lot to say, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just uh yeah, that's that's the way over over calls or everything. But so I'll I'll say this though. When I every Wednesday, me and my buddies are in the one and done stuff, you know. Sometimes we do a three, three, uh, three-way FaceTime, you know, because it feels real. We know we're getting after it. We're that we're digging into some data, you know, and it feels like we're kind of doing this, what we're doing right now. That makes sense. That's cool, that's cool, and that's easier. Like if we if we were doing it on a call, you know, it doesn't feel it doesn't feel the same.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

See, I think I think doing what we do here, not specifically here, BNN, this show, but in this industry has kind of wrecked FaceTiming for me. And maybe the whole Zoom Google Meet thing has wrecked FaceTiming for me. Because generally speaking, like I don't know about you guys, like if I'm catching up with a buddy, it might be over the phone because again, I'm an old, but it's not, it's it's it's not gonna be like let's hop in a Google meet and just sit here and stare at each other and chat. Probably like that, maybe if it's a group of people, we'll like do one of those Zoom things that you know, but not like a one-on-one. That's probably not gonna happen. And I feel like there's a psychological component for me where because we do this, like I feel like I need to be like on. I feel like I need to be, you know, looking and paying attention and locked in. Whereas the reality of the FaceTime is depending again who you're talking to, it can still be a casual thing where you're just sitting down on the couch, you're watching a show, you're just holding the phone by your side, not even looking at it, but you're just hearing the person. You might occasionally look over, give a nod, give a wink, and then get back to doing what you're doing. But I can't be locked in on the FaceTime, it's too it demands too much of me.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

I've made my decision. If it is a multiple multiple people, FaceTime's totally cool, maybe even cooler. If it is one solo person, that's weird, don't do that. Um, unless it is somebody of the opposite gender, which then that allows it to be okay again. But then again, I've been on vacations with a bunch of people, and they're just and they're just FaceTime and their girlfriends like 24-7. I'm like, this is why I don't want to do that. That seems terrible.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

They're they're they're bad examples of what, yeah, but of where you're seeing a lot of bad examples.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

Yeah, I don't know, dude. I don't know. This whole girlfriend thing is you guys, I don't know how you people do it. Oh, so deep from deep.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

Oh, this guy's good. Listen, see and I are married. We we can't all have girlfriends, you know. I I know that I know some people out there like to do both, yeah. Maybe even take a boat ride, but you can't not everyone can do that. Not everyone can you know, thread that needle.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Yeah, Mike Brable gotta step down now. No other choice. Nah, so does so does Drake May.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

That's my coach. Jason in the chat says, Can your next show be a zoom meet? You know, that introduces something kind of fun, obviously, not like the next show, it would take a little planning, but I think we should have a show that we publicize the Zoom link, like we put the Zoom link out on social media, and it's like, Yeah, well, like we're we're gonna host the show. I don't know if we how how we do the like turn everybody else's mic off or whatever, but we have like a live studio audience, everybody can be involved. Maybe you raise your hand, you got a question.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Yeah, let a bunch of lunatics in there.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

I love yeah, a bunch of wild people. Like, we got we got more than 2,000 people watching with us live right now. So this is that with all these faces hanging out.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

This is interesting. So, would they be muted as they're watching? And we could we could unmute them?

SPEAKER_03 42:10

Like, how does that actually work? That's that's what I think. Yeah, that's the plan.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

Would we be able to broadcast it on YouTube?

SPEAKER_03 42:17

I don't know how that all works. Yeah, don't ask me technical questions.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

That sounds like it would be tough to use two different platforms.

SPEAKER_03 42:23

I'm an ideas man, see ya.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Yeah, yeah, it's a fun idea.

SPEAKER_03 42:28

Thank you. I like it, I like it. We should do that. Um, is SPJ working in Costa Rican shadows? He can maybe tell us if we can do this.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

So, yeah, we've got we've got golf updates here. So, uh, I did want to ask, and Japan's saying that that now Smalley is tied with Wallace. The problem is Wallace is on a par five, and that's that's the par five that Smalley just birdied. So we have to. I'm assuming because Wallace is a good position off the fairway. I think he's gonna end up birding that hole.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

Uh, you have somebody over Wallace as well. I have uh Denny over Wallace.

SPEAKER_04 42:58

I have Smalley over Wallace, and I have Connors over Casty Castilio.

SPEAKER_03 43:03

Um making people up.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

How many bets is is too many bets in golf? It's no such thing. Because Thorb. Uh, we have like three tournaments that we have outrights on, and we could have very easily had six with the champions tour, the LPGA, and live Virginia, which you might have even bet. I have outrights across three tours, and I and I I could have easily bet more.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Can I answer your question with a question? Yes, how much money you got left in your bankroll? Yeah, because if you still got money available to you, then you can still place more golf bets.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

Yeah, I I don't bet a lot on my outrights like Thorb does, like it's not even a full unit total on on my outrights for a given tournament. Uh, and I try to seven to 10x my return. But Thorb, you've got to have a lot of money out there right now.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Yeah, man, a scary amount. Yeah. Um, I also have set six matchup bets just for the truest today. Um, just because I was bored. Um But yeah, there's a lot of money floating around there. Uh, I only did the three tournaments, and then I realized I was like, oh, the PGA championships next week. I probably shouldn't go nuts this week. But uh I already have the PGA championship all bet with an obscene amount of money that I did not realize I've been doing for the last four months. So yeah, I I have I have guys that I wouldn't even have considered, but I have full outrights on them for next week. So I don't know. I don't know. I have like probably 14 guys bet next week that I had no idea that it's not good. They're all good numbers, they're good numbers, but but they're not so they're gonna lose. Correct. Um, but the do bets do future bets count as bets? Nah, I don't think so. Yes, I never I never factored in that money. That money's gone. I think I understand the question.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

Well, so for for purposes of what like I do bet, like I've got a bet Scotty Scheffler twin a major this year. That would be a future bet. That doesn't count to you.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Doesn't count. Yeah, when'd you place that? Like two months ago?

SPEAKER_03 45:07

Uh yeah, probably. So I mean again, it was for this year.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

Yeah, it's irrelevant. That's gone.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

Yeah, for purposes of what you and I do, Adam, with respect to like putting out official picks, yeah, the future wouldn't necessarily count. In other words, yeah, it counts, but I wouldn't necessarily put that out if I I hadn't already put it out earlier. Yeah, so I kind of see where Thorb is coming from. Like, yeah, it counts as a bet to his bank account, but like if he's talking about hey, who's gonna win the PGA championship, he might not like go back to a bet from like a year ago that he does he's not in love with anymore.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I think um, because I don't I like I can't even give out. Well, it's unfortunate that our show is now like Thursday after tournament's already started, because this is where I normally actually give my picks, but um, like I wouldn't even be able to give any of these out. These these were these were so long ago, and the numbers are not even close. Um, all I know is if Fitzpatrick wins the PJ Championship, I'm so fucking rich. I know that. I bet him, I thought I bet him twice, I bet him about seven times at just different moments, different numbers, all good numbers, but good lord, I bet him way more than I thought. Five figures, right? Um, yes, return, not not invested, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't even know how much invested. Yeah, because I got him at like 80, 70, 50, 33, 33 again, and I just kept doing it. Um, and I didn't even know I was doing it. It's just natural.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

I see a number and I attack. So does that make you more excited, or does it irritate you that you just blindly kept betting a dude unaware that you had already done it X number of times?

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Well, here's the thing, dude. If it's Sunday and he's like down, he's back to he's like back two strokes, that's gonna be the greatest sweat of all time.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

You know, no, of course, yeah. I mean, the the outcome of the bet is gonna determine it ultimately, but I mean, like right now, pre-tournament, are you excited that you've got that much exposure on the guy, or is it like, oh man, I wish I had dialed that back a bit?

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Theoretically, he's probably the best guy to have exposure on currently, so that's good. But then again, but here's the thing, dude. If he misses the cut PGA championship, bet didn't even count anyway. Those were placed so long ago, so long ago, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

The cool thing is when you have multiple bets, and sometimes I'll think to do this before a tournament, where I'll bet and outright twice, not because not because it's an accident, but because I want to have the ability to flirt with the cash out with one of them. Sure, I really like that idea where especially if it's like a good amount of money potentially coming back, I don't need to worry about hedging the ticket if I can cash out one of them at a at a pretty good amount. I I prefer hedging in general, but you don't need to if you if you have just the same outright ticket twice.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

I have 13 guys, that's just 13 outrights. That's ridiculous, man. You want to just list them all?

SPEAKER_03 47:56

14. I was gonna say 20.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

13 out of 20. This'll be interesting, though. I want to know the numbers that you got on some of these guys. So can you list them?

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Um, I might not have all the information on them. Um, I have all right, I'll just I'll run it down. Sure. Some are bad though, so some aren't good, but some are good. Um, so I have Ludwig at 20. I don't know what he's at now. Um Rom at 17 and a half, Xander at 22 and a half, Vic at 35. That seems bad now. Um Hatton at 50, Fitz at 80, 70, 54, and 33 twice. Wow. Um, why do I have Thomas Dietrich? I don't even know he's got the bet.

SPEAKER_04 48:47

Oh, you guys are so far from the place.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Low key, low key, low-key playing good on live, dude. I'll say that. Um, so I have Brooks at 40. That's probably shit. Um, I have Adam Scott at 125. That seems good. There's no way he's that now. Um I have Ricky Fowler at 200. I have Keegan Bradley, man. What the fuck am I doing? Um Keegan Bradley. Why? Yeah, I have him. I have Fox at 200, I have Nap at 200, which I thought was awesome, and now he's just not playing every tournament. Um, and that that is it. That is it. Um, yeah, I like some of them, but not all of them.

SPEAKER_04 49:27

So a lot of those are are dead, but the value that you have on Fitzpatrick, who was definitely one of the top four players in well, I shouldn't say in the world, because Ron and Bryson factor in, that's still pretty great numbers.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

Yeah, Fitz wins, I get 11.6k. Which would be cool. Yeah, that'd be cool. But dude, uh the amount of money I must have like on the PGA isn't because like each of these guys, I I I have it down to win at least 3k. At least. So the amount of money on this is it's kind of crazy. Um, so yeah, if nobody, if none of those guys are just read off win next week, so something's gonna happen to my accounts where there's just like I don't know if it'll retroact to to or like go to in like my picket, it'll be like, oh, this day you just lost four grand, or it'll be it'll like retro retrograde back to fucking like two months ago and then it'll count the losses back then. I don't know how that's gonna work because I keep trying to track like my months to see how it when it settles, it settles. Yeah, it doesn't go all the way back to back then. Because I think sometimes when I've won a golf bet or lost golf bets, it'll count as like a Thursday bet when like the tournament started.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

I don't think I don't think it does that on picket. It may it may in the book, like specific to the I know a lot of the time on uh like MGM, for instance, if you place a bet, it whenever it settles, it you can't find it if you placed it a million years ago because it goes all the way back timing-wise in order of slips based on when you placed them. That's where it settles it, and so it doesn't just like land at the top. But picket, I think, you know, as stuff comes in, it comes in. Like it's I think that's just how it happens. That's how I would like it to work. I don't know if it's worked like that in the past.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

I have so many bets out all the time, dude. I don't know what's happening.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

I had a Celtics to win the East Bet, and that obviously didn't come through, and it settled, and I took the loss on that day. On that day, maybe, or maybe even the next day, but it certainly didn't go back to when I placed the bet. Okay, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

All right, so then it'll be very funny to see my Sunday number come the PJ. There's no way it's positive, even if I get a winner at this point. Like, there's almost no I have too many people. I have too many. Well, a lot of them are each ways, I guess. So theoretically, you know, some of them place. Ah oh boy, okay, should be fun. Go fits.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

Yeah, Joe, right there, would you? I gotta before we I know we're running short on time. We got a show coming up top of the hour here. And if you're listening on the podcast, that means nothing to you other than to tell you we have six or seven minutes left. I gotta go back to excuse me, something Jason said in the chat about the TMZ video with Vrabel and Roussini that has come out today. Which, if you missed it, apparently they chartered a boat together. The two of them went on uh down in Nashville when she was seven months pregnant or whatever. And so take with that what you will, yeah. But Jason writes, How is Rabel surrounded by investigative reporters? This goes on for six years with no one knowing. Come on, and so this has been a popular conversation in one of my text threats, and uh I think the like my big takeaway from all of this, and I'm not playing the morality police, and I certainly feel for the people that are involved, namely the families and all of that. That's not has nothing to do with with my main point here. My main point is these videos and photos and all of these things are surfacing from four, five, six years ago that have just been sitting on people's phones not seeing the light of day until finally a scandal arises and everybody just like rallies together, and all of these things are coming out. Clearly, some people are looking for paydays and all of that, hence TMZ. But uh, it's just amazing that this stuff existed in the first place and just sat dormant, like maybe to never see the light of day, and yet here it is. It speaks to the fact that say what you want about the cesspool that is social media. Uh social media, I mean, this is evidence of what happens when everyone bands together. Like, how is there hunger in this world? How is homelessness a thing? What like it is effortless what people on social media do when they want to get to the bottom of something. Everyone gets to get like, like, what what else are these people guilty of? You're gonna find out because somebody is gonna unearth it. It's just it's it's astounding to me, it's impressive, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

Well, I think first of all, um those two love each other, right? So now it's kind of a cute story, you know what I mean? Because you're not just you're not just you're not just banging a seven seven month pregnant chick on a boat unless you love her, you know what I mean? So now it's a beautiful story. Now it's a beautiful see, but now the bad thing is they can't get back together once they both uh uh settle their divorces, which are incoming, I would imagine. Um, because now there's too much heat, there's too much heat around it, but they clearly love each other, you know what I mean? It's beautiful. You agree?

SPEAKER_03 54:50

But I mean, look, they they they seem uh again, it it goes back long enough that clearly there was a real relationship of some kind there.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Is it his kid?

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Yes or no? DMZ hasn't told us yet.

SPEAKER_04 55:07

Hey, I have a question. The boat thing, because I I really haven't followed up on this story. The boat thing is it just that we know through like business records they chartered it together, or no pictures of that.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

There's video there's a scuba diver that was underneath the water, popped up, took the photos, went back down. There's video of the cartoon.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

Like we could probably show it if not for the fact that we were you're running out of the room.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Do you believe that they were having sex now?

SPEAKER_03 55:30

There's there's video of them literally like walking down the dock and signing waivers, and she's pregnant, like very pregnant, and it's like they're in public.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Like, it's maybe he was just supporting like a water birth scenario. We don't know.

SPEAKER_04 55:45

I mean, so the thing the thing about like people sitting on pictures and stuff like that. I mean, she is an NFL reporter, he is an NFL head coach. Like, there is the perception of like, oh, like they have a they have a close relationship, she's getting news. So I'm not saying that the cheating didn't happen. I'm just saying, like, if you listen, if you had that picture, you wouldn't go to TMZ and be like, hey, look, Diana Rsini's talking to Mike Vrabel. You would, I mean, on a boat is a different story. That's kind of weird being pregnant and whatnot, but like like just having pictures of them together wouldn't be like, oh, I gotta get this out to TMZ. That's her job to talk to coaches on a boat pregnant. No, the boat thing is different, but I'm just saying all the other all the other like unearthed things have like actual occupational reasons for them. So I'm just my my point is you wouldn't need to be like running to TMZ if you saw a coach talking to a female reporter.

SPEAKER_03 56:38

The chat see you needs to see the sex taper, it ain't real. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

No, I'm not I'm just saying, like, I'm actually responding. I'm responding to Adam's point, not not whether or not they actually hooked up. I just don't think it's weird that people have stuff on their phones that otherwise might have seemed innocent at the time. The boat thing is obviously odd.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Well, it's good, it's just my it's just money stuff, I guess. Well, or also, like these photos, maybe some kid with 48 followers could have probably posted something like a while ago, but before it became a story, no one gave a shit and no one probably saw it.

SPEAKER_03 57:15

Well, I think it's possible that somebody who knows who took the video, but it's possible that someone like Big Titans fan, right? Saw Mike Vrabel out in the wild and didn't even write, like maybe thought the woman was his wife, didn't even know it was Diana Rossini. Yeah, how would you and then all of this happens and goes back, looks at the video, and it's like, look what I've stumbled upon.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

You think that five, what's he five? He's got Twitter, you think he's probably going through a rough time if he does. Who you know, the the kid Mike or Mike Jr.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

No, little Mike four or five years old. Yeah, I don't I don't think Mike's hanging out on Twitter. Uh Mike gets to read about all of this when he's older.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

Yeah, yeah, good for him. It's a beautiful love story when you really think about it, when you break it down. You know what I mean? See, if you're you're you have an affair with a chick, right? Now picture this. Are you still are you still committed? Were you are you going out on a boat with her while she's seven months pregnant? You doing that?

SPEAKER_04 58:15

So I I thought that was more like okay, we got to be in isolation to get our stories straight here. This is this has become like a bigger thing than we could have anticipated. I didn't, I I just don't I wouldn't have imagined that as like a hookup scenario, right?

SPEAKER_03 58:29

Like I know Thorpe, you just said that this was this was like five years ago, right? Or some shit. This was right before little Mike was born, yeah. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

No, I'm just saying, like, let's have a let's have a conversation in absolute isolation because this is some serious stuff. When I heard the story, that's what I thought initially.

SPEAKER_02 58:43

I didn't think like because they're in love and it's beautiful. Yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

Yeah, what a story. The biopic of this in five years is gonna do numbers.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

I hope that kid grows up and looks fucking identical to Mike Ranger.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Are the Patriots gonna have even more haters than they already had because of this story, or is it not? Is that not a thing?

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Nobody actually cares. Yeah, well, that's I I was gonna say, ask you know, ask Thorb that as a Patriots hater. Like this just this has nothing to do with football at all.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

I mean, obviously, obviously, Mike Vrabel has to step down, Drake May has to be cut, and those are things that have to happen.

SPEAKER_04 59:24

You have to cut Drake May.

SPEAKER_02 59:26

I mean, even if Rabel keeps his job, you gotta you gotta cut Drake May. Gotta get rid of Drake May, yeah. So, yeah, I think that's pretty cool, and it's a beautiful love story.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

All right, well, I guess we should go. There is another show after us. There are a couple shows actually still to come. I'll be back in an hour, uh, after I take a boat ride, and I will be on off the bump with Danny Burke. But uh, coming up, we've it I want to tell you it's puck it, it's not puckett, it's actually the afternoon bedspresso with the crew. So make sure you stick around for that. Boys, uh, great to be a trio again. We missed you last week, Thorb.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:02

Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

You should start packing.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Shut up, see ya.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

Make that sound.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:07

It's an okay show today.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:08

You should start packing last week.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:09

Was great.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:10

Last week was better, but this one was a show. All right, we're gonna go. The three of us are gonna hop on a FaceTime and uh stand standing by for uh Puckett. No, it's not Puckett, but espresso is next. We'll see ya bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

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SPEAKER_02 1:00:25

Now, I bet Mike goes to the movies with uh Diana Adam. Yeah, he probably does because he probably does because he likes her, it's a beautiful love story, yeah, yeah.