No Plays Off Episode 24

Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off," chat about Thorb's growth on Spotify, various uses of social media, Linsanity, the current Knicks team & so much more!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Woo! Welcome into that restaurant or whatever's going on on that graphic that says open. It's no plays off across BNN. See ya, Thorb, Adam hanging out with you. Fellas, it's it's wonderful to see you. Can I can I just tell you, I was at the supermarket earlier. That's right, ladies. He's happily married and domesticated. I was at the supermarket, and so you see this shirt. I'm wearing this Batman shirt. Earlier, I had basically the same shirt, except it was a Superman logo. And I'm over at the checkout. And the guy that was bagging the groceries, I was gonna say the bagger, but that felt like demeaning. The guy bagging the groceries, older gentleman, maybe they're in retirement, I'm not really sure. But he's just kind of looking at me. He's looking at me up and down. And he just kind of leans in as he's bagging the groceries and he says, So you're Superman. And I kind of laugh it off, right? I kind of laugh it off. In part because, like, guy, look at me, look at this build. Yeah, I'm Superman. Living in the gym like Thorb here. And see it. Don't worry, you two. But what was weird about it, like it was funny at first, you know, we're having our little laugh. Ah, nice. Embarrassing, really, that you both did that at the same time. Let's screen grab that people in the chat. But he kept going, he did it like five times to the point where it it just kind of got uncomfortable for me. And then as I'm leaving, everything is in the cart. Pulls me in, like physically pulls me in and go and goes, I won't tell anyone. I I thought it was like That's actually awesome. I guess I guess this guy and I shared something. I guess we shared a real moment.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Yeah, he said Superman though, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:25

He did, yeah. But you know, I I I I no Clark Kent, no glasses, but I was there, you know, all logoed up.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Right. Yeah, I'll ignore the fact that you dress like a 13-year-old boy. You should, but yeah, but yeah, that that's a good story. That's a good story. Appreciate you. I like I like that. How are we doing? What's the Batman thing? Den and yeah, just like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

Yeah, sure. Aren't you supposed to be musically inclined? Not with Batman theme songs. Well, there's a new He-Man movie coming out. You gotta catch up on your superheroes. What the hell is He-Man?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

What Thorb, you've got a new song coming out, right? That on the dot song. When is that coming out? Yeah, next Friday.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

Next Friday. It's really good. That's a good one. Dude, my music's doing real well. Real happy about it.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

How do you read that? Like, what's the barometer?

SPEAKER_04 3:15

Yeah, what does that mean? Uh well, there's an app that tracks everything, like on each platform. But like, I know Spotify is doing super well. What are you asking? Do you want to know what I think super well is?

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Well, like, how do you even gauge it? Is it just because of what you get per month from Spotify, or is there you see the the downloads or whatever the streams or whatever?

SPEAKER_04 3:34

Oh, you get I get all data, like the amount of listeners, the amount of street, the amount of streams per month, um, the amount of follows, saves, downloads, playlist ads, everything.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

So it's up now versus what it would have been like six months ago?

SPEAKER_04 3:48

Huge majorly. Wow. What do you attribute that to? This show don't know this show plays off.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah, well, I don't want to say anything.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Yeah, I don't it's it's probably tripled since like six months ago, which is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Yeah, you don't know what you attribute that to because I'm genuinely curious. Is it because you're just pumping out a ton of music or is something's landing, or you you've you've like you've like carved out a whole new like set of people in a whole like a different country or something that are listening to the other thing.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Who went to the content house? So yeah, that doesn't have anything to do with it though. Um, I uh it it all goes back to being very consistent over like the last five years. I think it's like a it's like an aha moment of just everything kind of working now of stuff that I've already done. Because like what happened was a couple old songs like just started popping off out of nowhere. I don't even really know why. And then once they did, then another song randomly took off, and then another song took off, and then it just kind of happens like that, and then you just kind of keep keep going. Because I've always wanted to get to I thought I wasn't a real well, it's gonna sound weird, I guess, because it's a high goal, but um, I thought you weren't like a real artist or could actually make money off music until you were getting like a million streams per month, uh, which is a lot, like and like a lot. I yeah, so in the last two months I've got 1.3 mil a month, uh each of the last two months, which is super good. Like, that's the only thing I've been proud of myself about. Like before, when I was getting like 750,000 streams a month, I was like, this sucks, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Which most people would think is cool, I guess. We're in on the ground floor of of Thorb's, you know, real coming out party in the industry. Where are you like? See you kind of alluded to this in the same way that like David Hasselhoff is huge in Germany. Where is Thorb really big? Where are the bulk of the coming from?

SPEAKER_04 5:46

That's a good question. All right, so because the weird thing is I I checked so two songs really started going crazy.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Can I guess?

SPEAKER_04 5:55

Well, it wouldn't be a guess because it's Spotify would tell you, but sure. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

No, well, I mean, I I don't know what's I mean, I'm not looking at Spotify in terms of when I listen to your music. Can I guess the song is what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 6:05

Um Wave, wrong, dog, way wrong, actually. Dog Dog Dog is probably close to dead last.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

I love that song.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Oh, I know, yeah. Rolling on you, not even close. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Okay, carry on.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

Probably not even top 50. Um, yeah, it's weird. The songs like you that you send me a lot that like I also really enjoy, nothing. But um, so it's God Body and Soprano. Oh, those are good. They're like by far the most uh and and I was like, I was wondering why. I was trying to figure out like what happened to make them like that, and I still don't necessarily know why, but um, I would go on TikTok and Instagram and I would search like myself to find like my sounds to see if anyone's using like my music in their reels or their TikToks or whatever. And then so I checked like Soprano the other day, and it was over 3,000 people have made reels with that song. And dude, I'm looking through it all foreign. Oh not all of them, but like Jap, like Japanese, Chinese, India, like just everywhere. I'm like, how I was like, what is going on? Am I getting paid for this? Like, I have no idea what's going on, and then the same thing with uh God Body over on TikTok, dude. It's all just like foreign videos that like just different language stuff. Like, I it it was it was wild to see.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Do you think you because the titles of the songs like might have like some keywords that they might look for? Do you think that like they might type in God and like that's popping up?

SPEAKER_02 7:31

I don't think so because like if people go on vacation to California and they just post a reel with California love in the background, right?

SPEAKER_04 7:39

No, because if you wanted anything to do with God, that would not be your song. That that wouldn't be the one. So I don't think so. I mean, Soprano, maybe I don't know. It's just because like those have somewhat similar vibes to and Spotify is really good. Granted, they pay you 0.0001 of a penny per stream, which is not good, but they're very good at getting your music out there. So if people are really enjoying one thing or one song, they'll be like, Okay, people must like this guy. Let's take this song, test this out in a different market, and then see if it and then if that works, it'll just send you every it's basically like any other algorithm on social media, yeah. It's it's just music. So um, I think that's more more so what happened.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

I feel like I can't relate, obviously, to you know, people using me as a soundtrack, like what we're talking about for reels and stories and whatever. I feel like I would be obsessed, though, with just watching not all, but but just to see like what people are doing that they have decided to use my song as the background of, right? Yeah, I would really I would enjoy watching that. Are you not watching these stories?

SPEAKER_04 8:50

There's still there's so many to go through that, like I was just like, all right, I'll just let it run. Uh well, uh, because I I used to a lot when there was only like 10 videos. I'm like, well, what are these people doing? Like, there was like a kid in Indy on a dirt road riding a dirt bike backwards to one of my songs. I was like, what is happening? Like, I I don't know, it's it's a bunch of it's everything, dude. It's it's you I never know what's happening with the music. I don't know how these people are getting hold of it either.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Stifler, we're talking about Thorb's music. We don't need to hear about your darts bangers right now. We'll get there. We'll get there, buddy. He's got a play on Luke Littler. He's got a play on Luke Littler every day. He plays it's just guys named Luke. Luke Littler, Luke Humphreys, uh he's a big Luke guy. Just the Luke's. The Luke's are all out. They're huge in the dart space. If you have a kid named Luke, that's your future.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

Start to let see last Luke Littler bet I read uh road with you, stiffler did not work.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Yeah, plus 110, though. That's good, it's good. Japan in the chat too. Uh Shyste, Shysti bit in the chat, and we've got uh in the chat as well. We're all we're not on YouTube, so people are asking in the in the comments. By the way, make sure you download and follow the podcast. But uh, yeah, no YouTube. We got in trouble again, right, Adam?

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Did we really? That's the word on the street. I I don't know if it was this show, another I doubt it was this show, couldn't have been us.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

I think it just happened like a day ago.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Uh well, then it definitely wasn't us. We're we're in the clear. What the what the hell, rest of you at BNN? What have you been up to? Yeah, I never say anything out of line on this show. I was on a show yesterday, so it could have been me. I could you guys are off the hook.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Do you think they're looking for keywords? Because one time I was watching, and just the once? One time it was like a week and a half ago, and SBJ said something, it was perfectly the conversation was innocent, but he said something like, and I was watching on YouTube by the way, and he said something like, It's like dealing, it's like giving crack to a crack dealer. And I'm not joking, within a half a second, the stream went off, and YouTube said something about violating something or other. I never told SBJ that because I didn't think like there would be some automated system, like saying the word like crack dealer shouldn't be something to get you off of YouTube. But I am telling you, it was actually instantaneous. I thought it was a coincidence, but it's happening so much. I'm just I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Are you just trying to say it as many times as you can right now? Since we're not already off, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Now we're gonna be suspended even longer, Jerry.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Yeah, we're gonna get off of Twitch now because Sia keeps saying crack dealer. Yeah, that's three times now. At least it's three cracks. Oh a biz in the background. Intern Alex is not afraid of the boogeyman. He just went. I I would I would like to be on YouTube. Yeah, I mean, I personally would like that. Sook in the chat says he said way worse shit. Japan said AI, always watching for the keywords.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

It couldn't be that though, because like to to not be able to use keywords like without uh assessing context. I can't believe you. Oh, yeah, you still got that cough, Adam. That's a shame.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

I muted that one. Yeah, yeah. I said I was gonna beat the hell out of a woman on this show.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

You did multiple times, like you have context, like an uncomfortable amount of times, actually.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Yeah, but AI ain't looking for context, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Yeah, the cough's winning, says stifler. Yeah, cough's still alive there, sook. Uh, speaking of speaking of AI, by the way, I was doom scrolling Instagram yesterday, and I I don't know, I see a lot of repeat types of videos, like all these you know, lunatics that are doing like the Puerto Rico song videos. Uh, but somebody at least not like tell me you know what you're what I'm talking about with the with the Puerto Rico dance songs.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

I don't even know how that's possible, but we'll remove that from this for a second. Uh this guy, it really like what he was going for. I guess the idea was funny, but it just kind of made me sad. If you're of a certain age, and see uh I look at you here because Thorb's the baby of the bunch. Ouch, you're at least familiar with Weird Al Yankovic. Of course, yes. I don't know if Thorb is. Thorb may be too young. So this guy apparently, I don't think it was like a bit, I think it was genuine, and he was just marveling at how upsetting this was. He's like, So my 12-year-old came home from school, and apparently her and her friends have been listening to all these parody songs where this uh where where apparently artificial intelligence is is taking songs and rewriting them to funny words and making the songs funny, and so I asked about it, and yeah, she said it's this thing called weird AI, you know, as opposed to weird al. It's weird, but it's but it's not weird AI, it it it just is weird al. It's just AI looks, you know, Al, they can look the same, the lowercase L. But I get it. But they're listening, they're listening to Weird Al Yankovic songs from our childhood, see ya, and they think these are brand new AI creations, like him doing, you know, Amish Paradise as opposed to Gangster's Paradise, or you know, white and nerdy, that's white and dirty, or eat it instead of beat it, or or fat instead of bad, the Michael Jackson ones. It's like, what? Why we're we're like Weird Al needs to honestly, Weird Al should be coming out with another song about this. That's that's what should be happening right now. That's probably just good promotion for him, though.

SPEAKER_04 14:24

Probably, yeah. Good for weird.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

If we could go back to the the YouTube uh slap on the wrists, Japan is informing us that AI is like, at least for Snapchat, which he is on, I'm not. Uh says that they are like kind of keying in on key words. I it would be nice if that's the case, it would be nice to know what the key catchphrases are. Sure. Like, give us a list, maybe we could look that up.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Stifler says his confidence seeing all the hate he gets on Twitter. Just curious if he sees my messages. That's good.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

I've not stiffer, send them over. Did you guys used to get explicit uh photographs from women on Snapchat back in the day, or are you guys too old for that? I was never on Snapchat.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Me neither.

SPEAKER_04 15:06

Uh yeah, too old. Good times, man. Good times should have been there. Alex Alex nodding his head vigorously too much because it because everything disappears on Snapchat. So girls felt safe, you know, they felt safe.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

The girls felt safe. Is that still a thing? Like that that can't like you can still screen grab stuff.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

Like Snapchat can't sure, but it alerts you it alerts you. So if you do that, you know, you're a bad guy. You're a bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Okay, so so if a girl sent you something that's gonna vanish, but you screen grab it, she gets a notification that you did that.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Yeah, what does it say? Does it say like this?

SPEAKER_02 15:40

I am uncomfortable with how vigorously a biz is nodding his head. How many times have you done this, Biz?

SPEAKER_04 15:47

It's like um it'd be like keep going. It would say Thor Thorb just screenshotted your your message, okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:58

Thorb is a giant fucking creep.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but what you would do instead, you would just you if you hold the message because it'll have like a 10-second timer, but if you put your finger on it, it'll stay as long as you want. So you put your finger on it, you show all your boys, be like, Look at these, look at these, and then then then you let it go, you know.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

No, there were a lot of people in my high school got that got in trouble for that. Like they would hold it down and they would have someone else take a picture of it with their phone, yeah. So then the other lady doesn't know. Jesus Christ. Way to get innovative, guys.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

A lot of things. I mean, that's a lot of people. I don't know about you, because again, we're we're much older than these two here, but there are times that I, you know, like I'll be upset with not that I can control it, but like when I was born, right? It's like, man, I would I wish when I was younger we had all these technological advances that you know my kids today have, and then I hear shit like this, and I think I like I I wish I had been born even earlier and wasn't exposed to any of this crap.

SPEAKER_04 16:57

No, it's good, man. It was good, it's good, good, should have been there. No, glad I wasn't. Yeah, it was fun.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Okay, speaking of back in the day, yeah, can we address the Lynn Sanity thing that didn't really it didn't really get a lot of traction? Not let's see what the votes are. So, for those of you that weren't paying attention or or who were not on Twitter, which is another conversation, are people just so frustrated with Twitter they're just not on it anymore? Can we start there?

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Uh yeah, I I mean I still spend a lot of time on it, but I in the greater sense, I I think yeah, I think Elon has unfortunately just wrecked the platform. A lot of people have either migrated to Blue Sky or somewhere else, or they've just you know they they they're not used Jen when people I think when a lot of people joined Twitter, it was for you know news gathering and that sort of thing, and obviously it be it evolved into the social platform that it became. But then after a while, with so many changes to the algorithm and just not picking up followers anymore, and you know, the four you feeds and all that stuff, I think people just got aggravated and left.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

I I'm still surprised because I do get some tweets that get a lot of engagement and some don't, but I'm still surprised because even with that frustration, if you're anywhere near the sports space, or forget about politics. I mean, that could be you could do that anywhere, I guess. But if you're anywhere near the sports space or even like a little bit of pop culture, I feel like you'd want to be on Twitter. Like you wouldn't want to be on Instagram for that, you wouldn't want to be on blue sky, like nobody's really like doing the blue sky thing, you wouldn't want to be on threads, like Twitter would be the only home for that still, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:35

I don't use threads at all, but use I mean, let's use Thorb as a case study because again, he is he's part of a younger generation. You've got a much smaller following on Twitter than you do your other social platforms. Do you use the app less?

SPEAKER_04 18:51

No, well, no, I I would say I'm almost on it more just because sports is a big part of it, and it's just like I don't know, I don't like it as much now. Obviously, it was way better back in the day, but um, yeah, I don't post on Twitter, but I I'm on it often, and that's I would say that's mostly a sports thing. Like I'll have like I got notifications on for like the chef there's and the the rapapours and all the people that like I want. I actually do have notifications on for Sia, but I and yet I still never see them for when he wins a bet that I would have bet.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

I'm on a I'm on a streak right now. I'm I might I might cash another plus 186 three ball, but I've won I think seven out of my last eight. Uh that includes a push that actually made money.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

I'm I'm rolling after a coming full streak. Been on zero of those. Actually, yeah, see, can we test this and then um so for your next one? Can you text me? And if if if it hits, we're good. If if it does not, I will stay, I'll continue to stay.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Then I can blame you. Yeah, for Friday's show, I'll I'll have a uh I'll I'll have a pick, at least one pick, so I'll let you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Okay, that sounds good. Alex I don't want to ruin it. You're doing good.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Thank you. I do appreciate that because I know you kind of believe you do ruin it, and I will, I will I don't know it's possible. Yeah, Alex uh stifler in the chat, of course, is uh Jeff Stenberg says uh Biz, you're an infant. What's your preferred social media? And if not preferred, like give me at least a ranking system, what you use when you use it.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Well, he's an infant, so the playground. All right.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

You're reaching. Okay. So I use TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and Snapchat. Snapchat I use the most for communication outside of like messages, obviously. Uh Instagram, like to keep up with the keep up with the fellows and friends, all that good stuff. Uh Twitter's mostly for for sports. Uh, and then TikTok, if I'm just bored sitting on my bed doom scrolling, you know. So you're still getting boobies.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

That's sick. On what? Good for you on the Snapchat, dude.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Sure, you could say that.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

Yeah, yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Are you on the dating app, Fiz? No, I have a girlfriend. So are you on the dating app, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Answer the question, man.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Yeah, simple yes or no. Stop deflecting.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

How long? Yeah, how long have you been dating your girlfriend, Alex?

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Uh, let's see. That sounds like a long time. What would she say? Two and a half years with a little break in the middle. Okay. And in that break in the middle, I was on Tinder. Oh, that couldn't have gone over well. Yeah. Did you see her on there? And yeah, I was gonna ask. Was she on there? No, I didn't. I saw all of my other exes, though. That was kind of funny. Which way did you swipe? Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

Yeah, you gotta run it back sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Yeah, he swiped for familiarity there, Thorpe.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Stiffler in the chat says the most popular dating app in Nebraska is ancestry.com. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Do y'all remember farmers only in those like corny? I love those commercials, man.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

I love those. I mean, there have been a million versions of like there was that, there I assume Christian one, right? I the Christian one, I assume J Date's still a thing. Um, what's the um what's what's the fun one? There's a celebrity one, too. Like, there's one for like really incredibly wealthy people, but I don't because I remember Ben Affleck talking about how he was on that in between one of his relationships. Hell yeah, huh? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

We're getting horse racing picks in the chat. Is that Jeff Hockman by any chance? Do we know who picking horses is? Oh, la believe, la believe, la bella vie.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

You're just making sounds up now.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

He's uh giving us baseball picks too, but as one bell, all of it. So, Alex, uh you don't spend a lot of time on Twitter, and I it's that's what it sounds like, and you don't post on Twitter either because I feel like you're not gonna be on Twitter a lot if you're not posting at all. Like I feel like you wouldn't want to be on it if you're not posting.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

I'll post here and there, like if if I'm on a run making some decent bets, like last night I hit 100% of the bets I made, and I posted it on Twitter, and I'm like, this is cool. Here's what I did. Look how fucking smart I am. Yeah, but I mean I used to be like posting here's like six picks, but I mean, I just don't have the time for that.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

So probably less time than the story did. What's that? Boom, probably take less time than the story. Just all right. So here's here my picks.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Adam, it's yeah, you're you're hitting like six out of tens here, but they're not they're not eights. We need you to we need you to get to eights for the show.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

I gotta level up. Stifler says Joffman knows there's a dating app for rich people, but too poor to know the name. Same, Adam. Same.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

I think Stifler needs to come onto the show at some point.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

That does actually I would love to have Stifler on the show, that would be great. That does introduce a topic that I keep forgetting to bring up the last couple of weeks. I'll just ask it now and we can move on. But what is something that feels like I don't want to say status symbol, that would be too much, but feels like something that comes along with a certain level of wealth that you don't actually need to be wealthy to have. I'll give you an example paper towels, paper towels, one of those special excessive paper towels that has the rough side on the one side, and no, I yeah, the good sponge, the good sponges, the good sponges that is a status symbol. Two pie toilet paper. What about uh an irrigation system in your yard? Yeah, in your yard.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

You mean like sprinklers, like where you say irrigation system like it's a golf course?

SPEAKER_02 25:02

No, well, no, that's what it is. Sprinklers are like you connect your hose to your house and you drag them out into the lawn. That's a sprinkler. I'm talking about a system with the underground sprinklers that pop up like a golf course and water your lawn on a timer. What about a bidet?

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Oh, that's good. That's a good answer.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

A bidet is a good one. You can get a bidet kit on Amazon for like 30 bucks. Yeah, but when someone has one, you're like, wait a minute. Yeah, let's let's learn more about your 401k. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Are sprinklers again, sprinklers are are they expensive? Like if you have like a decent sized front and backyard to get those installed, that's not expensive.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I mean, it would be in the thousands, but it's not gonna like you know, you're you're not gonna say, Oh my god, how do I possibly go on?

SPEAKER_00 25:51

But when you say thousands, are you saying like 3k or like 7,500? What do you mean? I don't know, man. Let me Google it. You don't have an irrigation system. You don't know the answer to how expensive it is. It sounds expensive, is what I'm saying. So I don't know if that's a fit answer.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

I'm just Googling how much is an irrigation system?

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Well, between $2,500 and $5,500 for a standard residential yard. There we go.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Okay, so that's a good one. It's a good answer. Thank you. Yeah, good. All right.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

Do you have one? What about what about one of those lawn mowers that you sit in but has like the handles and they just fucking you know what I mean? Like those things are crazy. How much would those are probably pricey though? Like a you're just talking a ride, a riding move? No, one of those ones with the arms and then that that rotate when you like push an arm down, and and it's like the one of those 360 joints. Now that's class. That's class.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

I mean, how about having people come and mow your lawn?

SPEAKER_02 26:46

That's what about this amazing like like having a lawn service or having a plow guy, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. True. Guy could just be lazy. I feel I feel like that's I feel like that's still relatively common, though.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

It is, that's right. It's not a great answer.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

So it's got to be some how how about this? I'll give you another one. Um, if you had a not like an over-the-top crazy expensive, obviously, but some version of a home theater system, like you've got you know, a uh a hundred-inch projection screen and the projector on the ceiling, you know, probably run you a few grand. Like it's not crazy expensive, depending on the the models you get and that sort of thing. But you walk into a house and you see that, and it's like, okay, what did this fame get you back?

SPEAKER_04 27:36

Yeah, it's golf simulator, would be one for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, anyone with golf simulator in the house is my hero, basically.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Yeah, how much is that?

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Um, well, depends. Like, if you do it yourself and you have like a shit, like um like I have a what do you call the thing, like a launch monitor that was only like 750 bucks, 800 bucks. Okay, so you you can use one like that, but there's also ones that are 3,000, 5,000, and then if you you can actually have a projector, you can use a net, you can do whatever the hell you want. So it's a big range, but like if you have a really nice one, like with the projector system and everything, then like you're the man to me. You're my hero.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Yeah, that's a good one. So I saw a guy on YouTube or TikTok, whatever it may be, that built one out of just parts from Home Depot for like 400 bucks, and it actually works somewhat well.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

Hmm. Yeah, I'll never be smart enough to even understand how somebody would come up with that idea, let alone execute it.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

That's a PVC pipe as the as the frame got like a big sheet, you know, for an impact screen, and then just had a projector line in his garage.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Yeah, our guy says uh aunt and uncle have a golf sim in their house, said it was the most expensive room by far. I would imagine so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

Hell yeah. Do you guys have like uh special dad powers and are able to just like fix and build things? Or no, no, you got nothing.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Not even a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

No, what I what I do have though is uh special father-in-law powers that see just as good. Seems seems my wife's dad can can do all of that stuff, dude.

SPEAKER_04 29:16

My dad can do any my dad could build a house just like from scratch, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why why can you just do this stuff from scratch? Yeah, let's erect a house today, just real quick. Yeah, it's it's crazy, man. He used to just do like bathrooms on the side, would just fix up people's bathrooms. I'm like, how do you know how to do any of this?

SPEAKER_00 29:38

So I I'm not afraid to say this, and I don't think anybody would be surprised by me saying this. The only like blue-collar person that that can legitimately build stuff from scratch, just kind of how you're describing your dad, Thorbin, who like basically fixes everything in the house, is my wife Gigi. Like, she is like crazy smart when it comes when well, most things, but when it comes to that, they could there could be like a like a 5,000-piece set, it's like a dresser or something, and it's just coming in pieces, and it looks like it would take five or six days to build. She'll have it built in like three and a half hours, and not only built, but like set perfectly where it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Now, she doesn't look look down upon you for this, call you a bitch at any time or anything.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

She might she might look down upon no, she doesn't.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

I mean, maybe under her breath, not to his face. Like, I like that, that's cool. Then you don't need to do anything. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

I accept my role here. That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

That's nice. So you have probably nice hands.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

I do. I do. You got soft hands. Boy, dainty, dainty hands. Yeah, yeah. Soft as they come, soft as they come.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Can we get to the uh kind of guy that shakes hands with people when he meets him and they say, Ooh, you must moisturize.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Not bad, okay. Yeah, we're back. All right, good. All right, what do you got? So this only has 16 votes. And it's an unfair question because obviously, if you're a Knicks fan, you're gonna answer it differently than if you're a non-Knicks fan. So the question, as far as I'm concerned, yeah, is for non-Knicks fans because obviously it's a layup. If you're a Knicks fan, you're excited about the being in them being in the final. However, this is the question more exciting NBA moment, Knicks make the finals or Lin Sanity. And to me, it's so clearly Lin Sanity because of that two-week period that was to me, I can't even think of a better underdog story, a better, oh, that should have never happened story because of injuries and and you know, uh not being drafted and being Asian, which I'm sure was held against him as he was coming up from Harvard and otherwise. I literally can't think of a more exciting sports story than Lin Sanity. So, as a non-Knicks fan, then going to the finals, I can appreciate why that's an important thing for the NBA and for Knicks fans and non-Knicks fans, but it's not close. Like, I kind of don't care. Lynn Sanity, I could you could take me back to that moment, and it would be I would be as excited as ever.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

So I am obviously a Boston fan, but I am not a like while I don't like New York, not the city, just New York teams. I I don't know, but like out of premise, like just but like automatically, I don't like New York teams because it's just in my blood. I am not a Knicks hater, I am not someone that actively roots against this team, and this year's team I find to be incredibly fun to watch. I wanted them to beat the Cavaliers. I still think they're going to lose in the finals to whichever team comes out of the West, but we can talk about that. I I worked in New York, I did TV in New York during Lin Sanity, and that was to see his point so much fun, so incredibly captivating. So, as he said, underdog story, and I know there's been like 30 for 30s and doc multiple documentaries about this 38 at the garden. Yep, yeah, but like books written, all of that. He's still doing interviews about it all these years later. I mean, it truly it made his career. There was never a higher moment in his career from you know, literally, he was sleeping on a teammate's couch at the time, whichever one it was, to all of this happening and to becoming the face of that team for, as Cia said, a couple of weeks. And honestly, like, kind of one of the sneaky best parts about it was how resentful Carmelo Anthony was and how much Mello hated every second of it because he wasn't the guy and he was hurt, and the excuse me, the team and choked up, I guess and the team was doing well, and it was just all about Lynn, and no one was talking about him, and it was it was insane. The things that he was doing and who he was doing it against. Like, there was uh, if I'm remembering this right, there was a game, you know, opposite Kobe, where Kobe was guarding him most of the game, and he still dropped like 40 points or 38 points or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

38 the guard in the title of that documentary is is actually centered around that particular game.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Yeah, so there was so he was it was just crazy it was crazy fun. So, yes, as a non-Nicks fan, in terms of just a moment in time, I like I challenge anyone to find something in in Knicks fandom that rivals Lin Sanity. But sure, this what this team I I think this team would have a different uh kind of aura or thing about it if most people, and I know there are people, but if most people believed they were going to win, I think most people think whether it's the thunder or the Spurs, the Knicks are going down in five or six games, and that takes away from a little bit of what the Linsanity thing was.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

I would like to talk about that actually, because I I have an I have a take here. Please is I feel like the Knicks are getting less credit for beating the shit out of everybody.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

Okay, that's a good point. So, in other words, what you're saying is, yeah, it might have been an easier road for them, but they absolutely just like trucked them, like gronk smashed them so hard that we need to appreciate that, not just like what the actual you know score score was 4-0 at the end of those.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

I feel like if these if these series went to six or seven and there was harder fought games, people would somehow respect the Knicks more because like the Celtics were clear favorites to win the East. Sixers beat them, and we made them look like not even a basketball team. That's right, and like we we get no credit for that. It's like, oh, the Sixers suck, and then people would have picked the Pistons to beat the Knicks, oh and and the Cavs beat them in seven, and then we beat the shit out of the Cavs, and it's like, oh, but the Cavs just suck. Like, I feel like if we if we were doing worse, we would have more respect.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

If they like, let's say, like you said, they beat the Hawks, they beat the Celtics, they beat the Pistons, then sure, people would look at this team differently. But I don't think it going Hawks, you know, overcome that and then kick the crap out of them by the end, sweep the Sixers, and then do what they did against the Cavaliers. Let's say all of those were long series and tightly contested series, people would be looking down at New York even more than anyone is right now. So I don't think it's being held against them that they're kicking the shit out of teams. I think that's a big part of why anyone out there outside of Ben Stiller believes that this team has a chance against the West. Otherwise, everybody would just be saying, you know, we're watching the NBA finals right now in the Western Conference.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

I think that's what people are saying, though.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm yeah, most people are saying what I mean is I I think people are giving the Knicks credit for what they're doing against these bad teams. Not I'm not seeing that.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

You won't find, yeah, you yeah, they might be getting credit, but but to Thorb's larger point, they're not getting credit for being good enough to beat a Western conference team that's left. And I think the question is because they're they destroyed these teams that everybody thinks you know aren't that good, even though they they got to where they got, they're destroying them like so badly that maybe we need to consider them on a slightly higher platform than than we have.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

And I think it's fair, that's kind of my point, yeah. Um, I mean, it's like yes, those whatever whatever team wins, it's going to be harder than the teams we just played. That was always known, but it's not like they're just completely at like they beat the Spurs, I think, two out of three times in the regular season. Um, which is why I think I prefer the Spurs, but I really don't care at this point. Like, it's gonna be tough regardless. I just think like I don't know. I mean, they're not just it's not like they're just they're getting by these teams that people think stink who beat the teams that people thought were better than those teams. They're beating the shit out of them, like to where it's just simply not even close, like a crazy run. And it's just like oh, they're just gonna lose next next round. No pray. And they might, like, you know what I mean. But I think I think it's crazy how everyone just thinks they have no shot after what just after what they just watched for 12 straight games.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Let's say the Spurs win tonight, and and I hope they do, and I and not just my wallets, but I but but I hope they do, and I hope we get a seven-game series and just an absolute war of attrition in the West. And as we know, Spurs, while the injury report is clean, they're not close to 100%. You got key guys that are out for OKC and have been for multiple games at this point. So the Knicks are sitting back club mending it right now, kicking their feet up for a week and a half before the NBA finals start. Do you think, like, do you and without even like your Knicks fandom, your Knicks bias, do you believe that New York is not capable of winning? Of course, that's true, but is gonna make this a series versus the people out there that think the West is just gonna roll?

SPEAKER_04 39:09

Yeah, 100%. I mean, they're playing way too good right now, they're not playing like how they looked in the regular season by any means, like they're playing way better. It like they and they've always had the players, it's it was never that, it's just like why are they not showing that they're that good of a team and now they are like at the right time? So, like, yeah, I mean, it should be a hell of a series if they're in it. Here's the question if the pistons won game seven and then beat the Knicks in like six, yeah. Are people saying this about the Pistons?

SPEAKER_00 39:40

Well, they're they would be saying that they have no shot against the Western Conference.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Yeah, that would be consistent.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

I I don't know. I think it would be I don't know. Two things weird. One is is Club Med still a thing? Because that sounded like a three-decade old reference. I don't know. I'll Google it. Um I'm pretty sure it's not a thing, so which is why I love the fact that you used it. The other thing is uh this is a bit of a full circle moment for no plays off because Adam and Thorbe. I don't know if you realize this. Yes, still in business, but the Knicks are the Patriots. We were having this same conversation about the New England Patriots, who, for the record, got stomped in the Super Bowl. Okay, this is saying, yeah, easy schedule, didn't have to beat anybody, and all of a sudden they go into the Super Bowl and they get stomped. So this very could this could be the same exact trajectory and outcome for the New York Knicks.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

I think that's slightly disrespectful, but I get where you're coming from. To who? The Patriots or the Knicks? I think they're pretty much on target, yeah. No, I mean the the Knicks, the Knicks are a better team than what the Patriots were.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Well, the Knicks are the Knicks are thrashing teams in the playoffs in a way that the Patriots did not. The Patriots were generally getting by.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

They didn't even look good in the games they won, and the Knicks are sweeping teams. So I I once again disrespectful, but I get where you're coming from because I come up because I'm a reasonable man. It's the same thing, same team. It's not even close, but it it's well, I get it.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

I'll well, I'll ask you this because this has been asked of me here on on the network recently. Do you especially as because how many times did I have to try and defend it last year when it was the Patriots? So I will now ask you about the Knicks. Do do you even do you care about Path Talk? Is Path Talk a thing? Is it annoying to you? Like, do you give a shit? Like it all. So the games are the games, the schedule is a schedule, like easy road, hard road, who gives a shit? Just hang a banner.

SPEAKER_04 41:36

Uh yeah, you just gotta show up in the finals because if you beat if you beat OKC or the Spurs, it doesn't matter. It's the same thing. If the Patriots beat the Seahawks, then nothing quite literally, nothing matters. So even if it was closer, um, it would have been like, okay, they deserve to be there at least. So like you would hope the Knicks at least make it a series, but I I in my world, I don't see a world where like people should be surprised if it's like a six or seven game series and even the Knicks winning. I don't think that's like a crazy thing. They're really good. They're good, they're a good team.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked by that. Uh I I would be a little surprised, but it wouldn't be shocking to me if the Knicks, if the Knicks won uh against especially against the Spurs, because what do they play three times? I I did a show earlier, somebody was saying they won two out of the three against the Spurs, which would have included that uh whatever that cup game that they do early in the season. Still, though, winning two out of three against the Spurs is is is telling you something. And honestly, this Knicks team right now, everybody looks fresh. Like for some reason, when I look at OG Ananobi specifically, he looks like he's like five years younger than when I was watching him earlier in the season and in last year. Like they've got a spring, they've got a spring in their step. They they look really, really good.

SPEAKER_04 42:50

Yeah, like everybody too. Bench looks incredible as well. Well, like Shamit can't miss a shot, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Which can we give some credit to Mike Brown for not running his guys into the ground the way Tibbs did? Because it's large, it's largely the same roster, at least in terms of the most important players, and honestly are very different.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

I'm worried about game one because the what almost happened against the Cavs could happen for not playing for fucking 12 days.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

Like yeah, I'll take all however long it is. I'll take all the rest, though. They're gonna be whichever emerges.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

You need it, it's just like when you're that hot, man, it sucks to just yeah, stop playing, you know. That's true. They're still in the gym, they're still taking shots. Yeah, it ain't the same. It ain't the same.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Thorb, how did you experience Lin Sanity? Because you would have been what seven, six, six years old when Jeremy Lynn was having that run. Like, was that cool for you? Or was it just like they're not gonna win, so it's not that cool?

SPEAKER_04 43:46

Yeah, it's not that cool for me. But like it was it was awesome at the time, though, because and I think people that don't even watch basketball knew exactly what was going on with Lin. That's the difference. Like, so the people who don't care about basketball aren't tuning in for the Knicks finals, and that's why what you were saying about Like this is a question for a non-Knicks fan. Yeah. But um, yeah, because everyone in in the world knew about the Lynn Sanity stuff, so which we it was it was awesome, but like you know, it didn't do anything for us besides like a really cool time period.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

But uh did you think he was going to be a staple on your team with Carmelo when it was happening? Like, were you like looking forward to oh Jeremy Lynn's good? The Knicks are gonna be good and exciting when Carmelo comes back from an I guess Amari Stademai was on that team as well.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

Not really, nothing seemed real at that time, but so I don't know. Also, also, I mean, shit, that that was so long ago.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

That was crazy long ago. Where does this Knicks team this year rank for you among all-time Knicks teams? I mean, to I I would think there are only four others in the conversation, right? It's two teams that won in the 70s, and it's two teams that made it to the NBA finals in the 90s. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 45:00

I there's a lot of recency bias with that because I love this team so much, man. I I love them so much. It's just oh yeah, I don't even want to talk about it. I don't even want to talk about it. It's like um I don't know. It's just they're so fun to watch, and the effort, the effort, like the the effort level between like us and the calves was like laughable. Yeah, like it's the way like Mikhail and Josh Hart play defense is just so awesome. I like especially Josh, Josh Hart is like the man. Like, actually, the only jersey I have is Josh Hart because I love him so like well mostly because he also hopped in my video one time, yeah. That was cool. Um, yeah, and he's because he's quite literally the man, and he just he's exactly the guy you you hate on the other team, and you absolutely love if he's on your team because he tries so goddamn hard.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

I'd put I'd put Mikhail Bridges in that category as well. Like, I I'm never really excited to watch Mikhail Bridges, but when I really think about it, if he was on my team, he'd probably be one of my favorite players because he just kind of does everything, he hypes he hypes the whole team up. I I think he's he's great.

SPEAKER_04 46:07

I said this the other night. Does does McKeah doesn't Mikhail Bridges look like a guy who's going to look exactly like that for the next 38 years? Like he'll never age a day in his life. Like, look at his face next time he's playing. He just he just looks like that to me. But um, yeah, he also has like the nastiest step, like step back jumper mid-range. I've like, I I just basically say it's in when it leaves his hand if it's from a certain spot.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

It's such an ugly shot, though. But you're right, from like 15-16 feet from the baseline, it looks like it's going in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:39

Every time, yeah. It's uh dude, he's shooting I think he's shooting like 70 something percent in the in like that this current run in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

Stifler in the chats says if the Knicks win on drinking bleach. Now, he is, of course, a Boston fan, but I am curious. So there's just there seems to be something different about this Knicks team, and I don't even mean the fact that they're fresher and the way that they play, I mean the way they carry themselves. Like last year, there was the whole thing they beat the Celtics, they get to the conference finals, ultimately lost to the Pacers, but they get to the conference finals, so after eight wins, eight still to go, City's already celebrating like it won a title, right? Like you're already you're hanging fake banners, you're literally renaming street signs or you know, around the garden and Times Square. And it was like, oh my god, this year they go out, they win the NBA Cup. Now, I don't think the NBA cup's a big deal, but they win it. It's not, and they don't put up a banner, which you know, famously, of course, you know, we you know, like we we saw that already in you know a couple of years ago. Like the uh who the hell was it? It wasn't the Lakers, it wasn't the Lakers. Was it was was the did Milwaukee win one? It was well, it was either the Lakers or the or the Bucks because it's only been around a few years, but one of these teams, whoever it was, hangs a banner up into the rafters, and then and the Knicks did not do that to their credit, like a team that looks for reasons to hang banners, like fucking Billy Joel or whoever's got a banner in Madison Square Garden, they didn't hang a banner for this. They get through the conference finals or Eastern Conference Finals, get back to that same point, then they get through the conference finals, they're going to the NBA finals, they got nothing but time on their hands right right now, pardon me. And what they're not going around is is just you know, like, yeah, Brunson and those guys, they got their podcast. That's fine. I don't care about that. Nobody's going around and and like patting themselves on the back, and oh my god, we've done it, kind of in the way that they sort of did last year. What does it? I guess I'm curious as a fam, like, does it just feel different to you, not just on the floor, but the overall energy around the team?

SPEAKER_04 48:59

Yeah, it's weird. Uh, it's uh everything everything feels different. I don't know because well, it's also odd because I didn't really think they could do it this year just from watching them like in the regular season. I didn't think it was they had enough, like they just weren't playing well enough, and then to do what they're doing now is like basically what you expected them to do, but they just kind of never would, and now everything's clicking at the exact same time, so everything everything feels different. That's why like I'm not too like hung up on the whole like the West is just gonna beat the shit out of them. Like, I I don't think you can I mean, of course it could happen, but like it this does not look like a team you can beat the shit out of right now, it just doesn't. And like when you have Brunson, and I think like Brunson, as far as like leading the team, and you and when we know we're down, you can just give him the rock and just let him cook is just it's a fun thing. Like that first game against the Cavs was some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. And just to know you have that in you too, if you're down 25 and you're not out of it, it's uh yeah, everything feels different, basically, to answer your question.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

They can hit you from a lot of fronts on offense. Yeah, I mean, Cat can have the big game, Brunson's usually gonna have the big game. Mikhail Bridges, OG Ananobi from inside and outside can hurt you. Like, there's and people sleep sleep.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Mitch Robinson's a fucking dog, man. He's a he is a dog. Like, he's so helpful. When I mean, granted, if you you know, when you get in the hack of Mitch and he's gonna go one for six from the line, but um, besides that, God, I love that guy. He's just he's just like what the Knicks are right now. He just you you you can't get a board over him, like ah God, I love it, man. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Landry Shamit.

SPEAKER_04 50:41

And it's the the bench is huge, too, man. Dude, Shamut's going nuts. McBride, McBride's great right now. Uh, it it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

You know, I think of guys like Landry Shammut. There's other examples of this too. I don't I don't know if it's on San Antonio or maybe even on the Knicks, where some of these guys were on like really bad teams, like CJ McCollum with the Atlanta Hawks, different context, but he was with the Wizards. Landry Shamut was with the Wizards, I think, for a couple of years. Like, imagine being with the Wizards. And, you know, I've been to games, and it's I'm not breaking any news. Like, there's no energy in in that arena. There, like the the only energy that's in that arena, and maybe next year it'll be different, but the only energy is when it's like the uh brickin' for chicken Chick-fil-A thing, and somebody misses the front end of the free throw. That's when you'll you'll hear them like get really loud. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? The brickin' for chicken?

SPEAKER_04 51:27

Well, yeah, you explained it, and then we had a whole Zion dialogue where Zion missed it on purpose so he can get chicken sandwiches. Yeah, yeah, we got it.

SPEAKER_00 51:34

Okay, good. I'm glad to the point is that's what that's the only time it gets loud. So Landry Shamut goes from that being a backup there to like all of a sudden being like in the mecca of basketball and super important playoff games. It's just it must be like he that guy's gotta be so fired up, and it granted he played on other teams as well, but he's got to be so fired up to have this opportunity because if you don't get traded, you know, you're still on the wizards, and which is why I said it was weird, like and it it feels everything feels there.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

It doesn't look like even guys like him are like phased by the moment either. I mean, someone just said in the chat, I'm pretty sure I think he shot 89 from three. Um yeah, I I don't know. Like, even like when the backups come in, they're ready to roll and they're not afraid to shoot either, which is great. Um, which is what you want to see out of those guys.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

Is it true that Julian? I assume he's talking about Julian Champagne, got cut by the Sixers for Mac McClung to compete in the dunk contest, because that's wild, because he's a massive contributor for San Antonio, and his brother's pretty good over on the Wizards as well.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

That's crazy. I don't know if the story's true, but that'd be kind of incredible. More than kind of.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

I assume he's not making up.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Oh, Clay Caleb Carter chat. I'm a big fan. Yeah, good good luck tonight. I got fever money line. That's a nice plus money banger, Caitlin. Don't get too many assists, though.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

Oh, really? You both have WNBA bets. Hey, yeah, we had we had a guy on the the uh the early ed show that I do uh come in with uh two WNBA bets and they both hit, which was kind of cool. WNBA is still a soft mark soft dish market, correct?

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Uh not nearly as soft as it was a couple years ago. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. They're on to us, yeah. A couple years a couple years ago, like you know, because I I know some people that are very good at betting WNBA, and you know, they've got their discords or whatever, and they would give out plays, and the line would be stale, it would just stay for you know hours in some cases, and then now they'll give out a play, and whatever book you're using, it's locked in seconds, if you don't get and then and then it's moving, if not the line entirely, at least the juice, you know. So it's it's wild. Yeah, people are it's still not you know NFL, NBA, that kind of thing, but it's it's it's picked up steam, no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

For those listening to the podcast, thank you. Follow the podcast, please. Uh no plays off on Spotify or Apple. But Alex has entered the chat, our producer, of course, who Adam calls the intern. I have a six-legg WNBA parlay tonight. What I find funny about this, well, A is that you have a six-leg WNBA parlay, but B, we'll probably get a text later from Alex saying, Oh man, I was so close, I can't believe it. And it'll but it'll be like missing by three legs.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:24

Yeah, but all the three legs are real close. Yeah, I there were three legs on a six-man parlay that missed by one. Yeah, that's not close, though. It's not close, not even a little close, not even a little bit close.

SPEAKER_04 54:37

No, yeah, it's it's close to being close, though. It's close to being close.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Close to being close. Great way to put it. Close to Jason. Yeah, we had a uh we we gave out a uh six legger last night on on one of the shows, Beth Spresso, 20 to 1 or 19 to 1, something like that. And there would have been one carryover leg today, which was Spurs money line. The other five, four of them got in. One of them, it wasn't close. It it was a loser. But V, our guy V saws, he got greedy. He had two MLB player props. One was total bases, the other was HRR. One smashed, the other one, dude, went hitless. But it, you know, I those those baseball player props, man, those are tough. Yeah. Take over and embied Mac Max Muncie, count your days.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

So obviously, someone who tailed right along with us, I had a hit to run RBI bet the other day under one and a half, and then I checked just to see how it's doing. He had 11. That's insanity. I don't even remember who it was. Wasn't happy.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

I did hit a six-legger uh uh a couple days ago, but it was only for five bucks, but it was like 40 something to one. Uh I love doing that, like just putting five bucks down on like whatever the night games are. Usually they'll start at like 9 40 or 10 10. And I'll take the three games. I'm not even looking at the props, it's it's so like basic. I'll take like uh a couple of money line parlays, a couple of totals, and maybe like one player prop. And actually, hit one of those just a couple nights ago. It's fun. And if you lose, what's the consequence? Five bucks. Who cares? Who cares? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

Well, you always lose and you do that every day, and then you've lost a lot of money over the course of a year.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

Trying to have fun of that. Yeah, how about you relax, Adam? Yeah, hey. This is good. Uh, we only have a couple minutes, so we don't really have time to talk about this, but I do want to bring it up. Uh, Sham Sharania, the NBA's board of governors, has passed the new anti-tanking rules that include expanding the draft lottery from 14 to 16 teams, a relegation zone where the bottom three teams get penalized with lessened chances for the number one pick and flattened odds. Goes on to say the NBA makes an unprecedented move in American Pro Sports Leagues by punishing the very worst teams in the draft lottery and creating a new system incentivized winning. Uh after months of meetings and conversations and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, it's a new 3-2-1 lottery starting with the next draft lasting through at least 2029. And I saw this from Legion Hoops. There's now a 71% chance that the NBA's number one pick falls to a sixth place to 12th place team. Only a 29% chance it falls to a bottom five team.

SPEAKER_03 57:36

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

Adam Silver's NBA is going out of its way now, as promised, as threatened. Don't tank, you will not be rewarded for it. Yeah, that's a big problem.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

That's a big problem, but but finding floppers would be the next thing on the agenda. Like, it doesn't have to be during the game. I understand it'll slow the game down and all that stuff. Finding floppers, get scarlet lettering them because they've got so many fines, having social media take care of that by just making fun of the people that are constantly getting it. We we gotta do that. We absolutely have to do that. We do again. If you want to assess it in the middle of the game, that's great, but I don't think you can do that because it takes too much time. Start finding them and start scarlet lettering them, and we can fix that problem too.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

I was hyped when he said relegation. I thought it was gonna be like a whole soccer ordeal. Oh, that's right. That would have been amazing, dude. I've been waiting for the dolphins to get reg uh relegated for so fucking long, dude.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

I like give me give me a hundred loss baseball team getting sent to triple A. That would be incredible. Be awesome, man. Bring it back. Yeah, it's not gonna happen, but I'd love to see it. All right, well, people are hanging out below. Shags and SPJ, Sook. There's stuff coming up after us, guys. Even Roman jumping in. That's right. And then in an hour, I'm gonna come on back with Danny Burke, gonna get off the flop. That's right, a little baseball. Ooh. Ooh. Jerk. Are we done with me?

SPEAKER_00 59:14

Homework for everybody. Go watch 38 at the garden and report back next Thursday at four o'clock in the chat.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

Crazy talents is when are you guys ripping cards again? Great question.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Oh, Thorb's moving in a few days.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

We forgot to cover C, yeah. Literal days at this point, days literal days.

SPEAKER_04 59:32

If I start packing, yeah, you should pack. You've started. I swear to god, I have not.

SPEAKER_00 59:38

Don't bring everything you have, bring everything you need, and you don't need that much. There, you just I just took care of like two-thirds of the packing for you. That's pretty good. You're welcome. That's good advice. You're very old and wise. Stop it. I mean, stop it.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

Just leave a lot of your shit behind. I'm sure the next tenant will really enjoy that.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

Ooh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

All right. Well, we should go. Thanks to Biz. Thanks to all of you. As Sia always likes to remind you, and he should great review, subscribe to the podcast. No plays off. I have I have a hat that even looks red now with this nice new camera.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:11

Goodwill can pick up your stuff. Just leave it behind. You don't need it. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

I'm a charitable guy, aren't I?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Yeah. You don't need all those clothes either. All kinds of different things you don't need. Minimalism, no paper towels. See where I'm going with this? You're well.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:26

No, I'm I'm I'm taking a bunch of paper towels up there. Definitely pack paper towel.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:31

Go Spurs. Go Spurs. Up next.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Not really.