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No Plays Off Episode 25

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Adam Kaufman, Thorb, and Sia Nejad on the Betting News Network, "No Plays Off," chat about Thorb's move to Florida, anything and everything about the 2026 NBA Finals, their favorite books, the 2026 FIFA World Cup & so much more!

SPEAKER_03

We're back. No plays off returns here on BNN. And we've even got you for a couple, I think, this week. I think we're doing another one tomorrow. I don't know. We'll figure that out as the show moves along. But he's relate relocated to Miami. You've seen his stuff all over social media, the collabs with Pullwax. And of course, you know, each of us, Thorb, Adam, C will be along shortly. We uh we troll in our our own way, right? I mean, Thorb here shows up in Nick's colors out of excitement for his team. Me, I had to put Celtics banners behind me just to remind Thorb here what a real franchise looks like. But this year, bud, it's all about you right now. A miraculous 29 point comeback, the biggest comeback in NBA Finals history to go up 3-1 at the Garden on San Antonio. Normally, this is where I would talk even longer and I would ask you all sorts of questions. I'm just gonna get out of the way. I'm gonna say Thorb, Nick's floor's yours.

SPEAKER_02

What the hell was that, huh? That was something. That was something, huh? The amount of depression that seeped into my soul at halftime was heavy. It was real heavy. I had a phone call with this guy I was uploading a song with, and like we're going through the cover art making that, and he's like, Why are you so fucking mad? And it was just at halftime, I was just a shell of myself, and then I never never for a single second. I mean, until it became a four-point game, I thought there was no absolutely no fucking chance.

SPEAKER_03

And then so you weren't one of those that invested in New York at like plus 2200 on the money line.

SPEAKER_02

No, I gave up uh uh long before that. Um, yeah, it was I I got back in when they're I like added more when they were down like 15 and like the first, but uh I didn't I didn't do the halftime thing because I was just I was defeated by then. I wasn't thinking about money, I wasn't thinking about anything. I was just I was lost in this world. And I don't I don't understand how I don't know, it's just our time, man. It's just our time.

SPEAKER_03

It feels a little like team of destiny stuff, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because nothing else makes sense because that was just that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. And it's just I don't know. I've never seen a team, a single team of mine in any sport win a win anything in life. Um, so this is this is special. This is special time for me. I I might I don't know, I might do some crazy thing. I um I s I was laying on the ground for the last shot. Why? I don't know. It just felt right uh for me to be on the ground. And when watching or or not even facing the TV? I was watching, uh like peeking above. Um, and then when we stopped him, I got up just with no just with no accord of like anything around me, just sprinted directly into the table. I just have this mock tail. I don't have a living room table yet. I just sprint fully into this table. Everyone's drinks on the table, a bottle of vodka's on the table, everything goes everywhere, and I didn't care one bit. I don't even know I didn't hurt myself. I fell flat just on my face, it was bad. Um, but boy, was it worth it. It was I don't know. This is this is just a lovely time, man. It's a lovely time. How many people were you with watching the game? I was only with two, so I went in the I went in the pup I went in public for game two and three, and I said I'm never doing that again. I can't I can't do that. I can't be in public. I it's why was I at a Hooters for game two? Not really sure, but that's where I was. And I'm a psychopath, just pacing around the hooters, just like everyone's asking if I'm okay. I was not. Um, it's I can't be in public anymore. It's just because especially if I hear like one one guy just cheering every time the Spurs score, I'm gonna lose it. I can't do it. So I had a couple people over. I said if you root for the Spurs, you can't come. Um, it's that type of thing. I need no negative energy, I need good vibes around me, you know what I mean? And it worked out lovely. I now that I can't I I can't wear any Knicks gear because every time I do they go down by 25. I have to take it off, and then that's when they start coming back. So now I can wear it today happily and proud.

SPEAKER_03

So, does that mean when game five rolls around coming up? You there's no Knicks gear to start the game, you're just gonna skip the 25-point first quarter deficit.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, man. Because like I want to, I feel like I have to, and then every time I do, they go down by 20. And it's just I I no, I can't I can't do it, but then that's the weirder part about being in public. I can't wear Knicks gear out there, so I'm just some fucking lunatic in regular street clothes, just losing my mind, and that's just it's a weird look for me. I don't like it, and I'm gonna stay at home. I'm gonna stay at home. I think you've made the right choice. Thanks, man. Yeah, I can't be running in a table.

SPEAKER_03

You want to be able to hear it too, right? Like, you don't want to be at a bar and the volume's down. Like, you want to experience what's going on. You want you want to hear your guy Mike Breen shouting bang. I know. I I shout it for him enough.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but you would be surprised, dude. The Hooters, man, volume level, loud, loud every TV. Well, it's just like now when you're in the finals, every TV is just a final because no, there's nothing else going on, and it's usually blasting. So it's that it's not even that for me. It's just being around other human beings, is what I don't like. You know what I mean? Second, a big three that rips my heart out by like the sell, and I hear a guy cheering. I want to kill that guy, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03

You turn into one of those Knicks fans that are on the street outside of MFG.

SPEAKER_02

All right, first of all, fuck those guys. I hate those guys, yeah. They're they're they're ruining, they're ruining such a good moment by like. You guys a bad name. Yeah, yeah. If you are one of those people, stop that, please. Just be nice to these people, just let them go home. Just let them go home. Talk your shit, though. Don't but just let them go home.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, don't need to rip the jersey literally off their bodies. They're a bunch of or get up in there with a lighter threatening to set somebody's hair on fire. Yeah, that was interesting. Or just outright pummeling a dude to the ground. Like that's classy, that's fun.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, that's the worst, is the worst type of people. Um, I if I'm a Spurs fan, why why are you even going? Don't go, don't go.

SPEAKER_03

Or if you're going, take the jersey off before you leave. Yeah, yeah, do something. Don't bring that out on the street. Yeah, no, fuck that thing under your shirt.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, bad plan. Yeah, but uh fuck those people, man. Those people suck.

SPEAKER_03

If that game played out the way it was supposed to play out, because again, biggest comeback in NBA finals history. That's it, it's cooked. Two two, best of three going back to San Antonio, it's over. We're done.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely done. Because the the momentum of that would have been drastic. And that that's um, yes, this has been some of the worst officiating I've like ever seen in my entire life. But like, and and my problem, I'm not a blame the ref guy for like anything, but which I actually thought the worst officiating of maybe all time was game two, but we ended up winning, so it wasn't talked about that much. Um, it's the momentum switches of like when that call, that egregious fucking call at like the worst time, it just changes momentums of games. Like that momentum's such a big thing in series like this, so that that's usually my problem with that. And the momentum that we would have lost, losing by 38 at home for the second time. Uh that that we were at home, it would have been really rough to come back, and I would have lost all hope. As a Knicks fan, do you want this thing over with? End it now, end it now, end it now, get it over with. I don't want to watch another game. Just get just get it, just do it now. Do it now.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so there's no see us here. There's no part. This, I'm glad you're here for this. Actually, this is this is human emotion type question. There's no part of you, Thorb, even the slightest little part that wants San Antonio to get take game five so you can win it at the garden.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck no, absolutely end that right now. Get it uh get it done. I'm terrified. Well, I'm I'm not terrified now. The second they win game five, I'm freaking out again. Freaking out again.

SPEAKER_04

Uh okay, a few things real quick. Sorry, I'm welcome. Good to see you. Beast McNeese in here says, Hey Adam, when does Boston play? Which is which is funny for two reasons. I'm not sure which reason reason he's using there. Oh, the background, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah, there, there you go.

SPEAKER_04

I just noticed that. Um, the other thing I was going to say was how we talked about how horrible New York fans are. Um, Madison Square Garden. Okay, good. Uh, and the other thing that I think is really important is Adam looks particularly handsome today. He clearly got a haircut, but I've seen Adam with a haircut before, and he doesn't look this handsome. I don't know if it's like it's sunny out, he's getting sun. Like, what's happening here?

SPEAKER_03

Well, he's got a better camera, uh, it looks like maybe it's a much better camera now, too. Yeah, there is that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he's not filming on an iPhone 10 anymore.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but like that's been the case for like a couple of episodes. He hasn't, he does, he doesn't look like this two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02

Thanks, guys. Maybe it's uh it's a it's the haircut camera combo. Have we seen that yet? I'm sorry, the what the what now? We we might not have seen the haircut new camera combo yet. That's exactly that's a good question.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's possible. It's possible we haven't. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, that's big. So you well, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say the there are a few things related to the series. Um, the Boston fan in me obviously hates all things New York, not like hatred city, but like I'm certainly not rooting for the Knicks. Plus, I'm invested in the Spurs, and I you know, I I want San Antonio to win. I've I've been very vocal about that. But what I will say, Thorb, and see uh, I mean you're not a Knicks fan either, but I'm curious how you feel. This is a really, really freaking likable team. Like, if you just team, yeah, if you remove the laundry and it's just a bunch of dudes on the floor, like these guys are uh it's hard to root against Brunson and Anobi, you know, like whatever with cat, but like okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04

So so hold on, real quick. Take take the New York out of it because people are gonna have their New York biases, right? Well, like negative or positive. Yeah, think of and let's just like like the starting five, like you were about to list them off, but like you could even go down to like you know, six, seven, eighth man. But let's just kind of like consider this from a starting five standpoint. Yeah, can you think of a more likable starting five than the New York Knicks in the NBA?

SPEAKER_03

It's tough, it's super tough. I mean, like the the Spurs are up there. I mean, the Spurs are an incredibly likable team. Like, I think you have likable teams on both sides of this thing. I used to like them. That's true. Yeah, you I mean, you can't for a couple weeks. I understand that.

SPEAKER_02

But I hate Wemby more than any player on earth currently.

SPEAKER_03

I just can't believe how consistently shell-shocked this dude has looked in the series. He doesn't he doesn't look ready, and like for all the I've I've been texting like crazy about this with a variety of people throughout the day, but for all of the reaction, and I'm right there with everyone about De'Aaron Fox going up for that layup or dunk, getting blocked by Ananobi and not pulling it out and getting fouled and killing some more clock going to line all that. Like, I thought that was a bone-headed play. I agree with anyone that feels that way. But for all of the reaction to that, the thing that I can't get over, the thing that I can't stop thinking about is Wemby missing those two late free throws. That was bad. Look on his face when he did. Yeah, he just he just he didn't like his time's coming. Man, he's 22, he's gonna get his. There'll be banners, there'll be trophies, there'll be awards, all of it. I'm not sitting here condemning Wemby, but here in this moment, he didn't look ready.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, but look, can we go back to De'Aaron Fox real quick? Because he's actually lucky, he's lucky that most people, not everybody, because we have social media and we see all the clips and stuff, that most people are gonna remember that De'Aaron Fox had a bad game because of that quote decision to go for the layup, which actually to me is at least slightly understandable because he thought he was so far ahead of OG and Adobe. And frankly, if he pulls it back out, he's got the baseline as a defender, he might get trapped and either have to call a timeout or turn the ball. Like, there are things in that two seconds of time that I can understand. Hey, let me just go for the layup. I think I'm in it clear. But so take that out of it. Oh my gosh, how how bad was this dude in the second half? Every pass was lazy or just like just not like not even close to the target. He was taking bad shots.

SPEAKER_03

Of all of his bad second half decisions and plays.

SPEAKER_02

He actually had a really good first half, too, which is funny.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody did.

SPEAKER_02

He didn't nobody missed, nobody missed. Yeah. Um I'm I I might look for somewhere in this new place to build an OG Ananobi statue. Of which play, the block or the tip in the tip, the tip, the tip is the yeah, the block's ridiculous too. First of all, I I will say this right now. That was the worst fucking shot I've ever seen. The Brunson that was horrific. And like now, the argument of like people after the game were saying, like, oh, you know, you shoot it early just in case, like a tip-in situation like that. It was he was double covered and from deep. That was a horrible shot. And OG was wide open to his left. It was a horrible shot, and yes, it worked because OG is an absolute fucking dog.

SPEAKER_03

But that was another fight, by the way. If you watch the film, Fox was guarding Ananobi, and then he went to double cover Brunson, and Ananobi got open and had that lane, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, what if and he was wide open to to like to Thorub's point. He was he was definitely wide open.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Ananobi the finals MVP for you. I know he won't win it, it'll be Brunson, but to you is Ananobi the finals MVP?

SPEAKER_04

Plus 250 right now at some books, plus 200 at others. Well, I mean, he's definitely the finals MVP in my book. The quest, like, so I think if you're a voter, you have to ask yourself like, take the names away from the people, like who was actually the most important player? Like, I understand why you'd give it to Wemby or Jalen Brunson if they win, but like it's gotta be OG Ananobi. Way more efficient, spark plug both on offense and defense. Brunson was somewhat efficient last game, but it hasn't been great for him.

SPEAKER_02

No, Brunson has he's not having a good series, like at all. I like he he has his classic fourth quarter moments, but um, other than that, it's it's been very he's missing a lot of shots he typically makes. Um I I mean it all depends on like what happens next game, and hopefully not the next two games, but um or three Spurs by ten.

SPEAKER_04

Spurs by ten in game five, maybe eleven.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I see it. Shut your mouth.

SPEAKER_04

All right, good news, you'll probably win game six.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. No, this no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

Beast McNeese is not from Florida, he's not from South Florida, he doesn't know. He says, Thorb, you should go live from Hooters for game five. Now, now that Thorb is in South Florida, he's gonna learn real quick. Most people don't go to Hooters anymore, they go to Twin Peaks, and there's a lot of Twin Peaks locations in Pembroke Pines, in Davy, uh near Fort Lauderdale in that Pompano area. So that's probably if he was going to go to that type of establishment, it would probably be Twin Peaks. Well, you missed the uh house.

SPEAKER_02

No, yeah, but uh you missed the initial conversation me and Adam had. I was at Hooters for game two, and I was at Twin Peaks for game three.

SPEAKER_04

Game two to game three, he had a couple days in between and he learned Twin Peaks is probably the play.

SPEAKER_02

Now Hooters was way better because the Knicks won, and um, I was able to make a good Hooters, and the criteria is not uh the criteria most people go on. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Um, but yeah, as I told Adam, I will never be leaving in public again for another one of these games. I can't take it, I can't be around people, and I will be watching it right here.

SPEAKER_04

That's the thing. I I watch like commanders are the team I root for the most uh in terms of like intensity, and I can't watch it around other people. No way, like I just won't do it, it's just not a thing.

SPEAKER_02

No, uh, because like game game two, game three. Like, I just got here, I want to hang out with the people here. They're like, Let's go watch the game or whatever. I was like, things aren't that real yet, you know. Game two, game three. Uh I you know, I'm still losing my absolute fucking mind, but it's it's fine. But yeah, once it came to game four, and like, in my opinion, an absolute must-win game, there's no way I was leaving, there's no way.

SPEAKER_03

I guess though, the that first half, which I realize doesn't matter anymore, you know, they came back from what they came back from, but watching that thing on TV, knowing the get-in price of six, seven, eight, nine thousand dollars at least, and all and all of the celebrities, like I mean, just a laundry list of celebrities in attendance for this thing. In the first NBA finals that Madison Square Garden has been able to host in more than a quarter century, chasing a first win more than a half century, after losing game three. Man, like I just the Schaden Freud of wanting New York to lose in that fashion at home with this thing, like you said, Thorb, feeling like, well, it's over now, it's a best of three. San Antonio's got home court again. Like, this thing is done. That to me was so enjoyable to watch until it wasn't. Yeah, I hate you for that. Instead, they get instead they get the best game in NBA finals history.

SPEAKER_04

I I, yeah, exactly. I was so I don't have like a bet, like I don't really have a dog in the fight. I didn't bet that game, but I clearly I could tell I wanted the Spurs to win. Sorry, Thorb. I really wanted the Spurs to win game four. And I found myself after the game, like almost feeling sad, almost in the in a way where like my team lost a finals game. And I was like, Oh, like I really am rooting for the Spurs here. It didn't occur to me, and I think part of it was I actually felt sorry for them. Like, I was like trying to empathize with it. I'm like, you like, how do you go to sleep at night if you're Mitchell Johnson or if you're anybody else on this team? How do you sleep? That's an impossible loss. You have to try to lose that game.

SPEAKER_03

That's the thing, you know. For for Mitch Johnson, I think he's a great coach. I'm not like you know, I've seen people like you gotta fire him. Like, let's get rid of it. I I like Mitch Johnson, but yeah, I mean, the way they honestly it was it was very Celtics-like, if if I'm being honest, like the number of times that I've seen the Celtics no in a bad way, like the number of times that I've seen the Celtics lose playoff games, including against your Nick's Thorb, when they're up a ton, next does all the time, and then in the second half, all of a sudden, like law of averages, the three stop falling and they don't know what the fuck to do. Yeah, and and all of a sudden it's just bad, boneheaded, dumb basketball, rushing shots early in the shot clock. There was a stat I I think Tom Havistro had it. I'd have to pull it up on on Twitter, but I think the third quarter, they took like five five shots the entire quarter from inside the three-point line, like it was just banana land approach. And yeah, I don't know at what point if you're Miss Johnson with a whole bunch of youth, including him, I guess, going through this for the first time. You just gotta hit the pause button, take a timeout, and be like, guys, like again, we're giving away an impossible lead to give away. We're up by 29 points. There's the graphic. Like, can we just take a beat, move the ball, look for good shots? Don't fire it up five, seven seconds into the shot clock. Like, just bleed clock, don't give the thing away.

SPEAKER_04

And to your points, you at least run some plays with like Wemby, like in the post where you can draw some fouls or or or something to like you know, just generate some points at the free throw line. There was just they'd get long rebounds and they would just auto like throw it up, like they were the ones chasing points. And and at a certain point, you you know, if you're the coach, and I hate criticizing coaches because I don't really know the X's and O's other than the X's and O's I just saw on that chart. It's like you you gotta you gotta start conveying a message to your team, and he just didn't he just chose not to do that. He's like, Go out there and play, boys.

SPEAKER_03

Our buddy uh David Beerman. I think he had it. I'm scrolling back on his Twitter. There was a I'll see if I can find it, but the it was outlining Wemby's like horrific second half, in which the team obviously went what 30 points the whole half, 30 points 70 plus in the first half. 70 plus again, it was just like miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss like with the occasional made free throw. It was I just yeah, the approach it because I'm like you, see you. I was I mean, I the difference being I am invested in San Antonio, but even removing that because it wasn't like you know, I'm I'm not I didn't have a mortgage payment on it or something like that. I just we're getting such an incredible Stanley Cup final. I really wanted this NBA finals to also get 2-2 to have just an and and like, yeah, we might get to game six, but it feels like it's over. I mean, if you wanted to invest in San Antonio right now, that's ballpark four to one.

SPEAKER_04

Thorb, at what point did you actually think, oh, there's a chance that this is going to be close late in the game?

SPEAKER_02

Four point game.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. So that was like with five minutes left, four minutes left. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Uh because I was in full belief there's absolutely no chance. But I did say out loud, I was like, if any team's gonna do it, it's the Knicks because they that's they do this shit. But uh still absolutely because it's the finals, I was like, there's that there's absolutely no way. But yeah, once it got to a four-point game, it felt real. It didn't feel real until then for me.

SPEAKER_04

You know, you know when I thought so I it felt real around that time to me as well. But when Josh Hart missed the bunny, I was like, Oh, like that's actually gonna be the miss that's going to prevent this comeback, right? I actually thought that I was like, they needed that basket, and it was like, How did you like what I don't even understand how he missed it because he didn't he didn't take a wrong step?

SPEAKER_03

He was just it looked like he was trying to decide whether he was gonna go for the layup or dunk, and then he just like tried to do both and missed the shot, but still for him not to get the height on his jump, like even in that with that indecision, it was just so weird to me that he couldn't like get higher to like actually like kind of dunk it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that was super weird to me.

SPEAKER_02

I fell on the ground after that. I was on the ground a lot. Yeah, it was bad.

SPEAKER_03

Uh guy SPJ Hearts press conference, you could see the agony on his face. OG legit saved his life.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he said he said he, yeah. I for he's I forgot exactly what he said, but he's like, Yeah, I I owe OG a lot.

SPEAKER_04

How many plays in sports history will we never remember? Impossible question to answer. Will we never remember because a teammate, like a minute later, saved them, whether it's in basketball or any other sport? Like, nobody's gonna remember the Josh Hart play tomorrow. Like, literally, nobody will remember it. But if the Spurs ended up winning that game and basically the lead didn't change hands or it only changed hands because the Spurs took the lead or whatever after the Josh Hart bunny, like everybody would probably be like, Man, Josh Hart kind of lost that game for us. We had it for a second. It's wild.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, you'll you you won't be able to ever think of those things, but that happens very often, very often all the time.

SPEAKER_04

Speaking of this, sir, real I'm total subject change. Do you guys have an appreciation for how many? I'm talking NFL specifically here. How many NFL players that are like complete badasses that we literally have completely forgotten because they had a devastating injury and were out of the league almost immediately?

SPEAKER_03

You sound like you bring that up with an example in mind.

SPEAKER_04

I I don't. I don't. It's just the the whole thing about forgetting things in sports. There are so many, like the hot tight end comes out and like gets injured in the preseason or has one good year, running back has one good year, and then all the who was the running back for was it uh Houston, who like was a sixth or seventh round pick like three years ago. He was awesome. Somebody in the chat's gonna be able to get this for us. Had a great year, and I don't even think he's on on a roster anymore. It happens all the time. Sorry, subject change.

SPEAKER_02

How long ago? Yeah, three years ago, like literally Pierce. No, yeah, it is Damian Pierce. Okay, it is Damian Pierce. Isn't he still around?

SPEAKER_04

Or he's still around, but he's like a fourth string, he's like struggling.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's not the same guy Jacksonville or something.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Right. What a poll. I still got it.

SPEAKER_04

That was that was pretty great, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, that was nice. I was about to start pro football referencing over here. Uh TakeOver NB did ask before, by the way. Am I dumb thinking the Spurs can still win this? And I would say the answer that the answer to that question is no. And I thought a buddy of mine put this really well. I I asked him earlier in the series, I think it was before game three. I said, Who do you think wins this game? And he said, Listen, you don't need to ask me that for any game again in this series, because my answer is always going to be the Spurs for a single game. Obviously, at this point in time, I think the Knicks are gonna win the series, they're up to well, blah blah blah. But singular game talent versus talent, I'm always going to say San Antonio. So, yeah, top to bottom, the Spurs absolutely are capable of winning the next three games. But do I believe it's gonna happen? No.

SPEAKER_04

Well, this is how I would contextualize it. They have two games at home and one game away from home. If you think they are going to win their games at home, which is an extremely fair assumption, then really all you're at, and I'm not saying that, like, listen, it's easy for me to just say that, but I but I I think they're favored by five and a half for a reason, and I think that's what would happen in game seven. They probably it wouldn't be five and a half, it'd probably be four and a half, whatever. If you think they can win on the road, then one game on the road, then you think they're probably still in this thing. And oh, by the way, just yesterday they were up 29 on the road. I think they can win on the road.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, if uh if anyone is a big fan of uh script writers, uh I it basically what's gonna happen is you know, the Knicks are gonna lose this game and then win their first final in a bajillion years at home because that just makes the most sense.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, the NBA script writers would want the Knicks to win at all.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, Ben Ben Stiller's out there filming a documentary on the sidelines on his phone anyway.

SPEAKER_02

I'll tell you what, the the script writers want the Spurs to win real bad, I think. Did you watch game two? It's fucking ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03

How many of that CVS receipts worth of celebrities that have been at MSG the last couple of games are gonna be in San Antonio for game five? You know that Ben Stiller's gonna be there, you know that Timothy Chalamet is gonna be there, you know that Spike Lee's gonna be there. Yep, and I will say, you know, that Fat Joe is gonna be there, but but after that, are we are like Seinfeld, Larry David, you know, Tracy Morgan, Adam Sandler? Well, who's gonna be there?

SPEAKER_04

Who all four, all four of them? All four of them will be there, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because they might win it all. Well, that's that's what I'm saying. Like, how many Knicks fans, because these guys were not at the first two games in San Antonio. How many Knicks fans now with a closeout opportunity are gonna be dedicated enough to be there in San Antonio? Obviously, they have the means. This is not a financial question, this is a taking time out of your day question.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone that can will because because of the situation. Uh you know, I don't I don't need a lot in my life, but I think of what if I was really rich, man, that's like the cool part. That'd be like the one thing that I I want is to be able to go to those games and sit courtside, you know what I mean. Other than that, like being rich is all right, you know, that's it's all right, but like that's that's the cool shit. You get to go courtside for your favorite team in the finals, like that's that shit.

SPEAKER_04

That's true. Like the cool things of like about being rich, like for me, it wouldn't be like having a boat or flying private or whatever. Like, I I granted that's cool, yeah. But it's that stuff. That's being able to be like, I'm going to that game on the other side of the country and I'm gonna sit on the court. That's cool.

SPEAKER_03

So you're more this is actually an interesting question. I I've I've had this conversation with like somebody asked me this I don't know years ago, but I've always thought about it. Are you more of a an experiential spender, if you will, or something more material? So I I guess like if what we're talking about is like you've got all the money in the world, so like you can be both, it doesn't matter. But let's let's say lives that we live right now. You've got I don't know, twenty thousand dollars. Are you putting that toward a car you really want? Or are you going on just the nicest vacation with your family?

SPEAKER_04

It depends. How much do I what's my baseline of stuff that I already have? Go ahead, Thorpe.

SPEAKER_02

Oh well, I would say I'm doing neither. Um, but I got rent to pay. I yeah, I don't consider myself that like because I also hate going to games, but like this is different. Like this is just a totally different experience. But because I I I I hate going to really any sporting event. I don't know why. I would just always rather watch it on TV. Um, but in that instance, yeah, I'm never buying a car. I would go, I would go to the Knicks game. Like, I sold my nicer car for a car that's better on gas because that's where I'm at in life. You know what I mean? I'm I'm trying to be just a responsible old person, like you, like you gentlemen, you know. Um appreciate you. Yeah, I don't know. See you, what about you?

SPEAKER_04

It it would like I I answered that like a lawyer would answer it. Like, I need more details, but just the the way the the question was asked, I'm not a big stuff guy. I don't need the new phone, I don't need the nice brand name car. I I I barely have like everywhere I've lived, I've barely had furniture. Like I just I'm such a minimalist that I I would have to you know, I would have to defer to the experience because I I'm just not somebody that like basks in the stuff part of things. I don't even like paper towels.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, or fun or or certain kinds of sponges, very dry cleaner particular, yeah. Uh SPJ experiences or stuff. That is the question that we are asking you. Uh Sniffler says stuff. Enjoy being at the next game for my 57 uh room mansion would be a bigger flex. Yeah, the I guess the what was it? Um yeah, like the so a friend of mine's a New Yorker and was he doesn't have next season tickets, but he was saying how someone he knew does, and they were having a real debate within themselves as to whether to sell their game three tickets, you know, a couple days back. And I don't know ultimately what they even decide to do. But to me, like that's such Thorb, you tell me because you're a Knicks fan, so I can't totally relate. But even as a Knicks fan, I think my mindset would be that's a complete no-brainer. I could make maybe tens of thousands of dollars on a pair of tickets for game three of the NBA finals, and then just go to game four when maybe they clinch. Like, there's nothing out of game three that you get other than just the experience of going to game three.

SPEAKER_02

I can't I can't really speak on it because I'm not in the situation, so then maybe my mind would change entirely. But in my head, I'm not going to any of them. I'm making this I'm making a shit ton of money and I'm watching them at home in a dark room. Like, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't really are chasing the the money over the stuff, the experience. I mean, but that's just that's just that's a big come up, man.

SPEAKER_02

It's a big come up.

SPEAKER_04

I the difference is so out of hand when it comes to like that specific event, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Because I think of it like this. Well, it's for it's a little different because you theoretically already have the tickets in this scenario. Imagine paying twelve thousand dollars for your favorite team to lose by 32 in the finals. I wouldn't recover from that. I this that's a big reason why I don't go to games anyway. Like, I I went to like one dolphins game two years ago, they lost 42 to nothing. I upgraded my seats, I felt like a fucking asshole. You know what I mean? I don't that's it's just that doesn't sound fun to me at all. At all. And yes, if they win, it could be the best time of your life. I don't consider myself a lucky man, so no, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03

Stifler says I was at Yankees Red Sox game seven in 2004. It's done nothing for me since. So, you know, fair context.

SPEAKER_04

Well, okay, more more info though. Stifler, did you did you go out of your way to pay extra money for that for that game seven experience, or was that something you were already you already had lined up well well beforehand? I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_03

This is where we say, like, we'll hang up and listen.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we'll hang up and listen.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

By the way, the I looked at all the teams because I just for reference looked at all the NBA teams. I don't think there's a starting five more likable than the Knicks. I would like I wanted to look for uh like a Steph Curry-led team, but Draymond Green is on that team, so you can't like can't do that. There's you know, Denver has some likable guys like Jamal Murray, some people like Aaron Gordon. Obviously, Jokic, I think is pretty likable. Yeah, very, but there's there's I don't think there's any. I I like the Miami Heat, I like Bam out of bio. Tyler Hero is kind of a tool, so I'm not really into that.

SPEAKER_02

People don't like Brunson. There's a lot of people that don't like Brunson.

SPEAKER_04

We don't know why. Why like what would they say about Brunson that they don't like?

SPEAKER_02

The flopping thing, which uh he doesn't flop as much as some other guys, yeah. Not even close, but like, no, people say he does, though. It's a thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, there, yeah, there's there's foul baiting there. I just don't think it's as severe as some other dudes across the NBC.

SPEAKER_04

Also, the flip side of Brunson is that he's so tough. A lot of the foul baiters like aren't tough like Brunson, aren't clutch like Brunson. So he can offset that by like like the the type of actual basketball player he is.

SPEAKER_02

So, I mean, it's that guy, and it feels like when he does it, he's like playing basketball, and it feels like when some other people are doing it, they're just exploiting the rules.

SPEAKER_04

That that's you mean SGA in all of Oklahoma City, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Correct, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Take over Embiid says the Pacers. Yeah, I mean, uh so I think Tyree Saliburton's like a huge tool, but I'll admit, like, he's like clearly a nice person. I like Pascal Siakum. You know, uh, who's it, Rob? No, I was thinking of Brown, who's on uh who's on the Nuggets, but that's a like Pacers are a likable team, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

They've got Zubots now.

SPEAKER_02

What's that? Oh, they've got Zubots now. Yeah, I think it's like a lot of what the Knicks are saying. Like you'll you'll see the difference between between like the interviews of like when the Spurs lost and like when the Knicks lost, and like the Spurs is all like you know, it was they gave the game away, type of stuff, and then the Knicks like just handle it like way differently. I don't know. The Spurs come across as very cocky to me, like especially Wemby. God, I hate I hate guys, I hate Wemby so much.

SPEAKER_03

This is gonna fall, this is gonna follow you.

SPEAKER_04

You're gonna is this manufactured, or do you like like what's the deal? Like, why do you hate him?

SPEAKER_02

It's not because he's just on the other side, like you're he's a little crybaby, he's a he's a crybaby, and he gets whatever he wants. And first of all, is that not egregious that that foul not getting upgraded to a flagrant after the league looked at it? I think that's absolutely ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04

With the one where he like just pushed Brunson down, yeah, just threw his head down.

SPEAKER_03

How's that not a flagrant? How many times do you think he's gonna elbow cat in the jaw, too?

SPEAKER_04

Well, that that was like pretty incidental, in my opinion, but yeah, I would I didn't mind that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it's happened multiple times now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the thing about throwing Brunson down is like where Embiid is standing relative to other players, if he's gonna push somebody, like you're almost automatically going to be at their upper part of their body, and also Brunson did have his jersey, like I don't they didn't really show that, but yeah, but like if you're that tall and you're pushing somebody, you you it's there's a good chance you're not gonna be pushing them like in the midsection that you're gonna be pushing like his head straight down to the floor. It's a common foul, in my opinion. No, that's to me. I I honestly think that's a common foul. I really do.

SPEAKER_03

No way, Adam. Uh yeah, I just I don't think you're gonna suspend that guy in the NBA. No, it wouldn't, it wouldn't have been a suspend suspension, it would have been his third. Yeah, but they're inching closer, they're not gonna do anything to even put him in jeopardy of being suspended, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because he's a he's a little crybaby golden boy, and I hate him, and I wish the words for him. One of the faces of the league at this point, isn't he one away now, though?

SPEAKER_04

Because he picked up the flagrant on Kat, did he not? Isn't he one away from getting suspended? That wasn't even a like, no, no, he doesn't get flagrants anymore. That wasn't upgraded to a flagrant. No, I thought it was okay.

SPEAKER_03

Stiffler says Colin Wemby a bitch is telling on yourself. He's eaten all the Knicks' cheap shots himself. Thorpe?

SPEAKER_02

He did he dishes out more cheap shots than fucking it. He he threw Alvarado's neck in the first game, and that wasn't called either. He literally does this all the time.

SPEAKER_04

He's Alvarado Alvarado attacking his ankles was like so lame in the first half. I actually felt they were down 29 because they were like trying to get like a little payback here and there, and it just like wasn't working out for them. But shout out to Alvarado. The fact that he wasn't even in the game with the game technically, I guess, hanging in the bounce, even though they were still down a ton, and he knocks down that big three.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm like, Oh, these guys I didn't want him in there, I didn't want him in there, and then he hit that, and then I was like, Okay, you could stay.

SPEAKER_04

Um, how about Mike Brown pulling that move? Because you know he's gonna get criticism if you know if he he puts him out there and there's a couple air balls in a row. Maybe it doesn't matter because they're down so big, but Mike Brown is looking like we we all thought everybody in the world when my when what's his name was was let go, who was it again?

SPEAKER_03

Thibodeau.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, when he was let go and Mike Brown was hired. I don't think there was anybody in the world that was like, Oh, huge upgrade. Now, now the Knicks are like super legit. I think people thought, okay, he is just as good as Thibodeau, maybe slightly better, but those margins aren't big enough. But like, it's he's kind of proving that those margins are way bigger than people thought.

SPEAKER_03

Well, just the way that he is coaching, you know, it's it's a total systematic revolution over what Tibbs was doing with that team, largely the same roster, and a big part of that is not just creativity and matchups and approach and scheme and offense, but the fact that he's not this was a constant criticism of Tibbs going back multiple teams, not running guys into the ground. Guys are looking fresher in the NBA finals right now. Part of it is all the time off they had going into the finals, but in general, throughout this playoff run, this team is looking fresher than it ever did during a playoff run under Tibbs because Tibbs played all his most important guys. I may be exaggerating here, but 45 minutes a night every game, you know. He just didn't trust the bench or didn't want to play the bench or whatever. Mike Brown, I mean, there's balance to this roster, and that is helping in these clutch moments and these big comebacks when when they're not too tired for it, they got the legs for it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and the bench has been great. I they they actually were not great besides Alvarado at the end there, like they were missing quite literally every shot. Um, but Shaman's been incredible. Deuce has been incredible at times. He missed every three-pointer last night, but uh yeah, it's I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_03

This all feels weird, and I'm scared still, but um yeah, let's let's let's go let's go back to that because like you said, you've never watched one of your teams win something. Yeah, I think for a lot of us, and granted you're still what the late 20s, mid 20s, whatever you are.

SPEAKER_04

30.

SPEAKER_03

Appreciate that. 30 31. Oh, awesome. So for so for a lot of us, though, like it's you should go to the gym for a lot of us. The like you, I don't want to say you age out of fandom, but it's just never the same in adulthood as it is when you're younger, right? And some of that maybe comes from if you have the opportunity to watch some of your teams win a little bit, you you get a little desensitized to remembering what like the pain and the struggle and all that. Like, I mean, what what presuming this happens, and I know you're not ready to go there, but you are up 3-1. Like, what I mean, what is this gonna feel like mean to you?

SPEAKER_04

This question is meant to be a jinx that he will refer to later when they lose four games to three. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, fingers crossed, crossing toes, everything.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I don't I I I can't I don't know what it'll feel like. I I have absolutely no idea because it's never it's never happened. And Frank, the closest I think I got was um New York Rangers losing to the Kings. I forgot what year was it, but that that hurt real, real, real, real, real bad. And like I since all my teams suck so bad, I always just expect like the worst possible thing because that worst possible thing always happens. So like I don't I don't really feel good yet. Um, I feel well, I feel fantastic they're up 3-1 because if you told me they were up 3-1 going into this, I would be I would have taken it so many times. So I but I don't know considering what happened to me at the end of this game and how insane I felt and what I and was and knocked over things all over my house. Um I don't know. This is just it's something I've never experienced before, and like I don't I mean you have a bunch, I don't know how it is for you, but this is pretty cool, man.

SPEAKER_03

Are the Knicks one like is anybody above the Knicks for you?

SPEAKER_02

No, that yes, it's the shitty fucking dolphins. They're they're like my um because like football is my like main sport. Um, sure. And it was honestly football and hockey growing up. I I used to watch hockey all the time, and then I became an adult and I don't have the time to watch 900 games a season. Um but so the the Rangers losing to the Kings in the finals hurt so much. Um but yeah, the I don't know, just any one of the teams, like if the the Mets are like my lowest because baseball sucks, but like even if they got to this point, just like and when they were that when they were there, like uh I don't know how many years ago when I was in college. Um Stadium series.

SPEAKER_03

Boy, it was it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, this is a while ago. Um like that was such a fun time because it just I don't get it a lot, so this is gonna be I don't know. I just I need I need to see one go down. You need to see one go down. Will you buy all the merch? I already have so much, but um not championship merch. Yeah, no. Um, yes, yes, I will. Yes, I will because I will also be up some money. See ya. Did you look into my request?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I well, I'm gonna do it. I'll probably do it tonight. I haven't made the bet yet because I I need to put money in the account where the best odds are. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's an MGM where I don't have what do we have?

SPEAKER_02

You didn't give me your Venmo, you gotta do that too. Yeah, yeah, I will. What is this request?

SPEAKER_04

It's a it's a hitch on the Spurs to win it all because Thorb has a lot of money coming to him if the Knicks win it all.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. What what were the odds that you got in New York at?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, like plus 1,500 most of the uh most of it, I would assume. It was just basically mid season every single time I had a bonus bet, right to the Knicks. Any any sort of scenario like that, boost on basketball, right to the Knicks. Wow. Um, then it just accumulated over time. And now, because I can't imagine the depression I will feel if I miss out on that money, and then also the championship, it it'll be a bad, rough time for the boy over here. So I'm gonna have to see just 500 bucks, not nothing crazy. You know, it's just a just a depression hedge, and then then we move on with our life, and then hopefully I win the rest of it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, it's a good hedge, it's a very solid hedge.

SPEAKER_03

Smart.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, stifler pointing out I don't have money in my MGM account. So here's the thing during golf season and non-NFL season, I'm really not made like a lot of my bets aren't being made there just because the variety that other places have to offer. But once NFL season uh comes around, all the major books like I'll have money in.

SPEAKER_03

So also my biggest bets on MGM are like three dollars at this point. Yeah, I'm not limited like that there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, just tells you a little something about me.

SPEAKER_02

I tell I told Tia when uh when I told him I'd set him to 500 bucks. I was like, this is gonna be good for your future chances of being limited because that's a dumb that's a dumbass bet.

SPEAKER_05

So true.

SPEAKER_03

Stifler is asking what everyone's favorite book is. I will ask SPJ behind the scenes is that a question we're allowed to answer? Maybe not.

SPEAKER_00

Why why is that the line we're drawing on this show?

SPEAKER_03

We can't talk about favorite books, like well, I didn't I didn't know if we, you know, with our partnership with Lucky Rebel if we're gonna go around here and sports books.

SPEAKER_00

I'm thinking like fucking 1984. Like, there's so many books you could uh you're talking about uh the hatchet sports book.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, the fact that you thought that we were talking about novels is like the funniest thing.

SPEAKER_00

I was half paying attention to you guys because I was busy doing something else, and you asked me the question. I mean, obviously, The Hobbit. I mean well, now I want to know your favorite novel, so go go for that first.

SPEAKER_04

My favorite book is The Almanac. That's actually a true story. Like, if I'm like, because I can flip through it, I don't have to like dead, like I can go in and I can go out and learn stuff.

SPEAKER_02

I haven't read a book since I was like six. I believe that. Ouch.

SPEAKER_03

Kev says the hatchet is a classic. I don't even know what the hatchet is.

SPEAKER_02

I read it in school, I think. I don't know. It's about a guy with a hatchet or something.

SPEAKER_03

Is uh showing up says all married people should read faux. I don't know what I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_04

Is there an audio book? Because if there is, I'm still not listening to it.

SPEAKER_00

Nixon Fo.

SPEAKER_04

I've got sports to prep for.

SPEAKER_00

Can you guys bully Adam to actually go to the proper doctor to get rid of this?

SPEAKER_04

It's like way better than it's been. We're did you go to a podiatrist? Like, what does he even mean by that?

SPEAKER_03

No, I think it's good because I haven't actually gone to a doctor. You've had this cough for like three weeks, you six weeks. I at least I had the flu, and I am told sometimes a cough lingers for a few weeks.

SPEAKER_04

I have had a cough linger for like almost a couple months. Like, that that's definitely that that's not me saying you shouldn't get it checked out. I don't know your situation, but where am I? Coughs can really can really last, unfortunately. I'm starting to get a little. I thought I was getting choppy.

SPEAKER_03

You have to take over and just bring up the graphic. That's right. Do you do you have the uh AI produced graphic that Bisney created? SPJ says no, or he just hates AI and doesn't want to bring it up. That could be part of it.

SPEAKER_00

Both are true, but the it got deleted by somebody else, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

There you go.

SPEAKER_04

We have a lot of people watching. Make sure you follow the no plays off podcast. Um, there was something else I was going to say, though, not just make sure you follow the no plays off podcast on Apple or Spot.

SPEAKER_03

I mean to ask a question while you're thinking about that. Sure, go ahead. Uh, so uh I'll I'll start with a statement, which is uh Mexico is up 2-0 right now in its uh World Cup match to begin this tournament. I'm curious, especially Thorb, while driving and moving and all that, and see you just as someone who strikes me as a person who probably very quickly mutes annoying group text threads. Uh, how did you guys endure the uh ongoing merciless BNN footy frenzy draft that was taking place over the last couple of days?

SPEAKER_04

Well, I'm pretty sure Thorb didn't read a single message, not one. I thought I didn't even realize initially it was from BNN. There were so many people on it that I just assumed that I was like getting flooded with some sort of like spam situation. Then I realized it was the soccer draft. And the unfortunate thing for me and Thorb, I think I speak for him when I say this, is like, I mean, you could gather this from the other shows I do. I know nothing about soccer. I we we do soccer stuff on my shows, but I know nothing about soccer. Sure. So I don't know what's going on in that chat, but I just threw some names out in Thorb, just so you know. I made it sound like, and I don't know if I was actually trying to sell this, I made it sound like you were making all the picks and that you were like talking smack to everybody about how good your picks were. Like I was actually quote.

SPEAKER_03

I I I bought it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, I didn't mention it to Thorb at all. Oh you you sound like a cocky jerk, and by the way, you have terrible teams that you drafted, and you make it sound like you're gonna win the whole thing, which is fantastic for me.

SPEAKER_02

I do like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I was I was mid move during all that. I was like, I can't do this right now. This is this is overwhelming, and then um I I will tell you right now because you just meant uh mentioned Mexico's playing. I'm so jacked up from this move, I didn't know the World Cup started today. Yeah, so that that's where I'm at in my life. I don't know what's going on. Oh, yeah, we're I didn't know it was Thursday. When you guys said, like, are like are we good for the show? I was like, What do you guys like? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03

I had no idea. I've got the broadcast on Fox and they just flashed a graphic. Uh it's it was I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was like tune in for like World Cup after hours with James Corden at midnight. What I didn't know James, like where's James Corden been? That's the late night guy, right? I mean, he used to be, but not in a while. Oh, wait, I know that guy. Yeah, yeah, I know that guy.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, James Corden isn't the carpool karaoke guy, is he? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Oh, he's great. That dude's hilarious. Have you guys watched the carpool karaoke thing?

SPEAKER_03

Like, I mean, not in a while, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But like you've seen a lot of them. I've seen them, yeah. Yeah, Corb, have you seen them?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've seen any of them. I don't think this guy is great, though. You like this guy? He's hilarious. He's hilarious, huh?

SPEAKER_04

It's like naturally funny, like, not like I tell a joke and it's funny. He's just like naturally like funny when he talks. It's just funny.

SPEAKER_03

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_04

Why don't you marry him? Fine. Great. How is he does a good carpool karaoke with uh Justin Bieber? He actually has two of them. How is GG bananas? What about bananas?

SPEAKER_03

I said, How is Gigi bananas?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, GG bananas. Oh, so the the floor, the season finale was yesterday, and actually she was kind of she was kind of in her feelings about it because she was on this show, it was this great experience. She was in Ireland to to film it for like almost two weeks because she was kind of waiting for it to start or whatever. But the point is, made all these friendships, and then it all ended yesterday because the show ended, even though it ended for her many weeks ago. Uh, she was definitely like feeling like, oh shoot, like now it's like over, over, like the season's over. So it was it was interesting to like go through that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, next show.

SPEAKER_04

She wants she's she's already on that that page because she thinks it's super fun. But unfortunately, when you're on one game show, for the most part, you have to wait a certain period of time until you can get on another game show. And a lot of times it's like 12 months by from the time that it airs, which means she's probably not going on anything for a year.

SPEAKER_02

Why is it why?

SPEAKER_04

I'm not sure. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03

It's weird, don't like that. Yeah, I rule against it. I won't stand for it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I won't stand for it either.

SPEAKER_03

Cyncia, you are not particularly invested in the World Cup, then I'm just assuming Thorb isn't at all. I am not at all.

SPEAKER_02

Well, uh well, I have one bet. I just bet the chalk and just call it a day. It's spina. Espana.

SPEAKER_04

So what what were their odds? What did you bet?

SPEAKER_02

Plus 500 to win it all.

SPEAKER_04

To win everything, yeah. Yeah, that doesn't sound fun at all.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm not gonna really watch it anyway, dude. I got shit to do, bro. I'm not even close to being done setting up this goddamn place.

SPEAKER_03

We've only got about five more minutes, and actually, we're gonna be back with people tomorrow at uh two o'clock Eastern. So, Thorb, put that on your calendar because you can really, yeah. We got another, don't we? Isn't that the thing, SPJ?

SPEAKER_04

SPJ's like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know that we find I don't think that we find I thought we said we were doing a show tomorrow after uh any given wager, are we not? Who knows, brother?

SPEAKER_04

I think it was something that was brought up, but would like no I thought we were doing that to account for not having a show last week.

SPEAKER_03

We were double dipping this week. We can work all that out behind the scenes, I guess. But what uh what uh ultimately I was just saying that to say, hey, we'll have more time tomorrow, but in the few minutes that we've got, uh, how is this whole like move and going to Florida and working with pullbacks thing going so far?

SPEAKER_02

Oh well, it's uh it's a lot, but it's I think it's gonna be really good. I think really good things are gonna happen out of it. Um I literally got informed on the way driving down that I was not moving to the place I was moving to, I was moving to a different place, so I had to switch all that stuff, and then this place like didn't have as much stuff, so I had to buy. I basically I know all the names of the employees at Home Goods at this point. Um, I've I've I live there, and I just ordered 14 things from Amazon that should be here soon. Um, so it's it's a lot of stuff, but um, yeah, I've been in the poll wax office already. Filmed some stuff, did a couple things, learning some stuff, and uh yeah, a lot of good things are gonna come, you know. I feel good, feel good about good on the dot.

SPEAKER_04

You did something with pull wax, a quick little video on your new song on the dot. Everybody go to Spotify and check out on the dot. Thorb gets 0.0001 cents for every stream. On the dots, really good, Thorb.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it means a lot if you give me that fraction of a penny. That would mean a lot to me.

SPEAKER_03

Adds up, adds up slowly, very slowly, very slowly, but it adds up. It adds up. Is polwax still planning to partner with us here on this uh particular podcast? Not sure. We should chat with those guys. Yeah, I know them. I mean, you got you got an inside link there. Yeah, you're pretty close.

SPEAKER_02

Some of those guys are doing this pod at the like, I don't know. At polwax, yeah, because like I don't even know when I'm gonna be there when I'm not. I have no details about any of my life for currently. You know what I mean? I'm just winging it.

SPEAKER_03

It's a pretty bold, bold move right here, don't you think?

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's very South Florida, so this is like par for the course. Everything's South Florida, everybody's just kind of just kind of flying blind, enjoying the sun and just seeing what happens.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I'm not a big fan of the sun, I don't like to go outside too much, but um, you know, I'll risk it one of these days. I'm I live I'm like pretty close damn close to the beach. It's like a two-minute drive. I'm never gonna go. Never.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, if you're gonna go to the beach, I don't know that Hallendale Beach would be where where to go. Go to Halloween Beach. It's fine, it's just like I just don't know that that would be your vibe.

SPEAKER_02

I'll tell you what, see ya. I'm not going to any beach ever. There you go. Beach, sand.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not a big beach guy either. Yeah, I live two miles from there for 17 years. I I didn't go to the beach that much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, sand's dumb, saltwater's dumb. It's all dumb. Oceans kind of dumb.

SPEAKER_03

Walk around, show off those guns a little bit, try and meet some people. That's what pools are for.

SPEAKER_02

Try to eat some people, meet some people. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, that makes more sense. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. Sook says I'm with Thorb. Overrated stuff.

SPEAKER_04

So I assume you're in a condo complex. Do you have a like a pool on the on the top level on the roof? Is there a pool?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no. I know I'm in like uh like a house type situation. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Gotcha. I thought you were in a condo. I got you. All right.

SPEAKER_03

One of these days, I'll give you a tour. You know what I mean? Uh, fam says, can Thorb and see a text one and two in the group chat so I can finally figure out who's who.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, sure. My bad, fam.

SPEAKER_03

I think I was supposed to now which which one are you gonna be? You're gonna be one or two?

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna be one.

SPEAKER_03

You son of a bitch. You should both text one, just keep modest.

SPEAKER_02

Oh well, now he's gonna know. I didn't even put my name. Say hi.

SPEAKER_00

My name's Visa, both of you. So don't confuse.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I has if if you just search the chat, fam, see has referenced Thorb many times.

SPEAKER_04

I just texted the group. I said, fam, I'm one, and that's all I said.

SPEAKER_03

See, hearing you say fam is funny, honestly. I didn't I didn't even get it yet. Oh, there it is. Oh no, uh no, never mind. I got a one from Sook. Sook texted one. You have to text you to do anything? See you didn't do anything. Somebody, somebody texted two, but I don't even I don't know. Yeah, it's over now. I don't know whose number that is. I can tell you it's not C or Thorb.

SPEAKER_04

I think that's uh Alex.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's not him either. See you. You also didn't do it. I have no idea who's two.

SPEAKER_04

I'm pretty sure I did. You did maybe it hasn't gone through.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe you sent it to a different group chat. Yeah. Do you have another 20-person group chat? I don't think so. This is by far my largest group chat. I don't know if that's a good thing. Now now people are literally just counting. Visaw's just texted four. Yeah, this gotta hang quick. Well, I'm just gonna jump in with five because I'm here. So fam, that's me. Five.

SPEAKER_02

Fam.

SPEAKER_04

Fam. Oh, uh Adam, say spinach. Spinach? Thor, say spinach. Spinach. Spinach. Okay, so when I say spinach, I think I say it with like a G E at the end, even though I like I clearly that's not how you say it. Spinach. Do you guys do the hard CH?

SPEAKER_03

Spinach?

SPEAKER_04

It's like harder to say it that way, right?

SPEAKER_03

No, I I I say it like with a G sound, spinach.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like most people say it like that. But I recently got called out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't do the hard CH, the spinach.

SPEAKER_02

No. If somebody twirls around really fast, would that have to do with spinach or like spinach? That's spinach. That's a type of spinach.

SPEAKER_04

But you'd say it the same exact way, regardless. That's what I'm suggesting.

SPEAKER_00

You should eat spinach while you spinach.

SPEAKER_03

Wasn't that Popeye the can of spinach?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that is correct. Yes.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's a table. I'm impressed that you know who Popeye is. Everybody knows who Popeye is. Do they? The young's and the olds. All right.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's mostly people that go to the gym though, Thor.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, all try to look like Popeye. Yeah, yeah. Signed up to the gym first day here. You guys proud of me?

SPEAKER_04

LA Fitness? Which gym?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, it's like a crunch.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you did that.

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what. Actually, I won't say it. Say it. They didn't lie about the women here, boys. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_04

I've been trying to tell everybody. They're real. People don't understand. They think that they think they understand and then they get down there.

SPEAKER_02

It's yeah, I thought it was overblown. It was it was it's real, it's real stuff. They're out here, they're about it's just blown, it's not overblown. It's just it's blown, man. It's it's just it's crazy, it's crazy stuff, man. Unbelievable. Yeah, they don't wear a lot either, which is pretty sick. I promote that. That's good. Good for you. Show your skin. You're gonna make any friends, you think, while you're there? I already made one. I guess I could tell you a really funny story. I don't think I should, though. Well, we gotta go, we gotta go soon. Oh, oh, thank god.

SPEAKER_04

We what what is the take what is the story regarding so we can we can pin it for the next show?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know if I could say because um the person follows me now, but um so I learned I'm not a big casino guy, believe it or not. I do most of my sports gambling, just you know, online and shit. Um, but but I figured out quickly while somebody was uh gambling with me at the blackjack table that there's just women that walk around and massage you, and I was unaware, and now I was so drunk after Nick's game, too. Um, I paid this woman for three hours to just follow me around massage everywhere I went.

SPEAKER_04

That's at the hard rock. Where were you? Where were you? Oh my gosh, that is incredible. What was the tab? A lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um like like 300 a lot or it was it was like 380 or something like that. Um and it was of no concern to me because there was nothing else I wanted to do. I was cooked, man. I had like 400 beers at Hooters, and I was just I need to lay here, and that's what I did, and it was great. Lovely lady, lovely lady.

SPEAKER_04

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03

You can follow me around and be my personal masseuse.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was like, I was like, Can you just come with me? And she's like, Yeah, I was like, All right, so we just went everywhere together, and now we're dating, we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we hung out. Uh, gentlemen, we got we gotta go. We gotta go. There's another thing to go.

SPEAKER_03

Thorb Adventures in Miami. All right, well, uh, maybe we'll be with you tomorrow, maybe twice next week. I don't know. We're gonna figure it out. Stay with us though, because uh great content on BNN is uh up next. We're gonna have Bet Espresso, a whole team of people, even a new member of the team. Is it not an express espresso, Bet Espresso? See ya. Sorry. Uh for see ya for Thorb, go Spurs. I'm Adam. And uh up next, but not really pocket. See you later. Next at five. See you later.