Astrology, Career Alignment & Navigating The Human Experience With Dani Beinstein

Summary

What if your career path, challenges, and timing weren’t random, but part of a larger pattern you could actually understand?

In this episode, I sit down with psychological astrologer Dani Beinstein to explore how astrology can help you better understand yourself, your cycles, and your path forward.

We go beyond horoscopes and sun signs into a deeper conversation about identity, timing, career alignment, and what’s unfolding collectively right now.

This conversation blends psychology, spirituality, and real-world insight, so you can navigate your life and career with more clarity, self-trust, and intention.

Timestamps

06:57 Dani's Path to Becoming a Psychological Astrologist
12:55 Understanding Astrology: The Basics
18:31 The Significance of Sun, Moon, and Rising Signs
24:33 Cycles in Astrology: Navigating Life's Phases
30:11 Current Astrological Influences and Future Trends
35:39 Navigating the Future with Astrology and AI
41:42 The Shift Towards Individualism
45:49 The Changing Landscape of Work and Relationships
52:43 Understanding Historical Trends and Future Predictions
55:24 Embracing Self-Acceptance and Personal Growth

🔑 Key Takeaways

• You are not meant to have everything figured out all at once- clarity unfolds over time
• Astrology is a tool for self-understanding and timing, not prediction
• Life moves in cycles and learning to work with them creates ease
• The collective energy is shifting from passivity → agency
• The future of work will favor human connection, meaning, and individuality
• Your greatest advantage is not becoming someone else, it’s fully becoming yourself

🔗 Connect with Dani

Dani Beinstein is a psychological astrologer who blends astrology, psychology, and intuitive insight to help you better understand yourself and navigate your life with clarity and purpose. Her work is grounded, practical, and deeply human - focused on helping you make sense of your experiences and align with your natural wiring and timing. 

Book a private session or learn more about her work at:
👉 https://www.daniellebeinstein.com

Keywords: astrology for career, psychological astrology, career alignment, life purpose, personal growth, understanding life cycles, saturn return, navigating uncertainty, career transitions, intuitive decision making, future of work, self discovery, ThriveWorthy

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hi, everyone. It's Alicia. Welcome back to the Thrive Worthy Podcast. I am super excited for you to listen to this episode with my astrologist. And her name is Danny Beinstein. She is just a gem of a human. And she has an interesting story to tell about her career path and how astrology really found her. And so I think there's a lot of wisdom in there for everyone who's looking to find their authentic and aligned path. And then we're going to talk about how you can use astrology in your life and in your career as a way to help you think through things and navigate and go deeper. And she also shares some super interesting things around the energetics this year. She shares the planetary alignments and what was going on in history when we last had these kinds of planetary alignments and what she sees going forward, including some points around AI and so forth. It's a really interesting conversation. I hope you get a lot from it. And if you enjoy the podcast, I'd love for you to rate it. I'd love for you to follow it. I'd love for you to share it with people. And my goal with this podcast is just to get out some different interesting ways of thinking, being. There's so much heaviness in the world right now. And I think it's really important for us to have new ways of thinking about the world, thinking about our mindset, and tools to help us on our journey. And so with that, I'm so glad you're here and on to the episode. Welcome to the Thrive Worthy Podcast, where career strategy means soulful alignment, and where we talk honestly about how to build a life and career that feel aligned from within. I'm your host, Alicia D. And after over two decades as an executive in Human Resources, I learned that real success is both aligned and authentic, and it does not require self-abandonment. And now I help accomplished professionals create careers and lives that feel as good on the inside as they look on the outside. So in this podcast each week, we'll explore a blend of neuroscience, psychology, and timeless spiritual wisdom, along with truly practical tools to help you create a life and career that are soul aligned. I'm so glad you're here because we are all worthy of thriving. And this podcast will give you the tools to do just that. Thanks for listening. Danny is a psychological astrologist. She's my astrologer, and she is amazing, like very kind of just intuitive. She just has an amazing way of weaving together all of her knowledge from astrology and helping to guide me in a number of different situations in my life. And I know that many people are interested in astrology, but don't really know much beyond the like sun sign and let me check out my horoscope on a Sunday morning kind of thing. So I thought it would be really powerful to have Danny on. So welcome, Danny.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Yeah, very excited. And so what we'd love to do is hear a little bit from you about how you found this path, because obviously Thriveworthy is about finding and following an authentic and aligned path. So I'd love to hear a little bit about your story. And then we'll go in and would love your um insights in terms of what's going on energetically right now. What are some things that were going on last year that may have kind of lended to certain people having certain experiences? And how do we just generally think of astrology as we, and I've seen you say this and seen it on your website, navigate the human experience because that's what this is all about. So with that, Danny, why don't you tell us a little bit about you and your how you ended up doing this?

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Well, it's not so much that I found this path. I would say this path found me. I grew up in Manhattan in a very academically focused world where the the expectation would that be that I would go into finance, law, you know, things that were easily that I could very easily explain in an elevator, right? Right. And I was raised by parents who were a little bit thought in some ways outside the box and in other ways very much lived inside the box. But they raised me in a home where we were always analyzing, analyzing the world, analyzing, you know, theater and film. And they took me to theater starting when I was very, very young, when I was about, I would say maybe five or six, I started going to theater. And my parents loved the theater. So they took me all the time. And one of my strongest memories is riding home in the cab and analyzing the characters and analyzing who they were. And I was raised, my mother, my dad was not a reader. My mother was a reader of the classics. So I would come home from school. She was not a social being at all. But she'd be reading War and Peace, and she'd be reading, you know, Dostoevsky, and she'd be reading these great texts. And I was also raised in a the schools that I went to were very focused on the Western canon. And I was always interested, always, no matter what I was studying, was what was the human experience? So I was studying history. Well, what was it actually like to live in that time? What are all the factors, the interdisciplinary factors? And so I went to school and I created my own major in college all around the moral zeitgeist of any given era, looking at it through the lens of literature and art. And when I got out of college, I really didn't know. I just didn't, I didn't have, I had a good head on my shoulders in a way, but in another way, to be frank, my head was completely up my ass. I was like, I'm interested in this and I'm interested in this. My first job out of out of college was I worked at Scholastic in the literacy program, like developing literacy tools for children and grade age. And I didn't know if that's what I wanted to do. And I jumped from that to working on a presidential, the 2004 presidential campaign. And then I jumped from that to working in nonprofit. And then I decided to move to LA and work in throughout the industry and I kind of thought, maybe do I want to be screen? I was I was all over the map and I ended up working for a series of producers. And in all of that, I couldn't, I'd started studying astrology on my own when I was 19. And I couldn't quite crack what it was I wanted to do in the commercial world because my focus really wasn't on business. I wasn't really interested in business, but I seemed to have some of the skills that could translate to business. But I was, I was quite confused and I was heading towards 30. And I decided to get this master's in spiritual psychology. And that was really more of a personal choice. And then coming out of that, throughout that, I was working in educational technology. So again, kind of coming full circle around education. And then I came out and I was leading these circles with a good friend of mine. And people started showing up in Los Angeles, and then people started asking me, Will you read my chart? Read my chart this whole time. So I started when I was 19. This time it's maybe like mid-32, 33. And so about 14 years, I was studying astrology on my own. And then people just started asking and asking. And I combined that with my degree in spiritual psychology. And I'm 45 and I've been doing it for 12 years. So it was just, I was interested in so many different things, but this was the first way that I was able to bring it all together and, you know, really look at the world from all of these different perspectives and help individuals, which was ultimately my greatest interest. So it's a very long-winded way to say that it wasn't something that I had that I strategized towards. It was something that kind of found its way to me.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

But bit by bit, it sounds like you noticed your relationship to that. You paid attention to your intuition.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

What I should probably say is that yes, whatever job I had, I ended up counseling everyone from this CEO down. That was that that's probably what I should. That was what I ended up doing. And so the last job I really had, the last like formal job, I was community manager at this small educational ed tech startup. And the CEO pulled me aside. They lost financing and I was about to lose my job and I didn't know that. But he pulled me aside and he said, I am telling you that your role in this world is to translate the right-brained world to left-brained people. He said, I don't know how you're going to do that, but that is your, I'm telling you, that is what your skill set is. And I grew up in an exceptionally left-brained world, but I am more right-brained in many ways. And he was right. And that was really the catalyst. And it was interesting because my job at Scholastic, that first job, I had all these bosses. And really up until I end let ended up in LA, which is a kind of funny thing, but I kept encountering people who really used astrology. Like the woman I worked for at Scholastic, she she had an astrologer, she studied it. And I kept encountering this along my journey. So that also helped to facilitate it. But yeah, that was really the that was the thing when that CEO said to me, This is, I'm telling you, this is this is your role. And I was like, Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

I could see that crystallizing it. I mean, that's very beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Yes. And so, but I couldn't have planned for that, right? It was like sometimes we need someone outside of ourselves who's not someone who's not really invested in our own, not really personally invested, like a parent, right? To reflect us back to ourselves. And that's what they did.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

And I can relate to the graduating from university and not knowing what I wanted to do. And I think there are a lot of people in that situation. And I think just some of the learning I would hope they take away from this is you don't have to have it figured out all at once. And while your family might be one of those families that it's like there's doctor, lawyer, business, and nothing else, which was mine too, like just take the next step. Do the next thing that seems interesting, learn as much as you can. And like step by step, you're going to connect with what you're meant to connect with. And so your story is just kind of a beautiful story of that.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Yes, but I also, yes, but it wasn't without its, you know, I was sleeping on couches at certain points. I mean, I was living in these kind of, I would not say greatest apartments, you know, I was living in. And so, but I was also in my 20s, and that was kind of part and parcel. I think that especially some of what I noticed with the younger generation is they want to have it figured out, they want the financial security right away and they want to know. And there is a trial piece, especially for people who are younger. And you kind of, I think if you're willing to engage with this part of you, you have to be willing to be a little bit uncomfortable some of the time.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Because it's going to give you the grit and the understanding. At least that was that's was my experience. You know, I think had I it that's just how my journey unfolded. But I think I think a lot of times with the younger generation, they want the financial security right off the bat. And I just, I don't know that that's possible.

unknown 12:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

And everyone's path is different.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Yes. Yes, some people it is. And some people, you know, I have clients who did very well in their 20s and early 30s, and then kind of use that spaciousness to say, okay, what do I want to do now? Everyone's path is different. And that is that is another reason why I love astrology, because everyone is in a different cycle and different place in their life. Just because someone is the same age doesn't mean they are hitting the same markers at the same exact time.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Right, right. So thank you for sharing that. Why don't we get into now? So, how can people leverage astrology? What should people know? Like, start with the basics, because like I said before, I think many of my listeners would just know their sun sign and probably not a lot more. But how can people look to leverage astrology as they're thinking about their careers, as they're thinking about their lives?

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Like, give us the overview of what there's different layers to astrology. When we're talking about astrology as an astrologer, we're looking at a natal chart, which is a snapshot of the sky the moment we were born. And it looks like a pie wheel, like a pizza or a pie, and it's divided into 12 slices. Within those 12 slices, which are called houses, there are 10 main celestial bodies. Each of those is making or not making a geometrical degree aspect to one another. And so that can tell us a lot about the default personality type, right? Some people are more proactive, some people are more responsive, some people are more people-centered, some people have more of like an engineering brain, right? Some people are meant to, they operate best when they're siloed, you know, and can work on something in really deep dive. Other people work in collaboration. So these are all things that we can learn about ourselves through understanding our astrological chart. That's one piece of the pie. The other, or not pie, but one piece of the astrology. But the other really important is that we have certain timing in our life. Times when things may feel contracted, times when things may feel expanded, you know, sayings like, you know, strike when the iron is hot. Like there are certain periods where we may feel like, oh, things are just flowing, and other periods where we feel like we're at a literal standstill or really stuck. And astrology can be incredibly useful in understanding timing because often we think we live in a world where we think everything is the individual's responsibility. Then we flip to that and say, no, everything is the system's problem. It's the problem is with the system. And the truth is that there's something even greater that's taking place, and each of us is participatory in our own unique way. And each of us, each individual has their own journey of what they're up against, both within themselves and then the world at large. And so astrology is a great tool for understanding ourselves. And first and foremost, accepting how we're wired and then working with that. Right. So I will often say, like, if you're a gazelle but want to be an elephant, you're going to be a great gazelle. But if you try and be an elephant, it's going to be rough. You don't have the snout. It's not going to work in the same way, right? So I think that we understanding, like, right? Some people are generalists. Some people do better in, you know, in real us real specific roles. Some, and so all of these different factors contribute to how we can find and understand success for ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Yeah, I think that's really helpful. And then talk a little bit more. What's the sun, moon, and rising and how does that come into play? Because I know I'm a Gemini, just as an example. And I knew I was a Gemini. But until I came to you, I didn't understand that there were other key pieces. And I don't even remember mine. Yeah. But my moon and rising or whatever are also all air. So all of my stuff is all air. And like you said to me, okay, well, it makes sense for you to do a podcast because you're air. You're like all air. You're meant to circulate. Right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

So the sun is our core essence. We're actually probably not so conscious of the expression of our sun. Again, the geo, the sign, the house, and the geometrical aspects that are made or not made to our sun inform the nature of our sun. It's why some people will come to me and they'll say, I'm a Pisces, but I don't feel like a Pisces. Well, it's because you have Saturn conjunct your sun and it's located in the 10th house. So actually you feel more Capricorn. There's elements like that. But the sun is the core essence, how we shine, not fully conscious. The moon is the emotional landscape and the needs. And the rising is a bit like the conditioned mask, our personality that we present when we walk into a room. Those are what we call the big three. But like I said, there's 10 main celestial bodies. And so there is Mercury, which is our thought and our processing. Really important, right? People process the world differently. Anyone in relationship to any other human being knows that was your takeaway. That's how you perceive that. That's how you break that down, right? Decision making that's going to be shown in Mercury, for example. How we come to a conclusion, how we, again, an engineering mind, an intuitive mind, all of that can be seen through Mercury. Venus is how we attract. But really underneath it, people say it's love and money. Really underneath it, it's values. What do we value? And with that, how do we value ourselves? And then there's Mars, which is our drive and our motivation. So the sun and the moon are the luminaries. The rising is just a point. It's not actually a planet. It's a point in the sky. And it's set by the time we are born. So there's sun and moon, which are the luminaries, then there's Mercury, Venus, and Mars, which are the personal planets. Then there's five outer planets. There's Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Those take anywhere from 12 to 248 years ago in the zodiac. And that is more generational. And when we were having what we call an outer planet transit, that is when we feel that we can feel like we are at the mercy of something beyond our control. But what's really happening is that the outer planet transit is bringing forth material in our unconscious or subconscious. It's drawing out that which is within us. And it shows up differently depending on the nature of it. But Jupiter takes 12 years, Saturn 28 and a half years, Uranus takes 84 years, Neptune takes 164 years, and Pluto 248 years. So the way we will feel each of these, and each one has their own flavor, will impact us as well. And so a lot of people will come to me because they are having a very significant Saturn transit or Pluto transit, which Saturn is the structural reality of our life, our responsibilities, the physical world reality. And then Pluto deals with the much deeper transformational alcohol chemical change that takes place within us. Often people will come to me when they're having a major outer planet transit. What's happening? Why is this happening? Give me some cosmic understanding of why this is happening. And the other thing is that we tend to think of our career as separate from our personal life. And I'm not talking about work-life balance. It's that we often will create dynamics at work that mirror our childhood dynamics. So we may have a boss that reminds us of a parent or a caregiver, right? We may have a coworker that actually brings up material that we have with our sibling, right? So it's not so we differentiate it in our consciousness, but actually all material is there to help us understand ourselves and help us grow. So there, yeah, there's a myriad of reasons why someone will come see me. But the the classic of what are my big three, just to understand oneself, may be the intro why someone comes to see. I'm just, what is this? What am I? What is that, you know? Give me more understanding of why I'm wired the way I am, just you know, beyond my parents or this way, or I was raised in this, in this world or this subculture.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yeah, and I think that's very powerful. I know from our sessions, it definitely helped me understand. And I do a lot of these, I mean, not astrology specifically, but self-development, personal development. So I loved all this stuff and anything spiritual too. So but when I came to you, you know, you just helped me certain things about how I showed up in the world, and then also helped me understand some of the things that I might be experiencing at particular points in the year. Like themes that might be more prevalent based on the planetary alignment uh alignment. And also You also help me understand things like I again, I'm not gonna use the right words, but your ex-house of career and like whatever, you know, that it's like it makes sense that you'd want to do this kind of work, and this kind of work wouldn't be as aligned for you naturally, just the kind of being you are. And and just also this concept of cycles. Like some of those cycles that you mentioned are very long cycles. So they're but they're shorter cycles. Right. So the longer cycles are interesting to look at, and maybe you can hit on a couple of things around, you know, like moments in history. Like I've heard you mention a couple of different things that were really like, whoa, that blew my mind. But then the shorter cycles, and I don't remember which one you were talking to me about most recently, but it was like a nine-year cycle, or and it was something about relationships. And you said, well, where were you in such and such a year when this was like where you were in the same cycle and like what was going on in your love life at that time? You know, so it's like there it's pretty insightful, and just I think it's helpful like navigating the human existence to understand everything is in cycles, like, and this is all meant for us, it's meant to help us learn and grow. You know, it's not happening to us, it's like it's there for us.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

But yes, we tend to think of time as linear. Right. We tend to think of this happened then, so then it's complete. And people will do this in just like classic therapy, or it's like, oh, I've healed that. And it's like, no, it's it's deeper. We come back to different grooves within ourselves, right? So the shortest cycle is the lunar cycle. It takes about 20 and a half days for the moon to go around. So that's that's the shortest, and even starting to track that can be very helpful. And then the next one is the sun. So that's the solar cycle. So that's 12 months, right? Different times of year, we may find ourselves more focused on different areas of our life. And that is a personal solar cycle that is indicated by our rising sign. So that's always wise to look at. And then we have our personal solar year that starts with our birthday. So in astrology, the birthday is called the solar return. It's when the sun returns the exact point it was at our birth. And then that gives the year an energetic imprint. And then there's there's different, those are the two, the lunar cycles. So we may find like some months feel easier than other months, and you can pull up what's called a lunar return, those that are really into astrology. But the solar, what I think you're referring to in terms of more frequent, yes, certain times of year where we may find, oh, I just feel more, I feel more engaged in the world at this time of year. This time of year, I tend to want to retreat. And it's not just because of the seasons, you know, just because it's winter. We just may notice that within ourselves. The nine-year cycle that you're referring to is actually part of a greater, roughly 19-year cycle, which is the eclipses. So the eclipses, which are the nodes, the nodes are the south node and the north node. So the south node is think of it as like the qualities that we come here with that come more easily to us. And our north node is the qualities we're meant to grow into in order to self-actualize. Eclipses occur when a new moon or a full moon is in close proximity to this, what we call nodal access. So eclipses are times that the energy may be heightened as we record this. Right now, we are in eclipse season. We had an eclipse on February 17th. We are having a follow-up eclipse on March 3rd. The next set of eclipses will be August 12th and August 28th. There's four to six eclipses every year. Every year. An eclipse period tends to things feel heightened. This one, this solar eclipse that we just had on February 17th is especially significant. It happens to line up with the Chinese New Year. The Chinese New Year is always on a new moon, but it's not always on an eclipse. And in Chinese astrology, I'm not a Chinese astrologer, but it is the fire horse year, which lines up with the energy that we see in coming in Western astrology in 2026. So we are moving from an extended period of water and earth, specifically water and kind of Piscean energy, which is a bit foggy, a bit confused. When Neptune, that 164-year cycle that I mentioned, when it moved into Pisces in 2012, that's about when we started to experience the algorithm. Pisces and Neptune rules film. And it also, it also is kind of escapist, addictive. And so we became these passengers, right? Not these participants, but these passengers on this social media train where it's like, I'm just, I'm taking in and I don't feel a sense of, and our sense of agency, it's very different from looking up a website, looking up someone, right? The algorithm changed the way we received information and we were receiving mini movies, highlight reels, right? So Neptune has just moved into Aries as of January 20. The last time Neptune was in Aries, don't say this to scare, but was the Civil War. So it's a been a long time, right? And what also happened last time Neptune was in Aries is that we had the rise of the arts and crafts movement, at least here in America. So there was a lot more working with the hands, working physically, tactile, desire to create things. So that's a big cycle, a really big cycle that we are entering.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Yeah, sorry to interrupt, but I just want to make sure. So the Neptune in Pisces is where we were 2012 till January 26th. Yeah. So that's the like kind of less agency. We're kind of watching things, social media, the comments you made.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Like a fog, just like a foggy soup.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

Yeah. Yeah. And then now we're going in Neptune and Aries. Is that what you said? Uh-huh. And so then that's so then, yeah. So so go more deeper in that. So that's the piece that you said it like last time it was like this, it was a civil war.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Yes. What makes it so significant that as of right now, as we record this right now, Saturn and Neptune are forming a conjunction in Aries at zero degrees, which is zero Aries is called Aries point. It's the beginning of the astrological wheel. In astrology, in astrological cycles, Aries is the beginning of a new astrological year. That's March 20th. It's the start of the spring in the northern hemisphere. So these are meeting up. And the last time Saturn was in Aries was 96 to 98. Saturn deals with maturation, personal responsibility. But the big deal is that the last time Saturn and Neptune met up was really during the fall of the Berlin Wall, around that time and Tanan Square. So if we look, those who are interested in global politics, if you look at what's happening globally, there is a rearranging of global powers, and there is potentially the fall of an access of power, like we see what's going on in Iran, which in some ways mirrors that period. So super significant. They are meeting up together. On a personal level, it's like a reset button of agency. These two planets will start to separate by the spring, and we will be out of the fog. Also, what is happening is that all five outer planets will be in fire and air by the summer, by the end of the summer. So Jupiter, that's the fastest moving of the outer planets. Takes about it uh, you know, about 12 years to grow in the zodiac. Jupiter is currently in cancer, which is a feeling sign. It's water, it's cardinal water. So it initiates feeling, it sets the emotional temperature. It's moving into Leo, which is fixed fire. So very creative energy. That'll happen June 30th. Prior to that, on April 26th, Uranus, which takes 84 years to grow in zodiac, will be leaving Taurus, where it's been since basically 2019. And it will enter Gemini. The last time it was in Gemini was coming out of World War II. And we saw the kind of proliferation here. And we saw this kind of like post-war boom, but also this rise in technology and the way that we communicate. That will Uranus has not been comfortable in Taurus. Taurus is anything to do with the earth. So, and also like beauty standards have gone kind of. There's been the beauty industry, beauty standards, those are Taurus. The food industry has undergone massive change. Uranus is a disruptor. So it's been disrupting farming, it's been disrupting uh the beauty industry, it's been disrupting anything that has to do with physical earth. And then it's moving to Gemini, which is more of disruption in how we move. You know, we may see an increase in, you know, uh train travel, at least here in America. We may see the proliferation of more exurbia, kind of like mini suburbs further. We're going to see the way that we um interact and even different communication of more information coming in, which feels impossible. But so that's kind of interesting to look at. And then Pluto, which moved into is already in Aquarius. The last time Pluto was in Aquarius was the revolutionary. So these are big, big outer planet transits. And this is not to scare it, just means that we are in a period of immense change. When it comes to the personal level, more fire, more air, more young energy, more directed, more agency, more action. Victim consciousness is gonna continue to go out of, it's gonna trend outward. The idea, I'm a victim, and the energy that's gonna likely come in is be the hero, you know, Nora Efron, be the heroine of your own life. Do you know she said that? Right? Like be the hero, be the heroine of your own life, take responsibility for what you can. We're gonna see a lot more of that. So it's in really interesting period, right, that we are entering. And also in numerology, it's a one-year 2026. So it's a beginning year. Everywhere you look, any modality tells you it's a major reset year and restart year. The way we feel that, feel this will be dependent on our own energy. But we can look back at previous cycles and kind of get a sense of what was happening then. Obviously, that 164 year and 248 year we weren't around for. 84 years, many of us weren't around for, but we can look to Jupiter and Saturn more so to get a sense.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

That's super interesting. And so when I think about a lot of the people who I speak with, either professionally or personally, when I know you mentioned Chinese astrology, last year was the year of the snake, now we're in the year of the fire hoarding. Yes, snake was shedding, shedding old identities, old beliefs, all ways of being. And there was a lot of long-term relationships kind of falling away or breaking off. There was a lot of sense of people either leaving jobs or being pushed out of jobs. Yes. Most of the stories I know, the jobs weren't like really aligned with where they wanted to go anyway, but it's still quite jarring. Yes, yes. Um, so what else would you say either about like the energy of last year and then going into the energy of this year and how people can think about that and using this energy in their lives?

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Well, I think it's not just Aries is known to be a bit impulsive, but because Saturn is in Aries, it's really directed, inspired action. And it's really it's actually coming back to the self and saying, okay, what are what are my skills? How can I potentially start my own thing? I think we're gonna see more and more of that potentially come up. But I think the energy is more, if something went away and it was out of your control, there's nothing you can do about it, right? And there's there's some kind of redirection that's taking place. Often with the redirection, it's not an immediate jump. Sometimes it is, but often there is a period of confusion or kind of what am I supposed to do? This energy, the clarity, we're not quite there yet. It's probably not until the spring that we'll really start to feel that sense of clarity come in and the fire really, really ramp up. But knowing that we are in a transitional period and that 2026 is likely to see new beginnings, it's like lean into what feels like a challenge, work with the fear, overcome the fear. Like let's say we are older and we have some fear around that, because there can be some ageism, right? Some fear of ageism in work. Let that go, jump in, have the experience, learn what feels scary to learn. That is going to embolden the individual. Aries is all about taking on a new challenge, doing the things that scare us.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

Doing the things that scare us. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

It's like be again, be the hero or heroine of one's own life. And Aries comes alive with new challenges. So not being afraid of a new challenge and not looking for what's comfortable and what's easy. Because that can also kind of put us energetically to sleep. But instead, what is gonna like bring forth our energy? What is gonna feel like this is kind of this has got some excitement to it, it's got some thrill to it, it's a little scary, but I'm gonna grow through this. I'm gonna come more into myself. So maybe that job that was taken away, maybe it was it was it was plateauing or keeping one plateaued and quote unquote safe, but really kind of disconnected from one's core skills.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Yeah. And going back to what you said, you said you you can see or expect that more people are going to start their own thing. You mentioned something about the arts and crafts movement. And um talk a little more about like, yeah, directionally, where do you see work going at a collective level? We've got all this AI stuff coming in. People are scared. Like, how do you, when you look at astrology and everything you know, how does that inform some of the things people could be thinking about or could be expecting as work evolves?

SPEAKER_01 37:39

So Pluto and Aquarius is very much the technology and the AI piece because Pluto is power and power dynamics. Aquarius governs technology. So if you go back, you know, astrology, I believe, first began with like ancient Babylonia, right? And you look at like even things like irrigation, that's technology. That changed our reality, right? Shipbuilding changed our reality. And then the invention of the printing press in 1492 changed our reality. And then the telephone, and then, you know, telephone, electricity, telephone, airplane, AI, you know, it's it's a continuation of what seems to be core to mankind, which is to push technology as far as possible. As someone who focused my college career on the Enlightenment and Romantic era, we're at a similar juncture right now where it's like, what is the limit of technology and how do we use it? I tend to believe that what makes us human is our search for meaning. That's what makes us human, right? I know there's a lot of scare around AI, and I know there's a lot of fear mongering. But again, we don't have control over that. What we have control is where we find meaning in our life, where we draw meaning from. And so rooting in that. And then I do believe that any of the sectors that are deeply human are going to be the sectors that have more longevity, right? Because someone can manage AI. And I do, you know, I know people are using Chat GBT as therapists. I I don't know the longevity of that because it's just sycophantic. It's just feeding people what they want to hear. There's no actual growth. And I do think at some point we're gonna want more human interaction. But I think not being afraid of it, using it as a tool. Yeah. Right. I think there's gonna be more and more roles. Anytime there's new technology, there are also new industries.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

Well, and I love the reflection you just gave us about when irrigation came in and the printing press and shipbuilding, all of those were new technologies that changed the way we live and operate. And AI is another Yeah, the car, all of it. And so the AI is the next example of that. But it doesn't need to be something that we fear. It's something that we continue to learn how it can elevate us and learn how life will evolve with it. But to your point, you know, nothing takes away our humanity. It can't replace our humanity. And so for we don't let it, right? We don't let it, yeah. And so how do we work with it? How do we understand it? How do we relate to it? I mean, as a business owner, Chat GPT saves me tons of time. And it's I don't I don't know that I could do what I'm doing now as easily if it didn't exist. Um I hear that all the time.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

But it's I hear that all the time. I feel like a Luddite because I have not engaged it. But I hear that all the time, like, and from clients who are using it. And so again, like if it feels useful as a tool, why not? But it's like take this, take an example as like this, may sound silly, but it's not so silly. Take a take the example of a travel planner. What's the term I'm looking for? Travel agent, right? So I have this, I don't charge anyone for it, but I love planning trips. So I plan trips for people all the time, right? And I haven't used Jack GBT, but I'll have someone come to me, if I and they'll be like, they put it together, and I'm like, yes, but you're not gonna like that. You're not gonna enjoy, like, this is a great framework, but let's get in this. Like, where actually are you going to like to be as a human being? What is what is your experience? It can only take us so far. So it's great as like a seeding tool, but it's not gonna replace the skill of someone who's actually been to those places around the world and can bring the human peace. And I think that's what we have to remember is that, but also we have to invest in human quality things, right? So if we, if we say, oh no, I just want the convenience and we stop investing in other people, other people are gonna stop investing in us. So, how do we like that's up to us, right? How we use it. And so I think that there's something, again, like new industries can be created, ones that we can't even. I mean, do you think anyone who is 20-something now thought that they were gonna be an influencer? What are you gonna be when you grow up? I want to be an influence. No, it didn't exist. Social media didn't exist, it wasn't a job, right? So I think if we think more along those lines, and again, this is coming from someone, I tend to be more of a let out, you know, but I do think it's really important to recognize that with any new technology, there are drawbacks and there are advances. But I also think we're kind of romanticizing the pre-industrial age and like there's a lot of like diseases then. I don't, you know, we live in much more sanitary times. We live, it's really nice. I just went through an ice storm and I didn't have power for 10 days. It was not fun. You know what I mean? Having cold water and not eat. And I think that we tend to, oh, this is no technology, it's not good, and then try and live without it. It's not easy. Right. Right? Right. So I think that we, you know, it doesn't have to destroy our humanity.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Right. And so what other what are other kinds of jobs that you could see people leaning into more?

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Well, I do th I do wonder if there's going to be a maker movement that returns. I do wonder how it all works in terms of scale. I think we are, we have been obsessed of late with scale. Of late, I mean, like the past couple decades. Like, how do you scale something? How do you scale it? Seems like things are people are building things for the sole purpose of being bought out by private equity. I feel like that's like a big trend. I do wonder if if people are going to return. To doing things for the love of the craft. Do you know the famous parable about the fisherman and the businessman? I don't know. So there's a fisherman and he's out on this lake or sea and he's he's just in complete peace and he is fishing and a businessman is on his boat and he notices this guy and he he notices that he has this technique where he is just reeling in these fish. Like he's just reeling it in. So he approaches him and he's like, What is this technique? And the fisherman tells him the technique and he's like, We have to sell this technique. We have to sell it to so many people. You don't understand, you will revolutionize fishing, and then you could do whatever you want to do. What do you want to do? I want to do exactly what I'm doing right now. This is what I want to do. Right? So I'll use that a lot with clients. Like, for example, if I have a client who is a hairstylist and they're like, should I buy my own salon? And then I'm like, do you really want the admin? That's not to say I'm not anti-growth. I'm not a degrowth person, but it's like, what do you actually want? What is the thing that's going to bring you alive? I think a lot of what's happened with the increase in white-colored jobs and middle management is that people are further and further from feeling their own, the effect of their own skill or talent in an immediate way. And so I do wonder with this new energy, if there's going to be more of a craving of that. I have some younger clients who are influencers and they're like, I'm tired. I'm tired. I just want to do, I just want to do actual work. So I do wonder if that bubble is bursting and there's more of a desire to return to the tactile. So, you know, it can that could be a scaling back on on, you know, income in some ways, but quality of life increases in other. Like a return to woodworking and inter, you know, these types of, I mean, we kind of saw that trend explode during the pandemic, sourdough, et cetera. But I do think that there is, like, my niece is is 19, she's Gen Z. They want foot phones. They're over it.

unknown 46:11

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SPEAKER_01 46:11

Interesting. Yeah. So I think that there's something, and we'll see how it plays out. But I do wonder if the conversation about scale versus sustainability, like, there's a lot of blowback to fast fashion and to like scaling in fashion. You have a lot of these, you know, newer brands who are doing capsule wardrobes. Right. And so I do think we have maybe hit maybe hit peak in in mass production. I don't know. I don't know. And I'm sure there's, you know, a million people in business who would be like, I you don't know what you're talking about, et cetera. But I do, I think people are like, do I need to go into debt for a new washing machine when the old one actually works better? That type of thing. You know?

SPEAKER_00 46:57

Yeah. And I think just uh coming back to simplicity and what really matters, you know, the capsule wardrobe and other things, like how do you want to spend your time and just spending more time in nature, having more time to reflect and and people are tired.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

With the people we love.

SPEAKER_00 47:14

Yeah. And with the people you love, yeah. And how does astrology inform us? I know from a human design perspective, we've been in this collective era, and then we're going to be moving into more of an individualization kind of thing. Um, does that does astrology connect with that in some way? And what anything else you'd say? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

That's yes, because Aries is the individual, it's the eye. So Pisces is everywhere and nowhere. It's kind of agape, it's omega, it's all everything at once, right? It's and Aries is is from that, from that formlessness emerges the self. So even with Saturn and during Aries, that's shorter, that's about two and a half years, but the Neptune transit is much longer, right? And so there will be a focus on the individual in that way. And then Pluto is in Aquarius until 20. And Aquarius is the collective, but Pluto tends to destroy and then rebuild. So Aquarius is an interesting sign because it's somewhat paradoxical. You have the collective, but you also have the uniqueness of the individual. And so the yes, it does correlate with more of this boundaried individualism. And not it doesn't have to be like an Anne Rand objectivism, hyper-individualism, but just more of a sense of when we it's just the idea that like when you have a boundary, you actually feel more free. When there are limits, like when you know the container, there's actually more freedom within that. There's no container, it's it's very disorienting. So the same thing, it's like relationships improve when each of the members of the relationship, each of the participants in that relationship understand themselves and bring the fullness of themselves to the to the relationship. So that that's the the I doesn't end with the I. It brings the I to. But if we don't have the I, if we don't have that sense of understanding of where we end in another begins, then we then that's how we're in like this toxic, empathetic soup. You know, we call it empathy, but it's really just kind of this toxic, um, boundaryless place. And so that, yes, I think we are going to see more of the return to the individual. But like I said, then it's how we bring that self to the whatever, to the relationship, to the arena, to the group. Right.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Well, and since I spent 25 years in corporate, I guess I'm hearing a lot of it in terms of relationship to big corporations. I mean, I think we'll see stuff with governments and stuff too. You kind of alluded to that earlier. But it's like it's sort of an interesting thing because this relationship with the corporation that's like you work there for years and years or you make your whole career there, it used to be the way it was. And then that creates your CC security. And it's like, and just so many people I think are well, a lot of layoffs are happening, but then also um people are just it feels like a change there. It feels like an energetic kind of sea change.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

It does. I also yes, and kind of semi-related to that in a way. I mean, the Revolutionary War here in America was fought on taxation. And I do feel that there with the return, I think there's that's kind of one of the predictions I have over the next 20 years that there is gonna be blowback against over taxation. Right? Personal responsibility more so obviously you need infrastructure, but you know, a feeling of wanting more agency over one's own earnings. Right. I do think that's like an example that we're gonna see. But that and that can that can move also to corporations. It's like you know, people tend to they tend to invest more when they see results from their work. When you are working for a corporation and you're kind of in the middleman and you don't see, and then you don't see the earnings, you don't really see the result, after a while, you know, that can rub against a person, that can chafe against a person. So I think, and then on a collective level, and then you see corporate. So I think there's gonna be blowback, but I don't think it's gonna be maybe short term. Interestingly, Saturn and Neptune, when they were conjoined, Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, and then we've seen a rise of communism and communist thought with Saturn and Neptune conjunct in in Pisces. But I think that's gonna blow apart pretty quickly with the Aries. And then just like I said at the fall of the Berlin Wall, I think that people are gonna, there's gonna be blowback against it. Mm-hmm. As an example. Like when we look at historical trends. The same, right? 1989 was the fallen of the Berlin Wall, but it was also Tanneman Square. And so that 89, and then, you know, we've kind of been in this, you see this kind of rise of this kind of thinking, but I I do think we are gonna see a blowback to that and more of a return to, at least here, I can't speak, at least here in America, more of a um, no, I want more localized, I want more individualized. I don't want taxation without representation. I don't want to not have be represented. And I think that applies to corporate, I think that's all over the place. We're not there yet, but I I think that is coming. Maybe I'm wrong. But it's well, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

You know, one of the things I've heard you say on a podcast a couple years ago. I think it was a couple years ago, it was the to be magnetic expanded podcast. And you were talking, it was before the presidential election, and you talked about um just what you were seeing, and you're like, I I just expect that there's going to be some kind of big surprise, some upsets, some something.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

Yes like and then you know, when I saw Yeah, I knew he was gonna win. Not like, not like I don't mean to say that, but it's just anybody who was working with me privately that asked, I said it's it's it's not only is gonna win, but it's gonna be a landslide. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

But also it's funny because people are very thought of you. Yeah, when I saw Biden step down and then all of that, and I just thought of you because I'm like, oh my God, she totally called it.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Yeah. Yeah. Because I didn't have an agenda with it, I just kind of saw the energy as neutrally as possible, right? Yeah. Um, so that's without, you know, it's it's nothing to do with personal politics, just seeing the trends in the collective and kind of what I saw coming 2026 and beyond, who was going to be on in office with this coming.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Um, it's really interesting. What else? Anything else you'd you'd kind of say, like for our listeners, and you know, I'm sure this sounds like kind of a lot in some ways. You know, there's a lot to it. But here's the thing rip it all back. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:29

Yeah, here's the thing. I think those of us who, you know, were at least more conscious, you know, in the 90s and that we kind of thought we were living in a post-historical age. We thought, oh now, you know, we're post-history in the West. We have these other things, but like things are copacetic. We're good. We're good. We got we kind of figured out how to be human, modern humans, etc. And that was a fallacy. And so I think it's it feels more alarming because we kind of got a break. Yeah, we had like some drama, but we kind of got a break in a way. Right. And we are now in the throes of history. And I think that's what feels overwhelming to people is that they were, like I said, depending on how old they are, we're kind of expecting like if you talk to people who are like my parents' generation, they'll talk about my parents are silent generation. I wasn't raised by boomers that uh my parents are silent. But if you, you know, they'll say like the 60s were wild, this feels more wild. And I think that's true, but I do think it feels more so because of social media. Because you're not waiting for the newspaper the next morning or the nightly news. It's constant all day. But we've been, like I said, humans have gone through many, many massive, massive changes before. I just think that we have become addicted to comfort. So once we once we can see it as anytime there is the feeling of chaos, there's also the feeling of opportunity. We can start to connect to that. That can feel emboldening rather than if you are Pama Chodran says the great Buddhist guy, if you are interested in security and certainty, you are on the wrong planet. Right? So I'm, you know, this is not to scare, but it's also not to give false comfort. Like they can also make us feel, you know, vitally present and alive if we're not just constantly seeking comfort and we're saying, okay, what how am I gonna participate? What you know, what are my skills? Where can I really shine? And I think no matter what the market is, if one has a skill set that they feel, you know, is contributory and valid, it will find its place in the marketplace. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

100%. Um, what's what's um a takeaway people should take in terms of how astrology can help them live with more ease or more.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

I think the biggest thing is is self-acceptance, is like how am I wired and how to work with that? How to work with one's own wiring and work with one's own timing and cycles instead of pushing up against or fighting against. It can provide great comfort. If you have a map in front of you, if you know you're climbing a mountain and you have a map and you say, okay, you know, just know about 700 feet up, you're gonna hit an area. It's gonna feel a little treacherous. You're gonna feel like you're up against, you know, the cliff. But then you only have like 50 yards of that. And then you've you know, it can help create some kind of ease. Like if we feel like we're stagnant, this is okay, you've got a few months of this, but then it's there's gonna be a break. And then and you know, if if you think about your own life and you think about your own cycles and you beauty of getting older is yeah, that was a challenging period, but I got to the other side. It's the same thing in astrology. Like when we start to recognize those cycles, it becomes easier to move with them.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

Yeah, and I think it's all your orientation to it, also. I mean, I like what you said before. I don't remember how you said it, I'm not gonna say it as well, but it's just the okay, so here's some challenging times. Okay, here's some things I didn't expect, but how do I want to engage with this? Exactly. And sometimes it's in those moments that you do feel like you come most alive or that you learn things about yourself or your capabilities that you didn't know before. And in many respects, it's probably why the universe is putting it in your path. So exactly. It's just all part of the experience. And I love what you said about, you know, I think where we do ourselves a disservice is when we think that we're meant to be comfortable all the time, when we think that we're meant to it's meant to be easeful all the time. I mean, I am a big proponent of trying to create more ease in one's life, but the challenges are there to serve us. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, and and help us grow and learn. And at, you know, the end of the day, when we think about this human experience, in my mind, that's what it's about.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

So yes, yes, and every path is different. And some people's paths are seemingly, you know, they are more easeful than others. You know, I think again, it's like wrecking, but some people really come alive in challenges and they don't want a super easeful experience, right? Right. It's just like some people crave a relationship where there is the friction. Some people crave a relationship where it's just very easeful. It's like we are all wired differently and no one way is better than the other. It's just which archetypes are most alive within us. And I think that's a big piece. It's like that's that's the issue that I take with this world of like, here's six ways to X, Y, Z. That's not going to apply to every single person.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Right? Well, and I love what you said with the acceptance message because it's so important. We are all different. And the more we understand ourselves and we accept where we are and how we show up in the world, and we do our best to be the best version that we can be and not try and shape shift or be something else, the more like blessings will come into our life. And we'll be able to create the life and the abundance we want. It's when we try to be something other than who we are, or we don't accept ourselves as we are. Like I could get quite frustrated with myself sometimes because I am all air and like, so sometimes I am not grounded. Like it can be kind of exhausting. And like, especially in my business, I find people who have are grounded, you know, to work with. Yeah. And, you know, but it's like, but that's also part of just who I am and who I'm meant to be. And so I'm not meant to be the like super on top of every detail completer, finisher, like whatever. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:14

And there's benefit to it all. Exactly. Like I am not a hyper proactive person. I'm just not wired that way. And I am not strategic in the way, I don't think 25 steps ahead. It's just not, that's not how my mind works, but other people do, and they're great for that, right? And so I may hire them as a consultant, you know, in personal finance or something like that. But it's that's okay. I don't have to be everything. I have to do what I do well.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

Well, and your story is beautiful because, like you said, you created your own manager, then you did spiritual psychology, you studied astrology, you've done these different experiences, and then you found this brilliant way to bring it all together. And I I've never had another astrologist, so I don't know if they talk about the history and like the what was going on in the human condition and experience at that time quite the way you do. But like for me, it just brings it to life in such a beautiful, powerful way. That's why I love you for sharing all this wisdom with me. My pleasure. Really appreciate it. Anything else you want to share about this year or how can people work with you and get in touch with you? So include it in the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

Best way to work with me is just booking directly through my website. It's really easy, online scheduler. And if the times don't align, that's available, just send me an email because I'm pretty flexible in trying to fit someone in. And yeah, I mean, I think the greatest takeaway I can say is like the best version of you, like come alive in the best version of you. And the the more we can accept who we are, the less comparison we live in, and we recognize the gifts that everyone else brings with the skills that we may not have, right? And that's also an abundance mentality. If we're coming at it like I have to be good at everything, the best at everything, then that's actually a scarcity place.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:11

100%. You know? Yeah, 100%. I think that's that's really beautiful. Thank you. So very good. All right. Well, definitely everyone, Danny, book a session with Danny. Uh you will not be disappointed. She has advised me on a number of occasions. And just every time I learn more and it's more insightful, and it's just fun. So, Danny, thank you. Such a joy to work with you. Thank you for having me. Well, we'll talk soon. You too. Yes, thank you for being here. I'm looking forward to it. All right. Lots ofe. Bye-bye. Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for listening. I hope you got a lot out of that conversation. And we would love for you to leave us any feedback. I also have included in the show notes how to schedule time with Danny. And if this is rousing something in you and you're interested in coaching with me or working with ThriveWorthy, I've included in the show notes how you can schedule a quick clarity call with me. It's complimentary, and I can tell you about all the ways that ThriveWorthy can support you. I'm now also offering a full-on career strategy session. It's 75 minutes, and you can sign up for that also through the link in the show notes. And that just gives people like an even fuller taste of what it's like to coach with me. I'm so grateful to be doing this work and would love to support you in whatever way feels aligned and authentic for you. Um, so with that, I hope you have a great day and be well. Cheers.