Human Design, Energy and Career Alignment with Breanna Owen

What if the way you have been trying to work, succeed and make decisions is not actually how you are wired?

Alicia sits down with human design and marketing expert, Breanna Owen, of Owen Your Mark to explore how understanding Human Design - your unique energetic blueprint - can shift how you approach your career, relationships and life.  

We break down Human Design and how to use it. You will learn about:

• The 5 energy types and how each one uses energy, makes decisions and moves through the world
• How to recognize when you are in alignment or not
• How signals like frustration, burnout or disappointment are information guiding you back to yourself

Whether you are feeling stuck, questioning what is next or simply wanting to understand yourself better, this episode gives you a new lens to work with your energy instead of against it.

Timestamps
00:01 Introduction and ThriveWorthy updates
04:27 What is human design
10:43 Breanna’s journey to this work
17:50 The five energy types explained
34:07 Alignment versus misalignment
52:10 Profile lines and your role in the world
59:56 Applying human design to career and business
01:02:56 Where to start if you are new

Key Takeaways

•  Human design is a blueprint for how you are wired to use your energy
•  Alignment feels like ease, satisfaction and flow
•  Misalignment shows up as frustration, burnout or emotional signals
•  Not everyone is designed for the same work style or pace
•  You are not broken, you may simply be out of alignment
•  Understanding your design helps you make more aligned decisions

How to Work With Breanna Owen of Owen Your Mark:

Breanna is an Email Marketing Strategist & Copywriter who helps service based entrepreneurs connect with their clients, using her expertise in marketing and human design.

Website: https://owenyourmark.com/

Services: https://owenyourmark.com/services/

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hi, everyone. It's Alicia. I'm so excited for you to listen to this episode with Brianna Owen from Owen Your Mark on human design. And if you've never heard of human design, I think this will be a really powerful episode for you. I wish I had known about human design years ago because it is a tool that provides insights that really can help you understand your energy, your life path, how you're meant to live and work. And I find it's even helpful in parenting to understand my daughter's human design and understand other people in my life and what their human design is as well. So I really hope you enjoy. I had my nieces and my daughter with me for Take Your Child to Work Day. So I had them do the recap or the outro at the end. It gets a little rough at the very end. So apologies, but they had a great time doing it. And I think they learned a lot about podcasting. And before we get into the episode, I also want to share a couple of things coming up from ThriveWorthy, which you might want to check out. The first is I'm having a free webinar on May 14th at 7.30 p.m. Eastern. It's called Ready for More. And if you are feeling a bit stuck or in the in-between, in that fog, knowing that you want to move on to something else in your career, your life, but not knowing what it is yet, then this free webinar is for you. It's for those people out there who've reached success, who are high achievers, who've done all the right things, but you're not feeling like everything's kind of aligned. You're not feeling like things are authentic. Things are just feeling a bit off. And so I'm going to go through kind of why that is, why you're feeling that way, and what you can do to start getting moving forward. The second thing I want to make you aware of is that I'm kicking off my next Pathfinder experience on May 19th. And this one I'm running like a boot camp. I really want to give people a quicker uh transformation and give people a real catalyst to start their growth journey before the summer starts, or I guess at the beginning of the summer. So this is going to be four weeks in a boot camp format, twice a week. You can click the link below for details. You can also register below for the webinar. And the first 10 people who sign up for the Pathfinder experience will get early bird pricing. So I highly recommend you check it out. Don't wait to get your spot. If you're ready to start something that's going to help you grow, help you look at life differently, help you rewire limiting beliefs and really jumpstart your growth. This is it.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

So with that, let's get into the episode and I hope you enjoy.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

I'm your host, Alicia D. And after over two decades as an executive in Human Resources, I learned that real success is both aligned and authentic, and it does not require self-abandonment. And now I help accomplished professionals create careers and lives that feel as good on the inside as they look on the outside. So in this podcast, each week, we'll explore a blend of neuroscience, psychology, and timeless spiritual wisdom, along with truly practical tools to help you create a life and career that are soul aligned. I'm so glad you're here because we are all worthy of thriving. And this podcast will give you the tools to do just that. Thanks for listening. Welcome back, everyone, to the Thrive Worthy Podcast, where soulful alignment meets career strategy. I'm your host, Alicia D, and I am thrilled to welcome Brianna Owen. Brianna is the founder of Owen Your Mark. She is a human design expert and a marketing expert. And I thought it would be really helpful to have her on because she just has this wonderful way of helping people get more grounded in their human design and also of helping them create marketing that really connects their business to the people they're trying to reach. And Brianna has done my human design reading, and we'll get into what that is. She's also been helping me do a reading for my business and understanding the energetics of my business. And when you hear the term human design, it might sound kind of like, okay, what is that? It sounds kind of generic actually, but I think this is gonna blow your mind. And there's so much wisdom in this, in understanding this, both for your career and your life. And so Brianna's gonna talk a little bit about how she got here and her own, you know, career change or kind of career evolution, but also then really go into how you can use human design, how you can think about that when you're thinking about your life and career, um, and what you need to know. So with that, welcome Brianna.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me, Alicia. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

So first, I think people will be curious about what is human design. So let's start there. And then I'd love to hear a bit about how you came to human design and how you, you know, more about your business, kind of how you help people. And then we'll go go deeper into the details. For sure. I'd love to people need to know why it's important.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

Yes. Human design is a really wonderful tool. It's a system. And the best way to kind of think about it is like it's a it's an energetic blueprint for how you are wired to show up, to make decisions, how to best use your energy. So it's, I know like people really love personality assessments and personality quizzes. And me too, like, yes, please, anything to help me better understand myself. But there is something so specific and just right about human design that it's it is less like how do you show up externally and how, and it's more how are you wired to operate like from the inside out?

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Yeah. And I can attest now that I understand my human design, just certain things make so much more sense. I wish I had had this tool years ago, both in terms of how I was showing up in different environments and what wasn't aligned, but also in terms of picking things that were more aligned. So we will definitely get more into that. Yeah. So and you mentioned personality assessments. How is human design different from personality assessments or astrology or other things like that?

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Well, so human design is a combination of like seven different systems, kind of like all layered together and working on top of each other for what? My absolute favorite thing about human design is that if you know your birth date, your birth time, and your birth location, that's it. That's all you that's all you need to know. There are not 85,000 questions that you have to answer. And it doesn't matter if you have had a snack or a nap recently, like you, your answers aren't going to change because it is just these pieces of data. And so I like because I when I was into the Enneagram, I for eight years I thought I was an Enneagram three. And then someone else who is an expert in the Enneagram was like, no, girl, you're an Enneagram four. And like, that's a lot of like those are different things. Those are very different things. Yeah. And so, and because like my questions could have changed, like how I answered those questions could have changed throughout, or like, what do I really think? And so I just love that I really get to take me out of it when it comes to human design. And I'm just giving three pieces of data, and those are the answers, and I can trust that and I can go with that. And it's to your point, like I tried to prove it wrong. I spent a few years trying to prove my human design wrong, and it was right at every freaking turn. So, and I personally think human design, human design is easier for me to understand than astrology. There's also when it comes to your human design, we're not looking at any sort of timing. Um, it just kind of this is who you are.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Oh, right. You're not looking at like cycles or where you are in a particular return or whatever. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I had my astrologist on last week. And so that makes sense. That is actually interesting. It's just this is just how you are. And yeah, that makes sense. Yes, yes. And I do I can relate with like how much easier it is in some some ways. It's very straightforward in some ways than the personality test. I actually just did the Herman brain dominance one last night and just had a report out on that. And that was very interesting and insightful. But as I was answering the questions, I was like, well, wait, am I this or am I that? And like and also I felt like if I had answered it four years ago, it would have been totally different. Yes. And I don't know that it would have been, in point of fact, but it's um that your example of the any agreement three or four, which they're totally different, you know, it's like, yeah. So, all right. So before we get more into human design, so you already said the the way you get it is your birth time, birthplace, and birthday. And so, and we'll go in through at the end how people can get their chart. Yeah. Um tell us how you came to human design, how you know, you're you've got this beautiful blend of human design and marketing, and you've built this business around it, which I think is quite unique. So tell us a little bit about what you were doing, then how you found it and how you got here.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Yeah, absolutely. So I went to, I was a stay-at-home mom for the first my first three babies. And when my three babies, how many babies do you have? I have four now. Okay. All right. Yeah. That's wonderful. Thank you. When my third was a was like six months old, I was like, I, because I had three babies in four years. And I was like, I need something for me, actually. I would like to do something for me. So I went, I had a jewelry business at the time, decided to go back to school for fashion because I really loved the work that I was doing with styling women and helping them be more confident. Be when you feel good about how you look, you just stand taller and you are more you.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

Which is a common theme I now see in my life. And so I went back to school for fashion. While I was in school for fashion, a marketing teacher came to me and was like, Did you know that if you take four more classes, you can have a marketing degree too? And I was like, done. Again, I thought I was an Enneagram three, and that felt very aligned. So I got my marketing degree, ended up having a marketing internship that was supposed to be a summer-long internship, but it lasted eight years. And in that process, the marketing business was born because fashion, my career path in fashion was going to be like I was an assistant manager for a retail store at our local mall. And I was just like, I don't want those hours.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Yeah. The lifestyle kind of yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Yeah. I didn't like working nights or weekends or holidays. Honestly, like there was all of my lost, all of my trust was lost one night when my husband was, I was working late and my I was like, Well, what are you gonna do with the kids? And he's like, I'm gonna take them to the ARL. That's an animal rescue league. And I was like, please don't. Please don't. And at the very least, please do not come back with a cat. And he was like, Okay, fine. So I get home that night after work and I'm like, how'd it go? And he's like, I did not come home with a cat. I was like, Oh, thank God. I came home with two cats. And I was like, and I can't work nights anymore. I've got to be able to be home.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

I really missed how who knows how many pets you'd have.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Yeah, right, exactly. So I pursued the marketing business and was doing digital marketing at the time. And really felt like um I was really great with clients, but also I felt like I was constantly trying to read their mind and guess what was going on with them. And I felt like I'm really great with these clients, but then how do I market this on my own? Like the whole like cobblemakers kids, you know, like they never have any shoes type of a thing.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yes, yes. And then and then this lovely thing, COVID happened.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Right. And all of a sudden I was home with, and my baby number four was born December of 2019. So I have all of a sudden come April of 2020, I have three kids, home, schooling, and a newborn and a business. And in that process, um, I found human design. And it was, I really do believe it was just like this divine timing and this divine tool. Because when my kids came home for school, I had my oldest is autistic. And now all of a sudden, his supports and his accommodations and everything were falling on me to fulfill. And so I went deep into research mode. I had been in research mode, but I'd been in research mode for school, not necessarily like how do I do school at home. And in the process of all this really deep research mode, I realized I was also autistic and I also am neurodivergent. And that rocked my world. And I started unmasking and I started just like removing all of these layers of who the world and my family and culture told me to be. And at the end of it, I was like, great, all of that's gone, but who am I? And this is where human design had been introduced into my life. And it was a tool that I used to really understand like, but who am I? Not who do other people tell me to be, not who do I think I should be, not who does the world want me to be, but like who am I truly, honestly, authentically? And it was so insightful for myself. I immediately looked up my husband, also like right on, immediately looked up my kids. Holy cow, that was crazy, especially for these little people who don't know their emotions and can't tell me certain things. Like, this makes so much sense now. And I quickly got to the point where it was like, okay, so if this is doing all these great things for me, it has saved me thousands of dollars in couples therapy and it's helping me in my parenting journey. Like, what can it do for my business? Like, what can it tell me for my business? And unfortunately, I spent several years asking that question and kind of looking for the answers because I I'm in marketing. I want to know like, what can it tell me about my marketing and my content? And I eventually asked the question enough time that I figured it out for myself. And that is how we got here.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

That's such a beautiful story. And I think that is something that is so powerful about human design. I mean, we're gonna look at it a little bit through the lens of what people need to know as they're thinking about their career and how they design their life. But the parenting thing is interesting too. We should do a whole separate episode on that. We have some pants, you know, like relationships and everything. Like I also have been like looking up everyone in my life's human design. And it's like, it's really insightful. I mean, it might I'm a generator. I know we're gonna get into this. So for those of you who are like, what the heck is that? Don't worry, we're about to get there. But I'm a gener generator. My daughter's a projector. And so just to understand that her energy is very different from mine, her life path is very different from mine. Um and while we might not get into all of this detail in this call, because there's so much to this, you know, things like how is she meant to eat? How what kinds of environments is she meant to be in? And it's just, it's really, it's very um, what's the right word? Comprehensive. And I certainly have found it to be pretty spot on. So that's such a beautiful story. And I love that because that's so motivating for people who either are like home with their kids trying to figure out what's next, you've built this beautiful business that's so aligned to who you are and what you wanted in your life. Like that is just such, you know, an expansion story for people. And to not, you know, lose heart. I mean, for you to do that with three young kids and four young kids, and then in the middle of COVID and all of that, like anything is possible. Right. So I love that. Okay, so let's go deeper on human design. So why don't you talk a little bit more about where do you want to start? With the energy types, is that the best place to start or how do you wanna yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Yeah. Yeah. So when somebody looks up their human design chart, if they are new to human design, it is going to look like ancient hieroglyphics. It is gonna look like a cave dwelling drawing. Like you are not gonna know this, and you are not meant to know it the first time you look at it. When you first get started with human design, there are two elements of your chart that are most talked about. They're the most like easy to grasp. And I really encourage not necessarily to try to understand human design holistically, but really just start with your design. Like if you can get grounded in, oh, this is what this means for me, that is the best place to start. So the two biggest pieces that are most commonly talked about, and the info is out there are your energy type and your profile line. So there are five energy types. There, do you want me to go into them right now? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

It'd be great. And it'd be great if you just say a little bit about each one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Yeah. Perfect. I can do that. So there are five energy types. There are two ways to categorize energy types. We have sacral energy types and we have non-sacral energy types. Sacral energy types are, like Alicia, you mentioned, being a generator, or the other sacral type is a manifesting generator. I call the many gens for short. Now, sacral types make up about 70% of the global population. So I am a pure generator. Alicia's a generator. If you find out that you are a generator or a manifesting generator, like, yeah, 70% of us are. Like that is a very common thing to be. So generators and many gens, their sacral energy makes them doers and builders. We are the life force people. We are the ones out there doing the things, building the things. We have almost like almost like endless energy for the things we love to do, the things that bring us joy and bring us satisfaction. We could do them all the time. If there's something we don't love to do, it feels a lot like pulling teeth to make it happen. And so if you are a generator or a many gen, like really paying attention to that, paying attention to what brings you satisfaction. Um, the things that are different about generators and many gens, a generator moves in a very linear, logical fashion. We like to go do things in order. We like, we like to follow the steps the way they are laid out. We like to do things from the bottom up, like or, you know, we just like to do things in order. A generator or a manifesting generator does not necessarily need to do things in order. They like to skip around. They like to pivot, they like to do see-do and cha-cha- slide to the right, and they they do things in the order that feels good to them, and it doesn't really make sense to the rest of us.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Like You know, the funny thing is that sounds more like me in some ways than uh generate. I mean, I don't know that I'm step by step all the time, but actually, that's just kind of interesting. Well, your business is a manny gen, remember. Oh, maybe that makes sense then. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so they like to do si do, cha-cha, left, right. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So they're not gonna go about things in order. They're gonna get it all done. They're gonna get everything they need to get done, but they're they uh are gonna take their own way about it. And they are the express builders and doers, so they like to move quickly. They don't really get stuck because they're so good at pivoting. And it's really good for them to, like in my and the work that I do whenever I have a client who's a manage in, I was like, great, how can we make you an email template? How can we, how can we give you like a jumping off point? So you're not building from scratch every time, but rather you're two steps ahead before you even get started. So theirs um our our sacral types, our non sacral types. We have projectors are about 20% of the population, which you mentioned your daughter is. I have two daughters who are projectors. I feel you there. Projectors are our advisors and guides. They can see things that we cannot, the rest of us just cannot see. Um Um, they they can see the writing on the wall. They can see the train coming down the tracks. Projectors have to be invited in. So if a projector shares their opinion or their insight without it being asked of them, it doesn't ever go well. It just does it doesn't land well. So projectors have to be invited to share their insight, their guidance, their advice. They do not have that sacral energy to go, go, go all the time. So projectors need a lot of rest. They just do, and they are waiting for the invitation and they are chasing these feelings of success. Like what makes them feel successful on like a cellular level? It isn't always materialistic. It can be like I did the thing and it wasn't perfect and it wasn't, you know, it it didn't bring in a million bucks, but I feel really good about the fact that I just completed the thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah. One one thing I just want to add on the projector thing, because I thought this was interesting. I have a cousin and we did her profile and she's a projector. And that whole thing about being invited was so eye-opening to her because I think she was like, oh my gosh, there's so many situations in my life where I can see the thing. And so then I'm trying to give someone advice, but I wasn't asked for that advice. I wasn't invited in. And so it just falls flat or worse. Yep. And so I think that's the thing that's so interesting. And you didn't hit on it, but I think the for generators at least, there's a whole thing around responding, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Yes. Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

So talk just mention that first.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

Yeah. Thank you for that. That reminder. Generators and manifesting generators are meant to respond to external, their external environment. So something will come at us that feels like a request for our energy. Um, and then we this the sacral is a yes-no. There are there's another element of like, how much of a yes does it need to be for you? But essentially, like we are listening to our sacral energy, yes or no, when a request comes at us or when something in our external environment we we respond to it with this yes or no. Do I want to engage? Do I not want to engage?

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Right. And that sacral response is like in your body. Yes. Right? Like it is physical.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Sometimes it's a gut feeling. Sometimes it's vocal. It's an uh-huh or an uh. I was my husband and I were in church a couple months ago, and he was like, Hey, here are the seats that I picked out for us. And I was like, absolutely not. Like that's way too close to the front. I like sitting more in the back. And I literally growled. Like it was a it was an audible when I saw the chair. Like when I saw where he picked out seats, and I was like, Oh, that's a sacral, that's a sacral no.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

That's a that's a sacral no to my external environment that I am responding to here. So sometimes it's it's an ooh, ooh, ooh, you know, sometimes it's vocal, sometimes it's physical, like your body expands or contracts, and sometimes like it's just like this feeling in your gut.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

And is that the same for many gens? They have that sacral response also. Okay, so we got the two with the sacral response generators, many gens. Then we've got the projectors, they've got a smaller battery, but they see things like from upon high, for lack of a better way of seeing it. Yeah. And they need to be invited. Yes. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

And then we've got manifestors who are 9% of the population. Manifestors are our initiators and they initiate and inform, they trailblaze. They don't need to wait, they don't need anything to respond to externally, and they don't need to ask permission from anybody. Like they don't need anybody for anything. They want to do it, they're gonna go do it. They're just going to it's like whatever pops into their head and like go. They initiate, they just know and do, they know where to go, they know what to do. Much like projectors, manifestors do not have that builder-doer energy. So it's really important for manifestors to bring people along with them to help build and do this idea that they have, this thing that they are initiating, this trail that they are are blazing. So it's helpful to have projectors to come in and guide it. Okay, this is the thing that's gonna happen. This is the thing I want to make happen. What's the best way to make this happen? Thank you, projectors. Okay, great. This is the best way to make it happen. Now I need people to do the thing and build the thing. Generators and managents, where are you at? Like, would you come with me? So manifestors are initiate and inform. And it's both of those things are very important for them because if they initiate without informing, people don't know what's going on. People don't know. Like, I always say you you inform so that people can get out of the way or get on board. Like, what which is it?

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Inform, meaning have to share what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

They have to here's what's happening, here's what's going on, which provides this external thing for generators of managements to respond to and it provides an invitation for projectors to say yes or no to, because it's an invitation can be a no. Just because you were invited projectors does not mean you have to say yes. Right, right. I love that. You can decline thusly.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

I just like little tangent. You know, so my daughter, I don't know that this is because she's a projector at all. I think this is just her personality, but like no is like Teflon to that child. Like, I don't know, like it's like not in her vocabulary. And so I've gotten used to now saying, like, you know, just your point, you can say no. No is a complete sentence, Isla. Like, yes, my no is sacred. When I say that to her, she looks at me, but she sort of knows, like, okay, I can't keep pushing her. Because otherwise, when she hears no, she goes this way, she goes that way. She like tries to convince me in lots of different ways. Like, she literally will make a great salesperson because she thinks that the sale begins with the first no, but anyhow, that's what's her profile? Uh, I have to remember, she might be a 3-1. Does that make sense? She's not, I'm a four-six, she's not that.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Um I have to double check, but she's something I think there's something about learning through trial and error and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I said that. And then the last one.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

The last one are reflectors. Reflectors are less than 1% of the population. So if you you have been adding up like what are the percentages, we are down to like less than 1%. And that is our reflectors. They are rare, beautiful unicorns. Reflectors are reflectors reflect. So think of them like a mirror. Reflectors are, they are society's mirrors. If you think about it, none of us can see ourselves well without a mirror. We have to have some sort of a reflective surface to be able to know what we look like and to know what's going on with us. And reflectors do that for the population, for their people, for their community and their industry. So they aren't really, they're not really advising. They're not really guiding. They are not building or doing. They are not initiating. They are just saying, hey, here's here's what I see happening. Here's what's going on. Um, they're like the instrument panel of our society because they they are not the fuel gauge or the tank itself. They they are not the actual engine running. They're just letting you know, hey, it looks like you need more fuel in this thing, or like, hey, that that engine's not working. Go check that out, right? So, what's interesting about reflectors is that they have to wait a whole lunar cycle for things. So a lunar cycle is 28 days. And so they take their time, they are sampling all of this energy all over the place every day for about 28 days, and then they can go, like, ah, here's what I'm noticing. Like, here's here's what is happening. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

So they have to like observe for 28 days and then they can say then they can reflect. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

I have a good friend who's a reflector.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

And I think she sometimes acts like a generator. Yeah, sometimes. So she like so sometimes it's like I'm amazed with her energy, but I also think she like burns out from it.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Yep. Because reflectors act like all of the other four types at any point in those 28 days.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Right. And she also sometimes has difficulty, she's also sometimes like feels like she doesn't know herself or like know what she likes or things like that sometimes. And I always wondered if that's partly to do with the reflector because she's so her design is to reflect to other people. And so it's like, how do you embrace that more fully? Um to step into that and be in alignment with that.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

Yeah. I so I have a client who's a reflector, and I always tell her, like, I encourage her, especially because she has a two-line in her profile. I encourage her to just start each day and go, where's my energy at today? What, what do I, what do I have the energy for today? What does my energy feel like today?

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

And just like start each day that way and then go forward. Because there are days where you have a ton of energy, but that's not every day. That's not consistent.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Right?

SPEAKER_02 31:31

I think that's the key. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:33

Yeah. And reflectors are so impacted by their external environment because they're constantly sampling. And so it's like, you know, taking, especially for a reflector, take a look at what is your ideal environment and take a look at um how do you feel in the environment? Because if it doesn't feel right, like go to a different and you change your external environment, change the room you're in, change the people you're around. Like you got to do something different.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

But like the hallmark thing that makes a reflector a reflector is that all of their centers within their body, there are nine centers on the human design chart, all of theirs are open or undefined. And open and undefined centers are where it's like a door. So on one hand, it's where we can, we're most the most susceptible to conditioning from the outside world. We don't have consistent access to that energy. We're we're the most susceptible to conditioning from others, but it's also where we have the most opportunity for wisdom. We can be the most insightful.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

And so we're more flexible when it's open, is that what you mean? Like opportunity for wisdom because you're more open to seeing things differently.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Yeah. You're not like if you have consistent access to something that is just the way that it is for you. Like you you just have that thing and you don't really know any different. Where if if it's undefined, you have inconsistent access, which is not the same as no access, right? Like you can feel it at times, but you just don't always feel it. So yeah, you you can see it and you can understand it from multiple points of view.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Right, right. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. And then I know you've talked before about like well, let me back up. We've talked when we talked about my home design about the whole not self-theme, or like, how do you know you're not in alignment? So can you just quickly go through each one? Like, how do you know you're not in alignment? Because the interesting thing about the whole generator thing and being a generator, just to give some life to this, is I feel like for all my years in corporate, being a generator like was a good thing for me and a good thing for the company in the sense that I had a lot of energy. You know, I was certainly a workaholic at points, like I worked really hard, but it was also really depleting for me at times because I was, I felt like I kept needed to keep going, going, going, but I wasn't always doing stuff that was like actually that interesting to me. And so I think I don't know. I think it's just interesting for you to talk a little bit about like, so those are the energy types. And how do you know if you're in alignment, not a lot in alignment?

SPEAKER_03 34:16

Yeah. Well, to your point, like one of the simplest best ways is what we would call self-theme or not self-theme. So generators and and manifesting generators, their self-theme is satisfaction. And so it is when it's so important to listen to that sacral and what excites you, like what oh yes, I want to do that. That sounds good to me. And if it's a no, no, thank you, like being able to say no thank you where you can. So we want to chase that that satisfaction, that joy that really lights you up. They're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

And by the way, sometimes people think something like that is selfish, but it's not. Because this is all about how you can show up in the best possible way and bring your be a blessing to others, right? So be in your brilliance. So this is super important for people to realize like it's not a nice to-do to follow your satisfaction. This is how you as a human are going to show it best in this world.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Right. Because if somebody asks you to do something and you are saying yes out of obligation, out of duty, out of responsibility, and you're not excited about it, you're not doing them any favors. You're not doing them any favors by bringing the minimum possibility and option to them. Like they would be so much better served if you say no, because there's somebody out there who is excited about this thing. Right. That is lit up about it, that would be like find joy and satisfaction in it. And you're depriving them of that opportunity if you say yes to something that you don't want to do.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

And I love that you made that point. And I think that's really important for our listeners because how many times have we each, you know, and this is for our listeners too, like said yes to something when we really don't want to do it, and because we feel like it's an obligation or feel like we're gonna disappoint someone or whatnot. But the wisdom that you've insigned would be, and this is just wisdom generally, but would be if that doesn't feel aligned for you, if it doesn't feel like a yes, then you're not the best person to do it. Right. And you're actually blocking them from finding the best solution by saying yes. So you're not doing them any favors and you're not doing yourself any favors. Nope. I think that's a really important thing for people to think about. And that's not just for generators though, right? Or many generators, that's just all of the types.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Or I mean, yeah, if you think about it in a certain way, it looks or feels a little bit different for projectors, manifestors, and reflectors. But that same idea of like if you're not, if you don't feel called to it, doing something out of duty and obligation just isn't great energy. It just doesn't feel good for anyone and it doesn't serve people well. And it's like there's a reason it's a no for you. Even if you don't understand it, even if you don't know it, even if you really wish it could be a yes, like if it's a no, it's a no. And at some point, like, will you just trust that and see what happens?

SPEAKER_02 37:19

Yeah, and I love that because I think for the for people who are just learning this, like learn your human design and then just tap into listening and learning to trust that and just see what happens. Like see how life changes, flows, is easier, gets more aligned when you tap into that and listen.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Yeah. Yeah. I think of the line from legally blonde, like happy people don't kill their husbands, they just don't. Like Oh my God, that's awesome. Right? Like just how much better life will be. If you just enjoyed what you were doing and how you were doing it.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

I don't mean to go up on a tangent, but like it's part of also like knowing who you are, accepting who you are as you are. Yeah. And not trying to be someone else. Correct. And so this is a tool to help you tap into that in a different kind of way. But at the core, I think, you know, that's partly what we're talking about. Yeah. Um so okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

So I will say I going back to it though, I will say there are times for generators and manifesting generators where at the end of the day, we're adults and sometimes we have to do adult things that are just not fun. Like I wish I didn't have to do certain things that that don't bring me joy. They're not my favorite, and we have to do them anyway.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Yeah. Personal admin, all that stuff. I'm like, I procrastinate, I'm terrible at. It just does not come naturally to me. But you gotta do it.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Right. And we do our best. You know, that could be insight as to like where should you offboard, or how can you, how can you not have to do it? Or the other thing would be like, okay, I have to do this thing that I don't enjoy doing. What would make it fun? Is there a way that I can bring some satisfaction into it? Kid, I don't like doing my personal admin, but you know, maybe it'll suck a little bit less if I do it from my favorite coffee shop. Or what can you do to make it more fun? The other thing that's really cool about generators and many gens is you have full permission to play before you work. Play first.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Play first.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Play first. Because it because why? Why play first? Because if you are fueling yourself with that joy and that satisfaction, then you have something to pour from, especially when you're doing like a non-preferred or undesirable task. And then you gotta sandwich it. So after you do the thing, because you were pouring out joy that you didn't necessarily have, you've got to replenish that. So you need to sandwich an undesirable or non-preferred task with something satisfaction or like joy and exciting before and after.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

I think that's super interesting. And since so much of the population are generators or manifesting generators, I think that's a great point to just really focus on. I know for myself as a generator, I I don't know how much of this is generator-esque or just my personality or me. But I hate personal admin. I also have ADHD. So I get bored easily with certain things. I hate personal admin, I hate doing laundry, I hate tidying stuff. Like, yep. But if I go do something first, and I didn't clue into this until I understood more about the human design. I mean, I probably knew it on some level, but I it makes more sense now that I understand human design. Now you understand the why of it. Yeah. But if I go do something that fills my tank first or kind of like charges my battery, then I'm more able to do it, not feel the dread of doing it and not procrastinate as much. And it just goes more easily. Like if I go work out or do something that kind of like connects my energy in a certain kind of way, then I come home and I'm able to tidy and put in a load of laundry and it's like easier. If I don't, I'm looking at it and feeling crappy because I'm not doing it. And I still just don't do it. But like, you know, so I don't know. And you still feel crappy. Yeah, you still feel crappy and nothing happens. So it's like to know that like generators and and manifesting generators, right? Like play first. So go do the thing that fuels your energy. Know that you have to come back to the thing that doesn't, right? But you're gonna be able to do it more easily if you charge your battery first.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

I don't want to eat the frog first. You don't have the energy to eat the frog first. I would like to not eat the frog at all, actually. And if I absolutely have to eat the frog, I better have a big old cup of ranch. But I will be starting with I I will not be starting with the frog first. Thank you very much. Yeah. And it that I I understood that so much more when I was like, oh, it's because I'm a generator. Yeah. This makes so much more sense now. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Okay. So generators and managing, not self or self-theme is satisfaction. Yes. How do we know that we're not aligned or not?

SPEAKER_03 42:15

Frustration. Okay. Frustration is the red flag or orange flag or whatever for generators and many gens. Frustration isn't bad. It's just a signal. It's a sign that something somewhere and all of this is out of alignment. I know that you and I, no, well, your business has a five line and I have a five line. Five lines tend to say, they tend to say yes or feel the pressure to say yes. People please more often than some other types. So, you know, for a generator or a manny gen, most likely there's something in there that you said yes to that you did not really want to say yes to. Um, there might be something else going on, the way you're going about it. You know, if if a manny gen is just like trying to lean in and get something done and figure it out, frustration might show up because manny gens are meant to pivot. Um and a generator might feel some frustration because they're pivoting too much. Like I noticed this the other day, I think it was like Saturday morning. I was starting to get really frustrated and I was like, whoa, okay, I'm really frustrated right now. What's going on? And I stopped for a minute and then I was like, I'm doing too many things at once. I don't, I don't do, I don't multitask well. I don't pivot well. And I was like, ah, that's what's happening. And so I was like, I'm going to finish this. And when a kid tried to come in and talk to me, I was like, I need you to wait. I need to finish this and then I will come talk to you. Because I was like, ah, that's what's happening here. So it's just a signal for you to stop and be like, okay, what's going on? Let's take notice where where's the frustration coming from? And what would help me not to feel frustrated?

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Great. Okay. So generators, managents, self theme is satisfaction. That's how you know you're aligned. Not self theme is frustration. That's how you know you're not aligned. Pay attention. Yeah. So that you can figure out what are you saying yes to or no to or whatever that you need to adjust or benefit from adjusting. Okay. All right. So what's next? Projectors.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

Projectors, um, their self-theme is success, and their not self-theme is bitterness. So success is again that cellular feeling of success, what makes you feel successful. Projectors really love recognition. Like they just really want to be recognized. And that that helps them to feel success. A lot of time projectors need to start with their own self-recognition. They have to be the ones to say, hey, this is what I'm doing and this is where I'm at, and this is what's going on with me, and this is what I'm good at, so that other people can see them and also recognize it and then invite them in.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Okay. So that's interesting. So that's like, so them understanding the importance of recognizing themselves first and noticing themselves first. And then because that's going to put them in a position where then they're, I guess, projecting, for lack of a better word, themselves out, their strengths out, whatever, their capabilities. And then people can see them and invite them in.

SPEAKER_03 45:09

Yep. So they're going for that feeling of success. Again, it's not always materialistic. It's not always it, it can be internal. It can be just the sense of like, I feel good, I feel accomplished. So I have two daughters who are projectors. And there are times where I'm like, well, what would make you feel the most successful right now? What would make you feel like the best question? The best about this, you know, when it comes to their their homework or their whatever. Like, okay, well, what would what would make you feel like this was a huge win for you or a win for you at all? Right. They're they're not self, it shows up as bitterness. And bitterness is one of those of like, okay, but what does that mean? And I think people kind of define it a little bit differently. What I've noticed the most, especially with my my own daughters, and this holds true for other projectors as well, is bitterness can feel like the sense of rejection and betrayal.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

Hmm. Interesting. And it starts, bitterness starts to breed like a little bit of resentment.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

And so however you, if you are a projector, like you've just got to figure out what does bitterness mean and feel for you, even if you would call it something else or whatever. And again, it's not a bad thing. It's just a sign that something isn't going right. Almost always for my daughters, when they start reacting in a way that their resentment is showing or their bitterness is showing, I'm like, ooh, what weren't they invited into? What did they do anyway that there wasn't an invitation for?

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Yeah. My daughter's only eight. I can see this playing out in her. And I wouldn't have had the words before or the framework to understand it. But she is, you know, she has all these ideas and strong opinions, and she's always trying to dictate everyone's play, or like she she is guessing is coming up with ideas and wanting to orchestrate everything. But her bitterness comes in when she's trying to tell everyone, let's do this or you do that or whatever, and they don't want to listen to her. And she wasn't invited in. Like, you know, so then they're calling her bossy, or they're calling her, you know, or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

But that's so interesting. Now, projectors can ask for the invitation. Waiting for the invitation is not like I've just got to sit here and do nothing. Projectors, one, can be visible. Can people they they have to be seen? And then people can be like, oh you, could you please come help over here and do this thing? Please bring that over here, right? But also projectors can ask for the invitation. They could say something like, Hey, can I share something with you? Hey, I have an idea. Would you like to hear it? You know, I have I have an idea for how we could all play together. Could I share that before we begin?

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Yeah. Right? They can And that's empowering because they can do something about that. Now, is there anything about projectors and like wanting to be on stage? Or like, you're is that not a part of this? Like our projectors, you say being visible, but that doesn't necessarily mean like they have to be on a stage or visible in certain kinds of ways. It just means whatever in their corner of the world, however they're doing it.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

Yeah. I mean, there are other elements within human design, as as you know, because we've had several conversations together about, you know, are you observed or are you an observer? Your your profile lines can come into play here. Like that brings another energy, another spice to your whole chart. Um there, I sometimes we'll talk about projectors in the sense of like there's no such thing as an underground McDonald's. McDonald's are just there. And their golden arches glow, right? Like they're visible. And people drive by if they don't want anything from McDonald's, and they pull in and order their milkshake if the ice cream machine isn't broken, if they do want something from McDonald's, right? But the McDonald's is just there. And so, in the same kind of sense, like projectors need to be visible, but they're not that doesn't always mean they're the they're flailing around and like trying to get attention. Got it. Okay. They're just doing their thing. Now, some personality types, there might be some other energy in here that's like, you like a stage.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

And there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

But it's not necessarily just because they are a protector. Got it. All right. All right. So then we have manifestors. Yes, manifestors, their self-theme is peace, and their not self-theme is anger. So manifestors need to feel just this sense of like just innate peace. I feel nope, I feel good about this. I feel good about moving forward with this. I feel good about initiating and trailblazing in this way. It is not going to make sense to other people. And that's totally fine if they have this sense of peace about it. But their not self-theme is anger. And like when they get angry, that is their sign to pay attention. What? Where maybe they have initiated but not informed. Maybe they are waiting for permission when they don't need to. Right. Maybe they are holding back in a way that it's not meant for them. Like that's not how the role they're supposed to play in the world. Maybe there's something in there with their profile line that is showing up where they are operating out of alignment with that. Like just pay attention as a manifestor when you feel angry. Okay. All right. And then last one, reflectors. Reflectors, their self-theme is like awe or delight. And their not self-theme is disappointment. And so when they are out there reflecting, right, and they are sampling the energies, when they are just in this sense of like awe and surprise and delight of what they're seeing, like that feels good to them. And when they go through experiences where and they were just really disappointed at the end of it, like that's a sign that something somewhere was out of alignment for them. And I've I've walked through this with a client of mine who's a reflector. And she went through something and she was like, gosh, she was just really discouraged and disappointed when she was telling me about it. And I was like, what about this was discouraging for you? And what we came to realize was like she was bending certain boundaries to try to make other people happy. And in the end, like it didn't go well. And she was just disappointed, one, that it didn't go well, and two, because she knew it wasn't gonna go well. And I was like, Yeah, because you were bending your boundaries. And so like that was misalignment for you. But now, because I was like, oh, disappointment is a clue here. Let's take a closer look at that. So that's what it looks like for reflectors to follow their their self-theme and pay attention to their not self-theme.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

Okay. Super interesting. Now you've mentioned a few times profile lines. So do you want to just briefly hit on that? And we can't go up through all of them. We will not like maybe just like what is why do people care about that? Yeah. Your Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Your profile line is your public role. It's like the role you're meant to play in the world. So your energy type is the energy that you bring to things. Your profile line is like what we expect from you from your role from your position. So there are six profile lines, but they're there are always two lines together. So there are 12 combinations of lines of options. And whatever number is first is the number that you are most aware of. And whatever number is second is the number that you are not as aware of in yourself, but other people really see this in you. So, like you mentioned earlier, um, why is my mouse not working? That's not fun. I'm a four-six. Thank you. I was I had your business one pulled up.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

I'm a five, I think my business might be a five-one.

SPEAKER_03 53:10

You're a five-one, yes, because your business and I have the same profile line. That's how I remember that one. Uh, okay. But your personal um is that four six. So your four line is this natural networker connector. You are very people-oriented, you are very relationship-driven. And in fact, like your internal network, your inner circle of people are where most of your opportunities come from, personally, right? Because we're not talking about the business right now, we're talking about you personally. So, jobs, relationships, like even if you need a new vacuum, you are not likely to go out and research vacuums. You are more likely to go ask people, like, hey, do you have a vacuum you love? What what vacuum is it?

unknown 53:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

If you do find yourself on the internet looking at something, you're gonna scroll to the reviews. You wanna see what other people have to say about it. Like you really don't care any about anything else. What are other people saying, right? Doesn't everybody do that though? No. Not like a four-line does.

SPEAKER_02 54:08

Okay, well, I do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

Yeah. Yeah. And then your your six, the sixth half of your profile is the living role model. So a six-line fit spends the first 30 years of its life in trial and error mode of bumping into things, of figuring out what works and what doesn't work. Like you get some hands-on experience. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, those first 30 years. And then you sp you between 30 and 50, you kind of take this step back and you start going, what did I learn? What did I experience? You really become this objective observer and make meaning out of what you just spent the those 30 years or you know, further as you get closer to 50. What what was the point of all of that? What was the lesson in there? Like what I want to figure it out. And then 50 on is really when six lines are embodying this living role model because they gone through it, that they done the thing, and they understand. They make meaning out of what they experienced. And people really seek out six lines for their wisdom and their insight because they lived it. This is not textbook, this is not theory, this is this is lived wisdom. If you think of the six profile lines as kind of like an apartment building, one is the foundation. We move up. Six is at the rooftop, right? So sixes give us our bird's eye view. They can see the 35,000-foot view, they can see the big picture. And so I really love that you do what you do, even though this is your personal chart and not your business chart, because you bring your living role model, like embodied wisdom to what you do. You've you've gone through it, you've done the corporate thing, you did the job, and then like you've learned, you've tried the things, you've taken out the wisdom from it. And now people are seeking you out and you're sharing that wisdom with others. Like it's just so cool. And I know we've talked, like, you get you do get a lot of your clients and you do get a lot of your connections from referrals, from word of mouth, because a four line is not meant to take their message out into the world. Their four line is meant to share their message with their internal network, and those people take it out into the world on your behalf. So I know that didn't go through all the six types, but like just seeing what it looks like to you personally.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

And so just to give an example, like what are, you know, so that's four and six without going through all the combinations. What are like, what are like one, two, three, so a one line is our name, right?

SPEAKER_03 56:50

Yeah, yeah. Well, yes. And it depends on how you look them up. A one line is your expert, your authority. Again, they set the foundation. One lines really love to research, they really love to learn, and they're really good at teaching because and this is hard for me to realize, 'cause my personally I have a one line, is that not everybody loves the research. Like I'm just, I'm the only, I think I have one daughter with a one line in my house. But I'm usually like, people will ask me something, and I'm like, that sounds like a great question for Google. Like, or people will be like, How did you look that up? How do you know that? And I was like, I looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

What do you mean? Like, what up? You don't know something, so you just sit in the not knowing? Absolutely not. No. So that's like, that's a one line. A two line is our is a hermit. They're known as a hermit because our two lines are our natural talents. And they are really good at whatever it is they're good at. That doesn't mean they don't need any sort of formal teaching. They might still go to school, they might still receive some training, but they just like pick up on it really, really well. And two lines like to go into their little hermit cave to get good at their skill or their craft. Interesting. And so two lines need a lot of alone time as well. Two lines need people to kind of encourage them to come out of their cave and share their talents with the rest of us. Three lines are our trial and error. They are the experimenters. They are getting their hands in it. Like what works, what doesn't work. Three lines are here to teach us that failure is not the end of the story. That guess what? Like it didn't work. Um, that's just information. That's all that is. We can keep going. We can try again. We can do it a little differently. And so we really love our three lines for that because the rest of us get all caught up in the fact of like, oh my gosh, it didn't go the way I thought it was gonna go and it it failed. Like, oh, and three lines are like, okay. And let's let's go get. So I love that about our three lines. They call out the BS really, really well as well. Um, we've mentioned four lines. Five lines are our bold visionaries. They're our fix-it people, actually. So people project onto a five line that the five line will be able to solve all their problems. And so people come to a five line and they're like, you can do this for me, right? Like you can handle this, you can fix this. And so, especially if a five line is uh sacral type, like we gotta tap into that sacral energy of do they want to solve that problem and bring that solution? And do they want to do it in the way that is being asked of them? So five lines really got to work on their boundaries. But fives are like, because they are so practical solution oriented, they tend to be very like bold visionaries as well of like, this is what's gonna happen, this is what we can do, this is what's gonna fix it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

That's super helpful. And, you know, we mentioned it, but just to make sure people got this. Like, if you have a business, you can look up the human design for your business. So when Brianna said that to me, I was like, what? What she did my own reading, which is a four or six, and then she did my business, which I think is a five, one, and I'm still learning exactly what that means. Yeah. And why is this important? This is important because all of this is a tool to help you be more aligned and authentic. Yeah. And in ways that you may not have even realized were authentic. Maybe on some level you did, but this gives you more of a framework, a structure, a language around it to help lean into that more. And so whether it's for yourself, whether it's for understanding people you love or your kids, or whether it's figuring out your business, your messaging, how to reach the people you're meant to reach, all of this gives insight in terms of what is aligned and authentic. That's a fair way to say it, right, Brianna?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

Yeah, absolutely. And my husband, my husband's in corporate. And we, I very much use this with him all the time. I I mean, obviously, like there are so many applications that I can use this in business and like entrepreneurship type of a thing. But even if any of your listeners are in a corporate or in a nine to five type of a role, like this is still so applicable because if if there's something that you're not enjoying or it's not going well, like you're not broken. Right. Like there, there's nothing wrong with you. And I need you to hear that so very clearly because there's those are clues that your body, your system, your the universe is trying to give you so that you can do something about it. And if you are just really loving life and things are going so well for you, this system gives you the insight as to like what and why, so that you can duplicate that on purpose. And it doesn't have to be like random luck.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:50

Right. You know, I love that you mentioned corporate because one, I wish I knew this when I was in corporate. Two, obviously, this is not a tool, I think, yet that's being used in corporate, but I personally think it should be. And if I, you know, I was managing teams and working with different people. If I understood more about their human design and their profile file lines and different things like that, I mean, wow. I mean, my mind would be blown. Like that would just make life so much easier. Yep. And so I think there's a lot of really interesting practical applications to this. And I would just encourage everybody to, you know, check it out, learn more about it, and see what it does for you. So, what else do people need to know? We've covered a lot. It's a lot to digest. What else would you say to, you know, the person who's hearing this for the first time or is pretty new to human design? And anything in particular that you haven't already said that you'd say around career? Like how can people use this if they're feeling stuck in their career or if they're not sure where to go next?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:51

Yeah. Well, if you don't have your human design chart yet, I would definitely encourage you to look it up. And I would encourage you to, again, it can be so overwhelming in the beginning. And so just give yourself time and space to do a little bit at a time. Even just knowing your energy type and knowing, you know, are you sacral or non-sacral? Are you? Because if you're non-sacral, the thing, one of the things that we haven't said is like, if you're non-sacral, 40-hour work week isn't your favorite. Projectors can get more energy. Yeah. Projectors can get more done in less time. They don't need 40 hours to get it done. A manifestor is going to have like a nuclear blast of creative energy, and then they're going to have a long period of rest. Like it just how they show up at work looks very different than their sacral counterparts. And so, like, even just knowing that and understanding that and being able to work with that is powerful and effect, like impactful. So, like, give yourself time and a chance to take it slow.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

I also just want to, you mentioned the chart and the hydroglyphics, or like it looks the human design chart, does like like it looks overwhelming. You look at it and you're like, what is this? Yeah. So don't worry about it. No. Like start with the basics. Like you said, the energy, what's the profile line? I think we haven't talked about decision-making authority, but that's probably like a helpful thing. But if you even just do those three things, you're going to be gaining insights. And then there are tons of books, tons of tools, and people like Brianna out there who can interpret it for you or help you understand it better.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:27

Absolutely. I do one-on-one sessions all the time for people of just like, what's this mean? I often will look at it. Um, again, there's so much more we can look at, but I I look at like, how is your business meant to make money? Like, what, where is your energy best used? What type of offers? What type of services? How do you show up? How do you, who is it that you're talking to? And how do you talk to your ideal audience? What is your motivation? We did like that's a whole other conversation. But like, what is your motivation? And how does that impact what you say and how you say it and get people to take the action that you are wanting them to take?

unknown 1:05:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

And I think it also has ramifications. This is just coming to me, so this is not thought out, but like, I wonder, I should really incorporate this into like our Pathfinder experience, the Pathfinder experience that we run through Thriveworthy or things because like it could just have such an implication to your personal branding. Like so forget if you have your own business, but just your personal branding and how you show up authentically and how you're talking about yourself because this is just who you are. Yeah. You know, and the more aligned and authentic you are, the more you are going to have the impact you're meant to have in this life.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:38

Yes. That's why my business is called Own Your Mark. You know, it's a play on your ow in.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Yeah, I love that. Owen your mark.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:45

I play on my last name. When I was doing a jewelry business, it was Owen Your Style because I wanted people to really own their style. And so it just made sense to bring it to this work of like mark and marketing, your mark in the world, like your thumbprint, like all of it. Like just Be just be you, be the fullest, most authentic expression of who you are meant to be. That's how you're going to make the difference and the impact that you're meant to make. I love that. I think there was something else that I was going to say. My brain just lost it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

Well, we were talking about decision-making authority and you mentioned motivation. So I think, I mean, we talked about, and we'll put in the show notes how can you get a human design chart? How can you connect with Brianna? But the personal branding of it all.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

Oh, yeah, the personal branding. Yeah, I mentioned that. I mean, that that premise is the whole reason why I was like, no, but what can my chart tell me about my business and how I show up and my messaging and my marketing and my content and all of that? So a hundred percent like, because projectors are going, their branding is going to be and feel very different than, you know, a generator or a manifesting generator. A manifesting generator is multi-passionate and multifaceted. They one of the worst things that we can do to a manny gen is try to get them to niche down too much and get it stay in one lane. That's not a manny gen. Right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

Like a many gen needs to be able to be like, nope, I like all of these things. But you were saying a manny gen needs to be able to be multipassionate and multifaceted.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:32

They need to be able to like be like, I no, I like all these things and not put them in a box. So yeah, it a thousand percent is applicable to a personal brand or a business brand.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

Yeah. Yeah. I think the other thing too is that if I had understood more about this, when at the points in my career when I was starting to feel really burnt out, I think I would have been able to like, for lack of a better word, diagnose that faster or understand that and get myself out of it faster. So if anyone's in that situation and kind of again feeling stuck or feeling burnt out or whatnot, then this could be just the tool you need right now to help gain some insight um as to what to do next. So, okay, anything else, Brianna? Anything else you would say on human design or any of this? This is so great. I'm so excited that you were able to join because I just think this is such a powerful tool that so many people don't know about. And I'm really passionate about helping people understand it.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:35

Same. We have already shared a lot, and I do not want to overwhelm and cause anyone to like not pursue it. So I would say if there's any curiosity or interest, just to take the next step. Look at your chart, digest what you can and use other people. We use the resources that are out there, especially if you are not a one-line. If you do not have a one line, do not try to figure this out for yourself. Like go get help.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:05

And whether that's, I mean, obviously I'm here to help people, but if it's not me, that's totally fine. I get that too. So I'm here to help.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:18

Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So you can go in, get the free chart, download it, and then, you know, there'll be some resources and then you can always reach out to Brianna. But I, you know, what I found is it's just so interesting to just, you know, look it up. I've also used ChatGPT to be like, what did this mean? Um.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:35

Just be careful with chat or other AI because it can get it wrong sometimes. And so just always always be able to double check and and know, know enough to be able to confirm, like, yeah, that sounds right or that feels right.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:49

Yeah. So now you also have a podcast that you're about to start. Yes. Anything you can share on that or should just people look out for it around when and when do you know when this episode will air? Uh this will probably air in about two to three weeks. So it'll probably air, let's see, we're March 3rd. It'll probably air um the week like around March 24th. That's the day the podcast comes out.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:19

So yes. So I am starting my own podcast that is, it'll sit at the intersection of human design and marketing for your business to really change the way that people think and talk and market and sell their business, especially for entrepreneurs who are just so done. I call it DDFD, done, done, freaking done, marketing like everybody else. Like, like stick a fork in me, DDFD. I'm so over sounding like everybody else in my business or my industry. And I want to just show up as me. That's what the podcast will be for. And it's um, it's own your mark. No E, just own your mark.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:59

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

Will be the name of that podcast. And it comes out officially on March 4th or March 24th. 24th. Cool. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:07

All right. Well, that will be perfect timing. And then maybe you can give us, well, we'll hopefully link that too in the show notes. And Brianna, thank you so much for being with us and sharing all of your insights and wisdom. Um, you've been a huge help to me in personally and in my business. And I just love working with you. So I'm I'm so grateful that we were able to have this conversation. And I think we like a lot out of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:29

Likewise. You know what we didn't even say? I can't believe we didn't say it.

unknown 1:11:33

What?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

We are birthday twins.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

Oh, you're May 31st. Yes. Oh my gosh, that's so funny. So it's I just funny. I forgot that.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:44

Yeah. May 31st. So it's a good date. It is I think it's a great date.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:50

But you know, I have a number of other people who have in my life who have the same birthday. It's a good it's a good group.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:56

It's a good club. Yeah. So just likewise, I really enjoy working with you. And thanks for inviting me in and having me on and letting me uh show you everything I see in you. And it's just been so fun to watch you like put all of the pieces together and then be like, oh, okay. And just it's so encouraging to see how you really lean into your own design and even the business design of how it's different and just how it's helped things take shape. It's just so cool to watch.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Yeah. Thank you. Well, I love it. I love it. I found it hugely insightful, and that's why I'm so passionate about sharing it with others. So thank you. All right. Well, best of luck with everything, and I look forward to speaking with you again soon. And thank you for joining the Thrive Worthy podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

Thank you for having me. Hope you well. Cheers.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

So thank you for listening to this episode on human design. Before we go, here are our top six takeaways from today's episode. And I'm thrilled to have my nieces Addison and Emma and my daughter Isla with me today for Take Your Child to Work Day. And since we're learning about human design today, I'm gonna have them each share their energy type. And then they're gonna hit the top takeaways from this episode. So, Addie, what's your energy type?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

I'm a generator.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

Emma?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:16

I'm also a generator.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:17

And Isla?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:18

I'm a projector. Nice. Okay. Human design is like a blueprint that helps you understand how you're wired and how you work best. Everyone has a different energy type. And that means we all do things in our different own ways. You're not meant to do life like everyone else. You're meant to be yourself. Listening to your body and your inner voice can help you guide your decisions. Doing things you enjoy gives you more energy and helps you show up better. When you understand yourself better, your love and work can feel more aligned and easier.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

Thanks for listening to the Thrive Worthy podcast. And remember, everyone has thriving. Can we please see it?