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EP 24: Caring, Creativity & Change: Matthew McKenzie on Peer Support, Mental Health & Speaking Out

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What does it mean to become a carer — and how does it change the course of your life?

In this powerful episode of Shoulder to Shoulder, Cate speaks with Matthew McKenzie, a carer, poet, author, and nationally recognised advocate for unpaid carers. Drawing from his personal experiences caring for his mother (diagnosed with schizoaffective psychosis) and his two autistic brothers, Matt opens up about the emotional toll of caring, the importance of peer-led support, and the power of lived experience to reshape systems.

Awarded the British Empire Medal in 2024 for his services to carers, Matt talks about his work with Carers UK, his role as an NHS governor, and his ongoing mission to centre the voices of carers — especially from marginalised communities — in mental health and social care policy.

We discuss:

  • Why many carers don’t recognise themselves as carers

  • The mental health impact of caring — and why it’s still overlooked

  • How peer support networks build resilience and connection

  • The role of poetry and creative voice in advocacy

  • Representation, race, and LGBTQ+ inclusion in carer support

  • What needs to change in UK services — and where hope lies

Whether you’re a carer, a professional, or just curious about how we can support each other better — this conversation is honest, moving, and essential listening.

Learn more about With-you and our peer support communities at with-you.co.uk

Visit Matt's YouTube channel: The Caring Mind

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