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Southpaw Origins
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The path to a champion’s mindset doesn’t start with a belt. It starts with a choice—and Yoruba’s first big choice was to switch from orthodox to Southpaw as a kid, mastering the stance until it felt like home. From losing his first five amateur fights to stacking 200 bouts and stepping confidently into the pros, he shares how fundamentals, honesty, and patience turned frustration into fuel.
We dig into what really changes from amateur point-scoring to professional punishment. Yoruba explains why snapping punches is a lost art, how he treats sparring like the closest thing to fight night, and why intensity has to be earned before it’s unleashed. He opens up about the realities pros face—opponents pulling out, camps shifting, the politics of the amateur scene—and how he keeps momentum with discipline and gratitude. The jab becomes the anchor: a tool he drills for entire sessions, a compass for distance, timing, and control.
Family and community shape this story. His father is his coach, pushing him past comfort without selling him easy answers, and his sister brings body-shot power that sets the bar for toughness. We talk about building toward multiple-division titles from 118 and 122, traveling to Vegas for elite work, and what New Mexico’s boxing culture needs to truly shine: fewer egos, more fundamentals, and safer, smarter coaching. If you care about craft over clout, this conversation will land.
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Meet Yoruba And Early Beginnings
SPEAKER_01How are you today, Yoruba?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I'm doing good, feeling blessed. You know, just got done with the workout, shared in a little bit of weight, but other than that, we're good.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on here with me. And, you know, before I get started with the questions, I was just hoping that you would tell the audience a little bit about yourself, how you got started with fighting, you know, just different things that happened to you along the way on this journey. Can you just give us some information?
Turning Southpaw On Purpose
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. You know, I started boxing when I was six years old, competing at eight years old. For people who don't know, I started at the Johnny Topia gym, and he was one of the main reasons that I'm a Southpaw. You know, as a little kid, I was right-handed and everything like that. But he told me at a young age, fall on be a world champion, go far in the sport, switch lefties. So after that day, I became a South Pole. Then from on there, me and Pops, my sister, you know, we started competing after USA boxing, started making our way to nationals, making our name at nationals, going over the country, getting sparring and work like that. And all the news we started building up our little profile and getting better. And after that, you know, within last year, you know, we we flipped the switch, decided to go pro, you know, started working on little things, got into some pro camps like with Hevin Pharma and stuff like that for the Zapato fight. So, you know, after that, you know, we've just been working, practicing our pro style. Now, now I'm 2-0 right now, looking to be 3-0, coming up January 9th, and you know, from on there.
SPEAKER_01So tell me a little bit about becoming Southpaw, because that's a very interesting thing, and I'm sure it's very challenging to do. So, what what were the steps taken for you to actually adjust to that?
SPEAKER_00It's just like anything, you know, like riding a bicycle, you're gonna start off with the the the little pedals and stuff like that. Same with uh being Southpaw, you know, we just started off putting all our weight in our in our left foot, you know, working the jabs, getting basics down, then from on there it became smooth.
SPEAKER_01How long did it take for that transition though to where you've really felt comfortable, where it just became natural to you?
SPEAKER_00I for sure say um, because you know, I started when I when I when I became Southpaw, I was I was little, I was a little guy, but you know, I started becoming full more comfortable knowing my angles and everything, you know, I'll say I was about like 14.
SPEAKER_01Okay. And when you first started when you were six, was it something that, you know, like how did that conversation come up? Did you just say, hey dad, I want to box?
SPEAKER_00My pops is actually like a boxer and stuff like that. And we were at Jack Canneletta Community Center, and you know, head Manuel Naya had his fighters like Jordan, he had he had Fidel there, he had, man, a group of fighters, a group of fighters, Hollywood, that's that's my dude right there. So being in that atmosphere, seeing all the fighters and stuff like that, looking up to them, I was like, man, that caught my attention. You know, at the end of the day, um, that's something I I found in love with.
SPEAKER_01And who was your main fighter that inspired you the most when you were growing up?
SPEAKER_00Oh man, I had a couple for sure. You know, it's very it was very hard because like I said, I'm
Building A 200-Fight Amateur Resume
SPEAKER_00such a big fan of the sport. I always looked at, of course, the New Mexico greats, like I always mentioned Johnny, Danny Romero, Bob Foster, you know. But outside of New Mexico, I always looked up to, you know, Guermo Riegandel. That was one of my favorite Cuban fighters of all time, you know, especially he was a Southwall explosive. Um yeah, I don't know, that's a hard one for sure.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So now I know that you have an extensive amateur career. I know you have 200, 200 fights, which is a lot of fights. And I was just wondering, you know, how did you get to that number? Was it were you doing like a reassessment every 25 fights and saying, like, hey, where are we? Like what was what was the pivot or what was the pinnacle that you were looking for during that amateur time for you to become pro? Was there something that you were looking for in those fights?
SPEAKER_00Not really. I just know like when I first started, like like I said, competing at eight years old. I knew I'll tell you a quick thing. I lost my first five fights, you know, and after that, in the amateur, I was like, oh yeah, nah, I can't be taking no losses like that early in my career. Next no, from there we just started taking all the fights we could get, whether it was out state, in-state. I remember like by 10 years old, yeah, I had like a good 50 fights. Knicks know. Ever since then, I started going, that's when I started getting better going to the national tournaments, you know. Before, like, now you had you can just go to the national tournaments before back then you had to qualify for them. You know, you had to do state, regionals, and nationals, and that's what I did. I started qualifying that. I started getting most of my fights at the nationals and stuff like that. But I know before I wanted to go pro, I think I had like 170. And I was youth and I was about to turn elite. And people who don't know elite, elite is 18 to like maybe 40, I think. That's when you officially fight grown men and grown people. So me and my dad said to go, if I want to go pro and stuff like that, I at least I had like 10, 10 elite fights, you know, and win them, of course. But I remember I hit that like my first year. I had like I got like 20 elite fights, you know, got in there with grown men and everything like that. So yeah, yeah, it was a good experience and everything like that. Like I said, I hit my goal for sure. Nixon after that, we took a year off, practice how to sit on punches, snap punches, and everything like that. We still learning the course, but you know, because it's different from amateurs and pros, people know, like night and day for sure.
Amateur Politics And Mindset
SPEAKER_01Well, and that was one of the questions that I wanted to ask you. What is the difference, really? I mean, I know definitely training would probably become more extensive, but what are some other things that you can tell people that are maybe even in the amateurs right now? Like, what is it gonna take to transition?
SPEAKER_00For sure. Um, you know, if I could give advice to the people who are going pro that coming straight after amateurs, I'll say don't don't don't need to rush it, especially what if you're like 19, 20, coming straight after amateur, going pro, you ain't gotta rush it because look, you're young, you know. Take your time and develop, especially what most I ain't glad, most I'm glad time too. I thought I had a pro style on amateurs, you know, because you take your time, but it's really nine day because in the in the pros, you know, you're not there to check chains and score points either or it knocks on out. You're the man across you, you know, he's trying to take food off your plate. He's coming with a different type of hunger. Amateurs, you're just scoring points. You can just jab move, jab, move, pick, pick, move. Now in the pros is different. That's why snapping your shots, I say, is probably one of the most lost arts in boxing. And shout out to my coach Manuel now. He's been helping me um snap my punches, like I said, from checking chins and putting people to sleep. It's it's a big difference.
SPEAKER_01I've heard that you are putting people to sleep. Um do you do you care to to divulge
Transitioning To The Pro Style
SPEAKER_01some information about that? I mean, I I've heard that you really take sparring very seriously, which is no, it's a great thing. But is there how does that mindset for sparring differ from from an actual fight?
SPEAKER_00You know, kind of like what Buzz said, sparring is be the closest thing that you're gonna get to a real fight, you know. And when you're in that sparring session, especially you're in with high-end level people or high-end people, you know, if you if you if you end up just, you know, take your time, pick, you know, little, not a little bit of force into it, then you're gonna be fine like that in the in the in the in the fight. So that's definitely why you should, you know, I won't say try not to chill out, but definitely step it up and sparring, you know, like work at a higher frequency and you know, push yourself because that's that's the closest thing you get to a fight. So definitely, especially if you're in there with like some world champions, you know, they ain't gonna take it easy on you. So you're definitely gonna have to put them snap and twerk behind them shots.
SPEAKER_01Who do you think was one of the toughest people that you sparred?
SPEAKER_00Ooh, that's a good one. I ain't gonna lie. I've been in there with a couple world champions, but people, you know, people for New Mexico know him. And for some people who don't know him, uh, his name is Matthew Downboy Grego. That's one of my dudes, my closest homies, right there. And for him, man, I'm telling you, for one 15-pounder, that man has some of the best hidden footwork that I can ever see. I'm telling you, when I mean it, it's up there, but Bam Rodriguez, it's up with there. You know, he he's definitely a diamond of dirt that ain't been found. But once once he gets his time to shine,
Sparring Philosophy And Toughest Rounds
SPEAKER_00I'll promise you.
SPEAKER_01I I know who you're talking about. I've I've I've seen the footwork. When you when you did lose those first five fights, because and I hear this a lot, that the amateurs are just so unfair. Like, even people like Tiafamo Lopez, like he had a really he didn't even really have a good amateur career. But like, what would do you think that it was just more about the the the judges, or was it things that you were noticing about yourself throughout the fight that you needed to work on? Because like I hear a lot of things that that that there is a lot of unfair things that happen.
SPEAKER_00It's definitely a little a mix of both, but real quick, I remember when I was a kid though, I even have an interview on it. My goal was never to be like the most the amateur standout, be Olympian or anything like that. My goal is always to be a world champion. I grew up watching pro boxing, not amateur boxing. So for me, I always want to be a pro-world champion, pro-superstar, you know what I mean? But like for the amateur part, I definitely, especially at the national level, you'll see a bunch of politics involved, especially like I noticed once you get on that team, you'll say people they start putting money behind you. You know, it's just like an investment. If you put money behind you, you don't want to lose money, so they're gonna try whoever's the number one dude or number two, they're gonna try to keep him there for a reason.
SPEAKER_01That's kind of I don't know, how did that make you feel though, knowing that you were in an in an environment like that? Did it make you feel a certain type of pressure?
SPEAKER_00It was never the pressure, it was just like, you know, it sucks when you go to like the semifinals, finals, and you find the number two, number one guy, and you're like, damn, he's right on team you'll say. So you only hope is probably knocking this motherfucker out or pure domination, but it's gonna be hard because you know the judges already like that's their dude. But you know, it's cool. Like I said, all the amateurs really is for is experience, you know, getting all them different types of styles and stuff like that. So, like at the say at the end of the day, my goal is never to be no amateur star.
SPEAKER_01So now you are gonna be a world champion. I I know you are, and I say it all the time. Whatever I call out into the universe always happens. So speak it to exist. But you but you don't even need me to say that because I already know, just looking you in your eyes, like you have that champion mentality. Like, I I believe that at the age of six you already knew you were gonna be a world champion. What is going to be we're gonna talk about the fight that's gonna happen in a couple of days, but when you think about a pinnacle of success in this sport, what do you see, what do you envision? You know, is it is it to be unified or like what where do you see yourself going?
SPEAKER_00Definitely I'll you know, me, I want to be a multiple division world champ. You know, that's one of my biggest goals because watching Manny Pacquiao, he was a multiple division world champ, you know, Danny multiple, um Johnny multiple division world champ. That's why I'm starting at 118, you know. Well actually I start 122, but I'm gonna go to 118 this fight, or if not 122. Then, you know, work my way up because
Goals: Multi-Division Titles And Weight
SPEAKER_00especially I know I got the height, and you know, I always spar bigger people, so I know I know I could move up, especially in the amateur. I fought heavier in the amateur, always fought on my walker in weight in the amateurs. I never had to cut weight. So, you know, I always envision myself to be a multiple division world champ, you know, unify. If I could go on dispute, go undisputed, but definitely multiple division world champ, you know, that's that's how that's how I envision it for sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And now as far as going up in weight, are you prepared or or have you started a plan in motion, like looking down the road on how on how you're going to get there and what the difference in the training and and the diet is going to take? Like, have you thought about that?
SPEAKER_00A little bit, but I know for sure, you know, right now we're just gonna get all the fights we could at 1822 and stuff like that, get all the wins. You know, hopefully in a in a year or so we'll run across a little, we can get it into an interim or you know, a title or anything like that. Cause I that'd be sick, I ain't gonna lie. But you know, like I said, start off the lower weight class, work our way up. Next thing we'll work our way up, we'll build the right muscle, the right physique, and everything like that.
Opponents, Pullouts, And Staying Ready
SPEAKER_01Now, you were you had somebody that was going to fight you coming up on January 9th. What happened with that opponent?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I know we had him set and you know, everything was ready to go. Then I want to say maybe like a week ago or something like that, he he he decided to pull out. You know, we've been going through a couple opponents trying to get something last minute, but you know, it's it's part of the game. That's one thing what some of the OGs told me in the sport, like the world champions and like the the higher people that were like, you know, when you're starting off your pro career, good thing you're young because you know a lot of this stuff's gonna happen. You're gonna have fights that are set, then last minute someone's gonna pull out, injury or whatever, you know, it's part of the sport. So good thing I got youth on my side. So, you know, yeah. Of course, we we don't want the fight to fall apart or anything like that, but that that just means we got more stuff to work on in the gym and everything like that.
SPEAKER_01And now there was a new fighter that was mentioned. Can you tell me a little bit about him? And and is it actually is it going to be on the card or you don't even know yet?
SPEAKER_00For now, I ain't gonna lie, I do not know. I know my manager, Jacob Mays, is working on it right now, and I'm leaving him like how he always always comes through and stuff like that. But you know, I just let him and my coaches work on that for sure.
SPEAKER_01And if this fight does not happen, do you have another fight maybe looking down the road that you can on the card or I I know big we're gonna have a big 2026 year for sure.
SPEAKER_00So I know say we do lose out on this one. I know there's gonna be many fights down the road and stuff like that. And like I said, everything will come together for sure. You know, you y'all definitely gonna see me busy this year though, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I know you're busy. I was watching your training when I got here, and I know you're busy. And I I think you know, one of the things that I had been discussing earlier was there's not
Finding World-Class Work In Vegas
SPEAKER_01really a lot of there's not really a lot of people to spar out here. Is that accurate? Like where do where do you find your your sparring partners? Are you traveling around the country?
SPEAKER_00For right now, you like I said, we I have a couple teammates. You know, I got Trevion Boyd, he fights at 32, got my boy Caleb Medina fights at 43. Then I got Matt Diamond Boy Gregor, pro boxer, and he fights at 115. You know, I got I got a couple guys that are in state, you know, we work around each other, help each other prepare, get get sharp, and all like that. But most of the times we'll do has to go out of state. Like I had to go um spar, I spar a lot of my my boy Troy Nash. He just he was ranked, he's the number two prospect of the year in in boxing scene. If you don't know him, Troy Nash, that man is a phenom man. Crazy, beautiful jab, but beautiful for work, defense, everything. He's a complete fighter, man. Y'all tune in.
SPEAKER_01Shouting out to Troy Nash, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's my boy, man. Yeah, I learned a lot from him. We'll go to Vegas down. You know, that's where you know Loki the Mecca boxing now, getting all the good work out there. Go to Salas, go to Coach K's gym, you know. That's that's where you get that sharp work. You know, if you you want you want milk here, I go with the Cowsies. So definitely.
SPEAKER_01Are you planning on eventually making your way out to Vegas?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. Especially, you know, when we start moving up to these fights, you know, these hot these higher-end guys, we're gonna definitely start taking our camp down there, get all that sharp work. But yeah, definitely I won't be surprised I'll be down there longer soon.
SPEAKER_01And now I was wondering this, and so your your father is
Family In The Corner: Dad And Sister
SPEAKER_01your coach. Yes, sir. Okay. How does that do you feel like that he may be more tougher on you than than somebody else that he's training? Like how does that relationship work?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he definitely always be tougher on me because you know I'm his son and stuff like that. He's he's gonna push me to my limits, he's gonna push me to be the best me and stuff like that. But you know, at the end of the I'd always want him in my corner because you know, you want someone who's gonna be brutally honest with you and push you to your next. If you have a bunch of yesmen in your corner and stuff like that, then that's not gonna help you, it's not gonna get you nowhere.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So And now your sister, your sister is also a fighter. Did you ever did you do a lot of training with her? Like, how did that work out? How was that dynamic?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. You know, when she was out here, we definitely got a lot of work, and I ain't gonna lie, to this dad standing on this for a female. Ain't no one cracked me harder than the body than my sister, bro. Like, for real, she got some crazy power for a female. Yeah, you know, you know, there's a reason why she's two and one. She stopped that last girl, her last fight with the body shot. Oh man, I could, I already know that girl was feeling it the next day because she thought it was ruthless. That's one thing. Don't let her touch into the body, man. You're gonna be feeling that.
SPEAKER_01I'll make sure. I I will never ever start with her. What about the the training part of it? Is there are there any parts of the training that you don't like that or that you have to like put extra effort in mentally to push through?
SPEAKER_00To be honest, I I don't I don't mind at all. Uh maybe, maybe sometimes a little bit. The running, of course, you know, anyone wanna be running no long miles on on a on the Sunday, you know, you want to rest, but you know, that's when the discipline comes in and kicks in, you know, if you want to be great or anything like that, you gotta do the stuff you don't want to do. That's how you push yourself and get better all the time.
SPEAKER_01And how do you keep how do you keep focused though with other things going on in your life? I know that that sometimes people have things going on in their life and it gets really challenging for them to stay focused on the training. And I I know
Discipline, Focus, And Gratitude
SPEAKER_01that you're extremely goal-oriented, but what is the driving factor behind that? Is there anything that you do or or you know say to yourself specifically that just helps you get through those tough days?
SPEAKER_00I'll definitely say, you know, my pops he he he sacrificed a lot and did a lot for us at a young age. And you know, you know, for him putting me where I'm in the position I'm at, you know, I'm blessed, you know, to have certain opportunities and everything like that. You know, I always look at like this, someone, someone, someone's the worst day, someone's best day, you know what I mean? So, you know, I just I just take advantage of all the stuff. You know, I'm blessed to have the lungs in my in me, you know, my legs working, body functioning, house over my head. So, you know, I just keep pushing, you know, be thankful for every opportunity and everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
Fixing Boxing Culture In New Mexico
SPEAKER_01And uh regarding New Mexico with boxing out here, what do you think needs to change out here? I I feel like New Mexico is just uh it's a hidden gem of fighters, and every fighter that I speak to out here really has to brawl their way out of here. And and what do you think needs to change?
SPEAKER_00I definitely think I would say it's it's nothing with the fighters, it's definitely with the coaching, for sure. You know, everyone all the coaches have like an ego thing, you know. There's only one way, you know. You go, it's like this. I know it's a lot of fighters out here. Like, even when I first started, they were like, the only way to fight is to brawler go mono to mono. Yeah, I mean, man, you can have a short career doing that. You know, the boxing thing is boxing for a reason, it's a sweet science. You try to do that brawling stuff out in national, you're just gonna get slept, or you're gonna get worked, or you try to fight so now I say you're just gonna get worked on. You know, master your fundamentals and everything like that. So I know it's a lot of coaches try to bump heads, there's only one way, there's their way. Now they should like we should all be working together and putting New Mexico back on the hotbag and fighters got one thing about New Mexico, I'll stand on it. We have some of the best hidden talent. I'll stand on that, especially we produce so much fighters. All we just need is the right direction of coaching, you know, just get together and you know help the fighters, not the coaches have an ego theme, just have a like look out for the fighters and push themselves.
SPEAKER_01Well, maybe now the next generation that's coming up will be those coaches that that the youth need out here to promote that more. And you know, I think you know, your story is like really inspiring to me. And and I had actually spoke with your coach, and I know that he raised you as a single parent, and I mean that's just commendable. And I mean you're you know, you're really going far. And and I was just wondering if you had any words of inspiration. For people
Fundamentals First And Safe Coaching
SPEAKER_01who do want to get into boxing or you know have the ambition to be a fighter. Like, where should they start?
SPEAKER_00Well, you know, definitely just go to if you just start, you know, just go to your local gym or go to someone you trust and stuff like that, and you know, just work on your fundamentals and stuff like that. Fundamentals is key. You know, even if you just want to let some anger out, go to the gym, hit some bags, you know, whatever. For sure, you know, just start off at the gym, man. From there, take it on.
SPEAKER_01How would you how would you define a bad boxing coach?
SPEAKER_00A bad boxing coach. Don't crush your fundamentals, just try to throw you in the ring within like a week to go spark. Because I didn't see coaches firsthand get a fighter that don't know nothing, and within like a weekend, they're already sparring, like, bro, teach them a jab, teach them forward, teach them defense, you know, teach them balance. Don't just throw a fighter in and town fight. At that point, y'all just street fighting, you know. Look out. Other than them, coaches gotta look out for their fighters' health and safety and stuff like that. Because at the end of the day, you know, you're obviously not supposed to be punched in the head. So, like, you know, if you're just throwing a fighter in there and go spar, man, man, you need your license revoked or something.
SPEAKER_01How long do you think that somebody should be practicing the fundamentals before sparring?
SPEAKER_00If you got your fundamentals down with throwing a jab, basic footwork, basic defense, everything like that, then you know, then you're good. I'll say for me, you know, I'll make sure definitely, like I said, my fighter is fundamentally sound. You don't gotta be crazy like Floyd Mayor fundamentally sound, but you know, enough to, you know, move, jab, get out of range, you know, notice his distance, you know.
SPEAKER_01How how many rounds of just the straight jab have
The Jab That Takes You Around The World
SPEAKER_01you practiced? Because somebody, somebody had mentioned that there were some days that you did probably like 12 straight rounds of jabbing. I'm like, wow, that's you know, I mean, that's remarkable. I mean, what are you thinking about that whole entire time where you're just jabbing? I mean, it's just on auto.
SPEAKER_00Man, that man, my jab arm be killing me. That's why sometimes if you look, my my jab arm, I'm like uh Merk Jones, when they call him Captain Hook, one arm bigger than the other. That's how my jab arm is. But you know, that's that's the key unboxing right there. You know, like like we always say, a straight could take you down the block, a jab could take you around the world. So, you know, you master that jab right there, it's gonna take you around the world. Say that again. I say if the straight could take you down the block, the jab could take you around the world.
SPEAKER_01Amen. I love that. Is there anything that you wanted to say, just that, you know, coming out of your own thought process and anything inspiring that you want to tell the nation, really?
SPEAKER_00You
Final Advice And Shoutouts
SPEAKER_00know, keep keep working, man. You know, for sure. Whatever you do, whether you're you're not even boxing or you're trying to be a physician, I don't know, different types of sport, whatever, just keep discipline, man. Discipline is gonna take you where it's at. You know, like like in boxing, everyone could everyone who's in boxing right now, they all they're all promising and stuff like that. But you know, being promising fire can take you far if you don't have discipline.
SPEAKER_01Is there anybody that you want to give special shout outs to while we're here?
SPEAKER_00Definitely shout out my coach Emmanuel Naya, shout out my pops, Coach Ernie from the team, you know, Albuquerque, New Mexico, everyone, you know, Andrew Leo, you know, everyone who's been paving the way for me since a young age and stuff like that. I want to say thank you so much and shout out for y'all for helping me.
SPEAKER_01All right. Well, there you have it. That is Yoruba, and we are looking very forward to seeing him at his next fight. I'm looking forward to just seeing you go all the way to the top. I'm gonna be doing the media. I'm gonna be coming to your fights. And I just wanted to thank you so much, really from the bottom of my heart, for taking the time out. I know you're busy training. And yeah, I mean, all good things to you. God bless.
SPEAKER_00No, thank you so much for having me.