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Alpha-gal Outdoorsman
Episode 10 Part one of our Eastern Ky Turkey hunt
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Robert and his long time hunting buddy Roy are off to eastern Ky Turkey hunting. For the love of cheeseburgers they're ready to have a big time.
Welcome to the Alpha Galdoorsman Podcast, where we talk all things Alpha Gal and all things outdoors. Everything from hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, canoeing, kayaking, jeeping, off-roading, even gardening. I'm your host, Robert Worley. Hey y'all, welcome back to another episode of Alpha Galdoorsman. As the intro just said, I am your host, Robert Worley. Um got some uh this is an experiment. Today's episode is definitely an experiment, but before I get into explaining that too much, um, I want to give you a little up and update on Bill 578. So myself and three other um fellow bitten uh Alpha Gal um Alpha Galese uh and myself went to um on the 15th today, what's the day today? 17th. 17th. So on the 15th, which was two days ago Wednesday, we went to the Capitol building in Columbus, Ohio, and spent the whole afternoon walking from Senator's office to senator's office, passing out information over Alpha Gow syndrome from the uh Alpha Gal Alliance Action Fund or Action, yes, anyway. Any rate, we had a great day. We um we got to talk to some senators. We had two meetings that went both well. Both meetings that we had, the um the the senators they're they're like they're all on board, and we had a lot of good interactions. Um a lot of I I think I think we're really looking good. Right now, House Bill 578 is in, you're gonna get in the right lane, it's down 275. So um right now I uh it is in the Senate's health committee. We expect it to pass through really fast and go to the floor uh for the first hearing. And um, with that being said, this is my buddy Roy. Roy Pisodney say hey Roy. Hey Roy. So uh Roy and I, it's today is April the 17th. Kentucky turkey season comes in tomorrow, and we are right now on 275. Just went around Cincinnati. We are heading south. We're going to Eastern Kentucky Turkey hunt. Are you excited? Man, I've been excited for the whole week. Thunder chicken days coming. Thunder chickens. So um, we're going down here in tech country. Yeah. We're going down here in tech country. Roy, before me, uh uh you so usually you've heard the podcast. So usually when we start things out. Uh, anyways, I I wanted to say this was an experiment. I guess I skipped ahead a little too fast, didn't I? So this is an experiment. Me and Roy right now are on 275 East, heading south, um, heading to, and we're recording this while going down the road. So this may get scratched, it may not, I don't know. Um, and this also could be a two-part series. Um if the weekend goes well, and as Roy said, we knocked down a couple Thunder Chickens, we are uh we may do this episode on the way down and then do one the night before we come home or something like that, or even do one coming home and make this a two-part series. I'm not sure, but uh we will um is this still yeah, we're still recording. Yeah. Sometimes I can get a little confused, Roy. Yeah. I understand. That's yeah, yeah. So my buddy Roy here um is a railroad man. He works for the railroad. Uh Roy, before me, had you heard of Alpha Gal syndrome?
SPEAKER_00I never even had heard of the Lone Star Tick or Alpha Gal at all. At all. At all.
SPEAKER_01And then you and I, we've been buddies for, let's see, goes back to 1994. Yeah, 94. 94. So that's been a that's been a long time. Yeah, yeah. Um, and uh, and you're friends with D-Ray, which y'all I had D-Ray on, uh, my other hunting buddy there a couple weeks ago. Um, D-Ray was supposed to be with us, but his wife fell and broke her leg, and he is home taking care of mama. He's a good man. I bet the mushrooms are so big we're gonna be tripping over them. I hope we find them. That way we can send you plenty of pictures. That's right. Yeah, so Roy or uh D-Ray, uh, we're gonna find you some mushrooms. Now I can't guarantee we won't eat them, but we're gonna look. I guarantee you we're gonna eat them. So, Roy, you um you had never heard of Alpha Gal before me. Um, and then uh all of a sudden, bam, I got slapped with the with the plague.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I uh I was shocked to watch the the transformation of what we all would consider normal life into life with Alpha Gal. It uh from the outside looking in, it was it was tragic watching watching you uh fumble through and and not know and uh makes you not want that stuff. Son, I'm telling you right now, I am a full I am a full believer, son. I will uh spray, I'll dip, I'll take a bath in it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, we have our permethrin. I got my wife looked in the box and she said, You got enough tech spray? I had I used a full bottle yesterday, daggone near a full bottle, and sprayed all my hunting clothes, everything all the way down to my socks and boots and everything. And then I got a brand new bottle in there, and I had, I bet I got I got two bottles of promethrin, and I bet I got five bottles of different kinds of deep. So we're we're covered. We are definitely, definitely covered. Yeah. So Roy, you work for the railroad and you're on the road all the time, and you are you are you and your crews, you are off in the weeds every day. Every day. You are you're in them.
SPEAKER_00Ticks is a big part of your job, right? It is uh it's a 24-7, 365. We've uh I've picked ticks off me in the middle of the winter with 12 inches of snow on the ground. So uh unfortunately uh there just there ain't no place to hide from them. And uh the railroad is one of those uh uh one of those genres that's uh it's everyday life. You have to do a tick check. My wife is so tired of me dropping trowel and be like, I need you to look at everything. I need a tick check. And yeah, yeah. So uh she's uh she's well versed in uh tick educated.
SPEAKER_01So um before me and you learn about this, now if I understand this right, you have got the safety stores to start carrying permethrin spray.
SPEAKER_00Is that correct? They were carrying it, but they just weren't uh it just wasn't uh as pronounced up here in the north as it is down south. You know, we have tracks that run down Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, uh, and those guys were more aware of it, but uh uh speaking to my upper management, uh it could be a problem. I mean, you get bit on the job, of course, it becomes a lifelong ailment that uh you know could possibly you know roll into who knows why. Yeah, yeah, you just never know. So we've actually had discussions and uh we're uh hopefully gonna make it more prominent up in the northern, northern part of the world uh to take precautions. Education. Yeah, education, yeah. Uh and hopefully we can do that with uh uh you know you and uh you know the Alpha Gal Alliance. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So when I was at the Senate Wednesday, um the Alpha Gal Alliance Action Fund had sent a ton of um material. They sent um uh pamphlets made up, and then uh, you know, uh oh shout out to Kelly Keys, who is um the lobbyist in Ohio that is helping us work on this bill. Uh she had all these printed up in folders. Man, it is it's outstanding educational information, right? So she printed up. We went to 33 senators' office. I bet she printed 60 of them, you know, just for whoever we could pass them out to, right? So I brought them home. Um I I was able to uh I I I got to bring the extras home. I'm sending them with Roy and uh their next safety meeting, he's taking them to the railroad, and um uh just uh simply to raise awareness, you know, in the uh in the railroad industry industry in the northern part. Because like you said, down south, down south they're good, they're educated. Yeah, yeah, you can't help but to be educated down that way in Alpha Gow Center. But up here, it's it's coming. It's here, but it's just now starting to get out to where people are like, holy wow, man. Holy wow. Yeah, so that's pretty good stuff, Roy. I do appreciate you helping us uh you know raise awareness. I don't want the whole purpose of this podcast and everything is just simply is simply for that, right there.
SPEAKER_00Well, and I tell you, it's uh we just you just need to be uh you know hyper-vigilant. I mean, it's like when we went turkey hunting and I found that lone star tick on me that first day. Yeah. I liked, I mean, about run out of the room naked and had to just do me a tick check right out there by the campfire, and it absolutely just freaked me out. Uh because it wasn't embedded. Well, you know, it wasn't embedded, but uh what we hear, you know, I hear lone star tick alpha gal and I think, oh my gosh, I got one on me, I gotta have it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, and it's so even as uh you know, educated as you had had me at that point, it went completely out the with them. You broke out the cold sweat, and I'm telling you right now. Yeah, I never I never thought about streaking in my 50s like I had at that point.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um well fortunately it wasn't embedded, and you don't have Alpha Gal, which is a beautiful thing. Yes, it is. I love cheeseburgers and I love bacon. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, the first time I told you about Alpha Gal, what was wrong with me, tell him what you was eating that very I was eating the greasiest bacon cheeseburger and it had double cheese on it and grease running down my elbow and it about made me cry. It hurt my feelings when he told me that too.
SPEAKER_01But let's get uh so it is the funda chicken season. We are going turkey hunting. So, turkey season, they've had youth season down here. Turkey season in Kentucky opens tomorrow, which is April the 18th. Right now it is 10:30 a.m. on the 17th Friday. We're heading down, we're gonna roost some birds tonight. Um we uh so the two of the fellows that was coming, Doug and D-Ray, that was gonna come mushroom hunting, neither one of them was able to get away, so now it's me and Roy. But one of the landowners uh on one of the farms that we hunt is gonna join us. Uh uh friend of mine, a guy went to school with, he owns one of the farms, 150-acre patch that we hunt down here. So there will be three of us. I'm kind of excited, it'll be fun. I'm not even gonna carry a gun tomorrow, I'm just gonna call. But we uh Roy and I was down here, so we doubled up last year. We doubled up. We was in the bottom, and we just listening for calling, and we couldn't hear, we couldn't hear any, and um, I had to run back out to the Jeep. I'd forgot my water bottle, and I wanted to get my water bottle. So we had parked up the farmhouse, and um, I had walked back up and I heard gobbling, and I was up by the road, and it was on the other side of the road, and I walked out around the farmhouse and looked, and man, this god-awful batch of turkeys out there in the field strutting, and um so I get back to Roy and I'm like, Roy, we gotta climb this mountain. So there's a there is a uh little clearing on top of the mountain up there, and they're in them strut zones, we need to get up there. And we did, we climbed that mountain, and um um kind of heading to them. I thought I heard a gobble. And um I stopped, we stopped, I hit a I hit the call once or twice, man. They fired it. Boy, they was hot, wasn't it? They were man, they were screaming. They was cut. We had to we just throw our packs down, set no decoys out, sat down, and Roy, how long did it take, Roy?
SPEAKER_00Dude, I think you might have hit that call twice, and they hit and were on us. I mean, they were running.
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SPEAKER_00They were running. I mean, it was they were on us before we could even get comfortable with it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, we we throw the packs down and sat down, chambered up, and and man, it was as soon as I'd hit a call, they would cut me off. I mean, call, bam, they'd cut me off. And uh we killed two nice birds, we doubled up, we killed two nice birds. Uh, they had both of them had nine-inch beards or thereabouts nine-inch beards. Um so we're hoping for the same thing tomorrow. You'd love it. I would love it. Huh? So we're talking, we've been talking strategy a little bit down here. So I'm not gonna carry a gun tomorrow, which I kind of like. I mean, it's like a burden, you know. Oh, yeah. I can focus on calling. I'm gonna call for the landowner, Arnie, and uh, and my buddy Roy here. We're gonna set them up. And uh hopefully, you know, the farm, the one farm, we got two different farms down here we're gonna be hunting, and uh they both hold birds. I just hope they're talking. What's the weather gonna be like? It's supposed to be nice. Is it? Supposed to be nice. I'm gonna pull the weather wrap up real fast.
SPEAKER_00Cold front's coming in Sunday night.
SPEAKER_01Sunday night, yeah. Yeah, I think Sunday morning's gonna be like 44, ain't it? Yeah, it's gonna be a little nipple out. Yeah. Alright, let's see. So tomorrow there might be, let's see, chance of a little chance of rain tomorrow, but it don't look like through the morning. So tomorrow morning's gonna be 52. Um today's gonna be 82. Sure. And then it's gonna get up to 78 tomorrow, so it's gonna be hot tomorrow. Yeah, it'll be warm. It'll be hot. But um, 52 in the morning, man, we can get them off the roof, we're gonna be looking good. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00It'd be nice to double up and then just sit and you know, bask in our in our awesomeness. In our glory. How awesome are we talking to each other about how awesome both of us are. Yeah, we might have to redo this whole podcast. Just tell how good we are.
SPEAKER_01We start out talking about how awesome we are. That's right, right, right. So we are heading to Hemlock Hill. So um uh Alpha or uh Alpha Guy Outdoorsman might uh very well have its first sponsor. Um uh if if it does, it'll show up in uh another episode or two. So if you are on Facebook, go to Facebook and look up uh Hlock Hill and Acorn Ridge at Red River Gorge. That's two cabins down here in Red River Gorge. Um and we are going to eight we're going to Hemlock Hill. Uh two, four, six, eight sleeps eight people in a bed. Um two-story, it's uh got a hot tub and all the amenities. It's a it's a really nice place. So um I'm pretty sure that we got we got the deal done. It's gonna be talking to the owner's been kind of tough, you know, uh dealing with him. But uh he's coming around our way of thinking on sponsorship for uh Alpha Gow outdoorsman. So um the the beautiful thing is if you're looking for a weekend getaway in a Red River Gorge in eastern Kentucky or Natural Bridge, this uh both cabins are 15 minutes away from the Natural Bridge parking lot and seven minutes away from the back entrance to Red River Gorge, and it's actually kind of all the gorge, pretty much.
SPEAKER_00And I've been I've been traveling in Kentucky my whole life, been you know in Ohio, been never knew what beauty and what adventures a couple hours away. I know, right? It's amazing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for us, I mean it's three hours, three and a half hours to get down here, and it's just amazing the landscape changes between here and there. The environment changes, the people change, the environment changes, and you change. Well, thanks, Roy. But um, anyways, go to the Facebook. Oh, here's the good part. Here's the good one. Go to the Facebook page and look up Hemlock Hill and Acorn Ridge at Red River Gorge, and you can take a really good look at the cabins and see what they're like. And here's the good part: if you want to make a weekend getaway or a trip down to eastern Kentucky, send an email to Alpha Gal Outdoorsman at gmail.com and say looking for the weekend getaway at the gorge. And we will send you a discount code with the phone number to call the management company and you will get a 10% discount on your stay.
SPEAKER_00So, how's that for a deal? I tell you.
SPEAKER_01Huh?
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SPEAKER_01So uh one more time, Hemlock Hill and Acorn Ridge at Red River Gorge on Facebook. Take a look at them, then send us an email. So, well we in here. We're about 17 minutes. This is a quick one. We can uh we can add to this, Roy. What do you think?
SPEAKER_00Two-part series or add to this? Yeah, let's add to it. Like I said, all I can say is anybody that's getting out in the weeds and getting out and doing the outdoor adventure, for the love of all that's holy, spray up, protect yourself. It's been horrible watching you go through it. For the love of cheeseburgers. For the love of cheeseburgers and bacon and cheese. Just protect yourself. It's been horrible to watch you go through it. That might be the name of this podcast. That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_01Turkey Bonanza for the love of cheeseburgers. Yeah, yeah. So I'm I'm excited to hear about how uh so you got a meeting with uh the bosses where you work here, and it's like kind of like a safety meeting, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's gonna be our yearly uh kind of uh hot weather meeting. You know, we do uh training that we've taken for the last 16 years. And most of your uh and you got guys that come up from like Louisville and Georgia and places like Somerset, uh you know, a lot of a lot of southern guys, uh a lot of guys from uh Muncie, uh Indiana. Yeah. So it's a good conglomerate of uh guys from different areas.
SPEAKER_01I'm sure them guys will help educate you, but so that's where you're gonna take them pamphlets at and make sure that the bosses get all them. Um read through them. Read through them a little bit before you take them down. It's kind of interesting. Funny thing was, is I went, I'm not gonna tell it. I won't tell everybody this, just all the podcast listeners. I um I showed up at the state house that morning and they had emailed me the packet, but I didn't read it. It's my busy seat. I didn't read it. So that morning I'm standing at the Capitol building, we're getting ready to walk into the first senator's office, and I'm blasting through this info just to make sure that you know it's all correct for one, because sometimes, you know, uh people printers or what might, you know, people from DC, whatever. People like me writing the pamphlets. You never know, right? Yeah, yeah. So reading through this thing, and um, it's pretty good, but it it covers like obviously the foods, and then it covers like um makeups and body lotions and lip balms and soaps and toilet papers and that sort of thing. And then it also covers uh medication. Um you got you so many medications have, you know. If you listen to the last podcast with Eddie Palmer, Eddie had like uh canol cur uh colitis. Colitis? Yeah, whatever that was, yes. And um uh he was one drug away from getting his colon removed, man. Can you imagine? No. And that's the holy grail of the body, man. I mean, the tank is a colon. Right.
SPEAKER_00That's year.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well you uh you know, uh we got a I got a cousin that had to have one of them bags put on, you know, um from cancer. But he said the only thing good about this is I don't have to take a t I don't have to take a I don't have to take a break to go outside and take a lid. It's hard to have sexy time with a bag on the side. Yeah, that's exactly right, yeah. Yeah. So Roy, uh let's see here. Let's think about what we ain't covered. This is kind of a fly-by-night, like I said, we're driving down the road. What gun are you hunting with? Right. What are you hunting with this week?
SPEAKER_00I am hunting with uh the Mossburgh uh turkey special.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you got the 835. Yeah, man. Mossburg 835. And you got TSS, TSS loads? I got them, son. I need all the help I can get. I don't know, I seen you in action. I seen you in action last year. Yeah, I'm sure of it. Reach out there and touch them. Yeah, we're talking like uh they say them things shoot, they say them things shoot 50, 60 yards.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, uh they hold a group that time. Well, I'll be honest with you, I never had a chance to experiment because uh they come running in on us so hard, they were damn near in our lap. That was that magnificent calling from the callers, what that was.
SPEAKER_01The pheromone you put out there. Yes, exactly right. We're gonna get on I-75 south right where you got a mile. Yeah. Um yeah, they was in our lap.
SPEAKER_00Them suckers was was, I don't know, we had a little berm, and some when they come over that berm, they were racing each other.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, they were in a full-fledged uh sprint. Well, that hen they was listening to sounded. She was hot. Yeah, she was hot, she was burned. Yeah. You've been listening to her for almost 30 years, let me do something to you. The same one, right?
SPEAKER_01Right? Yeah, yeah. Sitting right down. And then the next day, because you get two birds in Kentucky, you get two birds. So the next day, Roy and I get out and we bust all morning, and we there was just nothing gobbling. It was hard. And um, as crazy as it sounds, me with Alpha Gal and him, me and my buddy and me with Alpha Gal, we we hiked and hiked and hiked. We sat down by this pond, and um next thing I know he's throwing sticks at me because I snored.
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SPEAKER_01We laid right down in the weeds. But that's a good thing about the permethrin, man. And I'm not, we don't, I this this podcast is not sponsored. Well, I mean, we're working on the cabin sponsor for sure, but I'm not sponsored by any tick spray or anything like that. But um I use that Sawyer's Promethrin, man, and um I soak, we soak our clothes, and that stuff works. It works, and they say six weeks or six washings. I've never let it go that long. I mean, I'm the kind of guy that I'll use my clothes for a hunt or two, and then I'm I'm gonna spray them again just because I want to be short. I want to be short. And in the morning of, you know, um, I always stick some tick repellent in my pocket, um, and then before we head in, I'll spray, I'll get my neck, my waistline, you know, and uh anywhere where there could be some I'll pull my pants up and get my shins and you know that that kind of stuff. Um but um my hair under my hat, you know, and a little behind the ears. I mean a little wet behind the ears, you know. Yeah. But yeah, me and Roy, I mean, we hunted, we hunted hard yet last year, and it was probably, I don't know, what time did you say? Mid morning, 10, 11 o'clock. Oh yeah, yeah, we were we just kind of kicked back in the woods and sat down and it was hot. Yeah, it was hot. Uh we'd been we'd been moving, running and gunning, and just sat down and took us a nap in the woods. And I, you know, as Eddie said at the last episode, you know, he watches the social media sites just like most of us do. And um, you know, when people get bitten and get alpha gal, the first thing they do is quit doing outdoors things. Well, it's a little late now, you know. Yeah. I mean, you giving up, you're giving up the things that you love. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm just gonna take the right precautions. I wish I'd have been aware of it before, you know, and took them precautions before, and I wouldn't be in the in the shape. But I've said this before that I thought I was invincible when it comes to that. I thought I was tougher than the tick. You know, I've been outdoors my whole life and I've picked I I don't know how many ticks off of me. And um, but it only takes one. Yeah, well, it only takes one. My buddies, like my hunting buddies like D-Ray and Roy here, and and uh, you know, Jeff and Brugman, the guys that I hunt with, that I take my big trips down here and down south with and stuff like that, they're well educated because of me. And uh we got a standing rule at the cabin. When you walk in, there's tick spray. Oh, and there, you know what, there's another bottle of sawyers in the closet down here.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_01You can't never have enough. So uh standing rule the night before everybody sprays their clothes, and um, you know, we hand out the we hand out the deed the next morning, you know. Um, and it's just because we all love cheeseburgers and bacon. For the love of cheeseburgers. For the love of cheeseburgers and bacon. Yeah. Yeah. What about let me ask you this, Roy. You have ate some of my meals. Now we won't talk about D-raining the cookies because you know, he didn't like him cookies. Yeah, he did not. But um um He didn't like your emu steaks either. Or uh Man, you know what? I I I feel like I got a bad batch. We was them emu or ostrich? I think it was ostrich. They brought ostrich down. Yeah. And um, I order ostrich and emu steaks off a line. And man, usually they are out of sight. And I thought they were good then. But Donnie got one that had some fat. He had some fat in it. Yeah, it had some fat in it.
SPEAKER_00He was not a fan. He was not a fan. How'd you like it? I I enjoyed them. I was uh, you know, I'd pushed my way to the front of the line, so I got the select portion of it. Right, right. And it was delicious. I mean, I have ate more exotic meats uh in preparations uh down here with you than I think I probably ever would. And uh there's a lot of stuff out there that uh everyday Joes like myself haven't experienced, and man, we ought to. As a just as a group, man. If you're outside and you haven't experienced the array of you know wild wild game, you're missing out. That's right. You were missing out.
SPEAKER_01I mean last year, you know, Doug and D-Ray had them big old batches of mushrooms, big old yellows, they were the size of beer cans. And we come in with two uh turkeys, and we cut the breast off in birds and um beat them down, you know, we laid them out and took a pan and made them, beat them real flat. And um, I can't remember, we used breadcrumbs and flour, I think, or something. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_00We used uh we used um the uh oh uh Brugman, he had us using the uh croutons. Remember the croutons, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he found some safe croutons for me. Yeah, and we used some croutons and smashed them up. That was amazing. And breaded that really super thin wild turkey, and it was like a tenderloin, wasn't it? It was like it was like going to the carnival or the fair.
SPEAKER_00It was like getting the shh, getting a tenderloin sandwich. Big old hand. Oh two two hands, it was that big.
SPEAKER_01It hurt my feelings. It did yeah, but then them mushrooms, we fried them mushrooms up, boy, and uh man, we ate like kings. I I told I said it last episode, and I'm probably gonna say it the next one because we are in the middle of turkey bonanza right now. I'm hoping for that. I'm hoping for that. So um, but yeah, here's one thing that struck me as funny about talking about coming down here because we've been coming down here hunting for a few years now, and um we got a Kroger marketplace right beside us now, and I can go in there to that Kroger marketplace, and I can find I can find a lot of good options for me. Um, you know, and I use the Fig app and I go in and you know I hate the thought of the vegan thing, you know, because I I are not one. I are not one. But we have to as Alpha Galpi, we have to eat a lot of vegan, you know, um, because we gotta watch so much. But you come down here to Kentucky, I mean to drive to a good a good um a good grocery store, you'd have to drive a while. Now we have a save a lot, which save a lot's awesome. I like it. It's cheap. It's got we drive down to the save a lot down there. It's not like there's a lot of options, you know. I mean, for folks like me. So it's like, you know, I gotta hit the the fruits and vegetables section. They don't have no turkey spam down here. Man, I do like a turkey spam. You made me a fan of that. Yeah, that's right. You know, I like it. My grandma and grandpa used, we used to, they used to take me to Canada and I would spend all summer with them when I from about 10 to I was nine or ten till about thirteen or fourteen years old. They'd pick me up right after school, come out. Uh we got a they they now now my dad and his brothers and sister uh owns it, but a cabin on St. Joseph Island in Canada, which is 40 miles east of Sault Ste. Marie, Canada. But my grandmother would go and spend all I'm making this story a little longer than it is, but my grand, my my grandmother would go spend all summer. My grandpa would come up, spend a week, and he'd go home, he'd work a while, and he'd come up and spend a week or two weeks and go home for a while. He'd be back. They stayed married for so long. That's probably right. If you knew him. But we would go fishing, and my grandmother and grandpa would throw a loaf of bread, a can of spam, and an onion in the in a in a in a bag, and away we would go. And that was lunch. They'd open that can of spam, slice it, put it on a piece of bread, and it had to be nice, soft, like wonder bread, you know. Piece of bread, and lay that piece of onion, a little thin sliced onion on top of there. Man, yeah. I don't my wife, she thinks it's disgusting as it can be. She won't eat that spam. But I found that turkey spam, and you can't you can't tell the difference.
SPEAKER_00I remember the day you brought it home, you shoved a shoved a turkey roll up in my face. You gonna you was there?
SPEAKER_01You showed up at my house the day I found it. That's right, I forgot about that. Yeah, you said you're gonna eat this. You're gonna eat well, we ate the whole can. Oh, we did. We tried it cold on the sandwich, and then you said you're gonna, well, if we're gonna do it, you're gonna fry pizza. So I fried us some pizza. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. We've shared. There might be things we've shared. There might be a can in the closet down here. That's just whole basic can. That's right. It could be lunch today, you never know. But anyways, uh, yeah, that turkey spam, you know, that's one of them, that's one of them things. I wonder if they got that to save a lot. They don't have the turkey spam. You that answered that question. I didn't ever see it. Yeah. One thing you did find down here for me, and they don't have it anymore, was that is it bar S? Mm-hmm. Bar S Bar S turkey baloney.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And you come carrying that stuff in, and it had me scared. Because I was like, man, I want that bad. I want to pack me a baloney sandwich and come out at lunchtime and have that. This was deer season, though, wasn't it? Deer season. And uh But I was kindly scared of it. And I read the I read the uh ingredients, and it looked safe, but man, turkey baloney had me scared. But I'm gonna tell you what, boy, I went for it. And I ain't never regretted it.
SPEAKER_00Almost saw you as almost seen that look, same look as when you found out Oreos were you vegan.
SPEAKER_01Man, I yeah. I had to back off the Oreos, son. The doctor got on me. He said, that fatty liver is gonna do something bad to you if you don't ease up there. But it's you know, it's just like it's that that's the things right there, is finding I mean, when I interviewed Josh Martin, that was one of the things he said was cookies. There were certain cookies that he found that he loved, and he's like, You've done taking, you've done taking so many other things for me that I'm gonna have my cookies. And um, you know, so when we find them little things, man, it's it's uh it's such a blessing. Ardo, not overindulge yourself. Well, I ain't got no self-control, Roy. You already know that by now. I've been around long enough to know. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. But uh, we'll have to go get us some lunch stuff. But one thing about the gorge down here is um, man, the the places I have ate at, I think, almost every restaurant down here. We've been coming down here for a long time. And um every one of these restaurants, and this is the difference between eastern Kentucky and Ohio, is I can go in these restaurants down here and I can say, hey, I have Alpha Gow syndrome, or I can say, I have a red meat allergy. They understand that sometimes a little better. But every one of these restaurants down here I can I can eat at. Skybridge has a uh a vegetarian burger, and they make mean burgers, man. That's probably gonna be dinner tonight. I doubt about it. Miguel's Pizza, man, Miguel's pizza makes such good pizza, man. But they have um and they got they even got vegan cheese. Now I'm very fortunate that I can still eat cheese, so I get regular cheese on my I get regular cheese on my pizza. Trust me, you're gonna be glad of that. If I ever get it, son, I'm glad. I had that vegan cheese one time early on when I thought, and it's nothing against Miguel's uh vegan cheese, it's just the simple fact of vegan cheese, I think. But um Miguel's, Miguel's goes as much as I can go in Miguel's, order my pizza, and I get a large pizza, we get a large, we get uh uh uh mushrooms, onions, green peppers, and green olives. And then I tell them, I said, hey, I got alpha gal. They cook it separate, they pull it out, they lay it in its own spot, and they use a different knife to cut it. And then they go ahead and stick the allergy pizza in a box, even though you're eating in. The other pizzas they'll just carry out on a pan and sit in front of you. But the allergy pizza, they go ahead and put it in the box and they bring it out to you. Now that's some service, and that's that's having your employees knowledgeable about Alpha Gal Syndrome.
SPEAKER_00So I'll shout out to them Kentucky and Ohio, because that is just not the way it is in it ain't happening in Ohio, man. They just don't know. I mean, it's the ignorance of of not being educated on Alpha Gal and red meat allergy is just amazing, considering we're just a couple hours away from I know, right? From uh, you know, what seems to be the heart of it that uh you know it's well that's and that's one of the sad things too, is what's it gonna be like at home in five years.
SPEAKER_01You know, I I hope it don't get to the point where we have to have everybody educated, but you know, as far as your cooks and your restaurants and stuff, but it's coming.
SPEAKER_00You know, the ketchup game is harder to overcome than preparing yourself for uh inevitable little inevitability. It's coming. That's right. It's coming this way. It's coming.
SPEAKER_01I mean, so um uh and speaking of home, um my wife and I, you know, we're both very busy people, so you know it's almost like at least once a week we go somewhere and grab something to eat, you know. Um, you know, we both work late a lot, and a lot of times it's twice, you know. Uh in the summertime, spring, and stuff on our busy season. Um Red Mule, and you know how I gotta give a shout out to. I have gone in and explained, I always gotta ask who's cooking. Who's cooking? Because if my cook's not cooking, um I feel terrible right now. I mean Tara's her name. Tara. So I go in, who's cooking? Tara's cooking. I said, uh teller, tell her allergy, allergy man's here. And um, I just explained to her my allergy man, she takes good care of me. She she cleans, she cleans, she keeps my stuff separate. One day somebody asked her, they said, Hey, what's wrong with him? One of the servers said, hey, what's wrong with him? What you know? She goes, I really don't know, but I ain't killed him yet. And it's and it's real simple for her, just keep it away from everything, cook it separate, make sure everything's clean, and she does, and that's awesome. We also go, I've mentioned this Mexican restaurant, you know, so many times. We go over to Liberty, which is Liberty, Indiana, we go over there to Mexican restaurant over there, and um we always usually we almost always, if they're super busy, I'll order off the vegetarian menu. But um usually we get the chicken fajitas and we tell them said, hey, um, I'm the I'm the red meat allergy guy. And the cooks are really getting good at knowing that skillet, they bring your thing in, they put a good cleaning on it, and they um instead of cooking it on their grill, they cook it in that skillet. They cook it in that skillet, and then they bring in fajitas out and slap them down. And I I I gotta give a shout-out to them. But I've had to teach them, I've had to train them two restaurants. Oh, oh, oh. Man, and I almost forgot the most important. So, when I got this stuff, I wasn't a fan of like the Olive Garden and stuff like that. I'm a meat and potatoes guy, Roy. Well, you I mean, we we we swim around the same bucket. I mean, that's you and me though. That's right. So I'd done a bunch of research, you know. I wasn't really doing research, that was social media stuff. And people, and and like Olive Garden has got a great allergy guideline thing that that the restaurants are supposed to go by, right? So um um I was like, wow, man, and you know, the the the manager is supposed to cook your food and carry your food to you to protect, to just eliminate any of the other cooks messing with it, right? So we're like, let's give it a shot. This was really early on. This was really early on. We go over and we tell the server, we're like, look, this is very important. This is actually the first time I've ate out in a couple of years. Um, here's the situation. She says, I'm gonna get our manager, Angelo, to come out here. So here comes this cat. Man, what a cool cat. I mean, we have got to know him so well. When we get there, I mean, he carries my drink to me. It comes out, he he knows what I drank. He'll get it, he'll bring it out, and set it down. How you guys doing? And talks to us. Um, and last, and I always was getting the same thing. Would go over and just get the pasta and marinara, and he would open me a fresh bag of marinara, new pot, whole nine yards, just for me. Well, I've gotten could learn how to control my histamines and doing all the right things. I've gotten way better control. I told our my server the last time, this was like two weeks ago we was over there. I said, I'm gonna try something a little different. I'm gonna try the salmon. I'm salmon broccoli, and um so she takes all the notes and and says, attention, Angelo, you know, meat allergy guy. And um, here comes Angelo, carrying me a drink. He said, What are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean what am I doing? He says, You're out of your ordinary. Are you, did you really order this? He actually came out because he thought it was unusual. It was unusual. And um, so I think in a couple segments uh from now, I'm gonna start a little new segment, maybe uh every two or three episodes. It's called Be More Like Angelo. Be more like Angelo. Be more like Angelo, and we'll talk about, we'll give handouts to people that do good cooking.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'll be honest with you, you probably need to uh to educate people that are seeing this that maybe have Alpha Gal of where they can go because you know, like you, we watched you, you know, right walk around the yard, you know, circling, circling the yard, not understanding or not knowing. Right. So Yeah, we didn't eat out for a long time.
SPEAKER_01You know, and it's hard. That's hard in today's today's working society. It is, and that's something my wife and I, I mean, in certain times of year, I mean, her and I, like right now, springtime, uh, her business is in full swing right now. Full swing. She closes at five, but she's not done at five. She has to water two or three or sometimes four hundred plants and hanging baskets. She's got to get her mulch bin uh rotated around so we can get more mulch in. She's got to fuel bobcats and and get stuff put away. There's eight o'clock. I mean, it's dark. That's exactly right. And I'm usually, this time of year, I'm still out doing my work, you know. And um, so we don't have time to cook every night, especially when it takes preparation like it does for me. I mean, sometimes it's a tomato sandwich. Yeah, you know, which is okay.
SPEAKER_00That's all right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, turkey bonanza, let's get back up. So be more be more like Angelo. Be more like we've had a couple sayings come out of this. So for the love of cheeseburgers. For the love of cheeseburgers. Be more like Angelo. Be more like Angelo. That's right. Yeah, yeah. So um, here we are. We are about what a mile mark are we at? Oh, we're almost halfway, Big Daddy. Yeah, I'm happy. We're almost halfway. Um, so I'm not sure. Uh I I think this episode's rolled along pretty good, even though it's in the front of a pickup truck. Uh. So something we might do is make this a two-part series. Um, and um hopefully got two big, big old uh tops behind us. You know. Oh, son, quit it. Yeah. Uh hopefully got some dead birds, got some mushrooms. I I got a feeling D-Ray's gonna make it, dude. Yeah, I think he I think he's gonna call in the mother-in-law to come over and say, Well, Mama.
SPEAKER_00He almost had his mind changed over the phone. So I thought he almost left his poor wife there just give her. Here's nine glasses of water. Use them conservatively. Here's a bag of flaming hot Cheetos. Good luck. Hope your mom comes over. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And here's the phone in case you need them, but I'm gonna set it over on this counter. Make you work for it. D-Ray, we're only kidding, buddy. We're just missing you turkey camp. And Dougie, Dougie, who's gonna clean up? That's exactly what he said. That is exactly what he said when he left. He said, Who's gonna clean up after that? I didn't break my disc, my dish at washed in gloves. I didn't either. I know. Oh, you're stuck. Yeah, well, I'm allergic. I got an allergy to the disco boys. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, anyways, we'll see if this might be a two-part series here at Alpha Gout Doorsman. Um, so any closers?
SPEAKER_00Any concluders? Let's go turkey. I'm Thunder Chicken bound, son. That's where I'm at. I've been so excited for turkey season this year coming up. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So we're halfway there. We will uh so this is what we're just gonna call this part one. Part one. Part one of Kentucky Turkey Camp. Come on. So thank you all for tuning in to Alpha Galdoorsman. We'll be catching you uh when we'll be catching you on the way home. Right. Unless we get unless we get double up. Final word. Final word. For the love of cheeseburgers. For the love of cheeseburgers, be more like Angelo. Be more like Angelo. See you. Make sure to hit that follow button. And until we meet again, wear your tick repellent.