פרק 15: כששותף לחיים איננו, איך ממשיכים אחרי האובדן עם אינה ריטמן

יש שותפויות שלא מסתיימות גם כשהחיים נפרדים. איך ממשיכים כשמאבדים את האדם שהיה גם בן הזוג, גם השותף וגם העוגן? 

הם היו צוות. הם קיבלו יחד החלטות, חלמו, בנו והתמודדו. ואז הכול השתנה. שיחה כנה על אובדן של בן זוג שהוא גם שותף אמיתי לחיים, ועל המסע להמשיך לחיות לצד הגעגוע

בפרק אישי ומרגש אני יחד עם אינה ריטמן מדברות על זוגיות עמוקה, על אובדן, ועל מה נשאר בלב כשבן הזוג והשותף לחיים כבר איננו.

אינה צ׳סקיס - מאמנת לטראנספורמציה לזוגות ושותפים עסקיים. אני עוזרת לשותפים וזוגות לפתור קונפליקטים שמסכנים את הקשר והכסף ולבנות דיאלוג ושיתוף פעולה שעובדים. פסיכותרפיסטית גופנית בשיטת אלבאום, 

ערוץ טלגרם שלי שבו אתם תמצאו הרבה תוכן על יחסים, תקשורת, זוגיות שותפות והתפתחות אישית. https://t.me/icheskis 
נכנסתי לזוגיות ושותפות עסקית ב 2009 ומאז  כל הזמן לומדת על תקשורת, שותפות וזוגיות, מייסדת ושותפה בחברת היי-טי. 

אם אתם רוצים לבנות זוגיות ושותפות יציבים שמתבססים על אמון, לשפר דיאלוג ותקשורת מוזנים ליצור איתי קשר:

וואטסאפ: wa.me/972545389898

מוזמנים לעכוב אחרי בפייסבוק: 

https://www.facebook.com/share/1GRJTpYH6w/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Шалом, Брухима баим ли поткаст, зугиют искит, Шмейначескис, Ванимиловазугот, Шутофим Искиим, Бабниатшорат имун в диалог. Вееш придод Шахаим Бухарим Бишвилейну, Убапераказе, Анахну медоб Алювдан, Миасугамок, Баютер, Кшибеназук, Ошутафли Хаим, Улясия Нефтар. Шалминах. Нисмихаша и Гатили новихалиси хашилану. Авакдола, шутафут гдла. Змаблица Мафата Зугинафут.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Шелшнайшов та фимлихам кварз. Алмашти машка, моцафот, мора, квутав, проект, ушпила, мурава, анихути лагam адайо, кафа, ми токшу фут амит. Аватернути басиха. Бли домінно, хлотта ми ляви улам, ликнут дра, у ликнут минура улязми урхимкали, анахнутами хлат на биаха. Any dati miat paniti licola licola nisinklini bakola ne marpeotima for some moth debarti me and shame the Germania Bartabri Mexico. Aitisham Varba Shiva Bidud Muhlat Misholi Kana Sabita Zraqa iladim and Khadim Sha Mot Simhutu Vulai Madrihat Kosher Kinaitik Shorat Vzeo Vzew Shiva Kudashim Ka Ele Zotaita Hlata Shili Muhletach Loyeh Loye Khir Vuye Bagana Shilmaya's Nikola Sviva She Kulali V Gobu B Ezashitsura. Gamma Batcheli Gamma Batchel Rahmanut Zenura Zenurali Nadam shen as Low said yoto we kuty kolazma is goru to mash fizit me kolanashima. Lojatat me for you to echihlad it isham shilovizar can be killer bahim bear shilashini shvaregasha mi shui hai tan ye kuklezrahnunyasha nahnugamitan to my veregasha yashinian shel khituliva mashukazunazorle benzukan shutavaratashwa zuchanatano khadashini kijamtihze klapike kwarani kutukval, brikashwamar sha uloyoter, we ralize shamaiti bishwilo saktit sehava. Azartilo, azartilo la lehat vilolis bolioter mashushem rakana shimikruvim khavim akhikruvim nashim shikulimtof shum the bar the name shrinove uirgish the colio. Kolio kol the ka u irgish when you shav the mashwahish loy that him coli hath anya citize the anish lamayim zalaliar beaut harka kolam akravazotem za karvazo mashura na soda.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Kulama fridum layatanu, kulano inuba variga, natanula shuta li shtahba mi dabera lvama od khazaka zahvatama od kasha, adain lam rota matza wliyyadi, upo adayn ulay sha slaya mashui cholištaper, v bemetli shahreu za awama otgdulla al-mash ala kievater al-mashih ala ula ego, ulay ratsunnot, ulay šlayot la gidetay metla tsmi, v l'atli bnadam la lehit z koch ma od chazak, zo ava ma'ot chazakba nai.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

Bay met bayamat rutella zovotia kama sijaya kash, ifara sut mashoh, dma od ken the mash was samaknu e kadalashani, mikre kaze, berega kaze, a thuhla god, killu bishvilish anni ashhiro to bhaimizbol bishwilish ani a vinšu poly ati mashu shwama de la pex.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Vatereh the manyan shatamart che ko la hlato ki baltem bayhat, wepo gama chlata azul ki baltem bayachatmashmay vya chlatah sha'etzem gibarnu ali srim v khameshana alifne.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

Lo kazarnu alzefpa, the yeta sika, shayashavnu be lozuhatefu be Londonanikhoshaved kafe, khofsha tahakit galganu rainusha mzooks kinim shuleh yad ba yad vema marnu tire, makure. Echa na shi manir tali rotat'mainu, kaka, azihuli crot mashu kherba elsa, vasithanu galganuli siha zatva siha zotya ta ghuralit vishvilonga gam shili.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Bhatariyat dibartal ni manuta marche ani nasati amun, vanyudachat nasat gam od anashim, l'ora klivad, wepagasha mar b anashim, we uani shar poba bait levad, va etalham nemanut ma otcha zakaihat l klapay shini, v gamba prida, it'slahtem lishamirtan immanucha etta kolakhaim kami chalouti echat no sat, ehat ma shiraut to kaha vuh kolazman lewat, kzah geve ra martya ni afiluluhu shevetelse, vya yautu davar mitjina tu, pan siperli sheloshay tishimah ina no sat, kolazman nim tetim kolmina nashim.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Ech ech vechha ka za pshuta umam khalisha nigza the dogmam ula zu god echaf shar latet mirhav ish miksui v gamli smhnadam nim taliam lyonim tzaliyadi, uadan itti, uloyha pes odmi sho ba sviva kaha romani the kolm e dwanim sha ni suma tli famim, u ishern man li, vzemakom sha l'ava, zema kom shal mirchhav, atit pathi skit, at tatit pathis kit miksoit v nahnusom kim, sha nahnoumam shahim liot zug, vzeloma frit paininuhmi ever lizi gang shaiti be kolmini siot shaiti shalatusla Maryland, Maryland la kahat oto vilin saoli New York, maita sufach lagim, pitom lo that maiti niit kad kolmi commodo la mkulmini situati, u to mkulmina shim kashim sha vaditi, mitayasha, oya mit kashera lay, kshe lok shit sli laila, la ksheit sli yom, kshiba bokira ni kula shaha, vuyada laqshiv, vuedala sorli, kol de var, v ayomzhan, ranu ranu ra no raam, fria lani uvedam, vedi bhul, vaninusat, we tas, tili brazil, shhafti bez dotatu faze. Tamidwayamit kasharila y gat, y gat matayti sa sha lah vize, wehat markisha, shati tahajt waqsat nasati pa mhwana ve kukahaya khasserli, shanili vadva, raka raka kita zesha loki la dim mott asukim bhaimani gamlum sap avvaladha varzeh echigat veyashant, vaim za vatu aqsha ve ve odmah odmod ħhaserli ve.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Trihz the manin la mrocha moshat mitarat atem llo aitem amonzman fizit bayachat, awali rikshit, tatem aitem kolasman bayachat. Vzema sha shubba zugi. Lom shanikama fizit anahnu bayachat, imanachnu rikshit llo mithabrim, ve koli had riqshit assub mashum akher vloamar gishim hadatashniya, vloom mitakshiri midze, vlomahrih kolasman eh zakimba keshir.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

V atiodat gama nachnui abitu ishela no shuneki wa ebna dam od sanuam od mufnam. Lo verbali kzeshaya ehulashevit will saperal mau margisha ku margishwe la khurli loh. Lo aval atiodat zeshaat margishab nadamba zeshu ehul qut la rim telephon fli shol ehat zakwar zakwar kol zeshilimishu baulamaze, lomeda veratali khpat, mim kha, zedwarahi ahi, kasha bishwiliyayom zeshe ni markisha lomargisha oto dwegli. Way houl pashutlashevet willista kela layut me mishu ma kom la gita yodat ku kahifa tam kze bayarishum kesha ni pula ludba midbabshoti jachas kazeh shundava khulas beirut z atlotriha afgana sil silava ve prahim ve matanot and lo datma shundava zh, psutot adatha ni. Matati sashala atham at b at shutitatakalt gama ishla kutin soa echat ba autu ech the aniit kasharti la bani loidati malasu ta kibize sufat lagim ksenafla bemza at kilat November ver sotabritwa inloidatani noygit, enli kfafut, enli eli waze, eli shundavar, n loidat te phoni nipset, ve a kwish kuluk kafa, ve we ve sof awlam. Telephone, vista kele la maput ba'arat, umerakshafat shalin soya sha bazaninosat yasha sha tay, baza kresha tay, maniruasha sa grocham ta kwish umertop lo khashu, tisiak shaf smolla, ba put'kalin so be erk shaf ulu kyaqat. Bebi sevla nut, we beshakit, wummer yeshla kdelik si milefsha, shielakdelik andi umert litelikelik, wummerti khapsi fulat zor, en' fulat zorber sota prendha mikretta zeshwa yayaiti zahuti cilj wow. Zwvarim ktanim, abal kha shuvim ve shani lo is kaflo af pamal eh ah kamim, ech bait mahare kazahha ver v shotaf olleh.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Ech kamim, ech mam shachim, mao sim. Vhaser pitom e notobana dam ladi mao sim.

SPEAKER_03 37:01

Yeshmi spar, yeshmispar dvarem sha nhushete kolmi show ver thewar kzriihazerve. Nikhševich dvar re shon the keilot, keilot the superhashut, the iladim, the mishpa, the khvarima khikrovim, the kazbonja, khavarimish tanim, maleh khavarim khashut, n sharim kiem lodi mhlistadiritilivad, loj di malasot, lodi malake, kiilot kmo almanim almanot, kilakmo orka, sha ni khavara bha gamat, khavara b orka sha z orka it'siloti begadol, shut. Orli bemat nasatileti yule, nasatiletiule marthani sali tijul bihlal, it'sulitul shil orka, lodat maz orka, kosta rika, vani mabatela tit kolet ni odwarso tabri chili shayul orli kashrailay mrazib tju kisilih. Althilu alt ksipi pama. Bekahhaya pashout shoot it's khavarim Avuda Avuda Zama Shayali Khashuf Yomli Muhuratit Kashloila M Italia Shaywet Samo Vedit Baum Kabraital Kit Vli Yasara Zhaloh Sharba Nisyo, Chai Titha Pashu Leyot Mod Moda Sukha M Gdulim Bemet Z Nora Hashu V Khagim Yesh Khagim Shanashim Sima Abdim Shutaf Lohu Gigim Lochugigim Shanim Ani Akhre Chuchaim Sitit Sliva Bayt Bsibat Hanuka Akis Mihabulam, Kola Nihadim Vim Kola Mish Hakim Z Y Yatilit Yulim M Khabirim V Aval Bihnim Maze Yatzati L Yamamelah, Yatsanu M Khabarim, Hazartil Hedar Bechi Bashut Loh Hulti Loh Hultil Modela Raglay Mirov Hulsha's Afti Tatsumi Yatzati V Hat Latchasek Kashekasarli Aki Lot Avo Da Mishbaha Masha Tumirat Loli Sagir Kesha Bena Shim Shamba Eval Shilayam V Mit Magdim Ba Eval Silayam V Mardishim Shaim Kwarlo Loihem Elali Patahliulam Li Patahli Ulam Yesima Ani Shevich Ot Dabar Hadim Ad Mat Hashu Ani Kul Haiim Samahtia Latzmi Val Uri Vel Zema Sha Nachnu Abal Ksini Sharti Levad Ani Advanti Dabar Khat Murahashu She Enshum Davara Bleusity Able Zra Livakesh Zra Bekes Mini Bikasht Mini Bikash.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Bikashti Ani Kudunkol Kudun Kol Amartya Nim Vakeshat Mi Universe Mimi Menu Nirutza Ani Rutzashi Laval Tiro Kabelis Dragon Chur Kala Khala Khwarch Livuhil Martil Zari Hanipo Parkhamart Ezikela Milon Pam Toda Ezik She Hol Tele Kabele Yes Rali Ba Kol Ma Shakashuraya Bebis Makim Befim Vakoli Pashut Azra Li Damani Gamri Gamri Tagazo Vani Kulkah Mudala Veta Mahbi Naf Samo D'Him Sha Makira Azze Pashut En Milim Kama Kama Tov Yatzami Zh, Sheiskam Til Kabelezra Zektionat, Abval Zema Shu Mod Hashura Zagma Tefet Maatef Anahus Kukima Relos Tam Hugarim Bakielot, Velo Stama Dam Kadmonim Gare Garubakielot Anachnut Associali Chela Anashim Shetomhim, V Ozrim, V Ruimut, Zabiseda Sheroimutos, At Magia, We Animagia Asur Lar Otri Gashot, V Asur Lisaperche Kaselicha, Vasur La Rot Che Kaseliha, V Dafka Po Z B Seda Sherroimutos, Vabehi, Visu Galut Ba Bhec Mia Dvari Kipo Mache Ba Mia Tarbutam Echani Niret Maya Gid'Ab'Ah, Vila Henry Tragalitaper, Witz' Hlit Labesh, Witzrichl Damakorelli, We Shi Zaloyfesh Ir Oti Bucha, Wey Fash Ir Oti Shekaseli, Visani Lo Mista Dere, Zalo Holy K Rot, V Dafka Po, Ešte Cola Halakim Shala, Eshta Hale X Uh Mista Dir V Yod Hale X U Zaku Izra. Li Cola Bituim Shali Codam Coli Kabel Tsmi, Bikol Mina Matsavim Kmo Shaani Hulla.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Imsayali Madkasekani Kulachaim Mishu Lomizmana Marli Shani Dumali Malkamiskuhit Shani Kasekilu Malkata Khali Khair, Kaselikair Shani Skukali Mishu Masu Balishad Livadaka Sidharti Kulzma Aval Fa Ua Bayota Kashu Bait Vaza Let Lipur A Mok Shil Koshi Vadiat Kamakashele Vadbilad, Rak Akirota ele saniasha nizetbo, rakakirota ele yudim efunafalti, kama kasayali, vakama pa mimaiti bamatsa zeshele shanisu netutu trahaga. Sims micha miha Vishama Bur the Batsim Lorbe Nashim Yudimala Dabarazani Davkait Haltif Julita Bera Zebishanachrona. Nahon the Hagagna Bayahathigah beskutehli kaze kaze kazut hagiga ni zuharach baokula ba no kharbbe na shim b kuchharbe shutayamashwani umerak bayba baita zaloita hagiga kazut miashu kala zayamatimisham vani koshevicha sana yomuletich li z pamrishna shaani zamtiya martila chma simba yomuleditamart mashu lifamimim sanetioto aya kas sina al zeshuazav vatliva da ksha rizaragashot mwat Tvim kaslaya. Sina mamaas, lo saneti velo lo ishamti tat smi dabar, lo ishamti utobishumdavar kani ma odmod mami nabagural. A gural the mashu elanu malasutim z kole kal nulagi ma goral shalom, asani ma od mo sham, vani kulalika belle sh Agural shalova marsha u tsarifuta de gilaze, z Agural shalia marsha nihayevit la vourita mifhana zabha n shum kas nashma kashar kamuvana tzar z ayvir the tzar z mashate masha nakna kulim livateh akev mashkaram afval likos lashim no mamasha talasha. Bitagideh shumri malazikaron bli lichyotavar bli lihhiot ba avar um azikaron kunba baituva kolma konta tmuno, twailagin tamidmagi, akikashukash itzahtilitzayrotu, siartit muna, ithati litsayer biladab, mashushway mod gebi, bazishu slap, we should balaila kamti, we tati litzayer, thaltilitsayer bli bla karash, viyatali tmunashalo sha mod chalobil shwaizar, asikaron bekolma kum bulasman po ani lemashalu lehitli kvarot kmosharba nashim shulfim kol shavuab ani pachotma mina ba ba evan shabu aniash uko kolasmaniti nati u lomet bitor nefish. Bitor nefesh u kolesmanite. Atm de loko atmityyezitito.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yesh li arbemo odbemod nikrim sani sani mityyezitito ni mamashmudaberatito anigam yudat kamo wayagebil mashal be mashu sha siti be mashal ahtilil mudshabeb kilubesofaimalahtil ilmod mashu kadash, lamaditilitzayer ani bituha shu aya muodmod mod gebi, bchanitsiha lachlit al mashu gadul, aitali aksabit thalahlit al mashu mu mod khashu khaim vi kulasmana yati baityatsut viyadati she mirov ze kamushuavuti, kamushu ratsa yeli tov aniadati maw yakit, yadati ma mayaru tsepishvili the mod manhut ya daiom madim madim ka baitimu fimato v dan li makor koah, vlo li makor raksilakiv.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

Kula dvarim shani machlita yomsayom levad ani mod ani mod martimaitatsmi, ani giabba tsmi, siti dwarim, sha bhahaim lo khashafti sha ni se kol mi zeshani shanilu rutsali shayru veshumakomba var ani rutsala sut ani usamale uvedat vanasatumedasakulni dvarim khadashim, makirana shaim khadashim, lopu khatit miki lok khadash, ma' odmod smacha shyashli ayom khabirimba khabarot ma' odmod rachav me ma shayali pamp shavaditi, me the Pashub Bracha Madina Bzema Shani Khavich Ni Yusakul Mishhtadele Bishila Sut Kabala Chabat, Lav Hedatha Mishbachat, Ladlik Nerot, Lisakek Mailatim, Lam Zima Shu Kulpam Litzur Khavayotima Man Hadim Mailadim Sport Kol Mid Dvarim Matsuvim Sha Kurim Li Dwarim Kashim Shahin Shalit Mudidita Mazi Mid Mudita Uf Dash Matslihaga So Dvarim Sha Lizal Put Castas Matzlicha Inachmu Misaimot Veni Smach Imati Hulala Tete Zhijica Lashim O'Gwarim She Gam Havu Of Dan O' Nimcaim Bakesar Lifne Of Dan Shia Of Dan Okvar Barushu Otto Kore Majah Shazralah Bahim Lit Moded Holala Teta Yom Kole Loli Kines Le Burut Infsham Likabel Kol Izra Lolit Bayashmi Kol Ezra She Khavirim Zrami Ksuit Zrami Mishba Eli Khapesit Slechauit Slech Kokut Lit Mud Aval Loli Poly Burut Shalom Ehkamim Lili Sha Tef Mishu Loli Shay R Sham Levad Ki Levad Z Batuah Sharlikanesli Avadom Ezra, Kabel Ezra, Bekol Bekol Matzat Loli Sher Levad V Vilam Shik Lasod Dvarim Lasot Dwarim Kolazman Lasot Vili Khapes Ma Otany Bemani Khula Gamla Zor Lana Shim Kharimani Matsatili Mikzoa Shalaf Tilmud Mitoh Zehani Ruanashemba Matsukavani Yod Shaschamani Khula Magid Litromashumatas Yuz Girontolo Yuz Girontolota Nashim Bhila Shisham Ble Sut Tafim Shalem Bhaim Vulhimli Bud Vani Rua Nashimli Budva Sala Zor Lam Li Rot Mam Suko Chalem E Kif Sharit Mudedim Didud Gam Nada Joint Makira Vichomas Holiot Muil Vem Shikla Vod Gamusha A Vodasali Play Manipus Murkishasha Nikola Z Man Hunit V Zif Kif Gadol V Gamba Voda Kol Pamani Kod Ba Vudashli Kol Pam Makirana Shimikol Nam Kumod Baulam Tlachti Kvarla Vod Bashta Mid Yad Netu Ya Basit Tamid Zitar Butashana Shim Kodashim Zekivon Madim Kama Hhaimesbach Imhadelit Madim Inamona Todahlah Gamamon Koa Lam Shikh Imutahi Nuni Yud Vimu Thiuh Vemuto Yofi Vimu Timuta Energia Shut Mishader Todah Col Bish Mod Mishta Delu V V Tudashana Tatli Eita Mirchava Pitom Litabera Luri The Mashush Mashus Movmi Lamu Kilu Haipu Happa Lidabera Lap Asali R Hiblet Smecha Lish Mm