They Wish You Were Born In Minnesota Episode 18: Open Discussion!

Sit back and enjoy the multiple conversations and topics Chris, Chris, and Dylan come up with and vibe with it. We talk everything from the start up of skating and music to angelic beings crossing your path. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:23

So Dylan, I was just telling Carl about Rodney Mullen. And how he's the how he's the godfather of skateboarding, like freestyle, and he does shit that you should not be able to do.

SPEAKER_03 0:38

Oh yeah, I think I heard of him.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Oh, dude, if you get a chance, fucking look him up. The shit that he does is incredible. He does like dark slides where he slides on the grip tape, like he does triple kick flips, like just freestyle skateboys. Because that was a thing back in the day. It's not really a thing now, but he does stuff that you should not be able to do. He's the one who created the Ali Impossible. Oh, okay. And it holds up, man. If you why if you watch film of it right now, you'd be like, what am I watching? Tony Hall? Like, right? This guy shouldn't be able to do this shit. Like, it's nuts. Yeah, I just sent a clip to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

He was in Tony Hawk's pro scare. He was in like all of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:23

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

But I'm saying because the Alien Rosal was one of his special moves.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

In real life, though, he does shit that you shouldn't be able to do, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

You know, and that was that was like that's like how what made them like stand out too from back in the day, was it was like they all had their little signature move. Yeah, and I used to say it was all like their special when when you you know what I mean, when you built up your special meter, Tony Hawk's pro skater, and you could do a special and wrap up like a bunch of points.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Dude, he's the Michael Jordan of fucking skateboard. I mean, you know, him and Tony Hawk, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

But I was about to say the games were named after him.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

Right. Well, Tony Hawk is a fucking beast among beasts, but he was more about air and vertical ramps and shit like that, where Rodney Mullen was like flipping the skateboard and just fucking standing it sideways and doing shit like a magician would do. Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Yeah, like more flat ground stats than more street, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:35

Didn't know Tony Hawk by his first house at like 16.

unknown 2:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Something like that. Something like something crazy like in teenager. His opponent.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

His dad encouraged him to buy it. Yeah. Yeah. And then skateboarding crashed and then it came back. Right, right. Mainly because of skateboarding videos. Yeah. Um, you know, there was what was the original one? Fucking call. Were they on MTV? No, they weren't on MTV. They were just in skate shops. Like you'd go, you'd go get the new skate video. That was like a thing. Run out and get the video. Run out and get the new skate video.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

They had them at like skate stores at Ocean City. Oh at the boardwalk that you could get videos, but you they're not there anymore. And that was back when like VHS and shit was popular.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

And you could buy you could buy them. You would hear like new music on there that you hadn't heard. And then uh magazines were a big thing. So there was Thrasher. Once Thrasher came out, fucking everybody was buying the Thrasher. They had to see the new tricks. They break a trick down, like scene by scenes. And yeah, you just couldn't believe. Oh, Animal Chin was what the big video was that came out with Tony Hawk. And they were searching to find this fucking bird rant somewhere in California, and they found it and they skated it and just fucking ripped it. Like those were the days, man. That shit was tight. That's all we used to do is fucking roll around looking for skate spots. Yeah. You know? Yeah. We go to parking garages, we go to elementary schools, fucking look for ditches, look for shit to hit. Right. And and we had a camcorder back then. So we used to do the original jackass shit, like go through the drive-thru and fucking make jokes and stuff and shit. Man, I missed those stage. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:37

The whole cul the whole culture was was tight, and it kind of and then it kind of mixed in with the hip hop culture, you know? Yeah. But skateboarding had a lot to do with it. A lot to do with um all that shit.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Yeah. We did basically more bike bikes around here because of all the dirt roads. Right. Right nowadays I guess you could skate a lot more, but that's because everything's more paved than it's ever been. Like, so me and my buddies were always on bicycles and making ramps and going on these uh dirt, these dirt trails in the woods.

SPEAKER_04 5:18

Yeah, like BMX stuff.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Yeah, like BMXing was pretty big. Yeah, what sometimes you'd watched like a bout bike on those cliffs and stuff with the because they had the shocks. Yeah, did you guys build ramps and all that? Oh yeah, I did. That's what I was saying. Yeah, dude. Nice. Me and Dylan, we were having that whole discussion about how when we were kids we used to build ramps.

SPEAKER_04 5:47

Yeah. Oh, oh, dude. Stuff like that. Half pipes and spine ramps. And I don't even know where we found the wood. But we would just find the wood somewhere. And then construct it or make a launch ramp. Yeah. Just fucking get out of control, dude. And then we'd uh we'd go like out to Upper Marlborough and and find places to skate up there, like parking garages and shit like that. Like it was so much fun, dude. Just the freedom of it. Like. Yeah. And and skateboarders were cool because they would fucking always encourage each other and you'd you'd always try to teach somebody a trick or you know. I had this guy named HL H. L. Langley, who I believe still lives down Costa Road. He was actually on American Pickers. But his dad was a marine surveyor, and he would build composite skateboards, and fucking he was the one who had a vertical ramp. First vert ramp I ever skated. Which is dope, which is totally different. Dropping in on vert totally different. Like, you gotta be ready for that shit. So we would do all that, man, and just shopping centers late at night, two o'clock in the morning, we'd be skating the shopping center and just fucking hanging out, smoking cigarettes, laughing, chilling. Like, yeah. Yeah, man. I miss that shit. It was for the good old days, brother. Oh yeah. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 7:21

Yeah, me and uh some of my homies last night we were talking about because instead of skateboards, like Chris was saying, we were into uh, you know, bikes, we would take you know, we would each each of our bikes would have, you know, like other parts from like different bikes that we just like around the neighborhood. You know, we would find bikes in the middle of the woods, you know, take some things off of it, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

And you know, that was that was what was cool about skateboarding too. Yeah. You always had to have your little tools on you and you'd tweak it. Or some people liked like trucks that were very little. People liked them that were tight, and it just depended on how you were skating where you would see that. But oh man, I fucking I wish I wish I could get on skateboard today. I could snowboard, but yeah. That's a little that's strenuous. But I miss it, man. Those were the fucking days. Uh who knows how we found fucking gas money, how we found fucking anything. Like money, money for a coke or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

Um yeah, we I don't you all I don't think I'd ever really want to get on a skateboard. Why? I guess I'd try skates, but man, I really don't feel like trying to drive like I'm really not trying to ride anything that I can't stop immediately. You know what I'm saying? Like a skateboard, you just gotta have to either slide or bail or just catch yourself and I don't know. I just don't have the balance like that. Like I the agility. Right. Yeah, the agility, that too. I'll do skates because you can hit your heel and stop. Right. I'll probably try to do rollerblades or something again because that was the most skating I've ever done was rollerblades when we were kids. We would ride our bikes over there to Solomon's in Amory Gardens, and we'd set up a net and get hockey sticks and play like straight hockey in that joint back when they were cool. They wouldn't let they wouldn't let you do that anymore, though, bro. And they kind of start started kicking us out right when we hit like our 20s. Like we tried to do that joint when I was like 21. I remember because I was kind of we were I was starting to drink a little bit at that point, and they were like, no, you gotta you gotta take that down and get get out. That's it's like because we were a friend of mine tried to fucking talk shit.

unknown 10:00

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Kind of funny, you know what I mean? Kind of reminds me of like when like when you get real passionate and angry. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Chris? Because he was he was getting really pissed and yelling at the people, like, what the fuck? You won't let us do this anymore.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

You know, like what? Right. He was kind of putting them in their place. I had a buddy like that too, who was like early on, like a pioneer as far as like I know what the fuck I can do and what I can't do. Suck it. Like his name was A Lane, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

I guess they're scary, man, because we used to race our each other and shit on skates there.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

You know, we all started kind of getting skateboards after Tony Hawks came out because we'd play the shit out of that on the PlayStation. I'll tell you the scariest consistently.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

The scariest thing that I never really got over was handrails. Ollie and him fucking doing handrails. I never really got over that. I did a few of them, but I was always scared to death, dude. I could never really grind. That's like such a regular trick that people do, and it's so fucking scary that your fucking nuts are wide open, dude. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

I could never really grind like that. I'd hit rails and stuff and all you're round, but I've never like. Like I said, dude, I skateboarding is iffy because like you hit a fucking like you hit one little tiny piece of gravel and you'll fly.

SPEAKER_04 11:37

Yeah. I know. But we used to just get bounced right back up. You scrape your fucking leg and get right back up. Like it was it was nothing to us back then. That's probably why I got bad news today. Because we would just fucking do anything, dude. We used to alley gaps and shit. Like gaps that are in parking lots. We'd fucking alley over. I will I will roll that shit.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

I mean, I'm not gonna I can't talk debate too much into that because the w I've never the worst injury I saw was on a bike.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

It wasn't like on a skateboard.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Same at the end of the day, if uh if any of my buddies really fucked themselves up bad to where they needed the doctor that day, it was on a bike. It wasn't on a skateboard, you know.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Yeah, dude. We would or or we would just jump right back up. But I was like fucking 15, 16, 17, 18, you know what I mean? So you you don't get hurt at that age much. I mean, I guess maybe you can, but I luckily I didn't. But we we were doing I'm sure every fucking day.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Oh, dude, you're gonna be able to do that. But like everybody's like, so like you when it comes to pride and stuff, you could never let yourself get broke that broken down, especially in front of your boys, you know. Oh, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_04 13:11

If it we had a go ahead, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Oh, I was just gonna say, you just like you're you're you know, with your hormones and shit all the way up, they are, you'd sacrifice a baby. Right you and your bros to have like a good season or whatever. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 13:34

It didn't matter. You were fucking gonna jump back up and be like, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

I'm gonna yeah, dude, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's like no harm, no fail. You just you kind of have like that that barbarian met mentality, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 13:50

Oh, I remember the same thing with playing football. Like, I never remember fucking being hurt. That doesn't mean that I won every fucking battle, it just means that I get slammed to the ground and jump back up, and that was fine. Dust it off, you know? Same kind of shit that you're talking about. You know?

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Yeah. Dude.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Damn, I I mess those days.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Man, dude. Crazy story about that. It was literally my first day of tackle football. I never did flag football, but so I went straight into tackle football when I was like six. Yeah, like park parks I'm wrecked. Right, yeah, for the Steelers. And I played for the Steelers. Literally, man. My like my dad was like, all right, you know, we're gonna play football this year, da da da. I was like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:44

Go and literally the first game, dude, I'm literally on the line and the the now hold on, were you a were you a bigger kid?

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Uh I was at like six meetings. I was I was kinda honestly I had a little I had like a six pack at like six to eight. Probably like six or seven, I would say. I had like a like a little six pack going. And so I was a bit thinner than than gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

You know So you maybe shouldn't have been on behind, but no, I think I was like nah, I think they put me at like tight end, I think.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Gotcha. And at si you know, at six years old, you don't really do passes, you kinda just hand the ball off. But man, I remember that the you know that ball snapped, and then I got hit so hard, I came out of my cleats. Oh dude. So oh my gosh, dude. I so like so I remember getting hit, and my dad was like, so you know, like co you know, everybody like came out, they're like, Oh man, you know, da-da-da. And they asked me, they were like, You still want to play? I just put my cleats back on and I just I just kept playing. And I didn't stop until like 14. But yeah, that was my first experience with football. But like you said, like you said, dude, you get hit and especially I think especially being around people, you don't want you know, you have that sense of pride. You have that sense of like, nope, I'm getting up. If I if my legs work, I can do it. Pretty much. Yeah. That's how it was for me.

SPEAKER_04 16:28

Oh yeah, and you're fucking invincible at that age, dude. Like you just fucking bounced right back up like you know what I mean? Man. I wasn't gonna fucking pounce. Like I was ready to roll, dude.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Yeah, I've had like I've been through some things in football to where, you know, I would get like anxiety attacks, but but I I liked getting those because I was able to move people better. Because I was able to like the more I would like get myself upset, the better I performed. It's kind of weird, but that's kind of just how my childhood was, is if I needed to like if I need if somebody was like way bigger than me, I pretty much have to like start I like psyched myself up to the point where I got an anxiety attack and then I could just explode off the line.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

And my So you played better, you played better when you were under anxiety.

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Oh yeah, a hundred percent, yeah. The more under pressure I am, the better it was, essentially. Right. Um, and I I don't know why that was. It just like I don't know, but uh like you said it was probably senses.

SPEAKER_04 17:45

It was probably a yeah. Um, I didn't have any of that because I was so used to playing sports and so used to trying to keep up with my big brother. Uh and everybody was older, you know what I mean? So yeah, that makes sense. I I was constantly trying to prove that I was good enough to play basketball with the big boys and shit like that. So I I didn't have any of that because of that. Yeah. Yeah. And because of my dad, just the way he raised me. He was he was usually the coach. Gotcha. People still call him coach to this day. Sama Steelers, Prince Frederick Eagles when the Steelers didn't have a team. Right. I still got all those pictures too. It's a fucking trip. Y'all would y'all would trip out if you saw nice.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Dude, I yeah, I I miss uh my siblings are playing the flag football now, so I'm hoping they can get into tackle in the fall, but it's very exciting.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

Man, it it really helps you. It helps craft the camaraderie and teammates, and we played with people of all colors, so it wasn't a thing, you know. Right. Where uh everybody would harass each other, like bully each other gently, like you know what I mean? Right, yeah. But you had respect on the field, and then they were your fucking teammates. So you know, yeah. There's people I still see to this day who I know I played fucking Parks and Rec with and it it's just man. Oh yeah. When you have that history going back, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

Yeah. I would definitely like to coach at some point, but it it was it would it would be hard. It just schedule wise. I because I've coached before for with my dad for like I think like eight U or nine U, something like that. Oh you did? Yeah, yeah. I was I was the line coach and I helped with the running back a little bit. Nice.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

It was it was so that had to be fun. That had to be fun.

SPEAKER_03 20:03

Oh my gosh, dude. Those kids had me cracking up like almost every day. Like, the amount of stuff that I would shake my head to.

SPEAKER_04 20:12

Like you know, but that's awesome, man. Youth's youth sports are great for kids.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

It is.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Yes, just in general. Oh yeah. Yep. It it really helps form you as a young individual who's learning how the world works, and you know, this guy's right beside me. Like my fucking teammate. My teammate. What's up? So yeah, there's no there's no doubt, I'm a huge supporter of uh uh any kind of any kind of sports that I do. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a great part of our youth. I I would be a different person. Totally different person if I hadn't gone through all those experiences. Yeah. And I I used to I and baseball, I used to be a pitcher, I used to be a catcher, I used to play second base, I used to play shortstop. I played pretty much all the positions and fucking, you know. I would get so upset, dude. I got I got pulled out of the game one time and I was just kicking my glove around and about so pissed. But I should have been pulled out. I wasn't pitching here. I wasn't having a game. Oh gotcha. Yeah, pop the pops pulled me out, I was so upset. I was just fucking kick kicking my glove around like a little baby. But all that stuff kind of crafts you and it it you know kind of molds you into what you what you are after that.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Oh oh definitely. Yeah, I I did I did baseball for a few years and I I remember like I think it was it was my last year playing baseball and like in middle school or something like that. And we went undefeated, right? And then I wanna say we went undefeated, dude. We were like we were winning like, you know, like mercy rule type of stuff. Like our team was pretty goaded. And um uh and it was the first time my dad coached baseball. And so him and his buddy, you know, drawing up things, they were like literally, they were doing mathematics on like it was like they were doing like AI calculations on each of the players, but they weren't using AI, they were just using like MLB style positioning on well, this kid hits like this, so we're gonna position him here.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

Like they changed, you know, they uh went way before the analytics, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

Right, like like they changed my batter stance like three or four times until I got a like a four like a 400. Like I averaged a 400 like halfway throughout the year or the season because they changed my stance so much and they were able to get every single batter to hit. It was crazy stuff, dude. Oh, 400? That's fucking crazy. That's what I'm saying, dude. They were so legit. Yeah, they were so legit when it came to that. And yeah, we got knocked out of the first round of the playoffs. We did all that, went undefeated, got knocked out.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

One year we almost made it to Pennsylvania. We were one game away. Yeah. So all-star, it was our all-star team from whatever our local track was. Yeah, yeah. So we we went to Ocean City and we fucking played. We were like, we had Casey Richardson, who was like damn near made it to the pros. Uh we we had another guy named Jermaine Jones, who unfortunately slid into a base and now is paralyzed from the waist down. But he he was like the Deion Sanders of our fucking club. Like, right. He was he was fucking absolutely amazing. He was a beat-all fucking header, he was faster than everybody else. And unfortunately, yeah, when he was like, I want to say 15 or 16, he slid into a base head first and got paralyzed from the waist. But I I still I still talk to him today, and I'm like, you were the Deion Sanders, dude.

unknown 24:46

Right.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

I gotta give props for props too. Like he was he was unbelievable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

He was uh Ricky. He was Ricky with the ticket.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

And then I had Steve White, who was my neighbor, and we played on the team, and we were fucking best friends, and he was a left-hander. But he was like he was like the big unit when he was out there. Oh yeah. Yeah, dude. And we're talking like 12 years old. We're probably 12, 13, maybe, or whatever. And anyway, we were like one game away from going to Pennsylvania. Yeah. To the fucking tournament. Yeah. Sucked. We barely missed it. But anyway, it was fun.

SPEAKER_03 25:30

Man, speaking of baseball, bro, you've been seeing them Orioles? No.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

But I can't watch them.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

I know. I know. It's all retarded.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

Yeah, with Hulu and shit.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

I don't know. Yeah, they keep doing blackouts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

Yeah, so it's really hard to uh keep up. But we're in first place though?

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Dude, dude, yeah, we're in first place.

SPEAKER_04 25:56

We have Pete Alonzo. Dude, my buddy just fucking called me. Really? And he wants he oh, he wants to go to a game.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Dude, yeah, dude. The uh pr like pretty good seats are around like 40 bucks, 50 bucks.

SPEAKER_04 26:12

It's actually not he's got clubs, he's got club seats. Oh, that guy. Yeah, you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He lives in Cadenceville and he just fucking called me playing guitar the other day and was like, you gotta fucking come, dude. When when are we going to Orioles game? So Yeah, we're finally good again. Nice. Nice. Hell yeah. I love the Orioles, dude. I got fond memories of the Orioles, and they'll always be close to my heart. Fuck the Nationals. Yeah, I can't do the Nats, bro. I rooted for them when they were, you know, doing good and they had their fucking thing or whatever, but yeah, for the most part, I mean I'm fucking all those. Oh yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Sucks the caps fucking missed it by what, like a point?

SPEAKER_03 27:05

Dude, literally. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that kind of hurts. But I don't think Ovechkin's retiring.

unknown 27:13

I think.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

I hope not, dude. And I'll I'll still watch the playoffs. Because I love playoffs. Man's best. But it's not the same when your fucking team's not in it. Dude, I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:27

So we showed huge improvement though over the years. Dude, bro, our young our young players, they know how to they know how to score. They know how to I think it it took about two or three months for them to all clip together. That's why we missed out.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Yeah, it's because that Hershey fucking league, man. I mean, they've got such a great farm system. Right, yeah. That they're, you know, and then Lindstrom came back and he wasn't good for the first couple games. So you know. But he hadn't played a year. Right. I don't know. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

I think uh uh we have oh snap. Yeah, we have a first round pick this year, and then we have two first round picks next year. So Oh wow. Yeah, I think we're gonna um I think over this offseason, you know, like including the draft and everything for agency, I think we can start to at least attempt to send OV off right, dude. Right, exactly. Let's get him another fucking title. Right, exactly, because there's no replacing Ovi. You know, like there's no way.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Oh dude, like he's the greatest goal scorer of all time. All time, dude. I called it five years ago. I said that he was gonna break the fucking record.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Yeah. And every book was always talks when it comes to that stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

Oh yeah. And Gret Gretzky's great, don't get me wrong. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, yeah, Obi has surpassed him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Gretzky was a freak. Ovi was a freak. Yes. It's still a freak. I mean, when you're you know when you're si you know, six foot four, two hundred and forty-five pounds, and you can you're forty years old, and you can still chase down the puck and you can still wind that shot back. And hit a motherfucker. And hit and hit.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

He will hit a motherfucker. That that's what I love about Obi. Like, he's not soft. No, not one. He can get Crosby's soft. Yeah. And he's good. He's great. Don't get me wrong. But he's soft. Oh yeah. Crosby is soft, yeah. Yeah, he is. Obi's like, I'll fucking hit you or I'll score on you. Right. Whatever. What's up, Pep? Or can't believe I can't believe they missed the fucking playoffs.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

Damn. By literally, I think it was a point or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

I think it was one point. Yeah. Yeah. I think so.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

It's usually only by one point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:24

Right.

unknown 30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Cause they they usually like clean house. Right. I've always, me and a buddy of mine, we used to always just cheer for Pittsburgh for the longest time because he lived there for a little bit and fucking we just got tired of cheering for him and them winning and everybody else around us cheering for him. So we I just started cheering for Pittsburgh with him for the longest time.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

If he can't beat him, join him.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Right. Oh yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

It's just like I got tired.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

And I I've never I've never like when it came to professional sports and stuff, I've never like had a whole lot of weight to it. Like I've never felt any kind of real-time passion or what what's it called? Like intensity from it. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

I hear that. I have pretty much like all the local teams except for, you know, NFL.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Yeah, the elephant in the room, we can get that out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Ice skating. Cowboys. That's the biggest thing. And ice skating to me will always be the most impressive sport. That's the biggest thing for me.

SPEAKER_04 31:47

Is like hold on, hold on, hold on. That's why you're talking about you talking about hockey or ice skating in the Olympics.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Ice skating was always the most impressive sport to me. Wait, like figure skating?

SPEAKER_04 32:03

Hockey was always talking about Hamilton doing backflips?

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Yeah, like Hamilton. Like, you know, just even the even that that whole thing where they do the backflips and all that stuff. Alright, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Are you talking about Olympic ice skating or are you talking about hockey? I can see what Carl is saying.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

I like both of them. Right.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

The fact on the ice, it's pro uh I'm I'm usually more prone to be interested in that sport. That's all I was saying. Oh. Okay. So that's why hockey's always caught my attention.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

Well, it's fucking amazed. It does take talent. For sure. For sure. I was just making sure you weren't taking a bit of talent, dude. Oh yeah. I was just making sure you weren't talking about like the dance events or the dance events and stuff on.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Dude, dancing on ice skates is fucking impressive. Hurling at another guy with a hockey stick on ice skates is fucking impressive. I don't give a fuck who you are. I've ice skated, I've done plenty of ice skating. I've I like ice skating. And like everything with like if it's if you're if you're on ice skates and you're doing that kind of shit, that's very impressive.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

That is what I'm saying. Like, that's that's how I see it, dude. Like, if you're on ice skates and do a fucking backflip, you're insane and crazy.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

And I just have one question. Do you like Brian Boitano?

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Ha ha ha.

SPEAKER_04 33:53

That's the original South Park. What kind of what fun do I do? Brian Boitano if I didn't fuck with Brian Boitano. Brian Boitano?

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Hey.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

Oh shit. Dude, that original skit was so fucking funny when that came out.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Man. The movie will always be I love health. Dude, that movie was is so epic.

SPEAKER_04 34:25

They hit the ground running with the great that has to be the most vulgar musical ever. It was awesome. You know, well. Maybe that was the first meme. Like, bruh. That came out so many years ago.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Well, the first mead was like in the 30s or the 20s or something.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Oh well, you just fucking set a fire on that one. Damn.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Can we just say it was them? So well, at South Park? I don't want to give it to them. Everyone gives them everything. So right.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Damn. So we had what'd you say? Uh twenty three different countries, fifty-three different cities. Yeah. Our Easter shit. Well everybody in total.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

Yeah. Yeah. So like so like yeah, because I was looking at it earlier and I was like, I was like, let me check this, bro. And like gain from the last time I looked at it, which was like a week or two, like we gain we're gaining like twenty to forty a week.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

Hello, people around the world. Right. We love you. We love you.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Yes, we do. No judgment of you at all. Well, it's surprising, first of all. It's very surprising. And I think that's a good thing. Yes. Of course. Diversity.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

You know, there's yeah, there's just something where like people in like let's just say like it's weird that they download too, because like I don't I listen to podcasts all the time. I don't download. I just listen to them. Right. Yeah. So the fact that they're downloading them and then listening to them later is fucking cool.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Right. And so some so when looking into it, some are like off of like different platforms and stuff. So I wonder if it's like for specific platforms. Is it if you click on it, does that count as a download? Or you know. If you watch certain if you watch a certain amount, does it automatically say that you viewed it and then that counts as a download? I so I would like because I think it's when we hit like a thousand is when I can really start to see like pretty much everything that we need to know. What the numbers are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:20

Welcome everybody. Welcome everybody from around the world. We're global. We're all of the world. And they wish you were born in Minnesota. Here we are. Right, yeah. Yeah, really. Just having an open session tonight. Next week we'll dive deep. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Don't worry. Next week we'll dive deep. But uh yeah. Just uh just want to welcome anybody who's from any part of the world that happens to be listening to us.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

Yeah, for real. It's very it's uh it's a blessing.

SPEAKER_04 37:59

It really is.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

With the with the skating tapes.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

What'd you say? I said Chris kind of hinted towards it before. With the uh I don't know, that does it's kind of sounds dumb now that I think about it twice. No, no.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

Okay, don't do that to yourself. Don't do that to yourself.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

What say what you say from painting tapes to ancient writings? Oh yeah. Well, we're getting tapes from the fucking 80s and shit.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Right. I see, I see.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

No, it was the the even though because like I don't know, the it it was funny to me that you didn't you had no idea, Dylan, what he was talking about for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

Yeah, yeah, no idea. Yeah. For real.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Like dropped off in like late 90s.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

Oh, because those those those tapes outdate Dylan by 20 years. I mean there's no way he could have known that you went into a skate shop and you saw the fucking new plan B video or you saw the new fucking Tony Hawk video, and like, you know, there's no way he knew any of that. Like Yeah, no, I didn't. He wasn't alive. He wasn't alive.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Videos or anything like that either. You know what I mean? Like you can find a uh a copy of the book of Enoch at a book, Barnes and Noble, and you can pick up a Bible at uh Walmart, you know, or or something like that. They're all like a lot of it, they have compactions of like the Aprophicas and you know like skating tapes, you can't find those anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 39:45

Yeah, oh dude, that was so like them up on YouTube. How would I say uh it was it was the the punk of the time, you know what I mean? Was skateboarding. We were we were looked at as dorks because we were skateboarders, right? Not dorks, but it was it was semi-punk, you know what I mean? People weren't down with it yet. There was no X games, there was none of that shit. We were skateboarding because it was fun. It was fun to fucking do, and you learn tricks, and you you were progressing because like before before you could do a trick, you had to fucking mentally picture the trick in your head, and you had to figure out how to do it. And then you had to Yeah, then you had to perform it, you know what I mean? So it was uh and and and it was the beginning of like jackass shit because we used to go around with a camcorder and do some of that shit.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

You see, that's my thing when I got into like because in middle school and stuff like that, that's what we had was like jackass, and then Ben McGera started to come to the top. So like we were doing a whole bunch of just kind of dumb, stupid shit, and like you know, pranked each other and tried to emulate a lot of that dumb shit.

SPEAKER_04 41:15

Yeah, we were doing that, but not quite the jackass stuff. We would just, you know, go through a drive-thru. Yeah, hey, we're filming you, because my dad had a camcorder way back in the day. With a VHS camcorder, like super old shit. I still have all the tapes.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

My parents could never afford stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 41:38

Yeah, well, my dad worked at the power plant, so he was we were we were privileged in that way.

unknown 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

Oh yeah, I like I said, I just I remember the street team stuff. You would like they had them in like skate magazines and metal magazines, like music and skate magazines and shit. And you would like send them your address or whatever, and they give you like a box full of like pens and a T D or T or shit like that.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

Bigger than that, remember Columbia Records? You could get 12 CDs for one cent. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

Oh yeah, and then then they would send you a bill was like street and stuff, like you'd give them like a little bit of money, and they'd give you like a box full of like pens and stickers and like 12 CDs, 13 CDs, but they were all the same CD and you'd hand them out to people. Oh yeah, so the Columbia Records like skate DVDs or whatever, like you were talking about. Like all the big thing when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_04 42:53

So the loophole in the Columbia Records thing was all you had to do was send them a letter saying, My kid is not old enough to subscribe to this, blah blah blah, and then you were out of it. And he got you 12 CDs for free, basically. And you were done. Because you you were you weren't over 18, so there was no way I should have been able to sign up for Columbia Records and get 12 free CDs. Yeah. And you know, I I'm sad that era's gone, dude, because like waiting on an album or getting an album used to be so tight, you know, you you wait on that fucking new album to drop, and then on the inside of the album, there was artwork, there was fucking lyrics, there was lyrics. It was the whole thing from start to finish. You wouldn't just listen to a song, like you listen to the whole fucking album thing. Right. And you had artwork and you had lyrics, and you had, yeah. Oh, dude, it was so different. And it was it was off that skate vibe too. I mean, same type of shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Like I miss that shit. You get like a booklet. I do.

SPEAKER_04 44:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:11

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Like there's always a booklet that taught you how to play the game and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:19

All of that. Yeah. I just uh you know, uh I think it's I think uh I think the analog shit's coming back though. I think people want albums, they want vinyl, they want the whole CD, they want the whole album, they want Well I I think it's coming back. I do. I really do.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

Well, we are we are getting to a point where I feel like it's gonna be obsolete. Well, not really obsolete as much as I think we're at a point where there is still a hunger for like a physical media. I think that's why like vinyl, for instance, never went anywhere technically. You know what I'm saying? Like CDs and stuff, like they kind of like they're still around, kind of, but a big thing people like fuck with is vinyl. They're like, you know, it's musical nerds and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

Yeah, well, I'm glad to see it coming back, dude. I mean fucking the analog really uh you can't beat it. You cannot beat it. The uh so okay, so there is eight track degree.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

I think uh you you'll you'll you'll own nothing and be happy. I think there's a good amount of people that still see through that.

unknown 45:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

You know, so uh it's that wall is uh is proving to be a little bit more powerful to break through than they thought.

SPEAKER_04 46:03

So there's a eight-track recorder, which we had at my house, and there's uh a C D which is a step below that, there's a vinyl, which is a step above a CD, and there's MP3 files, which everyone listens to now, which are a step way below both of those. So audio quality and fidelity is way reduced compared to what it is. If you listen to what's that what's that fucking God that's kind of I'm trying to think. If it if it basically if you have a vinyl original vinyl record player, the qu the quality that you're gonna get out of that is so much better than an MP3 or or whatever audio you listen to on your phone. And everyone I listen to it on my phone too. What the fuck? Who cares? But it does make sense because yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Because it like the the wavelengths in it Yeah, like are the fidelity is different. Right, yeah, yeah. I don't know the technical terms, but I because I was in the era of taking I I when I was listening to music, I had to take I had to get a computer, I had to take a stack of discs that we bought from Walmart, put it in the computer, convert the music I found on like YouTube or MySpace or anything like that, and then download it and convert it to the MP3 so I can put it on that disc, and then you know, I'll have a record of you know 20 songs on a disc and I can just pop it on. I did I did it too. I did it too. That was like my era.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

And then and then But the quality is so much different, dude. If you fucking get like an actual vinyl original record and you put it on an actual fucking you know, player. You know what? And you play it, it sounds so much better. You would not fucking believe it. And I I'm guilty of it too. Like I said, I fucking go to YouTube, I fucking get a Wells the convenience of like just stretching it. Correct and and and then the instinct of it. Like it's right it's right there. Here we go. Yeah. But if you if you hear the difference, quite you you can fucking hear the difference. It is incredible. Like if you listen to like the white album and what they did there, and you listen to it on a like original version of it and so and so is playing on the left speaker, right speaker, left speaker, right speaker, like the the quality of the sound is so much better. You can't deny it. And it it's proven what I'm saying is not fucking you know what I'm saying? It's not out there, it's not flattered, it's but it's crazy the amount of difference of the fidelity of it. So it goes up, it goes down, like uh and uh the peak the peaks in the bows are so different. Like it it's amazing. And I I don't even know if people get that nowadays. I don't know if they even know what the fuck that is because they're they're all MP3.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Uh oh They probably they probably don't know about the sound quality. They definitely like Gen Z, we definitely know like vinyls and records, but we mainly know them from like, you know, like, you know, in grandma's house she's got one. Or like on the TV, they'll have one for display, you know. Like we've never been interested. We're it's interesting now because they make and I this part of the. You gotta buy the mini disc for it. It has a mini needle with it, you know. They have that, but the full set, I've never seen, like, personally, me, I don't believe I've seen like a full vinyl set. I remember uh I went to an Airbnb once and they had one there, but it was still it was like a Bluetooth version of it. Like it still had the needle in the buttons, but right, but you were able to adjust the volume by using Bluetooth. So I knew that it wasn't like an original piece, it was like a modern one.

SPEAKER_04 51:12

I remember going to grandma's house and she played like fucking 1920s fucking music on a fucking record, actual record, with a needle player that worked, and yeah, to the fidelity and the sound quality is not touched today.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Like right. My mom, well, my father had a very impressive new aged one before he died. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

That played the old school stuff.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Well, it could play the all the old school stuff and it could connect to the computer and like you, you know, control.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Yeah, like modern.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Yeah. Because it was a little modern, but it was a straight up record player, and it also you could definitely hear the quality difference. Like, dude, because my father was always a big vinyl buff. You know what I mean? Like, so he was like one of those like metal heads from the 70s kind of kind of guy. So he was definitely real big into the whole vinyl and uh what was it, the cassette trading kind of deal.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

Oh yeah, well, they had yeah, they had eight tracks too.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

Yeah. Dude, my father, that's that's funny because my father had a truck, right? Like an old ass truck with a eight-track fire in it. Little ass kid. And he had a big ass truck, and fucking that bitch tell it was like fucking the moat, like the motor would get like the front of the truck would get red hot and it would spurt out black. He loved this truck, you guys. And it had an eight-track player and he'd be nice and put on like a fucking kiss album or whatever. Oh yeah. And yeah, dude, that was that was back when I was a little fucking kid. Like I'm just having a joint in or something when I was like 12, 13.

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Dude, the A-Trax were almost like Nintendo cartridges. Like when the first Nintendo came out.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

Just like Nintendo cartridges.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Hell yeah. That's talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

My dad, he uh I caught on to the whole, you know how back in the day you'd think you could blow into the cartridge and put it and, you know, you thought you would clean it out or whatever so you could play your game.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Oh, it worked.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

It would work, but my father always do the the harmonica on it? No, the no, he taught me to do a little cotton swab thing, like just kind of because if you did that with an A-track, it would ruin it. The musical quality. Oh. Yes. See me do that with the Nintendo cartridges, and he immediately knew that was wrong because if you if a if your A-track was skipping and you wanted to clean it out by blowing it out, you'd ruin the musical quality or whatever to it. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_04 54:41

You you know what was better was a real to real. My dad had a real to real. A Sony Reel to Reel.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

I there's a boy that I Do you know one of those.

SPEAKER_04 54:55

Oh, dude, it was amazing. The quality was amazing. It's even better than records. Like, the quality was fucking amazing. It was basically like two film reels, you would put them in, and it would spin, and it was a Sony, and it would play fucking music. And dude, the quality was unreal. Unfucking real. And come to find out, like the I don't know whether the word is veracity or whether what the right word is, but it just fucking the the sound was just amazing. And so clear. And it it was basically like a you know, like a tape, you have a cassette tape.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

Yeah, but we've all always been like well, there was a big cassette tape.

SPEAKER_04 56:00

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, there's nothing wrong with the digital version. I just have problem with some of the power.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

Like I said, my old man was real big into, like I said, he knew how to copy a like a record onto a cassette, and then him and his buddies would trade cassettes, so they wouldn't have to like trade the record and risk breaking the record to copy it on a cassette. And they trade cassettes.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

They wouldn't have to buy it. Yeah, exactly. It was the same thing with uh the Atari 800 XL, my dad's fucking computer. All of his guys from work, they would exchange fucking games, and uh we had over 800 games for zero cost, right? They would just exchange them and copy them onto a flappy disk, and the flappy disk went into the computer, and then you played that fucking said game.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:01

Yeah. Yeah, it would be kind of normalized that stuff though, because people are like video game, when you think about it, video games and movies, if you stream those, you don't really lose any kind of quality to an extent.

SPEAKER_04 57:17

And you're yeah, I mean, it was the original Pirate Bay, dude.

SPEAKER_02 57:23

People were just abster used to be a fucking big thing when I was a kid, dude, like early 2000s, 2001. Oh yeah. Me and my used to download so much fucking music. Me too. Down to like we would like just download shit from the 1930s and like find a whole bunch of like, dude, we we went crazy. And like, you know, my dad, he he completely and utterly like encouraged it.

SPEAKER_05 57:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 57:57

Like my buddies could fill up an entire like hard drive and he would he would legitimately buy us another hard drive. This man was like, oh my god, these boys are building a musical library thing I've ever imagined, and it's really making me happy. Like, yeah, dude, like, because we would. We'd sit there and play like PlayStation 2 and shit and just fucking download endless amounts of music. We'd have pages going, dude. Right.

SPEAKER_04 58:33

Oh, dude, fucking Henry, Henry Rollins, who does he does a bunch of talks and stuff online or whatever, but he's got like I don't know, ten thousand dollar setup where he's got he plays regular fucking records, and the sound is incredible and so much different than MP3 or anything you'll listen to. And he just sits there and listens to music and he does these speak talks also. Like he's he's like a very intelligent guy. I and you wouldn't think so if you looked at the Henry Rollins man and you looked at like he's getting tattooed on a fucking on a fuggy in the fucking desert. Like but but like nowadays he's fucking super advanced and his system is like a ten thousand dollar system and he just sits there and listens to fucking records. Records. And there's a reason they call it records, you know. It's to record. You know. It's uh it's a trip, man. I mean, yeah, if you're an all you're either audiophile or you're not, you know. But even when listening to a CD today, I can tell the quality difference in between that and listening to my phone or whatever. Yeah. You know. Y'all y'all saw my shit. Y'all saw my old fucking Xenon shit. Oh yeah. Fucking picking up sound waves, dude. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:23

That's what I was real big into like I kinda miss like when I I kinda miss when bands would just go into a studio and just like play. Like I wasn't big like into big production bands and stuff like that. I don't know. I was always into like punk rock and stuff like that. And plus, like you were saying, like ACDC back when they used to record albums and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:58

Oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

Recorded for destruction. Yeah, you know, when they just kind of all would step into the studio and just kind of try to do their thing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:12

That's what I'm down for. Yeah, yeah. That's why I like that's why I like the Lincoln Park and uh Jay Z shit. Like they just stepped in and were like, fucking, let's go. Let's fucking let's make a mess. What's up? Oh yeah. I had the whole fucking DVD. I had the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

I don't know. Because Lincoln Park when they did uh reanimation, usually they do that kind of stuff was like they'd make an album all together, and then like they'd come out with a remix, and that would just be like Mike Shinoda or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:53

How the how in the how in the mix it up? Well, I would just say and I would say in confidence that how in the fuck were Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell on the track of taking down these pedophiles and they all they both supposedly suicided themselves? How about that? How about that guys? Dude, that's how I feel about Trevor Moore. How how about that, guys? Like two of the greatest fucking artists. I mean, come on. Come on, dude. What the fuck, dude? There's something fishy going on here.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

Like Yeah, dude, did y'all hear man, what was it? I might have to look it up, but it they just found like there's a a ninth scientist just died recently. Let me look hold on, let me look it up, because like there's more context to it. Like a bunch of scientists have been like working on something for either for the government or like just something, and then all of a sudden each scientist just kept dying that was involved with it, and they just found the ninth one dead the other day. I did hear something about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

What were they working on?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

I'm about to look it up. I don't know if it had I don't know if it was like outer space stuff or if it was uh nuclear stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:23

Uh so like Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were supposedly abused as kids, sexually abused, and they were on the trail of these motherfuckers, these pedophile motherfuckers, and they both got suicide. So I would like to just say that so everybody knows. Yeah. It's uh real suspicious kind of really suspicious thing. I know, but it's really suspicious uh what happened to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:07

You know how I kind of look how I kind of look at it though at the end of the day is like I think if you're like a depressed per person and Chris Cornell and you know they they've both and Chester Bennington they've both discussed about being like depressed and struggling with depression, you know what I mean? Yeah, just yeah, and I think like Hollywood with depression is like ultimately like fucks fucks with people really bad. Whether whether they whether they get themselves really deep in some shit and they try to off them or they just like straight up can't take like so it's okay that they got suicided anymore, like on top of being depressed, they're like these faces in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:01

I don't think it's okay they got suicide now. Ways.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:05

And and that's that's the scary thing, is it can be hard to tell.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

Uh correct. Correct. I would agree with that. Totally. Yeah. It's uh it's very hard to fucking tell. But it seems like it seems like these two guys were on the verge of calling out these motherfuckers for their sins. Right. And they got fucking they got fucking knit both of them around the same time. Crazy. Uh I don't know, coincidence? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe it didn't happen like that. Maybe it did, I don't know. But both of 'em were fucking good friends, dude. And they were headed down the road of trying to help people. Who had been fucking abused by these fucking rapists?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:05

I do want to hear something now that you're saying something about that, about Chester Bellingham.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:10

I ha I have to. I have to.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

You might want to hear this, Chris. Is I do. Did he have you heard their new shit at all? Lincoln Park, like the band? No. No. It's a new album, right? Not too long ago. For real? Chester Bennington with this chick, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:34

I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:36

Well, after the podcast, go listen to it. It's okay. It's like, you know, your typical hard rock rap kind of new metal, like it's alright. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:48

Same producer, same producer, right? Yeah, a lot of the teen.

unknown 1:06:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:54

Okay. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:56

I guess. You'd probably like it if you really like Lincoln Park. I did. But the lead singer that they have now, the girl, she used to sing for another band, like a heavy metal band that was kind of popular. I can't remember their name here. I'm gonna try to look it up. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:19

So hold up. Yep, yep, yep. You're good. You're good. Oh, a huge LinkedIn Park fan. Oh, you are? Oh yeah. That's kind of fun. Lincoln Park fan, too. Fucking love it. Love it. Love it. Dead Sarah. Dead Sarah. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:44

She she is she was in another sang for another band, heavy metal band called Dead Sarah. And she has her ties in Hollywood that she got from Al the church. What is that church? Tom Cruise's thing. She's so big into it that she was one of the people that supported that dude that played Hyde in the 70s show with his because he raped that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:21

It was in fucking jail.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:24

Yeah. Daddy Basterson, that's his name.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:29

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:32

Because I like I said, I've never been one way or the other on those conspiracies. But when when they dropped that album with her uh replacing Chester Bennington, I couldn't help but be like, that is ironic.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Like it's yeah, it's like a plan almost. Yeah, exactly. That's what let's get these people back together and just send out a you know sinister message. I don't know. That's what I kind of think.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

Oh, you know what? Maybe maybe since Chris is a big Lincoln Bart fan, he'll sit down and really give it a listen.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:13

People that I will.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:16

I will. Y'all, so while while y'all were talking, I I was able to pop up what I was talking about. And it kind of it kind of relates to what y'all were saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:27

Well, what was it?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:29

You alright, dude. Are y'all ready? Alright, give it a give it to us. Give it to us. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:35

Alright, so there has been there there is a specific part contracting currently in a major comeback era following a seven-year hiatus from uh singer Chester Bennington. Oh, whoa. I didn't realize this. Go ahead, I'm fine. Oh, you're good.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:58

I'm just looking at it. So it's it's it's basically a governmental like a jet reverse engineered type of company. So they bring all of these, you know, nuclear scientists, jet scientists, and and and people and they they've brung in scientists that are known to have a UFO alien type of background. Okay. And there's like ten of them, and from 2023 to literally the guy that just died was a few weeks ago. They they they've just been plucking them off one by one. Because most of them have no cause of death or an autopsy that has been released. Damn. There's this one girl, not girl, this one woman, she was out hiking in California, and that was last year about that, and they still haven't found her. And uh okay, the one in New Mexico, she was basically abducted in New Mexico and her phones were left behind and completely wiped.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:15

Uh I mean wipe up nowadays. Right. Right. That's my thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:21

Like the best the best technology would be like, you know, the government. Uh another one, another one died by suicide, and a lot of the other ones are just like s it literally says circumstances unclear. Like, and they've all they're they were all close together, they were all working for the same thing, but every single one they have in common is is that they belong to UFO communities on the internet. St. Yeah, so they believe, you know, the conspira the main conspiracy is that they were about to go and whistleblow the entire project that they were working on, which was reverse engineering a crash.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

So what do you what do you guys think about uh all the newest shit that's come out about aliens and disclosure and you know a smokescreen or well, I don't think it's new.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:29

Like they say that it's new, but me and Chris, we've talked about it, and like there's stuff from like the 90s that they're saying that's new. It's not really it's not new to them, but it's new to us. No, I'm talking about like they've released they've been releasing documents since like the early 2000s that have been like so under the radar, and then and then because like some of them are just crazy as fuck, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

So like because you understand it's it's basically common knowledge almost now that there's like a whole government entity that specializes in UFO misinformation. So like real credible internet like UFO researchers and stuff that like right, like the guy from Blink 1882 who make fucking seems to be fucking bullshit. Well, yeah, well, that's what I'm saying though, is like because doing that forever is like you know, dropping leaked government files and stuff like that that are like basically by the government to like don't have information to throw people off. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. You know, and because you're talking like you you like they had well, because like Dylan was saying, it's like they have stuff coming out now that like that's been out like if you're on the internet and stuff and looking this shit up all the time back in like 2008 and shit. You know what I mean? It's nothing new to you. And it's a lot of it's the most wild shit anyway. So you know that like everything they're trying to throw at people now is part of the misinformation campaign that they were doing like way, way back in the day, like you know, 20 years from now. Right. I don't know. Yeah, I was dig into that and shit on the internet was like, you know, UFO stuff and leaked government documents and all that kind of crazy stuff, you know, because like I was always very like that phone call that came into the radio station with the dude that was saying he came from Area 51 or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

Yeah, Ark Bell.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:51

The Ark Bell show. Got really famous. Ark Bell show is awesome. Had it in their album, they put it in their like other bands put it in their album too. But really famous because it was kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:04

Well, what do you uh what do you think about Bob Lazar?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:09

Yeah, Bob Lazar's that's yeah, because that's who really came on the scene.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

I mean, dude, he's never changed his he's never changed his story.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

Yeah, personally, I kind of believe him.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:23

I believe too. I believe him too. Yeah, believe Bob Lazar. Because like, and I because his stories never change, dude. If you lie, you're gonna fuck shit up.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:36

You're gonna fucking or you add shit right. Right. Add stuff, and he's never really added anything or anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:44

No, it's always been the same. It's always been the same.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

I think he's probably gotten more theatrical or learned to get more theatrical about it since they did that movie like three two a year ago or something. They just came out with a video about him, like a whole documentary about him.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

Disclosure, disclosure project, or whatever it was. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

Because I watched that whole episode with Joe Rogan when he talked to him about it too.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:12

Me too. Me too. Yeah, because I've dude, I kind of just had him on.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

I kind of even applauded Bob Lazar for being the more like rational one to a deep conversation, and I kind of applauded Bob Lazar for being the more conservative guy. Yeah, he was more rational, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:33

Yeah. To the point where, you know, because the Joe Rogan was being kind of liberal, and I kind of liked how he stood his ground when he was like, you know, I don't know, man. Like sometimes it's just should would it would it even benefit or just make things worse if shit got out? Right. Like saying like how he felt personally about how big his story got and stuff. And he was like, you know, sometimes I wonder, did I do the right thing? You know, and he was like, Well, of course you did the right thing. And he was like, Yeah, I don't know, man. Sometimes I I I think twice, you know? And I I kind of appreciated him for that. Like, because I I too think it's a real difficult thing to that, because like if you think of it in like supernatural and extraterrestrial, like at its core, you're you're talking about a really scary thing, you know, and and it's like it's one of those things that what once you let once you open Pandora's box, you can't close it.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:42

Right. Right, right, right. Then it's over and everybody can see it. And yeah, yeah. I I I don't I don't know where I stand on it. It's like, you know, I think I think there are other beings, and whether or not they're futuristic humans that are coming back in the past to change things or not, or demon direct. Right. Then we're talking about time travel and Nephilim and you know, it's it's very complex, and people just wanna wanna sleep by that.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:26

Now that with like AI and stuff like that, we're living in a world where like you'll see like opposed video evidence of flying saucers and stuff like that, and it's like you can't help but ask yourself, is this true? Like, or is it AI? You know?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:45

Right. Well, that's where they make it real difficult, and I think almost on purpose, because like chaos is not over. And so they're trying to keep it chaotic. Like, you don't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah. The only one like a plan.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:06

Like a plan. Well, the government wants to own the and own the internet. I'm I'm pretty certain that that's like their big thing. I was trying to they already do.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:19

That's why I was I was about to say the most trustworthy alien videos that I see is from military planes that have cameras on them. And you know, they they the one video has the one bomber, it dropped three bombs on that one thing and it didn't even do anything. And then it just all it just all of a sudden like switched straight up and then just disappeared. Like, I would rather believe that video over somebody that recorded it with their phone. That doesn't mean I you know, that doesn't mean I fully trust the government. It's just that's what they provided. Now that's fine. But what you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:02

Do you think um do you think aliens are humans from the future?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:11

No, I think just me personally, I believe they were they're the demons that have I think there's something there's something definitely strange that even before, you know, Jesus was born, you know, there's there's there's paintings and writings and stuff like that about these aircrafts, right? Well we didn't we didn't invent we didn't invent the plane until what the early 1900s or something like that with the Wright brothers. So like 1929 or something. Right. And at least a effective yeah, at least an effective one. So it's hard to s I I don't I I don't know if they're like from the future. I don't know if they're from out of this like out of like earth itself. I believe they're demons that come through here because if you think about it, they're they're they exist on a different plane than we are. So how can they besides God, like I don't think when Jesus died he rode into like a UFO, like I don't think so because he's God, but like when it comes to demons traveling and stuff like that, like I feel like you believe that the Nephilim are still here. Basically Nephilim's Nephilims are here, but there's a difference between Nephilims and demons. Demons demons are the literal fallen angel that that made it with the women. The offspring is the Nephilim, which I still believe some of us do carry that Nephilim blood.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:08

So they're probably they're so they're probably still around.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:11

Well that's yeah, that's where we get what's they're saying. Well that's that's where we get, you know, people that are seven and a half feet tall, eight feet tall. That's why we still have them today. It's it's from that. I mean, I view them as demons. You know, I view them as have you looked into the blood types.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:34

Yeah, there's I agree with Dylan to to a degree. Sometimes I wonder if they could be angels of some sort or any other kind of being that's would be on God's side or whatever, but I don't think they would interact with us in terms of like actually trying to speak with us or give us commands or you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:58

Because well, it's happened before, why can't it happen again? That's what I'm that's why I think they're like they're definitely of an angel lick like an angel angelic being of some sort. Right?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:14

But like I said, I just I I don't know either, you know? Paul was a wicked ass movie Paul, I like that movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:30

I I see I can see an angel, you know, like coming down and talking to hold on, well let me find the I'm back at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:49

I I some t you know, cause sometimes I wonder about like at when I think about like intergalactic travel and stuff like that, if it's like a possibility, if like or if it's like, you know, space and intergalactic travel somehow connected to the uh like we were saying, the other side, you know. Like that movie Interstellar. Spirituality, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:17

I I I like that movie Interstellar. I really did like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:20

Yeah, well who was that? Was that Matthew Bacote?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:24

Yeah, yeah. I really, I really did enjoy that movie. Because of the the the time thing, and then how he was trying to get her to get the book and push the book, you know, and like I don't I don't know. For me that movie was was go. It was alright. I thought it was good.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:49

Okay. So alright, so here's two here's two verses that I'm trying to say. Hebrew Hebrews, they're both in Hebrews. Chapter one, uh it says verse fourteen are not all angels ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:14

And then another one is do not read that, read that now.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:23

That's the ESB version. Let me get like a a version I'm used to understanding. Hold on. Hebrews chapter one. Alright. Are not all angels ministering spirits tend to serve those who will inherit salvation? So essentially indicating that angels continue to minister to Christians under the under God's direction. Not that we invite them in, but it's if if a specific spirit from heaven needs to come down, it will. And it also in Hebrews, uh, let me get on chapter 13 here, it says, keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospit hospitality to angels without knowing it. Wow. So I bel that's the thing. I believe angels are sent down here in certain times. I feel like they're all around. I mean not all around, but I I can see angels staying here for a period of time going back up, you know, doing God's work with us. But I also see demons doing the same exact thing. I see demons coming up out of either hell or they've been stuck on earth until they have been delivered. You know. So you know, if we if we if we're gonna take the Bible literally, then I would I would assume that angels and demons come onto the earth. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:10

And is there there is there a point at which we could deliver them and Exodus them from our realm? The demons, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:25

Yes, yeah, demons yes, but because Jesus Jesus himself delivered a lot of demons when he was alive on earth. A lot. And he gave that power to believers that believe in him. He gave us the authority as you know, as Christians to to eliminate them. Exodus them from our realm. Yeah, there's a few different ways of doing it. You can cast Them out and not send them to the foot of the cross. I've been, you know. I've been there. Every and Jesus Jesus actually talks about uh every time a demon is expelled, it goes into a deserted place and it is very thirsty, and it's very it's it's basically so thirsty that it literally it's it's literally like they're going out to the Sahara Desert and they're and they're crawling back to find a human that is impure and you know it and that's basically what he talks about. So can can demons and angels, you know, and also in Revelation it talks about how a chariot, you know, Jesus and the angels come in on, you know, horses and chariots. Well, do you think John the visioner was trying to say an aircraft? Was he trying to say, you know, like you know, airplanes have, you know, jets, you know, we have they have wheels and that whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:14

I've always liked here, and here it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:19

Yeah, so I I've always caused uh what is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

It was in uh when they t in Ezekiel chapter one, verse four, and I looked and behold, a war wind came out of the north, a great cloud and a fire enfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures, and this was their appearance, and they had the likeness of a man. Yeah. Well, and I surprised w is like angels almost, I think, and everyone had four faces, and everyone had four wings, and their feet were straight feet, was like the sole of a cat's foot calf's foot, and they sparkled like the color of b burnished burnished br brass, and they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides, and they forehead their faces and their wings.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:33

Things were joining one another and turned not when they went and went everyone straightforward.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:41

A dream. Dream years ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:45

It's pretty trippy, isn't it? But I've I've always just remembered people comparing that to like a UFO.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:54

Right, yeah. Twenty years ago, I had a dream. I was coming up Smokey the Bear Hill. You guys know where that is? No, I don't think so. It's on two and four, right before you hit the Yeah, yeah. I guess. That used to be Smoky the Bear Hill. So anyway, I had a I had a dream and I looked up in the sky and then all of a sudden everything had changed. And I could all of a sudden throw throw my hair off my face like a goatee or whatever. And it looked like fireworks, but everything had fucking changed. Everything had changed, and the world was a new universe, and you could you could manipulate forces, you could do different things, and all everything can change. Like as soon as I think I had that dream. Yeah. And I the best way I could describe it, it was like a matrix, like all of a sudden I could uh I could change everything. Like and it was so fucking real. It was so fucking real that I can't explain it, but I wish I could explain it better, but anyway. That was pretty much a crazy dream. I looked up in the sky and I saw all these firewalls and all this shit going on. And then all of a sudden people could manipulate gravity. They can manipulate form, they can manipulate everything. And uh yeah. It's it's always stuck out to this day. I I just bring that up. Yeah. Seems like a good time. Oh yeah. Yeah, I think for like an hour and just stand in the sky for like an hour on what the fuck just happened. And it seems so real. It was like things were all different. Like you could manipulate everything about terrorists, about you know. I guess I'll never know if it was real, but it felt real. Like Doctor Strange kind of stuff. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So I just want to share that with you guys. Yeah, man. It felt real. I played a little bit of Marvel Rivals earlier today.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:47

Doctor Strange is one of my maids. Yeah. It was so we have three tickets.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:00

Really? Do what? Yeah, we gotta we gotta got a good shit done, but it was like three tickets. Like three snow is balls. Wow. It was one of the easiest. I think that kind of wraps it up though. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:28

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:31

Share my dream.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:33

Well. Well, I did read something from the old testament, so I can see how that inspired it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:43

Yeah. Sure. Dylan reads. Here he did. Talking about angels. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:50

He did Ezekiel, I did Hebrews.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:53

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I I I I when as soon as you said we're talking about that, I was like, yeah, they have this this one too. They because those are those are because I think they've both been on ancient aliens. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:11

Yeah. Probably. That's that's uh sure. It's good visually. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:23

Yeah, like I think I like I I I've always was really fascinated with a lot of archaeological stuff and ancient history. Because it's geology. You know, you know what I'm saying? Like popular people were watching and it just comes crazy with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:48

They have great they have great visuals. Like like great visuals, like you know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:58

You don't want to get more theatrical, especially with a TV show.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:03

A lot of the people that I really liked fucking got booted off the show though.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:09

I don't I don't know what the deal is with that, but uh more prominent like archaeologists and stuff, they can't get really behind what's you know, like because I would just argue the thing about ancient aliens is they they didn't they didn't know when to stop. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:28

You know, season five, season five is probably good like season 13 or whatever. Cause George and a lot of the people on there were fucking really good Susan How and you know, I yeah. They I just think it went on too long.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:51

Yeah, and like I said, after a while, you can't be a you you it it would be hard to to you know keep going along with some of their shit and like still consider yourself a professional archaeologist, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:11

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