They Wish You Were Born In Minnesota Episode 22: Ai Data Centers Evil?

Sit back and relax to our take on the growing topic of Ai data centers. We discuss the good and the bad. Could this be the end of humanity or the start of a new era? Listen and enjoy. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:21

Alrighty. Talk away.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Oh. All right. What were you saying? What were you saying?

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Well, when when the the little bit of research I did about the AI data centers, right? I I kind of come to the conclusion that it's like, I want an AI data center. You know what I mean? That would be a cool ass fucking thing to own. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 0:47

Dude, I tell you what, it'll take me about 15 minutes to get to your house and I'm gonna fucking annihilate you. Oh man. Dang it. We're starting this data center discussion out with No, I'm just kidding. I'm not going anywhere. But I can't believe you've flip-flopped. I'm just surprised, that's all.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Well, I'm not saying that there are anything good, that there's anything good that comes out of them. I'm just saying that's a lot of information and computing power, you know, stacked into in into into a little building. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's a pretty big mass of because they're they're basically just like traditional data centers. Only way more beefier and like like it's like basically your typical data center only on fucking steroids. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Right, a bunch more servers and shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Yeah, so you have like so basically you have so many different like programs and like artificial intelligent models that that basically people just like fuck with on a consistent basis. And I found that very interesting. Like I said, to the point where it was like, dude, that would be fucking super sick to own one and to be able to see how that shit plays out like every day. Not to mention, I don't know. One of those computers are probably pretty badass. That's a lot of fucking RAM. But we're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

It would be one thing if they were fucking gonna give us like a piece of the stock or something, and then we could get excited about it, but we're not gonna own it.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Well, you know, that's funny because like as far as like uh Well, because like if you were to play devil's advocate for them, the best argument people have is the whole arms race thing. You know what I mean? Which I'm still but see, yeah, Dylan Dylan was saying some stuff earlier that makes a lot of fucking sense, though. And so, like, I think you know, we really do need that conversation, whether you're for them or against them, right? This conversation has to happen because we have to keep it close to our chest. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like everything that we use this technology for to better our lives or whatever, we gotta keep it close to our chest. Otherwise, other people, like enemies, will use it against us.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

Yeah. Yeah, but to me, it's not much different than good Google or anything else. Like, the technology is gonna be out there and it's gonna spread to other places, like whether we like it or not. And you know, they try to scare us with oh, we have to be first in this AI race, just like they were with the nuclear race, just like they were with the Cold War, like every fucking change race. Name a situation in history, yeah, yeah, where they didn't try to scare us into getting something we don't really need. In my opinion, we just don't fucking need it. Like, yeah, we can't.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Well, because the whole thing is like the military complex, it's it's for the weapons. Like, that's what the governments are screaming, like, it's for the weapons. We don't want communists to get a hold of these these advanced weapons. And it's like on surface, that's a great argument, right? On surface. Okay, but they have been saying that for you know eighty years, I'd say. And for sixty to sixty to seventy years. My whole thing is like Yeah, so what are they saying?

SPEAKER_03 4:38

That that they they could they they could capture like our weapons and take them over with AI and that type of deal. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_04 4:48

Or develop they're trying they're what the US government is saying is that what China and Iran and what Russia can do is basically get these super uh because China uses Deep Seek. Like we use Grok or AWS or Gemini, they use Deep Seek. They're basically saying that China and Deep Seek are working on like this huge weapon to basically from AI that can like wipe out the entire world if it needs to. Like, screw nukes, like it'll make nukes look like nothing. Is essentially what the governments are screwing. You know, like our government, Europe, like direct uh Israel, direct to energy weapons, energy, all of yeah, anything you can think of, you know, you try to you it's basically they want a supercomputer to generate weapons for them. And on the surface, that's like, yeah, let's stop that. But like, we're damaging hours, like we one, we do not have the energy grid to do this, okay? Because I just I just spent like an hour researching on uh Kevin O'Leary. Kevin O'Leary has a uh a uh permit for Utah. He's he he owns 40,000 acres and it's just gonna be straight data centers. And basically his rebuttal was well, it was all about China, first of all, and the other thing was he is the the Utah government is going to enforce such strict policies that it does that on paper it doesn't produce any any humming noise, it doesn't produce any light pollution, it doesn't produce it doesn't take away water, it's through the gas pipeline that barely gets used. Like on paper, there are these rules and regulations that every single data center has to apply, but which is also enforced by the sheriff of that said county, but we we seen in Boston and Northern Virginia and all over the country that they don't follow these rules.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Yeah, boss. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. They never did. Right. No, and who's gonna enforce them? Right, exact it it's supposed to be the sheriff. Right. Right, well, uh imagine when that sheriff is not elected anymore, a new sheriff's in town. Like I just you know being I'm stuck in nature.

SPEAKER_04 7:29

It it's definitely it and the other thing is is like, well, how about all the H1Bs, the visas that are going to get you know funneled through here? You know, like when I was researching it, it said that Amazon doesn't really like to use visas. They would rather use like local people, but for their data centers. But like, how do you how how can you trust that?

SPEAKER_03 7:54

My question is, is one of the reasons that they're pushing for this data center, is that because of the Amazon factory that wants to come in or or is it totally separate?

SPEAKER_04 8:06

I think they want it for the sole reason that one they're offering so Amazon is offering, I think, like fifty million dollars and to cut our property taxes, and Natale holding company is offering thirty million dollars for new parks for the schools. So like there's each data center with their company, like they offer something for the community, and that's been like a going thing, but it's like what are the the pros and cons about this?

SPEAKER_03 8:42

Are you going to are we going Yeah, this well this the same thing with the gas plant and they're gonna take over Cove Point and they're supposed to rebuild a new park? This was the pond years ago with the gas plant on a little Cove Point Road. Right, yeah, Dominion. I haven't seen any new I haven't seen any new parks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:04

I'm just saying. Nah, dude, they've been um dude, there's even uh and we'll get into this a bit later, but there's even a uh a person running for the Lesby district, Patrick Flaherty. He he came out and got pu uh got public records stating that, and this is a serious allegation, that Dominion gave the commissioners six million dollars for this said park that we were supposed to get years ago, and the money the money has like totally vanished. They basically took the private lot, made it public, and then and then sold it to companies, to these big institutional companies.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Well, because I like for all that. See, back in the day when I worked at Adams, they had like a big festival where everyone ordered ribs, it was like $20,000 worth of food. It was a huge fucking job for us. And it was all about Dominion selling the public on what they were gonna do for them, and they haven't done jack shit. So I'm just saying we have to be careful.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

And that like that's the other thing is like one, we also we have to look at what did Dominion do when it came to our housing market. We have to look at our housing market because it did send people from all over the country. Like one of my friends, his they they were from Colorado. This plant opened up on Little Coast Point Park, you know, Little Coat Point Road in this small county, and they moved from the West Coast over here, you know? And so it's like you have to you have to weigh the pros and cons with this. Is is Amazon just going to hire a bunch of people from China and India to do to do our work? Are they going to hire locally outside of you know high school kids that are getting their degrees?

SPEAKER_03 10:56

They should not be allowed, they should not be allowed to bring them in on the visa, on the working visa. Right. They should have to support the local community and give them jobs. You know.

SPEAKER_04 11:11

That's there is no if there is no contract that says like let's just say 95% or 98% or whatever, you know, it's gonna be localized, then that's an automatic we don't have to be for that, you know. Like it's you it it's it's interesting because we're trying to take numbers and statistics off of like different like liberal areas, but we're we're focusing in on a very conservative rural area that and we're not used to this. I mean, we have the Dominion plant, yeah, but and the nuclear power plant, but this is something this is a step up. This is the totally different thing. You know, this is like this is the new future, and it's like, do we want this here? Why can't it go into Annerundel? You know, why can't it go into Ganttersburg? Why can't it go into Howard County? Like, why can't it go why do why do y'all have to take Route 4, clear all of that wildlife out? Probably because of the land. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like they can't there I know there's areas up north, and it's like the argument is is like, well, if you use AI, if if we have a plant down here, if you use AI, you'll get your results within like a second. But okay, all right, but think about let's go back to China, okay? You know, we we set this we set this data center up, we set two data centers up here in Calvar County, and what do you think China's doing? China laughs every single time we build a new data center. They laugh because all they do is they send their students over here, and there it's a lit, there's an acronym acronym. It's human and then with a T at the end. It stands for like human some intelligence training or something like that. And it's where they coach these 16 to 18 year olds to go over to our universities, get their degrees, and then go work at an AI data center plant, work there for a few years, and then once their visa expires, they go back overseas and they give them all of the information that they just learned from that six years. That's all they're that's all they're doing. Right. Every time the data is starting, China laughs. Ji Ping laughs at it. And and then Kevin O'Leary is trying to sit back and say, no, no, we need more so we can outdo China. No, China laughs at us every time we start this. Every time a new project goes over there, you know.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

They're sending their their young people, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

And and I think people are also very ignorant and closed off to the fact that, you know, people should make no mistake the Chinese government is very accepting of putting all their cards on the table as far as AI goes. Because I don't think people like fully understand how how they have already successfully militarized AI to essentially control their civilization. You know what I mean? So like the government basically relies on social media and AI chat bots and and uh surveillance. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the propaganda. No, we don't even have to get into all that. I'm talking like cameras on every street corner outside of every house, you know what I mean? And they and they're able to take pictures and photograph your face you on like a register every time. And we're talking like you you like to do something on social media or or whatever that the government doesn't like, and they'll like knock down your your like actual yeah your social score or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

And the lower your social credit, they get adjusting credit social credit. They're trying to get yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Yeah, like they already do it. Like that's the thing that people I don't fully think understand is like, no, China's already successfully done that. They've even taken over Hong Kong.

SPEAKER_03 15:55

Oh, and England's doing it too.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Like a whole thing years ago about that. Like the CCP owns all that. They yeah, they control everyone through AI and slowly doing this.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

Yeah, they're they're jaming people over social media posts, even in England. So, you know, it's not just China, it's England. That's what I think. They kind of want they kind of want the world.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

China is like the godfathers of that shit, dude.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:25

It's it's weird how it's weird how we're so like like our country is built on freedom, yet we we've literally been building plants that store all of our information. And and and the government wants us to get along with to to agree with that in the name of the thing.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Do you know how long you Utah Utah thought that shit? Utah fought that shit for years years, dude, before they were able to get a bad fucking humongous data center that that uses, I don't know, a trillion gallons of water a day or some shit. I don't I don't know what the exact number is, but it's it's mind-boggling to think about. Like Oh yeah, and then Kevin O'Leary has gotta put another one. They tried to put a stop to it.

SPEAKER_04 17:13

Yeah. Like that like that's that's another thing. It's like like there there could be like I understand that every time you use your phone, you know, every time you go on the internet or whatever, you know, it's tracked. You know, there's no hiding that fact. You know, whatever. The government can say that we're free and that they don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

There's no answer but come on.

SPEAKER_04 17:38

You know, we we're Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

But if they want if they want to if they want a piece of you, they can follow the breadgrounds, you know. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 17:47

So what I'm you know Well what I'm not gonna do is what I'm not gonna do is sit here and say, all right, well I I accept it. So let's bring on the data centers now to just collect more of our information. You know, I'm not gonna concede with that. You know, I'm gonna at least have that conversation. What do they what do they do with all that information? And why you're gonna be able to do that? Well, that's why I'm that's that's what I'm saying. It's like it's like our phone storage isn't like the internet isn't limit limitless, like they said. Like I think that's what the whole thing. And everything goes to the cloud. Right, but the cloud is even if you don't buy it. Yeah. The cloud is now getting bigger and has gotten bigger and has gotten bigger. So what what basically what Kevin D'Aleria said was is about 15 years ago, the introduction of AI in, you know, in the internet, stuff like that, just 15 years ago, not even beforehand, but it was roughly about a hundred megawatts per day or something like that. And then it jumped up to two fifty, and then it jumped up to five hundred, and then now it's at a thousand. Like for every data center within the past 18 months, you had to have like a one thousand or sorry, a one gig data center. He's building a one point five data, so they're gonna and then a nine gig.

SPEAKER_03 19:18

So the cloud So they're gonna affect all this money. That's go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, good, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

No, no, I was just gonna close it with so what's happening is is that the cloud that was supposed to be ultimate is not ultimate and it and it has to expand. When is this gonna stop? Is there does there have this is the thing, right? We have to ask ourselves, does there have to be a data center in every single county in this country? Does there have to be two in every county? Three in every county, depending on the population.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

For what? Because we gotta have AI. We gotta have AI, we have to have it.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

That's what the government's saying, Chris.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

That would be my ultimate question. That would be my ultimate question. And I would also say, like, do we honestly think that what they're telling us is true and they're gonna give this money up front to the counties and the states to have them build these data centers. And that's some lower my electric bill? No, it's not. It's gonna go up. No, no, no, the resources are gonna go up. That fucking money is not coming back to other skies.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

I mean, oil's gonna go up. I will let everybody know that up front.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Oh, yeah. Our prices are gonna go up.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

You know, you know, it so like if I thought if I thought it worked that way and we could accept a data center, like let's say here where we live, and it was gonna lower our property tax and lower our electric bill, then you know, I might could sway a little bit on it, but I I just know it's not gonna happen. They're gonna take the money up front, and then just like you said earlier in the conversation, that money's gonna disappear. Nobody knows what happened to it. It's going for a leering center.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

That shit, too. Like, let's not forget like all the other time all our governments tend to do that shit.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

You know, like, oh, I don't know what's steal the money. Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

Oh, dude, I'm stealing you. Look, no, no one gets in trouble if that's why I'm sure went to the transcenders.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Come on, don't be transphobic.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Look, oh yeah, I love transcenders. If these one on bed right now, what oh whoops.

SPEAKER_04 21:43

I'ma I'ma edit that out.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Oh man. Um She's really hot. She has big teeth. Oh man. Oh, dang. They're fighting. He I mean, he does. He does. No. It feels great. Damn it. Sorry, guys. Just trying to throw some humor out there. All right. All right. Nobody wants to talk after that. No. I picked her up at your house, Chris. Oh, dang. Yeah. After after work on the way home, I picked her up. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Oh, man.

unknown 22:21

Chris.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

Kind of gross too. I don't know what he did with her or anything. But, you know.

SPEAKER_04 22:29

I'll not even see how we got on the subject.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Oh, because of China Magina? China Magina. I was just trying to.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Shouldn't we be talking about sex bots if we're going to go into AI data centers instead of the internet?

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Oh, we can't leave that part alone because they want it. Yeah. They want it like a ready player one, dude. They don't want Oh yeah. They don't want people interacting. Like what we just did last night, and everyone hung out and was just fucking chilling outside in the fucking open air. They don't really want that shit anymore. Like, just in general. And you know, you could see it getting that way, dude. Like, what part and what parts do you get to like? Not like being home, don't get me wrong. Because I'm comfortable at home. I keep the temperature as I wanted at home. I can shower at home. Keep water at home. But I also want to be outside and I want to do things out in the fucking world. But they're kind of pushing us all into this fucking corner to where everyone's like, well, what's the fucking point? You know what I mean? I got everything I need right here. I got my little fucking sex spot. Hello, kitty fucking bitch, right next to me, and Wi-Fi at my fingertips. I can play the video. I can do this, I can do that. You know, they they are kind of pushing us into this, what is it called? It's like a technotronic revolution. Yeah. Where you don't have you don't you don't have to leave your house, you know what I mean? Right. Universally can come, like all that shit. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna start pushing upon us. And I don't know if that's good for society. It's good for our intellectual side, but I don't think it's good for our animalistic side.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

That's kind of good. I don't think it's good at all, period. And I'll I'll tell you why to an extent, because we we are tribal creatures. Oh, you're popping. We cannot survive without each other, without like one for with another. Like all good without interaction. So and and because what I'm saying, and I turn into a transparent that nobody wants to say out loud is what the CCP has achieved in the idea of government, you know what I mean, is pretty bittersweet when you really think about it like really deep. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like the quiet thing that nobody wants to say out loud is people in power and politicians and government uh entities see what the CCP has accomplished and they're like, I want that. You know what I'm saying? And the and like I said, AI doesn't hurt that AI that China used the CCP, the you know, the Chinese Communist Party.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

They they have successfully used it not to mention their with their uh huh Well, I'm saying they've just successfully used it with all their their technology well back then sanctions surveillance Reagan I think wasn't Reagan the one that released the sanctions on China and allowed them to kind of become the world power that they're today. Like before that, they were sanctioned against. I think it was Reagan.

SPEAKER_04 26:21

Let me look it up.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

You can fact check me on that. I'm not sure. But uh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I after that happened, they just started growing and they started turning into a superpower, and not to mention the fact they're a 5,000-plus-year-old society that has existed and tame people and has a ton of people. And we're what 250 years into this thing on July 5th, whatever it is, whatever the celebration is. You know what I mean? So it was uh George Bush.

SPEAKER_04 26:56

It was uh 1991 by George Bush.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

So close. Oh he's a bit he's a Bohemian Grove guy. Oh yeah, yeah. Big big time. NWO, like yeah, so I'm not surprised he was the trigger point. So from that point on, my point being around that time, yeah, China was able to grow and able to grow and able to grow. And they're communist. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Yeah, uh well, I was literally about to piggyback off you because in in, I believe, 1993 or 1994, Bill Clinton, when he got in office, he made that that that NAFTA agreement where all of our companies can go over to China or Mexico, and so it benefited both China and Mexico. And Trump, like we finally have a president that is like, this was a mistake, and to bring it all back.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

Oh, Ross Perot, back in the day when he was running for president as an independent and couldn't even get on half of the debate stages, he said, NAFTA and GATT, yeah, he had big suckings now, and that's sucking all the life out of America. Like, yeah, you can watch the clips of him saying it, man. I remember watching it real time, and I was like, every he was yeah, he was our Trump before Trump was Trump. And that's why Trump joined the Republican Party because he knew he couldn't win as an independent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Well I was I'd just like to mention that because every American, every American should have saw that NAFTA agreement and just said, what what the hell are we doing? You know, what and it should have been it should have been our country's mission for the next conservative, at least somewhat conservative president to be like, nope, let's rip this deal up, let's bring all of our factories to this agreement.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

It's bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

You know, but but then we end up getting it.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

And it's took what 25 25 years to fucking rip it up. Right, exactly. You know it's just crazy. Yeah. Right. Because I remember all that shit, dude. That's right. That's what got me involved in politics in the beginning was Ross Perot and then Ron Paul.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Ron Paul, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:28

And I started to understand the bigger picture of what was going on. And what they were trying to do was infiltrate America. And infiltrate because, you know, we have the world currency. So, you know, I I don't know. It's just it's just fucking crazy, man. I don't so I I'm that's another reason I'm skeptical to get back to the subject of the data centers. I yeah, I I I don't know if it's in our best interest or not. Like, yeah, I guess we should be worried, but you know, they're always trying to tell us aliens are coming, nuclear bombs are gonna explode. Like they're always they're always fear mongering on everybody in the public. And and if you if you're in a state of fear, you are not the predator. You're the prey. Yeah. Okay. So I would just like to bring that up and knock that because it is the fucking truth. It's fear, flight, or flight. Either you run or you sit there like a possum who acts like he's dead, but he's not dead, or you take off, or you flight. Like, so they they they're well aware of this. Like psychologically. Um everyone in charge is well aware of this. So I don't, you know what I mean? Maybe I'm scared of the data centers, maybe I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

I just don't think we need them to be afraid as much as I think they should just be aware. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Always to be aware. I agree with that. Yeah. Good statement.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Yeah, Dean, like, especially with something like AI, because and like I said, we have to we have to follow it by example with what it's done with other countries and what happens when you let it get into the idea of the politics and and the government, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Oh, look at the cobalt mining in the fucking congo. It's fucking disgusting. Like what those people do. They get the cobalt out of their fucking minds, get it into our phones, and like, you know, but do we really need that? No. Fuck no. We don't. I guess we do, because we gotta have computers. We gotta keep advancing the computers. Right. Gotta keep advancing AI. But, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't I don't I don't I wish I could sit here and tell you guys I had a solution. I don't have a solution, but I am skeptical about big companies coming in and doing something that is such a major undertaking of environmental facts and uh power. Like you know what I mean? And AD isn't good, you get 200 miles out of it, and you gotta recharge the motherfucker. Like, you need some gasoline, baby. Freedom. A fucking 1960s Mustang. You know? Traveling down Route 61. Fucking freedom. Like, they don't I they're they're what do you guys know about the three minute cities? Have you heard any of this? Yeah, I've heard a little bit of it. Yeah, it's pretty fucking gross. It's a yeah, basically. Well the 15 minutes go ahead. Go ahead, don't explain it. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

It's basically a proposal on the United States of like they they want to make every I don't know if you would call it district or town or whatever, but it it would basically put everything that you need within 15 minutes. And that can span from like in like everything. I'm talking like schools, doctors entertainment, restaurants.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

They don't want you to live they they don't want you to live in rural areas. Right, this is how they would all pad people into yeah, yeah, yeah. A city that has everything, and maybe you're happy, maybe you're not, but you're not free.

SPEAKER_04 33:41

Imagine you know, imagine like New York City, but like in literally every square inch of this great country is New York City. Like, right, you know, that's what they wanted.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

Yeah. Or Los Angeles, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Or Los Angeles, right.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Yeah. That was that fucking brilliant proposal. I don't know who made it.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

I'll I'll look it up. I'll look at it.

SPEAKER_03 34:09

This was like um, it was a while ago. I remember watching that video about like years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too. Me too. It's like what the fuck was the name of the they always had their fucking secret little names, but whatever. Just look up 15 minutes cities and everything will come up. But I yeah, I was like that is a post Did you look it up?

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

Look it up, look it up, want everything to be a city. Yeah, so Yeah, yeah, they they don't want to do that rural. Like the conservative values that we all have, they're fucking basically trying to eliminate, and it's a problem. It's gonna be a problem. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

The the exact 15-minute concept, 15-minute city concept was developed by a French guy in Paris in 2016, but it has been in America since as early as the 1980s. Wow. But the full like the full design, they made like a 3D model of it, that was created by a French person and and I saw that. That's it was it was scary. I was like, I don't want to live there. Right. So because that's the thing, especially with Europe, you know, they'll they'll have an idea, you know, from a university, and then America just like they love that. Like they'll they'll they'll adopt it, yeah. You you know what I'm you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't really do like I don't know, do in America.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

Okay, so they sit around in these think tanks. Yes. Similar to us podcasting uh think tank, come up with these fucking ideas and then then they'd push them. Right. And whether or not some of them go through, some of them don't, there was there was supposed to be an Amero, just like there's a Euro. Right, right? Yeah. There was supposed to be America, uh, an Amero, which was Canada, US, and Mexico with the same currency. Yeah. Just like just like they did in Europe. And luckily that didn't go through. That never happened. But I I remember reading about that in like 2010, and I was like, fuck this. This ain't good for us. Like, we have our own shit. Right. You know, I don't know. Crazy.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

Yeah, no, it is a lot, and I mean that that kind of leads me into um what I've been kind of researching for the past few months, which is you know, what are we going to do with these politicians that we have like locally, you know? And I think I created a a pretty good a pretty good, you know, Calvert County American First type of ballot, you know. Okay.

unknown 37:13

Good.

SPEAKER_04 37:14

If y'all want to if y'all want to dive into it.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

That's that's it. I know some of these people personally. You right, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:22

So first I want first I want to start off by saying that Calvert County has a and I don't know if every county does it, probably not, but Calvert County is if you if you are registered as Republican, you can only receive a Republican ballot, and then vice versa. There is no independent, there is no anything like that. So Oh, that's crazy. So, and I don't know the specific reasoning. It I'm trying I can I can give you an answer if y'all want the answer.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

So Oh, I'm ready. I'm fucking ready. You know me. I got no clowns and nothing. Yeah. Hi. Calvert County was an original the Chesapeake Bay was an original Aboriginal land. That the roads that we formed went through their original trails, the waterways that were here were always here, but they treated the land good. And I would just like say that, start out. Yeah. I mean, yeah, and it's important it's important, man. You can't let them ruin that fucking shit. From what I'm hearing, and I hope I'm wrong, these data centers are gonna kill the oyster population and kind of crap on the crabs, rockfish, everything that us here country folk love to enjoy, like deer, all all all that. It's gonna affect everything. And if people aren't aware, they should get aware and get a little hair up their ass because it's not gonna be good, man. They're trying they're trying to turn our county into a 15-minute city. Yeah. And it's it's sad. I don't like to see it. I don't wanna see it. I'm good on it. For all all for what? All for what? So I could go, hey Grof, what do you think about this? Fucking these retards, you gotta tell a slow to get back in their house and watch Netflix in their mom's basement. Like, what are you talking about? Like, so anyway, I got that off my chest. Alright, I think I figured figuring out while you're talking. Good thing. Alright. We call that cut covers things. Yes. I talk while you're looking. Yeah. Alright, so basically the okay, so alright.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Let me let me rephrase my thing. It's more on the fact that so June 23rd is the Republican primary. So if you are registered Republican, you only get a Republican ballot because Maryland is a closed closed party system. So the prime.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

That's closed, though.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

No, no, no, no. No, it's not because I think it is. No, because so not that we are closed. It should be an open democracy.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Chris, Chris, Chris, let me finish. You're not ready. I'm sorry. Okay, sir.

SPEAKER_04 40:45

No, no, no. You have the wrong idea. So the primaries. Okay. The primaries are for you know, we know this. It's to elect or it's to make the specific leader of the party advance to the November election. So that's what that's what June 23rd is about, is advancing so they can face off the Democrats or the Independents or whatever that is going to show up. Now, now we are in a two-party system, so there is, I I can understand why you would say, well, why can't independents have their own ballot? Da-da-da.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Of course they should. Of course they if there was an Indian tribe that wanted to run, they should be able to run. I mean, what are we talking about? Just closed off. We're a closed two-party fucking system, and that's it. Everyone else sucking. I don't like that. Well, the name, you can't. That's why you're saying because it's not your fault. It's not your fault. That sounds like bullshit to me. Alright, hold on. So however that got passed, okay, so bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

So in Calvert County, there is no unaffiliated like votes. So like, or there is no nonpartisan contests. So like you're either So you're either Republican or you're Democrat.

SPEAKER_03 42:21

Running as a Republican. You're either fucked in the ass or fucked in the mouth. That's what I'm hearing. I mean, let me see if and I don't say that lightly. You could look that up. Fucked in the ass or fucked in the mouth. Right. That's that's just fucking bullshit. This is uh, yeah, well hold on. Fucking bullshit. You know, George Washington was an independent. The only independent fucking leader of the country. And Trump wanted to run as an independent, but he knew he couldn't win. So he's fucking changed Republicans. Thank God he thank God he did. God knows where we'd be if we were still going down the Biden Kamala fucking horoscope.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Yeah, the funny thing is I don't think I don't think Republicans wanted that kind of beef either. Because they didn't want Trump to even debate for the longest time. But he was like, if you don't let me get up on that stage, then I'm just gonna run as an independent and I'll pay for my own debate. And they were exactly though they were like, because you know there were some Republicans and shit that were like, well, he's just talking shit. There's just no way. We'll we we'll just say no. We'll just keep saying no.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

And other people three times, like all that, all that. Yeah. You're right. You're right. He was an independent who took over the Republican Party.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

That's how I like to see it. Because legitimately they were like gonna kick him out entirely. But he was like, fine, whatever, I'll just pay for everybody to televise, my own debate, and it'll be much cooler than yours. I'll even pay for fireworks. And they were like, ah, fuck. And even though some people, like older heads, I'm sure, that were like, whatever, we'll just we'll just make sure that da-da-da, no one will see it. And other people were like, nah, dude, you don't understand. That's still a lot of smoke. Even if we tell people not to vote for him or nobody would vote for him, that's still a lot of independent waves.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Okay, so let's go to the left side of the fence. Bernie Sanders was the one selling out stadiums, just like Trump was. But the Democrats did not let him get the nominee. Yeah, but they they gave it to Hillary. So I I'm agreeing with you, Trump. Listen, don't get it wrong, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying it's interesting when you think about the fact that Democrats really fucked that.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

Like at the same time, I know what you're saying, and I saw that too. I think that's why they lost 2016.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Was because you know hit the glass ceiling.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Yeah. He was the one selling out stadiums, and when when it came down to it, they were just like, nah, he's too independent, so we're gonna go for Hillary, even though nobody in the right mind voted for fucking Hillary. You know what I mean? They were like they just thought they could steal it too.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

And the fucked up thing was he did not stand on his morals. He he took the money and ducked away. Like he could have he could have put up a big fuss and should have had a big fuss because he was fucking he was rolling like Trump is rolling, like selling out stadiums and everybody fucking this, that, the other, and everybody's behind Bernie, blah blah blah. But yeah, then there was Hillary Clinton who just came in there and snatched that fucking nominee. Like I guess thank God for that, because Trump did get elected. But you need you know what I'm getting at. I kind of feel like Trump would have beat out Bernie Sanders.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

You know?

SPEAKER_03 46:27

I I don't I don't know. It would have been a closer race than what it was for sure. He had he had momentum. He had the kind of population too was behind him. I mean, so that would have been a hard snowball to stop, like harder than moving. Like at least everyone's like, fuck Hillary, this fucking bitch. Sorry, Craig. I gotta get real. But yeah, uh, it's nuts when you when you think back on like how everything transpired, and then COVID happens, and then we got this fucking Biden character that nobody even knows what the clone is, what the daddy long leg fucking version madness, like a lot of crazy shit happened that had to happen to allow it to happen, if you know what I'm saying. Not an inside baseball brother.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Dude, I mean I mean, because all that stuff like since 2016 and and COVID and stuff, I'm I'm under the impression, like I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that there's like a umbrella-like government entity, you know what I mean? Like real top, like basically have been trying to be in charge of our country for like generations kind of deal. I I don't you know, the deep state, I don't know what to call it, but like Oh, it's the deep state, it's the Bank of England. Yeah, with Bank of England, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I I have a I've always had a strong feeling, especially since then, that that they like have this whole master plan in mind.

SPEAKER_03 48:20

Fucking struggle hold.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

Both sides, I think, are are trying to help them get to the same goal, but with different ideals in mind to how to get there. But at the same time, I think a whole lot of the debate and the back and forth, it's all just loud bullshit to drive a wedge between American people and and to distract us, most of all, you know.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

Oh, a hundred percent. Keep their keep their eyes out to prize. And when you get when you're catching flack, you know you're over the target.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Well, because the media is always about the federal elections, too. Like you notice that. Like they love their federal elections, but they never really talk about our local local elections, which is really what impacts us the most.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

So let's talk about Steve Williams, Dylan. All right, I got y'all. Are you ready? Full circle. Because I uh know him very well.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

All right, good, good. So, well, let's start at the top. Let's start with governor, okay? Obviously, all right, obviously, you know, we're a very heavy democratic state, so there's not a lot of momentum for Republicans at the governor to the ball. Yeah, Barmore and PG County, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

And uh so and the West has wanted to break aside and be Western Maryland forever. Oh yeah. I would just throw that in real quick. I I didn't mean to break your momentum, but no, you're good.

SPEAKER_04 50:00

Nah, so so we have we have an option for governor. There I mean, there's a few, but I think the number one choice or what I would go to, and he is backed by Trump, Dan Cox. He's been running for years. He's been running for years. You see his signs everywhere. You know, he's very, he's a very, you know, Maryland first politician. He's always been like that. He's nice. He's a he's a constitutionalist lawyer. So he was against the lockdowns, he's against the gender ideology, he doesn't like that big government overreach, you know. So, you know, he he's that he's that rural candidate, you know, that says the right things. It's just he can't get over that Democrat hog at home. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

You know, so But uh where's where's he from, for example? So he is from let me look it up. I should have done more research, but Oh, it's okay. It's alright. He I guess that's where my Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

Man, I love I love his Wikipedia thing. Hold on. All right. So originally he's from DC and then went to the University of Maryland, and then he just stayed here. So, but he is in Well, like where was he born in the fourth district? So he was born in DC, but then he became a legislator in Frederick and Carroll County.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 51:39

So, yes.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

So he's been in the game. Born here, raised here, yeah. For a long time. Yeah, and just needs to get over the hump. But he's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:53

So his Wikipedia is this is so this is great. I love this, right? His Wikipedia says Cox is characterized as a far right politician and an election denier, and has continuously espoused the disproven theory that the 2020 U.S. president election was fraudulent.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

How leftist of a website is this? How could they say that about him? And it's not even true. Wow. See, that's why I'm so suspect of everything. You don't man, you might look something up and accidentally stumble into that, and then you think that's what it is. And it's it's not.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Well, Wikipedia is basically ran by leftists.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

Independent, yeah. Yeah, yeah. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 52:46

So yeah, so I just wanted to throw that out.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

But you know, people have been able to uh edit Wikipedia how they see fit too. So there've been moments where Wikipedia has just been basically it's been flagged several times with like false information and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

Yeah. I oh a hundred percent. A hundred percent because you could go in there and edit like whatever, you know. Oh yeah. Stays on the page or you know, it's not it's not the end all be all that people think it is. It's like it's not the Encyclopedia Britannica that they gave you quotes back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 53:30

I don't know if you guys know what that is, but well, yeah, there's a reason why in school, at least for me, I don't know about y'all, but at least for me, they said uh Wikipedia is not a trusted source. So every time we did like a paper for research, we weren't we would get a grade knocked off if we used Wikipedia because of how bad it was or is.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

Right. Yeah. Right, right. Um okay, so I don't this I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Yeah, the you yeah, you were not allowed to use Wikipedia in school. At least in Calvert, like at least down here. Uh I don't know about other areas, but alright, so Dan Cox has my vote. I'm fully this is this is Dylan's endorsement of Dan Cox. Alright, so let's move down.

SPEAKER_03 54:22

So now we have That's good enough for me. Dan Cox all the way. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

So for for anybody that wants to know, so Wes Moore got roughly like 1.2 million votes. Dan Cox got 644,000. Uh so he came in second. So that's why I'm saying he's got that democratic hump that you know they have that generational liberalism in them, you know. Vote blue. You know, what what is what is their saying? Vote blue no matter. It's it's something like that. I don't know, but I know vote blue no matter who. Yeah, vote blue no matter who. That's what I know they're saying. I know their symbol is the jackass.

SPEAKER_03 55:10

Yeah. I know the um jackass. Like so we could we could just start there. Like, come on. Seriously. That's you guys fucking raining signal. Is it jackass? Come on.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

We don't we don't we don't even have to go any further. Like your shit's a jackass.

SPEAKER_04 55:35

Alright. So next next up is the comp troler, which is essentially the kind of like like like our own like tax system, essentially. So we get to vote on like how our tax policies work and stuff like that. And they're tax stuff like that. Uh yeah, they work alongside with the commissioners, but they're more of a watchdog. They're more of like because they're so they're independent. So they're automatically independent. They don't work for Republican or Democrat or any party. That's what they say. But so basically they're like an outside entity that, and this is a woman named Sonia Dunn. She's you know, she's promising a bunch of uh, you know, she she's she should be trusted with the oversight, all of that. She's like the top of what conservatives want, essentially.

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Like a a top watchdog over the whole Yes, she she's a very yeah. I don't mean she's a fuck show, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_04 56:48

But just in general.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

An overseer of the whole fuck show that is her government.

SPEAKER_04 56:53

Yes, yep, and so yeah, she's the check and balance. So if if she sees something wrong, if somebody's if somebody committed some type of fraud, it's her and her team's responsibility to call that out.

SPEAKER_03 57:07

To make sure we're not Minnesota.

SPEAKER_04 57:09

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

Yeah. So her name is Sonia Dunn. Okay. She's got my vote. Alright. So Alright, I'm yes.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

They wish you were born in Minnesota. We are selecting Sonia Dunn. Alright. Now, let's move on to Attorney General. Attorney General is very important, guys. Very important. Attorney General of Maryland. Yeah, we can't.

SPEAKER_03 57:39

Let me see if this is for Maryland or if this is for Cooper. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 57:44

Hold on. Alright, let's see. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:49

Cooper's on the podcast, guys. Cooper.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:54

Hi, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 58:00

Alright, so yes, so he is he is running for the state's general attorney or attorney. And he's very, very big, you know, conservative. You know, his website says, you know, for the Marylanders, and you know, all that. Oh, and and Chris, Chris, he's got your favorite. He promises to protect the resources of the Chesapeake Bay. Hell yeah. Yes. So yeah. He's big on that. He's big on cyber protection and law enforcement, you know. Oh well.

SPEAKER_03 58:41

Yeah. I was watching something the other day. A cat got elected to be mayor for like two 200 years in one of these countries. I can't remember what I was about to do. Oh, I know. Yeah, I think I saw a clip of the cat. Yeah, it was hilarious. Like, nobody wanted to vote either side, so they voted for the cat, and the cat was the mayor for like whatever. However much amount of time. I don't know. Till he died, probably. Yeah. Anyway. You made me think of that because I was given a trooper. But okay, sorry. Alright, so you're good.

SPEAKER_04 59:20

So this this attorney general, his name is James Rootledge the Third. Okay, and he he ke he comes from up north.

SPEAKER_03 59:29

I don't like it. Uh-oh. Alrighty. Say his name again. I don't like his name.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

James Rutledge III. Okay, that's his but that's his ballot name. His his the name he goes by is Jim Rootledge.

SPEAKER_03 59:45

Okay, that's better.

SPEAKER_04 59:46

That's better, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just started thinking of French or English royalty, like you know what I mean, British. Yeah. Do you want me to read a little thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is from all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

This is from the Maryland Republican Party, okay? April 21st. All right. A lifelong Marylander raised on a Hartford County farm. Jim is a seasoned attorney or attorney with decades of experience and deep record of community service, including coaching, youth sports, serving on the Judicial Nomination Commission, and holding elected office in the town of Bel Air. Maryland's AG office has been used as a political platform for too long. Jim is running to refocus it on what actually matters public safety, supporting law enforcement, defending civil rights, and putting Maryland families first.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

Mmm. Everything we're about.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:46

And then there's literally like Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:50

Okay. Yeah. So where where's what's his lineage? I would automatically ask. Let's see. But I mean, whether we like it or not, I mean there's a lot of shit around here that we don't even fully understand. Like, there's Prince Frederick. Like, who is Prince Frederick? Like, you know what I mean? There's Solomon's Island. There's Lesby, where one of the lands that I worked at was collecting taxes from the American people before America was even a country. And it's down to drum point. Yeah. Yeah, it's just crazy, man, when you think about the lineages and you don't really know what the fuck went on and what didn't go on and what pissed people off and what made them uh fucking like okay. Why are we why are we putting these pennies in a bucket sending them over the pond? Like yeah. Fuck Britain. You know what I'm saying? Suck a dick. Like, we're not gonna be that. And I mean that in a good way, not in a bad way. I just mean it's interesting to think about the long lineage of things that have gone on in our home state.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

I mean Well, I will say, Chris, is I agree with that a hundred percent. But this Democrat that is running against him is like worthless. So at least this guy will actually like, you know, charge people with like the correct sentencing.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Right. Instead of letting them go and all that bullshit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

Dude, right. Democrats, especially ones running for office in Maryland, dude, that's like they they just basically f fell into like the whole you know, mainline media bullshit with, oh, vote for me because I hate Trump. Right, yeah. You know, and I I hate the president, and I'll do everything in my power to get rid of the president, like, you know what I mean? And I and I it it's just sad that people fall for that, in my opinion, because I just how they feel like that's gonna do any good for them. Like if they waste all their time and resources on trying to get rid of the president of the United States, how the fuck is that gonna better your life or your economy or any of that?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

It's not gonna, it's not going to. I know, but like Dylan said, that's what's most alarming, is that fucking our our we are a closed two-party state. Like, that's bullshit. Let's just start there. Like, that's crazy. You know what I mean? I should be able to start the Chris party tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:02

No, you're you're allowed to. The only thing is that there's not enough enough Chris. There's not enough people running for those specific parties to get their own ballots to those specific voters. So, like, each Republican Party and Democrat Party have like 15 different people. Well, for an independent, they only have like two or three. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:27

So they make two wings of the same bird.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:30

So they no, so they make them wait until November third when it's actually time, and then they place the names up on the ballots. Right. So they don't have enough time to get their message out basically. No, they they have the same amount of timing. No, they have the same amount of timing. I if I if I ran as an independent, I can run for 2036 and I can start now, you know, and get a head start as an independent, but as of right now, do you get to participate in the debates?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:05

Do you get to do the all that?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:07

Like, you know what I mean? It depends on what they all agree to. So like I know in so I know in in like in Florida, they wanted to do a governor debate, but one of the one of the candidates had like a whole risk list of rules, and then the other candidates didn't agree to it. So that debate never happened. So you so what happened because of our boy Ross, bro, he's the one that started that if you want to debate, you should debate. Like, so now, like, for anybody that so like Bernie Sanders is listed as independent, yet he shared the stage with the Democrats.

unknown 1:05:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:54

Because he leaned more, because he leaned less.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:56

He was a dyno.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:58

So So, like Rand Paul is a libertarian. So he would run under the Libertarian Party, but he would share the stage with the Republicans because he is a he's a right-leaning politician. So therefore it they have the same amount of time. The problem is that there's just so many candidates for the Republicans and Democrats that they have to st they have to they have to have a primary for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:30

Sounds like a fucking mafia shit, dude. What it sounds like.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

It makes sense because there isn't enough there isn't enough politicians to f to trigger a primary ballot. Like if there was like let's just say there was 30 independents running and only 50, you know, let's just say 20 Democrats and there's only three Republicans, it would be Democrat and it would be independent. It wouldn't be Republican on that. Because there's not enough. Now let's just say each of them, each three parties have 30 people to choose from. You know, you you know, they'll they'll send out ballots to those independents to to narrow it down. And so come November 3rd, then they can get a real you know clarification on who the independents agreed on who they want to send up.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:30

I know, and then where wherever the follow the money, wherever the money goes, that's where it's usually gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

That's what was I mean that's but that's that's been a thing. That's been a thing since, you know, the start of the country.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:48

Well, Kamala got shut down, even though they were paying all this fucking money and got all this fucking so that was because yeah, she was a retard. That gives me hope. She's definitely a retard.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:02

So, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

No argument here, no argument here on that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:06

So okay, so that that's basically to like to s yeah. So hopefully I put everyone listening that's independent at ease that you have your fair shot. It's just y'all don't have the amount of people running. Same for the Green Party or the Libertarian Party or whatever the the Boston Party, all of that, or the the Tea Party. All of that will be moved to a November's ballot since y'all don't have enough people running.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

Right. And then and then and then a lot of people a lot of people know that if they do vote that way, who they who they want it's not going to get elected. I mean.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:48

And well it it depends because it well it depends because Maryland is one of the rising states of independent of independent voters. And what they do is is they'll be an independent until about a month before the election, and then they'll switch to either Republican or Democrat, or they'll stay independent. Maryland is very big on being independent up until the election. So if you want to, if you want to run a campaign on making the Maryland people stay independent and you know, not have them switch sides, you know, you gotta step your game up big time. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:31

Right. Um, right, right. That's the only thing I'd have to say about that. I hear you. That was well put.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:39

And I get it. And I understand, I understand that there's like a hundred times more money into the Republicans than Democrats, and I get that. And it's always going to be like that unless a different party comes out and they start resonating with, you know, the local populations, and then it grows into a state-wide party, and then it goes from there into national, you know. So I definitely did it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:13

Yeah. You know, so that that's just not going to stop. Like, Democrats and Republicans are always going to be the two most popular parties, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:25

Oh, I'm sure. That's why I said, you know, if you want to be a different party, like, one, you're gonna have to have the money for it, and two, you're gonna have to have a campaign, you know, like no other, like we have never seen before. And you would have to resonate with us over top of the Republican and the Democrats, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

Right, because you're gonna get a split vote. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:48

Right. Yep. So all right, so next is our US representative for District Five. I want to see hold on. Because I thought we were in I could have sworn we were in District 7. No, no, we're in District 5, that's right. Okay, so you know we've seen the signs Chris Chaffee.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:14

Chris Chaffee is good dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

Yeah. So, yeah. So they were we we vote for Chaffee. Yeah, Chaffee.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:25

He all day long.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:26

Yeah. So uh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:29

He's a good old boy. Good old boy is to call him. That's some country shit for you right there. But Chaffee, yes. I know him personally. Yeah. So we uh so we have you to start voting for people.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:46

Just you know, know how to empathize and work inside the community, you know what I mean? Like that's important for people to understand. Yeah, yeah. Should start to get, you know, doing research and electing people that we know have been here and worked here and know what our struggles are.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:11

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yep. Well said. Hell yeah. Yeah, you gotta you gotta go for the people that have been here, looked here, and yeah. Give a fuck. Right. These other people don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:29

Like, you know, people like Christopher things, like these and I want people that care. Like, I want people that care about the people that work every all the time to make rent and stuff like that because they've done it too. They've lived here, they've worked here. Yeah. Correct. Yeah, yeah. And you know, they they care about the same issues we do because they they live through it. You know, and with you know, when you're talking about people putting in data uh AI data centers and stuff like that, that's that right there is the way to combat it, is y you know, electing people that you know have the same empathy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:13

And they're the same same interests, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. You said it great. I'd agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And and that's what you gotta do. That's a fucking I don't know, at what point do you get, you know what I mean, to where I'm like, all right, enough of this shit. I'm running for county commissioner. Like, I'm I'm sick of this shit. Like, and that that's what Steve Weams is, that's what Chaffee is, that's what all these people we've mentioned already, that that's what they are. I already know. I already know them. Like, you know, they're gonna have the best interests of the people at mine, not companies or oh, we just got 50 million dollars from Amazon. Like, okay, what does that mean for the average person? Yeah. What does that fucking? You know, are you just taking the money and then next thing you know, five years goes by and you, I don't know what happened to the money. Like, right. But you know, and that's what we need then. I don't know what happened to the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

It disappeared.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:37

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Just like fucking dumbass Rumsfield that fucking showed up September 10th, 2001, and said, Oh, there's two trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon budget. We don't know what happened to it.

unknown 1:14:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:55

And then September 11th died. And then they pulled down Tower 7, guys. Don't forget that. That had all the records. That was the Vatican of the records of the federal fucking documents. And that building just collapsed. It was fucking three blocks away. There was no reason it should have collapsed. It fucking collapsed under its own. Uh uh. People just knew, yeah. Uh I will I would push that home because I was alive and very awake at that time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:29

It was the CIA building too. That's what's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:34

Yeah, yeah. And it got fucking torn down, dude. And it had nothing to do nothing to do with the planes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:41

I mean. Because it had it had files on the case of what you know that dealt with.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:49

Yes, yes, yes. So they just pulled it. They were like, blow that motherfucker down. Seven is gone. Tower seven, all right, earth to tower seven, tower seven. Yeah. Blow it up. Matter of fact, there was a newscast. I don't know if you guys know this or not, but there was a newscast that said the building was coming down like two minutes before it even came down. And nobody can I did see that. Uh, it's just crazy shit. Like Glue's change and all those fucking documentaries on it. Like, if you really look into it, it's like, alright. And there were like 3,000 people that didn't show up to work that day.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:39

Who maybe had some inside information. Like, and this is not Tower 7, but the the World Trade Center, whatever. You know, called out sick or didn't show up or whatever. It's almost like an inside job. Yeah. I mean, I'll say it. I'm not scared. I don't care. People have been saying it for a while, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:03

Oh, I know. There's a lot of connecting pieces, yeah. You have to really study it, and you can see the how the CIA how the CIA was involved and how they worked with Al Qaeda and how they were supposed to arrest all the terrorists or the hijackers of the planes, but they didn't. They waited, even though they had arrest warrants. It it was it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

Oh, how about the fact that their fucking passports were on and then they they found them.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:35

Yeah. Everyone else's was burnt up.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:39

Yeah, they all the whole plane burnt up and fucking hit the ground. And they scarcely find these passports that are in perfect condition. Like, come on, man. Come on. Ah I'm I'm not that stupid. And I hope everyone else isn't. Either. And the let's roll thing. I got problems with that too. I think I think they knew that shit was head of her DC. And they shot it, shot it fucking down. Yo.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:14

Yo, guess what? I just what I just found out. Alright. Yo, I was watching a video the other day. Guess who was one of those generals that helped shoot down that plane? Michael Flynn? No. Take another guess. Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:32

I don't have any other guesses.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:34

He is our he's our leading general right now. It's it's Dan, it's Dan uh Kane. Oh shit. Yes, Raising Cain. General Raising Cain, bro. It's him. He was the one that was ordered. It was him and three other generals. They were ordered to shoot the plane down. And he was one of them. Yeah, he was one of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:01

Yeah. And then they made up this whole fucking story that I mean it is unlikely to be true. Like, everyone's like, let's roll, you know, or whatever. I think they knew that the plane was headed for bad intentions, and both trade centers had already been hit, and they were like, okay, terrorists got control of this plane, we're shooting it down. And e even yeah. Just it's crazy. Fucking crazy. Alright. Well next on the list we have our state legislative, which is which is by district.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:48

So so let me scroll down here. So since we live in the area we live at, it's uh district uh twenty-nine c and so okay, so the the person that's in now, okay, is is Todd Morgan, okay. And district C is where? District 29C is Lesby, Drum Point, and Solomon's, the Ranch Club, okay and a few parts of St. Mary's.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:26

So the southern part of Calvert County. Sounds like.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:32

Yes. So we have we have the state senate of District 29, which is Jack Bailey. Jack Bailey's great. He's been in he's been in the game for decades. I would I would like to vote for him if he runs for Congress. Like that's how much respect I have for him. Nice. Nice. Now, so that's the state senate, and then House of Delegates, which is District 29C, who's in now is Todd Morgan, okay? And Todd Morgan's an interesting guy. He's been very flip-floppy. So he's for the data centers. He's worked with Democrats in recent years, you know, so he's very flip-floppy now. So then the challenger is James McQueen, and you've probably seen his sides. They call him Lightning McQueen. So James McQueen, this is his first time running. He's a small government advocate, community leader, or volunteer. Emphasizes a strong community, limited government, and local priorities, and he is a hundred percent against the data centers. He he has like a whole list. Uh he's got like a few videos explaining why and how it can be destructive and all that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:53

So so basically what I'm getting at is we're looking at good. I just still don't understand why we're trying to create this artificial intelligence. Like we're already intelligent. We don't need all this bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:11

Like it's all it's all for money.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:14

That's that's why I can I can't wrap my brain around the fact as to why we would need this, why would we need computers to be in charge of our lives or any of that shit? Like, just to get back to the like core principle of what we're talking about, yeah. Um I don't I don't I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't I don't think it's for the benefit of humanity. Uh I think it's more control, less you do what you want to fucking do, less freedom. You know what I mean? That's my that's my problem with all this shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:54

It's like Oh yeah, and it definitely it it it can it it'll make people more knowledgeable, but it'll make people less wiser, definitely. And I think we've seen that over the years.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:08

For sure, with social media and all the addiction that there is to social media, like oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:16

Because you can have you can have knowledge and you can use AI as a tool to be to give you knowledge, but if you don't know how to use that knowledge and be wise to use it, then what's the what's even the point of knowing?

unknown 1:23:31

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:31

What's the point of even having that? And knowledge is different than wisdom. Like wisdom is something that you you grow to know. Like Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:43

You have to you have to yeah, you have to have wisdom to to fully understand the knowledge that you're receiving. To apply the knowledge, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:52

Correct. Yeah, and like I told you before on previous podcasts, I was like, I think it's cool as shit that still can find something out that took me 20 years to learn. That's awesome in two minutes. But you know, you st you still know how to use it. You still need to that and that's where wisdom comes in.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:15

I remember right where I got like an entire trap house of people laughing at me one time when I was sitting at a buddy of mine's house, I was really fucked up. Like, I was probably on enough heroin to kill a kill a large mammal, you know, and I remember I'm sitting there like debating with this chick, right? She's talking about government subsidies or whatever, you know, real real big uh more of it, you know, like she was really big into that. Well, as much as a as a chick hanging out at a trap house would be. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:01

She was a liberal, it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:03

And I remember her being like like blown away by like my whole ideals of uh of society and stuff like that, and just being like, you know, what if you're if you're so smart, then like what what why are you like opposed to something that would necessarily help you out even for uh a minute, you know what I mean? And it was just kind of like, well, because I was I was just really fucked up, and I remember like because you know intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, but wisdom is knowing that tomato doesn't go in every fruit salad. Everyone just you are fucked fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:57

Okay, okay, I I get it, I get it. I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:01

Yeah, that was good, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

Yeah, I don't know. It was just random thought I had. Yeah. And it was so random. I felt really kind of proud of myself at the time because uh like I said, everyone was like blown away, like, whoa, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:19

Yeah, well, sometimes knowledge will find you. Yeah, yeah. And it will, it will. And I feel like hopefully through this podcast, knowledge is finding others that are like minor, like we are. That's what I hope for.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:38

The more I find that like sometimes I feel like the more you try to cancel out all the outside noise that we live amongst, it the more you can kind of like hear God. Right. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:56

I hear that. Hell yeah, dude. And it'll it'll it'll come to you more also.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:05

Well, and like I said, I think uh some sort of form of meditation, uh I I I like or or prayer, like I really, I really advocate for that because you you know, I'm starting to really kind of get on that the more you try to just focus up on you know the inner you and just the the the antenna the antenna you well trying to block out all the noise that like surrounds you at a consistent level, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:44

Because we're all antenna.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:53

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:54

And as soon as you start thinking about somebody and they call you, or all of a sudden you

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

see him somewhere and you're like I was just thinking about you the other day like that's uh and that shit happens yes that's that's your you're right you're right I think I think you're on to something because I think the more you like like I said like focus and try to dock out toys that's out yeah the more you do notice like shit like that you know what I mean? Oh yeah it could be a lightning plate in front of you a license plate and it's kind of like the day I woke up I was like you know I should call my mom but I was like I never did I was like eh you know I was like she said she was gonna be at church she'll probably be a church I went to church and she was a church yeah yeah we're we're in we're in old center and the universe is a wild place but and uh if you if you if you're not dialed into it you're all too fucked up you don't understand what's going on but if you focus and concentrate on what is really going on like what is really important then you can s you know start to focus and do better and not not not fall down the pathways of say and you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:28

Oh yeah. I wish I could have worded it better but I think you guys still would have been yeah yeah it's just important it's important to take care and it's important to fucking uh travel your life like you living a journey and uh I don't know who this person is in front of me but you know I'm gonna try to do something nice. I'm gonna try to do it I don't I don't know people get uh mangled up in this fucking mix social media and fucking all this bullshit and they don't understand exactly what's going on and exactly what's going on consciousness and we are fucking antenna and like you were saying you could receive you could receive knowledge from the antenna or your antenna could be sliding down and you need to pump it up like so I would just say it's it's important man.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:36

Fuck what we're doing's important I think it doesn't matter if it if if it reaches five people I don't I don't give a shit I'm I'm not in this to make money in this for us to have high quality discussions about real life and you know I I think it's true all right that's why that's why I enjoy it yeah heck yeah shall I move on with the list yes yes yes what are we I only got a few more left hang in hang hang hang in with me fellas I only got a few more left I got you I got so this is the big one all right this is the county commissioner at large okay so at large is the one that he's at the head of he or she is at the head of the table you know they're they're the ones you know getting the things done you know all of that so right now Earl Buddy Hance and Todd Ireland they're up there as county commissioner okay and you know I went to I went to school with some some Ireland I you know my my dad has gone to school with some of the Hanses and all that and I gotta say they're they're related to the Hanses no that well so the Hans is a really big I've I've gone to school with some Hanses same as my my dad and they've been in politics around here for for a while for years. Gotcha. They've always been big and you know what guys I'll just say it we gotta vote them out we gotta vote them out okay because they have not delivered on what first what they promised and to the the act of you're supposed to you're you're in control of a conservative rural area and the more the more our taxes go up the more our property tax go up the more our energy goes up the our you know our our we've we have we've had problems with our Solomon's bridge for decades and there is no attention to it we you know our there's there's you know there's potholes in most of our roads and on top of that the it's you know our our main topic of the day is you know the the data centers you know they they like that money you know they're really big into if a company comes through and waves of money you know they're they're big into uh jumping on you know they're they're they're politicians they are lifelong politicians and I think it's time for a change they're gonna let them slide yeah yeah yeah so my first my first uh at-large for commissioner is uh a uh country boy named Jason Skaggs out of Sunderland Dunkirk okay Skaggs has been he's been a Trump supporter since 2015 he is he's literally the the mindset that all three of us have into a person that's that's that's how he is I've seen many videos of him on his campaign website and on his Facebook and I think he was a real deal you know he's he when you look at when you look at we you know Carl was kind of hinting at this earlier but he he has been someone that has worked in this county he has been he has been born and raised in this county he has been through it with us he owns his own business he owns a you know fat roots yes he you know he is that that that strong world conservative voice that we we don't really have right now you know so it's um we yeah all right I'll get I'll get to Steve in a minute yeah yeah so all right so you can vote for up to two okay so Jason Skaggs is my number one and my number two is and this and this woman she is kind of the same as Skaggs uh oh and both is what I'm about to list off is they they are not for the data centers. They believe they believe that what the current commissioners are receiving is not beneficial to the public. They think that it's like a kind of like a scheme kind of like a you know a bad bad thing trying to prioritize profit over people that's basically their understanding of it. So and this woman's name is Patty Stuckler I'm hoping I pronounced that right so those are my two Skags and Stuckler I really think you know we we want change.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:06

These are the people to get it done you know local they've been here yeah that's weird all over the sides it's local like people pay attention so much to federal politics that they're right distracted not participating in local politics which you know a a town can change a city a city can change a state like if you know if you want real change that's that's where it starts I mean you know your local your local sheriff your your five county commissioners like do you know them right do you know what this means to local life it means a lot means a lot so yeah I agree don't disagree with anything you're saying I agree but um it's important yeah and people need to get out there and and vote local like yeah figure out figure out what's going on in your town your city and don't worry don't worry so much about what's going on on the face of the earth because that's overwhelming. Like you you can't you cut it's not the be all all be all you know yeah yeah and you have to support the people that are are willing to are willing to take on the snakes that are at the top of the fucking pyramid I mean you know if you just had a sheriff like Sheriff Hampu and uh or whatever his name was in Mexico and was yeah no we're not gonna do that. No that's that's not happening. Fuck yeah like I don't know exactly what the fuck is called and not protect like you know what's going on. And it's important to pay attention to local politics more than it is to pay attention to your federal politics because good luck with that it's a fucking fire like you're you're not you're not gonna change any of that shit. But what you could do is elect somebody like Dylan saying and you know somebody who holds your core values and is willing to fight for them. Like why would you not want to do that? You know oh yeah so it's stuck in that whole fagazi of offended government we got yeah yeah it's crazy and good luck good luck trying to hunt that shit down dog will hunt like just yeah if you paid attention to local and you knew what was going on and you knew your county commissioners and you knew they were good people that gave a fuck yeah yeah that's where it starts it don't start at the federal level like federal level you could get me going all day about that but yeah it does start locally and we do need to be aware of what is going on and what laws are being passed and what fucking data centers they're trying to create and we do need to be informed and those people need to be informed.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:46

And if they're informed like you know what I mean it's just yeah well see this is the thing our the Earl Buddy and all them you know they've they've known about these data center proposals since 2024 and then it just got into public information. All of that stuff is supposed to be public but it was kept hidden so like because that whole that whole moratorium thing yeah the only reason why the only reason why that was even like brought up in in a sense was because it was the ending of the two years and then they were going to try to do another two years. Nobody knew in 2024 about a data center. That's why it's just now getting you know very I'm there was rumors about in 2025 but and then it really picked up over the wintertime in 2026. So I just wanted to throw that out that you know you we're looking for politicians that won't hold those secrets that won't you know work against the people you know that they are for the people that you know they it should be you know it should be public it you know if not then what the fuck is the government for?

SPEAKER_03 1:41:07

Right exact exactly what is it fucking for if it's not for the people it's against the people right that's my like that's my big thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:18

And that's smash time you know we can't have that we can't stand for it and if nothing else at least we're talking out against yeah at least we're brave enough to do that most people are yeah so a hundred percent I have uh so there's three there's three district county commissioners that uh work with the at-large ones and they so me personally alright look look I I like Mike Hart okay I do I do too I do too I do I know her personally yeah there's a uh there's a there's a guy that you know I went to school with I went to school with this family I've known this family for probably since I was seven or eight and they're really good people Patrick Flaherty of Lusby he's he's entering the race against Mike Hart he believes that he could be more conservative he could prioritize more class of to what we're shooting for right he is definitely he's he's the one that he's the one that brought it to like my attention on his on his Facebook page he was like I need people to know about this he essentially went into the records and found out that that this stuff was from 2024 and that they've known about it and then that there was a six million dollar deal with the Dominion plant and that the commissioners kind of took the money and they sold the land to private developers when it was supposed to be public for the people so he's the one that really started my journey of like actually looking into these politicians essentially and being like what are they really about how can I decipher them so I like I said I like I like Mike Hart but I I honestly I'm gonna be aggressive here. I'm really I'm gonna be aggressive I'm gonna vote for Flaherty right you know you feel like he's a better spot for what you align with right and you know and and I'm not going to yeah well Mike Hart's been there for a while anyway he has yeah and you know he owns that liquor store why are all of our commissioners liquor store owners did you realize that yeah it's true it's so true all right okay so I am going to I'm gonna alright I'm gonna end this with talking about Steve Weams there's a few other ones I I might we might have to make a part two to this or something because I gotta get off here in a few yeah yeah yeah me too me too but uh I'm ready to fucking tie this up but but I I yeah I will talk about Steve Weams for a second let me pull up his uh thing so he is running he's running for treasurer of Calvert okay and I'll support him till the end of the earth buddy yes oh yeah here we go when somebody picked on me when I was fucking six years old and called me Carrot he told him he'd better shut the fuck up like that how long I've been knowing the weams like yeah the whole the whole family I can send you pictures I got pictures of him and his brother like yeah dude bro I know the wings very well and Ronnie Wims owned the liquor store in St. Runner and which Steve owns now and bruh let somebody say something dirty about the motherfuckers like it ain't true like he is who you think he is all I'm gonna say Yeah yeah yeah he's one of us Winter Lady all that shit all of it all of it love you see so you know and he believes that you know that what he can do as treasurer essentially you know you know that will you know will help us you know that that you know conservative that we need and he's been um he has been running for s like several spots you know getting on board here board there you know raising yeah yeah yeah yeah and so now it looks like he wants to take you know kind of that back seat of like a you know like a financial you know making sure that our counties are i is good and uh straight so you know he's got the fucking family runs deep bro okay I know oh yeah yeah a hundred percent so and okay so for everyone listening I think what I want to do is I'm I I would let's see because if you know we're gonna we're doing Calvert County you know I might want to research the other districts that are also in Calvert and see how they align up and then make like a a little pot on that doesn't have to be a full one it could be like a uh in like an a little endorsement thing that's fun that's fine you know uh so I guess we do need to inform yeah our local people of what you're talking about like who's running who's right who's around this way who isn't because like yeah it's uh fucking important dude uh a hundred percent so I think yeah I think I'm gonna start I'm gonna work on that for everyone in Calvert and uh part of St.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:45

Mary's because a few districts kind of overlap but so alright any uh final thoughts because I do have to hop off yeah me too no doubt final thoughts are this get involved in your local politics and see what the people that you're voting for are willing to stand up for and it's not you know your government's just controlling you you're not controlling the government um that would be my final vote perfect Carl you got anything don't trust AI chatbots I just had one hit hold on wait looks hot she looks hot but I don't think no I'm just trying to add it on the lap so let's let's all right so we guys we're not peace out of you guys