Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0

Terry on Jeff Mara Podcast: Full Recap & Key Takeaways

Susanna Massari Season 2 Episode 19

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Terry reflects on her widely viewed interview on the Jeff Mara Podcast, and the hosts discuss personal experiences while sharing their perspectives on the raising of consciousness and human evolution.

 

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SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0. I'm Susanna Maseri, Psychic Medium and author of Living Beyond Death. My co-hosts are Psychic Medium Annalise Sebastiani and ET experiencer Terry Scalia. We focus on grounded, honest conversations about consciousness, mediumship, channeling, ET's psychology, and modern spiritual culture. Thank you for joining us. Today we are going to recap Terry's interview on the Jeff Mara podcast, her overwhelming response she received, and just how many people have shared similar experiences. So here we are, Terry Annalisa and myself.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for doing this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, how was that? How was that? Jeff is a great interviewer.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, my God. Jeff is the sweetest guy. We talked for about, I don't know, a few minutes prior to the recording, and he just made me feel at ease. And we just talked about whatever, you know, not necessarily what I was going to be talking about. And it really made me feel better. So I guess I was a little bit nervous. I don't typically get nervous when I talk about this subject, but sometimes I do. So anyway, I was a little nervous, but he made it a lot easier for me.

SPEAKER_02

He's a real calming voice, too. I was just gonna say.

SPEAKER_00

He absolutely does.

SPEAKER_01

And he knows exactly when to ask a question and how to ask it. And he has this calming voice. There's no judgment to his interviews, and he treats everyone as important. Yep. He respects everyone. He does.

SPEAKER_00

Even if he doesn't necessarily agree with you or may not agree with you, he respects everyone exactly the same and just lets them tell their story. Yeah. That's one of the things I really like about him. We had a really good time, and I was able to share not all of my experiences, but we did get into the major ones, which was great. There were a few things that after it was over, I wished I had included, but didn't even think about it. Like when I was talking about my awakening after I had my first encounter with going aboard the spacecraft with my daughter, I was talking about what had transpired after that with how they had jumpstarted me and the things that had started happening, like my out-of-body experiences and things like that. And the major thing that happened that I didn't even say, which I was kicking my butt for, was the downloads that I was receiving. And it was like someone had opened a floodgate, and all of this knowledge just came pouring in all at one time. And it was just massively, it was overwhelming. And this was going on for like hours during the day, and I didn't understand what was going on. I really thought at that point that I was losing my mind. I really thought that I was gonna have to go to the hospital or something because just all of this information of not necessarily uh who I was as an ET, but who I was as a human being and why I came here. Not just me, but everybody, why we're all here. What is this whole thing about? All of that knowledge came just pouring in. And uh after it kind of subsided, I went to a bookstore and bought a book called Out on a Limb by Shirley McLean. And I was just trying to absorb as much information as I possibly could. I was like a sponge, I couldn't get enough information. And I started reading this book, and the weirdest thing about reading that book was now keep in mind, I was brand new to all this stuff. I wasn't into metaphysics at all. I was completely clueless about this stuff. And I'm reading this book, and she's talking about all of her metaphysical experiences, and it wasn't like I was learning something new. The feeling that I got was, oh, I I know that. Oh, I remember that. Oh, yeah, that's right. Like I was remembering everything versus, oh, wow, that's really interesting. That's really cool. I never heard that before. It was so weird. And the book is really, it was a pretty small book, and it didn't take me long to get through it. But man, when I was done with that, I was at the back at the bookstore. Give me more, give me more, give me more. So that was a major thing. I was trying to think of the all the different things that had happened to me when I started having my awakening. That was a major thing, and I didn't even say it on there. I completely forgot it because I remember being, I know there's more. My mind just kind of went blank.

SPEAKER_02

I got a shout out to Shirley McLean because she was fodder for a lot of late night humor when that book came out. And I think she brought a lot of people to the realization that they're having metaphysical experiences. That's my personal opinion on it. Because I remember seeing her and her trying to talk about what chakras were, and then the them not letting her get through a sentence because people were laughing. And it's like that was a brave woman to put that out there that she had these experiences and she was sharing what she went through.

SPEAKER_01

She was instrumental in bringing this to everyone. And she caught a lot, a lot of flack for that. She was made fun of and stay in your lane, you're an actor, you know, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow, that makes me sad. I was not aware of that, that she had gone through all of that. That's really sad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But the same thing happened to me after my interview with Jeff. I got off and uh it was like, oh shoot, I forgot to tell him this. I forgot to say this.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was a major one that I missed talking about. But I think the interview went really well. I was a little more animated than I wanted to be. My hands flying all over the place. It's not me if my hands aren't funny. I'm so passionate about this. Good. When I start talking about it, my whole body just fills with energy, and I just start talking fast, and my hands are going like this, and you know, and I just get so crazy. After he posted it, and the comments started coming in, and I started reading the comments. People were so kind, so sweet. They were so understanding, they were so oh, I uh it really did my heart good to read those because they were so loving and kind. There was a couple of people that said something about one person said something. I was all in until she started talking about politics. And I never talked about politics.

SPEAKER_02

Weird.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't talk about it I talked about how the system doesn't work, it's kind of fallen apart because we have to rebuild it and make it something better.

SPEAKER_02

That's not politics.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I didn't quite understand where that came from, but compared to every what everyone else was saying, I mean, everyone else was very, very accepting and loving. And what made me cry, there was a lady who said, I wonder if her husband, because I talked about my ex-husband during this, I wonder if her husband and her friends and her children or something have been supportive of her throughout all of this. And I was going through the comments and I was commenting, I was replying back to some of the comments. And I went to reply to this lady and let her know that my family does support me. And I saw my daughter had replied to her. Oh, I know. And I and she said, She's my mom and I adore her with a heart. I know. I just got all teary-eyed, and I'm like, oh my gosh. Now my kids support me, they have always supported me, but no one has ever supported me in a public forum. Wow. And that was just really super huge. Wow. I mean, all my kids have watched it, all my kids had just thought it was really, really good. I mean, they've heard all the stories before, right? I've told them the story since they were young. This is what happened to me. And I'm not gonna say they all believe what I believe. I think they believe that I believe what I believe, if that makes sense. I don't know if that made sense.

SPEAKER_02

It does. No, it makes sense because they trust that you believe what you're saying or talking about. They haven't experienced it, so they have no opinion necessarily.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, correct. But they're definitely open-minded to it, especially now. A big part of me feels very vindicated because especially when it started coming out on mainstream news and all of that, talking about the UAP and all of that. It's like I wanted to call so many people and go, see? I told you, I know. I've been talking about this for 40 years. Sometimes it's just fun.

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I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00

But anyway, the comments were really sweet. And then I started getting the emails because I'd given my email at the end of the show and the podcast, and then the email started coming in and so supportive. I got an email from Zimbabwe, I got an email from France and Thailand, um, the UK, and then a lot of people in the United States, and they're just they want to share their stories. You know, people just want someone to listen to them. Yeah, they just want to yes, they just they want to tell their stories. So I felt really honored that so many people shared their experiences with me. That's just priceless. We are disclosure, we are making this disclosure happen one person at a time. And if everyone can get out there and and I know it's hard because it was hard for me, especially back in the 80s when that kind of thing was you're crazy, you're a tinfoil hat wearing crazy person. I think the first time I shared my story, Sue was at your house.

SPEAKER_01

I know you shared it with Tom over the phone.

SPEAKER_00

And he asked me if I would come and share it at your meetup group, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and I was really like iffy and kind of scared to do that because I didn't know what people were gonna say, but I did it and it felt so liberating. Oh my gosh. I just felt so much better to get that off my not that I hadn't talked about it before, I had to people that I know, but not to strangers. I never talked about it to strangers, and ever since then I've been out there doing my thing, and I've spoken at meetup groups, I've been on the radio, I did an interview with Misha Johnson. I think she was the first interview I did on the internet. That was many, many years ago. And I showed up at meetup groups, and I went to a meetup group one time. It was a a meetup group where they were discussing UFOs and are they real and all of this. This was a few years ago. And I went and it was held in a room at the back of a restaurant. I didn't know anybody in there, not one person did I know in that whole room, and there's probably 25, 30, maybe 40 people in there. And while we were waiting for it to get started, we were just kind of all chatting amongst ourselves at the tables we were sitting at. And I had mentioned to one of the people there that I had had an experience, and next thing you know, I'm like given the floor, and now I'm staying in front of all these people, and it was so weird because I stood up there in front of all of these people, and everybody's staring at me, and I started to feel nervous, and then all of a sudden I felt this warmness go through me, and it was like everything's okay, and I just started talking, and I told him this, and I told him that. I, you know, I told him not every story, but I told him a lot of the stuff that had happened to me, and then afterwards, the hands are flying up. People had tons of questions, and I remember one of the bless his heart, this older gentleman. I want to say he was probably in his late 60s. Oh god, I'm in my late 60s. I'm like, wait a minute, old anyway. Let's say he was in his mid-70s, that makes me feel better. So he he raised his hand and he's sitting there, he's got a really grumpy face. And I called on him and he said, if they're so what do you say, if they're so loving, he said, why don't they come down here and wipe out ISIS? And I was like, Oh god. Okay. Interesting combination of words. Yeah, wipe out ISIS. I don't remember exactly what I said. Oh, I think I was telling him that they're not gonna come and save us. We're the ones that created this. We have to save ourselves, kind of thing. And but when it was over, so many people afterwards came up to me and you know, was telling me, oh, thank you so much for sharing your stories, and that was so interesting. And you know, and then people were telling me about some things that had happened to them. And I mean, we just have to get out there and talk. There's so many people out there who have had experiences like this, and they've not said anything. And if all of us came out of our ET closet, like I like to call it, and just do it and just start talking about it, that's gonna make disclosure happen a lot quicker, I think.

SPEAKER_01

So Terry was also a presenter at one of our retreats in St. Montreal.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I remember you also had read something that you did with automatic writing, and it was so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

I was doing automatic writing, and I haven't done automatic writing in quite some time. I did get some really good messages, very loving, very positive messages. I should start doing that. I should start doing all of this stuff again. I keep saying that to myself. How many hours in a day? Yeah, I don't know why I'm holding back.

SPEAKER_02

There'll be time. It's time, it'll hit you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm getting that your dad has now many ETs are our guides. And what I'm picking up is that your dad has been in communication with the guide. E.T. He has met this guide of yours, and you guys are are part of the same E.T. family, but your dad is also part of another race, also.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to pick up on what and where. This is really kind of strange. The guide that I'm picking up for you, and he's been a lifetime guide. Not everybody has a lifetime guide, uh, which goes against what a lot of people believe. That he's from a race, a really obscure race that people are not focused on. It's not like the the races that we're familiar with. This is a very obscure race. They're very private. It's like they don't they don't want to make a presence here, that their goal is to reach certain individuals to work with them on an energetic and telepathic way. They're extremely evolved, very highly evolved, very adept with uh technology, their type of technology, and the way that they've grown and evolved. They are in touch with emotions, but their emotions are not subdued, but they're kept in even not kept in check, because then that implies that their emotions can get wild. They don't need the emotions, they have the emotions, but they are more understood as part of their consciousness and not the whole consciousness. It's not like us. We are run by our emotions. This is basically an emotional universe, and we are emotional beings. We we're very reactionary with our emotions, and they're not. Uh, they have learned to keep the emotions as part of their consciousness, they're not run by the emotions at all. I'm also feeling my dad coming through because I was thinking of him before when we were talking about both of your dads, and I was wondering where's my dad in all of this? Is he social? And so I'm feeling my dad around. But uh to get back to the ET that is specifically working with you, Terry.

SPEAKER_00

Is that the guy that showed up in my bedroom that day, that night?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and it was the same one when I was talking to you on the phone when I was in the doctor's office in the waiting room. Oh, right. That showed up. And I think I said it was the same one, and that was your guide. That is the one. Tell him to come back. That guy brings hope. Like I've been saying for years, they're just waiting for you.

SPEAKER_00

Jeff said something really interesting during that interview or that podcast. He said, Do you think maybe when you leave this earth you will wake up back in the body that's on the spaceship as the Pleiadian? And then that Pleiadian would come down to Earth and be part of that whole disclosure thing. When he said that, I was like, Oh my gosh, that would be so cool if that Pleiadian would be part of the groups that would that are going to come here and make themselves known. I want that to happen. That would be really awesome.

SPEAKER_02

That's interesting that it it's triggered something in you, that it sparked something.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. As soon as he said it, I went, ooh, my eyes went up.

SPEAKER_01

And it's like, do you really believe that's going to happen? What? That they're gonna come down here and say, here we are.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't think it's gonna be, I think they will come here. I don't know how they're going to do that, but I do believe they're going to do that. And I don't know which races are going to do that. I tend to think it's going to be the Pleiadians are going to be part of that. And they're going to, first of all, we have to get acclimated to the whole idea that they're right. Can't believe we're still working on are they real or not. But it's going to take a little bit of time for us to be ready to have that one-on-one contact.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think it's going to be a very long time. You too. Several hundreds of years.

SPEAKER_02

We've got we've got so much technology that can fool us in other ways. I think it's going to be hard for people to decide what's what.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But that ET on that spaceship that I'm part of her consciousness is so old that even if it is hundreds of years from now, she could still wake up and be part of that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but there's no time for them either. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how it's going to all unfold, but well, whether I'm here or not, or whether we're all here or not, I don't know. But I think eventually they're going to come.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I think they've let us know in so many different ways that they're here, and they have the ability of choosing the people that they're going to show themselves to. It's not that we're not ready. Our consciousness, we have not evolved in a higher consciousness.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We're not there yet. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

We're not even close.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_01

They are choosing, in my opinion, this is just in my opinion, they are choosing people that uh live their life with integrity. Mm-hmm. Interesting. There was uh God, I can't remember his name. Or Billy Meyer. I think it was Billy Meyer, that said, I maybe maybe mistaken, so please don't quote me on this. Said that they watch people for 10 years before they make contact with someone to make sure that they live in integrity and are ethical.

SPEAKER_00

I've always been on the fence with Billy Meyer.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't followed anybody. I just don't follow people that much.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't typically use it.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I depend on my experiences, but because everybody has their own experiences. Everybody's creating their own or designing their own experiences. And we may get that information in many, many different ways with so many different people.

SPEAKER_02

And it's element filter of the person who's giving it too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I just have always gone by what I experience, and you know, thankfully I have Abram to bounce stuff off now for almost two decades. But I think it's just gonna happen person by person right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right now. Because think of it. If they literally came down and said, We are real, how long would it be before people started shooting at them? You know, I mean Yeah, like the original movie of the day the eat stood still. Exactly. Yep. It would not be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01

If they can shut down a nuclear facility at a base, an Air Force base, to show that they can, shooting at them is not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_02

But if the whole reaction would be just idiotic.

SPEAKER_01

We we watched a documentary, and you know, with these documentaries, it's uh it all depends on somebody's experience. But they were talking about in Vietnam that these men saw a UFO and they were ordered to shoot at it and they shot at it, and the UFO turned the bullets right back on them.

SPEAKER_00

I hadn't heard that one.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if that's true. Uh yeah, I'm just repeating what we saw. Wow. But we are the aggressors. Always.

SPEAKER_00

If they wanted to do us harm, we'd all be dead right now.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. I mean, and it's funny because we're the ones who are destroying the planet. Like we're the ones who are doing the destructive stuff. But we're so sure that people are coming at us that we're ready to count. It's the way we've always done things.

SPEAKER_01

If they wanted to enslave us, they would have already done it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you just don't know to some degree. I have this really, I don't want to say fear, feeling more, I guess. Feeling that the government is going to do this false flag thing. And that really, I hope they don't, but I have a fear that they will. And that's going to cause more people to be afraid of them, which is the whole purpose of it. Well, that would be a great distraction technique.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's worked before.

SPEAKER_00

We've got so many distractions going on right now, and funny all at the same time. It's like, what do I look at? What do I, you know, what's going on in this distract? You know, what's going on in this thing? Whatever. It's insane.

SPEAKER_02

I listened to this woman who's an animal communicator and she talks to a lot of cats. And cats, to her surprise, have been the ones that can go jump dimensions, that know things that are going on metaphysically, that are not just cute little fuzzy pets. And so I've been listening because it just fascinates me. And they're like so blasé about it. When she talks about it, she's like, they're like, Yeah, you've destroyed this planet several times and we've rebuilt it several times. It'll happen again. Like it's just Tuesday. But it makes sense. It's not just cash.

SPEAKER_01

The animal consciousness is so far ahead of far advancedness.

SPEAKER_00

Far advanced. Yeah, I agree. We think we're the ones on the top. Oh bless our hearts. Yeah, I know. That's the arrogance of us as humans, I guess. I don't know. We just have to take it one day at a time, guys. Yeah. Just one day at a time. All you can do. Try to get through this.

SPEAKER_02

Stay in the present. I mean, as much as we like to say we can kind of see the future, whatever gifts people have for that, I don't really like to do that. Because the future is something you create as you're going, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. I agree with that. What I keep trying to tell myself to try to stay calm is we are going through a very historical moment. And the fact that we are here to live through it ourselves is pretty miraculous. And getting told it's a gift. You kind of want to return it sometimes. I know, I know, I know, I know. Like the white elephant gift, right?

SPEAKER_01

You're just trying to like the fruitcake you get every Christmas.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Fruitcake is so great.

SPEAKER_02

Great doorstop of all things. Just pass it around. Pass it around.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, I know. But this is a pretty interesting time. And I feel really blessed and honored to be able to experience this. That's what I came here for. I came here to experience this. I think so. I think I did too. And I we all did.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that there are many times in my life when I was studying history in school, even going, what would I have done during Nazi Germany time? What would I have done?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. And now we're given the opportunity. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. That's really good. And at least I like that. If we could think about what happened in the time of the World War II with the Hitler and all of that. Yeah. And we judge the people who stayed silent. We do. And we go, why can you just let this happen right in front of your face and not do anything? We are in that position right now. Not quite as bad. We are in a position right now where we need to start speak up and let people know that this is not good.

SPEAKER_02

And I think now I believe people when they said, we didn't know that was really happening. We were told something else. Hindsight being 2020, you're like, how could you not see that? How could you not smell the cream of torments? How could you not see the detention camps?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, think about the people right now who are not seeing. There's millions of them that are just walking around going, Oh, yeah, this is normal, you know, and you know, everything's great, and you know, everything's gonna be fine and everything's gonna be fixed, and we're gonna have all this money and misinformation. Yeah, I'm sure there are people in World War II that see the truth, just like we can see the truth.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. And still have to say, stay protected in some way, not to be so much of a the squeaky wheel that uh you get eliminated.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Until we evolve and raise our consciousness, uh history is going to repeat itself just in different forms.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

We're just gonna keep uh doing this and doing this and doing this and doing this. You know, at some point, when do we say this is enough? We're tired of this hamster wheel.

SPEAKER_02

I used to have this little card, it was like a calling card that you could give to people, and it said, if you want to keep an idiot busy for hours, turn over the card. And you turn over the card and it says, if you want to keep it busy for hours, turn over the card. That's kind of what it feels like.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

And Lisa, have you had like a huge awakening that kind of marks a time in your own development?

SPEAKER_02

When I started to really think this was real, I had always been really fascinated by it. Like okay, I'll talk you. When I was a little little, Bewitched was my favorite show. And I wanted to be able to move objects with my mind. Like that was I even had dreams that I was able to do it. But you know, when I came out of that and grew into my like middle school years, I was like, well, that's probably not possible for everyone. I mean, I still believe it's probably possible for some, but it's probably not possible for everyone, and I may not be that special. But then I started having premonitions, and they weren't good ones. They were like, someone's gonna die. And I'd be right. And that started to scare me. And I was like, I don't like this, I don't want this gift. So I can point to like three times in my life where I said, I don't want this gift. And the third time, I was literally in my head, I could hear, This is the last time, choose it or don't choose it. And that's when I chose it. But early on in high school, I had an experience, I may have talked about it before, where a friend of the family died and he was doing work on the house. He didn't die in her house, he was doing work in the house, so I was like kind of around him, and I thought he was cute. So I had a little bit of a crush on him. A young guy in like early 20s, and I was a teenager, 17, 16, and uh went jogging one day and dropped dead. Had just gotten engaged. It was a horribly sad situation. And I remember my prom was that day, but so they didn't tell me. They didn't tell me until the next morning after my prom. And I was heartbroken, and my parents were gonna go to the Rosary Catholic family. That's what we do. And I couldn't go. I told them to go without me. I couldn't go. So I stayed home and I literally cried myself to sleep.

SPEAKER_00

Aww.

SPEAKER_02

And I heard my parents come back home, come into my room, and my mom pulled the covers on top of me, and my eyes are closed. I can't see anything because I'm half asleep, and covers got tightened up onto me, and I'm like, Good night, mommy. And I looked up and there was nobody there. Now I'm like, what the hell just happened? And I closed my eyes real tight and I can feel someone kind of move the covers again and get in bed with me. And I couldn't see anything except I could feel this radiation of light, of heat. Literally saw it in my mind's eye glowing, a glowingness. And nothing was said except that I was, oh my god, if this is you, Joey, I really like that you're here, but I'm terrified. Boom, it was gone. I was so mad at myself for that. Wow. But I think he came to visit me, and that's when I first realized I might be able to talk to people who've crossed over because that happened every time somebody died. I'd have an experience. And it wasn't like I'm gonna sit down and talk with you because I wasn't there yet. But it was definitely one of those feelings where like, I'm really interested in this, and I keep having these kind of experiences. Maybe there's something to it. And that's literally, I think I was 17, 16 when I realized this is what I wanted to try and pursue. But when did I meet you, Sue? I didn't meet you until 2001 when I'm in like my 30s, 20, late 20s or whatever. So yeah, it took me a while.

SPEAKER_01

I remember the first time we talked, you were walking back to your hotel room, and I was driving by in the car, and I stopped you and asked, I think I asked you if you wanted to go get something to eat, or if you wanted to.

SPEAKER_02

I hope I said hell yes.

SPEAKER_01

Something.

SPEAKER_02

And there was the start of the connection where we would just like look at each other and roll our eyes at everyone.

SPEAKER_00

We always uh work out a way to find each other, don't we? Yeah, we just think so.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we recognize it because I was feeling pretty isolated in that group at the beginning. And also I was staying in a trick pad. I mean, it wasn't a motel, but it was literally a trick pad. I ended up staying there too. It was scary. Ooh. What did you say? A trick pad? You know, prostitution. Oh gosh. Yeah, oh no, it's my dad's terminology. Disgusting. It was, I mean, it was creepy. And they got mad at me the last time I stayed. Another reason why I didn't pursue the the long-term teaching credential there was when I walked into my motel room, smelled death. No, death. And they were airing it out, and it was the only one left, and I yeah, could spend much more at the hotel that was farther away, or it could stay at this place, and I was just exhausted. I'm like, fine, I'll just stay here. I literally stupid, I literally stayed in this smelly, death-ridden room because a raccoon had died in between the walls, is what they told me. And I believed it because it didn't dawn on me that the death smell is so permeated into this room, it's because someone might have been there for three days. Oh years later, it dawned on me. But I stayed in this room and I met everyone. I met Barb. This was a new class of people. You were you there that that time when I had the room? Probably. I think so. Yeah. Anyway, it was like everyone was. I think we met the like the first class. Yes, we did. So this would be farther down. This would be like the last class. And I can't believe I stayed in that room and was like, all right, I'll just deal with it. My clothes smelled, it was in my nostrils for days. I can't imagine what I smelled like when I walked in. I because you get nose blind. Again, you actually do get nose blind, right? Even though I could still smell it. I didn't realize it was on my clothes that people could probably I could just walk by someone and a whiff could happen. And I just I was stupid. It did.

unknown

God damn it.

SPEAKER_02

Um, sorry. I remember. But it was it was I really needed to stay there for some reason and not have my brain go, you know what? A raccoon dying in the middle of walls is not gonna smell the entire room like that. So now I get to be creeped out in reverse or in you know, after the fact. Wow, crazy. Wow, yeah. Well, I should have said it. It was it was the universe saying, get the hell out of here. You're done. You came what you came for, you got what you came for, let's go. Was this in St. Augustine? No, this was in Port Port Charlotte. Port Charlotte. Okay. It was close to a Bob Evans. I was really happy it was close to the Bob Evans. We went to Bob Evans a lot. We did. That's what that we hung out there. Yeah, there was a bar where I went in the first day I arrived again alone. Waitress was super nice to me. I was talking with her and I was like, Is there an ATM around here? And she's like, Oh, it's over, and blah blah blah. And I like had to take a cab there. And this guy next to me is like, I'll see you. Um, thank you so much. And then she looked at me and I'm like, She's like, Don't die. Thank you. No, thank you. I'm like, Oh, it's nothing, I'll take and I'm fine. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00

What year was this? 2001. 2001. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That was way before I knew you, Sue.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then my parents, I can't imagine how terrified they must have been for me because I tell these stories and they'd be like, so glad I didn't know that while you were there.

SPEAKER_00

What about your family, Annalisa? Do they support you in all of this that you do?

SPEAKER_02

100%. Now, here's the funny thing. My dad may not have believed in anything I was talking about, but you know, he had his Catholic beliefs, which had room for some paranormal stuff. But he was like, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't seen it, touched it, and it's it's not really real. Fine. But when I had to get my hands fingerprinted and sign up for in San Francisco or California, you have to have um like what did they call it? You have to go through the police to get verified to be a psychic. Like they call it a fortune teller. Really? License. So I had to get one of those, and he took me through the process all with him, through his friends going, Marty, really? Is that going on? It's my daughter. He stood by me and didn't bat an eye. Wow. Now, in other parts of the family, my grandmother was psychic. She wouldn't have called herself that, but she had people coming to her all the time. But as a Catholic woman, she wouldn't call it that. So I learned stuff from her, and it's on my mom's side. And then I found out later that my aunt, my dad's sister, when she was a little girl, her grandmother, my great-grandmother, would take her to the Italian psychic. And she had this experience where, you know, like this is what Nonna did all the time. She would go to this woman, this Italian woman, and get these. I would sit in the parlor and she would go behind the beaded curtain and have these conversations with this woman. So it was in my family, sort of. And so they were pretty, pretty supportive. Yeah. I mean, if I had said I'm leaving home to do this solely, they would have questioned it, obviously. But in terms of me s developing, no, they were totally cool with it. That's awesome. Very grateful.

SPEAKER_00

I hear a lot about these types of things run in families. I don't remember hearing anybody in my family saying, of course, well, that's probably because I don't talk to anybody in my family about it, really.

SPEAKER_02

But that's it. I think a lot of this was shoveled shoveled under a lot of uh carpets. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Two of my sisters are aware. One of them is, I don't believe she's aware. She may be aware if somebody else has told her. I mean, I may have many, many years ago, but it's not something that we talk about. And she's actually going to be here next week for a few days. And she doesn't know about the podcast, she doesn't know about what I do, she doesn't know about any of that stuff. She's in for a surprise. Yeah, so I'm gonna tell her and see what she says. She doesn't even know that she was sitting behind me or sitting beside me on the plane that day when I saw that UFO out the window. Oh, she was reading a book when it happened, and I saw it, and you know, it was only a few seconds and it was gone. And then I looked at her and she's reading her book, and I'm like, Do I say something to her? And I went, nah, probably not. So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell her that. I'm gonna tell her that story.

SPEAKER_02

I love that because maybe she has a different knowledge of that, and even if she doesn't, that was for you anyway. That was just for you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that she's had some paranormal type experiences growing up, but she's the only one, I think, out of well, there's seven of us kids, and then I don't know about grandparents because I wasn't close to any of my grandparents uh growing up because we moved so much that I didn't really know them too too well. But as far as I know, there's never been anybody in my family that's had some kind of an ET experience. I know that my dad told us this story, but about when he was a child, they were migrant farm workers and they would travel. Their home base was in Texas, I believe. And they would travel around the United States and do farming and picking whatever vegetables and whatnot. And I believe he said that they were staying at a little cabin or something on some property of the place where they were picking vegetables and whatnot. And his mother woke him up in the middle of the night and asked him to come to the window and look outside. And he looked outside the window and there was a field, and there was a round, a very large round ring of lights that were just going around. And my grandmother said to him, Something about the witches are dancing tonight or something like that. And I've often wondered if that might have been a UFO that was sitting on the ground with the lights around it. So I don't know. Interesting. I've often wondered if that's really what that was, but I found it interesting that his mother would tell him that the witches, the witches were dancing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, around she probably knew exactly what it was.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, there's a whole group of elementals that are on close to us, but not close to us, so they can kind of dart in and out of our dimension. Why wouldn't UFOs do the same?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. There is god, there's so much that we don't know. Oh my gosh, it's like a head of a pin, you know, the knowledge that we have compared to a freaking ocean of pens, you know. Yeah, we come down here stupid on purpose. Yeah, we do we come down here stupid and then we learn. We learn about it. We come here to learn stuff. Not learn like lessons, but no, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Experience. We come we come learn. Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

What if I blindfolded you and sent you in a circle? What would you be able to learn? I mean, literally, it's that game. Marco.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh, you guys are crazy.

SPEAKER_02

You're just figuring this out, Terry.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

I wanted to give a shout out to everyone that sent you an email.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Followed us on Facebook. Now there's two Facebook pages. It doesn't matter which one you go to. One is Metaphysical HippieChicks 2.0, the other one is metaphysical hippie chicks hashtag 2. It does not matter which one you go to. I post the same things on both of those pages. But I want to thank everyone who follows us on Facebook now. We should be on Instagram and maybe Substack and in time.

SPEAKER_03

We're working on it.

SPEAKER_01

When I learn how to use them.

SPEAKER_03

We're old.

SPEAKER_01

I also want to thank everyone who has subscribed to my YouTube channel, which posts all of our podcasts. I can't tell you how much we appreciate you. And if you have anything that you want us to talk about, we are open. So just email us, make comments on the Facebook page, anything. We'd just love to hear from you. If you've had a near-death experience, we'd love to talk to you. ET experiences, mediumship experiences. We are in the process for right now, it's in the thinking stages of putting together a mediumship development class. It's going to be very down to earth, very geared toward people who are just learning. So we are going to have that put together. We're going to make it fun and informative. And do you have do you guys have anything else to talk about?

SPEAKER_00

I just want to do my own shout out to everyone who has emailed me. I have tried to respond to every single one of them, quite a few. So I'm falling a little bit far behind. But I really appreciate it. You guys sharing your stories with me and just chatting back and forth. It's been really, it's been really nice for me. And and I do appreciate all of your support.

SPEAKER_01

This is a way that we can grow this community, and we are thankful for everyone in helping us do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And it's fun. It is come come join us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You guys have anything else?

SPEAKER_02

I think I'm good. Good, be kind.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Please be kind to each other. Be respectful. Be kind. Be loving. Especially to yourself. Be understanding, especially to yourself. That's right. And try to stay positive.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

One day at a time, people.

SPEAKER_00

One day at a time.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Well, thank you for joining us today. You may reach us individually by going to our website, www.mhc20.com. That's 20.com. Or email us at chicks at mhc20.com. And you can find our podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all other podcast platforms. We so appreciate you. We love you. And we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_03

Bye. Bye.