Confessions of a Spirit Messenger

Originally from the Boston area, Nicole D’Andrea is a Minister for Our Lord & Lady of the Trinacrian Rose, located in Salem, Massachusetts. Nicole began her career in Advertising & Public Relations, but her guidance led her through a series of life transitions, resulting in a second career as a Massage Therapist. This opened a gateway to a heightened spiritual awareness, allowing her to reach her full potential as a natural medium and healer. She is a Reiki Master, a Reconnective Healing Practitioner, and the Medium behind Confessions of a Spirit Messenger, where she shares messages that come from her ‘People’ in Spirit, whom she calls ‘The Messengers.’

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0. I'm Susanna Masteri, Psychic Medium and author of Living Beyond Death. My co-hosts are Psychic Medium Annalise Sebastiani and ET experiencer Terry Scalia. We focus on grounded, honest conversations about consciousness, mediumship, channeling, ET psychology, and modern spiritual culture. Thank you for joining us. Welcome everyone. Our guest today is Nicole DeAndria, medium, massage therapist, Reiki master, reconnective healing practitioner, and the voice behind Confessions of a Spirit Messenger. Through her work, she shares messages from her people in spirit, whom she calls the messengers, offering insight, comfort, and guidance to those seeking a deeper connection with the spiritual world. Hi, Nicole.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Hi, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

So Nicole and I met back in 2016 as we were training to be end-of-life doulas. How did that filter into what you were experiencing, what you were drawn to, and anything else that pertained to your spiritual development after leaving a career in advertising and public relations in Boston.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Sure. I think any normal person would ask why I was there. What were you doing there? And I knew that the training had to do with preparing people who had the grace of knowing that they were about to leave this world and go to the next one. Because as a child, I was in a situation very young. I was eight years old where my grandmother had been dying of cancer and in the home, you know, with all of us caring for her, but I was completely helpless at the time. So when the training came up, something about it just called to me. It was like, you know, this is gonna almost like close a loop for you. You're gonna see some things that you needed to understand as a kid, but no one could have explained to you anyway. And because my grandmother was the first spirit person that ever popped up and decided to say, hey, I knew that this was I needed to do this. And yeah, so I mean, being on both sides of the process made sense to me. So decided to give it a try. And that's how I met you. So it was faded.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

I know it's um another lifelong friendship for me. Yeah. So what happened being in the corporate world and being in Boston, and you end up in Florida? I'm curious as to how that led to you being a minister in Boston.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

A lot of it is not very you couldn't have plotted it on a map if you were like, oh, I'm gonna do this thing. And no, life took me places. The first thing that happened, I was in, so I was in Massachusetts and I was doing the corporate thing. I met the man who would be my husband. We moved to Texas. This was my big grown-up moment to be away from everything I knew. And I got there, I had a corporate job lined up, and we got married. And six months into living in Texas, I lost everything. I lost my job. They merged with another company and cut my entire company, like they cut my whole department. Everyone was scrambling looking for jobs. So it's not like I what was available, I could just be like, oh, good, there's an opening over here. Yeah, there was like 50 people looking for the same job. So I had to transition into massage therapy because that I had and I didn't even remember doing this, but I had written in a journal like years before that that I wanted to do that. So I was like, okay, I'm in a new place, I don't know anybody. I have some like bridal shower money or something that I had stashed, and I'm like, I'm gonna go be a massage therapist. I might as well do something different. And once that happened, everything started to open for me. Things that I had put aside that were gifts that I had denied were gifts. Even seeing my grandmother, I was like, No, that didn't. Well, it happened, but it won't ever happen again. Or people were negating what I was telling them because I was that kid. I was like, hey, why can't I have coffee? I used to have coffee when I was big all the time, and why can't I have it now? And they were like, What do you mean you were big? And I was like, What do you mean? How do you know you didn't know I was big? I used to be big, I used to have coffee, and I was trying to explain this. Like everyone was supposed to know, and they were like, Yeah, Nicole, you're you you were a baby and now you're like four. So I had to keep denying things. The one grace that I had is that my mother believed me when I told her I saw my grandmother, and other little things were happening that nobody could deny. Like I came home and on my bureau where my grandmother's picture was, all of my very meticulously anal retentively placed figurines that I had would all be turned to face the picture. And I was like, who is in thy room? Somebody mess with my stuff. And my mom was like, No, Nicole, look, they're all facing grandma's picture. And I was like, Yeah, you can't acknowledge that because if you do, then I have to acknowledge it. And then the conversation opens and people reject me every time. And I was so sensitive. I was always sensitive. I was the kid that cried all the time when something happened. So all that got pushed aside, but now here I am in an adulthood. I'm away from everything. So nobody that ever like told me I was wrong about those things was around. I was in a new place, I was doing new things, and this just crept right in. And I'm in the room doing Reiki because a friend of mine had uh tuned me, and suddenly stuff is happening that I can't explain. And I had in years past, this is another this is a sidebar that's gonna connect back to this. Because this, I'm telling you, you couldn't applauded this. It's insane, insane. When I was in college, because I was away from home for a while, I did start opening up a little bit. And back in the day, like one house TVs were a thing, like you only had one TV in the whole house that was connected to cable. And there was a program on. Do you guys know? Oh my god, I'm gonna forget his name. I can't think of his first name, Anderson. That was George? Yes, George. George Anderson, yeah. I had read a book that was all about him, and he was gonna be on one of these like TV magazine programs, and I was like, Well, I gotta see this because I read that book. And it was the only place I'd ever found where somebody was talking about speaking to someone once they passed. So I went in the room, I was like, Mom, can I watch this program tonight? I was like, I don't know, 18, 19. And she's like, Well, what is it? No, I told her to watch it. Well, here's the thing: I didn't know that she was that on board with it until years passed, and I came home from college, and suddenly she was watching John Edward crossing over on her own, and I was like, something's cooking here. So she says to me, Nicole, I want to do this thing. Do you want to come? And I was like, What are you talking about? I was watching John Edward, and I was like, Why and how did this happen? And she's like, There was a commercial on in Brookline, Massachusetts at the Holiday Inn. There's gonna be three mediums there on a platform, and they're gonna do the whole audience and me and your and your aunt, and we're all gonna go. Do you wanna come? And I was like, I think my head's gonna explode right now. Yeah, I do. I want to go. So just like with the band, when you have openers, they're not as good as the the headliner, right? So the first person was a little wishy-washy, and I was like, Man, I thought this was gonna be better. I'm kind of disappointed. The second person was a little bit better, but then here came my mentor, who would end up being my mentor years later, Jackie. And she walks out on the stage and she says, I have a date that I need to bring out. And she says the date. And me and my family just turned white. Now, everybody in the crowd, you guys all know, they're all like, Oh, it's me, it's me, it's me. Everyone wants to be picked. I was terrified. It's like, this can't be real. This, this is gonna make me have to face this. And so the person's like, This is a birthday, this is this, this is it. She's like, No, this is a death anniversary. And I was like, That's us. So, of course, my mother shoots up out of the chair. By the end of this little program, she was in my mom's very aggressive. She's a small Italian woman, but she's terrifying. She's running across the lobby to tackle this woman because she wants her to come to the house. And I'm like, Oh my god. What is happening right now? Well, she comes to the house, she does the reading. Even my grandmother, who's like, you know, from Italy and super religious, and I didn't think was into this had come. And after that experience, I was unsettled, but I still wasn't ready to be like, let me just, you know, jump right in and be like, oh, I do this thing. So years pass and I'm still quiet. But now I'm in Texas and I'm a massage therapist and I'm a Reiki master. And I'm like, I don't know how I became one of these people. This this is exactly not who I was ever. My mom says, Oh, I'm gonna do a reading with her. Do you want, do you want to be on the phone with us? You want to listen in? I was like, Yeah, why not? Sure. So I listen in, and at some point, while they had like I was muted so that they could talk. I was like, Hey, um, I unmuted myself and I was like, Hey, can I ask a question? And they were like, Oh my god, we forgot you were there. And I said, Yeah, I gotta ask you this question about my grandfather. And somewhere in there, here's Jackie. She's like, Hold on a second, and I'm like, Oh god. She goes, You do what I do, right? I'm like, no, no, I don't do that. No, no, she goes, Yeah, you do. And I was like, No, no, I don't do that. She goes, Nicole, you've been doing this since you were a little kid. I said, Oh no, that was my imagination. And then I was like, You idiot. Why would you even say that? That's the purse, that's how that person, I had to be found. I was never gonna come to the table with that. So now I'm in this point in my life where she knows. You know, like that little meme everyone does, she knows, she knows. I'm like, Yeah, she knows. So she's like, We're gonna start talking about this stuff. We're gonna, I'm gonna talk to you. And the first thing she said to me was, You're not talking to yourself. And I was like, How does she know that I'm not talking anymore? How does she know that I even I couldn't believe any of this? And she's like, I'm gonna have you do this thing. I could not believe she asked me to do this. I think I told you the story. So she goes, I'm gonna have you call my friend. This is cold, completely out of nowhere. She goes, I'm gonna have you call my friend. You're gonna give her a reading. I go, how am I gonna do that? I don't do that. She's like, listen to me. I'm like, I really needed this. Thank you, you know, for smacking me around. She goes, I'm gonna call my friend. I'm gonna have her, I'm gonna let her know you're gonna call her. She's not gonna be mean to you, she's not gonna, you don't have to worry about any of that stuff. Just tell her what comes to you. And I was like, I go, I don't know what you think is gonna happen. I'm gonna talk to this lady and sit there like an idiot. She's like, No, you won't watch. Watch what happens. This happens to you all the time, and you don't know that's what it is. And I'm like, okay, so I'm cleaning my house. I don't know if you guys do this before a reading. Something about cleaning your space makes me feel more grounded. And normal, this is normal for me, yet I don't know what it is. This lady pops into my head, and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, this is what happens to me all the time. But Jackie says it's a thing. I'm like, all right, it's a thing. So I'm letting her show me who she what she looks like. I'm getting a little bit of information. I'm like, okay, whatever. So I get in the phone and I'm like, okay, so there's a woman here, and I start telling her what this woman looks like. I'm like, oh yeah, she has white hair and she's Irish, she's in Ireland, and she's like, yep. And I'm like, hold on a second. What do you mean, yeah? She's like, yeah. I'm like, and it looks like uh she would be like your grandmother, and she's like, yeah. And I'm like, okay, no, you're you're telling me that for the first 30 years of my life, when this was happening to me all the time, this was what this was, and I just thought I was thinking things or whatever. I I didn't know what it was, I didn't know it was communication. So now I'm going through this process, and she's like, yep, yep, yep, yep. And I'm like, oh my God, what am I doing? What have I been doing? And then I get off the phone with her, and this was like Facebook in its infancy. This was like 2008 or nine. So it really wasn't a lot on there, but I did see a picture of her grandmother on there, and I was like, Oh my god, that's the lady. And I was like, but she looks so much better now. And I realized I had nobody to tell this. I'm gonna say anything about I was excited and I couldn't say anything because people would think I was nuts. She's the person who ended up being my teacher, and she's the person who made me prove to myself and didn't have to convince me because she made me do it. So now here I am in Texas and stuff's really happening. And I'm like, oh my god. People are coming to me during sessions, and they're popping up in the room. And she's like, I told her, I'm like, this lady came to the room. She was supposed to be, this is why I know it's real, like lined up beyond my control. We're supposed to be a massage for a couple, and we only had two couples' rooms. Somehow they overbooked it. That's impossible. There's only two squares you can click. How did you you couldn't have done that? Well, this woman ended up by herself, and I ended up being her person for the session. So we go in the back room, she tells me she's tired, she's gonna fall asleep, she doesn't want to talk like we all normally do, because this was one of those couples when they come in, everyone's excited. They were like, Yeah, I'm gonna party in the couple's room. So she starts talking to me, and I'm like, and this is what happens. So, okay, keep talking. Now, as she's talking to me, I'm just doing what I do, which is like I really tune into my person and I try to really hard to work out the things they've asked me to work on, but it opens up a part of me that lets other things in because it's very intuitive work. In the corner of the room as she's talking about her grandmother, I'm like, oh Lord, she says, Oh, you know, I wish I had met my grandmother. My mom said she was a very amazing person. And I'm like, Oh, really? And I look in the room and I see literally physically a little cloud-like formation happening in the corner of the little dimly lit room. And I'm like, oh my god. And I was like, um, I didn't think about it. I just started doing it and I was like, hey, was your grandmother really short? She was like, well, she was Chinese, so probably. And she I said, Was her name Pearl? In a split second, I saw a book that I was reading that day, and it zoned, it zoomed in on uh just the word Pearl. And I was like, Is your name was her name Pearl? And she's like, Well, it was a Chinese name, so it might have translated. I don't know. And I was like, Oh crap, Nicole, you're doing a weird thing. Don't do it. Stop, stop, stop. I'm like, Yeah, I don't know why I said that. Forget it, forget I said all that. So then I go out, get her water. She comes out of the room, she looks all messed up, and I'm like, oh no, you did it with your crazy talk. And she goes, I just remembered something. I was like, What's that? She goes, Well, when I was little, they used to call my mom Little Pearl. I'm just like, Well, maybe your grandmom was Big Pearl, you know, maybe. And she's like, Yeah, I'm gonna ask her. Now, we didn't even have a conversation about this. Like, she never said, Are you talking to my grandmother and spirit? None of that ever happened. It just happened like seamlessly like that. And I freaked out and I was like, heck, you're not gonna believe what happened. And she's like, How might I not believe that happened? I literally told you you could do this. So that's kind of how that started blowing up. And then when I went back to Massachusetts, it's funny, I went back to corporate or like desk job type stuff, and it ruined my whole vibe. That's when I started really figuring out that environment is a big factor for me. I don't know why for other people it isn't, they have a different sense. And then I came back to here to when I finally moved down here to Florida, which was also another not on the list. Then I started to like open back up again and I started doing a little bit of healing work. I started doing some readings for people, and that's when I realized that people don't want to be your friend, they just want you to read for them. And then if you tell them something you don't they don't like, then they hate you because they think you made it happen. And I'm like, really? So if I tell you it's raining outside, but you go outside, it's my fault. Yep. And yeah, so this part of my life is about managing relationships.

SPEAKER_05 16:17

That's called thinning the herd. You just have to know that's not a good person for me.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

None of them are good people for me. I'm in a really uh not healthy environment for my my energy. But at the moment, this is where I have to be, and it's where I'm kind of hovering.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

That's temporary.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Everything is right though.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Temporary. You know, Florida itself has a very strange energy to it. Does it? You know, there's there's such a deep history here of extreme violence going way back to the 1500s. Oh, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

It's a very strange energy here. It was very culture shocky for me. I would fly into Fort Myers, but then I'd have to uh find my way to Port Charlotte uh each time and um when I was going to school there, and it's just like this is so different from California, I don't even know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

It can be a real culture shock coming here.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Well, from what I understand, it's different where you are and where I am. It is an athlete.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

It is.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

I'm in like hedonism on steroids. Oh really? Everybody here wants to drink every night, party, go watch, you know, a concert, go to theme parks. It's permanent vacation. Permanent vacation is exhausting.

SPEAKER_05 17:50

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

And they're not open to a lot of depth. Like, I'm not even gonna attempt to explain the dating pool here. But it's bad. Don't want to go in there.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

How did you get into reconnective healing?

SPEAKER_00 18:06

That happened in Texas too, actually. So many things exploded in Texas.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

Wow. Um well it is a big state.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

It is everything's bigger in Texas, everything is bigger in Texas. The barbecue is awesome. You'll never get Mexican food in the United States somewhere else. Like that is a fact. I mean, it's a fact. The breakfast burrito. Anyway. So as I am I'm working my way through the massage stuff and I'm getting more guidance. But now this is not just dead people guidance. This is not that. A whole bunch of other stuff started happening. I would be working on someone who would ask me for a deep tissue, but I would go to work on them and my body would go limp. And I'm like, what, what? Am I am I having like a sugar shot? What the hell's going on? And I would wait and then I would try it again and I would go limp. And I was like, okay, this is this is not me. So I'm like, what is happening here? They were like, you can't do deep pressure on this person. They won't, it will hurt them. So it was like, it was almost like you had a like a teacher or like a assistant next to you while you're trying to learn your way. And there were other people that they were reacting strange ways on the table. Like they'd come in, and I'm like, okay, you're here because you want a massage. Why are you acting like you don't want a massage? There's one lady, she would come in with like a jumpsuit. No, no, what do you call them? Track suits. So she but nothing. Yeah. So she would like, yeah, and she'd take it off, and that's I'm like, okay, this is very strange, this is ritualistic. But then she'd have her fists clenched on the table. And I'm like, what is she doing? I'm like, well, telling me everything else, might as well ask what's going on here. And they said this person has not been touched with respect for a very long time. And then that they experienced physical trauma or abuse. So I was like, Well, well, what do I do? I mean, if she's here, she wants to try to do something. They were like, adjust, just adjust a little bit. Touch her like you're touching somebody who who real like almost like a baby. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna go with it. What the hell's gonna happen? Nothing bad's gonna happen. So I started doing that. And I noticed her fist started to come out of the fist like position and started to relax. And I'm like, okay, there's way more going on here. I'm being used as an instrument to help people. This is a healing medium ship. This isn't the same as just I talked to dead people, which you know, because of the TV shows at the time, that's what everyone wanted to have when you booked them. But more was happening. So as usual, I was fighting, I was still fighting my guidance a little bit. Like I go to a bookshelf and they'd be like, Oh, read that book. And I'm like, Yeah, I don't want to read that. That lady's and they're like, now this is the book. And I'm like, okay, it's been like 10 times. I'm gonna buy the book. Pick up the book, and it's reconnective healing. And I'm like, there's no, I've seen some of the stuff. Like YouTube wasn't as big as it is now, but I've seen some interviews and I've read, and and I'm like, this is really out there for me, but I had to read it. So I take the book in and I'm reading it now on my breaks. One night nobody came into this whole clinic. I don't know if you've ever been in these massage clinics. You have like the whole um front area that's like a lounge. So everyone's hanging out like it's a club. I was reading the book, and the last thing I remember reading in my little room was if you're reading this book, you're already picking up on these frequencies. And I'm like, see, this is why I didn't want to read this book because it's gonna blow smoke up mass and I'm gonna be mad. I was still in that place a little bit because there's there are a lot of phonies. So I put the book down, I go out into the lounge, and we're talking, and as usual. Italian Nicole has to talk with every single hand motion has to be part of this. And I was talking to this guy, and I was like, Yeah, what it and I was like, what no? Uh something just happened. I felt in my hands something that I did not feel as a norm for even for Reiki. And I'm like, this is something. So I was like, okay. So of course I quietly ran back into the room. And I was like, oh my God, yeah. That's not the same thing as I feel as when I do Reiki. Reiki has different sensations. So I'm like, okay. Nicole has no money, but Nicole has some credit cards. So there was a seminar in Providence, Rhode Island. I was scheduled to go back home for a visit to Cape Cod. And it was starting the day after I was leaving. And because my ex-husband, yeah, that didn't pan out. Um he worked for American Airlines. So we had flight benefits. The only reason I agreed to move to Texas, because you know, being away from everything, I know. So I was like, go back home. I'm gonna stay for this weekend and I'm gonna take this course. I was like, and once again, as you know, I showed up alone and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing here. This is I don't this is wild.

unknown 23:20

I'm doing here.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

And it was being taught by Eric Pearl, who is the guy who wrote the book. And he's a chiropractor who came upon this totally by accident. So what makes it really compelling is that he had no belief in any of this. He actually was anti-woo-woo. He thought all and he was from California, so there's a lot of that out there. It's not like he, you know. So he was like, okay, I don't know what the heck's going on, but when he actually was attuned, he calls it a Jewish gypsy lady on Venice Beach, okay, who was reading tarot cards. This is his story. And he says that when he went to this woman for a $10 reading while he was just goofing off for the afternoon with his assistant, she read him and said, I have special work that I want to share with you. And he went through with this, which it ended up being, I think what's commonly known as like an axiotonal alignment. And this activated something in him where his patience started to heal and he was like, I don't know what's happening. So when people look for it and they're like in their ego about it, and then they they build this empire and they charge you money to do all this stuff. Like, there's there's a whole thing there that tells me it's a business, it's not an authentic thing. But his was the complete opposite. And his reaction was, I gotta go to the scientific community because this is something, and these people are having legitimate healings, like scans are coming back with things that were there that are not there. So even with all that, I was still, you know, a little skeptical, but I had this feeling like this was something bigger. So I'm sitting there and he's up there doing his thing and he's sarcastic as anything. He's really actually very entertaining. And it's time to get on the tables. This big giant room in the convention center. All the massage tables are all lined up. And of course, it's like kindergarten when it's time to go play dodgeball, they all run for the balls, right? So everyone's on the table. I couldn't even get out of my seat. I'm like, well, I don't know what the heck's gonna happen here because I'm gonna have to be the practitioner first and I don't know what I'm doing. And he says there's no technique. My head was just like so. And he has people walking around, assistants. It's like, okay, you start here, just put your hands like this and just feel is very low pressure. He doesn't, you don't make it anything, and you disengage from your whole thought process to step into it. And as we're as I'm feeling it, I'm like, okay, I feel it. And I see the person having what they call they're kind of reactions, but he calls them registers. What happens is the the way that this energy affects your nervous system, you have involuntary muscle movements. And the crazy thing about it is certain muscles, and I know this from being a massage therapist, you probably know this too. Certain muscles only move in groups, like you can't isolate one of your smile muscles and make it move by itself like you smile in a group of muscles, but that's one or two or random muscles were were just firing. Like when you have a twitch. And I'm like, okay. And then the guy walks by me and he's like, he's like, Oh, wow, very, very good. Okay, good. Oh, this is good, you're doing good. And I'm like, I'm not doing anything. So the the lady gets off the table and she goes, Oh, thank you so much. That was incredible. And I'm like, I didn't do anything. I don't know what's happening. And I'm looking around the room, and I mean, everybody's having an effect, and these none of these people know what they're doing. How are we doing this? So now it's my turn to get on the table. And I'm like, I laid on the table, and I almost said out loud as I looked up at the ceiling, Well, I hope you're happy because you just flushed blah, blah, blah, amount of money down the door. It's fine. Okay. So I get on the table, and I had the most outrageous experience that I've ever had in my entire life, completely out of my dream. And I stuck. I actually couldn't breathe. And he told people, sometimes it's gonna feel like you can't, but you you are breathing in because otherwise you wouldn't be thinking I can't breathe. He's like, but there's this feeling you're gonna get, don't let it scare you. It's a common register. I felt like I couldn't breathe. I felt my eyes doing this rapid eye movement that I was not in control of. I felt my foot, my my finger, everything was just starting to do these things. But the most incredible part of it was I felt my entire body feeling like I was on a luge being propelled forward towards my feet. And I was like, and then I felt like the whole table, you know, when you take off in a plane and it's like till like you get in the air. That's what it felt like. And I was like, oh my god, oh my god. But I don't want to open my eyes because if I open my eyes, I'm even more scared to open my eyes. Although with the flutters, there was like a light right over my eyes, and I'm like, you know, still in my head, rationalizing it. No, there must be a light on the ceiling. I must be underneath the light, everything. And then I heard someone walk by and go, Wow, that's really wild. And I was like, What is he looking at? What's going on? And being in that state, I couldn't, you couldn't stop it. It was just happening to you. All of a sudden, I hear him say, Okay, it's you know, it's time for you know to stop and we're gonna take a break. By the time I with my eyes, the dude that was working on me was long gone, you know. And as a massage therapist, you don't do that, you don't just be like, leave the person on table abandoned. So I couldn't even ask him who what he saw, what he did. I went into the bathroom stall by myself with my clothes on. I didn't take anything off. I wasn't doing my business. I just needed a place to be where no one could see me going, what just happened? Something just happened, and I didn't believe it. Still, I'm really bad. I mean, once I tell you something, you don't know I've already been through what you're gonna ask me and like 10 or 12 more things before I believed it. So you can actually trust me. But I went back out there and he tried to explain some more of it to us, but which you know, how do you explain that which has no explanation? It's an it's a frequency. So as we're doing this, he says, I need to ask the audience a question. I want you all to be really honest with me because everyone had had their turn getting one maybe 15, 20 minute session. How many of you have injuries that have healed this over this past day and a half? Because it was like the three-day weekend. And a lot of people started raising their hands. And he goes, Okay, now I'm gonna ask you as a follow-up to that. He goes, How many of you have had injuries that are more than 10 years old that have healed or you've had an effect? Now, I hadn't thought about this, but I had back surgery when I was 23 years old.

SPEAKER_05 30:09

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

I had a slip disc and my back was very unstable no matter what I did. I and no exercise didn't result in some kind of injury because my disc slipped out to the side and it was hanging out of my spine like a pancake. So they cut off what was sticking out, they didn't put anything else in there, wasn't they weren't doing like cement and the rest of that stuff yet. There must have been enough that they were comfortable and I was young enough that I was gonna be okay. But I could move the wrong way in a week. I didn't, I'd be done for a week. Like I'd have to limp for a week until it decided to, you know, fix itself or unspasm. And I remember I sat while we were doing distance healing, that's when my healing happened. We were instructed to move further and further and further away from the person on the table. As I was doing that and feeling the frequencies, I felt under my feet what I felt on the table. And I was like, what is that? We're we're in a convention center. Maybe there's something else going on. Is there a motor under the floor? What is happening? So, like the floor feels like this to me. And I look around and no one's reacting to anything. And I'm like, okay, okay. Now, because he told us, you know, like you want to really use your body, you don't just kind of stand there and go like this. I kind of squatted in a little bit, you know, I'm doing the thing. All of a sudden I felt something go up my back like a zipper, and it was like broop. I panicked because that usually means you're not gonna be able to walk now, or you're not gonna be able to sit down. I'm like, uh-oh, uh-oh. I don't know what happened, but something happened. And I very carefully went back to my seat after that. And it seemed like I was okay. Now remember, I was in Rhode Island by myself, too. Who was I gonna call if I got stuck and couldn't get out of bed? So I just try to calm myself down. And once he recalled, when I he started asking that question, I realized that I had had my back surgery and it was more than 10 years old or about 10 years old, and that since that happened, I hadn't felt any twinges, not just the fact that it didn't spasm, but the fact that it actually felt very stable. And I was like, oh my God, I think I had a healing. And then, you know, the first thing when something like that happens is you're terrified to say it out loud because you're afraid you're gonna jinx it or you think it wasn't real. But ever since that day, I never had that instability in my back again.

SPEAKER_04 32:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Wow. So I came back from the seminar ready to like share this. My Reiki teacher was pissed at me. That's the first thing I did was I told my Reiki teacher, she's like, Well, I don't care for him. I've read some of his stuff and I don't care for him. And I'm like, I know why you don't care for him, is because, like I told you, he's very entertaining. He got up there and he was like, I hope all of you that do all these different kinds of healings are ready to let them all go because they're just training wheels, to which she took complete offense. Now, if you listen to the next part of it, you don't get offended because he explains why he's calling them that. If you have a glass, okay, or a can, and the can is this much full, and I have the same one, but mine is this much full. We both have this much. Yes. The frequencies when he didn't understand them, he had tested at Arizona State with Gary, can't think of it, Schwartz. Yes. The experiments and the clinical trials that they did showed like a whole bunch of different people doing different modalities. Every single one of them had an effect. The frequency that was measured in those different modalities were all contained in reconnective healing, they were part of it already, but reconnective healing pushed it up further. So it wasn't a pissing contest, but I guess when when your ego identity is around a specific modality and someone comes around that says you get mad, she stopped talking to me.

SPEAKER_05 34:09

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

And I was like, Well, you were just done.

SPEAKER_05 34:12

You were done. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

What am I gonna do? You know, you give someone a reading and you tell them something and they're mad, now they're not your friend. And she got really mad. And I'll tell you what really pushed it over the edge is as I started to work on my clients with that instead of with Reiki and just say, Look, I don't know if you guys are into this, it's very not as well known, but just want to give it a try. Are you open to it? If you say yes, then I do it. I started to have these other kinds of experiences where I would see color, where I used to see it with Reiki with my eyes closed. I was seeing it with my eyes open. And I'm like, okay, this did something. This did something else besides my help my back. And I started to ask her some questions because that's what you do. It's a teacher. And she's like, Well, if you're doing that and I'm the teacher and you're the student, why are you doing it and I'm not? And I was like, So, number one, I didn't know that you didn't do that because I assumed that I was moving into your space, but now I know that you're mad because Wow. So I just, and you know what? I'm like a baby doe in the woods. Like, I don't think to myself, hey, you're about to piss somebody off before I say something. I just go in there and I'm like, so listen, I saw this thing and I don't know what it is. Do you know what it is? And they look at me like, yeah, I'm gonna have to squish you. You're you're gonna need to be stamped out. I did not try to one-up her. I wasn't trying, and I think she thought that I didn't think Reiki was valuable enough, so I needed to do something else, and that wasn't the case either. I was guided and I follow my guidance. And it's been, I took that in 2008, so it's 2026. It's a long time that I've had that. The thing with the reconnective healing frequency is, and Eric said this in the class, he said, you never have to worry about coming back for more levels. That was another one of his beefs with all these other systems. It's like, oh, now it's like this, now it's quantum, now it's that, and you constantly have to keep going back. He's like, you don't have to come back with this. He said, What happens is once everyone isn't trained with this frequency, if for some reason more of it comes to the earth, because this was like a it's not meant to be for one person, it's meant to be for all of us. Everyone will get it at the same time. It's like an it's like um when you daisy chain a bunch of lights or something like that. Like you click it and everyone lights up the next the next level. So I thought to myself, this is a pretty bad business model, but it's still pretty cool. It's still cool. And that's kind of how that went. Now, reconnective healing happens on a level that isn't you can't predict because you don't direct it. So, like if you come to me and your arm hurts, I'm not supposed to even know your arm hurts. And if I do know that, it'll actually mess with me because then I will think to myself, let me put my hands over her arm and try to heal her arm. The whole principle behind it is that we come from oneness, and when we recognize this frequency, because really it's there, you just have to go, oh, and interact with it. You don't have to know anything, you don't have to do anything, you just have to step into it, and that's the process. And to a lot of people, to hand over a couple hundred bucks, that's not good enough as a delivery of what you're paying for. So yeah. Make it a little more theatrical, and you'll get so much more money. That's the other thing. And then I had a bunch of people that I had a group of people that were like little psychic, a little psychic meetup group, and some of them came sniffing around just to have a session to see what it was and how we compared to theirs. Like they couldn't even be curious and open and and celebrate it with me. They had to be that way, and that's when I started realizing like a lot of people see me as very naive, but what they're not understanding about what they're seeing is that it's it's not me being naive. I have a very childlike innocent quality to the way that I show up in the world, and to other people, that looks like naivety, that looks like weakness, um, makes me dumb. It doesn't make me dumb. I probably know more than you think I do, but I'm gonna let you think that so that I can see who you are. So keep going. Yeah, and that's kind of how I've had to manage it's not easy when I met Sue. She was one of the first people that I met in a really long time. Because like I said, Salem is I'm I'm a my technically I'm a minister for a Salem church. Salem has a whole bunch of drama too. And Salem, Massachusetts? Oh yeah. I love Salem, that was fun time for me. Oh yeah, it's oh it was, and it is, but it's changed a lot. But has it like every group I've been in, there have been authentic people, but a lot of the authentic people, they still human, so they bring but in in Florida, I found just a bunch of people who were like kindergarten level of spirituality, trying to convince me that they needed to teach me what they knew, and I was like, Oh, I gotta get the hell out of here. When I met Sue, I was like, she was the only person. First of all, she's humble, she doesn't come at you like, look at how great I am. And that that's a selling point for me. Um, but you know, she has a very soft, gentle energy that it's not that it asks permission to enter your field when you do like work with her, but it's like she's she's just so respectful and she's respectful of the other worlds, and the way that she does her work is with the same kind of quality that I feel like I have in that in terms of that innocence, but I don't know what this is. Show me what this is, and I don't see that in other people, I don't see that in like people that are supposed to be big renowned, world-renowned people. They they walk in so cocky, they want to tell you who you are, and I can't be in that energy. So the people that I find that are like that, they're like precious jewels to me that I can't let go of. I can't. That's like you're gonna stay over here and whatever happens, you're with me, right? Because I can't be without someone who has that quality anymore. It's so I've been alienated and isolated, as I told you guys, like from different teachers and stuff like that, that it's hard. And then when I had a reading with Sue a long time ago, I think it was after I met you and we did a first reading, and she was able to see things much further out than anyone else that I had had a reading from. Things that I didn't talk about, things that I never mentioned. But she was like, Oh, so you have this, this, and this. And I'm like, Oh, oh my God. It had been like 20 years since I had to fess up that something was real, and I was like, shit, she said it just nailed it. So I was like, okay, and that's how I knew she was a keeper. That's so sweet. It's true. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

Absolutely true.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

In my opinion, and I and I think we agree on this. This is one of the big points that we agree on. It's not a competition. It is absolutely not a competition. Right. We have this ability, we were born with this ability, and I give what I get. If you don't want to listen to it, that's fine. If you get angry about it, that's fine. Maybe that's something you need to look at and um process a little bit. But I'm not in competition with anyone, you're not in competition with anyone, and neither are you, Annalisa or Terry. It's what we do, and I work by word of mouth.

SPEAKER_05 41:56

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

And people come that uh, you know, I kind of feel that they are the ones that need to hear what I have to say. And it's not what I have to say, it's what people in spirit have to say, whether it's a deceased loved one or it's higher beings that we call ETs, right, or uh guides or anything like that. It's not my information. I'm just that person that delivers it.

SPEAKER_05 42:28

A messenger. I'm a telephone. Sometimes I'm an iPhone, sometimes I'm a flip phone. It just depends on what you like or what you need to um, you know, ice cream is good, but I don't like all flavors.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

Yeah, it's never about who I am or uh uh and all three of you are are like that too. It's not who we are, it's not our ego getting in the way. You have to get yourself out of the way it in every aspect. You have to step aside and get out of the way and allow this information to come through.

SPEAKER_05 43:08

And that's not easy because we're still gonna have our own filters, we're still gonna have our own beliefs and our own, you know, set in certain ways that hopefully we're open enough to look and go, maybe that wasn't the best way to go about it. But it's still, I mean, a friend of mine gave me, and she's not a psychic, but she gave me this great analogy about coffee filters. If the coffee filter is dirty, the reading, the the the coffee is going to have the remnants of whatever that was already in there. Yeah. But if you clean out the coffee filter, you're gonna have a brand new fresh cup of coffee. And that for some reason that stuck with me for years. I was like, that's brilliant. Because of our personalities, of our experiences, we are gonna bring forth stuff that we've held on to for better or for worse in readings. So it's really important that we know that in order to kind of make sure it doesn't bleep. into too much of of how we read.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:02

It is hard.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

I don't know about you guys, but I I'm I'm always self-checking. You know, always.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

Yeah. Nicole, I have a question. Are you able to do this reconnective healing virtually? Like distance wise?

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Yep. The the way that the research came back is that it actually grows in strength with distance, which every other modality is the opposite of.

SPEAKER_05 44:30

That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

So the fact that I had my healing while I was moving further away from the person I was interacting with, it's what blew my mind. But the catchphrase that he was using at the time and that's still true, it's like when you don't actually heal the person, you're you're a receptive yourself. So the like the book itself says reconnective read the reconnection heal others, heal yourself or heal yourself, heal others. You're part of the equation. So by virtue of the fact that I was stepping into that frequency and working with someone else I was also receiving. I wasn't trying to and I wasn't focused on it. And see this is where it gets muddy and and this is why I was a little bit I'm always a little hesitant to talk about reconnective healing because it it flies in the face of a lot of other principles and beliefs that other systems carry. Intent is a big buzzword in the metaphysical world and it does have a place but it doesn't have a place in this. And you're very conditioned to being the person who's the sender or focusing in intention it will mess with your results because it'll interfere. In the book he talked about when he was unsure of what he was doing going to the woo-woo community and saying I don't know what I'm doing. Maybe you guys do you all know about this stuff. I don't person was on the table and he watched everyone do whatever I don't know what modality it was now but it was like some kind of reiki or thing or something like that. And they were working on the person. Now he was like well can I show you guys what's happening and maybe you can explain to me what it is doing like me doe I don't know what's going on. He started to do it and they all started to watch the registers and they were like oh my God this is crazy. And he kept doing it and he was just in it but then all of a sudden he noticed they started to diminish things started to stop and he's like what's going on this is not hey hello what's going on and then he looked around the room and people started to try to help him with their modality oh and that interfered with with the frequency. You don't hear any of the programming now you don't have so that part of it is difficult for some people that are really like seasoned in other kinds of systems to get over to step into that. But once you realize that you're not losing anything a lot of people think that oh I trained for years doing these things you're not losing any of that. That got you where you are now maybe you wouldn't even have considered this you're going to have that plus some you don't want that you don't want that for the people that are coming to you who need help or want to try something and the changes that you see are not always physical. A lot of what people go through are very life oriented changes. I've had people come to me who are and their lives are a wreck and not being judgmental their lives are just a wreck. It's an observation job, money, suppose leaving them kids don't talk to them like they're in it and they're like help me Nicole I don't know what the hell is going on I don't know how to stop it. And I just lay on the table I don't know what's going to happen. But you and me together are just going to be in this space for a little while just trust and if something if you feel something let yourself feel it don't stop yourself from feeling it if your finger starts going like this don't you start stiffening up let it go and they're so broke and I hate to say this this way but it's true they're so broken they don't have any resistance left and sometimes that's where these things have to come in. So you have to be at that point so you don't resist anything. And I've watched people within six months to a year with with lives like that reconnect with somebody from high school and all of a sudden they're getting married. Their divorce is over they're getting married all of a sudden relationship people are reacting differently to them they don't know why this person was always mean to me I walked in the room and they were offering me to go to lunch with them. What the hell happened? You can't explain it because it doesn't happen on that level the the physical logical level and what it really comes down to is if you cannot trust that there is a higher power you will always be limited by what your human is has available to it. Human is a temporary condition it's a limiting condition. It's not the entirety of what what we have but while you're in this form there are many things you will not be able to do however you're not disconnected and if you open up and allow you can be affected and you can be brought back into a more full state of coherence within your energy and that's what it really is. So I say stuff like that and it's like I don't want to throw money down for that you just told me you were going to do nothing yes right it's hard to explain to people that don't get like through experience that it's real like that it can happen. So he does a lot of little like uh demonstrations where he'll have somebody hold out their hand um and he'll put his hands around them and you can feel it the sensations are always different. People have smells that are not there but they smell a smell so it's really important you don't wear any perfume. You don't want to do anything that's going to affect a sense because you want it to be authentic. So no perfume no music because some people will hear music no outside interference sometimes it feels like pressure sometimes it feels like a thud sometimes it feels like wind or static. There's so many sensations that can be there. And I had this is crazy you guys I got to tell you this because I it still blows my mind one time I was working on this woman who I was friends with but I didn't realize that she had a like a membership at the clinic I worked at so I'm doing her massage and I didn't tell her like any of this stuff. She doesn't know anything. So she's on the table she's face up and I'm working on her neck you know and her head but she starts to talk to me so Italian once again I started talking to her hands all of a sudden she goes my God what was that I was like what do you mean what was that? What was that? What did you see? Because you know I can't I don't you might have seen a lot of things she goes you don't see that there's like little little beams of light coming out of your fingers I'm like oh my god you saw that wow yeah she goes did you and I was like well I see it all the time but other people don't she's like well what is that and I'm like well now we're gonna have to have a discussion do you have a couple of hours this is not gonna be a one shot deal but yeah and she's also someone that saw people in my house like um non-physical beings in my house which nobody ever saw either except my husband once admitted oh I just saw and I was like oh yeah now you saw it but you know she was walk she was sitting with me on my couch and we're just talking and these things happen to me all the time so I don't say anything and she's like what was that what was that did you see that I was like what do you mean I was like she goes you just see this look like somebody walked right by us and I was like man I'm gonna need to have a lot of talks with you because you're you're way more capable and you have a lot of ability and she was one of those people who came from a slightly religious background she worked with the Mennonites oh wow so it's like she worked for them she wasn't one of them but that stuff is you know the environment you soak it in so she was like holding herself back from some abilities that she had she ended up being a trance medium oh my god of all things that's incredible so like everything as soon as I started allowing and reconnective healing helped me with this too up until that point I was still kind of like weighing and measuring and being human and once I started realizing I didn't have to run everything through my human because you know you don't run your household through your toddler you know that's when I realized like you're not giving up you're not surrendering to a lesser once you open up you're being taken care of you're being shown things like how can you say no to that and I started to like everything just started coming together. But that girl when I was in Texas this is when when it happened we were talking and she started to tell me sometimes I feel like something's wanting to jump inside me and you don't say that to normal people right so she's like I'm like oh okay yeah and and I I know what you're saying it doesn't happen to me but I know somebody that that happens to I said I used to go to this paranormal investigator group was like they met at one of the local centers and they used to have meetups but there's a woman in there and she's a trans medium and her name's Christine I'm like I haven't seen her since the group disbanded but you know I bet I can find her maybe I can get her info somewhere that from the group so then I'm like let's let's go to Denny's I don't need it Denny's why was I even going to Denny's we go to Denny's as we get out of the car Christine is walking up the sidewalk to go into the Denny's and I'm like you don't have to do you just have to be and that's what the reconnective healing really that's where that really changed my entire life yes it helped my back but but it did so much more for me.

SPEAKER_05 53:40

That's super inspiring.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

Oh my god I know it really is I'm like Christine you don't know me you met me like four times I just gotta tell you something so see this chick over here she this is you know I started doing this thing and she helped her I couldn't have helped her with that so I heard somebody talking on could be Facebook YouTube the other day and they were saying that when we get triggered by something that someone else does or says that that is not actually a memory it is actually part of your nervous system that hasn't completed what happened when the original trauma first happened so what I'm hearing is that the reconnective therapy can address that that it's a lot physical as well as emotional and mental yes healing that happens on all levels.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

You don't get to decide what happens you know like sometimes somebody might come in because they specifically have an issue and another thing will get healed because the thing the taller order is always what's addressed I think is what people have found. But if you find that you have a pain and it's tied to an emotion and you're trying to heal the pain in your body the emotion will never be addressed. So by virtue of the fact that you have an intention and that you're trying to direct it you're limiting the scope of what's the real healing and the real cause. So if you look at it that way it always comes back to allowing and trusting it and I've never been sorry it's I've never been like well I should have just done it myself. It's not like with people you know like you trust your husband to like do something in the kitchen and you're like yeah I knew I shouldn't have let him do that. I should have just done it myself. It's not that way with this.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

It's the only thing I can say it's not that way with now the big thing about mediumship is to trust yourself trust your soul and allow yourself to be open. Yes you're not going to you lose your identity you're going to remain the person that you are you may go through the natural changes of a personality and what your belief systems are beliefs come and go but to allow yourself to be and trust and not have any trepidation at all and one of the biggest things is to get rid of your fear. Yeah that's the number one thing people need to address is their fear their fear of having some unknown thing some unknown energy coming to them and not being afraid of it. Yeah because energy shows up in all kinds of different ways energy even has a smell to it if you're sensitive enough.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

Interesting that thing that happened to me last night actually I was watching a YouTube video on oh gosh what was it? It it had to do with ETs because that's my thing right so they were talking about how Christianity like Jesus and um Mary Magdalene has a lot to do with ET stuff. And I had never really ventured into that before it was fascinating. It was an absolute fascinating interview and as he's talking about this I started feeling like I was going to pass out. I felt this energy just flowing through my body and my first gut reaction is to get scared and shake it off but I'm like no I'm feeling this for a reason I'm just gonna let it go I'm just I'm gonna let it flow through me and see what happens. And I literally felt like I was gonna like I was going to pass out but I I sat there and I just allowed it to do what it was going to do. And it just flowed and flowed and flowed and flowed. And it was a really uh calming energy I don't know what it meant exactly but the feeling that I got from it was that it was confirming this knowing that I've always had in my mind I was born and raised a Catholic and I've always been attached to the Catholic Church even though I call myself a recovering Catholic these days but it was ingrained in me and and I even had a past life as a nun before and I've always felt a really strong connection to the Catholic Church. Like every time I drive down the street and I see one it's like I want to go in and and and because of all of my ET stuff I think that was telling me that what you're hearing is something you need to hear because that's gonna connect that piece that you've always felt in your soul and it was it was really really cool. Yeah that that that really that really connected a piece of the of a puzzle for me. So that was that was really cool.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

I gotta ask you have you ever seen the TV show evil? Yes yes okay no oh you have to see I'll find a clip if I can there's a character in the the show she's a nun oh it's Andrea Martin I love her she is awesome right she is so cool and there's close and demons yeah yeah there's like all the stuff going on she sees demons and I mean they blend a lot of stuff that we both you know know growing up they were like oh no you don't do that the priest does that blah blah blah whatever the nuns always knew better and I have a mess there's a part at the end of the episode of one it's either the the last episode or the one right before it where she's sitting in the church with the the lead character who's a priest and he's asking her hard questions that we all have why is this allowed? Why does this happen blah blah blah and she says and I believe she's way more in tune too as a person because the way this came through I believe it wasn't acting she said God allows the church to fail because the church is made up of it's flawed it's made up of men. So you know one of the things we forget just like what we're talking about here we're human right now we're looking through the eyes of a human right now limited limited limited so you have to stop putting so much pressure on your human to know everything. You have to remember your you're you're a speck in a giant system being allowed to see just that tiny facet for now. Yep and you're not meant to throw it away you came from there to cut to to get into that perspective. So sit in it just sit in it. Yeah and it's not that what they taught you was wrong it's that they were sitting sifting through their tiny little lens when they told you so I know some of it's malicious because some people are just malicious people but there's also that aspect that you have to remember. So I I get what you're saying and I think what you experienced was the other part of you that knows more than your human brain knows.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

And since you're allowing it you're experiencing it in your body it's yeah the uh the past life when I was a nun I was very psychic I had these powerful psychic abilities when I was a nun and that was something that I had to keep to myself because of the time right so yeah it was fascinating. So I I know there's something very powerful there that I need to explore more.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:05

Nicole yeah I have a question for you. Okay do pearls come up a lot for you no because the woman that you read in in your her her name the the Chinese woman whose name was Pearl yeah and you learn reconnective healing from Dr.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Pearl Pearl yeah I know I was thinking about that too Pearl connection yeah no and you know what's really funny I'm gonna tell you guys this I wouldn't normally even disclose this but at that time I was the book I was reading I didn't want to read and it was a Dorian virtue book and I had never had a liking for her. I was like something's wrong with her I don't know what it is something's wrong with her and they're like read her damn book and I'm like fine I'll read her book you don't have to believe everything she says but read the book and I'm like right in the book she was talking about her grandmother grandma Pearl and that there it is number three three times was grandma Pearl and I'm like they needed me to read this book so that the timing was right when this lady showed up and I had the opportunity that they could go hey remember in your little Rolodex brain when you saw those words ask her if her grandmother's name is Pearl. I love it. You just gotta let it like the thing is so like like I said it before I grew up in a Catholic Italian household when you're a girl in a Catholic Italian household everyone's telling you what to do. Yes and so you either go one of two ways with that you either let them do it and and they generally do know better so you it's not really that painful in the end or you go in the opposite direction and I have been rebelling for so long that I'm like I'm not doing what you told me no what are you telling me I had to go through that I treated spirit like my mother for a little while being a teenager. Who do you think you are yeah what do you think about me I brought you into this world I can teach you I love that sounds even better in Italian truth I can't tell you how many times I heard that when I was growing up I come from a Hispanic family so I come from both Italian and Hispanic oh my see my my brother married a girl whose family's from Mexico so now I have Mexican Italian niece and nephew they're either going to be like complete tornadoes or what like I don't know how that fire is going to go. I love it I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

They'll be able to cook that's for sure good food on both sides trust me a taco pizza that sounds yummy that actually does sound good you could do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:32

Both my grandmothers are spinning in their graves right now yeah do you use aromatherapy essential oils in your massage and reconnective I did when I I'm actually not a massage therapist anymore because my license didn't transfer so I kind of I gave it up but I still I still do it for people that I know who you know don't take money for and all that stuff it's not a business. But I started that when I was in Texas I met that was like a hybrid between my little psychic friend group and my massage therapy stuff. I already was using a few oils on people and it was helping me because I noticed that if I put a really high quality therapeutic like grade oil on someone while I was working on them their muscles would it would actually help me. It would be like oh the muscles responding faster so if I was trying to get a knot out in your neck I could get it out without too much pressure. It's a lot of like blood vessels and nerves in your neck so it was like a tool for me. But then one night I was going to my little psychic friend group that's a whole other side tangent. That was like it was like having a like a league of um do you guys remember like the the the League of Doom and then there was like the superheroes like they had their little it kind of reminded me of that it was like we had our own little group of people and they all had their own little talents and I walk into this lady's house and I'm I'm walking by this table and I see this I see this bottle and I'm like what is that I picked it up and I looked at it and I was like I don't know what this is I'm like but I need this what is this can I buy this I had and that's when I was starting to have like complete trust in my my guidance. Come to find out later the blend is a young living blend called White Angelica. It doesn't have Angelica in it but the blend that's in there was specifically formulated by Gary Young as an oil to use to keep your aura protected for people who do healing work. They're gonna sell you the oil and tell you it's a blend and tell you the marketing stuff they're allowed to say but it was purposefully put together to protect people who do healing work so that their energy wasn't messed with too bad. Since I was doing massage I was always in contact with people's energy even if it was body work. And that's when I started to get into that and I had to listen to my guidance on that one too because they have blends that you know the whole FDA thing about how you're not supposed to say something does something. Like I can't tell you, like, oh, mint, if you put mint on your whatever cut, it'll heal. Like, I can't tell you that without getting sued somewhere. Some of the blends you have to guess by the names they gave them. And I remember there was one blend that was like kind of expensive. My eye kept going back to it. I'm like, I don't want, I don't want that. Why do I need that? The blend was called Trauma Life. And I'm like, sounds kind of like dark, right? They're like, Yeah, but you need that oil. And I'm like, but I don't. Both they're like, you do. Okay, fine. So I buy the oil. And then on my shelf came that magical moment. I had somebody on my table, and it was actually somebody who was supposed to be kind of more of a friend than a client. In my mind, I saw the label and I was like, Oh, yeah, that's on the shelf. You need to use this on this person. And something changed in her when I I couldn't tell you what it was. Just kind of like reconnected feeling. I stepped into it. I put only a couple of drops because it was a little pungent, and I didn't want her to ask me, What are you putting on me? And I was like, Oh, it's trauma life. Like, what are you thinking of me? So I was like, do-doo, do. But something changed in her after that. So I started to realize that it's not just mind, body, it's energy is all those things. Your mind's made of energy, your body's made of energy. They're just in different states. They connect and interconnect in different ways. And rather than reclict like using my whole life to try to get the limited amount of information that science will be able to obtain, it's better for me to just yield to that place. And the purity of the oils that they have is the reason why I get it from them. Because I had gotten oils from other places. And at one time I tried an oil because something was out of stock, and I took it from another place, and I was this isn't doing anything. Like it was like an inert substance. And I'm like, why is it not doing anything? Isn't this that? And that's when I had to educate it myself about I mean, is even anything we have that there's more than one version of the same? No. The way that Young Living has, they have their own farms and they have the distilleries set up on the farms. So there's no carding things from here to there, many people handling all that stuff. That's a big thing in the processing. But the way that it's distilled is intentionally to preserve the plant compounds. Because when you do perfumery, like if your desired outcome is I want this to smell great, you're not concerned about anything else. So you do it fast and you do it with a lot of heat, and you so what they're getting is maximizing scent, but it sacrifices the compounds. Well, what Gary Young was essentially trying to do was allow people to have plant medicine in their hands without calling it that, because you know the limitations that go with it, and putting marketing it as just it's just an essential oil. But the thing is, is it has those compounds in it, and and I remember thinking to myself, when I open this up, I feel like there's life force energy in here, but I didn't feel that in the other stuff, and I'm like, I gotta go with what I know, and what I know is what they know, so I just kept going with it. Like today I'm using this is a blend called Red Cedar Bliss, and nobody I know knows about this one or likes this one, but I like it, and I get a lot of it because I don't want it to run out. This has produced more progress during dream time when I diffuse it than any other oil that I've tried. You can get sleepy from some of them, it depends on what you're trying to achieve, but this one has brought about a lot of changes in that, so I use it a lot for that reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:41

Yeah. I'd like to throw in a disclaimer at this point that we're not endorsing any particular company, nor are we being sponsored by any particular company. And this is just all personal information that Nicole is giving us.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:58

That's the history of all this stuff. Like you guys know, if you go through all these books that talk about herbal remedies and folk, whatever medicine, things that people had before we had any kind of modernization of anything. Yeah. You would, I mean, this is really funny. I had I used to work in a bank that had this little Romanian lady that worked with me. She used to have a real typewriter because she insisted on using a real typewriter. And I remember at the time, this is pre-all of the stuff we've been talking about today. Not only was my lower back starting to tweak out, but it was dominoing up to my neck. So now I had this crick where like I couldn't put my arm out certain positions or it started to hurt. And she was watching me fidget. And I'm like, oh boy. She was for a little person, she had a lot of personality. So she saw me one day and she's like, she goes, Come here, come here. And literally, this woman had to be four feet tall. She goes, Oh, give me your arm. And so she starts pseudo-chiropracticing my arm.

unknown 1:10:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:00

And I looked at her and I was like, She goes, Does it feel better? And I was like, A little bit. She goes, What do you think we did before we had all these things? We didn't have all this medicine, we didn't have these chiropractors, we didn't have all this. You had to do okay. Then she started going on a tirade about her husband who had passed away that she took care of. The point is made, thank you. It was another little cobblestone on that path that says, Don't you don't have to ask everybody else their opinion. Sometimes you know things, and if eventually you come across someone else who knows, and they just reiterate it to you, and then you realize, like, I can trust these other things.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

We've always had stuff available to us. The thing is, we're gonna lose it if we don't get smart about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:45

Yeah, it's so important that we pay attention to our instincts and our intuition and follow that. It may not make sense, but it can guide us in the right place.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:56

It has never steered me wrong, right? Yeah, it really hasn't. And as much as I kicked and fought and like, no, that doesn't make sense, and I shouldn't do that. It's never been wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Do you guys have any other questions for Nicole? We're out of time. I think we need a part two.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

And how can um people get a hold of you, Nicole? Yes. Well, I actually don't have a professional practice right now because I don't have space for it. But I do have my website, which I need to get better about updating, which is confessionsofespirit messenger.com. You can find me under the same name on TikTok and Facebook and Instagram. And I will put this disclaimer out there. A lot of people put everything out on their social media. I do not. So you might look and not be very impressed by some of the content or lack thereof. However, when you come to me, whatever we do, no one else is gonna know about what we talk about, what you want done or not done, is between you and I. So if you have the confidence enough to be able to say that you can trust me because based on what you've seen today, then you are welcome to hit me up and we can find a way to get you what you need. But I don't put out, I do I have all these services, I do all this.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:08

A little bit of that is there, but just so you know, you go you're a very private and conscientious and ethical person.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

Thank you. Yeah, I feel that too. High praise, yeah. This has been fascinating and fun. Yes, fascinating and fun. I learned a lot today. Will you come back?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

Yeah, will you come back? You guys are fun. You like listening to my crazy stories.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:35

The funny thing is, they don't sound so crazy to us.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:38

No, no, not at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:42

I was sitting there going, Yep, I remember that. Yep, that happened.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:47

All right, everyone. Thanks, Nicole. Thank you, Nicole. This has been great. It's really been awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:54

Thank you. I appreciate you guys. Yeah, thank you for being such an ethical practitioner. That is so rare to find these days, and I really appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:03

Maybe next time we can talk about the spiritual cesspool.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:08

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:12

As a metaphysician. As an ET experiencer. As an ET experiencer.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:21

The Game of Thrones, that's what it is. The list of Mother Dragons.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:25

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