Channeling Einstein & Conflict Revolution® with Barbara With

Barbara With is an international peace activist, award-winning author, performer, composer, psychic channel, speaker, and teacher whose work has inspired audiences around the world. As the co-founder of Conflict REVOLUTION®, she has developed a unique approach to resolving inner conflict and transforming personal and collective challenges into opportunities for growth and understanding.

While the idea that lasting peace begins within has been a central teaching of philosophers, spiritual leaders, and wisdom traditions for centuries—Barbara’s work offers a practical and innovative framework for applying these timeless principles to modern life. Drawing from decades of experience in spirituality, consciousness studies, and conflict resolution, she is perhaps best known for her work channeling Albert Einstein, whose insights helped shape her perspective on personal responsibility, inner transformation, and global peace.

Through her books, workshops, speaking engagements, and media appearances, Barbara encourages individuals to recognize that the conflicts we see in the world often mirror conflicts within ourselves, and that meaningful change begins with self-awareness. Today, Barbara joins us to share her remarkable journey, the insights she has received through her channeling work, and how Conflict REVOLUTION® can help people navigate life’s challenges with greater awareness, compassion, responsibility, and purpose.

* The views and opinions expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0. I'm Susanna Maseri, Psychic Medium and author of Living Beyond Death. My co-hosts are Psychic Medium Annalise Sebastiani and ET experiencer Terry Scalia. We focus on grounded, honest conversations about consciousness, mediumship, channeling, ET's psychology, and modern spiritual culture. Thank you for joining us. Hello, everyone. I'm so excited to welcome Barbara With to the show today. Barbara is an international peace activist, award-winning author, performer and composer, psychic channel, speaker, teacher, and co-founder of Conflict Revolution, a unique approach to resolving inner conflicts based on her work channeling Albert Einstein. Welcome, Barbara. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Hi, nice to meet you all. It's good to meet you too. Thank you so much for being here. My first question, right out of the gate, is what was it like going to your first psychic?

SPEAKER_06 1:06

It was completely mind-blowing, and partly because I wasn't seeking it. My friend Mike in high school said, You got to come see what my mom does. And I just I wasn't looking for a psychic. And it's like, what does your mom do? I can't explain it. You have to come. So she was a I think more of a trance channel in that she didn't remember what was said, and she said she always felt like she was out in outer space floating around. But she'd have a big picture of Jesus and she'd light a candle. And the first time, what blew me away was that it's as if she'd been in my head. She had been in my life. And there was predictive stuff, certainly about my music, but a lot of it was just about self-love. How for me as a child of such great trauma in my upbringing and on my way to because I did go out on the road as a rock singer into a life that could be potentially threatening to me, even though I, you know, I just had like I'd been writing music since I was 12 and I wanted to be a rock star. So of course, my questions were, Am I gonna be a rock star? And she guided me into the first steps, maybe ever, that I had self self-love. Of course, it took me decades to figure out what that actually meant, but it it was profoundly impacting, and little did I know it was the first step into a direction that has become a mission in life.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Did you have a lot of psychic abilities as you were growing up, uh, dreams or out-of-body experiences or anything that kind of spurred you on?

SPEAKER_06 2:51

No, it for me it was music. I started writing when I was 12. And so the process, and I always described it this way of going into the nothing and listening, and I'd hear four bars of a song, you know, a melody and some words, and I'd squeeze it out like a toothpaste tube, and I'd listen some more. And I never had pre-like, I'm gonna write a song about this. The songs were pre-written and they came out of me, and that really is what set me up for later on that and seeing Eunice for all the Mike's mom all those years for when I kind of started spontaneously automatic writing and channeling.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

Did the automatic writing come first then the speaking before the channeling? Or because I do automatic writing, and it to me it's almost the same, or very, very close to conscious channeling. And so when I do automatic writing, I do the same thing as I do in a reading uh or conscious channeling, is that I move out of the way and I'm I'm just like let the information flow, and it's being in that void, in that wonderful void of receiving information. So would you agree that they go hand in hand, the automatic writing and then moving into the channeling?

SPEAKER_06 4:12

I I don't think necessarily so. Okay. And for me, because I was writing a letter to my best friend at the time, telling her how bad it was that she was so judgmental. So I wasn't even, I wasn't even la hey, let's sit down and see if we can do this. It's just like suddenly the whole t tone and tenor of the letter shifted into this pretty high level information about yes, because when you make judgments, like a lens of an eye, you close down your perception, so you're only seeing a very small picture of what's actually going on. Now, that wasn't what I was gonna say to her, but that's what came out. That's it's like what? And so I now Eunice was an antenna. She didn't talk to dead people or angels or anything, she was just an antenna picking up the higher power. So that's what I felt like I was. And so when I said, Who are you? and they said sound. I love it, and I was fine with that because I'd been taught myself to play piano at five and started writing songs at twelve. That was a comfortable world for me. So, and then from there, there was a a lot of information that came out that was very similar to what Eunice things like you think that you failed because you didn't become this rock star. When in reality, you needed to have this lesson and that lesson and that lesson. So it was very psych like psychology psychic more than it was predictive, but they did predict that things were gonna move faster from then on, and there was gonna be a whole bunch of stuff that was about to happen that I had to be prepared for.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

I was like, I'm gonna be a rock star. That's what I thought, but uh kind of, but not really.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah, I totally understand that living with a musician, that it's music, especially. There's no way of describing it really, and the way that you can get into it and receive, you know, this flow. As with anyone with a talent, like an artist or someone who writes or is in athletics, there's always that zone, but it seems like music is something really, really deep.

SPEAKER_06 6:36

It's so completely throughout your whole body. That's that sound is vibration and frequency carrying messages. You know, some messages are actual words and lyrics, uh, some messages are brought about by the horn. It affects the whole entire body. And I used to say that playing music for five, six hours a night for several nights a week as a profession just kept my body constantly, constantly vibrating. So when I'm singing the songs that I channeled, what a miraculous thing is happening that I don't know about, even though I'm in a bar in the middle of Iowa where people are ignoring me and I'm thinking I failed. It's like, oh no. So yeah, it's very powerful medium that way.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

It is. Annalisa Terry, do you have a question? Well, I was just gonna say, we're all made up of sound and vibration. Everything, it's not just you know, humans, but everything is made up of sound and vibration. So it is who we are, it is our language.

SPEAKER_06 7:38

It's interesting to harness it. And God said, Let there be light. So sound comes first.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

What was the first thing? Uh, and then there was the word or something, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

So yeah. Sound first. I love that. Sound absolutely. So when did you write your first book and what was the first book about?

SPEAKER_06 8:00

The first book was Diaries of a Psychic Sorority, Talking with the Angels. It's the true story of how in 1993 I got this idea that I wanted to channel for groups. What would these voices of whatever say to a bunch of people? You know, I'd been listening, or not listening, but reading Jane Robertson, of course, was a big Edgar Casey fan. And I thought, nobody who came for private readings. So I started in 87, and this is 93, so five years of doing readings. No one ever stopped to say, Hey, what did this mean? And what do you think that means? And they would come, they'd have their reading, and they'd go. So I wanted to do these groups, and none of my regular clientele was interested, but God brought me Kim and Teresa and I. They came for private readings and they couldn't stop. They were we we laughed that they were stalking me from gig to gig because they'd come to hear me play, and then in the breaks, they'd be like, Well, what does this mean? What does this mean? And Kim had transcribed her reading and was, you know, quoting it, and I was all kinds like, wow. Groupies, serious, yeah, groupies. And then one day I thought, wait a minute, it's my group. Groupies, it's my group. And before I could do anything, they called me and asked me if I'd want to come to a little gathering at their house with the girls, with all the girls. And I said, Well, would you like me to channel? And they were like, Oh my god, we wanted to ask you, but we didn't want you to work, you know. It's like, no, no. And so that was how the psychic sorority began. And what happened was they asked the two of them. Now, Kim, and I don't mean this in any way derogatory of any side of the political spectrum, which I generally have nothing to do with, but it'll give you an idea, in 1993, she was a very uh Republican businesswoman, her pearls matched her jewelry, her shoes matched her purse, and she never would have gone to a psychic in a million years, except for a crisis drives us to do things. So when they asked, Who are you? I'm thinking, Oh, they're gonna tell the sound. It's like and they said, You can call us angels. And my head whipped around, it's like, What? Wait a minute, what does that mean? And we all talked about it, which I'm sure why they were the three of us at least, is to say that we didn't really know who it was, but what was happening to us was so amazing. So by the fruits of these labors, we were coming alive and starting to thrive and starting to put pieces together in our lives, you know, just regular, like how come my daughter's fighting with her father, and you know, what do I do with this? And and so the angels said we have this theory about if humans would resolve conflicts the way that our theory to go first go inside, that the byproduct would be world peace. And of course, you know, all the way down the line to peace in your family, peace in your community, peace. But first, and they needed some humans who had real conflicts to test their theory. And now bear in mind I know the I'd known these women only in one context for about five months. And I thought, okay, yeah, what? All right, well, let's do it then, you know. And so sure enough, we had our first fight and we scrambled a bit, but we pulled out the transcript of that particular session we had just done and applied the principle. If you're involved in the conflict, your part is within you. The root of what you're experiencing is within you, and so the revolution is back to self. And we had such a miraculous result from doing that, and that was where conflict revolution was born in that moment where we took that first transcript and figured it out, and then I went on to train it starting in 1999. But so all along the way, these angels said, um, keep a paper trail, write a book, write your diaries, write a documentary, all along the way, because people are gonna want to know what's going on. And so we published diaries in 1997, I think. Wow, and that was also the beginning of my foray into publishing and learning about publishing and becoming a publisher myself. So tell us about that on the way. Well, publishing as it's changed through the years, uh especially with the advent of the internet. Very much. In 97-98, they didn't really have print on demand yet, like they do now everywhere, Create Space and Ingram Spark and all these other online places you can just go and publish the book. But it was just about the cutting edge. And my agent who we got because we thought, should we self-publish or should we try to shop it to a label? So we'll self-publish and then we'll try to shop that to a major publisher. And so I had an agent. And we never did sell it, thank God, to anybody. And but now I knew how to publish a book. And that set me up for my next book, Party of Twelve, The Afterlife Interviews, which is where I met Einstein. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Yeah, I want to hear about Einstein. Yeah, let's dive into that. Let's dive into that.

SPEAKER_06 13:50

Okay, so we've just put out this book and my agent is shopping it, and she gets a message from a metaphysical tabloid in London. And for the life of me, I can't think of what the name was. I thought it was the sun, but I'm not really sure because it's 98. Atlantis. And they look what? Atlantis. No, it was short. It was either like the star or the sun, something like that. And um they were looking for an interview with Princess Di from beyond the grave on the one year anniversary of her death. And wondered if I could do it since I could talk to angels. And I was like, what? I mean, I just discovered that I could speak communicate with people who had died, and that was a kind of a big learning experience and other things, people with Alzheimer's and autistic people. I was having this, but how would that work? Because usually the people who had passed away would approach me like I would see them in my vision, and they would want me to get a message to their living relative. So how would I go find Diana? Why would she talk to me? But after much consideration, I thought, like I always do, well, let's see what happens. And I typed, I automatically wrote the interview and printed it, and when I read it, I just wept and thought, oh, holy smokes. A lot of detail about Dotie, the crash, the whole situation with that. But her whole message was if everyone who put flowers in front of the palace after she died would do this process, we'd have world peace in a day. Yeah. So she was that was her message. And the tabloid who flew me out to New York and spent several hours with me, uh, didn't want it. And I'm quite sure because who wants that message? You want to have some dirt on Charles, you know. Peace doesn't sell. No, it doesn't sell, especially in 1998. We were in sort of a you know, pseudo-peaceful world at the time. But so my agent said, Hey, maybe there's more famous dead people who want to talk. Well, I guess I don't know. Capitalize on this. Yes, let's see what happens. So we made this long list, and some of them said yes. I'd imagine I would go to Mother Teresa, and no, I'm tired, and Gandhi said it all in life, and there's a whole thing. And then the second one up was Nicole Brown Simpson. Oh. So that was very educational for me, too, because I had this idea that when you die, you go to this very peaceful place. And no, not when you're murdered by your husband and you leave your kids in in his care.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Oh no.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

You know, there's such a deep emotional uh connection that's not gonna let go of that, especially in the violent way that she died. So she had a lot of insights about racism and domestic abuse. But by the time we got to John Kennedy, which to this day is still one of my favorite interviews, because it's just we're finding out that's exactly kind of what happened. And he said to us, you know, this project isn't your idea. We're a group of souls who have gathered here in afterlife to help you get world peace. And we'll tell you who's gonna come up next. Because we didn't have Albert Einstein on the list. Shame on us. Then so when they said Einstein, I thought, oh Einstein, that's fine. Who doesn't like Albert Einstein? I don't I'm not into science or math or anything, but we all love Al. And when I channeled, I was speaking, it was the voice of all of my readings. And the impact was it literally took me about three years to adapt and adopt that this could be Einstein. Now, on first blush, he was saying Einsteinian things, you know. Yeah. But the implication was so hard to wrap my mind around. Like, oh, this is all fun and games when we're we're just pretending we talk to dead people, but is this real? I mean, am I really communicating with the soul of Albert Einstein? And yeah, so that's how I met him. But by the time I met him, and it was the voice of all my readings, it was the voice of sound, I felt like, okay, this just dropped down a deeper level than I ever imagined it would go. And uh in 2005, 100-year anniversary of Equals MC Squared, I thought, hey, let's do a little book with Albert. Just see what he has to say.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

So did you do a book for all your channels? Are they all in one book, or did you do like a book for each one?

SPEAKER_06 18:39

Well, I did a I did party of 12 the afterlife interviews, which were all the 12 interviews with the party who had been assembled. And then we did we didn't publish it until I didn't publish it in two thousand till 2001. And for I guess John Kennedy Jr. needed to be give the introduction because after he passed, then the book got finished with him as an introduction. And then when I thought about let's do Albert, just because Albert was Albert, you know, the other members of the party are really interesting, but this seemed really big to me, and it was the hundred-year anniversary, so I just did one for him, and that changed my life so thoroughly that it's not that I don't and can't communicate with others. I think I did an interview with Kirk Cobain and uh Clifford Baxter showed up, he was the Enron executive who committed suicide. So that's all well and good, but the work that I've done with Einstein is so profound to me that the rest of it seems a little bit like parlor tricks, you know. Oh, yeah, we can talk to Nicole and find out. But what he has brought forth on the planet and through this channeling is just mind-boggling to me. It's just unbelievable. And as the years have progressed and all of my doubts and my skepticism I've carried alongside of me and published Imagining Einstein essays on M Theory World Peace and the Science of Compassion. So this is 2005, which you know, you're my age, you we're tracking the evolution of human consciousness and how from 1993 to 2005 there's been big opening, right? But still, he says compassion with a capital C is actually the fifth fundamental force of the universe, which means it's the creative intelligence that uses the other four fundamental forces to empower the creation of the physical world one step at a time. And uh the source is in the center of the planet and it operates like a black hole, and the map of human consciousness, he drew this unified field theory that in entailed all of this. And at the time, you know, pushing a little insanity with this, it's like I have no idea if we could be living in a black hole. I mean, is this something I have to get in front of the scientists and say? And it might be so ridiculous that I'll get laughed off the stage. I mean, but so far, so good. So far, everything was so magnificent that I thought, well, I'll go with it. So I published that book, and that's the one that got me invited all around the world to teach and train and channel and sing. And then in 2016, I did a much bigger book called Einstein et al. Manifestation, conflict revolution, and the new operating system. And it's all illustrated. So it has all of the maps that lay on top of each other, and then at the end, it's how to do conflict revolution. And really, the first part of the book is the theory of why the second part of the book works, why this theory the angels had if You do it for here first, we'll have World Peace as the byproduct. Why that's true, that why that will work. Long story short, I did a science of consciousness conference last summer in Barcelona. I got to speak for 25 minutes and present to a lot of scientists my decades of work. And by this time I've done produced videos that illustrate it, so it's really exciting this to actually see it from the first ones. And I got to the part where I was saying, Well, it's 2005, and he wants me to tell you that we live in a black hole. And I said, I have to get up in front of the scientists and say we live in a black hole. And three people got up and they fist pumped and they were like, Yes, we knew it. We knew it was a black hole. And that was the moment I think I'm not gonna say I retired because that's impossible. But something, something like after all of these years of everything, and everything I've been through, and how conflict revolution has saved my life personally, etc., that it was finished. Some part of the mission was finished. When I said the psychic sorority meets the metaphysical hippie chicks, it's like it's about connecting, it's about affirming what has taken place through our lives, right? All the things we have seen evolve through our lives personally and you know collectively. And I used to think, because you know, I wanted to be a rock star, that my goal was to get on Joe Rogan, and it's like the biggest podcast in the world. It's just like, no, not really. I mean, I'll do it if it came up, but my goal is to hit as many pawns or you know, they're almost like drops of the waves. And you know, I don't I pride myself on being on YouTube since 2009 and only have 267 subscribers. Yes. Yes, yes, I can relate, sorry. Yes, I know, because we're on a mission. I mean, some people might use it to be influencers and make their money and do their thing, and I don't even think that's a bad thing. But for me, it's always been more of a scientific exploration, and this is my library. And if you're drawn here to hear these words, then you're supposed to be meant to be here. And if you're not, we're gonna sound like we're talking Greek. Right.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Exactly. Exactly. We're sowing seeds, and where those seeds prosper is where they're supposed to.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Not our business. That's right, not our business. That's exactly right. Uh Barbara, can you give us an overview of what conflict resolution is?

SPEAKER_00 25:12

Revolution.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Revolution, I'm sorry. That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 25:15

It's a common mistake. Yes, it's a daily practice, and it involves, first of all, of course, we wake up and say our prayer of gratitude, thank you for another day of life. And then we make the commitment that we're going to be observant of ourselves all day. These are not new ideas, but the way it's put together is really revolutionary. So we have this witness to ourselves, and what are we looking for? Well, we work with what he calls the three human dimensions. So there's intellect in the head, intuition in the heart, and emotion in the solar plexus. And what we're trying to do is master those dimensions within ourselves because that's our job. It's our job to take care of our domain. It's not my job to take care of your domain, and you can't take care of me. Nobody can feel my feelings or think my thoughts. And there's a way in which these three human dimensions do what he calls aligning to compassion. Compassion is that God force, that fifth fundamental force of the universe. And so basically, just to give you a quick overview of what the map looks like, if the source is in the center of the planet, and there's a part of us that's out in the heavens that can look down on that earth, like when I came in and you saw my earth. And then there's the lens where our bodies are manifesting all of the magic. So compassion mysteriously reaches into nothing and pulls out all of the mathematics that are going to be you. And like a compass that draws circles, it impels energy to create an electromagnetic particle, spherical particle, that's surrounding all the math that's you, that's your identity there, call it a compilation of consciousness. And then, because we're all in the center of the planet, compassion, like a compass that points to true north, aligns us all to true north, so we're all on the same map. And if it's a truly a unified field, the microcosm is the same as the macrocosm. So my compilation has this electromagnetic field that comes out the bottom, goes around the top, just like the earth. So we're a mirror image of how the earth works that way energetically. And from that compilation, a wave leaves and goes literally through the earth. So when we say, oh, Mother Earth, or we're a part of Earth, we are literally flowing from the center of the planet to the surface of the planet with our particular gravitational wave with particles. And it bursts through into the lens where magically and mismiraculously our bodies are created that are then projecting and perceiving all of that magical mathematical compassion impelling life. And the wave continues on into the heavens, and when it hits the Earth's electromagnetic field, it joins up with it. And it goes back down, back into the North Pole, and allegedly the that's the event horizon of the black hole. And then it goes back down into the center of the planet, back into your compilation to begin again, and it spins at the speed of light squared. And where the lens is with the physical body, it slows it down into the speed of light, and then you know projects it and we perceive it, and we have this incredible people are like, we live in a simulation. It's like, yes, that's right. We live in a simulation, but yeah, it's the whole that's the whole operating system. So when you get up in the morning, the idea, here's the here's the perfect system if we're aligned. Emotion, all of it is flowing through us freely. There's no suppression of what's uncomfortable or pain. We have a way to process emotion where we're fully feeling with our bodies and our breath. And that moves up into the heart, and it takes the second dimension of sound, the voice of compassion, intuition. So intuition is always impelling us to take the next most advantageous step for the good of the whole system, which it knows, God's voice knows. And then that impelling goes up into the third, into the intellect, and this is where all of the trouble begins. Because the way the system works, intellect has free will in it. So if you're gonna turn left, it's not intuition that commands your hand to grab the steering wheel and turn left. It's intellect. So intellect has been given the free will to say no to intuition. And here's a simple one. We all have been here. Intuition says rest. Your body says, Rest. And your intellect says, I can't rest, I got a zillion things to do, and off you go doing a zillion things, and then suddenly you're having fights with people, and maybe you're falling sick, and things are just hectic, and it's just you're missing the moment. And so, with the work of conflict revolution, the idea is when you catch yourself on aligned, it's the most powerful transformation you can make. Somebody else can tell you, here's what it looks like. And even when I train it, I don't you bring your conflict and we pull it apart, but I don't tell you. You put the pieces together, you find where, for example, people are always so disrespectful. Oh, why are people always so disrespectful of me? Okay, so the revolution brings you back around in the morning. You've created your sound bite that you triggered. Okay, respect. That's my lesson plan today. And I'm gonna observe myself and watch what am I feeling, how am I processing those feelings? Are those feelings shooting right through intellect, intuition into intellect and deciding that she's the one that's doing this to me, that's creating that reality. So we want to be so aware, we call it self-conscious, conscious of self, and so masterful that we can process emotion, all of it, listen to intuition and train our intellect to first of all be in present moment, because that's where all the action is. This is the miracle here in the lens of creation, while listening to intuition and then doing what it says. And when we do that, we align to compassion, and then God is able, and compassion is able to manifest in world peace as a byproduct. Or as I've seen for years and years when people actually do this, and the resolution of that inner conflict brings about something that happens that you can't go directly at to make happen. And the the quick example I like is after our first fight, that me and the girls, and we did it. We we each took our piece at the table during the fight, and everything opened up. And I went to work that night. I was singing at a club in Minneapolis and been there for a couple years, and the waitress just was not friendly. She just didn't like me, or I didn't care. You know, I work in a lot of clubs, and there's a lot of people, I don't care. But I went in that night and she was so warm and open, and she said, Oh, do you like Patty Smith? I've got some cassettes in the car I could give you. And she put twenty dollars in my tip jar, and I was like, What is going on? It just happened, and then I thought, this is what they're saying. When we change this energy internally, the way I guess I'm not you know comparing myself to Jesus, but he would emanate when he wherever he went, and that alone, that vibration and frequency of compassion that he would emanate would change people. They just had to touch the hem of his garment and they would feel that kind of change. And things would take place that you couldn't make happen. I could never have sat her down and said, Hey Sally, why do you hate me? Let's be friends. That's it. It's it's a practice, it takes it's the hardest work of your life, but when you start to reap the rewards, when you start to get the gift, as Kim said, I got the gift, I got the gift. Miracles happen. And I just turned 71 this year, and I'm telling you, after all of this time, there's this compounding of the miracles to a place I never thought I would be in this world, in this turmoil that I came out of. And uh yeah, so so that's kind of it. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

All of this and being aware of ourselves and being aware of our emotions, it's it's a lifelong process, it just never stops.

SPEAKER_04 34:12

It never always always learning every day.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

If someone were just beginning with your conflict revolution, and let's say someone gets triggered because they've had childhood trauma, and someone gets triggered by not being respected, if they were not respected as a child, and they put that two and two together and saying, I feel disrespected because this is what happened to me in my childhood, and it has nothing to do with the other person. What does that person do with that at that point?

SPEAKER_06 34:44

Well, there's two very distinct paths to take. One has to do with emotion, is that because we weren't respected as children and we weren't allowed to fully feel our feelings, they became obsessed in our energy. And maybe people talk about patterns, you know, childhood patterns, whatever it is, they're stuck in our energy system. And every time that somebody comes by to run with a mirror to remind us that we're not being respected, the trigger comes up. And if we don't own that emotion without using it as a projection onto, because then we'll just keep pulling in people who don't respect us. But when we stop, and so there's feeling the feelings, and I think the biggest thing is that we have been so misled into thinking that talking about how we feel is feeling. Talking about how we feel is an intellectual process.

unknown 35:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 35:41

Feeling our feelings is a moment in your body with your breath where the trauma of childhood is coming up. We should be feeling and releasing, feeling and breathing. Intuition is probably telling us, let go, or you know, uh aiding us with this. And it gets into intellect, and we go, Well, I I'm through this, and uh, you know, I didn't think I could blah blah blah. No, what we need in that moment, and these are two different skills and two different times to know when to use these skills. So you're being overwhelmed with emotion. If you're just gonna deal with emotion, set aside everything. Have a my affirmation used to be I don't need to know why I feel this way. I need to just sit here and feel with my breath. And that kept me from projecting on my sister or you know, what whatever it was. And it's tough because we all have the trauma. And right now I I think the whole world of humanity has sort of a collective, like, is this the end kind of trauma? Yep. But whatever it is, it doesn't even have to be horribly traumatic. It's some that gets stuck in us, and as we learn how to do that, the idea is we create this new operating system where now when I get triggered by my friend who's just such a control freak, I can take that breath and I can go, okay, where am I a control freak? And in that moment, it's sometimes it's so subtle that it's kind of a control freaky thing to try to get your friend to see that they're a control freak. Sandy, you're such a control freak. You know, he wants to acknowledge that. So my choice was instead of engaging in that, because that's the fight, I said, I said, Sandy, call me back in the morning, will you? I have to go to bed. Oh, oh, okay. And the next morning she called back, she'd be like, What in the world was wrong with me last night? I was such a control freak. Now that's a whole different outcome than had I tried to convince her what a control freak she was. So the breathing and the feeling and the releasing diminishes the power of the intellect, which is the other skill set. And I always say to people, we're all control freaks, but when you're control freakish about the things that you are in charge of, that's okay. I am freakishly obsessed with feeling all of my feelings and making sure that I use that breath work. So with intellect, because we are wild horses in there that won't shut up, we parboil down what's the basic message, get it down to one sentence, maybe two. Well, he doesn't respect me. Well, whatever. I can tell you there's probably only about three conflicts in the world when you do that. And that is our sound bite. So now when I get up in the morning, my job is to figure out where am I not respecting myself? Where does intuition say slow down and I speed up? Where am I not respecting other people because I'm so important? Or so when you shift the focus, you know, you're gonna find it. Right? If you're not looking for it, you're never gonna find it. If you're looking for it, you'll find it, and not in the way to find how bad you are and how flawed, but to find it, to have that aha moment. We call it hanging and dang. Because when you watch yourself, I had this my own conflict once my they didn't respect my physical. I was had some shoulder problems, and I wasn't supposed to be cleaning for the boss that I worked for, and I he never would get cleaning help, and I was out there. They don't respect my physical condition. Dang. Nobody's forcing me to clean this window. Dang. That is a moment where you can make rudimental change. First of all, you're emptying out all the basement of all that emotion, and then you're retraining yourself to be responsible for yourself, and that's basically self-love. So that builds on itself, that self-love and all the rewards that come with it. And in that case, then I had to sit down because I was like, Well, what do I do? This situation's been going on for so long. And the answer came, make yourself heard. So intuition is always an impelling to do something. It's not the explanation, it's not the intellectualizing, the rationale. It's an impelling to do something that's gonna be for the good of the whole. So I did. I ended up going back to work and taking my boss out. I live on an island, and we went to the beach, and I took him by the ears and I said, I do not clean. I have been lying all summer because every time you don't have a cleaner, I go clean, I'm lying. But it's end, it's over. I'm not gonna do it anymore. Repeat back to me. And he's he was fun. And we went back to the office and oh in walked Ileana. I heard you need a cleaner. I'd been looking for a cleaner for months. So that's it's so interactive, and it's so much about what life actually is bringing you and how you can interact with it in a way that's gonna be the most regenerative, the thriving, it's good, it's the world peace that I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_04 41:29

What are some of the misconceptions that people have about conflict?

SPEAKER_06 41:35

That it's gonna go away, that we're gonna get to a place where we just don't have it anymore, which I think is truly untrue. I think it's part of the creative process. And when we put it into this new operating system, what we're doing is actually tapping into the fuel of our intention, which I think all of us here and all the people who listen to you and all the many, many podcasts I've been on, of all of us who want to become master creators for the greater good, to be on this mission, to make the earth this heaven that it's supposed to be, we do it through conflict. But when we do this, the emotion suddenly doesn't become a weapon, it becomes the fuel for the creative solution. And I now, aside from my growing up as like, okay, who wants to fight? You know, I'm like the let's find a creative solution. You know, let's let's find out what's good for the whole here. And it's amazing how even just having that attitude, it hasn't solved all the problems of the world, but has a huge impact on the energy where you walk into.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

I kind of feel like we're at a crisis situation here on this planet, and we need something to happen very quickly because things I kind of feel like things are getting so far out of control that we need something very drastic to happen to get us back on track. What do you see as far as the future for humanity given what is going on in the world today?

SPEAKER_06 43:17

I have the kind of the opposite view, even though I agree with you that things are as crazy as they come, maybe they'll get crazier and it wouldn't surprise me. However, I have never seen so many people who are understanding that the only place we're gonna get this is inside us. Yeah, I agree with that. And I did a channel a couple weeks ago and where he said there's this condition right now where there's all of these individuals who are have worked so hard and become these evolved beings, and they're being faced with this deep, deep emotion, whether it's you know your fear or anger. Anger, whatever the craziness of the world is evoking in you emotionally. And actually, that's driving us deeper into ourselves. And that's kind of the idea of the beauty of conflict. So in fact, the angel said if Teresa and Kim and I didn't have conflict, we would have been just sitting in a room together the rest of our lives doing nothing. I mean, we would be doing things, but sometimes conflict is about driving you apart so that you can get away and grow. You don't have to have an esoteric attitude about it. And sometimes the things that are so torturous to us, the suffering, is to drive us deep, deep, deep into our emotional selves, conscious to remove all those abscesses that you can't get to and unless you feel them. That's why when somebody comes by and triggers you into anger, oh yay, I'm gonna go capture some of that that I can't get out of there because I'm so busy projecting and move that along. And when we do that, when so many people are so many backs against the wall, like there's no political leader, there's no religious leader, there's no there's no leader that's gonna do this. We have to do it ourselves. We have to stop fighting on on the first level, which is our level. And that's it's hard for people, you know, because you know how great all these ideas are, but the moment you get triggered, it suddenly becomes difficult. Yep. You don't want to do it. So people can say, What a great idea. I think my sister needs this. It's like, no, this is for us, this is for you. You're in charge of you, she's in charge of her, and sooner or later we all have to go there. So I'm excited because, like I said, I've been on probably 200 podcasts in the past three years, and people are there. They're getting it, they're getting concepts, they're getting the ideas, they're creating their, it doesn't have to be conflict revolution, that's just one form of it. They're creating all of that to accept and move emotion, knowing that it's about healing, to master the mind, and to find out what intuition is saying. And you know, sometimes it seems so ordinary. No, no, no. But what am I what's my real purpose?

SPEAKER_05 46:36

It's like, isn't that enough? Something more exciting, please.

unknown 46:41

Right.

SPEAKER_05 46:41

Want to be a rock star? I'm a rock star.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

No, it's two points that it's like parents saying, Oh, my child needs therapy. Well, maybe it's not the child that needs therapy, maybe it's the parents that really need the therapy.

SPEAKER_06 46:56

Maybe it came from someone else. You must be channeling Einstein because that's what he said in party of twelve. That ADHD and all those were diseases of the parents.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

And my mantra in life and what I try to impart on people is taking responsibility, personal responsibility for everything that we feel, everything that we think, everything that we do, everything that we say to somebody, it all comes back to us. And when we take a look at ourselves, not to be judgmental, to look at ourselves with kindness and love. We're our harshest critics. We can be very, very hard on ourselves. And a lot of that is conditioning, in my opinion. We are the culmination of everyone that we've come into contact with in our lives. And oh, in timelines. Yeah, you know, teachers, religious leaders, friends, parents, yeah, everybody.

SPEAKER_06 47:57

And you know, when we accept ourselves, it doesn't matter what they say. No.

SPEAKER_04 48:03

Oh, but that's like boring.

SPEAKER_05 48:08

Self-love, self-acceptance. That's so boring. No, what's my real purpose? What's my real purpose? Rockstar.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

That's just way too simple. It has to be more complicated than it's a simple message, and it's been spoken for generations to look within that the that everything is within, and you can't fix anything outside of yourself. You just gotta fix yourself. You fix yourself, you fix the world one person at a time.

SPEAKER_06 48:37

Well, and Jesus, excuse me, if we can bring him back in. Sure. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah, of course. He nobody owns him anyway, so exactly he said, I'm here to show you what you can do.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

He never said anything different than that either. He never said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

What I can do, you can do. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

Came right out and said it very honestly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:05

So at least at this age, at this point in my life, it's so much not boring anymore. You know, that's cool. Life had to be so exciting. I know. And now I'm just uh I was telling somebody the other day, I get up and I look and I go, oh, blue curtains. How did they who made those? How did they magic?

SPEAKER_02 49:32

I know that feeling where everything suddenly is magic. It's like naturally tripping.

SPEAKER_04 49:37

It is, it absolutely is.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

I hate to say it, but for someone kind of just starting out and really going within, how do you think they can distinguish genuine intuition from fear, wishful thinking, or their imagination? Now, I'm a big believer in imagination. I think everything comes from imagination.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

And sometimes we don't give it enough credit.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

We did we poo-hoo it. Like I remember being in classes and being told, okay, this mediumship thing, I know I I'm connecting, but it feels like it's my imagination. And our teacher would go, mm-hmm. What do you think they use? Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 50:18

Exactly. And imagination is more important than knowledge. Thank you, Einstein. Well, that's why I love, love, love conflict revolution, because it it's very it creates very clear parameters. So for example, intuition. It's a small impelling, it's not always a statement, but we just use that because sometimes it's a body feeling or chicken skin, whatever. It's a small, impelling telling you the next most advantageous step for the good of the whole. So when we're trying to figure out what it is, and like, what's my imagination and what's my intuition? Okay, is it small? I had a workshop once, and the woman was like, here's what my intuition is telling me. And I said, Okay, okay, so it's small, it's an impelling and it it might be the next step, but is it for the good of the whole? So all four pieces have to work out. So what you just actually said was imagination, which is takes place in the intellect, fear, which takes place in the solar plexus. So once you start watching yourself, and actually, you know, I had a little map for a while. It's like, okay, intellect up here, and you begin to separate them out and you start to process emotion with your breath and your body. You, as I said, it diminishes the power of the intellect and the imagination. It's not feeding the imagination that's saying, Oh my god, the world's coming to me, and then it's gonna be and then you go into the intellect and you can hear all that, but then you can also hear the kind of the voices of the superconscious saying, everything is perfect. So getting to know yourself. So that's why we do the witness. That's why we get to know ourselves and get to know what those people and everybody becomes a scientist then of your own life. You're the doing the experiments on yourself.

SPEAKER_04 52:23

That's amazing. I remember what I learned in my personal experience was that warnings come, but they don't come with fear. I get absolutely calm if it's an actual warning. If it's not, and I'm just like can't move because I'm so afraid, then that's not an actual intuitive warning.

SPEAKER_06 52:42

Yeah, I I I agree with that too. The actual intuitive message is very clear and it's very seated. It's coming up before the intellect, right? So if you're catching it there, it's very clear.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Yeah. Fascinating. Fascinating stuff.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

It is. Do you have YouTube videos where you're channeling that people can watch?

SPEAKER_06 53:11

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got it, I got a ton of free stuff on my YouTube channel. I think I have BarbWith on YouTube. Okay. All kinds of stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

How else can people contact you?

SPEAKER_06 53:22

Well, barberwith.com is my main hub, and everything goes out from there. Barbwith.com is the music, and then I have SynergyAlliance.lc, which is my publishing company and the psychic sorority, but barberwith.com will send you to all of that. And up in the right hand corner of my barberwith.com is the site the conflict revolution challenge, where you can download a free guide for how to do it. I also have a little 12-week journal if you want to do an experiment on yourself to see how many miracles you can create for yourself. If your listeners are interested in reading, use coupon code Einstein. You get 40% off. Nice. Very good. You have a great radio voice, too. Oh, thank you so much. You do.

SPEAKER_04 54:17

It's all the singing, I think. It's all ASMR and singing. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Terry and Lisa, any other questions? No, I just want to listen to her all day.

unknown 54:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

What a great conversation, gals. I know. We'd love to have you back. I would. I would love to come back. I just would you ever consider channeling? Of course. Okay. Fabulous. Perfect.

SPEAKER_06 54:41

Of course. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_05 54:43

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 54:44

Awesome.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

I'm so grateful. Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much. It's just wonderful to have met you.

SPEAKER_06 54:50

Absolutely. And I feel like we're friends going forward now.

SPEAKER_04 54:55

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

New sorority members. Yep. Yep. New sorority members. Which I never thought would come out of my mouth.

unknown 55:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:07

And at least it's a singer, also. Oh, really? I understand. I understand the uh the clubs that where nobody's listening.

SPEAKER_03 55:14

I thought that was like so that triggered me. I needed to go within. What is this? A joke? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

Play a faster one. I'm gonna be a singer in a past life. Does that count? I mean in a future life, does that count? Yes. My next life, I'm gonna be a singer.

SPEAKER_04 55:35

I'm gonna be a Tony Award winner. Next life.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

Sing Mustang Sally. Mustang Sally.

SPEAKER_06 55:43

My favorite karaoke song.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Exactly. Barbara, it was so nice to meet you. Thank you so much for joining us and giving us all this really interesting information. And yeah, we look forward to look forward to having you again. Absolutely. You are a big bright light.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

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