ET Contact, UFOs & the Unknown with Yan Grey

Yan Grey, also known as Mr. Grey, has considered himself an experiencer since the age of three. Although his extraordinary experiences paused when he began primary school, they returned after he completed college, setting him on a lifelong journey to better understand the mysteries of consciousness and the unexplained.

For the past seven years, Yan has hosted and produced the popular YouTube channel Experiencer Interviews, where he has welcomed ET contactees and experiencers from around the world to share their remarkable stories.

In this fascinating conversation, we explore Yan's personal journey and discuss a wide range of extraordinary phenomena, including ET contact, UFOs, shadow beings, angelic encounters, psychic predictions, visions, and communications with the afterlife. Throughout it all, Yan has remained committed to providing a platform where people can share their experiences openly and respectfully, with the hope of encouraging thoughtful discussion and a deeper exploration of these extraordinary topics.

Disclaimer: The opinions and beliefs expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts or Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0. I'm Susanna Masteri, Psychic Medium and author of Living Beyond Death. My co-hosts are Psychic Medium Annalise Sebastiani and ET experiencer Terry Scalia. We focus on grounded, honest conversations about consciousness, mediumship, channeling, ET psychology, and modern spiritual culture. Thank you for joining us. Jan Gray, also known as Mr. Gray, has been an experiencer since the age of three. Although his experiences ceased when he began primary school, they returned after he completed college. For the past seven years, he has had the privilege of hosting and producing the YouTube channel Experiencer Interviews, where he interviews ET contactees and experiencers from around the world. From ETs and UFOs to shadow beings, angelic encounters, psychic predictions, visions, and communications with the afterlife, Jan has explored a remarkable range of extraordinary experiences. He considers it a true blessing to share these stories and experiences in service to humanity. Welcome by Jan. Hi everyone, and uh thanks for having me. Yay. It's a pleasure. Yeah. So Terry and I have both been interviewed on your podcast, which we enjoyed very much, and so we're really honored to have you here today.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Very honored. If you could tell us a little bit about your background and growing up, what happened in the very beginning?

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Sure. Well, professionally, I've been working in the mining industry since the age of 16. So I have a college degree in geology and one in mineralogy. And I've been doing uh basically mining cartography since 2005. Now, experience-wise, I I've just recently turned 51. So I'm a Leo and I was born in 1975. Now, you have to sort of go back to the 70s really to like put things into perspective. I grew up in Ontario, Canada, uh in a small town called Tomogamy, which is basically in the woods. I've heard a few stories that about Bigfoot sightings in the area, but I didn't know about that until like uh when I was in like my twenties. But so imagine like in 1977. So I grew up, I was born in 1975. Uh so yeah, Tomogamy is basically like four hours north of Toronto, just uh to help locate it. Beside uh like a really big lake called Tamogamy Lake. Uh my dad was a boat captain and he would bring down that lake with like logs with a boat. Now uh in the 70s we didn't uh especially like in northern like middle Ontario uh in the in the woods we didn't I didn't even know like corner stores existed. So because my parents didn't want me to know that there was this like magical place where candy was in abundance. Because even back then we didn't have a lot of bubblegum, like choices of candy, chocolates, so anything ET-ish we didn't know about because it wasn't really something that we talked about. We had uh like three channels on a black and white TV, only one like we had two TV, one like one small TV in the uh the kitchen and one in the living room. We had like we didn't have cable up there, three channels. Uh I grew up on uh on basically uh peanut butter sandwiches and Scooby-Doo, Gilligan's Island. So yeah, we didn't know anything about ETs, but we there was a lot of ghost stories in within the immediate family. We were used to that. If we got time, I might get into one really good one. So my story starts off, I suspect that was about years two and a half to three, because my my brother was born when I was four, and this happened at least a good year and a half before that. I was still in the crib. I remember telling my mom, well, a lot of times, that from the age of like two and a half to four-ish, there were people in my bedroom at night. Now I was so afraid knowing that they were there. I don't forget, I I can't remember seeing their faces, but I would tell my mom, and this was even even my mom told me this when I was in uh like my my mid-30s that she remembered me saying this, that there were people in my bedroom at night. I was so afraid of them, knowing that they were there, that I would sleep with my entire body against the wall. So imagine like a small child, like three feet tall, I don't know, uh, with his entire body tucked against the wall, and I slept like that, like a plank. Sometimes I would sleep in a field position, but always against the wall with my back to them. Uh, because I was afraid of looking behind me. So I slept like that basically up until the age of 11-ish, let's say. And I was afraid of uh the windows and things under the bed, the closet, the door that might be opening up. And this was a thing. When my brother was born, eventually they used my bedroom because they had the crib, and I they switched me to another another bedroom. And now this story only started making sense to me recently, thanks to my channel. Now, when I was five-ish, I still remember till this day my first nightmare, which happened in that bedroom, the the you know, the second one. I remember this as if it happened yesterday. So what happened was I'm sleeping, I wake up in my bed, and I'm feeling the air, everything around me felt palpable, a bit floaty-ish, and I could feel the air like pushing against me. And at the end of my bed, on the foot of the bed, was a three-foot-tall boxing glove. The glove was doing this, just moving a bit like that. And of course I was freaked out. And you know, being five years old, of course. And then so I call out to my my folks, my mom and dad come in the bedroom, my my dad picks me up and I point to the boxing glove, and of course they couldn't see it. So there's this sort of confusing aspect to the to the nightmare. But so eventually I I black out and but I remember that weird feeling and the the glove to till this day. And eventually, thanks to my channel, I interviewed a lady that was describing the same thing, and she would refer it to as a uh alien fog-ish, which basically eventually made sense thanks to me learning about screen images. So I thought to myself, okay, if because I I didn't know anything about ETs until the age of 40 now. I I didn't know anything. I I'm a huge track fan, grew up on the old track, the new track, not the the Kurtzman track, but all the uh all the good old stuff. So I loved the whole ET aspect. I even got a uh Star Trek tattoo on my shoulder, but so the whole Star Family thing was a thing to me, but I didn't know anything about ET in general. So I didn't know that the glove might have been a screen image of a grade. You know, the fact that it was it was bigger than a normal boxing glove and uh and whatnot. Eventually in 84, my folks and I moved to Quebec because my my dad lost his job, the the company went broke. That's when my dad started working in the mining industry, and that's why I'm in the industry as well. But so nothing happened really uh when my brother was born, uh started going to school, and I I fell into this sort of like governmental conditioning system, really, which is school basically. But so nothing happened to me up until the age of 25, roughly. But when I turned 11, I was still sleeping against with my belly against the wall, being like a like almost six foot tall teen at the time. But eventually it became uh a force of habit, basically. It felt good. But this time I realized I I went to bed, so I'm sleeping, but eventually I became conscious, my eyes are closed. I realize I'm on my I'm on my back, but for some reason, both of my legs are in the air at a 45 degree angle, and I realize that that's not normal. I'm supposed to be like lying down. Then I cry out no in my head really loud, and then my I feel my feet falling back towards the bed poof with a thump, and I black out and I wake up the next morning. So I suspect now that I was being either brought back from something, and my consciousness came too, and uh that's when I realized my legs were in the air, but yeah, so nothing happened to me up until the age of 25. So I finished school with my two college degrees, and I'm I I start working in Quebec City for a uh a mining research center. So I had this sort of contract for uh uh a year. I'm in a new apartment, and I was um just about to fall asleep within that sort of like beta, delta, theta wave type of thing. I'm really calm and I'm looking towards the bedroom closet door, which is about a few feet away from me. Within that immediate area in the air, the air starts to look like a bubble of energy forms in front of me. So I I suspect I was tapping into something. So imagine like heat rising from hot pavement going up like that. And within that bubble of energy, I see my brother's face. His eyes were closed. He's like a like a junior, like a small brat pit, basically. Blonde boy there. So his face is tilted to the side, his eyes were closed, and because of the energy and stuff like that, it felt like he was drowning. So I thought, oh, this is this is the first time of me seeing something like that. I believe it's like like a third eye vision type of thing. So the next day I call my mom and I tell her the story because my mom was my go-to person when these events happened. I didn't have like somebody else. And for some reason, which is really strange, I think this is something that a lot of experiencers tend to they have these stories, they want to share them with other people. But for some reason, and at least in my case, I thought everybody had these happen to them. So why would I share with everyone? It was like something normal. And on my mother side, well, when I told her I would tell her these stories, she said, Well, keep them to yourselves because some people might judge me or uh might I didn't I did she didn't want me to get taken away here, I don't know. But uh yeah, anyhow, so my my I told her my told her story. My mom calls up a week later to tell me that my brother was at the hospital getting massive blood transfusions because the medication he was taking for his IBS uh was um I think uh methrotrexate or not methro the no, not methyl. But uh yeah, it's it's sort of like a uh a chemo pill that they give him to lower his immune system. It was uh basically killing him. His blood platelets were severely low and he could have died. So for so they stopped his medication and they put him on blood transfusions for the entire week. And he was lucky he didn't get AIDS. Yeah, he was able to get out of it, but was it my soul that was telling me something was gonna happen? I have no idea. So that was like my first experience when it comes to like the star seed experiencer type of like psychic experiences. So nothing else happened during that year. I moved back to my hometown. So I started working at this diamond exploration company. I'm dating this new girl called Veronica. So I was renting a second-story apartment. Nothing really happened to me, like majorly, like experiences-wise, but this is where it all started. So this was around 2007, I believe. So I wake up during the summer, it was very hot. Imagine like a second-story apartment, and the uh there was almost no air coming in through the bedroom, uh, even all the uh the windows were open, the drapes were opened and all that. I wake up around 6 a.m. There's like loads of sunlight, and I'm looking around, and without these glasses, I could see pretty well. So I'm just looking around. For some reason, I'm on my back. And normally at that time, I would always sleep on my stomach, being a child of the 70s. Our moms would always put us on our stomach with our head tilted to the side if we get sick. So I was used to that, but strangely enough, I'm on my back and I'm looking around, really calm, and I realize in front of me, just at the foot of the bed, maybe at six foot feet in the air, I'm seeing these this black outline, a black outline like somewhat see-through. And I'm looking at it with my eyes, I start retracing the outlines, and I realize it's a sort of upside-down guitar pick, since I'm a guitar player, and or an upside-down pair, so large at the top and skinny at the bottom, a bit like my face basically, but a larger head though. I realize, oh, is that a head? And I start concentrating on inside it, and I realize at the top of the head were two big round eyes, perfectly round, but really big. And I'm looking at that, and then I thought to myself, oh, it's probably a ghost. And for some reason, I was super calm. It was calming me down. I would have freaked out normally. Any normal person would freak out. So I look at it for like 30 seconds, eventually I get the feeling, oh, I should fall back asleep. It's just a ghost. So I turned around, hug Veronica, fall back asleep, and I tell my mom the story the next day. Now, maybe a few months later, within that same bedroom. Now I'm sleeping on my left side, so my right side's the ears facing the ceiling, and maybe an inch away from my ear, I hear a lady's voice say, You're gonna be an uncle and your parents' grandparents. This was a lady's voice that spoke to me in English. Because my parents are French, I was raised up in a like a French environment, but I'm bilingual, of course. So I wake up thinking somebody's in the bedroom. So the light switch was just above my head. So I raise up, put the light on, no one's in the bedroom. Turn around, Veronica's still sleeping. So she wasn't the one speaking to me. So I was a panicky, like, what the hell was that? So I fall asleep and I call my mom and I told her the story the next day. I completely forget about it. Now to back up a bit, my brother, when I was 25, so I was around 29, 30 at the time when this happened. So when he when he was 21, and I was 25, he got married fairly young. He tried to get his wife pregnant for a long time and nothing kicked in. So they had in vitro done, lots of hormones, basically to a point that she almost died. Her belly swole up so big that she had to like stay at the hospital for weeks to get her belly to deflate, let's say, and she almost died. And um, so eventually they sort of uh with a lot of time and money put into that, they they stopped. They thought, okay, well, so I thought, okay, my my my parents won't have grandchildren. So it was a bit sad, but eventually they stopped trying. Now, all of a sudden, I get this female voice telling me that my brother's gonna be with a child and his and his wife. So I didn't tell my brother. I only told my mom, and I completely forgot about it. Three months after, almost to the day, my brother calls up and says, Yan, do you feel old today? And I thought, well, that's a strange question. Like, no. He says, Well, congrats, you're you're gonna be an uncle. And I he eventually tells me that I will be um the godfather. And so, like, hey, hooray, and all that. And uh, so I called my mom to tell her the story, and of course he called her first, and and then she tells me, Do you remember the voice? And that's what it hits, like my jaw dropped, and I thought, holy moly, that actually happened. So I hope that my goddaughter's an experiencer because when she was old enough to talk, and my my mother would babysit her. One time she'd wake up and she would call grandma. Grandma, there's a man in my room, and also my mom saw a lady in white in the same house, in her house, basically. So I'm not, yeah. There's also the lady in white in my story, so yeah, just fingers crossed. So uh so yeah, do you have any questions for me right now?

SPEAKER_04 15:58

If you don't mind, what I picked up when you were talking about seeing your brother's face in the bubble before you knew that he was in the hospital, what I got was that you were connecting with his consciousness. Whatever became of that, you know, if there was any communication within that experience, I don't know, but that's what I got. You were connecting with his consciousness because he was during that time, he was in and out of his body also.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

I see.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

Um that makes sense. My other question was Is your mother psychic at all, or is she an experiencer herself?

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Experiencer, I'm not sure. She's uh my grandmother would tell my mom that she had a lot of dreams flying. My mom was into angels, and I found out later that she had crystals and pendulums in her bedroom. Okay. Eventually I started using crystals and pendulums too. I became pretty good with it, and I showed her how to use it, ask the pendulum questions. Now, to what extent is it really true? Is it are we tapping into something or is it really us? But uh, I don't know. But I always bought her like Angel books for Christmas, but I bought eventually I bought her Barbara Mersiniak's the Play Dean Message. And uh she started drinking about E.T.s after that. One time she she dreamt of what she described as a Nordic. He was standing on water and was doing this or something like that with his fingers. And eventually the dream turned to and he was holding a pig for some reason. And eventually the dreamt the dream turned to her describing what she what was probably a reptilian, and she was afraid. She never saw that before, but he had leathery skin, grayish leathery skin. But yeah, it looked more like a if it were a gray, she knew what grays looked like. But yeah, that's uh but eventually she she passed away not long after that.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

How far back in your family do these experiences go that you know of?

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Some of my my cousins on my my paternal side had experiences uh a lot with spirit. Uh with spirit, my uncles and my grandfather, when he was uh a bit younger, also had experiences. Now, to maybe correlate why I'm having these experiences. Now, when I interview people from the states, one of the first questions I asked, do you have someone in the you meet a family that works for the military? Here, the military is a bit less big, so none of my relatives worked for the military. But eventually I met and I almost got married to a uh, and I'll get into that later on, but I almost married a uh British child abductee. And she told me when I told her about my grandmother's bloodline. Now, growing up, my grandma would tell my mother that her family, which her surname's Aylwin. So Mary Angel Aylwin is her name. And she didn't know much about the family, but she knew that back in the day it was an important family. You know, again, this is like growing up the 70s, the 80s, we didn't have the internet. How could you try to trace your family bloodline or whatever, your family history? Basically, it's it's a it was a difficult thing. So she thought having a lot of Irish immigrants in Canada, that okay, could have been like an important Irish family. But thanks to my fiance at the time, she told me no, the Eylwins, they were nobles in Britain. So my ancestors on my mother's grandmother's side are British nobility. And the the manor's still up, which is called, which it changed names over time, but it was called Ail Aylwine Tone, and it became Aylwington, which sounds like Aylwin, Aylwin. So the word Ailwin is spelt a-y-l-w-in-it derives from the same branch bloodline or family name, but the words Alvin, like in Alvin and Chetmunks, it's the same thing. It's the same, it's like the same branch. But over time, because people didn't have didn't go to school, they would spell things out how it's pronounced, not how it's written. Okay, so then they eventually like again the family name sort of branched out depending on who would sign whatever. And uh, so all those surnames come from the same ancient old English. Now, this is like prior to Anglo-Saxon. So this is old English, old Old Britain, almost can be traced back to the like the Roman era. The word is elf wine, it's spelled A-E-L-F-W-I-N-E. Now, Professor Tolkien in Lord of the Rings also was knowledgeable regarding that family name, so he used it in his book. So it's not he didn't invent it, it comes, it's this it's actually a thing. Now, in Anglo-Saxon, it's the word elf wine is translated to, and there's a like a few names here there. It's called magic friend, elf friend, noble friend. But one of the oldest names that comes from that word is, and I only found out this recently, and thanks to a I was watching a um a documentary on the non-Anunaki and the Nephilim, and the word elf wine is also can be uh referenced as shining ones plural. So A-E-L-F is shining ones, and wine means friend, so friends of the shining ones. So basically, my my ancestors were friends of gods. So yeah, so that that's like it it means nothing. I'm not rich or anything, it's just like a neat little tidbit that I I love to get my my hands on.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

That is very cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Oh wow, so that could be like a contributing factor to you having experiences generational, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

Absolutely. My other question has to do with your niece. Now, at the time when she said she was seeing this man in her room, was your grandfather passed?

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Both of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:45

All right, because I was feeling grandfather on mother's side.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Okay, because that yeah, he he died fairly young. Back in the day, the kids started like smoking cigs at the age of five, basically.

SPEAKER_04 21:58

Oh

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

And I thought no.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Well maybe I may be exaggerating, but perhaps uh like at the age of ten, let's say. But um yeah, the he died of uh lung cancer. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:14

Yeah, that's the feeling I got when you were telling that that it was grandfather which would be great grandfather.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

She was a medium. I haven't told her the story yet. I told my brother uh that I will because I was waiting for her to be because she just graduated from a high school uh this year, and um she's into things magical. So she's really like me. My brother's more down-to-earth type of person, and her but her mom is really uh scared about these things. ET stuff.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Yeah. This to me is clearly a family that goes back. Your history is way back. I mean, many, many, many, many, many lifetimes.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Do you know of the person called Dr. Louis Touri? He was on he went on coast to coast a few times. He's uh a French medium, and uh he uses star charts and stuff like that to uh to basically sum up your story, your your history, and stuff like that. And I had him on and he described me to the T.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

And uh yeah, that uh usually try to look him up and uh he's he's quite something, he's quite something. But yeah, yeah, regarding my family, um yeah, there's a lot of like ghost stuff, but again, I didn't know anything about ETs until the age of 40, which is uh I'm really thankful for whatever came of it. But uh yeah, it really changed my life, knowing that I was an experiencer, and and I'll get to that later on, yeah. So to um to continue, so I've had this the face of a gray in my bedroom, the the lady with uh regarding my brother's child, and then eventually during that year, uh Veronica leaves me. Also, the owner of the the apartment was gonna kick me out because he wanted to bring in his uh his daughter to live there. So I decided to buy my first house. So this was a uh a modular home, brand new, that was brought built off site, brought on site. I I chose the uh the lot. The first day I entered the house, I started staging the house. To those that know me who were passed away, so basically my family, please visit me. You're allowed to come into my house as long as you protect the house. And uh so when you ask the universe, the universe provides, and um started getting body taps at night. Now, this didn't happen like from the get-go, from as soon as I said that, but within that year I started getting body taps, and I didn't know what they were. So at first I thought, okay, it's because uh my back's chilly, I was sleeping on my my belly, so my my back was pointing to the uh to the ceiling. So I thought, okay, it's I might be like cold, so I go under the covers, and eventually I started getting body taps beneath the covers, like to wake up to double taps. Oh, that's weird. And this would happen like more and more as time went on. Now the body taps happened from 2009 when I bought the house to 2015, basically, to the end of the year. I had it happen once, my new house now, but things really stopped. Uh and um then I would hear the this weird sound come in from the kitchen, because my bedroom was at the end of the house, because it's so so modular homes are basically like long rectangles. My both bedrooms are on the extremities, and then um so I was near the uh the kitchen, and this would happen after like maybe half past twelve at night all the time, like maybe once or twice a month. Now eventually I got tired of it. So this was during a weekend, and I decided to start explore the uh the sound. So I start move uh pulling everything, and eventually I got to the uh the trash bin, the plastic white trash bin that I had, and I realized that yeah, that it was the the the the cover that was making the sound. So something was opening it and closing it. I okay, I thought, well, nothing's bad's happening because of it. So it's it could be like a ghost, a poultry guys, I don't know. It could be the same people touching me, I don't know. Now, during that same time, even the year prior to that, I felt my body was changing that something bad was happening. My mother says, Well, why don't you go see a medium where she lived? I see her, and the session was amazing, and she was always like watching beside me, she wasn't looking looking at me, but she was looking at something beside me, and like tears would fall from her face as if she was like talking to whatever was beside me. Now, is this like a hoax type of thing? I don't know. What she said to me was like she like as if she knew me. All the things that happened to me, she knew. And she said, You're gonna meet, and I was single at the time, like I said, and you're gonna meet this blonde lady, and she starts doing this, and then she says, Okay, her hair is gonna be here. She's you're gonna meet her in a year and a half's time, probably, max two years. So, within uh a year and a half's time, I was seeing other women during that time, but all of them were brown-haired women, and I wasn't meeting any blonde-haired women. Oh, yeah, prior to that, when I was in the the second story uh apartment, I heard uh a voice or woke up with a voice the next day, or the word serendipity in my mind. Now I had no idea what the word meant. Even though I was bilingual, I went to English schools all my life, I did not know what the word meant. Like as if I invented a new word. So I go online, Google didn't exist at the time, at least it wasn't something. So I I had to like use the Yahoo. So I say I had to Yahoo it instead of Google it. The word serendipity existed. Oh my god. And then I started reading about it, and it said uh meeting somebody in an unusual place that you haven't seen in a long time, it's yeah, it's like serendipitous, real, basically. So each time something new happened to me, I tried to associate that with uh the word serendipity, and nothing really kicked in. Now, one day I go to Walmart noon to get something, and I meet uh uh a guy I knew back when it was uh in my early 20s. I haven't seen him like in basically, oh my god, 20, almost 20 years. And he was waiting for somebody. So we start talking. Now this beautiful, imagine like a tall, six-foot-tall, blonde, Nordic, play DN-ish type of woman that you you hear or you see on on in videos online, starts walking towards us. Now I'm looking to and fro, waiting for whoever my friend was waiting for, because this this lady was way too beautiful, and she stops in front of us. I thought to myself, ooh, that this is weird. And then she starts talking to me. She she introduces herself. Now, what I hear is this sort of noble English type of voice that you'd hear only on in like uh radio podcasts or movies, and uh so she starts talking to me, and then uh we we just talk and eventually the both of them leave. I go back home, and like a few days later I get an email from this lady through my friend, but she he gave him my email. She says that I was a starseed. I thought, oh, this is strange. No. Is she in a sect? Little did I knew about E.T.s. She went uh on this sort of like world trip. She went to India and she went to these temples, and um so during that time we really emailed a lot. So she basically gave me my sort of uh training basically to what it meant to be a starseed. So uh again, I was I was a bit freaked out in the beginning, but more started to make sense about my past life. All the experiences that I went through started to make sense. Why I felt alone all my life, why I didn't connect with people during high school, during grade school. I did not. All my life I I would walk in the living room and I would say, I'm not like them, I'm not like them, I'm not like them. And I couldn't connect until I realized I wasn't alone. Other people had these experiences too, so that really was uh a healing type of thing for me. So really thanks to her. She also told me uh that she was a uh a child gray abductee. Now, when she was a kid, uh her mom used to date Ozzie Osborne. Okay, she's three years older than me, so she was six at the time. So yeah, mid-70s, let's say. Ozzie would come up to her uh her mom's place. Uh Sarah was on the floor and she would look uh up at Ozzie and she said, You look weird. Ozzie would laugh. Yeah. Her mom wasn't the best of uh basically a hippie, but uh yeah, wasn't the best of moms, but uh it is what it is. And uh her great-grandfather was uh a British brigadier, like in the military, so high-ranking brigadier, and was best friends with uh President Eisenhower and General Patton. So I'm not sure, probably wasn't president during that time, but uh anyhow, uh while they were in the military. So told me a few stories when her both of them went to her grandmother's place, uh great-grandmother's place for uh for supper, and uh would complain that I think Eisenhower would always put his uh his gun on the table and uh whatever. Oh and um yeah, well stories basically. Um now yeah, so we um eventually so she comes back to to Canada. The the second night she was at my place. We start we first night we did a C5. I didn't know satellites moved into orbit. I thought they were uh stagnant and didn't move. So when we I realized, hey wow, lights are moving in the air. Like I didn't know anything, basically. I was in UB. The second night now we uh had these uh bed covers that we put on the front lawn, and uh this we're standing. This was in August of 2013, mid-August, around 9 45. So we've been like doing a C5 for at least an hour. Everybody was outside. It was fairly hot. The neighbors' kids were outside, and uh we're just talking to the universe basically basically. We're doing like greer type of uh kadush, kadush, kadush, I don't sabayath type of thing, and uh we're just trying to bring in the craft. After 45 minutes, we're just looking in space. Well, just above basically the uh my neighbor's house. And we this 10 feet wide orange, red, I call it lollipop orange, craft. So imagine uh a roundish egg, not a tic-tac, not a sphere, so a roundish egg. Fly in maybe 40 feet above the power lines. So that's close. I could have thrown a rocket. It glides, no sound whatsoever. Everybody was outside, nobody saw it. I did a flyby because we're calling it. The whole thing lasted a bit about a minute because it continued down its path. And I thought, oh, this is amazing. I thought this, oh, is this does this happen to everyone? Is that does this happen each time we call them? And uh of course not, but we we did other C5s. Now I we didn't have any missing time for those that might be uh have that question, but we did other C5s, and we sometimes it was this huge star, and I was looking at it, and I think I'm pretty sure that's a UFO. And as soon as I I say that, the star starts to shrink, tuk, tuk, duck, duck, duck, then starts moving down to the south, and and sometimes like over ahead, we'd see this really fast star, and then it disappears and it appears over our head. Now, seven days after that, seeing that red UFO, she had to go somewhere, and I'm getting chills. Uh so I'm at my parents' house by the lake, and I do a C5. Now, being close to the woods by the lake, there's a lot of mosquitoes. So I had to uh I had to basically like do a fast walk around the house while doing the C5 for an hour. The mosquitoes were catching up basically. So after an hour, nothing's happening. So I'm a bit sad, and I thought, okay, well, they came for them, being you know, being a child abductee, and uh because she would complain to her grandfather that she was being taken up at night, that had their stuff done to her belly button. So uh be me, I would sleep against the wall, but she asked her grandfather to sew their top pajama and her bottom pajamas together in hopes that they won't get to her belly button, let's say. You know, stuff like that. So after like doing my C5, I go back inside for like five minutes, talk to my mom and dad, and just to you know, take a short break. I go outside and as soon as I step off the front porch, I get the feeling to look up, and the timing was impeccable. As soon as I look up, the same craft appears over my head, just above the just above the tree line, and it flew. And having seen it, okay, I'm in awe, but I'm used to it now. Like, okay, wow, it's there, I'm happy. But I get the idea, go get your parents. So I run back inside. My mom being into angels, she's out a lot faster. She sees it up close. My dad, more down to earth, doesn't give a damn. A cup of wine comes out a few moments later, he looks at it, oh, it's a plane. SOB started getting contact after that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he started, uh, his mom passed away uh maybe a year or two prior to that. He started getting body taps at night, and he'd wake up with a shadow being right beside his bed. He would also, when my mom passed away, not like I'll get into that, also he he heard while he was out doing uh like a painting contract, he heard a female voice say, Woo-hoo, at night just to wake him up. Also, within uh within my my dad's house by the lake, he he had a bad cold, so he was sleeping downstairs in the uh the guest bedroom, and as soon as he wakes up during the night, he sees a a golden four-inch orb fly in from the bedroom window. Come in through the window and fly from one into the the bedroom and then back. He tried to grab it, it either went through his hand or above it, but the the golden four-inch orb had this weird wonky moving energy inside it, and eventually it came out the window. And also in 2009, yeah, no, 2019, sorry, my dad, he eventually had to, when my mom passed away, he moved to another town where I'm at right now. But yeah, when I was I was in another town when did this happen? He calls up and he says, Yeah, I woke up and there there was this weird-looking clown in the bedroom looking at him. He tried to kick it, uh went through it, but um he says it was a clown, but it didn't look like a clown. It was tr someone trying to look like a clown. So basically a gray screen image of a clown. And not being a like from Earth, they don't know what clowns really look like. So they he tried to portray itself as a clown. So those are my dad's experiences. Now okay, so I called that craft to just to backtrack a bit, all my life I felt as if there was this female watching over me. Now, this this is really important. And when I was a kid, uh uh I'm not sure if you guys saw the movie The Child of Glass. It's a Disney movie from the 80s. And this is a story of a young boy and his family moving onto a plant an old plantation, and that house hosted the ghost of a young child that was murdered by her dad on the property. And long story short, that he had to he befriended this ghost, female ghost. He found his uh the thing is her soul was trapped in a glass doll within the the old well in one of the bricks in the in the well, they found the doll was hiding there. So by I think breaking the doll, her spirit was released and uh pretty uh dark for a uh a Disney movie, but Disney, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

The 80s, can I tell you?

SPEAKER_05 38:03

They were a little older back then.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Now I was traumatized after that, seeing that for all my life. I only saw it once, only parts of it. I remember that, and I was really traumatized, and I didn't know why. And then uh I started having this sort of contact when I was in my my new uh modular home. I remember I was sleeping, I realized I'm on the floor. I'm sleeping, but some somehow I know my body's in the bed. So my my spirit was lying on the floor. Now I hear with my ears or whatever, and I hear a lady's voice say, What are you doing on the floor? And I feel like somebody's hugging me. And I feel love, uh, like love, love, love, love. Your your entire essence really feels a love. And I feel as if I'm being dragged back into my body. Another time I went to uh I'm so stressed out, my stomach hurts. Uh I went to see my um I I asked for a race, and my my boss got me so stressed out that I puked at the office. So my secretary brings me back home and uh I was so ill that I slept in front of the the toilet just in case I puked. I fall asleep on the floor and eventually get I wake up and I go back to bed. Now my I had a heart problem at the time and my heart was beating really, really fast. Now I fall back asleep, but this time I realize I'm in the my bedroom corner in a feel position, but I I know my body's in the bed. And I hear the door open up and I turn around, I look at the door, and the door's still closed. Turn again back my head to the corner in a field position on the floor, and I feel like a hand plunging in through my the back, my back, and grab my heart. And as soon as I did that, my heart started to slow down to eventually a point I got dragged back into my body. I woke up the next morning like nothing happened.

unknown 39:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

No, this this this okay, this was this sort of sort of female type of energy, okay. And I'll I'll leave it uh as if well, I'll come back to it later on. Now I'm dating this child, uh Abducti from England, and um a bit prior to that, she did uh sort of like a river cleansing type of thing with a crystal. We went back to it, and for some reason at the time, back in 2012, she had to seed that crystal there for some reason. We go back to it, and she plunges her hand in the river and she gets it. It was still there. But from that moment on, because we were like really alone together, that's where we sort of like fell in love. And it was sort of meaningful because she had to go back there with me to get it. So eventually, like we uh were supposed to get married. So she became my fiancee. So within my house, there's a lot of like weird energy type of things going on. We'd wake up and uh our our cells were moving, and it was really painful to go back to sleep. I wake up, this was I think December of 2013. I was sleeping in the bed, but the bed was right beside the bedroom doorway. And in the doorway, I see this about five and a half by three and a half ish long, width, white um oval, black oval. I thought it was a black disc, and it wasn't, it didn't have any depth to it, it was just just uh a length and a width, nothing 3D-ish, but that I realized it was probably like a black hole that looked like an oval. And when I see that, it doesn't take long for my brain to register it as something that was in the air, nothing was holding it, it looked like a darkish matte gray type of color, and uh the light switch was just above me, so I switch it on, the light turns on, my fiance wakes up in a panic and she says, What's going on? What's going on? I turn on, I tell her, I just saw a black hole in the doorway. And so she says, No, I'm not waking up because of you. A man, remember, she's also psychic, she's got abilities. A man was telling her the word EMP, electromagnetic pulse, non-stop. That woke her up. At the same time, I'm seeing this black hole now. We're we're stressed out now, you know, because we've we've had stuff happen to us. Uh after like half an hour, we eventually fall back asleep. Now, so I'm always sleeping on my left side, so I'm facing the bedroom entrance basically. I wake up and I'm looking down towards the uh the floor, and I feel like there's movement coming in through the doorway where the black hole was. But I black out. This time I wake up and I'm facing her. And so imagine the drapes are closed, but there's enough sun and moonlight and and lamplight coming from outside in the living room beside my door, coming into the bedroom. So without my glasses, I still can see the inside the bedroom. And so I imagine I wake up and I'm drugged up. Imagine coming out of anesthesia. I'm really drugged up, but I'm conscious. In front of the bed and on her side of the bed, I'm seeing these six-foot-tall, very broad-shouldered shadow beings, totally black. I'm only seeing the silhouette, broad shoulders, see-through. They're blacker than the night, but see-through. Because I could see the uh my bedroom closet. And they're six foot tall. And where uh a neck would be, I'm seeing these very broad, uh, very uh huge round helmet on their shoulders. They're all identical. And with some effort, or considerable effort, I might add, I'm able to raise my hand to say hi. I wasn't really stressed out, really. Um as soon as I do that, I black out. I wake up, I realize I'm standing on my feet. I'm I'm standing and I'm looking towards my feet. They're barefoot, I'm wearing hospital robes, and I suspect I might have been like uh knowing what I know now, that in uh when people get taken, they're all like walking in a singular row. I I suspect that that was me right now. But I I I woke up and I blacked out eventually. But I still remember that. So yeah, that was the uh one of the uh the the weirdest things. I some people might call it in my lab. I have no idea, but uh yeah. I I I spoke a lot. Do you have any questions?

SPEAKER_03 44:10

Oh my god, I am overwhelmed right now with all have you written a book?

SPEAKER_00 44:15

Yeah, people have asked me that in the past, but I don't have a like a closing story or answers. It's just stuff that happens. It's it's like uh, you know, they're basic experiencer type of stuff, really. Stuff happens to you all the time, you don't know what's why, and yeah, you just gotta deal with it.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

Wow, that's a lot.

SPEAKER_05 44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:35

When you say shadow people, are they different than what the paranormal community calls shadow people?

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Yeah, um, they were just totally black. Yeah, they didn't like have like black energy about them. Uh they didn't have uh like the the the shadow man with you know the the black hat. No all identical. Uh I suspect basically is that when they're you're in between realms, you you can see them, but they can see you but part of them. Yeah, you see just part of them. So they might have been like it could have been like uh technology. Uh uh, yeah, I don't know. But yeah, they were in between. But uh probably that's when they came in through the portal. Because I had uh other like an experiencer from uh Sally from the the from Australia that she had she saw a uh uh uh like a six-foot-tall black portal, let's say, that with people walking into it. So mine might have been small and then it grew, then people came out. That's what I suspect. I just caught it at a bad time, let's say. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

So So So what how do you feel about all this? I mean, is it something that you just embrace and or is it something that kind of freaks you out or no okay?

SPEAKER_00 45:54

No, because I I was brought into this. I have I had stuff all my life happen to me. Yeah, imagine if somebody would have these experiences all of a sudden and would be like really intense nonstop, you'd go crazy. Yeah. So having a born into this family, having a lot of ghost stuff happened to them. So the the paranormal was a thing. So uh and and I felt I think it felt normal for some reason.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

Yeah, that makes that makes sense because I didn't start having memories of experiences until I was in my twenties. So, and it freaked me out. But had I remembered things that happened to me when I was a little child like you, I think, yeah, that makes sense that it would be kind of like normal.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Now, to get back to the uh the lady that seems to be following me. Now, again, this all has to be you have to think of the the child of glass, why I was traumatized. Now, to describe how she looked like, imagine uh so this was uh like in the early 1900s, let's say this happened. But she was wearing these weird 1800s pajamas, very fluffy, something you'd see in uh parts of the Caribbean type of thing. So I saw that, and that really traumatized me. Now, was I dating my fiance at the time? I can't recall, probably not, because I was alone. Now, I'm on my back, my eyes are closed, but I'm conscious. But I started feeling body taps, slight taps up my leg, starting from my toes, slowly up my leg. And when it came to my hip area, that's when everything, like in I'm getting like a third eye vision type of thing, but this was as if I'm I'm looking at you guys, the same thing, but my eyes are closed. In my mind, I see this blonde lady. So imagine Olivia Newton-John from the work the film Xandadu. She, I think she was the uh the daughter of Zeus in that movie, and uh there's a scene where she's wearing white, like this white, weird old white gown or type of pajama with blonde hair down to her uh her shoulders. So I mean I'm seeing the exact same thing, but I'm being showered with love. So I'm I'm paralyzed from the love. Every cell in my body felt the love. And I thought, okay, am I dead? Am I dead? Is this heaven? So that's how I could compare it to. I call it love radiation for all intents and purposes, but she says to me, Do you want to come with me? Now, as soon as she said that, I I uh to me I thought she was an E.T. And I thought to myself, okay, well, my mom's gonna miss me. So I said, My mom's gonna miss me if I come with you. And then she starts showering me with sadness. So all of my cells felt her sadness. I thought, oh no, what did I do? What did I do? And then she says out of the blue, are you good with motors? I thought, well, this is strange. Why would an E.T. ask me if I'm good with motors? I've got a rheumatoid arthritis in one hand, and I showed her my arthritic fingers, and I said, I'm sorry, I can't help you with your motor. I thought she was talking about her UFO motor.

unknown 48:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

If I was good with repairing them, and I said, I know I can't help you with that. And she's she showers me with uh sadness again, and then she disappears in a backwards motion. Now I wake up the next day, and this happened like a few hours after that. Now, this was uh again in December of 2013. It was very cold outside because I had to go to the uh to the grocery store and get food, and so I might my truck uh was the uh at the time it was a Nissan Extera, and I tried to start it from afar out because we had this uh had a long distance starter installed and it didn't want to start. So I thought, okay, the battery's probably dead, I forgot to plug it. So I put it on a charger for three hours, try to start it, doesn't want to start. So I called my dad and says, uh go go underneath the truck and start tapping your starter to just to see if it's faulty. So I go underneath with all the snow, tap it for like 20 minutes, go inside the truck, try to start it. After like 20 minutes, I mean it starts again. So I said, okay, that's the starter's faulty. I had it, I needed to get it repaired. As soon as I go back inside, that's when it hits me. She wasn't asking me if I was good with UFO and orders. She was asking me if I was good with truck motors. Both events happened way too close together. That I knew she was telling me if something that was gonna happen in the future. And just to show me that her visit actually happened. Yeah. So that was that was something. Wow. Also dreamt uh in that house that uh was being introduced to the little people. Uh this happened only once, but I suspect I was in a soul because I can't remember seeing my my hands or feet or anything. But imagine like I'm like maybe like a few inches tall, I'm in the woods, I'm being introduced to the little people in the woods. So I remember like seeing a twig or a branch coming down like that, and the uh the grass was a bit tall, and I'm seeing these small people in front of me. And that was really like a really powerful dream. But so regarding the uh the lady in white, because all my life I remember walking in my my parents' living room. I'm trying to remember, I'm forgetting someone, I'm forgetting someone all my life, all my life. And then then you put this child of glass uh lady in white that for some reason I was traumatized all my life of that image, and then I'm seeing the exact female but adult form in in white. I thought, okay, well, I was somehow I'm connected to that that lady. Was it like a guardian angel or something? I don't know. But as soon as I sort of made the connection to that, I stopped like being traumatized from that of that like movie figure, and uh I haven't really thought about it since, but it's just like a weird coincidence. But my mom eventually passes away not too long after that. My fiance was at the uh in England back back when it happened, and my mom, I was speaking to her on the phone when my mom was still in the hospital and her soul appeared to her while she was on the loo on the toilet, and she's my mom said to her, Please take care of my boy, he has no one else. And uh like not too long after that, they unplugged her, and um she uh so she comes back. I sent I gave her like a a note to give customs or immigration to help her come through and uh to help me with my dad. So while I'm at my dad's the first night we so we slept in the the the basement where my dad saw the uh the golden orb. My fiance wakes up at night and starts, go get a piece of paper quick, and a pen. So she starts writing down the entire page when she was finished. The thing is my my mom was talking to her while she slept. And while she was writing things down. So three-quarters is a page, my fiance was trying to write in French what my mom was saying. Trying to read what she wrote, she's like, she's British, she doesn't speak a word of French, but I could make out words in French.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Eventually at the bottom, she says, uh, I don't understand a word of French, speak to me in English. So my mom starts speaking to her in English, and the last like few lines she's she writes down, look in the drawer by the window. So the next day we we show this to my dad, and we start poking around, opening up drawers. That there's a drawer by the patio uh window where uh the TV was on. We open it up and we find my mom's dream diary. The second to last entry was my mom dreaming, having a private prophetic dream about her dying, but she didn't know she was gonna die. My mom wanted us to know that she dreamt about it. How the dream goes, okay. So, like I said, my father's mom passed away not too long before that, and there's a lot of uh bad things happening to and fro to uh within my dad's family. A lot of hate. So my mom's dreaming, and within my dad's house, she's in the bedroom. Outside, there's a huge patio, and spirits were trying to get into the house. My grandmother, my dad's mother, that was there speaking to her. And uh she's other souls want to talk to you, but again, she's she's there for my mom. She eventually finds out that she's gonna get a procedure done on her chest, but not to worry about it. Everything's gonna be okay. But she falls back asleep, she wakes up, she falls back asleep, and she gets back into the dream again. The same dream. My grandmother's still her grand, my grandma, yeah, my grandmother's still there, her mother-in-law, and other souls were there. What's this thing with the procedure? Oh, don't worry, everything's gonna be okay. Not too long, a few months after that, my mom dies. She caught a superflu at the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 54:54

When just for my dad was there for a checkup, he had a like a nasal problem type of inflammation. Needed uh some cortisone or whatever, I don't know. And uh he would they were just there for like a routine checkup, and she caught a super bug there, and they never closed the hospital. How strange. Within two days, she was dead. They put antivirals in her so strong that the the doctor said that this could kill an elephant, and they didn't want to kill the bug, but they never closed the hospital. How strange. Uh, anyhow. So, yeah, so my uh my fiance at the time had contact with my mom, and uh so yeah, that was uh that was something. And uh my my dad somehow misplaced the paper. I could have tried to decipher it, somehow it disappeared. When yeah, and we thought when he's gonna move, he's gonna find it, and we he never find he never found it. So I'm not sure if he put it, he doesn't know if he put it in the trash bin being devastated or it disappeared on its own. We don't know. Wow now, uh yeah, a lot of stuff happened. Um also, so she eventually her six months was up, she had to go back to the UK. Prior to that, uh again, I had remote toid arthritis, the company I was working for went broke. Uh I couldn't find a job fast enough and I had to sell my house. But lucky enough, it's as if the universe wanted me to sell my house because I was there for my dad to take care of him. So I moved in with my dad. She goes back to the UK. Six months later, I had contracts, but I didn't find a proper job. Uh, she eventually leaves me. Now I was really devastated. I wanted to die, I wanted to take my life. This didn't make sense because it's as if the universe was pointing me to her through the medium, and she wakes me up regarding my experiences, and so the uh having her leaving me uh totally killed me. Uh for the entire month, I think this was in March. March or May? I think it's March of 2015. So the for the entire month I would email her and she never responded. One la uh one last so this near the end of the month, I was taking care of my dad's puppy. I helped him find a girlfriend. I was babysitting the puppy. I cry out to the universe, I was crying, and why, why, why, why, why, why? This didn't make sense at all. Nothing made sense of it. Why, why, why, why? I write to her one last email. Uh, I made this nice montage. So within that email, I say to her, like, thanks for the memories. Uh when we when she was around the world, we emailed each other and it was uh like a good thing. Can't remember all the words, but something to that extent, and uh that's it. So, so this was around 6 p.m. Eastern time when I wrote this. So she writes back at around 7:30 Eastern time. So that's five hours later UK time. This was past midnight. She was sleeping. She says, Yan, what's wrong? I wake up and I see this email and I tell her the story. Oh, that's okay. But it says, Yan, I was sleeping and a a voice cries to me with urgency, wake up now, while she was sleeping. Not too long before me, crying to the universe, like why, why, why? And I tell her the story. Um, you don't understand. This voice was female and alien. Now I'm gonna go get a cup of tea, because I'm startled. The female said to send protection now, so I'm sending you protection. So we sort of made up basically, and uh, we spoke a year later after that. But uh, so yeah, so that just adds to my that feel you know, the female telling me about my brother's child, that the lady in white, and then this this sort of female again that's been watching over me that woke her up from across a pond in the UK, so we could sort of uh mend things, I suppose, or not having me hang myself, I don't know. No, that yeah, it is what it is, but yeah, it's it's a nice story, but it comes with a price.

unknown 59:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Uh any questions regarding that?

SPEAKER_04 59:10

Well, we're almost out of time. I would like to ask you if you have had any recent experiences.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

I've been doing C5 since moving here, and uh last Wednesday, so we are Saturday today. So a few days ago, uh me and my new girlfriend, who's also an experiencer, we probably got abducted the night prior to us meeting for the first time. I was at the hotel and her at her parents' place, and we had the same abduction event. Our more recent thing was we were doing a C5, and as soon as I hopped on the patio, I see this red and green flashing lights. And at first I thought it was a plane flying in just above the city, like really close, like a few a few streets down. We're seeing it from the side, but that thing was moving hell fast. Imagine like throwing uh Occupy on a frozen pond, that thing glided. No sound whatsoever. And that thing was from one side. I live in a huge city, so from one city to the other, I could see it at the other end. And it was moving really fast. Is it whoa that's no no no, that's a UFO. That's a UFO. So I've only seen like huge golden, like you know, the round orbs and other like I get lots of contact moving here in the air. And as soon as it got to the end of the city, I uh I'm looking at it, and then perpendicular turn starts, moves, it was in a straight line, then moves to the south. Oh, and uh that's either a really big, it's either like man-made, those little uh drones, drones, yeah, the drones. But that would have been like a plane-sized drone. Uh-uh. With two like really like flat, big red and green flashes. And my my new girlfriend says, you know, they were at the back. She believes it was a triangle, and the lights at the back of the triangle were flashing. So as soon as it flies down to the south, then it comes back to it, starts moving in again, another 90-degree angle, starts moving toward the east, but starts going up this time. And uh then it went and it went in orbit really fast, but not like a spectacular, like like transportation type thing. It went really fast, but you could see it. Then it comes down and we start talking to it, and it starts coming towards us. It starts moving away, or showering. Uh hey, we're so glad you're here, blah blah blah. We have give our names and uh then it stops and starts moving left and right. Comes towards us, it comes back, left and right, then it goes down to where the south, and then you see it down, down, down, down, and then I couldn't see it because of the houses. That the whole thing lasted at least 10 minutes.

unknown 1:01:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

Yeah, so that's my latest thing. That's crazy. But that's about it for now.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Oh my gosh, that's a lot. Yeah, you've had a lot of experiences. Yeah, you've got so many people on the other side and ETs that are protecting you and loving you and always with you. And oh my gosh, you are so protected. Jan, you are so so protected. Your mom, too. Oh my gosh. Your mom, she's she's like your biggest fan, your mom.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

You were very close, so yeah, having her go was a bit difficult. To say the least.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:31

Yeah, I'm very, very close to my son, and hearing your story just breaks my heart with your mom. I mean, it's just it's so sad. But at the same time, it's beautiful. Your relationship with her is absolutely beautiful, and it and it's not over. It's it will never be over. Your mom, your mom is always, oh man, she is she is your biggest.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

There's a quick story. Um back when I meditated a lot, because I I believe they're the ones that pushed me to do this type of thing, to start talking and doing my show. We didn't get it to that, but Pat Jackson, uh past guest of mine, said uh to a dream that I had, I'm in orbit, I'm looking downwards to the to the planet. I thought at first I was on the on the moon. Beside me was my mom, beside her was my dad. But for some reason that I knew it wasn't my dad, so portraying himself as my dad, but somebody else was behind it. He felt a bit grumpy, and uh but we were happy, we were coming down towards the planet. And I told her the story and she says, Yeah, and that's a holding area. You were in a holding area. So either spirit-wise or I uh was I on a craft looking down. So I imagine I'm I'm looking towards a planet, but in front of me, it's as if I was looking through a white bed sheet covers on a c on a clothesline when the floor with the uh the covers would be moving in, like to and fro, when in between two cup bed covers, I'd see the earth. So that's how I saw it. For some reason. I don't know what it means, but I'm in orbit.

unknown 1:04:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:02

Yeah, and thank you so much for sharing all of that. That was just fascinating. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:09

Yeah, there's more to it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:12

Yeah, well, we need a part two. Yeah, we do need a part two. Thank you so much for sharing uh your journey with us. How do people get in touch with you?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

Um through my YouTube channel email, which is uh experiencer.interviews at gmail.com. And uh yeah, so if they need to share anything, they could uh email me and we could talk. And uh yeah, so I do try to help people on the side when I can. Basically, like just having uh someone to talk to helps a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

Yeah. So yeah. I'm sure you're going to get a lot of questions. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:50

Thank you for your service, Jan.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

Oh, that's so nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:53

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