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The Fastest Growing Sport in America | Season 2 Ep. 11

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 🏈🔥 THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICA IS JUST GETTING STARTED.

In Season 2 Episode 11, The Winning Moments Show takes a deep dive into the incredible rise of Girls Flag Football and why the sport is on a path toward something special.

From Section One champions to future Olympians, we break down how girls flag football has exploded across New York and the entire country.

In This Episode:

🏆 Yorktown's State Championship Run
🏈 Mamaroneck, Scarsdale & Westlake's incredible seasons
🥇 The road to the 2028 Olympics
🎓 College scholarships and NCAA expansion
💰 NIL opportunities for athletes
🌎 International flag football stars you need to know
📈 Why this sport is growing faster than anyone expected

Plus, Coach Ward and John Claudio discuss what the future looks like for young athletes and why Girls Flag Football may become one of the biggest high school and college sports in America.

If you're a parent, athlete, coach, or sports fan, this is an episode you don't want to miss.

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⏱️ Chapters

0:00 – Knicks Finals Talk
9:15 – Welcome to the Show
13:15 – Girls Flag Football Championship Recap
20:35 – Yorktown Wins the State Title
28:40 – How Flag Football Started
37:05 – The Olympic Future of Flag Football
45:50 – College Scholarships & NCAA Growth
54:10 – Future Stars of the Sport
58:00 – Why the NFL Needs to Invest More
1:02:20 – Building the Next Generation of Athletes
1:05:15 – Summer Plans & Final Thoughts

SPEAKER_02

Well, good afternoon, everybody. Or good morning, right? On Friday. Didn't something take place in New York City about when was that? Day before yesterday.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, you as a Spurs fan should know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, no, no, we're doing that now. But he's coming filling the seats today. Claudio, let's go back to the videotape, shall we?

SPEAKER_00

Like Warner Wolf from New York, by the way, a true New Yorker who would always make sure that it means New York, legend. Unlike uh Coach Chris Ward here from Somerville, South Carolina. Home of the Green Wave. Who is a doubter? Not a hater. Not a hater. A doubter about our New York Knicks.

SPEAKER_02

I have a Spurs jersey coming for you, Coach. I appreciate it. Hope it's Mono Genoblies. Because he's lefty and Argentine. Yes. Um, how about them? Well, listen, we said it on the show, I think, last week or the week previous. The tougher, grittier team has been New York Knicks. Now, it didn't appear last year. Not according to Wemby when he's pointing it, I mean your head. Yeah, 29 down. But you but listen, I got the I had a coach in, I had a coach I didn't see the first half, which was a debacle on the you know, for the Knicks. I didn't see the first half, but I saw the second half. And you got the sense when they went on that first run, that 12 or 13-0 run that cut it to like 17. I'm going, well, let's see what it was with about three minutes left in the third quarter, and then he got to 14 or 15, whatever it was. I'm I I said to myself, you know what? They may have a shot to make it interesting. Did I think they were gonna win the game? No, I didn't think they were gonna win. But did they have a shot to make it interesting? Yes. And then San Antonio inexplicably stopped going and getting paint touches and started hoisting up, even though a couple of them were you know clean looks, they started hoisting up shots and they were missed. They got them, they was it was med driver you missed crazy. First of all, how about how about the De'Aaron Fox decision?

SPEAKER_00

Well uh at the end of the game. Let's why you would have had a heart attack on that court if that was uh for those of you who have not seen uh Coach Ward coach a live game, he would have had a he would have had a when we've got the ball in our hands, we don't we don't need a layup, we don't need to even do anything. Okay, make them fall us. I want to I want to I want to bring it back to this this youth high school sports show that we're producing here, the Word Moments. Okay, which by the way, uh please like and subscribe us on YouTube and Instagram, TikTok, wherever you're listening to this podcast, Spotify, the more fans and followers we can have, the more fans and followers we can introduce these young kids to. That's our goal and our mission.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

We did a TNT like, now inside the NBA, I believe ESPN has it like a halftime show. Absolutely at the County Center for this season's Section One Championship Boys. Unfortunately, because we praise all of the children, we can't be like uh Charles Barclay, although I do have the Charles Barclay haircut. Yes, you do. All right, great job. Looks good, looks good. I'm wearing uh I'm wearing my hat, so we uh we're not just fully twins. Charles Barclay said this on the inside the NBA post-game show, right there on the next floor. San Antonio is just dumb. They're just dumb. It was the dumbest basketball game ever to be played in the history of basketball. It was spot on. And he brought up something that would drive you absolutely insane. They're up by 29 points. Eight three-pointers in a row. Eight three-pointers in a row. In the third quarter, they shot 12 three-pointers. They went two for twelve. I saw it. Two for twelve.

SPEAKER_02

I saw it. It was amazing. I mean amazing and not in a good way. Amazing for the Knicks. Amazing for great for the Knicks, astonishing for everybody else that was watching the game or or or has an understanding of basketball the way that they needed to continue to play.

SPEAKER_00

I think everybody should also have an understanding of New Yorkers, okay? As a native New Yorker born in New York City, the the grit that you're born with, the energy, maybe it's the lead in the water, I don't really know, okay, why why this is the case. But when you come into our town, our home, and I don't care what the score is, and you start talking shit like this, I'm in your head, and when Webby said to Mitch, I'm in your head, all right. You might get in Mitch's head, but there's this guy. No one believed that he should get picked so high in the draft. No one thought he was that good in Dallas. There's a guy, this this this young man named Jalen Brunson. Who Ernie on the post-game show was great, was like, um every time someone asks me about Jalen Brunson, it's just one word I can describe with him. He wins. He was the MVP of the 19U USA team.

SPEAKER_02

He won twice in college, he won state championship in in high school. He just wins. He just he just gets it done. Um and he's he should have been first team all NBA. Um definitely. He should have been. Uh however, uh he just I mean, he's he just finds a way to get it done. And then OG uh has had a tremendous finals. I I can't even OG looks like an OG out there. I mean, he's he's unbelievable. And and and listen, they have three chances to win one game. They have three chances to win one game because it's not over yet.

SPEAKER_00

Like Kobe would say in that interview, that famous interview, when they asked him, uh, Kobe, are you hit why why did you look so down? You're up you're up in the series. It's not over. It's not over. What's to be excited about? We still got work to do.

SPEAKER_02

We still got work to do.

SPEAKER_00

With his mamba, with his mamba face iconic, rest in peace, Kobe. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

So uh so listen, I think it's gonna happen. I don't know if it happens in San Antonio um for game, you know, game five, but it's gonna happen. I I I I I don't want to jinx it, but I they have a really good chance to get the first one instead of the show.

SPEAKER_00

Kevin, who's not joining us today as he's taking a hiatus here uh until next week, he's the jinx of the show, coach. You're like a half a jinx. I'm half a jinx. When you agree with him, right? So yeah, uh listen, it's it's it's destiny, right? Destiny versus dynasty, as we we we said in the past that time frame.

SPEAKER_02

Kevin uses that all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Yep. So in this scenario, it is New York nick time. It it really is. I think it is our time.

SPEAKER_02

I think it I think it really is. I think there's I think they win the championship. Um it would it's gonna be it would be a monumental collapse, a collapse that we haven't seen in a long time. If they don't I don't think he says you want to be a jinx, he doesn't want to be a jinx claudio. I don't need to bring it in.

SPEAKER_00

Claudio, I don't let's just say what are you gonna say has never happened in the history of the NBA. No, I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02

Jeez, no, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. But like I said, I think they've got a shot at it.

SPEAKER_00

And um Do you know that you can go to San Antonio? You could have the night of the game, I looked at it. I'm sure you could have flown to San Antonio, spent stayed in San Antonio, went to the tickets in San Antonio, the whole thing would have cost you like five grand. How much how many people 3,500 to five grand, depending on where you wanted to do so, compared to paying for your Knicks tickets going to the Knicks game.

SPEAKER_02

How many people in New York are gonna go down to San Antonio? Is that tomorrow? Yes, tomorrow. You can't get a direct flight anymore.

SPEAKER_00

You can't get direct flight.

SPEAKER_02

All flights are sold out on the weekend? That place is gonna be mob by the. What a game. And then unbelievable game. Um the place was shaking. Mike Breen said uh they were the place was shaking. I would have no coach, I wasn't there. I know. I I mean you the place was going nuts.

SPEAKER_00

It was unbelievable. Um You guys can't see the face of our our uh executive producer here, Claudio, but uh he knows that I had tickets to the game. And as I said on the show last time, I had tickets to the game, and I didn't go, and I have no regrets. I spent that game watching it with my son, uh, his lovely girlfriend, and my daughter, who my daughter's a huge Knicks fan. She's texting the family chat. Did you see this? She's screaming, okay? Absolutely. She was only one in her class that was allowed to stay up for the entire game. Maybe that makes me a good parent, bad parent. I'm not really sure.

SPEAKER_02

But exactly. Makes me a Knicks fan. But I tell you this, you know, we talk about family. Had the opportunity yesterday to take my son and daughter to the Mets game.

SPEAKER_00

Um are you talking about your son who is now playing Pro Ball in Norway?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes. Well, he, you know, we have some good news that that um his club that he was with Eidsfall for his trial. You know, he had a three-game trial there in the world.

SPEAKER_00

It was average like 20, 20.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he did very well. He he did very well.

SPEAKER_00

Coaches like to brag about this young man, but this young man is a beast. If you haven't seen him out there, he's uh his Instagram, I think, is Chris Ward Jr.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Uh watch some of his workouts. It's it's in Saturday.

SPEAKER_02

He's yeah, he's ridiculous. And his Achilles is fully, fully knock on wood, healed. But his team received the financial support to go to first division. So he will be going in August with his team. Um, and they'll be playing first division, which is one level below the Premier League, the top league in Norway. So he's got a real shot to do very well. Um and he's got one when two of his guys from EuroPro basket are gonna out of Valencia are gonna be playing on the team with him. And his coach, his uh coach, Coach Tassos from Greece is there now and is running the program there. He coached Christopher, you're coached all those kids at Europe. They have a real chance to do something very special um over there in Norway initially domestically, and then we hope on the continent as they continue to get better and evolve and develop. And they're all 22 years of age.

SPEAKER_00

I do want to take this moment to thank uh our sponsor, Chris Ward Basketball, for flying over the Winnie Moments show, entire crew, so we can Chris Ward Jr.

SPEAKER_02

30 minutes, he's thirty minutes outside Oslo.

SPEAKER_00

Lisa, it's not because it's Mrs. Ward, Lisa Ward, it's not she who runs Chris Ward basketball. Absolutely. It's not because that Claudio only flies business class, but it's because that we, Claudio particularly, is like six foot three, so he needs to fly business class so it doesn't ruin his legs, and we can't leave him alone on there. So when you buy the tickets for us going to Norway for the winning moments to be on the move, yeah, we really want to thank you for uh for our first class tickets.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, absolutely. We're we'll we'll provide them. And then and then we'd be remiss not to talk about the big event that's happening throughout our country nationwide. Oh, I just hit hit the I don't want to hit the you mean tonight's pickleball tournament? No, not tonight's pickleball. The um the the World Cup started yesterday, very exciting. Um Mexico beat South Africa 2-0, and then a scinating match, South Korea and um oh my goodness. Chechia. Chechia 3-1. Uh South Korea had uh had a very good debut. So now we come to tonight, and it's the United States men's national soccer team versus a an always dangerous Paraguay team. I have zero expectations for our United States men's national team because when you're when you're talented but soft, talented and soft get you what? Beat. Get you your ass kicked. And that and that could definitely happen. And then we play the. Are you talking about the Spurs again? Yeah, no, I'm talking about our men's national team. And the sad thing is, I just watched the boys of '94 documentary. If our kids that we have now were as tough as those kids in, our team have a shot at being at least in the final four. I see nothing good happening. And we host, we'll be out in three games. It'll be it will we're gonna crash out, as they say, in soccer. I I'm so I'm gonna watch this thing tonight and I'm gonna try not to put my fist through the TV. Here you go, Claudio. Coach, go UA Go USA.

SPEAKER_00

Coach is all fired up to talk about uh World Cup, which here in America we call soccer, and over uh and the rest of the world, we call it football. And because of that word football. And and we're leading right into our football.

SPEAKER_02

We're leading right into it.

SPEAKER_00

Football now into American football. Right. Welcome back to the Woody Moment show. We are going to talk today's show about girls' flag football. Fastest growing sport in America. Amazing. We have some amazing things for you guys on this show. The whole show will be cultivated around girls' flag football. And all of the talent and things that are happening in this sport, uh, Coach and I are both girl dads. Of course, we are. Uh, Mia is uh actually, Mia can try out to play for the Olympic team in 2028. She's not too old for that. Maddie is only nine and a half, so I get right now just to get her started in this beautiful sport of girls' flag football. Coach, why don't we kick off with a quick update on the young ladies? You can see me. I'm wearing I'm wearing my uh my section one medal, the first ever medal that you can tap and relive all of the highlights of the championships. Thanks, Section One, the winning moments, putting that together. And I'm wearing this today, Coach, because the first ever medals that were given out that are interactive that you can tap were girls flag football.

SPEAKER_02

It's amazing. I mean, listen, you know, you you've you've created something, John, that nobody else has ever even thought about creating. You're you've you're you're on the cutting edge of of technology with regard to your vision of how the kids can have this, have their experience uh brought about with this medal. It's amazing, and it's amazing, and it's a credit to you. And I don't think um people understand the vision that you have for what you're gonna do. And I I'm just happy that, and I know Kevin is uh as well, I can speak for Kevin in this situation. We're very happy um that you had this vision for for high school sports in Section One, and and I know that we've had nothing but positive, um, nothing but positive response to it. So I really appreciate it. Appreciate you for having a vision to do this.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm only I'm only as good as my team, coach.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we we're all of us are only as good as our team. We got Jacob today, we got Claudio that we always have with us, and Jacob was very helpful, and and and you know, and then Kevin and all of our interns and all the people that help us uh make this show successful. But um, but you started this. You're the one that said, you came to me and said, We're gonna do I'm like, Well, I don't know, we're gonna do this. So appreciate it. And like I said, you got the medal on, and the first interactive medal of its kind in the country.

SPEAKER_00

It's true, it is the first one. But I love about it is like, listen, kid, kids create the moments. Yes, they do. Parents, uh, all the media that we had helped capture those moments, and reliving the moments is really what it's about. Uh, we had so many great moments in those section championships, watching those three games. We covered it a lot. So I don't want to dive deep into it, but I do want you to give us an update. How did our girls represent uh coming out of section one? After they won the section.

SPEAKER_02

After they won the section. So after they won the section, um in the state regional semis, because we had two teams uh from our section, both Scarsdale and Mamarick, both qualified for the state regional semifinals. Union Endicott is a machine, offensive scoring machine. They they they scored 45. Scarsdale, known for their being more of a defensive team this year, could not keep scoring with them. They scored 21 points, but you know, you've got to score if you're gonna play a team at that level, you've got to score as much as that team. Yeah, those are video game numbers. Yeah, you've got to be able to call it. I mean, 45 points state regional semifinal. So Scarsdale had a great year, um, nonetheless, but their season ended in the state regional semifinals. Also on the other side of Bracken, the state regional semifinals, Mamarinick loses a heartbreaker 14 to 12 uh uh to to Middletown, right up the line. But but but she she the Shermanator. The Shermanator Shermanator got Sarah Sherman, unfortunately, got injured in the course of that game. Yeah. Um obviously that that impacted them. You know, that impacted memory.

SPEAKER_00

She's the center of that defense, she's a linebacker in that center.

SPEAKER_02

You know, 14-12. It's a it's a heartbreaker. Um, and but their season, you know, they had a great season. We're we're hoping and and wishing um Sarah Schoenerman a uh every you know a speedy recovery, and we sent out uh good vibes and good wishes, best wishes to her with regard to the injury situation. Um and then the Westlake girls got to the state semifinals and lost to a solid Shoreham Wading River team and a heartbreaker 14 to 8. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say obviously Shoreham Waiting Rivers defense was phenomenal because no nobody's held Westlake to eight points this year. I mean, I I don't think they've held Westlake to 28 points this year until until this game. You know, they beat Ryan Beck in the game before 26-20 in a in a um in a in a nail biter, but this you know, 14-8, Sharm Waiting Rivers defense must have been phenomenal to hold Westlake to eight.

SPEAKER_00

I don't have the stat sheet in front of me, but I remember reading that I think uh I think Juju. All right, Julie Juliana Dean.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

First of all, shout out to her mom. She's very active with us on social media. Yes, she is. Uh she she updates on a lot of stuff. We really appreciate that. Yes, we do. Uh she's part of the mom's moms love football group. Absolutely. I believe she had uh something around 198 rushing yards, 78 or so passing yards. Uh I think she had one TD, was part of the TD. Yep. Uh, but threw two interceptions. I mean, for that young girl. Sophomore. I love I love her nickname, Juju. For that young girl, okay, to go out there, play that well, and then still still lose, you know, not only only score eight points. I mean, you're right.

SPEAKER_02

The team defense had to be amazing. Fantastic. And and and by the way, they're most of those girls are going to be back for Westlake. They're key players, core. Although uh West Cliff Bri Westlake Briar Cliff Briar Cliff. We got to make sure it's Westlake Briarcliffe. Most of the girls from Westlake Briarcliffe are going to be back. Yeah. Yes, you know. Um, so it'll be it, you know, and then we had we did have a state champion. State champion coming out of section one. Yes. Coach Rasigno and his staff. 30 to 14 over Fayetteville Manleus from up up the up by the Syracuse area. Uh they were set state champions 30 to 14. Um, Coach Rasigno, Sophie, and uh and the and crew got it done. Sophie and the crew got it done. I mean, they won a state championship, and uh at least we had it, we had, you know, listen, our section is strong, it's only gonna get better. Um but Yorktown comprehensively was really good this year. And I and and I'll say this the the de facto game to get the state championship took place in section one between Yorktown and Tappan Z. Had Tappen Z beaten Yorktown, I think Tappan Z would have won the state championship as well. This it would have been the same outcome. I agree. I agree with you. So very that that division was was ridiculous. Ridiculous. So both teams could have won it. So we're uh congratulations to Yorktown and Coach Rasigno and his crew, and uh that young lady's only sophomores. I know.

SPEAKER_00

So I know they're great too. Listen, let's let's let's talk about girls play football. Yeah, let's go. Coach, do you do you know where flag football was basically invented?

SPEAKER_02

I have I have zero idea. I have no idea about the history, which which is stunning because normal calls. Because normally stump coach. Normally like I like like an Australian rules football thing, uh, you know, or something like that. I could I, you know, some random thing I can I know something about. Not in this case, I know nothing about it. So um we're here to we're here to educate some people today and and move on.

SPEAKER_00

I think Coach would love this because he's a he's a history buff. Uh I believe, I believe you did study history of the industry.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, government history at the University of South Carolina upstate. Insist on university, insist on upstate. No, insist on university, insist on upstate was our motto back in the day.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. Uh Coach, it was started by some of the toughest humans ever to walk this face of earth. And I say that because what they went through during World War II was probably some of the I mean most horrific things that a human had to go through and fight through. Uh back then because it was basically hand-to-hand combat. You better believe it. These uh these young men that went out there that that helped us create the world that we live in today. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_02

The greatest generation.

SPEAKER_00

Greatest generation. We appreciate you guys for that. Uh those who are still around or those who aren't, you know, the kids, remember your parents. We uh we started there in the 1940s on a military basis to keep the boys active. They decided to play football because it was a big, big part of our culture. But they couldn't get injured, they couldn't get injured. So they basically invented flag football in the 1940s on the military basis uh here in the States and around the world uh before they had to actually help save the world. Absolutely. Absolutely. So it's it's literally saved the world. Literally. And it's interesting because I don't uh how do we go from the 1940s, men developing flag football, into what is your best guess when we started gross flag football?

SPEAKER_02

Honestly, I would have said that it was started in the 1990s. That's what I would have said 1990s, late, you know, late night late 1990s, early part of the century.

SPEAKER_00

You mean you wouldn't be far off. I mean, the first the first women's association, first female women's association for girls' flag football was in 1995. All right, so that's not far off. But the sport itself for girls flag football, which blew my mind, started in 1975. 1971 was the first girls' flag, women's women's league, first women's league in Philadelphia in 1971. The first tournaments ever to be held in America for women's flag football was 1972.

SPEAKER_02

That's amazing. That's I didn't know when it stretched that far back. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know. Some of the women that we're gonna talk about today, I had no idea that there were titles they won. I mean, this is the ignorance, ignorance of us in sports. Absolutely. If it's not produced or shown by the media, we don't know. We don't know about it. And back then, I mean, in 1971 and 74, which uh coach was uh I was seven years old in 71.

SPEAKER_02

I was 10 years old in 74. Captain and Teneal had the had the number one hit in the country. Love will keep us together. Anyway, continue. How does that go? Yeah. I'm not no. Come on, I can't. I can't get up. I can't get up with Tony Teneal like that. She she had a guy, she had that great voice. I can't do that.

SPEAKER_00

Coach coach coach's karaoke is we need a karaoke. What do you mean's karaoke night? Led by the coach.

SPEAKER_02

Seven and ten years old. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

So then uh 1995, they founded the first Women's National Association. And then 2003 was the first state to actually sanction it for high school. When but now when it became girls' flag football, okay, high school and below. In 2003, Florida uh made it the first state to sanction high school girls' flag football. So thank you for Florida for giving us some positive stuff these days, uh, other than the Florida man and uh other crazy crazy things in Florida. All right. Welcome to Florida. Welcome to Florida. Love Florida, though.

SPEAKER_02

I still love Florida.

SPEAKER_00

Do love Florida. We'd love it there. Absolutely. Happy to do the winning moments in Florida, just invite us down, coaches. Yep. 2023 is when it was approved. Now, did you know that it's gonna be an Olympic sport, coach?

SPEAKER_02

Only because you told me. I I I mean, well, I and I also saw where they they put it on the ticker down below on the TV with the ESPN saying that it was going to be an officially an Olympic sport. They voted it in by the uh International Olympic Committee, otherwise known as the IOC. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So in 2028 in LA, we were gonna have the first ever women's championship, women's championship, women's Olympics for uh women's flag football. The men will have it too, uh, but women's flag football is now an Olympic sport. So really, when you think about this young sport, 1995, the first association ever ever created, 2003, really, is when we're talking about it starting. Yes. And in basically 20 plus years, 23 years, 23 years, five now, on the 25th anniversary of the year.

SPEAKER_02

They'll be in the Olympics. And the evolution since 2003 to now is is is incredible. Credible.

SPEAKER_00

You think about our section one interviews, uh AD from Tap and Z, Bill Pila, he uh he told us he's the chair of the section one girls uh flag football. They started with like four teams, and now they'll be up to 35, 36 teams going into next year.

SPEAKER_02

It's amazing. It's amazing. And and and they're we're not done, obviously. No. I think I think by the time I think within the next five years, almost every school will have flag football on the girls' side for sure. I think that I think there's no doubt about that they'll have it. Um the question will be with regard to the smaller schools and and traditional strong programs in those schools in the spring, how will that impact them? And it can and will there be enough athletes at the smaller schools to be able to still have a competitive lacrosse team, softball team, and uh and bring in flag football. Well, they'll have to have to combine, they'll have to combine schools, definitely. Yeah, I think you'll you'll see the merger like like with West uh Briarcliffe Westlake.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. But I also think like softball and uh lacrosse, two sports we covered in the Section One championships this spring. Uh there's a lot of girls. There's a lot of girls in those teams, so so they can spare some for the girls' flag football team.

SPEAKER_02

But I think it's I think it's amazing what's going on. And and Bill Pill has got such a vision for this. I mean, when he brought up, I don't want to get ahead. Well, I stopped. But when you're gonna talk about it, we'll talk about it. Bring it in. Bring it in right now, Coach. So Coach Pillow, Coach Pillow, I call him Coach Pilla because he coached forever. And Bill um brought up the fact that he can foresee a Big Ten championship in in flag football at the collegiate level and have 25, you know, 20 to 25,000 people see that, or or the SEC championship down where I'm from, or the ACC championship, or the Big Ten championship up here, that the vision is going to be, you know, and then you're gonna have a national champ. Well, I mean, you know, like a like like uh you know, a bracket, you know, we'll have bracketology like Kevin does, and we'll have the brackets, you'll have the regions and a whole nine yards. That's that's where this is going. Um at at you know, and it'll be and it'll be covered by the media, and they'll have a television, NCAA will have a television contract, and and you know, it'll be another spring sport that we'll see on TV.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it it it it definitely will. And if you want to follow girls flag football, make sure you like and subscribe across all of our social medias. We're actually gonna have a report coming out uh for girls flag football for parents to be able to if you haven't if you haven't put your daughter in girls flag football, we'll give you a whole checklist of how to get started. If you already are in high school playing it, we'll give you a checklist of how to build your Instagram to get to college and college. We also have some great things for there as well. Speaking of college, they boarded up, coach, Nebraska, big 10 program. Okay. Nebraska is one of the top 10 schools that put in Girls Flag football going into next year. There will be the NCAA, the NCAA, let's see here, I believe uh we have 60 plus NCAA teams uh that already have now are building girls flag football programs.

SPEAKER_02

Correct.

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We're not far from getting scholarships for those girls, we're not far from NIL deals. Although there was already an NIL deal, we'll talk about too.

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Talk about that second. Yep.

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But yeah, you have you have the Big Ten. Shout out to Nebraska for putting that together.

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So so I'm gonna, so I'm I'm old enough, and this this is where I'm really where I really feel old now, Claudio and John Jacob. I uh this is where I feel old. I remember when girls' basketball, women's basketball in college was run by an organization called the AIAW. It wasn't even an NCAA sanctioned event. And there were small schools that won the national championship, one in particular, Immaculata won the national championship in basketball. However, my point is this you look at the top 10 college programs on this list, Nebraska, Alabama State, HBCU, UT Arlington, number three, and the cut in Long Island University, Cal Poly, Fairley Dickinson, Mercy Hurst, Mount St. Mary's, Mississippi Valley State, another HBCU school out of out of uh uh out of the Delta and and Mississippi, and then North Alabama and the A Sun. I think right now, like I'm interested in seeing how many of these programs will be considered top ten five years from now. Will it go the same way that women's basketball did where those were these smaller Division I schools we won't see on the list? It's great that they're on the list right now. Yes, and they're the trendsetters. But I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that we're gonna see more Nebraska's, Michigans, uh South Carolina, Alabama's, we're gonna see more on this list five years from now that look more like Nebraska rather than, and no knock on UT Arlington and Long Island, you know, LIU and Cal Poly. But I don't see how those how these smaller D1s, once the money comes into play, how they're gonna be able to survive and compete and uh and uh you know play at that level that they're gonna be.

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Let's know. You got you got some currently uh current schools running club teams, Arizona State, Florida State, Colorado.

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That's what I'm saying. What what happens when they get funding? What happens when it's now scholarship? Those teams are and what happens when they have an NCAA Division I flag football tournament for a national champion. I mean that that then that changes.

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That's what and that's what Bill Pills. Not light years. No, a few years away from this.

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That's what Bill Pillow was, that's Bill Pilla's vision. I'm just repeating what he said, and that was his vision. So if he has that vision, you know that people, athletic administrators across the country at Power Force schools, are thinking the same way that Bill Pill is thinking.

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I think before the Olympics or around the Olympics in 2028, yes, there will be a national championship title. I mean, listen, just think of the sport. So America is fanatics about football. Right. It's the number one sport in America. They make the most money, they have the most viewership. Uh, although these days you can't find the game because they're all over the place on Prime or Apple or whatever streaming service.

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Like it's we should have a show about that nonsense, but we'll do that another stuff.

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If you have DirecTV, okay, I always thought Direct TV you need to have a satellite for. Nope. If you have the DirecTV app, they'll be able to have you track all the games, no matter what platform they're on. You can sign all in on the DirecTV app and be able to watch your games through one app, even though it's on multiple platforms. Something I found out recently that DirecTV, you don't need a satellite, you just need the app, and you can have all of that right there.

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You don't need that thing with the little piece sticking out and then a circle.

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You don't need to go outside and make sure you point it to the right, 37.7 degrees north and get 25 degrees uh south latitude.

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Nope. Nope.

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Actually, Claudio.

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Just an app. Technology, Claudio, my favorite.

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Shout out to DirecTV for putting that together as well.

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Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Uh so yes, there will be there will be top national teams. And when I was building this out, we built out this report uh playbook. The Girls Flag football playbook is called. Once it's out on social media, it's free. You guys can download it. It will help you look at what schools are putting it together, how you can actually uh get recruited, all right, for all you young girls out there at high school playing it, and also how to get started, because here are some stats I want to put out before we go back to the college side. So we will have a hundred plus college teams going into next season. I said 60, but it's 100 plus. Like I said, 23 states have sanctioned this. We have four million youth flag football players, 69,000 high school flag football players played in 2024, 2025. So you knew that number's up from the last season. Uh and 20, this that blew my mind. 20 million young ladies, as well as women, are playing flag football in 100 plus countries. I mean, I've never seen a sport grow this fast in this day and age. I mean, pickleball grew pretty fast, but it has nothing like this. So when you think about the popularity, coach, it's incredible. We we got to watch the Section One Championship in the rain.

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Okay. It was it I I love the I love the game. I love the game of flag football. And to be there live, to be there live, you really appreciate it more.

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I could tell you right now, if you take other girls' sports, put them in the rain, pouring rain, those stands wouldn't have been as filled as they were during that championship. No. Okay. Because this is a sport that programs you. It programmed all of the dads. Maybe not all of the moms, but program all of the crazy football dads, absolutely, especially in this area, correct.

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Who go to the Jets games who are who are diehard jet and died? Which I don't even know how and Giants fans.

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Right. I'm a Jet fan, okay? I'm a I'm a Jeff fan. And yes, who would go to a jet game in December? You have to pay me to go to the jet game in December. Team sucks. It's freezing out there, okay? You can watch the game at home. Correct. So much better. But that stadium is still packed. They're not giving away tickets for that case. So you think about the pre-programmed dads that are built for the weather. So no matter what the weather is, they're going to be there, okay? The moms who don't maybe understand, they're not all like the you know, moms love football from Wesley Briarcliffe High School uh team. The moms are now seeing their young girl who can play in a sport, all right? Less likely to get hurt, even though it's football. They do a great job with how they put that together. Correct. Um, but they're making football plays. They threw some dimes on those corner outs that we looked at in the rain. Sophia was really good. You have juju's Barry Sanders out there. She she's juju. I'm gonna say cutting, she's jujuing between every single player. It's such an exhilarating game to watch. It's it's fun to watch, it's exciting.

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Um and attendance. The weather was so bad that day, and still people, it would, it was still pretty well attended, even though the even though the weather was you know wasn't uh accommodating. So it was it was unreal. It's it's it's a different game. And and something else that we didn't know, it w which is funny because if we're talking bat like we're talking about there's a world championship for flag football, which which is fun which blew my mind. You and I had no idea there was a world championship, and you would think because we wouldn't the world championship precedes NCAA. Um so uh I think what happens now is because of the Olympics, the Olympic be it being an Olympic event, because of the fact that you have um uh a world championship within the next like I think it's probably gonna happen now within the next two years that the NCAA has their first NCAA flag football tournament within the next two years. Well, I don't think I'll I don't think they have to.

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Because there's a before we dive into it, there there's a pro league coming out. But you mentioned world you mentioned world championship titles. Yes. Okay. Yes. Uh so a couple of women's name to know in that scenario. You have Vanita Crouch. Vanita Crouch coach, USA quarterback, okay. She is the most decorated woman in U.S. national team history. She was born in a refugee camp. Unbelievable.

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Unbelievable story.

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And I I love this part because this is what really this is why I put her first in this list. A 20-year veteran for physical education teacher, okay, here in America, teaching young athletes uh how to stay in better shape. Her world championship titles 2018, 2021, 2024, okay? Which basically means that she is a dominating dominating winner. And to mention that, roughly, okay, in her international career, this woman, 33 and one, 33 wins, one loss in her international career.

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And the loss comes to the person that we're going to talk about next. It's incredible. She's 33 and 1. She's dominated international level uh flag football. Um the question is, she's been a 20-year phys ed teacher, so we're looking at a situation where will she be able to will she be able to perform as you get older? Can you perform two years from now? Will she be the Olympic team quarterback for us? That's the question. I mean, listen, she's gonna I mean she's still obviously she's in tremendous shape. She's she's still doing her thing.

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But pro is different than high school. I mean, pro is different than high school. At high school, we have a lot of running. Yes. Okay. Uh if she's if it's if you're quarterbacks, a lot of running quarterbacks.

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If she's just throwing it around the park, then she and she's got that arm the way she has it now, then she can probably she'll probably be able to get to 28.

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I mean, you see.

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His last year was how old was he, 42, 45?

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I think he was 41, 42 when he won the uh the championship.

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Uh in uh Tom Brady's last year in football. Look at Coach, look at Coach using his last year in football. Right on the show. I love it. I love it. 44 years old when he won't. 44 years old. 44. So she's if she she should have no problem, she'll probably be our United States national team quarterback. Should be uh barring, you know, keep as long as she doesn't get injured.

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So yeah, she she she's a gunslinger. So definitely look her up. And again, what I love about this is that this is a name that most people won't know until the Olympics. And we're we're bringing it, we're bringing it up. We're bringing it together. Young girls should look her up and see what she's done.

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We're bringing these names to the forefront. Yep. So that way they're fam they're somewhat familiar for our for our people, our viewership, and they're familiar with people that going into the Olympics. They'll say, Oh, we've heard that name before. And so she's 33 and 1. Her only losses to the young lady on the list next. I mean Diana Flores out of Mexico. Another QB. Another QB. By the way, obviously the the Mexican women's flag football team must be very strong because the only loss that they that the United States received was from Diana Flores and the Mexican national team who upset them last year, 2025, 26 to 21.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, so she's also the first ever. First ever uh under armor's first ever flag football ambassador.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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She's on the Gatorade Athlete roster, okay? Uh signed with Michael Strahan's Smack Group.

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That's the sport, that's that's his sport agency representation.

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Management agency, yep. Yep. Uh and then she did star. She did star in the 2023 NFL Super Bowl. And uh she led the 2025 upset against the U.S., 26-21, outdoing Vanita Crouch and giving her her one loss.

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Absolutely. Her only international loss. And then, and then um another young lady on the list, Genezia Wilson out of Irvington, New Jersey. Well, that's Kaiser University. I mean, first of all, so this is an amazing story.

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It's an amazing story. For for for parents watching this, it used to be when we were kids that your real level of getting paid to go to college uh in college was to get a scholarship. So if you were a young athlete and you were able to go to a D1 school, D2 school as well, and you got paid to go there because they gave you a scholarship, that was like your first level of being pro. And then the only way for you to actually make money in your pocket was to go pro and then get paid. In the world today of NIL, not only is NIL sanctioned to pay high school athletes, 45 states have sanctioned NIL to pay high school athletes. You also have all states, uh, I believe 45 plus states actually, for college athletes as well. So your daughter can not only make some money in high school, okay, but she can also make money in college. Now we don't play the sports to get paid, we play the sport for the love of the game, but this is a business when you start to get to college. We have another report that will come out to give you all the guidance about the NIL, which we'll put out there on social media. It will be a free report, as all our reports will be, to share this information so you can know the ins and outs of how to navigate this crazy world of high school, college, and NIL related sports. But this young lady out at Irvington, New Jersey, she was the first ever, basically, NIL contract that was given, okay, uh, to at least a high school athlete. I believe she might be the first ever, period. But she signed with Nike flag football. Okay. Uh, while she was in high school, she was a twenty twenty-four New York New Jersey Player of the Year. Um high school All American. Nine hundred and thirty all-purpose yards, I think, that year. She was ninth in the nation.

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Um hundred and thirteen passes as a freshman, fifth in the nation. Right.

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I mean, switch I mean, listen, you look at these numbers. Okay. And then you look at you look at some of the young ladies that played with us, like 930 all-purpose yards back then. Okay, fine. Back then, maybe. I mean, I think there there could be a game where Juju gets 930 yards in a game. Correct.

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I mean the way she the way she's running life. Absolutely. Insanity. It's it's it's crazy. It's uh so uh, you know, for Ganesia, I'm not sure, and I'm I'll I'll I'll do a better job with this as we go along and cover flag football. I don't know if Kaiser University is division one in in flag football. I I'm assuming they are. That that's my guess. I know that they're an NAIA scholarship school in Fort Lauderdale. I do know they're in Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Um, I know that they've they've had very good athletic teams in other realms, uh, in other sports, you know, in other sports. So for Ganasia to be at Kaiser right now, the question becomes five years from now, if there's a Ganasia Wilson at a Kaiser University and she does really well, does she move up? Does she go to a PowerForce school? Where you know, think about that now. That's the first one. That's that's that's that's the evolution of this.

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We hate the transfer portal in basketball. Uh right now, for transfer portal and girls flag football, because it's so new, there's no transfer portal just yet.

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Right, but it's new you can you can move these teams around pretty quickly. However, if if you have a situation where this young lady is at Kaiser right now, and two years from now, Alabama comes calling with a bunch of money, what's she gonna do?

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But I gotta tell you, I mean, Alabama maybe, but most likely it'll be a far it'll be a Florida team because Florida leads the country in high schools that play girls health cool. Sure. Right? They they were there's four hundred and fifty high schools in Florida for girls. I mean, Florida, we always talk about like uh the county center, okay, for uh high school basketball championships is the Mecca of high school basketball championships because it they don't it's not like Madison Square Garden with or a college arena, it's just that arena, which now is the home to the Westchester Knicks, is where you play your high school basketball championship uh here in section one. It should be the states for that matter, it's the best arena in the case. The best non-pro arena inside New York or college. But now you have Florida is basically the Mecca of girls' flag football.

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It's yeah, we have a young lady named Caroline Ward. Ironically, same we're not related, but we we're very close family, member, family friends of ours. They're like family. Caroline Ward transferred from Coramel, New York, goes to Bishop Verrault outside of Naples, and is a star on their flag football team.

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That's Naples, Florida, for all you wondering.

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Absolutely, Naples and South Southwest Florida. She was all state. I think she was all-state, all area. And her team was nationally ranked at one point, didn't win the state championship, did not win the state championship. That's how strong football is down there. Flag football is down there. She and she didn't play it before. And um, she got down there and it's very strong. It's a high level of flag football. And I won't be surprised with regard to what you said about Genezia Wilson. I won't be surprised if Florida, Florida State, and the U, Miami, if they come, if they come uh develop uh flag football, girls' flag football in those universities, I won't be surprised if they come calling with a bunch of money to bring her, get her to those school, one of those schools.

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I mean, they have to. I mean, again, Florida State, I believe we mentioned already uh has club teams, but they have to. You know, you think about think about what Nebraska did. Nebraska's the biggest thing on our list right now. That's crazy. Uh Liz and Katie Sour. Soer Sour? How would you say that, coach?

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Sours.

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Sours. Sours. Sours. Okay. The Sours sisters here. Yep. Uh, they were hired by Nebraska to build the program. Katie comes from the NFL coaching experience because she coached with the San Francisco 49ers. Amazing. All right. Did a great job out there. Yes. So Nebraska has pulled in one of the top minds and coaches from the NFL.

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To have the vision for this program.

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For the NFL. They pulled him from the NFL to bring her to college. Right? Her and her sister to bring her to college sports to now coach Nebraska and build the team for girls' flag football. They're not messing around.

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The the if those people that don't know w about what Nebraska is. My cousin, Mindy, went to Nebraska, the Cornhuskers in Lincoln. And if though if there's they started volleyball, you know, Nebraska women's volleyball was not what it is now. You you go you can't get a ticket for a Nebraska women's volleyball game. They sell out for volleyball. Can you imagine when they get the what if Nebraska does it, there'll be 35,000 people in that and because there's that's all they have. They don't have a pro team. Right. It's the corn huskers, red and white. That's it.

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Corn and corn huskers.

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But I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you this. If Nebraska's good in something, the Husker Nation, they pack whatever it could be tiddlywinks, and there'll be a place would be packed if it has Nebraska on it and they're winning. So Nebraska is gonna try to figure out how to be how to make this a revenue producing sport as well. That's why they brought the girls, that's why they brought the Sours girls, the Sours sisters in. Because they want a revenue uh producer, and they know that coming down the pike, if they've got the team, the number one team in the country, there'll be 35 to 40,000 people in that stadium watching them play.

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Well, how they can make how they can make revenue is you see Coach and I wearing our locked-in shirts, and you'll see these patches that we have here on the sleeve, absolutely which store all the highlights of our show. Um interactive patches, just like our medals. Correct. So listen, Sawyer Sisters, who are gonna build the number one program for Girls Flag football. We'll make sure we send you some clips of our section one girls flag football uh standouts. Yeah. But we should have the first ever interactive Husker patches uh right here. Okay, let us know. We'll send you some. And now make all these beautiful moments that you're creating here for the girls flag football and being pioneers. Again, coming from the NFL is amazing to come downstairs.

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I mean, yeah, and uh the, you know, they're interactive patches, baby. Yeah, it's it's where it's going. I mean, they got they got McKina Cook, Nebraska commit next year. Receive the first ever Division I Power 4 flag football scholarship offer, which is what we just got done talking about. That's the evolution.

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She's gonna play on the USA.

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US USA. She should end up being uh on the Olympic team. Yep. Two two 15-year junior international cup gold medals. So the Sour sisters have got her. She's gonna be a star. Yep. And then, you know, and so, and then uh we we'd be remiss not to bring up Kilolo Westerland out of Alabama State, scholarship flag football student athlete, a leading voice when the NCAA approved the sport, and she represents the new high school to college pathway. And the and the the young lady has a vision as well. And to be that young, for that young lady, Kilolo Westerland, to be that young and have a vision for what she sees is incredible. And Alabama State is reaping the rewards of her being there, you know, because right now they're number two on the list of top college programs. It's great. I hope Alabama State is able to stay and find a way to get that money generated, that revenue generated, to continue to be at that level that they are now.

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Well, listen, I don't I don't want to, you know, bring bring the battle of the sexes into this, but my daughter would say that uh boys drool and girls rule. Yep, they do. And then she'll come back and say, uh, Daddy, girls go to college to get more knowledge, boys go to Jupiter to become more stupider. And uh uh you've seen her on Instagram, my daughter. She she loves to put these uh little little tidbits on. Shout out to Madeline. She's something else. Um, or Maddie as she'd like to be called in that scenario. But I bring this up to say that these young ladies will be different than your 1970s, 80s, 90s men who played who basically technology. Nope. Because of their be because of who they are, coach. Yeah, no doubt. Because they're not gonna just put them through home ec as they do for a lot of the football players, right? Not there were a tremendous amount of college football players that have a high level of intelligence, there's zero doubt. And you need a high level of intelligence to play football and learn all the plays because they're extremely. Well, let's not be let's be clear. There's a lot of those college athletes who maybe became pro or not that never went to class. So when we talk about visions, like this young lady, Miss Westerlund, who has a vision, putting it together, like if there was ever a sport that was ruled, dominated, and produced by men, that now has the power of women athletes behind it that are going to lead it. A lot different than the WNBA, in my opinion. Yes. Okay, yes, that are going to lead this sport and make it successful, it is this group of women. Agreed.

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I I I mean, I think what I think what they'll do, particularly with the pro league, I think what they'll do is they'll take the lessons learned from the WNBA, the good things from the WMBA they'll take. And I think they will certainly um uh be cautionary to make sure that they don't make some of the same mistakes that the WNBA made um in in the evolution of developing their league. And I'm not and I'm not criticizing the WNBA. I'm just saying the WMBA. The WNBA um was they there there've never been anything. So when you do something at the beginning, right? Whenever you do something that you're original, right, like you did, whenever you do that and nobody else has done it, you're gonna make you're gonna make mistakes along the way that when the next person comes to do something similar, they're gonna look at what you did and they're gonna analyze and say, okay, John Limb did this really well. That's what I'm trying to make the point. The WNBA does certain things really well. So you want to use those things that the WNBA did very well to develop your league. However, there is certain things that nobody could foresee that now this pro league, this flag football pro league sees, and they go, okay, all right, we don't want to do that because we saw what happened, and they're learning from the experience of what the WNBA went to.

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Coach, I I typically agree with you on almost everything. This letting the WAW NBA off the hook for the debauchery of this sport is horrendous. I mean, the NBA has always had good leadership from David Stern. Right. Okay, on the NBA built themselves from tape-gamed delays championships when you were part of it. Okay, and thank God to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and this crew making it to where it is today, to what we just got to watch. Sure. They have the money, they had the leadership, they have the know-how, they have the TV contracts, they do have they have it all. The WNBA didn't step their game up for these poor young women until you had a Caitlin Clark like once-in-a-lifetime generation come to the sport who could not be ignored. Correct. Could not be ignored. In this case, in the Girls Flag football case, why I'm so much more bullish about it, okay, uh, is because these young ladies, they're not going to allow the leadership that was bad of the WNBA to the city. Yeah, they're not, they're not gonna tolerate it. No, no, I will say though, I will say that uh they have a lot of great backers. Okay, you have guys like Eli Manning, uh Aaron Rodgers, I think I just read, right, jumped into some of these sponsorships. But I will say that the NFL needs to step up and give a lot more money than they're giving. Right now, the Pro League, which is gonna launch either next year or maybe the year of the Olympics, they've only gotten $32 million.

SPEAKER_02

Which is which is basically 50 cents to the to the NFL.

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What basically the NFL did in a marketing type thing is there's 32 teams. They have a 32 uh uh like private equity brand they have, the 32 invest, I forget the name of it. And basically, collectively, they gave a million dollars each to this sport. You need to give five times that. Okay? $150 plus million dollars for these young ladies to launch a pro league in the college.

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I I agree with that.

SPEAKER_00

Education, much much more than that. We're not spending enough money. And for them to give only $32 million, yeah. I mean, listen, $32 million. So drop in the bucket for the NFL. That's not even the the the beer bill that is given for one season on one popular team. Correct. I mean, come on, guys, step up. Okay, don't make the mistake.

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Roger Goodell lives right here in Westchester County. Commissioner Goodell, where's your camera? Where which one am I looking at? Commissioner Goodell, I think there's enough money to really make a serious investment in this professional flag football league to do it the right way. Don't make the same mistakes that have been made in the formation of other pro leagues, you know, and developing the other pro leagues. Don't make that same mistake. You have the financial wherewithal and the means. Let's get it done for these young ladies. This can be a real revenue generating sport. This can be a real popular cultural, culturally popular. Cultural sport, yeah. Cultural sports change lives, and it'll be a real sport for our young ladies across the country. That it will it will be uh certainly a different thing than soccer and basketball.

SPEAKER_00

Totally agree.

SPEAKER_02

It'll be different than the N NW NW NWSL will be different as well.

SPEAKER_00

Totally, and it should be. And a credit to the NFL and and to Roger Cajell and his team for getting this off the ground for the youth side. From the youth program side, unbelievable. The NFL has been amazing. They give you out free equipment. You can and again, this will be in our you can do, you can, you can, they've they've done a phenomenal job of like we talked about for any sport. Like lacrosse is what we talk about often. For a sports to be born, it has to be born with the youth.

SPEAKER_02

They've done it for for that. We have to hands down the best job of any pro team.

SPEAKER_00

Any pro league to do that. So congratulations.

SPEAKER_02

You have to compliment Roger Goodell on on the youth uh at the grassroots level, the youth level.

SPEAKER_00

But don't let it fail now.

SPEAKER_02

However, you went in.

SPEAKER_00

Let's go all the way in. Go all the way in.

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All right.

SPEAKER_00

Go all the way in. There's no reason that these young ladies, when we start the pro team, should have to be budgeted so little today. Don't make the same mistake WNBA made. Right. Okay. Because people will spend money, whether it's live going to the game or on the fan gear. I mean, look, there's no doubt in my mind that this sport is going to surpass some of the major sports, okay, and women's women's sports that have been around forever.

SPEAKER_02

If it's done the right way. If it's done the right way. Put your money where your mouth is and get it done. Get the money to these to the Pro League and watch and see what happens. It's gonna be it'll be incredible.

SPEAKER_00

Agreed. Agreed. And we have the full reports, okay? The the the Girls Flag football playbook, uh, which will be the first playbook that we put out here at the Winnie Moments across social media online as well, where you subscribe. It's a free report. It has a great interactive checklist for you to see how to get girls started. If your team, uh if your young ladies have not played, if your team does not have a uh team, okay, it'll show you how to start a team for that matter. I think here in section one, giving a lot of credit to section one and our executive team, Todd, Dan, and Jesse, as well as Bill, who is the the chair right now for that particular sport. They want a lot more teams. And I will say something that our uh other co-host, who's not here today, uh he decided that he was gonna take a hiatus, a well-needed hiatus there.

SPEAKER_02

He needed to. I mean, he's been killing, you know, he's been all over the place, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, but since he gave me uh gave me a little shit about uh you know being in the press box, or actually remember, remember when I filmed remotely and I was skiing in Colorado? Yes. Yeah, well, uh, you know, Mr. Uh hardest working Man America right now is playing like 700 rounds of golf.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, he is. Yes, he that but that's his therapy. He better win. He better win. Represent the winning moments to win. By the way, he's he's an people don't know this. He's an outstanding. He's a horrible golfer.

SPEAKER_00

You should never play golf with him or bet against him and got harmful. He's an outstanding golfer. Take his money. Okay. He's an outstanding. Don't ask him by his handicap.

SPEAKER_02

He's a he's an outstanding golfer.

SPEAKER_00

I will say this that there is what I wanted to say about what he mentioned on shows in the past, coaches. Okay, where we're gonna need help is we're gonna need help in coaches. So the most successful teams that we've had to date uh here in section one, and I venture to say, without any research, it's probably this way across the country, is the boys tackle football coach, head coach, head coach, working on, whether directly involved as coaching or working on with coaches they can bring up for the girls' flag football teams, is super important to the development, to the development of that school's team.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. I mean, look at Anthony Vitti at at at Memarinick, they were a club team last year. Who who broke the record? He did, he was the first. He was the first and then for 45 minutes. Yeah, for about an hour and a half. But but that's that's that's our point. That's the other thing. It's gonna be really important to have as many people that are really good on the boys tackle football side to be involved in the development of the girls' flag football on that side. If that really comes about, and we have and we have a proliferation of boys tackle football people coming to girls' flag football, you watch and see how fast this thing develops and how good these girls really get. It'll be unbelievable. It's exciting.

SPEAKER_00

Even if you don't think you can translate how you are, because listen, tackle football is a very rough sport.

SPEAKER_02

It's a it's a it's a collision, you know, it's not contact, it's collision sport. Exactly. Contact is is basketball, and contact is soccer. Totally. This is the the this is human beings, we collide into each other when we play that game.

SPEAKER_00

And sometimes, listen, you can transform from a men's sport to a woman's sport. Sometimes you can do that. Basketball that works in football, sometimes it it I mean it has worked. But if you are a coach for boys tackle football, and you don't think you can transfer entirely over to girls' flag football because all you've done is coach young boys for your entire life, and that's the case, totally respect that. Help them get the program started, help them with the plays, help them with the workouts, help them with the drills, help them build the roadmap that those other young coaches need to get those young girls on the field and winning as much as possible. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, it's been an uh incredible show sharing it here today with the. I mean, considering you're a Spurs fan, I don't even know how we made it through the show. Okay. Not not thinking that our Knicks were gonna pull it out. All right. We should be he should be singing the beliefs song. I mean, I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I don't want to talk about it anymore, okay? All I know is that when when the New York Knicks win, uh, I will be on this show with a Knicks jersey, and Coach will be on with a Spurs jersey. Okay. I've been a Spurs organization fan forever. I mean, you have to be. Their coaching stand is phenomenal. That's not the point, coach. That's not the point. Okay, I know. Okay, it's not the point. I know. The point is, all right, I know. All right, you should have more faith in the New York teams, even though you're from Somerville, South Carolina. It's been an incredible show. It's been a lot of fun talking about this. Again, we will have this report out on social media. You'll see it also here in the YouTube links when this show is live. Uh, please download it. Please share it with as many people that you think uh all the girl dads and and uh moms who who want their young ladies to participate in sports that are safe, by the way. This is a very space safe, non-contact sports.

SPEAKER_02

It is, it is. Um, and our last show together before this, before we leave for the summer is next next Friday, our last show's next Friday. And we're gonna talk about, tell the audience what we're gonna talk about next Friday.

SPEAKER_00

Where we're going on vacation for summer break? No, we're not. No, I who's going on vacation? Not me. I'll be working live at the Chris Ward basketball camp, Westchester's number one basketball camp out there. If you haven't signed up yet, there are still a few more spots. You'll find that link both on the winning moments and at Chris Ward basketball on Instagram. Do not miss this camp. It is amazing. My son was a uh participant of that camp. And he went from uh not making varsity in his uh freshman year to uh winning a basketball award last year. Last night in the school for his excellence in uh in basketball. So shout out to Sebastian.

SPEAKER_02

Shout out to Sebastian, absolutely. Um, but what tell the audience what we're gonna talk about next week. All of the recaps, all the recaps for baseball, softball, girls across, and boys across and boys across and where they stand how you know pass after after passing, you know, when there's dead plan. It's this weekend, correct?

SPEAKER_00

It is there, there are games this weekend, yeah. Baseball. Oh, your favorite part of the state, upstate New York?

SPEAKER_02

I try not to do that. I'm not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, coach loves New York.

SPEAKER_02

I love New York up to Saratoga.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Saratoga is beautiful. Saratoga's gorgeous. And on that note, we have to wrap their show up at some point. I'll be doing this all day long. Yep. Again, uh, please like and subscribe here on YouTube if you're watching the show right now. It's very quick. Just hit the button to the right. The more followers we can get here, the more exposure we can give to these kids. If you're seeing these clips on Instagram, like, comment, share these clips. Make sure you do follow us in that scenario. Instagram account is growing very fast. We need that to give exposure. Uh, we do not make money on these media channels. We will not have uh ads where you have to skip through on YouTube ever. These is just for the exposure for these kids, so please keep sharing that thoughts. If you're listening to us right now on Spotify or Apple Music, wherever you get your podcast, please follow us. We have a lot more gems like this coming out. It's been an amazing show. I love talking about Girls Flag football. Again, this report coming out on social media. It is free. Download it, share it. It is very intuitive. A lot of information of how you can get your young daughters either into college for free. I wanted to see who's gonna be the first millionaire. Who's the first millionaire for Girls Flag football? It's gonna be fascinating to see, and I hope it happens next year. And that's it. That's a wrap. That's our show at the winning moments.

SPEAKER_02

Two to one?

unknown

Yeah. The score was two to one, not three to one.

SPEAKER_02

It was okay. Yes, and and um scinolating final game yesterday in the in the World Cup in Guadalajara, Mexico. Uh South Korea pulls pulls it out two to one over a rough and rugged Chechia squad.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know he was reading.

SPEAKER_02

Formerly, formerly, formerly, um Czechoslovakia. Then it was the Czech Republic, now it's Chechia. You ever been to the Czech Republic? I have not. I heard it's beautiful. Oh, Prague is beautiful. Prague is beautiful. Prague is one of the finest cities in Europe. I do know that. Prague is uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Prague, Prague, the last.

SPEAKER_02

That's all you need if clips are clips.

unknown

I'm gonna take the soundbite.

SPEAKER_00

Are you recording are you still recording though? Yeah, so clips are clips. Prague. Prague. Yeah, but just give it an Anastasia, just put them on there. Okay. No, just give it to her. Prague is the is Prague is the first, Prague is the home of the of the dark Budweiser. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have a uh Guinness-like looking Budweiser, and Budweiser couldn't uh take the name from them because they had the name of Budweiser before Budweiser America. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they probably took that water from the Danube. Little fleck. That's uh good job, you guys. Thank you. Thank you, Claudio. Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. Tonight, regarding Paraguay. Paraguay in the United States. Um, as disappointing as that sounds, and I'll tell you why.

SPEAKER_01

Paraguay's not gonna be easy.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm saying I have zero expectations for this team. You hear me?

SPEAKER_01

I'm really upset that I didn't call up my man Luna. He was good.

SPEAKER_02

I love that, and and he has an edge.

SPEAKER_01

He's a warrior.

SPEAKER_02

He's a warrior. See, and and and and work rate, okay? Work rate. So he's a warrior, he has a tremendous work rate, and you guys kept him off the roster on a team full of soft entitled uh uh uh players that are overseas now. And and here's my thing, Claudio. I just got done watching the boys in '94. Did you see the documentary on Kobe Jones? It was really good.

SPEAKER_01

That's when I first came to the state. So I was all excited because the World Cup was here.

SPEAKER_02

And we beat Columbia, you know, we know um free kick by Winaldo was unbelievable. But if this team had that toughness, those kids, those kids back then were not as gifted and skilled, but they had a toughness about it.

SPEAKER_01

The last two World Cup. I mean the players aren't getting better, but you're right. They've lost the grittiness.

SPEAKER_02

We've lost, yeah, and and we're soft. Yeah. We are skilled.

SPEAKER_01

And you're not good enough to be that soft.

SPEAKER_02

Correct.

SPEAKER_01

If you were that good, then it'd be different. There's other teams out there that are.

SPEAKER_02

That are that yeah, but not not this group.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no. This is you know, I think you guys are you guys are gonna struggle with that.

SPEAKER_02

This is this is this is going to be embarrassing. Hopefully you guys make it out of groups and you just I don't know if we can uh the Americans?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I doubt it.

unknown

You have to.

SPEAKER_02

We're gonna talk about that too.

SPEAKER_01

The difference of this World Cup versus Market One is they added like 60 new teams, so there's more teams.

SPEAKER_02

I understand, but our but but Australia, Australia is gonna come in and play us very tough.

SPEAKER_01

They cannot again they can't lose Australia.

SPEAKER_02

I listen, they really can't lose anybody. They can't lose anybody. US soccer schedule world cup.

SPEAKER_00

Hat or no hat, Claude. What do you think? Since Coach and I are matching shirts.

SPEAKER_02

We have to talk about the World Cup.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think we do. I mean to open up. Yeah, we do. I think we open up with the Knicks. John's against the I'm not against anything. I place it.

SPEAKER_02

We're talking about the Knicks too. We're gonna talk we'll talk about the Knicks and we'll talk about tonight. And that we have no absolutely zero.

SPEAKER_01

That put back button? That put back was crazy. That put back fish.

SPEAKER_00

Which sport are you talking about? How many sports are you gonna try to basketball?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm talking about the the There's no game tonight. Obi-Wan Kenobi's um we're not gonna beat Turkey. No.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, we're not. No, we're not. We lost to Turkey last time in a friendly two to one.

SPEAKER_01

You guys did. They are friendlies.

SPEAKER_02

Friendly, my ass. They're only friendly because they don't count. But I mean, they don't count um it for the World Cup or competition.

SPEAKER_01

Because of the growth of this year's tournament, there's no one set like group of death, like traditionally we because there was less teams, you're all there was always gonna be one group that had three difficult teams. And I will tell you this. If there's one group that's gonna kind of it is the US. Because they have decent, it's like they're all like on the same level. Correct. Which means that anybody can exactly anybody can go.

SPEAKER_02

Anybody can go. But we'll start with the next, and then we'll uh do um then do we'll touch we have to touch United States place tonight. We're we're Americans, so we have we need to touch on that. We have to we're Americans. We I mean we we live here, so you're not American. What am I? You're uh European?

unknown

You're you're from Norway now.

SPEAKER_02

I yeah. He's been he by the way, his coach texts him every day. The Greek coach texts him every day how excited they are to do this, to get this done. They're they're trying to do well, let's not call him a Greek coach anymore. Now he's uh Norwegian coach. He's well he's he's coaching in Norway, but he happens to be Greek.

SPEAKER_00

It's racist when you talk about nationalities.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00

Oh million, sixty-nine thousand high school girls, twenty million players in a hundred plus countries. I love it. I love these stats. This playbook is great. This is my spot.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you I because I see you can have a computer on the left and right, but as long as you're standard at some most of the time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean listen, I could I could drop this. I could actually drop the text.

SPEAKER_01

Well no, but you're gonna be looking at coach on that side, too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just thinking about this, the sign behind me, that's all.

unknown

Alright.

SPEAKER_01

I think we need to start moving this way. The sun's too bright. Paraguay, Australia.

SPEAKER_00

Let me see. Uh we could try that too. Let me see, uh, coach.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm good. I got my hair cut too today. This morning.

SPEAKER_01

Coach, look at uh John. I'm perfect.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Is that good? Perfection. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Outstanding.

SPEAKER_01

You know what we're waiting for, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, but yeah, hold on. I walk alone the city street. She used to walk alone with me. And every step I take reminds me of just how we used to be. So how could I forget you, girl? And there is always something there to remind me. I I couldn't get up that high. And by the way, always something there to remind me.

SPEAKER_01

Aren't these some Brit guys? They're British. I can't do British with that high with that guy.

SPEAKER_02

I was born to love her. And I will never be free.

SPEAKER_01

You'll always be a part of me. You need some Springsteen, man. That's USA day today. Hey, little girl, it's your daddy home.

SPEAKER_02

Did he go ahead and leave you alone? I got a bad desire. Hit that clock, clock. Oh, hit the timer. Oh!

SPEAKER_00

Jump in! Come on, come on, come on!

SPEAKER_01

Hold on, my ears are.

SPEAKER_02

Put me in, coach! I'm ready to play! Today! Put me in, coach! I'm ready to play! Today!

SPEAKER_00

Look at me! I can be set up! Put it in the camera on me, Claude. Let me see.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, look at you. I have to have two different um audio tunings for Coach when he sings and when he doesn't sing.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta auto-tune me like doing that kind of song like that. That would be kind of fun.

SPEAKER_01

We are definitely not auto-tuning you. Your voice naturally is beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, thank you so much, Claudio. You're too kind. Jacob, thank you for the help too this morning.

SPEAKER_00

Full branding today. Full branding.

unknown

Here we go.

SPEAKER_00

All right.