Welcome to The Locker Room: Women vs Men Ep.1

Welcome to the first episode of In the Locker Room, a new series from The Winning Moments Show featuring John, Claudio, and Arianna.

The crew kicks off the series with a real locker room-style debate about men’s sports vs. women’s sports, why women’s sports are already here, what separates high school and college locker rooms, and how leadership, respect, and team chemistry shape great athletes.

From Arianna’s college basketball experience at Pace, to Claudio’s player-and-coach perspective, to John stirring up debates about cornhole, trash talk, captains, and old-school sports movies — this episode brings energy, laughs, and real athlete insight.

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0:00 – Welcome to the Locker Room
3:12 – Men vs. Women in Sports
5:05 – Women’s Sports Are Here
7:25 – Locker Room Debate Begins
9:34 – Cornhole Challenge
16:17 – John Enters the Debate
21:43 – College Locker Room Talk
27:41 – Pouting at Halftime
29:36 – Player vs. Coach Mindset
33:09 – What Makes a Captain
39:15 – Respect in the Locker Room
39:54 – Name on the Front
44:22 – Game On
45:07 – Talker or Silent Assassin
48:16 – Trash Talk as a Tool
50:32 – What’s Next


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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the locker room, a winning moment series. I'm John Lim, and I'm joined here by two amazing co-hosts. A lot uh different looking, I'd argue better looking than my other co-host. Sitting here next to me, I got Ariana Stockinger. Cross the mic over here, you'll see a lot. I got Claudio Valenzuela. And let me now introduce you to my two wonderful co-hosts. I got Claudio Valenzuela. He is a high school athletic star and stud who also played at Manhattanville, uh, multi-sport athlete, coach, bringing uh girls' soccer and D2 to the Final Four. So much to talk about with this man here. He understands how not only to play on the field, but also how to coach the kids. And then I got Ariana Stockinger, who is a high school stud. Okay, thousand point scorer, section one champ. There's not enough time to talk about her accolades in high school. She's all section, all league, all everything here for that matter. Matter of fact, we're also going to make her all locker room as part of this uh this show tandem. She went on to be a star at Pace, basketball star at Pace. In high school, she was. I can't wait to talk about her story for high school because not only did she play three sports, like Claudio did, but she also was a cheerleader while that was happening. So we're not really sure if she was cheering for herself or she was cheerleading for other teams. But then she went on to pace to dominate there, another thousand point scorer, 500 plus rebounds in the club, get into the elite eight with that team, captain of that uh pace team. I'm surrounded by super talented individuals. I, John Limb, never played college sports. Matter of fact, I didn't even finish college. I dropped out uh early on uh to be with these wonderful people and start what we're doing today. I did play three sports in high school, but compared to these two, I might as well have been in the locker room doing their laundry, which we will find out how that works in a little while. Welcome, Ariana.

SPEAKER_04 2:09

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

How are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 2:11

Good, happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Mr. Valenzuela, how are we doing back there, buddy? What's going on, man? A little different for you to be here, the co-host, instead of just being the engineer, producer, the man behind all the magic. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

That's right. You're trying to put me in front of it. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

By the way, you missed a very incredible accolade that we're at some point. It's a surprise accolade for uh for Miss Stockinger over here.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Well, we talked about her accolades, dude. We'd be here for the entire hour just talking about her.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

But there is one. Well, there is one that's not the norm that I'm excited to come out for people to know because apparently it was pretty competitive. And knowing her so far, it's she's a very competitive young lady. I know exactly which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

I know too. I forgot about it for a second.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Everyone needs a twinkle toe on the team.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

I was saving that. I was saving that. Uh so listen, this is our first episode here at the locker room series at the winning moments. We'll be putting out some great, great content all around sports. Let's start off this locker room conversation, which is always the topic to talk about. Uh who's better in sports, men or women?

SPEAKER_04 3:17

I mean, for me, I wouldn't say um one's better than the other. They're just different. Um people always doubt women's sports, but obviously they've been on the rise the last few years. Um They're both very competitive, just very different pace games. That's I think that's what it comes down to. Just different pace. Um yeah, I don't know. What do you think, Claudia?

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Who's better, Claudia? Men or women. Is that a play on words since you went the pace?

SPEAKER_04 3:46

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 3:47

You since you went to the pace. Um, what do I think? I think that women's sports are definitely on the rise. I think you guys are definitely a force to be reckoned with. Um, I definitely believe that you guys have a different aspect of the game that men are slower to get to. Um I guess until you get to the more elite players, which is a sense of maturity. Like intelligence. I mean, they are more intelligent, we'll put that out there. I don't know about on the I don't know about on the field or on the court. Um, but there is a level of maturity that allows women athletes to be more organized, be more focused, be more serious about their sport, whereas guys depend more on their athleticism uh to get them a little bit longer further down the path. And it's those that truly, you know, harness those uh those maturity vibes are the ones that will ultimately make it beyond, you know, deep into their athletic careers. So I do believe the girls are though the future.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Look at look at look at you guys giving two quality political answers, not sticking up for each other's uh each other's battle of the sexes, as Billy Jean would say. Boys rule, girls rule. I love it. I listen, I I agree with both of you guys that I think women's sports is I I disagree that saying that it's on the rise because I think it's here. I think what what what Caitlin Clark has done for the WNBA and women's basketball, uh for old men like myself who were around during the Magic Johnson Larry Bird era in that scenario, to watch that come together in a league develop its own was so fun. And I see that now with the WNBA. I think that's amazing. We did the episode, Claudio, you remember about girls' flag football. The fact that girls flag football is not only a thing, but probably 12 months away from having a million-dollar paid girls' flag football player. I mean, that's not on the rise. That's like here.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Okay. Uh girls pickleball, all right, a sport that uh Claudio is trying to get team effort here. Locker room will have a pickleball game. We'll go out and play some pickleball together. Here in Stanford, we have the largest pickleball indoor pickleball center. I think in America. I don't know if that's true or not, but I think it's uh at least in the tri-state. We can claim it. We can claim it. We can claim it. But in the girls pickleball draft, or the pickleball draft, if you will. I don't think there was a girls pickable draft. I think it was just a pickleball draft. I have to fact check that. But the number one player in the pickleball draft, she got 1.2 million. They paid 1.2 million to make her on the pickleball team of America, whichever pro pickleball sport that happens. So Major League Pickleball? Yeah. MLP. Is it MLP? Yeah. I think that's what it's called. I think that's what it's called. Major League Pickleball. Either way, when you have something like that, it means that they're here. It's only gonna get bigger. And to your point, Claudio, it is the future. You know, you think about girls' flag football is a great example. We created a new sport, if you will, or an offshoot to a sport that existed, uh, and now I've taken it on the rise to where young girls who might love football, okay, because their dads are fanatic football fans.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

I wish they had it when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

What position would you have played?

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Um wide receiver, probably.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, she would have just walked all the way to the end zone, put her hand up. Put it up, put it up, tacky gloves, touchdown.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Like she did in the basketball court, like this. Just put it up. Come here, give the ball. These bits are like glue, baby. Come on, come on. All right, so since nobody wanted to uh take the bait there on uh which uh sex was better on the sport, let's talk about the locker room. Okay, because although, yes, on the field, we might play the same game. Could it be a different speed, Claudio? Could be more maturity and different intelligence. The speed of the game might be there, but the game is still the same. Right? Girls' tennis, men's tennis, they're still the same. Basketball, the sports that have men and men and women, they're virtually still the same, but just some different things like speed or basketball dunking.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Well, I also think so. Here's the part that's a little bit messed up, right? So the strength is a big part of this. So any sport that's that has any kind of physicality to it, there's a very drastic difference between uh the the level of play between men and women. You said tennis a second ago. Tennis has no contact. That's probably a sport where men and women can easily get to there's a little bit of strength involved, but they can easily be more equals because it's it's ability on your own side where you're not receiving a a hit or a potential foul or or a physicality that to throw you off your game. But that is the one the biggest difference between you know male sports and female sports is the the strength level and in which is it's the game is played.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Yeah, I think strength and speed is important. Serena Williams would say right now uh that no, uh I would not be, I wouldn't be ranked in the men's like she said it on I think uh one late like late night show, maybe Jimmy Fallon. Like, listen, I would not be ranked in the men's league. I'm the number one woman's player in the world, and I'm a dominant, but it's different. The speed of the ball, the strength, she said the same thing you said, the strength that the that the male has in that sport, even though you're not have the contact, it's just a completely different sport when you try to bring them both together, right? I think when you think about like a sport, if you want to classify this as a sport, which I think is more like an activity, but if you played billiards, okay, billiards, which technically is on ESPN and they have championships and things like that, that might be an even playing field in that scenario. If that's the threshold, they also have cornhole.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

I was just gonna say cornhole. I was just gonna say that. And we bring it to cornhole.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

Uh so wait, wait, wait. Fourth of July is coming up, okay? We have the big bash at my house for the fourth every year. Who would win in cornhole? Listen, I love cornhole. Between the two of you. Come on.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Claudio.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Come on.

unknown 9:53

Come on.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

Don't be saying come on now.

unknown 9:55

Come on.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Why why why why do you think in in Cornhole you would uh now we've got to remember there's gonna be two other people in this game, but let's just say that it was just you guys, one-on-one cornhole. Okay, not like we normally play with two people versus each other. One-on-one cornhole, no teammates. Why you beat her, Claudia?

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Because I'm a man and she's a woman.

SPEAKER_03 10:17

Oh my god. No, no, no. It came out real quick in 12 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

I'm beating, I'm beating, I'm beating. No, I really don't know. Um, I used to be much better than I am now. It's all about practice. The more you practice, the better you are. So she's more recently closer to the generations of uh still playing. My days of playing pickleball aren't really that often. Well, cornhole, cornhole. Yeah, I don't play that often, you know. So, but I uh you know, um it would be a it would be a fun competition.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

I like that. I like how he he beat his chest right away. All right, right. Do you do you you clearly don't agree with him?

SPEAKER_04 10:51

Yeah, I mean I think it's a pretty equal sport for men and women, and I I from an equality standpoint, well that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

Like I'm just better than you. I'm talking about you beating him.

SPEAKER_04 11:02

Yeah, I'm just I'm just better than you.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Oh how could you know that?

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Just a game that I have a lot of skill in. Skill.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Well, listen, if you haven't seen if you haven't seen the winning moment show that we do every Friday, produce on Sunday, then you don't know this. But this is exactly what I say as much as humanly possible. This is why we play the game. And we will. We will have a one-on-one cornhole between these two athletes. We will film it, we will put it out there. We might even do a little IG live or or a little YouTube live while this is going on. Some commentary. I love it. I don't want to embarrass this poor young lady.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

Come on. It's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

It's gonna happen. Come on. Okay, I can already feel the fan pressure making sure it's gonna happen. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

So we'll get the cornhole set up. All right. By the way, on a on a on a side note, which is on par, have you seen the actual pros that do like um cornhole? It's like they make it one after the other. It's like nonstop. Automatic. It's automatic. They got to miss one. Whoever misses one of them.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Don't. It's like one in every I don't even know. Right, right. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

It's wild how good those guys are. Yeah. By the way, when they miss it, the bag is still hanging out. Yeah, it's half in, half out. It was like barely. Yeah. It is the most talented. It's almost like there's like like like there's like a little like a little like magical alien inside the cornhole, like, okay, great. Clonio throws it, reaches up, grabs it. Right. Here you go. Like it's it's insane how good they are in the and they're always twirling. Like when I play a cornhole, my bag is flat. It's going up this way. When they do it, they're like tossing it like, here we go, here we go. Twisting, twisting, lands. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

The fact that that's even as imagine if there was a cornhole locker room. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Like what what would a what would that consist of what, two people in the locker room? That's what it is what it is? Yeah, two people. So do you technically need a locker room for two people? Do they have coaches? Is there like a like a manager of that case or just the two people? What would the coaching points be?

SPEAKER_04 12:57

Put it in the hole. Right. I mean, I guess the way you step and your fall through and form?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Yeah. I guess you're right. But I wonder, I wonder if when they practice, okay, they practice with a beer in their hand. Like like most people play cornhole non-professionally. They need they need like you got the beer in the hand and you're tossing the bag. Like you need the weight balance, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:18

The weight balance must throw you off once you go pro because you're like, what do I do now?

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Right. You're like, what do I put my hand? They're holding a look like a little like Dunkin' Donuts coffee cup, so it's it's clear. Okay, Miller High Life, champagne of beers.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

My dad always says he plays better with a beer in his hand. He has to have a drink in his hand.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

That's a smart man right there.

SPEAKER_04 13:34

He has to.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

The only way you play.

SPEAKER_04 13:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

When I used to play golf, uh, I used to go to the range with my buddy, uh, John Pax, and we used to play golf. Whenever we get to the range, you know, he got me into the game, so I started to play a little bit serious. So we used to go to the range, you know, three or four times a week with him. And every time we go to the range, he'd pull out like a little bottle. Either some of those, either like those little nips that you would get like at the uh inside the airplane or something. I'm like, why are we why are we having a drink while we're trying to practice? You better hear. He's like, Course conditions, man. You gotta have course conditions. If you don't practice right now during course conditions, how are you gonna play? He's like, You're an athlete, you should know that. I'm like, wait, so we're never gonna play a golf game without drinking? He's like, not with me, you're not. So exactly. So when your dad practices, he's gotta have his beer. What's uh what's what's dad's beer of choice in the cornhole championship? What would you what would you give your dad? If your dad right now is about to play cornhole championship and you had to bring him a beer, what are you bringing him?

SPEAKER_04 14:31

One of the two would probably be Corona premiere. Or he likes Michelobes too, so one of the two, but I think he's more of a corona guy. All right, little summer summer lime aspect, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Summer lime. Claudio, what beer, what beer are you going to for your cornhole? Yeah. By the way, it is it is necessary for the sport to have equilibrium balance. So what what's the beer of your choice for your cornhole?

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Of my choice. I've been um I've been dabbling. This is a sports show. Why are we talking about alcohol? It's cornhole. Cornhole. It's part of the sport.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Okay, not to mention the number one sponsor of all sports, okay, thanks to Jerry Jones, is beer. Okay? This butt is for you, is not from uh a bunch of big guys drinking around the table. No, no, no, not at all. Okay, it's because of sports. So I'm liking this beer. We're in America, buddy. Kona? Have you heard of this beer? Oh, yeah, yeah. The Kona. The Kona. That's kind of my wave these days. All right, so we'll get we'll get I like how I do that, Kona, my wave. Right. Uh huh. Uh-huh. Kona. Listen to this man, okay? You need to hire him right now. What would be your beer of choice when you set this cornhole championship? Because listen, I don't want any excuses. I don't want it to be like, you know what? I lost Ariana because I didn't have my Kona. Ariana, I don't want to hear, I lost to Claudio because I didn't have my Michelobe. Okay. All right. Daddy's girl. I like it. Little Michelobe. Like pops. This is gonna happen. We're gonna set the stage. I don't know if it's gonna happen next Saturday, July 4th, but we are gonna set the stage. There'll definitely be a video of this, and there will be one cornhole champion for the entire summer, by the way. This is gonna go for the whole summer. One cornhole champion in the locker room, right here at the winning moments.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

I love it. I want to interrupt because you've you've done a pretty good job of making us go at each other. Where do you stand in all of this? In the cornhole? In all of this. Yeah, it's starting to be. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Let's start with the cornhole.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Give me give me something. Who are you beating in this room at cornhole? I haven't lost since 86. I mean, I'm not losing anybody. I'm the reigning champ. Reigning champ of July 4th every single year. A matter of fact, we could play two-on-one. I'll be the both of you guys in cornhole. Okay. When it comes to cornhole, it's just like ping pong. I mean, but that's a whole different uh listen. I know this is your show, but I don't about to I'm about to put you on blast really quick.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

You can put me on blast? Because last year I went to your 4th of July party. You did? And we did play a low cornhole, and I played with my wife, and you lost.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

I I'm pretty sure one, it wasn't part of the tournament. Two, I think I had I think I had I think I had like Nathaniel. I do remember you and your wife showing up to the party, okay, that starts technically at two. We start uh, you know, setting up at 12, so you know what that means. Technically at two, you came at like seven. So like you came. Did you intentionally come late to make sure that John was equilibrium was off and I didn't have the right you know what it was? I didn't have the right kone in my hand as I was throwing it.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

I was there looking for parking for the prior seven hours. There were so many people at that party that there was no parking. Parking's important. I had to take a shuttle from Stanford.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

If you ever if you see this and you're gonna come to the party next uh next Saturday, uh you might park at the church, walk up, or park at the block and cut through. Okay, parking is very tight after the first 30 minutes. It is a big celebration. This year, Claudia, we're going bigger. We're going bigger. 250th anniversary. Um, my uh my neighbors did say maybe there's too much uh uh debris from the fireworks that go into our pools. I offer pool cleaning services, car cleaning services, and uh we got rid of anything that has debris because these big bad boys are like bowling balls, they're just gonna blow up and there'll be no debris. So yeah, we're going green green with the fireworks we're having for the 250th anniversary here of America. So, yes, I will beat both of you guys in Cornhole, no problem whatsoever. That's interesting. Now, if it comes to other sports, listen, man, you play tennis. If I were to step on a on a tennis court with you, I'd argue that I'm more athletic and I could probably run around more at this current stage of life and maybe get to the ball. But you would have me on like a yo-yo string, like, oh, let's just play a game. John's gonna go left. John's gonna go right. Now John's gonna go right, now John's gonna go left. There's no way I can keep up with you, okay? No matter what shape I'm in compared to what shape you're in. You'll have that ball anywhere you want to. So yeah, I'll concede that this is not John is great at every sport, just a cornhole. I don't see me losing. But I will commentate the two of you, and then if you want me to play the champ of the two of you for the ultimate championship, I'm happy to do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

That's funny. He makes a tournament, and he and whoever the winner of all the nonsense gets to play him, so he's nice and fresh. This sounds this sounds awfully familiar to youth sports. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

As a sports person, you know the the first game, like the warm-up game, that person has a better chance of winning than coming cold off the bench. So this actually has better odds. The winner of your game should win the winner of the game against me. The fact that when you lose that game makes it even better for me that I beat you. It's just undisputed.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Undisputed champion. You know what I've decided? I decided you need to go find yourself a partner because Ariane and I both are gonna verse you and your partner. And then it's over for you.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Fair game. Fair game. So we'll do a singles tournament because you guys have to now play singles. I don't have to be involved in it, no win or nothing, just you two in the single side, because you both went at it. Then we can do the team effort. I love the team effort because this is team sports, okay? It's a big portion of our locker room. Like you said, locker room needs to have a team in it, okay? Um, wouldn't just be a solo person or two people in the locker room. Fair point. I'll take uh I'll take Sebastian or Nathaniel, one of our one of our uh uh winning moments interns over here, and my son, whoever's around. I'll take one of them. If I have Nathaniel, that's a negative guaranteed loss.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

There has to be loss. There has to be this is a a a game of beverages. They have to be of age. True. So they are out. You can get Coach Ward if you want to. They can drink Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Coach Ward Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Coach Ward is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

You don't need to drink an alcoholic beverage. Equilibrium doesn't have to be alcoholic beverage. Okay. I mean, you might not play as good. That's fair, but fine. Okay. Either it's gonna be Sebastian or Nathaniel, or if it's forced for another co-host, then I gotta take Ward or Devaney. That's what you're trying to put together right now?

SPEAKER_00 20:59

Yeah, I like the bad.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Odds in our favor, Ariana.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

I like it. Yeah. Yeah. The odds are your favorite. What was that movie? Uh where it's like the odds before No, not to kill a monkey bird.

unknown 21:10

No.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Hunger Games.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Hunger Games. Is it Hunger Games or no?

SPEAKER_04 21:15

Yeah, it is. Yes, Hunger Games. What the heck? This is the locker room.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

I think that was one of the subtitles of the locker room, not the library. Okay. All right, the library. Jeez. Wow. Listen, let's let's we just derailed.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

We totally derailed back.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Bring it back to it. To kill a mocking bird. May the odds be in your favor, forever in your favor. Okay. Uh well, back to the locker room, not the library here uh in our studio in Stanford. Let's now go to the differences of locker rooms, actual locker rooms. Both of you guys played college sports. Uhrianna, let's start with you. What is a locker room like in college, different than the locker room like in high school, actually, for girls?

SPEAKER_04 22:01

It it could be different every game, to be honest. Um I mean, what do you mean? Like game at halftime or just in the locker room in general?

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Well, listen, one, let's remember I didn't play college sports. And two, even if I did play college sports, I would definitely not have gotten caught being in the women's locker room. So you're the only one that can give us that firsthand experience. Let's talk about Pace University, okay? Okay. Where you not only dominated points, thousand points score, Claudio, and 500 plus rebounds. Very few people are in the 1500 club. Uh, and above, you did that. You were also the team captain at one point. So let's go freshman year locker room when you weren't the captain and you had to be on your best behavior. Freshman year locker room. What what's the pace girls basketball locker room like?

SPEAKER_04 22:50

Well, that year we were doing really good. So vibes were high. Um halftime usually were winning, rarely, really, didn't really lose. Um so again, happy we had awesome captains that year. So again, I was a freshman. I kind of was just like kept to myself. Um but yeah, I mean going now from men's and women's locker rooms. I definitely women's locker rooms are more emotional for sure, especially at halftime and how many how many men's locker rooms have you been in?

SPEAKER_01 23:28

No, I'm just I mean, I was that was I'm just guessing. Pretty tight comparison, she was like, men's locker rooms or women's locker rooms. I would definitely say women's locker rooms are more emotional. Have you been in a lot of men's locker rooms? Never never in the middle of a halftime game. Never, never, never.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

I'm just guessing emotional-wise, that's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

When you say emotional, are you referring to like you guys were in there all crying? I mean, sometimes you're winning and you're crying? No. I will tell you this. Listen, let me just interject here. Because I, as a player, was never in a girl's locker room, obviously. Right. But as a coach, Were you weren't a player, you were? No, but as a coach I was because I coached women's soccer. Good point. And I gotta tell you, like the locker room scenes that I've been a part of, and granted, it's not like just the male coaches just walking in there, you know, we have to make sure everyone is good. But even at halftime, it was very um, very serious, very motivated, very determined to get an outcome. Uh so when you even talk about the the emotional side, I'm almost like, oh, I'm scratching my head because I never really saw on the girls' teams that I coached any kind of those emotions. I saw them in other places for sure, but in the locker rooms, whether it was before, um, halftime, or even at the end of the game, I never really left there feeling like there was an overly emotional side to what was happening in their games, you know. They were they were athletes, they're athletes. You're an athlete. You guys are in that moment, it's almost like not to sound like silly, but it's in that in the moment of playing the sport, you guys become just warriors, no different than it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

There is no male, there is no male or female between the line drafts.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

So when you come back at halftime or even at the end of the game or whatever, you still have that warrior mentality. If you had a really tough loss of like a big sectional game or big conference game or something major, after the warrior feeling has subsided, then maybe some of the emotions could could spark out if it was like if you're a senior as your last game or something crazy like that. Sure. But I gotta be honest, it's it was very much like a warrior. You you come back and you just in that mindset of like, what's what do we do next? How do we improve? How do we continue to win? How do we blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

SPEAKER_01 25:42

But I think that I think the word is wrong. I think I think I think people who talk about it, women get a bad rap for being emotional.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Like when you think about the word emotional, we're we're humans, we're all emotional, right? Right? There's no negativity of emotional. Like emotional, emotional can be passionate, right? It could be crying, it could be fighting and screaming. Like, fans are emotional. You don't just say, oh, the women fans are really more emotional. So I think like tell the audience, because if we take it back for a second, and Claudio did a great job of framing it, tell the audience when you look at it and say, it's it's not the stereotypical bad rap that I think women get as a girl dad, we need to fix that. Like, oh, she's so emotional. Listen, I'm emotional. I'm passionate about what I do. We're fighting in the emotion is is human. So when you talk about emotion in the locker room, what is that emotion at halftime? Like, how do you guys express that emotion? You know, is there like like chest bumping? Are you are you, you know, what is that real raw emotion in the locker room?

SPEAKER_04 26:39

Yeah, I mean, definitely would reframe and say passionate is definitely a huge word. But again, depends on how the game is going. But usually we would go in the locker room, our coach would come in, take her a little bit to get in there. So we or the captains would start and like either what is going on, what are we doing, or like let's go, we would run in the locker room yelling, slamming the lockers, um, like that, like we got this, like whatever. But again, depends on what's going on in that moment. But again, always first we get in the locker room and like we're the captains are right away, like what we're doing well, what we're not doing well. Um and if something's horrible going on, someone's having a bad first half, and they're maybe maybe they're pouting, maybe they're like, Oh my god, what am I doing? Like, we talk about that, you know, either how to change that, you know, we have a whole half left, how could we make that better? Um but yeah, very situational.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

So I love this because you talked about someone pouting in the locker room.

SPEAKER_04 27:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

And we've talked about this, this, this from time to time in different conversations. But uh when you see someone pouting in the locker room, okay, like in in in a men's locker room, we'd say, like, come on, man, you got this man up. What do you say in a woman's locker room?

SPEAKER_04 28:00

It really depends. See, this is I we say this, it depends, but I like hate pouting. So right, I've had horrible first halves. I'm in there like, what the hell? My head's down. I'm like more just like mad, not like pouting, like, oh my god, I'm feeling sorry for myself. Um again depends on why you're pouting. If you're pouting because it's playing time, or you're pouting because you scored no points, but you are 0 for 10 and you're forcing up everything and you're not you know, like it's it really depends on why they're pouting. If they're pouting because it's playing time, something that is not meaningful to the game, like to be honest, I wouldn't don't even pay attention to it.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

All right, but what's what's the if we were to say, if Chloe was gonna come up to me because I'm pouting, uh, you know, like if I'm pouting for the coffee machine waiting to be made and I don't have my espresso, he comes in like John, what's wrong, man? Come on. Come on, let's go. We got a show to put a man up, all right? All right, man, I'm just waiting for my espresso. Don't have to be so, so, so aggressive. Do you say man up? Yeah. Do you say women up?

SPEAKER_04 29:13

No. What's the term?

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Yeah, no, I definitely don't know women up, baby. Let's go.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

Yeah, no, I definitely wouldn't say man up or like that. I wouldn't say that. Um I was like, what's going on? You good? Like, we got a whole half left, like pick your head up, like let's go. Like that's it.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Like Claudio, that's why she's that's why she was a captain, all right? She avoids those things. She was a captain. She'll coach you up, right? She's a killer.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Uh you know something. That's why she's a kid. Let me let me interject here. Let me say something. Because I I have I as I as she's answering and as I'm listening to the question, I I almost have two answers. Yeah. I have the answer of when I was a player, and then I have the answer of when I was a coach. And I was way immature as a player, and I was way more mature as a coach. And as a coach, not only was I my my rule, my my responsibilities were different, but I'm also understanding the environment and the situational stuff way different than I did as a player. As a player, I was very much like the same thing, like man, either man up or stop your bitching or let's get going or or whatever, right? As I became a coach, I was never, I didn't, I didn't, that's not a good approach. So I always opted for like agreed trying to like calm you and allow you to be in that space so that hopefully you can get yourself out of there or give you some a talk that's gonna uplift you versus telling you to stop the nonsense because telling somebody stop your nonsense, quit your bitching, quit your crying, man up, you're almost antagonizing that the set the same feeling that they're going through. So as a coach, I understood that let's just have a talk. Let's maybe take a like if you got pulled out, let's walk down this way, have a quick talk, vent it out, get it out, and I'll I'll I'll be the sounding board for that. And then it's like, all right, cool. So let's let's what's what do we do different? So if you have another opportunity, how do we go out there and do something different? So it was a much different approach. Whereas in my younger playing days, it was not. It was very like like a caveman, like, you gotta do, you gotta fight, you gotta war, war, war, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

I could definitely agree with that, you know, being a grad assistant the fifth year. I wasn't on the court, so well, well, fancy words.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Fancy words, help the audience understand what what you what you just meant by being a gratis for the fifth year again.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

Yeah, so I would did my master's at pace for my fifth year, so I coached while I did my master's, so I was a graduate assistant. Um and again, yeah, I'm not on the court. Um listen, I was passionate as a coach as well, but I'm not on the court, you know, making decisions and doing things for them. So, you know, right, when they came off the court, something was going on, they're mad, they're pissed. Like, yeah, I I I sat them down, talked to them, like, hey, you're, you know, gave them that little, you know, hey, you're good, like move on, next play. Yeah, I definitely had very immature moments as a player as well. And, you know, some of them I regret, some of them I'm like, no, I don't regret, because there was a time where I pulled players aside and was like, yo, like we got a whole half left, like let's go. Especially someone who's very valuable on the court. And then there's times where I would come in the locker room and I would say, like, in a general statement to the locker room, who I was pissed at a few people or whatever, and I would say, yo, like this cannot happen. What are you doing? Pick it up. We are not pouting anymore.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

She's so political. She's so political in her answer.

SPEAKER_04 32:34

I would try not to, I would try not to, you know, be like You know, I didn't want to make them more upset, you know, but general, and they probably knew it was about them, but you know, general statement like, yo, like this is not what we're doing, pick it up. We're not pouting, like we got a whole half left, like let like that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

I laugh at her if she's right, though. She's absolutely right. I also think that it also those moments are very like sporadic moments, a game, a situation, whatever. So it doesn't even almost it doesn't, especially as a player, player to player, it doesn't even matter what comes out of your mouth. What does matter is what's the relationship that you have built with your team, teammates, uh, that in that moment, it's out of love, it's out of passion, it's out of like, hey, we're we're maybe screwing up, maybe you're screwing up. But we've built such a good relationship throughout our season, throughout a couple of years playing together, that in this very moment, yes, I have to be strong on you, have to be hard on you, I have to tell, hey, cut this nonsense out. You gotta step it up. Whatever, however, harsh that may come out, it's okay if that has been built. Because I've been around in locker rooms where you know a captain is not a good captain, and hopefully nobody's listening back on this, but because it was so long ago. But it's like they're they're not, you weren't in the sport in Purdue. None of that. They're uh they've gotta play so many sports and so many different teams. No receipts. Oh, but you know, they they don't have a good relationship with with their teammates. Yes. So in that one moment where they go at you, it's almost like, word? Like maybe, maybe we need to fight.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

And then it completely detracts from what you're saying. You're you're right. And I think the problem is high school sports, okay, is that usually the captain is the so-called best player. I love now there's a lot of co-captains because just because you're the best player doesn't make you a good captain. There's a great saying where it's um the sports is mindset. Everything is mindset, but it's it's get out of your head into your body. Like you have to coach them to get out of your head right now at halftime and get into your body. You know this, you've trained for this, you're ready for this, you can hit those shots you've been missing in the first half, but let's get out of your head and into your body. And I will say that one, not the best player makes the best captain. And two, what you were just saying, Claudio, is why I love team sports. And I don't care it how unathletic your child is when they're younger, put them in some team sport. There is so many like soccer, softball, baseball, put them in a team sport because what you need to know right here in our locker room and in business is how to work together, how to motivate the employee or the coworker or uh the talent, how to motivate each other in the right way. And so you said it great, man. Like sometimes you need to be uh, hey man, like you're in your head, get out of your head, you know, man up or stop doing this, whatever. And sometimes you need to be like, hey, what's what's up? What's going on? What's what what's in your head? Like, help me help you type thing. Right. And I don't know any school. And throughout our our our season, we'll talk about it, but I don't know any school, any class that I've ever seen that teaches you as much as sports teaches you of how to be in the real world. Like, do you guys know like a like a I mean for myself, how I've gotten this far in life is because of sports.

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Yes, I could totally agree with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

I mean, there's gonna be a biased answer. We're all athletes, and we all grew up the athlete way. Uh you're right. I I don't know a life without sports or athletics being part of my life. So I I couldn't even tell you what it would feel like not to have experienced something like that. So of course, all of our answers, and without even knowing how deep your athletic backgrounds, both of you guys go, I know it's the same because we all were part of a team. We all had to figure out how to survive uh and play with our teammates and learn from our teammates and make those relationships. And we all did the same thing. We all went through it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Right, but in in our classes, I mean, listen, you you've traveled, so for those who don't know, oh Claudio, right? He joins us today in Stanford as part of our locker room crew through the way of Spain, Chile, then Harrison, and right now here in the studio with us in Stanford.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

I decided to think my talent's the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

You've had right, right. You've had so many different cultures and so many different classrooms than then compared to Ariana and I, in any classroom, in any country that you've been in, I don't think, I'm gonna venture to say that I don't think any class has given you enough preparation in life for what you do on a daily basis, then even a sport of like maybe, maybe eighth, maybe eight years old, eight, uh maybe eleven or ten years old, even playing like some some rec league where it's a and I hate this, I hate these towns, but the blue ribbon towns where everybody gets a trophy, okay, and we're not keeping score, like, no, but just to play together or how to manage something, even if you're not the captain. Like, hey, how do I learn how to listen? Claudio's the captain, he's coming at me in a harsh way. How do I take that and listen and trust that he has my best interests at heart because we're on the same team.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Well, but I'll I I'll I'll double down on this. I do believe it's it's you gotta put the work in. Any captain has to put the work in. If your relationship is not strong with your team, when those moments come around and you kind of come out of pocket, you know, you're gonna get some players that don't respond well. You're gonna get some that do. That that's a very much a personality thing and and an arrogance thing, and in that moment, a very stubborn thing to happen. But if that captain has not done their due diligence throughout the the time that they've known their teammates to really bond, to really be about team. The best teams that win are the teams that are completely, I mean, you said it almost with every championship that that that interview that we had in the sports that we did, all had amazing chemistry, all like hang hung out after uh outside of their their sport. They would hang out like watching movies or doing this or doing that. And it's in those very non-sports moments that this this group of of this team will eventually create that bond and figure out that they like each other, that they rock with each other, they can have each other's backs, and then when they're at war, that's when you know that you've really connected because they have your back, they're going out for you. And if somebody screams at you, it's okay because you know it's not, it's like your parents screaming at you. Are you really getting mad at your parents? I mean, you are gonna get mad at the second, but you're gonna come back, you're not gonna leave the house, you're not gonna go back to dinner, you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna ask them for the allowance that that week or whatever. It's it's still your family. No, you were you were you were 99% right there.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

We threw the parents in there, and I have to have to have to have to disagree. Every other point you made is spot on. Get Aryan.

SPEAKER_04 39:15

I also think it has to be a lot, a lot to do with res respect. When captains don't build like you said, you need to build a relationship with your teammates and your players. But when they don't respect you, it's it's horrible. Like they're they won't respond well. Or like as a captain, you should be able to tell your teammates like what the hell are you doing? Or do this, do that. You're supposed to tell them what to do. But when they don't respect you and you don't build that kind of relationship with them, then it's not good. It doesn't go positive way. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

So you guys remember that movie, uh uh, I think it's Miracle on Ice? Yes. Yeah, 80. Right? Okay, look at Claudio's face, like, come on. Yes, remember that movie? Come on. Greatest. One of the greatest hockey movies ever. He's like, uh I I wa I watched it last night, uh, for that matter. Oh, you're getting your heart Brooks on?

unknown 40:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Look at this guy. So, so he he said it best on the ice after after I think after they lost to the Russians in Madison Square Garden, they got embarrassed. He put everybody out. And he was like, uh, Claudio, what team do you play for? Okay. Boston College, Ariana, what team do you play for? And whatever other hockey town college there was, right? And he kept running them and running them. And it wasn't till that point where it's like, okay, give me your name and who you play for. I'm Claudio Valenzuela, and I play for the United States of America. And that's that moment where it clicked like the name on the front of your jersey is more important than the name on your back. Yes. I use that in business talks and leadership conversations all the time. Such a great movie and such a great line. The name on the front of your jersey, right, is more important than the name on the back of your jersey. That should be a staple in every locker room for that matter. Because to your point, no matter how good you are, or if you're killing it that day because your day is on and someone else is holding you back, and you're getting double teamed because this player is not doing their job. And even if they're not good enough, just move to the other side of the court. And your frustration, like, hey, who do you play for? Right. Right? I play for Putnam Valley High School. Okay. I play for Harrison High School. We're all egotistically individuals that need to have that grit and that mindset going into the game. You should say, I'm the best player in this locker room. Or when you started uh playing hockey, like, you know what? I'm going to be the best player in this locker room. And then you become it. You have to have that mindset as a warrior, as a killer in that case. But then you settle in, and hey, it's us versus them. And that's what I love about team sports and putting that together. And yes, Miracle on Ice. Okay. If you haven't seen it, you are. I mean, you might not be American for that matter, if you haven't seen that movie. I don't really know. Okay. It's a they should show it in the schools. They should show that movie in schools, other than like David and Goliath. No, Miracle on Ice. Okay. Uh Miracle on Ice. Uh, what's the big football movie?

SPEAKER_04 42:09

Remember the Titans. Remember the Titans? They showed that in my school. They should show that in your school. That's another fantastic. That is a good one.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

That's historical. We'll have a whole episode on sports movies and what it does to you, why you're watching it. Like I remember as a kid watching Rocky, I get in so much trouble after watching Rocky. Okay, because the first thing I would do is go beat up my two little brothers.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

All right.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Now, now, okay, now they're my younger brothers, okay, because if if you ever see me with them, you guys both know they're both bigger than me. You're the little one. Okay, right. I'm the little brother now, okay? The little old old man brother. Yeah. But no, it's these things like, and I think, at least for me, they trigger that in me because I I am an athlete, right? I am a warrior. And I think what Claudio said is something that's been sticking in my head since you said it. Uh, because we're talking about men and women, right? Men and women's sports, men and women locker rooms in this first episode. When you think about entertainment, right? Sports is basically entertainment as well now, but you think about entertainment like movies, everyone's an actor. It's hilarious when you think about it, like you just won this actor award. You're an actress. They added a name for you afterwards, but you win the best actor award in a female category. They kept it male-dominated, even in the word. Athletes, even from day one. It's been a male-dominated world, it's been a male-dominated sports in the beginning of it. Okay. And the men were the athletes. Was it right? Wasn't it like World War II where things really started to come together when the men couldn't play? We had another great movie, League of Their Own. We had women playing baseball, right? Flag football. All these things happen. But for some reason, we're all athletes. And I love that compared to like Hollywood, where oh, you won the best actor award. I'm an actress. No. Best actor award. Here's your here's your uh your trophy. Here's your Oscar, okay? Sports? Never. You're an athlete, she's an athlete, I'm an athlete, and together we're just warriors. This gender didn't matter. And I don't know why it was that way. Whoever did that in the Webster dictionary, give you guys credit. Probably was a woman, Claudio, who put that together back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Yeah, definitely. Definitely in that case.

SPEAKER_04 44:21

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

Okay. So as we come to uh begin to wrap up our first episode here in the locker room, which uh there were some spikes. It took Claudio like 10 minutes to tell you that he was gonna beat you in uh in a sport. Okay. Oh it's gonna happen. If you call corner.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

At this point, we're not even talking anymore. Now it's game on. Now it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

Game on, game on. True athletic side. You want to respond to that?

SPEAKER_03 44:45

Uh I don't have anything to say. The results. The results will tell. The results are not.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

She's putting us her inner captive. Before you end on this, do you remember when we did the the uh the media uh the media day? Yeah. Um and you had the rapid fire questions, and one was um, oh my god, uh, are you a shit talker or a silent assassin? Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Are you a shit talker or a silent assassin? So, right, so that's the question. So I I want that question for all of us, and we'll say. But there is a caveat here. Okay. In my younger years, I was always a silent assassin. I never talk shit. However, now my old age, because I'm deficient in many other parts of my game, my mouth is not one of them. So now I'm trying to like talk as much shit as I can to throw you know the mind game off, and then hopefully my whatever little athletic ability I still have comes through. So that's my answer today.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Are you a shit talk or a silent assassin?

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Silent assassin for sure. A little bit like you said, more my younger years, definitely silent assassin. My younger years. You know what I mean. Like five years ago.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

When you were 12.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

I mean, my my younger year.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

In high school, sorry, in high school.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

It was hilarious when we were doing the uh the like the bios and stuff. I got three decades out of like competitive sports. This one, one year out, she's like fresh. My man, I was I was talking to my Well, you were my teacher, so we do know that you were, you know.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

Right. So I I was literally talking the other day of like how you know you've actually become old when you start saying things like, Hey, when I was a kid, pizza was a dollar, right? Like I remember my dad saying, When I was a kid, the movies were only 25 cents. All right, now I know you're old. In this particular episode, right here we're talking about it, and she's talking about being young. Okay, I'm gonna put it right here, Claudia. It would make you really, really happy. Get your hammer. Okay, I'm old enough to be her father, right? That's the ultimate age drop of you're old. I'm old enough to be her father, and she's talking about you know when I was in my younger years. I was definitely a silent assassin. Now right now Silent Assassin or Shit Tucker.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

Silent assassin. I'll just say that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

See, that's how you know she's young. That's another way, because I'll tell you right now what he said. All right, I have to play my son. Okay, as you guys know, he's 18 years old, had a great basketball career here in uh Blindbrook, had a great senior year. Let me say this publicly. He's gonna bust you down. You can you can see it. You can see it. It's gonna be live. It's gonna be my guy. That's my live on Instagram, right? Sebastian, he should, he should win. He's 6'2. I'm five foot nothing, as Claudia would say. Yeah, five foot foot-nothing. Uh uh, he's six two. He's in the prime of it, he's 18 years old. I'll be 48. And he's okay. I'll be 48 in a week. He can dunk a basketball, okay? I could dunk the basketball. You bring that rim down to like six feet, okay? And I'll windmill that right on top of your head in six foot basketball, okay? Give me one of those like tinker tots that you give to the little kids. The pool one pool ones. I'll come exactly, okay? Pool is hard to get out of the pool in that case, right? No way. Everything says he should bust my ass to a game of 15. And when I was younger, okay, I didn't talk shit, but I wasn't a silent assassin. I did whatever I could to get into your head. If I had to cheer loud when I was catching because you didn't like the noise, I'd cheer louder. I'd compliment you if I had to play like, oh, you're like, you're the best player here. You got nothing to lose. Don't worry about it. I mean, listen, if if if you lose, they're gonna laugh at you. If if if we win, it's just whatever. You're the better player. Shit talking, though, to your point, Claudio, is a tool that every old person needs in their bag. Yeah. Because Sebastian, from a talent standpoint, I mean, listen, man, he's 18. He can dunk a basketball. Right. I have to use veteran moves, like a little bit of a hook on the on the on the hip so I can get around him. Not enough where you can call a foul, okay, or complain about it, but enough for me to get it so he can't block me. I'm definitely gonna use that, Sebastian. He's not gonna watch this anyway. I'll give all the secrets away, okay? I'm definitely gonna use the quick setback jumper, and I'm definitely going to use every mindset thing that I can do. Like, hey man, I'm 48 years old. I'm five foot nothing, you're six foot two, you can dunk, you're 18. If you lose live here on Instagram, you're gonna be embarrassed. They're just gonna say, Oh, you beat an old man. Okay, but when I beat you, when I take this three right now, dribble purse, take a step back, shoot it in your face, when I Larry bird your ass and tell you what I'm gonna do, and then do it, it's gonna be in your head and the points just trickle, and I just win crowned champion.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

I'm not gonna lie. The way I see things, the more you talk, the less points you get. Uh you may get zero points. Ooh, a shutout. I'm team Sebastian.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Are you predicting a shutout?

SPEAKER_00 49:27

I am team Sebastian. Are you predicting a shutout right here? I am Team Sebastian.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

I I hear you. I hear you, but that wasn't the question. Are you predicting a 15-0 shutout? I'm not even gonna score a matchup.

SPEAKER_00 49:36

Listen, every dog has his day. You're gonna get lucky. You'll probably you'll probably chuck one up.

SPEAKER_04 49:40

You said you'll get lucky.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

You'll chuck one up and it'll go in by chance or hit a branch and go in, something like that. You'll get you'll get a point out there. All right, so games to 15. What's the what's the spread?

SPEAKER_01 49:48

I've never seen you play, so I don't know. I just seen your mouth. See the backtrack? You see the backtrack? All of a sudden, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you might just get shut out. You might get lucky. And then now we're gonna backtrack. Now where I gotta put my money where my mouth is, we're gonna backtrack. You're getting five points. Five points. Five points. All right, two baskets. Ariane special. Threes and twos. Oh. To 15. First of all, we can have a whole episode on ones and twos. Ones and twos is not even basketball. There's no four-pointer in basketball. That's what like it's just it's insanity. Yeah, these kids these days plays in the ones and twos. Okay. You're part of the problem for the ones and twos. It was your people. It was your generation of people. Ones and twos. And we're off the rail together. Exactly. Okay, ones and twos. Well, listen, that's what happens here in the locker room. We have spirited debates. We are very emotional here in the locker room, having fun, putting it together, and talking about great topics. Today was our first episode. Uh, we like you guys uh to like and follow, subscribe, join us in our conversation. It was a very playful episode moving forward. We will continue the locker room play as it should be, and we'll bring you some serious topics of how you train from high school to college when playing sports, which Ariana and Claudio know a ton about, because there is a big difference between high school sports and college, and that summer in between is so important to not just graduate and party, but to put the work in to start your college career off. We'll have episodes like that. We'll have a tremendous amount of uh learnings of workouts to work ethic to perks like people doing your laundry in the locker room when you become an athlete in college. All for the next episodes throughout the summer. I'm so happy to be here with these amazing talented athletes, Ariana and Claudio. Thank you for joining us here today in the locker room. A winning moments series. More to come.