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Reflection, Emotion, and the Power of Poetry with Sharon Arsego

Nutmeg Lit Fest Season 2 Episode 3

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What happens when poetry becomes a space for healing, reflection, and truth?


In this episode of the Nutmeg Lit Fest Podcast, host Janaya Hernandez sits down with Sharon Arsego, author of Behind the Blue: Poetry & Prose, to explore the emotional depth and personal power behind her writing.


Sharon shares how poetry became more than just words on a page — it became a way to process life, capture moments, and connect with others on a deeply human level.


Together, we dive into:

• The inspiration behind Behind the Blue

• How poetry can hold emotion, memory, and meaning

• The courage it takes to share your voice through writing

• Why storytelling matters — even in its quietest form


This conversation is a reminder that poetry isn’t just read… It’s felt.

Tune in, reflect, and let the words speak.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the NetMek Litfest Podcast where Story Speak. This is a space that celebrates authors, storytellers, poets, and creatives from Connecticut and beyond. Here we are lifting voices, sharing stories, and spotlighting the creativity that brings our literary community to life. Whether you're a writer, a reader, or simply someone who loves a powerful story, this podcast is for you. Get ready for conversations that inspire, connect, and celebrate the magic of storytelling. This is the Nutmeg Lip Fest Podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Hello, hello, hello. We are back with the Nutmeg Lip Fest Podcast, and we are getting into it today. I'm very excited about today's. So this is where stories come to life through the voice of the authors who write them and the moments that inspire them. I'm your host, Janea Hernandez. In each episode, we take time to slow down and explore the story behind the page, the why, the journey, and the impact. And today's conversation is one that invites us to pause, reflect, and feel. I don't know about you, but I'm ready for all three of those. So I'm very excited that Sharon is here joining us, and she is the author behind the blue poetry and prose. Did I say that right? A collection that explores emotion, vulnerability, and the quiet moments that shape who we are. I hope I did it justice, Sharon. I think you did. Thank you. You know, I try, I try to nail it every now and then. I'm gonna give the platform to you to introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_02

Great, thank you so much. I appreciate this opportunity. My name is Sharon Arseco, and I'm um originally from Connecticut, and that's where I still am. Um, I currently work for the city of Bristol and live in town, so that's been a great uh pace for me because I'm able to have a good uh work-life balance, and that's actually what really helped prompt me to finally produce my first few books is being able to dedicate the time to writing. And um, I've been writing since I was about nine years old, which I find in my journey with meeting other authors is kind of around the time a lot of them started in that time frame.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, that's interesting that you say that, and I I would love to explore one day and dabble in. What pushed you to start writing at nine years old?

SPEAKER_02

So I love words and I love language, and my family is full of readers, full of creative people, and I didn't really have like a traditional children's library, so nowadays, or at least other kids when I was growing up, there were those libraries like uh book clubs you could subscribe to. My family didn't have that kind of money, so I would go to flea markets, tag sales, um like country fairs, and take my few dollars and go to different booths and pick out book books, and so I was actually reading at a higher level than I probably would have normally done just being with the school books. And um, language is very important to my family. I love the play on words of things and how things sounded and the imagery that the words paint. So I just started, you know, I had a couple mentors as well outside the family that were writers and they kind of took me under their wing. One of my favorite things ever was um a little putty colored portable manual typewriter that I bought when I was like nine or ten, something like that. Yeah, I had my own money and uh you know, doing chores and stuff. And I just loved, you know, typing. I love the sound of the typewriter and I love the click, click, click. And I wrote on onion skin paper. It was like super thin stuff, and some of my first poems I still have archived uh on that, so it's kind of cool to go back to where it all started.

SPEAKER_01

You did you say you have some of your first writings?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Wow, they're like in a family scrapbook that I have, so they're really delicate, so I don't really like take them out too often to you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's amazing. You use the one powerful word that resonates with so many of us, and it was that keyword mentor. How does your mentor shape you into just finding the courage to actually publish books? Because you said you had multiple books, so we'll tap into this as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So as far as mentors go, so as a young child, we had an older gentleman friend. Now, nowadays it might sound nefarious, but it absolutely was not. Um, he was uh vetted by my family, you know, friend of the family kind of thing. And he was a writer, he's a poet. I actually have one of his poems hanging on my wall here at my home. And um, he would he would message, he would uh send letters to my sister and I. And if it was a special birthday or something, he would do a crossword or write a poem that celebrated us and turning 10 or whatever what it was. And it was just um a sweet way to have someone encourage the fact that I like to write and I liked words and vocabulary. And then over the years, I've had professors, English teachers, um, close family, close friends that I've made through the years who are really super cheerleaders for me. Um, my closest friend that I've had now for 15 years, he would refer to my first book as my first child, and he want to know how the how how the baby was going, coming along and everything. So it's kind of like, you know, that kind of that kind of mentorship where you get a cheerleader or you get someone who's also a writer that will kind of walk alongside you.

SPEAKER_01

So yes, I love that. And I feel I as a mentee and a mentor myself, I feel it's very important to have someone that's going to encourage you because sometimes you don't get that in your family, right? You your family's there to support you in other ways, but sometimes when we want to turn a hobby into a dream or or it's a you know, obvious talent, that mentor probably comes from someone else. So I'm I'm very grateful that you tap on today that word. Give us a run through of what books you have published, please.

SPEAKER_02

So I have um actually I have a copy here. I have Cadence, which was my first book of poetry. I'll show you the cover here. This is Cadence. I love that. That came out in um 2023. Actually, just about a just about uh last month. It would have been it next month, it'll be um three years. Wow, this is 30 years of poetry collected. So I had when I graduated college in 92, I wanted to, I was an English studies major and I wanted to publish and actually record myself reading my poetry, of course, back in 92. It was CDs, yes, just going into CDs and now it's streaming, so it's a little more feasible for me. But um, so I I to this the first book real quick came out because between my own health issues, a family member's health issues, and I don't know if anyone's familiar with uh Bristol, Connecticut, we had a police tragedy a few years ago that uh really got to the heart of our town. And um I I in reflection at the time I thought, well, goodness, if I don't do this now, I've been wanting to do this for so long, when am I going to do this? And so for about four months, I'd work, come home, have a quick meal, and then sit down and write till like 11, 12 o'clock at night, and then do the process again several days in a row. And I was pulling together Facebook posts because some of those pieces were only on Facebook. They were a quick little thing I put up and they were like a uh seed thought for a poem. Oh, this is a big yeah, dot matrix paper. I was pulling my, you know, from the 90s and 2000s, pulling my poems together. I had I'm so not a planner. I had stuff everywhere. And I started mapping out, I started learning about self-publishing on my own. You know, there wasn't a lot really in in my area that I knew to reach out to. And in about four or five months from pretty much November until April, I had my book out, my first book. Wow, and I chose Cadence as the name because it means to me, well, I know this, you know, the de definition in the dictionary, but it's that rhythm, it's that how you speak, and then how if someone else is reading the work, how it sounds out loud, and then just the cadence of our lives. And so I I wrote it in sort of a multi-idea for the name for the title.

SPEAKER_01

So that's book one. Yeah. Now, what's our next book?

SPEAKER_02

Book two is Behind the Blue. Um, and this was pretty much it's a totally different take, whereas Cadence is um nature infused, a lot of reflection. So looking out at the natural world and then learning from it, taking lessons from it. And this the behind the blue, the idea is what's going on. I have blue eyes, so what's going on behind my eyes? My blue eyes, there's that famous who song. I kind of got inspired by that. Um and then I think it's the who anyway, and um then the thinking of blue mood, right? When you're in a blue mood and you're in a funk, and I deal with anxiety and some not so much depression anymore, but anxiety. Um, and the idea is that the sections of this book bring you from the if you start at the beginning and read through, it's from starts with the darkness, the heaviness of life, and as you go through their shades of gray, but you're moving towards the light, you're not you're not staying in the darkness. And then um, so I was working on this, bless you. I was working on this uh book, and I was diagnosed with uterine cancer. Um March, uh actually, yeah, four uh two years ago this this month. I and actually yesterday was two years ago I had my surgery, and I'm I'm completely free of the cancer. I go through my screenings, but they got everything. But I got the call, thank you. I got the call um March 19th. I was at work. I came home, I had the draft of behind the blue. I I called my sister and my closest friend to come sit with me at home. And in the meantime, while I was waiting, I was reading through my draft, and agree understandably, the first part of the book is darker than anything I've ever written before. My sister was taken back. She likes nice, warm, fuzzy stuff, and she's like, wow, that's really dark. So, but I read it through the eyes of someone who now knew she has cancer and in a week was gonna have the surgery, and I didn't know what to expect. And it reads it read differently. So, actually, I have a letter to the reader in the beginning encouraging, first of all, people to get cancer screenings. Uh, early detection really saved me, plus great doctors, but also uh the idea that it reads differently when you're going through something. So, someone may pick this up and say, Oh, these are nice poems, this one is cool or whatever. And then someone who's going through something dark or difficult might read it. And I believe, like I did, even my own work is going to have a different feel and take on some of the pieces. That's my idea.

SPEAKER_01

Love how you broke that down. I also sure that it is a lifer book, right? So we all go through you know different things at different stages, and whatever season you're going through, you're going to get a different take on that. I believe that for sure. Kudos to you for thank you for being able to do it and be able to use your own words, as you said earlier. Like, words have power, and and you, you know, you really tap on that power of words and being able to utilize your own work, which you were paying it for for others, but you know, pull yourself through um, you know, something and and your family members as well, because to your point, your sister, like you said, likes warm fuzzy, and she was probably able to resonate with that story differently because you were going through something and she was going through something with you, sure. Which segues right into our next question and not on purpose, right? Because poetry often feels deeply personal and sometimes even vulnerable when you know you really read poetry. So, what drew you to express your thoughts and experience in this form? Because this was before the diagnosis, right?

SPEAKER_02

Right. Oh, I've been writing for decades. So um, I believe there's something to for me, like, yes, I write short stories, and eventually after I finish this book, I'm moving into a memoir about my father, late father, and then I'm I have some short stories. So I I do write fiction, but there's something about the fact that poetry really doesn't have a lot of rules, uh right? So unless you're going to do a Shakespearean sonnet, which I have done recently for a book, you the unless you're doing something really specific, if you're writing a novel, there's certain grammar and sentence structure and punctuation. Poetry says, forget all that, just write. And I feel like there's more freedom there, and that really speaks to my my personality. I don't like a lot of uh rules and regulations. I mean, I'm a law-abiding citizen, of course. I want to encourage that. Okay, but I mean, as a writer, I don't, I don't really I I like the fact, I should say it in a more positive, you know, in the positive tone. I like the fact that I can write a sentence and it doesn't need any, I mean, yes, it should be the word should be spelt right and you know, chosen carefully.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the people those flag things, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Right. But I don't have to be, I don't have to subscribe to this certain standards of writing that other genres really need to in order to be considered serious. Um and and I that's one of the things I really love about it. Plus, I I'm I see the I see the picture that I want to describe of my experience, and then I write about it. And then I get to choose the words. I love alliteration, I love repeating phrases, usually like at the beginning and the end of a poem, you'll find that. But to me, that's actually goes back to scriptures, that goes back to all other types of historical writing where someone will repeat a line or phrase, be or even if you look at some of the previous presidential um speeches, yeah. The orators will repeat, you know, uh a phrase as they start each sentence. It's to get the point across and get it to stick. And so I love that kind of uh patterning when I'm writing. Now, did you do research on how to captivate an audience when writing poetry, or you just let it be and so I I didn't really do research, but because my degree is in uh English studies and I had some wonderful professors, I went to what's now the University of St. Joseph um in West Harvard. It was St. Joseph College back in my day. And I actually had my senior year, we had a, I guess she'd be like an I don't know if an adjunct professor or a guest professor, Maureen Owens, who is an American uh wonderful American poet, and she really fostered a lot in our class uh to to encourage and also educate on you know the life of poetry. My dean of English studies was and is a prolific published poet. So I had a lot of like hands-on immediate access to understanding the hows and the history of it. But for me, I just kind of rip, I just let it rip and go. Let it go. Sometimes I'll just be sitting in my car and I enjoy a coffee or whatever, and I'm like, oh wait, I have to write this down. I like how this sounds. Um, one thing Maureen Owen taught me was writing a wall of words. This is great for an author of um any genre, really. Right, just keep writing until all that kind of surface stuff and stuff comes out, leave it for a day or two, go back and pull out the words and phrases that really stick with you, and then run with those because it's like a wall of words, wall of words, yeah. You just set a timer, 10 minutes, maybe. Just don't don't worry about punctuation, grammar, spelling, get it all out. Because you know, sometimes it's like you have to do a purge before you get to the good stuff, yes. So that's kind of what it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's a good one. I uh if you're new here, I love a hashtag. So a wall of words is a great hashtag. I do. I love it. I love it. It's how I remember, like you know, it's kind of like a song. It's a it's a hashtag for me. Yeah, absolutely. Love it, I love it. Use another powerful word. Um, you can you you you're very fitting to be a poet, I should say. Um, thank you. Access is another powerful word, and you were you know fortunate to have great access and mentors. Yes. What about those, you know, future authors that don't have that same access, can't take a class, but you know, have been writing for years as well. What it what's your encouragement for them and how should they continue learning if they don't have that same option?

SPEAKER_02

So I am a huge proponent of your local library.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um, they have just about every I believe every program, at least our Bristol Public Library, is free to attend. Um, I'm actually attending a uh certain type of art class at a library in a different town in next month, and it's free. I'm not even a resident of the town, but they're off it, they have, you know, so I've actually led like blackout poetry style workshops, two of them at the local library, free. So all supplies given, you leave with a finished piece, more education, um, more encouragement. The other thing too is networking. So like not Meg Lit Fest, right? Yes, we're all published, but if you go to one of our events, you can make connections, you can talk to people. Where are you gonna be next? Go to an open mic. Um, especially if you're a poet, go to an open mic. Although I will I do encourage actually authors of fiction to go to open mics, as long as they're not strictly for poetry. Um, they're they're welcome, you know, when when it's open like that, and take your five minutes, do a quick, you know, 30-second introduction, read your um up to a climactic part in one of your books, and leave them hanging wanting more, and then make connections afterwards. If you go to these events as a participant, um, as a guest, speak to the people that performed. If there's someone that really spoke to you and you're like, that's somebody I want to talk to, make sure you do. Don't be afraid. We all started somewhere. We all started somewhere. We didn't start at the at the top of our game or even the middle of our game. We're we all started at the bottom somewhere. So be bold, be brave, and reach out and network. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

I am making my wall of words just based off the words that you are saying. Access, mentor, networking, like connection, all very useful words. Not even not even just in the author like world, just that translates into many careers. You know, Sharon, we we were gonna have to do like a whole Rollodex episode with you and your and your positive wall of words. I'm I'm telling you, the that's great advice you just gave, right? I don't libraries are kind of they're around, but if they're not as popular because you know, everyone is reading and everyone has a book club and and bookstagram, please don't cancel me, guys. I love a bookstagram. Um, you know, are very popular, but tapping into your local library to your point, it's free game, right?

SPEAKER_02

It's free game, right? And the cool thing, real quick about libraries, right, is it's really the only place you can go that doesn't require you purchase anything, right? Yeah, if you're gonna go to per coffee, you gotta get a coffee and then you might buy a muffin or whatever. If you're gonna go somewhere else, you've got to buy an entry ticket to participate. Libraries, you show up, like even the library card is free. And in Connecticut, my understanding is you can use them in any library. That is true, yes.

SPEAKER_01

If you have if you register with one of your public libraries, your library card can is good at any public library in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_02

And many of them, if you're looking at furthering your own uh self-educating, right, and self-um enlightening yourself. I love art and I have found that when I go to museums, I know they have a cost. Many of these libraries offer free passes if you have a library card and you don't have to take it out from your library, the pass. So you can get a free pass, get a reduced cost pass, go to a museum, check out an artist, and I'm telling you, what you see will inspire you further uh to write. They also have other events there that might you know be of motivation for you. So it's again community and looking for those uh low, low cost or free ways to get in your foot in the door.

SPEAKER_01

I love this. I have one more question. I mean, I can pick your I can pick your brain all day long, but I have one more question before we get into one of our favorite segments, and it was was there a moment that you realized your writing wasn't just personal, it was something meant to be shared. What was that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's a great question. That's a great question. Um I feel like behind the blue was more an example of that. Um cadence was really for me, cadence was like a Said, if I'm not gonna do this now, when am I going to do it? It wasn't an ego or like a vanity thing, but it was like this is important to me. And I was going to open mics and I was always getting great feedback. So, like, when when am I gonna put it out and and when am I gonna do this? It was really a me project, and then as I would read open mics from the book and I would share and I my journey and I would make contacts in the community. I'm like, oh, what I write is actually resonating with people, people are coming up to me. So, in in cadence, I reference trips to White Memorial Conservation Center in Litchfield. There's actually some poems written because I went there and had time in nature. And I've had people say, Oh, I volunteered there. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know that pond. I have the same feeling when I'm there, and that kind of thing. And then when I moved to behind the blue, it was, you know, mental health is a very serious crisis and issue around the world, but especially, you know, I'm in the States, so that's where my focus is. I experience it personally, and as I would read my deeper, you know, deeper sort of topic poems, I I would see it in people's faces that they were connecting. And it's a it's a bridge to help to help people, you know, maybe hopefully find help or realize they're not alone. And, you know, here's this person standing up there reading something very personal, and I see myself in what she's saying. And to me, that's when I realized, you know, I need to continue writing.

SPEAKER_01

I love it, I love it, and we're gonna share some of it. Yes, one of our favorite moments on that Meglift Fest podcast is a segment we call From the Page. This is where we invite our authors like Sharon to share a passage that captures the heart of their work. Sharon, whenever you're ready, we'd love to hear from the page.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, and I have one, I have three that I chose, but I'm gonna read some of so some of my poems, if you're looking at my books, do not have titles. So, in the case of that, the first line of the poem is in bold to to tell you like this is the beginning. Wow. So because behind the blue is about going from darkness into light, there's different sections, and they're named like nightshade, which is the first section, is the darkest time in the timeline. Nightshade is known as um, it's the name of like a poisonous, it's a strain of poisonous plants or or poisons in general, but it's also the idea that nightshade, like the the sun is completely gone, the night is drawn. And my book goes from that into going through the phases of you know, shades of grades towards the light, okay. You may never get all the way to the light through reading all this, but it's gonna help you, I hope, process. So I do a lot of writing that's um, you know, yeah, this sucks. I hope I can say that. Yeah, this is a terrible situation. Um, but you know what? You're you're bad, you've got a baddie in you too, and you can, you know, show this thing that you're boss, and that's kind of my kind of like um go get them girl kind of comes out and encourages people because we need that. We need to we need to have that when we're going through something. So the the book, the poem gonna read um is uh starts the first line is give your pain a name. And that's we if you want a name for the poem, that's what we're gonna call it. Give your pain a name. Give a name to the object of your anger, to the reason for your disappointment, to the cause of your discontent. Once you've chosen the name, say that name out loud and at the top of your lungs. This is not the time to hold back. Shout out that name while raising your fist in defiance. Show your pain, the object of your anger, the reason for your disappointment, the cause of your discontent, that you are stronger, fiercer, smarter than it is. Resolve to not be silenced, shamed, underestimated, or to otherwise diminish yourself to appear less than you are. Refuse to be squashed or gaslighted, you will not be manipulated or beaten down. Show your demons you are the boss of you and of them too. I know this may sound strange to some to call out what is lurking in the shadows, to draw out what thrives in the darkness and expose it to the light. But when you do, when you show your claws and bare your teeth, when you are bold and brave, it's that side of you, the sight of you standing your ground that will cause the object of your anger, the reason for your disappointment, the cause of your discontent to tuck tail and run. Give your pain a name. Say that name out loud and at the top of your lungs. This is not the time to hold back.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Why did you choose that piece? I really feel that it's at the heart of the book because it actually falls um partly like kind of early on. It's a little bit in the dark section. And the idea is that things get dark, things get hard. The prison of our mind is the worst prison in the world. There's none that could ever be constructed that would hold us hostage more and put us through terrible things more than what's up here. Because, first of all, no one else can access us, right? We hold the keys and we all have this the story going through our minds, and we have then have to tap into the power that we only we possess and say, you know what, not today. What's that phrase? Not today, Satan. That's basically not today. No, thank you. And the thing is, the idea is if if there's nothing else someone pulls from reading this book of mine, is to be like, don't be afraid, right? Be brave. It's difficult. And like there's a song, I think it's by John Mayer. Say, say what you need to say, even if your voice is shaking. You you have to take you have to take this and say, no, I'm gonna give you a name. I'm not gonna let you linger here and just upset me and wear me down. Your disappointment, your um sadness, your um deception, someone deceived you, someone let you down. I I don't like myself, I'm better off somewhere else. That's not true. Take it, name it, show it your boss, and get it on the run.

SPEAKER_01

Take it, name it, show it your boss. I'm telling you, I have a Rolodex of hashtags here.

SPEAKER_02

Cool.

SPEAKER_01

Do you believe poetry and storytelling can be a form of healing?

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

I think whether you're reading a novel, reading a memoir, reading a um autobiography, historical fiction, poetry, you can you I believe people get out of something what you are already bringing. It's it's a it's um it's a meet cute in a way, right? You bring in the book to you, you're bringing yourself to the book, and you're going to get out of it something that can help you. See, we travel, right? We read a book, we travel, but we get to be in our PJs, in our favorite chair or in our couch or whatever. Um, you you do need to come with uh an open mind, right? You do need to be like, okay, and and not reading should be fun. I read trashy stuff too, you know. I read trashy stuff, I read summer novels, um like romance, all that stuff. But when you're going to to bring something in to yourself, and and you're bringing something to the book that you're reading, um, you I don't know how you cannot either find a place of healing, find a place of insight, um, find a place of enlightenment. It doesn't have to be super crazy wonderful, but it'd be like, oh, you know what? I actually never thought of that before. You know, I'm thinking of some of our fellow authors who I've been reading their books. And it's like, you know what? That never occurred to me. Or, oh, that's a that's a different way of looking at that relationship, other than what I would have thought of if I was in that relationship that they're describing.

SPEAKER_01

So it's that kind of absolutely Aaron, what's next for you?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, what's next? Um, I have uh the art book in in progress, it's um gonna be smaller than the other books, about half the size, so like 50 pages, maybe 60. It's called Art from the Breakup from Heartache to Healing. Wow and um so I was divorced uh five years ago this month, and I was doing sketching during COVID to help like some people baked bread, some people lost a thousand pounds, you know. I I was drawing, and it was a way of um keeping my sanity and helping me. I didn't know I could draw, I've learned I can draw, which is kind of cool. Not like super fancy sketches, but fun doodling and and there's actually a format I didn't know I'm doing and that kind of stuff, so it's kind of cool. Oh wow, and when this happened, I took my artwork, my art pieces, and started drawing my feelings and working through stuff and writing mantras and things, and it was for me, it was only for me, and then I shared it with some people in the last couple of years, and I'm like, you know, everybody has a heartbreak, and I think these would resonate with people. So, what I'm gonna be doing, what I am doing is doing really it's more of an art book than a poetry book, but it will have my original poetry in it. Some will be like snippets, some of it will be the whole piece, and then we have my sketches, so it's taking a little longer because it's artwork involved, not just type, yeah. And um, at different events coming up, April is National Poetry Month. So hopefully um people will be encouraged to go to their local library and open mics and things like that to hear fellow poets.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I love, love that. April is national poetry. Yes, I love thank you for sharing. You I'm telling you, I gotta get a calendar with all these things. There's so many things that are like literature like that are important, and we need to celebrate them here on the podcast. So happy that you share that. Sharon, thank you for sharing your voice, your voice. Oh, you're welcome, and your work with us today for our listeners. If today's conversation resonated with you, we encourage you to spend time with this beautiful collection. You can find behind the blue poetry and prose. Where, Sharon, where can we find it?

SPEAKER_02

So it's pretty much anywhere online, but the best place to go is sharonarsego.com and it's s-h-a-r-o-n-ar-s-e-g-o.com. I list on my site all the various places you can get them by just one click. Um, so that's that's the best way. If you're local to Bristol, they're going to they're at uh Dark Moon gift shop on North Main Street in Bristol uh for the month of April. They'll be at the vintage co-op and they're all signed, so they're ready in little gift bags, so they're all ready to go. And um, yeah, I'm out and about. Um gonna have, and if you go to my website, it's really cool. You're mentioning the calendar of things for events that either I'm going to be at or fellow, close fellow poets and writers are going to be at and artists. I have an events page where I list things for the calendar. So I love it. Thank you for joining us today.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, thank you. Stay reflective, and let stories continue to speak. Bye, guys.