Episode 17 Theories Behind the Pyramids

Dive in deep with Sabryna and Joey on theories of the Pyramids on Ghost and Gavel. How were they built? What history tells us and what the underlying theories are for this concept. Were the pyramids ment for other purposes? Were aliens involved with the pyramids? Make sure you join us on social media and tell us your thoughts about the theories. Ghost and Gavel on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. Or you can email us directly at ghostandgavel@gmail.com

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Ghost and Gavel with Joey and Sabrina.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Welcome to episode Sa. Let's try that again. Welcome to episode 17 of Ghost and Gavel. So coming in strong almost to episode 20. Exciting, exciting. So today, we are going to discuss the many theories behind the Great Pyramids of Egypt. We're going to take a deep dive into these theories on Ghost and Gavel. I didn't find a whole lot, although there were different theories behind how they were built. So let's get ready to step into history and the theories of Egypt that have been debated for years. The history that we are taught, the pyramids were constructed over 4,500 years ago with over 2 million stones and took about 20 to 30 years to make. However, many have argued over the question of how. The ramp theory has to be by far the most accepted theory for how these magnificent structures were built by the Egyptologist today. They believe that the pyramids were built by sheer will and human power using a massive workforce and incredible intelligence to transport the stones across the desert with sleds and rope. The reason that this is so believable is because there are many images and carvings that can be found on all of the temples. When stones arrived where the pyramids were being constructed, there was either a straight ramp up one side of the structure or one that spiraled around the entire entire structure. Although it is believed that a combination of both were used. Once significant heights were reached, it is said that there were levers that were then used. And then there is the water shaft theory. This theory states that the stones were transported through the water through a water canal that was built all the way to where the pyramids were being constructed. This allowed the stones to float across the water and made transporting the heavy pieces a lot easier. It is said that floats were made with cedar wood or inflated animal skins wrapped around paparus, maybe, then attached to the stone. This would allow the stones to be pulled from the shore. The floating stones are then led to the canals all the way to a moat which had been surrounding the structures. It is said that there are no con there is no concrete evidence evidence to support this theory. However, there are traces of water throughout the structures and imperfections across all four sides which have identified to have been identified to help support this theory. Others have said that they believe that during these times the society was actually further along than we are willing to accept. Some say the workforce consisted of slave labor, which we all know that, you know, the typical slaves that we learn about in school nowadays isn't the only type of slavery we had in our history. Others believe the workforce consisted of tens of thousands of free-skilled workers who live near the Great Pyramid and ruled for for a salary, a wage of ten loaves of bread or a jug of beer per day, or a form of tax payment until the construction was completed. The workforce was highly organized and managed by managed to the highest level. Chosen because it is believed to be where the sun set was, which was believed to be where the dead entered the underworld. The chosen location also had to be on high ground to avoid the danger of flooding at the time, which is another theory behind why there is um evidence of water around the construction of the pyramids. The location had to be within close proximity to the Nile and on a firm rock base capable of supporting the massive weight of the structures without cracking or showing sign of structural weakness. Most importantly, it had to be within close reach of the capital. I personally believe that if the people of those times were smart enough to be aware of all the possibilities and found ways to make them last better than a lot of our modern day items. This just shows how smart they were and their capabilities of the time.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Now, let me interrupt you real quick. Do you know what the next tallest stable structure that was built after the pyramids?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

You mentioned it to me at one point.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

The uh Eiffel Tower in Paris.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

I remember. And was made completely to make it completely flat. It proceeded with building low mud walls around the base and cutting the channels in a grid pattern per the surface. The channels were filled with water, the level at which the water reach was marked, the water was then drained, all of the rocks that were sticking out were removed, and any void was filled with stones to make the surface completely flat.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

So if I'm understanding this right, is the sand water and all of that was supposed to like how we make concrete nowadays?

SPEAKER_00 10:12

No, essentially the water was put in to expose basically like loose pebbles that would have caused structural damage. Okay. Another thing that shows just how advanced they were was the thought they put into astrology as well. Did you know the Egyptians were basically astrologers too? Yeah, astrologers. Or astrologist.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

I need a reference, have that blind moment.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

So, like they were really familiar with um sun and stars and how it affects basically life and death and or pertains to those things and then affects different things in life.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Okay, that I just wasn't sure if that's what you're trying to reference or not. So, like the North Star specifically. Okay, but no, I did not know they were into that.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

So each side of the pyramid was designed to face one of the cardinal points. They watched the rising and setting of the North Star and began by establishing true north first. Then the rest was to follow in the other directions. It's kind of amazing, though, how they seem to make every side exactly the same length and angles so perfect. The theory that the pyramids were built by the lost civilization of Atlantis. So, what is the story behind the advanced civilization of Atlantis? There is no definite answer. However, in general, mythology goes around eleven thousand five hundred years ago, so a lot long a lot before, a lot longer before they claimed that the pyramids were actually built. Because if you remember at the beginning I said 4,500 years ago. an advanced civilization. The Greek philosopher Plato claimed that Atlantis lay beyond the pillars of Hercules. Some believe these were the modern day Straits of Gibraltar as a great island in the sea. This island is described as being greater in size than Libya or Asia together, and was powerful enough to attack Europe and Asia. It is said in distant past the civilization was wiped out by a great earthquake that turned the sea into an impassable muddy bank. It is believed, I think that was supposed to be Liberia, and I just spelt that wrong. It is believed this was the end of civilization and the survivors traveled across the globe where they resettled and lived. When this happened, the people arose the pyramids, which is why we see them in different areas of the world. So, yes, there are many different pyramids around the world, um, but you see them built not in the exact ways of the great pyramids that we're necessarily speaking about in Egypt. The I go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Uh what is that, a hundred and eighty-two or a hundred and eighty-three known pyramids?

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Uh something of that sort, yes. But um, like I said, we're mainly referring to the pyramids of Egypt, but that the Atlantis theory is said to explain all of the pyramids around the world. Which I mean, if you look at those, like the reason they don't consider some of them pyramids per se, is because they don't come to a point. They have a flat top surface.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

But wouldn't the flat top surface ones be considered a tomb?

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Uh some were, yes, but like I said, that's why some of these um different scientists don't believe that they were considered pyramids per se, because they weren't like the ones built in Er Egypt. But others say that yes, those are still pyramids of some sort. This idea was pondered by American congressman Donnelly. However, he also viewed himself as a scientist in the nineteenth century. In eighteen eighty-two, he wrote Atlantis, the Antediluvian World, which proposed that the catastrophic event that ended Atlantis was none other than the great flood found in the Bible. Interesting, isn't it? He stated that the events described by Plato were factual and that humankind first became civilized at Atlantis. He goes on to state the similarities between Phojan alphabet, I think that's how it's pronounced, um, Mayan and Egyptian hieroglyphs to show that these stemmed from the original Atlantean alphabet. So essentially, basically, what they're saying, I mean, there there's if you look at the temples around the world, not all of them look like the temples that we are thinking of, or the pyramids that we are thinking of in Egypt, like the Great Pyramid of Giza. Okay, um, some of them are like are flat on the top rather than pointed. So that's why scientists debate whether or not they are really considered pyramids, but it's essentially like different civilizations. Even if we think about modern day uh civilizations, we have, you know, us in the United States, you have people in, you know, let's say Asia, China, Europe. We're all people, but we do things differently. So that's kind of what they're saying is Atlantis split off into different civilizations, and they had their own way of building pyramids in each different civilization.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Like uh how I was trying to reference it, because I was kind of lost myself, is like with the uh Native American Indians.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

Yeah, so I mean, like they're all considered Native Americans, but you have multiple different um how did you say it? Multiple different tribes, but they're all still considered Native Americans.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Like for me, that was the best way to try to understand it, because yes, I got lost too about it, but that's how I came up with the best way for me to reference or remember it as.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Yeah, so the yeah, they're all Native Americans, but they all have each tribe has their own traditions or ways of going about things. Whereas they also may have some similarities, like he was mentioning about the different alphabets, how they all kind of led back to the alphabet that was used in Atlantis. They how they found similarities to that. So these are structure, these structures are physical evidence of common building structure that the people of Atlantis kept with them when they traveled the world. Some still think so, however, it is said that a lot more would need to line up for this hypothesis to be true. It is said that the timelines don't match up, which we mentioned how the years don't match up. And written records of Egyptians say differently. It is also said that there were different functions for the pyramids depending on where they were located. So, again, kind of like you said with Native Americans, or even how I modern rev modern day civilizations were all people. They were all tribes, but they there's some things that they did differently, some things we do differently, even in modern day. Okay, and then there's the theory of pyramids as power plants.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Power plants like today? Like power plants like today.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

No, I'm gonna get it kinda, kinda, but no. Uh let me get into a little more detail about it so that you understand it more. Okay, so as we discussed previously, pyramids were not placed just at random. There was a lot of thought put into where they were placed and the direction of each side for each one. The three pyramids of Giza specifically are thought to be lined up with Orion's belt. Did you know that one?

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

As it measured a at least as it measured of as of ten thousand five hundred BC. As we as we know, the ancient Egyptians are well versed in astrology, especially Orion, which they connected with Osiris, their god of the afterlife. One of the three pyramids, the Great Pyramid of Khufu, isn't any ordinary structure. Its base covers a total of thirteen acres. And the sides are lined up with true north more accurately than most modern day buildings. It is also said that its dimensions include the value of pi and the golden ratio. Math terms.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

I know a pie is the three point one four, so on, so on, so on.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Right. We have all heard of the kings and queens chambers inside the pyramid. But apparently there is more that has been found than just that. In 2017, uh the Scan Pyramids project used special cosmic ray detectors to take a look inside the pyramid. They found massive unexplained space above the grand gallery, now called the Big Void. They say it's just part of the structure. However, many many wonder why it is so perfectly sealed off. They have also found that there are narrow tunnels leading from the chambers to the outside. They aren't for air. They actually point to specific stars such as Orion. As we know, certain natural mineral uh materials and stones can collect and produce energy, which is a big part of where this theory comes from. So just like we were talking about before, you know, natural energy from wind, water, um, oh, you said nuclear energy, different things like that. The pyramids contain specifically quartz, which is known to produce piezoelectricity. So maybe somebody in electricity can correct me on that. Electricity generated by pressure is what that is. Okay. Many scientists dismiss this theory because there's no sign of wires or machines. However, as we said before, whoever may have created these structures obviously had greater knowledge of certain things than we are willing to give them credit for. All we can take off of this is what we do know. You know, the things that they have found in history, the evidence they have found, the water damage, the um hieroglyphs and things, the stories that were written, and the the uh the tombs, the um, you know, we find evidence in that stuff. We as we can't really know what they were necessarily thinking, though. However, I did little fun fact going off topic for a moment. Talking about tattoos with your mom one day. And I was talking about one of my biggest regrets was my first tattoo that I really didn't think about. It was just one I got because I wanted to get a tattoo. I I didn't consider the meaning I would put behind my tattoos on uh in later life. Um, the tramp stamp, did you actually know that it was meant to be uh it had great significance in Egypt? Women that had a tattoo on their lower back, now considered the tramp stamp, were considered of um uh basically great knowledge. So like they were women that can that the women that had those were basically um oh, what do we call them today? I'm having a brain fart. Blonde moment. Okay, blonde moment. Um, they were considered basically like the modern day doulas of of the Egyptian times, of those times. So they were women that had the knowledge to be able to help other women give birth. There was also significance when women were pregnant, um, they would get tattoos around the bottom of their belly, and it was said to protect their baby and themselves during birth and pregnancy. So those were some interesting facts I found about Egypt and the early times. Okay, so anyways, uh uh getting off track and um back on track again. The next um the next theory has to do with alien influence. So that was something we talked about previously, and kind of linking to our previous episode, too, to do with Area 51. Of course, another theory brings us back to the aliens. Some say the pyramids were built by aliens, and some suggest they at least helped guide mankind in creating these magnificent monuments. Many don't believe that man of that time had the knowledge to create such lasting perfection or the knowledge and strength to go about doing so with stones that weighed a few tons. Professionals have found a lot of the alien theory stems around fictional books that were not meant to be taken seriously. For example, War of the Worlds from 1897. The Edison Conquest of Mars from 1898. So that's where I guess some of these theories of the aliens are coming from. Another piece of writing that comes to light with this theory is Chariots of the Gods. Chariots of the Gods, yeah. The author of this book points to agent ancient Egypt text like Thule Papyrus, which describes so this um text describes fiery disc in the sky during the rang reign of Tutmos or Thutmosa. I guess there's two different pronunciations, and I'm not sure which one to use. Um the third critics look back and say this is all a myth or a mistrans translation. However, ones that are leaning on this theory say that there are too many mysteries, the math, the alignments, and the hidden hidden chambers. So were the Egyptians really alone in raising these monuments? Who knows? And then I don't know, this was more recent thing. Did you hear about the hidden tunnels of the pyramids? Or I guess like it was more along with the Sphinx that was built along with the tunnels, the Great Sphinx. Many have said and even found evidence of hidden tunnels under the pyramids, as well as the famous Great Sphinx, the guardian of the pyramids. Genealogists, or genealogists, geologists argue that the Sphinx shows water erosion, meaning it had to be exposed to heavy rainfall. What is the problem with this theory though? Egypt has been dry for 7,000 years. This theory suggests the Sphinx could be much older than we originally thought. If this is the case, this means that it was not built by the pharaohs of ancient Egypt, but by an even older civilization. So again, evidence that could possibly lead further back to the theory of Atlantis. We just don't know. We can't get into the minds of the pharaohs and the Egyptians of the time. Unfortunately, we can, like I said, only take history as we know it. To further the ground penetrating radar has hinted that there are hidden there is a hidden chamber beneath the paws and even under some of the pyramids, there are theories surrounding what could be in there, such as records of a lost civilization. Hint back to Atlantis again. And some have even gone as far as to say that there are whole hidden cities under the pyramids. Radars have shown large channels resembling pipelines that contain spiral staircases. So is there more to the Egyptian pyramids than we are really told? Were they really built when we suspect them to be? Were they really built by the laborers of Egypt? Were the ancient people of the area smarter than we suspect, maybe? Again, obviously, we know they had far greater knowledge in certain areas such as astrology that we would like to believe than we would like to believe, but this is knowledge, but also there is a question of was this knowledge of another world be uh being of assistance to the pyramids? So what are your thoughts on it?

SPEAKER_02 35:34

What the pyramids in general?

SPEAKER_00 35:36

Yes, in general. I mean, there's a lot of evidence to lead many different directions.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

We just not really.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Um but I mean, I guess you could take it. I mean I guess we could take it as a pun. Um, but I mean, like I said, there's evidence of the original history that we are taught about the pyramids, but then as we got further on, there's also possibly evidence that these things may be older than we first originally suspected.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

I mean, we were always taught that uh they were built by the Egyptians. Like kind of thinking about it, the one pyramid that you mentioned that had corrosion. Which pyramid was that again?

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Uh, I mean, they said the pyramids in general had water corrosion, but um the Sphinx specifically has evidence of possible rainfall, which would suggest that it was built more than 7,000 years ago, but the original history that we are taught is about 4,500 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

So maybe maybe it was originally from the lost city of Atlantis.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

And then, like I said, there's tunnels that they're finding lead under there. I mean, we think about things like oh, the Vatican and all the stuff that is hidden in the Vatican that we are not able to see in history and text. I mean, it could be the same way for these tunnels. There's theories that they're thinking about that, you know, there's whole cities under there, and possibly even history that we don't know about that we haven't discovered yet. Yep. So, thoughts of our viewers. I mean, there was a lot of theories thrown out there for the pyramids. What are your all's thoughts? You guys can connect with us on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all Ghost and Gavel. Or we do also have our email, ghost and gavel at gmail.com, where you can message us your thoughts on the pyramids. Bye. You sounded like a little girl right there. Of course, you had to throw your comedy in right at the end. We can never get through a whole episode being completely serious.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

This is almost a full episode.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

Yeah, but right there at the end, before I could e oh my goodness, we need extra air fresheners in the studio, guys.