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Love is Blind, Ohio

Episode 1

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SPEAKER_01 0:05

Hello, and welcome to Borrow Some Besties. I am Heather, one of your besties, and I am joined by my co-host today. Heather. Yeah, so this is Erica. She will be co-hosting with me today. Um, just as a reminder, this is for entertainment purposes only. Um, we are not offering clinical advice, we are not offering consultation, we are not offering anything that has anything to do with knowledge or advice. This is a podcast that is focused on reducing loneliness. So today we're going to be watching Love is Blind. We did have another activity, and if you want to see what it was and why we elected not to do it, um, please watch our behind the scenes video, which will be on our website and YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

So we are watching Love is Blind today.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Um let me oh, it looks like there are a lot of these seasons.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Do you have a locale that you would like to do? Um perhaps Denver, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

I love it all. Let's just do a picket.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Houston. Charlotte, DC, Minneapolis, Ohio. Let's do Ohio. Okay. So that is season 10, episode 1. I had no idea there were so many of these. Okay. Do you have it pulled up?

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Nerr. But I guess that would be helpful.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

What is on YouTube, Netflix? Um, I'm on Netflix. I'm watching it on my tiny little Kindle. Um, yeah, so it's Ohio. The episode is called Honey, I'm Home. Honey, I'm Home.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

And what's this what's the show called?

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Uh Love is Blind. Love is Blind. Except this is the US version, um, I would guess, because these are all US cities or states listed.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

It's funny that it's like these are all cities. Oh, yeah. It's like in Ohio. It's almost a like a subject. Oh, it's the bath.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Oh, did you already hit play?

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Stop it. I can't I can't find the episodes. I haven't hit anything except that there's a bunch of shit-in ass episodes.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Gotcha. I'm on okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

I'm on the desktop version of this, and it looks confusing as I'll get out. Okay, honey, I'm home. Okay, there it is.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Okay, so I'm gonna hit play.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Three, two, one.

unknown 3:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

So Netflix banner is gone. Now the lights are flipping on. A Netflix series.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

I'd love you, I love you so much.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

Oh, people crying.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

This is This is definitely it. Oh, do you have to give do you have to like get engaged in order to be able to see the person?

SPEAKER_03 4:07

I don't know. I never made it through any of the other ones.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Me neither.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Because it's like so it was so bullshitty because they were like, first of all, none of these people are struggling to date. We they were all picked because they are pretty.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

And probably rich to be able to take however much time off work.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

Or completely with like living with their parents' basement and they don't do anything and they don't pay their child support because they feel like that's the other real group that really loves this kind of stuff, you know?

SPEAKER_01 4:51

Uh-huh. Like being in this kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Starring in this kind of stuff on their own.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

Like Yeah, like because most people with dignity and respect are not gonna submit themselves to this, but like I feel like if you're living in the basement and the only thing you got going for you is like you've got a good face. All I'm saying is like I feel like Stanford grads and people like in their residencies are not on the show.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah. Is that Nick Cliche? Well, it's Nick Cliche, and he's so gross. That's so sad.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

It looks like he is trying desperately to hold on to his youth.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's sad. Like, just he's gonna end up looking like some weird John Travolta.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Oh, there's a nurse.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

ER doctor. Bullshit. Bullshit. Y'all be lying on the resumes just like y'all be lying about your height. Uh-huh. There are people in our damn government that lied on their resume, for fuck's sake. You don't think that they're doing full background checks on a reality show?

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Uh. I could be like I'm a model. Maybe they're all skinny. Uh-huh. They all are showing the cleavage.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Yeah. Like it's delightful. It is. But like this is not real. This is not who's on the dating apps, from what I understand from my clients and friends that are on the dating apps.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

I also, yeah, that those people aren't on dating apps. But all of it is completely fake. Yeah.

unknown 6:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Just like their marriage. Uh-huh. I watched that show whenever we were kids, like college, the Nick Lachey and Jessica Subson show. And I even then, I thought he was such a shit hip. He would be constantly like making fun of her. And maybe she was playing it up or whatever. But he was so creepy. All they ever made a big deal about was how she was a virgin. Like, what the shit? Yeah, supergirls. Like, you're gonna go on TV and be talking about that? Like, get a fucking life. I guess they did, because it needs a lot more money than we did. I guess.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Nobody cared about our virginity. Except our parents. Well, my parents.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

My parents cared. I don't think that they still know. I know yours don't know.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

No what? That's come on. No, so I was just gonna say when they were talking to the men, they were like, hey, if you get engaged, then you'll get to see her. So they're like totally setting them up for you have to like be person if you want to solve the mystery of what they see. Or how they look.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

The whole concept just irks me because I know that these people are laced with any number of substances. And that guy needs to close his stupid legs because I hate men that take up that kind of space. Like, stop it.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Just the man's friend.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

The man's friend. And you know, like there is nothing happening that he needs to be that open about. Sir, you can't even bro stop. Nurse practitioner? Okay, she's lying about her age. She says that she's 33. If she's 33, I'm 25 because damn, I look good. Yikes.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

If he's 33. Like, I am seeing a ton of people come in who I am estimating to be my age, and they are much younger. It's like, I don't know if you've been living hard or what.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

I agree. I I know that it's part of the millennial delusion that we look young, but I know for a fact that we look young. I do see these people that are up-and-comers, but they caught like my sister's age group, which is a little bit younger. So they started telling them like the aestheticians and all of the those people that if they would do like baby Botox starting at like 20, 21, 22, Juvederm lips, Botox here, Botox here, and then filler here. That if you would just do do this, you would never you would never age. And I think that that's what we're seeing is like these are humans, like look at her forehead, it hasn't moved since 1991 when she was born. And like she has dumped her face full of something that's not supposed to be there. And I think that they really thought that it was gonna do some good, and it's all dripping.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Yeah, we are seeing the consequences of that.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Yes, I believe that that's a big part of it. And yeah, maybe they maybe they went through some shit. I don't know. I feel like we went through some shit. Yeah. I say that 1000% did, huh? I say that at the sun, though. Like all the girls would always make fun of me for being so pale, and I'm like, whatever. Because I knew what was coming, not shoe leather.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Uh-huh. Well, I was gonna say I was constantly in the sun, and I had two complexions. One was Casper the Ghost, and two is Larry the Lobster.

unknown 11:16

That's it.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

That's it. My sunburn goes away, and I'm Casper again.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

Me too, with more freckles this time.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Yeah, yes, I never liked my freckles. Oh, I loved my freckles. That's awesome. Except I would get them like right along my hairline so it looked like my hair was really dirty. I did not like that.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

I would get them on my shoulders, on my arms, on the top of my knees. So I learned really, really quick. I would just hide out. I don't care. Um, all those girls that made fun of me in high school, and you were in the tanny bed and you got that little Playboy bunny. Yeah. Yep. How's your leather looking? How are you guys doing? You're doing good out there? Yeah. You're getting confused for grandma. Yeah. Uh-huh. I play the long game, bitches. Listen, if they really haven't been everyday, like this was like 1999. Like, if you weren't tan, there was something wrong with you.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

You know? Tan and 95.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

And what? Tan and 95 pounds. Like we were supposed to be this big around.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Yeah. I did go to the tanning bed several times, and it did not change that I had only two complexions. I did it too. I was I was trying to get the little sticker things. I don't remember. It was like a uh palm tree or something.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Well, you yeah. Ours was Playboy Buttons because you know, our last episode was the L O Z, so this is what I'm talking about specifically. Uh-huh. But who's got the last laugh? We will.

unknown 13:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:18

So, anyways, these people are so full of shit. Everything's artificial. Let's just go there. All right. So, like, you if you go and you randomly talk to somebody that you've never seen before, and you get into this deep of a conversation, I'm gonna go ahead and call that some kind of personality disorder.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

If you pull someone aside at the grocery store and tell them these things, they are probably a therapist. That too.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

And you have unhealthy boundaries. You have very unhealthy boundaries. But I don't so whatever they're going for, whenever it's like love at first sight, whatever this is, this is not love.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

I don't know what this is.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

Maybe limerence, just because I always want to try to find a way to put limerence into something because I think it's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Possibly, but also um, like we see this with online relationships too. Like when you connect, you do it in a deeper, faster way. And so it also makes me think that they're being vulnerable, they're sharing some vulnerabilities, which, if it's being accepted, could be seen as intimate, right? Which is the birthplace of love. So they could be confusing vulnerability with the ability to trust, stay safe, and equate that to love.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

I could see that, but I also like the kinds of people, again, that I think that would be drawn to doing this kind of thing, this publicly, like I would just frame them as like vulnerable narcissists. Like this is all this is all still staged. They're still not getting really, really, really ugly because you can't see each other. And attraction is more than just this look and more than just this feeling. To me, like attraction is this alchemy where there are no words and there is no there is no anything, like it's just this thing. Um, so I know that there are people that can like have a vibe and have a have uh have a lot in common and have a good time, but does that mean that they're attracted to each other?

SPEAKER_02 15:47

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

Oh, my chapstick fell out. I feel like if you applied that, then like that would be like me and you being in love. And I do love you, but I don't feel like we're attracted to each other. I don't feel so either.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Um, but I do love you.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

I do love you. And like I would be so vulnerable with you. Same. And then once he pulled the window open and they were like, There's your lady love, I'd be like, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Oh well, so okay, I also yeah, like one guy was already on here going, I wonder what she looks like. I bet they get engaged. I bet they get engaged. Because when you get engaged, you solve the mystery. But why are the women's ruin hurting voice? You're meeting up.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Okay, so the men want the prize because they're visual that you're you're you're proselytizing that these men need to see the prize, and that's why they're doing this. Why are the women doing this? They want to get picked, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Okay, okay. They want to get picked. I think the men are partially motivated by the mystery will be solved. He said so.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Let's get married. He's already said it. You were right, dude. He said, let's get married. He said, I'm not even kidding.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

How far are we in? Like 10 minutes?

SPEAKER_03 17:29

10 minutes. 15, 15, 20 minutes. I love it. It's crazy. Oh my god, so many fucking stuff.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

I want to find my ride or die. He's an account manager.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Bro!

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Stop with the close-ups of this nasty croc. Stop. I must have missed that. Good.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

I feel like they're just giving a lot of chino. I don't want to see any more chino.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

So do they keep going into the same rooms? Are they like speed gate? I think we I went up with this on the first one.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

Yeah. But we don't pay good enough for stuff. So if I mean apparently like they're seeing all of each other. One round is they all see each other, yes. Uh-huh. But I I don't have a timeline either. Yeah. What happened to her arm? She looks like she got burned.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Maybe you should have.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

But see, they're already flying them with alcohol. I would assume that they're that's not matcha. And he's pacing because he's bored. He he's already married to the first girl. He doesn't care. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Yep. Three stars already.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

He told the other girl his whole page was like stars.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Did he just propose to her? She's talking about her scars now. So she might. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, she's a lovely.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

I think it's what we have been told we are supposed to achieve. And there's like this idea that comes with security and safety and like you're you both got picked.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

It's true. I don't know. I always struggled with it. Like whenever I was little, it wasn't a goal necessarily. I never had like a dream wedding. I never actually had a wedding. I got married in a I got married in a lawyer's office in a dress that I bought from Kohl's. And I've always thought it was a bit strange, especially when people do it so publicly. I mean, I guess that that's what the culture says, but I've always thought it's weird that you have to like get up in front of a bunch of people and say like really, really weird words that you would only say in private to somebody and then like spend a lot of money to do that.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

So my um cousin got married yesterday, and I took my daughter as my plus one. And the whole way there, she's like freaking out. And finally she's like, Why are you making me get married? I'm like, no, no, honey, you are not getting married. And she's like, then who are you marrying? Because what about dad? And I was like, baby, no, like, I'm already married. She's like, so I have to? No, we're gonna go watch our cousin get married. But is there gonna be kissing? And I was like, the bride and groom typically kiss. Ew, why would you expose me to that? But I'm saying literally what she said. Why would you expose me to that? So we went and she was like, Oh, I was so bored. I'm like, they're gonna start dancing soon. We should stick around for that. And she didn't want to, but then she like they did the thing where they had the circles. Clapping and she's in the middle, like just dancing her heart's desire. She had a dance off with a little boy.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Hell yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

I'm a great date date for weddings. Uh-huh. I am not a good bridesmaid. I've been a bridesmaid several times, and I have gotten voted off of the bridesmaid island every time. I got voted off the first time because I guess we were supposed to have like a girl sleepover, and I snuck out and then just went went partying down down at the Lake of the Ozarks, you recall. And I made it back at around four four or five a.m. on just like good old high school days because it was one of my high school friends. Her mom fucking catches me going back into my hotel room and she's like, Erica. And I'm like, what? And she's like, we've got to get her hair done. And I'm like, I'll be there. I've nobody worked for me. I didn't, I don't get it. Like, I'm in your wedding. I just spent like $200 for a stupid pink dress I'm never gonna fucking wear again. I'm having this dinner and we're all at print pretending like this is gonna fucking last. By the way, it didn't. And then we have to spend all night together? What? I don't believe I will.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

So the second time I get kicked out of the bride's maids is my sister because she sends me a picture. We're living two states away. This is like her 75th marriage. So I feel like, you know, after the first second and 30 seconds, it doesn't matter anymore what you're wearing. I've done been there. I've seen this, you know. So she's like, I want everybody to wear short dresses. And I'm like, I ain't trying to wear no short dress, I just had a baby. So I go to David Brianville and I get me my own damn dress. So that's the second time that I got kicked out. And then the third time was on her 689th wedding. And that is when I just refused to do any of the things because I had a child and I was like, sorry, I have to take care of my child. I don't have time to go out with you and do all these things. Like you haven't done this like 600 times before. Okay. Um, so like there's uh, you don't really want me to be in your bride's party. Because I'm gonna go have my own party.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Yeah, I have been in a lot of weddings. Um, I have been a bridesmaid a lot of times. I have also been a best man once. Oh, that's good, which I loved. I would like that. So one wedding I was guilted into being a bridesmaid, and I'm not gonna provide too many details. This person had said, um, I don't have anyone, even my sister won't work. I doubt it. So I drive so fucking far through just it was awful. The dress was expensive, it looked terrible. Um we get there, it's flooding, the wedding party, and spouses are like sandbagging the chapel. Oh, and I got there, there were actually like 13 bridesmaids.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

What the shit? I don't even know 13. She lied.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

She lied. There was another girl that I had gone to college with, and I was like, she told me she didn't have anyone. She goes, girl, she told me that too.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

So she must have had to overcome for like a huge groom situation, yeah? Like bro had like the starting lineup and she had to match.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

Bro did not have the starting lineup. Oh sure. Bro had like five groomsmen and was just asking random people. What the sh I understand none of those. So at the reception, he was like, I did so good, right? And I was like, uh right. It's gonna go great. Because she definitely told you at everyone at this wedding the truth about everything leading up to your nuptials. They came back from their honeymoon and filed. He said that he had to keep asking her to come back to the room and spend time with him because she had met another dude. Are you sure it wasn't my sister?

SPEAKER_02 27:06

This is like this is her tall.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

And she was real tall. Just say. Oh. No, she was not real tall. I do not talk to her anymore because neither. No. Um, and then she married another dude who looked homeless, and like she kept trying to call me, and I just I dodged her. I never talked to her again. I did not answer her calls, I did not return her calls.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

It was bad. The check that I was in the wedding, we were supposed to get married. We had been, we went to high school, we went to junior high high school, college, and then we were graduating in 2005 from undergrad. I was engaged and I was getting ready to call that off, and I did call it off because I've just been engaged a bunch of times. I only was stupid enough to do it once. And she told me at that time, she thought I was ruining my life by not getting married. And I'm like, okay. Um, so anyways, she got married, and then when her mom caught me coming back into the hotel and not not being with the girls, um, that was the last time that she spoke to me until fast forward they got definitely got a divorce, and she was in the area and wanted to know if I knew some knew somebody that she was dating in my town. And I'm like, no, I thought I ruined my life, which turns out I did, but not the way you think. So I don't know him. Good luck. Um, I never have understood the whole wedding thing. I don't really like it. And between my mom and my sister, there have been at least a dozen, and I just I feel like they've covered it for me. I have an aunt, she's an aunt by marriage, but I have an aunt that's been married over 10 times, and she legally can't get married in like three or four states.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Okay. All right. Yeah, we're we good over here.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

And what's funny is like half of them be Catholic.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Mm-hmm. Isn't that funny? I was gonna say, we have people in my family who have been married a couple of times, divorced a couple of times, but for the most part, you're either married, divorced, and then partnered, but never married again. Or you're married and miserable for your your whole life.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

Yeah, I know those couples.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

I don't fall into either of those categories, just so you know. I will say this much though.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

If if he goes first or shit goes down, I assure you, I assure you, I would never get married again.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Yeah. Hell no. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

I think I would just get in a colony with a bunch of women who at least knew different skills, and then we would just do we would do cool shit together.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Yes. Let's um, where did I hear about it? I don't remember. But we could buy a house, like a two-story house with stuff on both sides, like a big apartment, and just like cohabitate and raise kids.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

I think that that's the way that it probably was for millennia or two until somebody decided that we all needed to get coupled off. But it makes a lot more sense, I think. But I don't know. I don't want to deal with open toilet seats anymore. And I do know that Jen that that that our sexuality is not a choice. Because I would have chosen differently. You're like, that's what confirms it for me. Yeah, like literally knowing that I had no choice in the matter, and here we are. Like, I I I have been offered a good looking lady, okay?

SPEAKER_02 31:23

And I'm like, I am delighted and honored. And I cannot.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Uh-huh. As much as I respect and admire you. You've really, really like you're really pretty, you you're really soft, you smell delightful. Don't touch me. Make sure you clean up after yourself and you don't leave socks on the late room floor.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Like, how do we get into like an asexual life partnership? What it what would that look like? I guess it would look like us. I did see a group of women that bought an old school and they rehabbed it and they did just this, but they all have like different classrooms. And like they live in like they live in different areas, and like if you want to go to your friend's house, do you want to go to your friend's house? It's all in the school. Oh. Right? Think about like malls, like a bunch of millennial moms at a mall. We could get shit done. Yes. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

We'd be fighting it out over Victoria's Secret, though. You can have it. Well, it was like the best tour of the mall. I want to find the fashion bug.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Oh, but see, those were in strip malls. This was not in a big mall. I'm we've got to go to a big mall. I ain't doing no strip mall. Gotta go to a mall mall. Escalators.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Where like JC Penny is the Dillards, Dillards, JC Penny's, Sears.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

At the Holy Fork. I miss fucking balls. These people are absolutely boring. Let's just also say that. That's why we're here. I like that chair though. That is the the decor is always on point. Yes. But like, if you ever see behind these kinds of setups, so there is tremendous lighting, there's mic booms, there's probably 20 people all around them. And they have them reshoot things over and over again. And that's another thing that always bothers me about these kinds of shows. When they say like reality, there is nothing real about this shit. Yeah. Maybe it's not scripted as heavily. But I think I think even then it is because whenever it gets dead, they'll poke them.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

They'll said something will be released. If you look at it like in the credits of most reality shows, it'll say something about storyline or story producer or story developer. And so when things when they want to create some kind of drama, they do splotch in, and then whoever's editing aligns it with that storyline. They pull out like sound bites and images that match up with that story. So it's always a like a Frankenstein cut. This might be from yesterday, this might be from the day before, this might be from earlier, this might be from another dude. These all these supercuts are not actually correlating back and forth in real time to anything.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

So it's highly produced. I didn't know that. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

Well, I've heard that they edit things, but I don't know why in my head that never equated to this maybe out of order. Yes. I always just assumed that they like things were happening concurrently, or does that make sense?

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Yes, but that's not, and that's what they rely on, but with part of the suspension of the belief that this is happening, like he's saying this, and then she's saying that. No, not at all. Like this could have been filmed yesterday as B-roll, and then they're talking to him, and then she could be saying something completely different. But because of a storyline that they want to capture and create, they will they will cut and edit in something that she says that then forwards that storyline and then back to him. So that's why when like when the villains and stuff from these reality shows are like that show is cut a certain way to make me look and sound a certain way, and then people are like, Well, what do you mean? Like you said it. Yeah, if me and you cut through this and make a super cut, I could probably make it look like me and you were like the Antichrist.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I mean, would that be so wrong? Would it be so right?

SPEAKER_03 36:24

I'm kidding, but no, like I think my assumption was like they have this conversation, and then there's a lot of boring stuff that they take out and then they have this conversation, but I never thought about them like swapping days and splicing and the only reason why I know this kind of stuff is because in journalism school, so I went through two different phases because you know, good old millennials existed in two different worlds, analog and digital. So pre-digital, everything was on analog. So if I wanted to piece together a news story, I had to go in order and I could only splice out everything that happened in order and I could only reorder it after I had pulled it. When everything went digital and we started editing nonlinear, now this is when we got to be able to cook because you could literally make anything sound like anything, and they call them Frankenstein cuts because they can be cut from multiple points of the day. And these kinds of shows, they will have these people wearing these outfits three and four and five times. Oh so it goes much deeper. Like, even if you think that this is the next day because their outfits have changed, that's not even true.

unknown 37:44

So far, it's a system.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Like they might wear three outfits in a day? They may wear one outfit three times in a row before ever changing because they're trying to capture all of this footage before going on to the next day.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Do you think they give them questions to ask the other person? Yes, I do. Or do you think like they just say, hey, you're gonna have to talk about not being scared today?

SPEAKER_03 38:19

No, no, I think that they give them very, very specific questions, and I think that they have any number of showrunners and producers that are like watching and saying, give us more of this, give us more of that, give us more of this. Like there's producers, right? They are pulling strings.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Well, I was gonna say, I just it is crazy to me.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

And I wonder if they know that person well enough to already know what the answer they would give, or if it's kind of like when we um did that project that I am not going to name, and they would give us all of the questions ahead of time. Um so I wonder about that. And I'm just not naming it because I don't want to out them for giving us questions ahead of time, not because I'm ashamed of regretting anything we had to do with that project. There's no caveat. Uh-huh. My disclaimers.

SPEAKER_03 39:30

I like questions before. I mean, I'll go either way, but at least then I know what they want. So yeah, I do think that they're giving some they're given direction. Some people are just really boring. Like you have to like prompt them, you have to poke at them.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

I was gonna say, I have this belief that and this could be completely wrong, but that everyone on these shows has a personality disorder. I'm pretty sure you said that earlier. Yeah. But I also believe it. I I strongly believe it.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Cause why would you want to be put in a vulnerable situation for such a serious thing on such a trivial setting? Doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Like, think if you put in this much effort into actually fucking dating.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

You would have been married. But you know, to like your goal to be a Haynes underwear model.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, how many of these people who now are quasi celebrities launched from these various dating things?

SPEAKER_01 40:50

So, can I tell you kind of a funny story? Tell me. Yes, yes. Okay. So I am tangentially connected to a person. Yes. Okay. Yes. This and uh this person, I have met them lots of times. I don't care for them. I have never cared for them. So after my time with this person, they were chosen to be on a show like this. Um, except it was the bachelor or the bachelorette or whatever, and we were waiting like every week to find out if he got a rose. But like really, I didn't even know if he was still on it because I was working all the time. I think I was like in grad school and two jobs and all of that. Um, but he was a dick. Yeah, he was a huge dick the entire time I knew him. Yeah. He was awful. Yeah. Right? My friend got so angry with him that she threw a waffle maker through a wall.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Well, that seems like a terrible use of waffle maker.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

I know.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

They can be very expensive. And we like, yeah. Yeah, I just like I don't get it. And I think that there's a lot of like virtue signaling, you know, and like victim stuff, like, oh, I'm just so beautiful, I can't find anything. And um, I just try so hard and I just can't date. Bull bullshit. Bullshit. Um, and I see people go on these shows where like they are in full-on relationships at home and their partner knows about it and everything because they're in their agreed arrangement. Like, if somebody makes it big, then it's better than nobody makes it big.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

That's weird. That's weird to me.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

I it's kind of like the people who go on house hunters who already have the house.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

And they just take um around and pretend.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

I don't get all of this, except yeah, you want to be seen on a show. And it like you're just pretend, yeah. I see, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

I also just for funsies. So, like, I know that person tangentially. I also know people who were on like Maury, who were on Jerry, like who were um, you're not the father shows. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

So I had a client once who told me how they were able to basically use the um use the show. Oh, why am I going blank? The the really, really stupid bad one with the guy's name. Um, not Maury, the other one. Jerry Fear. Yeah. So they lived in one part. of the United States and all of their family lived in another part of the United States and they could never afford to visit. So they contacted Terry Springer and said, like, we will agree to pretty much like any storylines as long as like we get the like do we really get like the free tickets to the film and the free. And they were like, yeah, like we get all of you here. Like all of you come all of you come here. So they would appear at least two to three times a year and they said it was like the most fun they ever had. They they told what their storylines were and then they would all get to laughing about it but they had unlimited room service. They were staying at like a five star hotel and everything was getting paid for and they loved it.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Wow. Wow. It's cool.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

So I mean maybe we can give it a go since we don't get to see each other that often like maybe we could get a five star hotel together.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Yes but I don't want to go on Jerry Springer.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

I don't even think it's still a thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

Ever. It's I think he passed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

I think he passed um but yeah I mean anybody like I I okay so at one time I did want to go on Oprah because I felt like she was my mom but that's going to be another podcast and um I just felt like she just needed to adopt a white child. And uh we never made it that far but if I was ever going to want a show it would have been Oprah's but now that I go back and I watch Oprah like as a full adult and a therapist I'm horrified. Oprah is kind of the worst I mean for fuck's sake she gave us Dr. Oz and Dr.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Phil neither of which are fucking doctors so fuck you Oprah is what I need to say out loud finally I was gonna say they also like this is total manipulation of moods right low lighting you do then if you want people to open up and be more vulnerable like candlelit stuff like dinner wine you're getting emotional because you're human why are there multiple cups is it like booze booze booze non-booze I know I think it's a term says booze I think it is an extra cup on the table to remind them that they're alone that's what I think it is like somebody else could be sitting there but they're not oh okay that's not a very strong argument but I do usually end up with like three or four drinks by the end of the day. I was gonna already say as I look at my multitude of cups like what I'm alone all the time I'm I'm fine with it I got a different cup four drinks that's a Moscow mule cup right that's a wine glass you could put anything anyway I don't know but like she's uh she's cry stop it stop it stop it she's she was talking about her daddy issues earlier I know that's when I was like oh yeah I guess the lights are low and they are making it seem really intimate yep that makes sense listen I have to figure out I got this new Apple watch and I don't do smart anything because I don't like it but how do you tell it to stop telling you to stand up I will not you don't know who you're fucking with you can't tell me shit I don't know so if anyone wants to help us out and put it in a comment on YouTube or the um wherever you're listening. Tell me how to make it stop telling me what to do because I have pathological demand avoidance and I don't believe I will it's always like it's time to drink it's time to take a breath I am the captain I am the captain like if Apple's listening to me like this is what's being recorded back I am the captain oh they slowed it down here's that romantic song I believe someone in my house is starting to play guitar okay that's new we we've had the tuba we've had the recorder we've had harmonica's you know my sister used to play the trumpet in the bathtub she said it had the best acoustics and I'm fine with the bathtub but the bathroom acoustics but like only in the bathtub would she practice the trumpet that's awesome yep she also would eat bowls of popcorn in there like she was she was she had some style you know my middle child uses his bathroom time to rap yes and to practice his music yes and he at this point in time is able to make sounds with his mouth that's like keeping a beat like that's awesome while he's also able to like almost sing a song that's awesome it's amazing and um but also last night I'm trying to sleep and I'm hearing like this screaming sound and I'm like that's on it what are you doing and the child is like I'm just practicing my eagle sounds I'm like can you not do it in the bathroom right outside my bedroom just like out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

I get it having someone in the house that vocal stems 247 and then tells me no I'm not I get it I'm like I don't care just there's so many noises happening at once I need like one of them to be quieter or not expecting me to be paying attention I think it's also the paramenopause because I don't remember the world being this loud all the time it was always loud the world was loud with Jesus like all these layers of sound are coming in loud and clear in my 40s and I I'm not here for it.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Mm-mm like I think now I think I have like full on misphonia dude if I hear somebody doing something I now become irrationally angry irrationally angry no my irrational anger okay so everything is simultaneously too loud and too quiet I get so angry if there is something that is farther away than the thing that I am listening to and I cannot hear my thing yeah so loud cars why the fuck can I hear your car when I have all of my windows up just and my goddamn radio playing very loud. Yes I agree my podcast playing loud why can I hear your car instead of the thing that's close to me that's loud I agree and that's how I feel about almost everything. But also notice that like if I am listening like in the mornings I'll listen to a podcast and like I have it already kind of quiet because everyone in the house is still sleeping so I'll put it up close to my ear and brush my teeth and sometimes my teeth brushing is too loud for me to understand my podcast like I can hear the the um vocal intonations and stuff like that but I don't know what they're saying. And it I get so angry.

SPEAKER_03 53:19

So angry I don't know what happens to us I just I just know it's a real thing.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

Does that happen to you with the uh like the engines and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_03 53:33

Well yeah and but I've all I've always been sensitive to like super loud noises. I would always cover my ears but now it's led into anger yeah there like I don't like there are certain cars that I just see them and I just automatically assume you're a shithead because of what you drive like anybody with a Dodge Challenger Dodge charger like how far if you drive a huge truck and you don't actually work on a working farm or ranch. Yeah I got I got ideas about you. And then any like my dad I mean it all comes like I feel like I can say this because these are my own people okay I just remember my dad bringing home like you know his income tax he still had you know some child credit coming in and he bought himself a Chevy Silverado and put this glass pack on it which I don't know what a glass pack means but a glass pack means that then it rattles your windows and your teeth and everything when you get in it.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

And nothing says happy 27th birthday to a dad of a nine year old like a glass pack apparently happy birthday dad you're so yeah so I had multiple people that I dated who drove I feel like it was a Honda hashtag of Big CR CRX something yeah like a little heart up but they removed all the shit in the back and put subwoofers and speakers and that's what I think of but I have this thing where like if I'm in a car or leaned up against like bleachers like in a gym and somebody's walking on them it vibrates just enough that I get like car sick or in a car and the speakers are playing so loud it's like vibrating the seat I'll get car sick oh damn I remember being in one of those damn geek you know super geeked out uh the guy drove like this Bronco like an O Day Bronco and then put all the speakers and subwoofers and bass and all that shit in it.

SPEAKER_03 56:01

And me and my sister climbed up in it and every time the bass would hit it would change our rhythm of our heart and I just remember her looking at me and me looking at her like I'm like 15 she's like 13 and I'm like my heart feels weird and she's like me to and then we just kept on going because that was the 90s that's funny like it was more than just like your I I mean at this point I don't even care that it was damaging our eardrums I it was full on changing the rhythm of our fucking hearts in the OJ bro if we were to look at my first 10 memories eight of them are vomiting in places I shouldn't be watching she's a puka she's a puka black girl I would get all carsters one of my first memories and one of like three memories that I have of preschool is just sitting in the back of this van where like the seats were around right it was like a bench around and I was sitting like here and I projectile vomited on everyone in the back and all the kids were crying and like just uh all of those backpacks on desks on tables like when you'd go up front to the counter to pay like a cashier I'd throw up for that like I would get so sick I had like a 90210 locker backpack that meant the world to me. Jason Priestley I know I had a Jason Priestley shirt that I would wear and with my backpack yeah and I threw up in it so many times it ruined it because that's a that could have been a real banger right now like if we still had that no it ruined it okay first of all we just need to do a little quick update okay so this is the chick that has all the scars and this toad has been telling her like so what size is your ring like he's trying to figure out how big she is weight wise and then she keeps on like throwing up boundaries and he's like she's like boys don't like me and then she opens up about surgery and he literally gets up and gets a beer and says sorry I'm still listening I just need another drink and now they've completely had it out because he was a little fucking bitch.

SPEAKER_01 59:03

She told him about what was wrong with her and he opened up a fucking beer she told him that she had a lot of medical issues and he got up and drank a beer that one and he ended it that guy that guy right there she said I opened up talking about my story she has med still has medical issues and she opened up about that and he literally was like no today so I feel like that is the experience of so many people and it's painful and dismissing and invalidating but then if it's like a chronic illness that you can't see it makes it even worse because people will throw on oh yeah you're crazy on top of whatever it is yeah yeah and I'm sure she looks she's thinking holy shit I can't even get a date and I'm behind a wall like they haven't even seen the scars yet and they can't make it past the the story yeah okay whatever that guy is he needs to go he is the he's the spreader and then he is the tormentor okay so these two are the guy with the hair no these these two are okay no it was the last guy that was being I was like no I thought they were pretty good although he did confess to being in love already yes with her he's trying to figure out if he's ever been with a white woman he is beautiful why is he I bet you he's a a real sh just some way there has to be because I'm sorry if you were an amazing person you would have already been taken and you wouldn't need to go on TV how many of these people do you think actually have jobs well according to them all of them um I you know I don't know do you think any of them filed for like FMLA to go do the teams I don't know that would be my work right for FMLA and then they're like we saw you on Love on the spectrum and I'm like I didn't say that I wasn't love sick I was gonna say it's always that like common thing on TV like I get I skip work to go to the baseball game and I get caught at the but they're like I had to go to a facility for two months to get a special treatment love is blind oh what the So does it open like what is like does it open now I want to know this is the beginning it's just the beginning I what I love you where'd the fucking rose come from I don't know but why are we also saying I love you oh my god listen I consult and let their like let therapy clients even just like talk to me one solid session before they pick me because they need to see me they need to hear me because I tell them every time if if I feel annoying now it's just gonna get worse that's the stupidest shit I've ever seen you're not engaged stop it and you're thirty not it those ladies are not to be older right like that chick is not 33 I'm sorry that chick is not 33 I'm sorry those girls are not your friends they are supporting this trade oh my they really got they really got engaged that's some stupid ass shit oh maybe somebody had a seizure from a dairy allergy you never know you don't so um I was gonna say when they were giving kind of that wrap up sort of like preview showing the set and stuff the women's quarters and the men's quarters were obviously part of the sets so when they're doing filming do they call the women in and film them there and then send them home and then have the men do it separately or is it everybody comes in together because then they're all seeing each other I don't know I was gonna say like even if they're arriving for work or leaving at the end of the day they're gonna see each other in the parking lots. They're gonna stop at the same stoplights one would think yeah

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

My God have mercy on their souls. Yes. Okay. Is there anything you wanted to say? I made it through a solid episode and gummy nerds. So it's been a really good time.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

So, um, what are your thoughts? Going to do it again? Going to continue the love is blind and watch more episodes.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:33

I don't know. I'm gonna keep searching. Maybe, maybe I can find something about the octopi again. I don't know. So far, I kind of just want to watch watch other animals solve problems and puzzles because these humans are real human. Pains. Painfully predictable and painfully shallow.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

I like my octopus.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

Well put. So thank you for joining us tonight. I hope you enjoyed this episode of Love is Blind, and we will catch you the next time you want to borrow some besties.