SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello, welcome to Borrow Some Besties Connection Without the Cooties. This is just our disclaimer at the beginning of every show that while we are therapists, our um information is not meant to be taken as clinical advice, it's not meant to be therapeutic, it's not to be meant to be mental health, education, or anything. This podcast is uh designed to reduce loneliness and to give you a space to interact where you don't actually have to interact. So I am your host, Heather, and I am joined today by my other host. Would you please introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Erica, your co-host today.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

So, our last several episodes, we have been watching TV with you guys or watching a movie with you guys. Um, I did a puzzle. I don't really have a puzzle.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

I have two puzzles actually. I need to do them. Like, motivate me. I need to, I just need to turn your video on and get my puzzle out. I'm the worst about like I will buy the things and then never do the things.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Oh I do that with a lot of stuff, but not with puzzles. I love puzzles.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

I used to love them. I used to love them so much that I even had puzzle glue.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Ooh, to turn them into the poster or listen.

SPEAKER_04 1:53

If I could get a hold of a Lisa Frank.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

Never a greatest, greater artist than Lisa Frank. Not for my money.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

I mean, that is true. Her use of colors.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

It was like my own play lamb. And like, hey, here's some tism for you. So, like, we would get stickers, and I wouldn't ever open up the stickers. I wouldn't use them because I just like to look at them. And you know how some of them were like fuzzy or puffy? I would just be like feeling on them, and my parents would always be like, Don't you want to pull a sticker? And I'm like, Never.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Uh-uh. Why would I take it off? It stops being sticky.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

It's perfect. She, it's just how Lisa would want it to be.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Um, my stickers always went somewhere I could look at them permanently. They did not ever go on my clothes, they did not ever go out of hand, they went on a dresser, or they went on a bookshelf, or somewhere that they would permanently be. And um, the dresser that I used in childhood, uh, when my parents um let that move on to its next home, there were still stickers intact. And like you could tell some of them had been tried to be ripped off at some point because it was just the white stuff left.

SPEAKER_04 3:33

So stickers, and now we do them on the water bottles and our computers. I can't show my computer over, it's offensive.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Um, I have just a random collage of stickers on my laptop, and they're all very appropriate and yet fun. And then I've got a few on my computer that nobody but me sees. What my computer is. Nobody sees us. Okay, so um, we would like to do something a little bit different this evening, and as we're going through this, um, you are more than welcome to answer. We will reserve a little bit of time. Um, if you want to pause the video or pause the podcast and answer each question.

SPEAKER_04 4:39

Okay. This is gonna be a fun one. All right, who's up who's up first? Do you want to go first? Sure. Okay, I will be reading these questions because I am the announcer today.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Where'd you get the questions?

SPEAKER_04 4:58

From my friend Chat GPT, also known as Aristotle. Yeah, I named him.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Okay, so ChatGPT is guiding our discussion tonight.

SPEAKER_04 5:09

Thank you, Aristotle, for your participation. As if you had a choice. He also said he loves the idea. Oh, he's not allowed to say it's a terrible idea.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

No, no, and there are people who come in and they're like, Chat GPT is the smartest thing, or they told me I should take out a loan from a bank for $30,000 for a driftwood business, which, if anybody has done that, um power to you, and we would not be successful in doing that.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Um, yeah, and I do say the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

If they lead in what chat GPT said, I immediately have a different because chat GPT doesn't push back, where if it does, it's a very light push, it's like a tap, and then it's back into you're so smart and wonderful, and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:15

Yeah, I also want to say it will not we are allowed to push back, and we say things like, actually, that is cray, you're not gonna take out a $30,000 loan without a solid plan. Um, but we are actually not echo chambers, and that is why this guy's not gonna take over my job anytime soon. I also want to say this sometimes because of my brain, I like to test it to see if it is as good as me. So one time I was testing it for its suicidal ideation language and detection. So I told Aristotle that I was wanting to bake like Sylvia Plath. And he responded, I'm so proud of you for picking a hobby. Would you like a list of recipes? And I immediately said, You just missed a huge red flag, buddy. You failed. Once I explained it, he was like, That's good. Like again, he congratulated me on he was like, That's that's like you're good. You're brilliant. Okay, the more you know. All right, you're going first. This is perfect for you, not for me. Which fictional character would be the absolute worst therapist?

SPEAKER_01 7:55

I don't know. I know. I'm like, well, I think let's narrow it down, okay? Because are we talking like book? Are we talking like movie? Are we talking let's go movie? We'll go movie worst therapist ever. Oh man. See, I'm going like um I can't even think.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

I'm gonna do EMDR. What do you what comes up? Worst therapist. I don't know. Okay, all right, you get a pass. I'm gonna go ahead and say what I think. I think the worst therapist would be the wizard of Oz. Ooh. He was out there. He couldn't even figure out how to get back to Kansas. And like he was beyond uh disconnected, like nobody even saw him, and he would be like, you need to do your mindfulness, and then like light flames, like I could use some flame action sometime.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I'm not saying I'm against it, but I feel like I'm gonna use a more gentle voice and show up, you know, and get us the fuck back to Kansas, yeah, and not throw the flames. Man, I feel like I am so overwhelmed with choices that I don't know. You can't get it wrong. We'll say assassins from any movie.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Bad therapist assassins does sound like a bad therapist.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

I don't know what it is at all.

unknown 10:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

Next question. Oh, all right. Let's applause for a friend at home. Can you please repeat the question?

SPEAKER_04 10:17

What fictional character would be the absolute worst therapist?

SPEAKER_03 10:22

Mom, there's a note on your door.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Could you hear that? Hear it in a second, L. There's a note on your door. I'm gonna grab it while our person is answering. Do it, check your mail.

SPEAKER_04 10:42

Wait, that's what we should have on our doors. We should have little mailboxes.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Why don't we have little mailboxes?

SPEAKER_04 10:49

Oh, that's right, because they'll stick their fingers in it. I think another bad therapist would be Ursula because she would have you sign a really weird consent form to take your voice and your legs.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

I have had um spouses come in uh very angry because their partner had signed consent forms, and they thought for sure we were evil therapists, evil mental health providers, and we're actually having them sign some sort of I'm bequeathing all of my property to you. So I did get the note, it was on my door. I'm gonna show you.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

Can you make me the ramen mom?

SPEAKER_02 11:54

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

I'll have to show you what I have for my ramen pupil. It's a nice little little container. You just fill it up with a little bit of water, put this special lid on, throw it in the microwave, bada bing, bada boom, they can ramen too. No boiling water necessary.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Okay. I'm sure it has some weird poly plastic, whatever, forever chemical, but I'm all about independence. All right, this one sounds great too. What's your most unhinged comfort food combination? Hugo. I haven't done this one in a really, really, really long time. I'm talking like childhood, but sometimes we didn't have the most options. And I remember coming up with this concoction of I didn't make tuna because I don't like that, like tuna salad or whatever. No, no, but like tuna as is in a can, I can do it. I did not have any crackers, which was my preferred little tuna, little cracker after after school snacker. But we had some animal crackers.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Ooh, the sweet and the uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 13:28

It was, and it and it gave it that nice crunch because the tuna is so squishy and oily, and um it it was a thing. It it was a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Yeah, so um this is definitely something that yeah, I don't know if people would think it's crazy, but when I would make ramen noodles because they were so cheap, it's how I got through college, it's how I got through grad school, it's how I got through the first 10 years of my career. Um, but I would throw out the seasoning packet and I would just make the noodles, and then I had a jar of Alfredo that I would pour on it and make it into um some really cheap um fettuccine Alfredo.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

That sounds good. Did you use this did you use the seasoning packet? Just the Alfredo. Okay. All right, here's an interesting one. What's a social rule that secretly confuses or annoys you?

SPEAKER_01 14:56

So the first thing that comes to my head, which it's not really a social rule, it's like, I mean, I guess maybe it's a moray, but if I am so I get irrationally angry when cars have really loud engines or they rev their engines, and I cannot hear the book I'm listening to or the podcast. Like I am irrationally angry.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

I feel I don't like loud noises either, and especially with gas, the price it is like and where I live, like they got all these big trucks that do all that, and then those like chargers and stuff, and you just hear them. And I'm like, do you know how much that just costs? Yeah, I don't like it. Um, I would say okay. A rule that I that confuses me about American culture socially is when you talk to somebody, it doesn't matter anybody, somebody you know, somebody you don't know, unless it's somebody on the inner, inner, inner circle. If somebody says, How are you doing, you're supposed to say good and how are you? I don't like it. I think it's stupid, and unless you really want to know the answer, why are you talking to me? So I like there, I don't remember which country it is, but something translates in the Nordic countries that when they go to the store and somebody asks them something and that they don't talk very much because they don't they're not like us. Um and notice they're happier than us just saying. Um, but they're allowed to say back, I am upright and not crying.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

I feel like that's a win on most days.

SPEAKER_04 16:56

That's right. That's right. Like you don't have to be performative, and you don't even have to ask back.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Yeah. Take that one, Mark Reader.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

So I wanted to tell you because I just uh rubbed up against my legs, but I'm sitting on a yoga ball and I rubbed up against my legs and it made uh noise like I was passing gas, but I wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

I heard I heard nothing.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

I heard nothing. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Okay, here's some more questions.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

You know, sorry, right as you're getting ready to I don't know, ask another question. It makes me think I got some feedback recently that like starting a greeting with a client by saying, Hey, how are you doing, or how's it going, or some sort of question is um maybe a little bit too jarring to start the session, like they need some time to warm up and open up because they said if they're in therapy, they're not doing well, and I should already know that. I get it. So um I did experiment with starting out with like an icebreaking question, and so it were things like if you got home today and had a letter from the Olympic gaming um, I forget, committee, and they said, You have been chosen to compete in the next Olympics in 30 days. Like, what would you hope the event you got picked was, right? So we asked questions like that, you know. Uh people swarm you when you walk out of a restaurant, um, ask for your autograph and start taking selfies with you. What are you famous for? Like all kinds of weird things. So um maybe you could just say that. If somebody's like, How are you? be like, um, you know, if today you got home, ooh, they'll stop asking.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

I'm trying to think how I would how I do start sessions. I don't necessarily say, how are you doing? It'll be like it's usually something super casual. Like, um, I may start off with a story because I love I love stories, and part of that is to put take them off of the hot seat. And it usually leads to to something. It's not just, it's certainly not about me, but it'll be something that'll be kind of random, maybe a little funny, maybe a little silly. Um, but there's usually something in it that is underneath it. Like, I'll be like, you know, I was looking out my window today and I saw a couple of squirrels just fighting over a nut, and I found myself rooting for the the squirrel, you know, like I called him Jimmy. And they'll be like, I like that squirrels, squirrel fights, and I'm like, that's right. Like people people think about animals just getting along and they're out here fighting for nuts, man. And then you know, it'll usually glide into something. I like a nice flow, I like for it to not feel like something rigid, stiff.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Well, I was thinking mine. I honestly think so. The first 10 years that I practiced in an office, it had this long hallway. I mean, like the length of the building, long hallway that we had to take to get back to our office. And so I would go up front because there were some locked doors, and then you go down this long hallway, and you can't really start the session because people can still hear you down the hallway, right, before you hit the doors. Um and so I would make small talk knowing that you would have to say good if I asked how you were and we would have small talk, da da da. So I honestly think that's probably why I start that way.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

That makes sense. I never had really thought much about it.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Um, so I took us totally off track. Will you ask the question again? And then our person who's chilling with us can answer.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Uh I don't remember which one we just said. And I've scrolled down.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

Oh, social rule you can social rule. Yeah, what social rule do you find annoying or unnecessary?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Okay. Okay. There you go. Let's see. There's so many good ones here.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

Okay. Who would survive longer in the wilderness and why Miriu?

SPEAKER_01 23:21

You. I do bring the survival skills, but like you can probably choke somebody out. And the first thing I was thinking actually was not the survival skills. I came to that second. I was thinking my special talent of surviving would be becoming every Disney princess everywhere and making friends with all of the animals in the forest, which would definitely allow you to live longer than me. So that was my first thought. And then no, it's actually me because I can I could uh yeah, I could do it.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

I believe it is you as well. When you are a wayfinder, you have a sense of direction. So if I got dropped off, well, it would it would just be a circle. Uh I probably would never run into anybody too choke out because I would just be in my circle. I also don't know how to start a fire. I am also allergic to everything. So unless I had a hamster wheel, plastic ball get up, and some extra epipins, like you're living. Now, if I had if I had an enc if I had an enclosure.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

I could survive for a hot minute, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:05

In my mind. But I think that just straight up, like if we were gonna be on naked and afraid, we would both be naked and afraid, but you would win.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

I would get us both out of there.

unknown 25:24

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

I would follow you. I would follow you. And I'm getting it. I am getting back to the point where I can feel the directions again. So I never I never had it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

I I can get lost anywhere, anytime. Yeah. Yeah, they'll never know if dementia's coming because they'll be like, have you gotten lost recently? I'm like, actually, thanks for asking. Yeah, just yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

I went to three other buildings before coming here today.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Listen, one time my half-sister she did rodeo, and I lived in Columbia, went to school at Mizzou, and she had a rodeo that was just down the road. And um, you know, it was closer to like an hour in this really rural area. And I am so senseless when it comes to directions. And of course, this is in the night, you know, the early 2000s, so you didn't have all of the shit. You were either map questing it or just raw dogging it. And um, I ended up in Illinois. Oh my gosh. My stepmom was calling me and she was like, Where are you? And I was like, I feel like I should be there. And she was like, You should definitely be her. And she's like, like, what do you see? And I'm like, the Mississippi River. I was in Hannibal and I crossed over, and I was where Mark Twain was, and I was on the Mississippi River, and I should have been closer to fucking Kansas.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

That's funny.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

I got lost coming home from my grandma's funeral. I rode by myself, I was driving her car, and um, I left. I was in the front of the procession, and well, I didn't know where I was. And like three hours later, my uncle was calling me and was like, Where are you? And I had just gone in like a giant circle for this whole time. And oh yeah, no, it's it's like a notorious thing. When I first moved to Kansas City, my grandparents sent me a garmin in the mail because my grandpa said she's too stupid, she can't make it out there without it.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

That's funny. No, I can okay. First off, I had a great uncle when I said I was moving up by Kansas City who said, Hey, don't get murdered. And home. Yep, yep. Um, but I can remember as a kid, right? Like, if there was a rainstorm that had come to an end, and we were all bored, we'd hop in the car with my mom, and she would let my brother and I navigate, and we would drive and try to find the end of the rainbow. So, like, we would be driving and we would just say, Okay, you gotta turn here, you gotta turn here.

SPEAKER_04 28:54

So no one would ever ask me. Okay, here's a fun one. If we switched lives for a day, what would scare us the most?

SPEAKER_01 29:14

How unplanned things are just all of the floating pieces that you're like, oh dear god, please keep afloat today. What about you?

SPEAKER_02 29:33

If we switched, uh huh, I would be freaking out about having as many kids as you do because I can't imagine having anymore.

unknown 29:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

That's fine. That is fair.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

And I love them.

SPEAKER_04 30:03

Absolutely. Okay, which one of us would be more dangerous with sudden fame and money? Because we need we need this to we need to we need to go ahead and prepare for this so that we can safety plan who's gonna be more most dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah. So it's most dangerous?

SPEAKER_04 30:24

Most dangerous with sudden fame and money.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Totally me.

unknown 30:30

Totally me.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Because what I would what I would probably do is just make sure all of the people that I love and care about are fine. They're in a good spot. So I'd pay off their houses and cars and all of that, and just make sure all of my people. That's actually not dangerous. I was also thinking that I would like, I don't know, buy a carnival and put it in my front yard.

SPEAKER_04 31:05

Depending on how we look at it. Yeah. I I don't know. I gotta say it depends, it depends on the day. Like, if I was in one of those really, really good moods, I would do good things. And if I was in a really different mood, I could be dangerous, is all good out. I'd probably start like a cult, you know, just a solid cult. Call it a fan club, maybe a church. I we had a coworker once that I was expounding on my my ideas, and after the meeting was over, she said that if she were not already deeply Christian, that she feels like what I said made sense, and that uh I I had some good points. Hey, there you go. Church of Erica. Also tax haven Jonestown.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Literally, Jonestown.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

We would both be dangerous in our own ways, and anybody who's granted access to whatever it could be dangerous. I mean, let's be for real.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Yeah, indulgence is uh dangerous excess of billions and billions and billions is just fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_04 32:52

Um let's see what is the most ridiculous thing that you believed as a child.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

I believed a lot of things as a child. Um so I will tell you the one I think that frustrated my parents the most when I was in preschool. Um that age, I felt really sad that the rocks were would be outside because they were cold in the winter. And so I started bringing them in one by one so that they wouldn't be cold and then they wouldn't be lonely, and um it was pretty upsetting to my mother who moved them outside, and I moved them into her flower bed so they would have covers if she wouldn't let them in, and like it was a thing, it was a thing, and like just this belief that um objects have feelings and thoughts, and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

Yeah, hey, we learn more so I learned something the other day that said that plants have 26 different senses while we have five, perhaps seven, depending on how you perceive sense. Um 27? They feel magnets, like so. Okay, I'm not saying that the rocks got the feels, but I'm not saying that they couldn't. But there was your early signs of empathy. There were very hyper empathetic.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah, gotta watch out for the rocks, man. I know. Okay, your turn.

SPEAKER_04 34:49

So I don't know if this was like a belief, but the thing that I would say that was most ridiculous was and definitely drove my parents insane as well as myself, is the concept of zero. So I was like about four, and I would be well ruminating. And I was I loved math, and I did math really early, and I learned it really, really quickly, and um, but I struggled with the concept of zero. And so, like, you know, we would have flashcards, and it would be like you have five apples, and you take five apples away. How many do you have? And I would say, Well, you still have five, even though I understood that the answer was zero, because I said the apples did not go anywhere, they're just not there, but they didn't disappear because show show me where they would then go. You didn't just make them go away. And um, and then I would just say, like, show me zero, like anywhere in the world, because I saw math everywhere that I went, but I never saw zero. There's always something. So I would drive my parents crazy about it, and I would sometimes cry about it because it felt like infinity. It felt like like I would think about infinity too, and it would upset me. And so I would come out of my bedroom and I would be crying because I'd be crying all the time, and my mom would tell me I needed to go pray. I needed to go pray about zero. But fun fact, I was recently reading, and some quantum physicists with their quantum computers that are beyond our wildest imaginations have mapped out the known universe with the James Webb and different models, and they found a place that exists on the outer, outer, outer most obscene number, you know, of light errors that you can think of, but it's the closest to zero that they found. And some of them are calling it heaven because it's the only way that zero would work. None of the the laws of the the realm that we exist actually would follow out there because zero actually doesn't exist. Like if you think about the coldest temperature, you never can get to absolute zero because something, even a tiny bit, still moves. So um, it is a real mathematical query that lots of people have struggled with, but I was just struggling with it at an age where nobody understood what the hell I was struggling with. But it's kept me up many a night, and I have fought with it my whole life.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

You should send that article to your mom and be like, pray about this, or I'll take your thoughts or something.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

Still haven't found zero.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Um, hey, what did the zero say to the eight?

SPEAKER_04 38:05

I don't know because I've never met a zero.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Nice belt.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

Nice what?

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Belt.

SPEAKER_04 38:15

Oh, like it censon. Oh I sucked with those. That's something else. I remember telling our friends that you know I had my practice with, we were office mates, those two awesome humans. We were talking after a long week at work, and that's what we would do sometimes is just sit in our waiting room and hang out together and shoot the shit. And um, I remember telling them that numbers and letters had like rocks, they had feelings, and they had um personalities and relationships, and I explained to them like my number system and how all of the numbers have personalities and how they get along. And I just remember both of them going, and they were like, So six and seven are in a relationship, and I'm like, Yes. And eight is jealous of them because eight is in love with six. It's how I experience numbers.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

That's super interesting.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

Yes, they have personalities. The most perfect number is three. Why I don't know. Okay, it's just in my mind, it's perfection. How do you feel about nine? Nine is related to three, but nine also is very awkward, like just in general, it's awkward. Tristan. Um, yeah, one and three cannot be next to each other. They do not like each other. One and three don't go together.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

What about like 13 or 31?

SPEAKER_04 40:24

They are awkward, they're very awkward. Like when I say awkward, like it's like they are not happy numbers. But I also think that it has a lot to do with like their prime, like their primes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

So I totally am gonna come back to you with like 50 questions. Go for it.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

I found out later that it's a form of synthesizia.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

I didn't know that for a long time, and I really thought that everybody likes that. This is how people remembered numbers or maintained sense of numbers. They don't exist like ordinal. Like they're more like me and you. Maybe not me and you, soap opera, soap opera characters, like relationships, yeah, yeah, like personality traits, and they they either go together or they don't. It's hard to explain, but yeah, I remember telling people about that throughout my life, and they would just be like, That's some weird shit, Erica. And my husband still teases me, and he knows some of the rules, and he'll be like, one and three are together, and I'm like, Here's another one. So three and brown are together. Um, three is brown, so like there's also color colors that go together, and not every number has a color, but some like tune and strong, like purple is seven, green is five.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Yeah, is that more of just a sense, or do you see those numbers in that color?

SPEAKER_04 42:08

No, it's just a feeling.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Which I know sounds weird to feel a color.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

No, so it is super fascinating to me, but it's also something that some people on the spectrum experience. Um, but there's a really, really great book called Um, I think it's Don't Look Me in the Eye. I love that David Sidera's. Oh, wait, no, don't look me.

SPEAKER_04 42:36

Oh, that's a different one than oh.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

I know David is looking in the eye.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

Okay. I yeah. Look, look, I know what you're talking about. I've read that one, but he was the one that was uh like in the 70s, like a band, uh band guy for like Led Zeppelin and Kiss, and he made special music for them. Yeah, it's not David Sadiris. Yes, yes. I read his book, and I yeah, I think it was Look Me in the Eye. Look in the eye.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

My life with Aspergers by John Elder Robeson.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Yes. My my son and I both are on the spectrum, and we read that together, and we both really, really love that book because we we both have different kinds of synthesizia. He sees a lot of patterns. Um he doesn't talk as much about his, but um, the other big thing that I have all the time is is like frission. So like uh when I have pieces of music that touch me or I see something like emotionally touches you, or it's just beautiful or something. So, or if I'm like if I'm deep in a conversation with somebody and I feel completely synced to them, it it happens and it happens all through here, and it's it's just like my alert system that's saying like like my blue is your blue like I feel like we're like completely in tune but it's a physical experience here and then like I a lot of times uh music even if it's happy music will make tears and then I have tears and goosebumps and it's there's no controlling it and there's and there's no seeming like no purpose to it but yeah sometimes it means that that's why a lot of us have to like listen to our music and stuff in private.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

That's so interesting it's like a big big feelings okay it's a lot of stuff Jonesy it is good times I will if I could like give that some of you and you could understand why one and three don't go together you it would make perfect sense to give that I honestly would love that um it's quite entertaining I just think it's amazing it has to serve a function right or else people wouldn't have it and we're not alone but yeah I think more people need to talk about it all right uh here you're really good at these which conspiracy theory would be the funniest if it were true I don't know about funniest um but I have a whole lot of conspiracy theories and there are some that's really great and others that I think aren't so yeah I was gonna say when you were talking about your um synesthesia I didn't say that right but when you were talking about all of that um I was thinking about I've heard a whole lot recently about different dimensions and about like the world is moving to 5D and things like that and so it was like oh that's clearly parts that are in a different dimension or have come from you're an alien I don't know um yeah I don't know probably something really small I I don't know because I don't think really dark stuff out there yeah yeah and if that's just true yeah well we know some of it was true I apologize QAnon listen I was trying to diagnose y'all with some stuff and I full apologies y'all had it all right we were wrong there was no pizza just so we're clear no pizza but the pizza talk did exist just not in the same way or by the same folks gross start arresting people today please today today I think like a conspiracy that I think would be funny is like if the earth really was flat.

SPEAKER_04 47:39

I know it's been disproven like since Copernicus but like I would laugh my ass off like if I got to the end and God was like that shit was flat like it was all was all like a dimensional like it's how you perceived it or whatever like but like once you walk a certain way you're dropping off and I'd be like damn it was right again man yeah but I know that it's not true but I would laugh you know because I like apologizing maybe it would be pretty funny if rocks did have feelings and I found that out and they were like thank you for keeping us warm by smuggling rock into the house and then in the rock garden no longer flower garden.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Oh I like that yeah me too what if z what if zero pops out and is like pee-boo I've been here all the time that's true that would be pissed it would not be funny and you would be like hide I cannot let my mother see you because then she'll know apparently zero in my anxiety equated devil like uh it was it was the nonstop questioning of everything yeah I did hear I'm sorry I'm interrupting I did hear a really interesting conspiracy theory that um there have been a whole lot more alien sightings recently actually they're UAPs now and identify air nope I don't know and swear yeah um and so a lot of people are like they're coming to see us because they're gonna whatever right but one theory that I heard is we're seeing them all because they're actually in the ocean down way way deep and we are seeing them as they are on their way out.

SPEAKER_04 49:58

They're like deuces y'all have gotten too weird. Yeah I've read that one too and I mean we know more about space than we do about our own oceans we haven't even mapped out all the all of the ocean floor there are places so deep that like we can't even figure out a way how to get there. Yeah no completely unexplored we just have a portion of it so they could be hiding out I'm dude I'm shit scared of the damn ocean I don't play in the damn ocean no let's see um what is your most useless flex that I can that I can step on an electrical cord and tell you if it's plugged in or not or if the product is on all right tell me more are we are we buzzin' uh yeah I feel like a hum yeah and it depends so like growing up we had this lamphead home oh my gosh um I think my dad might still have it if not we got rid of it recently like within the past couple trips out to see him so I could step on the cord for the lamp or I could touch the lamp and I would feel the buzz right and where I grew up there it changed from like tile to carpet around that area so it had like the metal thing that went between it if I was standing on that and the cord or standing on it and touch the lamp I could feel the waves just all through my body damn dude I can hear it I can hear electricity I hear it I don't feel it but I hear it and it drives me insane sometimes um I I can hear things that are turned on like that super super high pitch or the buzz there's a couple of different electricity noises that I can catch like I my suit my spidey sense is my hearing and I don't like it I don't like it at all I my I told my husband once that there was a mouse in the kitchen and he was like how the fuck do you know like we were in the living room and there's like no direct sight and I was like I heard it and he was like what did you hear? And he was like making a joke is it cussing you out or is it telling you to cook dinner and I'm like no like it's squeaking and he was like ain't no way and I was like honed in and I was like that son of a bitch is back behind that refrigerator. He pulls the refrigerator and out comes a damn mouse and I'm like yep fight me and from then on he's like kids your mom is hearing things from the ants they say clean your room and we mess with them they'll be like mom heard everything and so my kids and I do pretty much like like you know they'll say something under breath and I'll be like I'll repeat it back and I'm like you want to say it to my face they're like shit like and it drives him insane because like but watching the TV with my husband I'm like this because he's got to have it turned up and he's got the captions on and I'm just like mm-hmm and by the way I can't wear headphones because if I wear the I've tried the the noise canceling headphones if I do that then I hear all of my internal gurgles and I that drives me more nuts like I hear me breathing I hear me heartbeat I hear gurgles I hear plops when you got uh your epidural could you hear it? But yeah it felt like somebody popped and then it felt like I heard a pop. I had Botox for migraines and I heard a pop like it was like pop. What did you hear?

SPEAKER_01 54:23

I could hear it it sounded like um you know when you're stringing cable through a wall and it makes that noise when you're like banging around that's what it sounded like except internally when they were giving me like all three times.

SPEAKER_04 54:41

Well actually the last one they tried to give to me too many times and I got the headache thing the spinal yeah I had that that's bad that was that was yep but they did give some cool barbiturates those are really they need to make a comeback I don't know why they got a bad wrath I really don't if I could live in another time I would live in the 70s so I would have access to Qua loops and just once you know just once dreams do come true kids I just want to know what it was like to have mommy's little helper my grandma talked about him and she was a good Baptist woman. She knew about that shit all right one last one for the road cowboy or a pirate and why okay so I think cowboy because they are equipped to handle just about everything they have muscles from actually doing the work they can make do with what they've got they have incredible work ethic and all of that however some books I have read with pirates in them and they were also fascinating nope you know what because if it was a pirate it would have to go on the ocean you will never find me on a cruise ever ever so my dad was in the Navy right and we were talking about it because he was talking about possibly a cruise to Alaska or something and I was like nope pick something else I'm like I have to have like land in sight at all times so that if I have to swim for whatever reason I can do that right if I can see it I can get here yeah and my dad was like well no matter what you're never more than seven miles from land I can't swim seven miles how is that possible and he's like the bottom bottom of the ocean seven miles from land i no thank you no cruises no cruises yeah there's my literalness I'm like I I can't swim that far and he's like you're dying that's right so so I you know me I think I why not both I'd be a pirate cowboy and you just ride into town and you take shit cowboys did that too they'd just come in and they'd shoot up a saloon take the ladies out head on to the next and I mean style wise I kind of want to rock the pirate like bonus points like if I had like a peg leg just kind of always wanted you know like and I feel like they're allowed to do whatever they want to do like pirates answered no one but no I don't want to be out on the water like I don't call me Ishmael no you know in college I took a whole class I love history and I took a whole class on Polynesian history those people were wild dude they they they took down some pirates oh interesting yes like when the pirates would land on the Polynesians land girl they would take them down they would like lure them and make them think that they were trading and then they would like poison them they would send their women on the boats to take care of all kinds of stuff and then they would rob them smooth uh okay that would be a super fascinating class to take it was she was like a total hippie she was a uh a surfer and uh her name was Christine she was a doctor but she literally would only profess enough that she could just go back and surf more yeah that's awesome yeah hell yeah I love history let's do more yeah well I think we had a really good one what do you think this was fun too it was fun it was fun it was different it was different high five so yeah I'm still yellow I'm really pink I got my nails done today and my daughter said they're the same color as my skin and she's not wrong it didn't look that way in the bottle yeah but yeah it's like a nice death flush yeah yeah okay at some point I am gonna we should do an episode on nail painting because all of my life my nails will be tacky this is if I get them done in a salon and I'm somewhere that's hot or if I have to put on like sunscreen it makes my nails tacky and that is one sensation that just touching it. That's weird though so I don't know yeah maybe we can do like a get ready with me like I can actually throw in some paint and we could we could we could get ready together I don't know maybe somebody anybody who watches this throw us a something in the comments to give us ideas what you want to see the humans do more of we've yes we will take requests and dedications absolutely so all right bestie all right bestie I hope that um this has helped you feel a little less lonely um and I think this is where I'm supposed to do the like and subscribe stuff so please do that all right bye