Obsessing over Foxwoods, Mahjong & Clara Sherman

Let's cut to the chase. Kyle forces Emily to come clean about the ongoing nepotism allegations surrounding the pod, especially for the 90s kids in the Northeast. Emily goes into the hottest furniture collab on the market and Kyle shares his tank top that hugs all the right spots for under $10.

Then Clara Sherman stops by the WOWY offices to talk about her company So Bam Fun and how she is making mahjong accessible to a whole new generation. Later, Clara shares her ~COMFORTABLE~ obsession that proves you can get great jeans for less. We end with a round of Obsessed Or Over It, including a shocking revelation about the American public school system.

00:00 – Welcome to WOWY
05:06 – Emily’s Obsession
08:03 – Kyle’s Obsession
12:22 – Clara's Interview
30:50 – Clara's Obsession
39:46 – Obsessed or Over It

New show, new obsessions, every Wednesday.

Hosts: Emily Hymes and Kyle O'Donnell
Guest: Clara Sherman
Executive Producer: Julia Aubuchon
Producers: Drew Downing and Ben Gottlieb
Graphic Designer: Maddie Jones
Original Music: Reuben Alexander
For RaffHouse Productions: Haleigh Raff and Glenn Raff

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This Week's Obsessions:
Emily: Emma Chamberlain x West Elm Collab
Kyle: Target's A New Day Ribbed Tank Top
Clara: Gap's High-Rise Stride Wide-Leg Jeans

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

We're Emily and Kyle. We started as coworkers in late night television and now we're best friends exploring NYC and our FYPs.

SPEAKER_04 0:07

This is an interview show about obsessions. Ours, theirs, and maybe yours too. Welcome to We're Obsessed With You. Emily.

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Kyle.

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Hi everyone.

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Hi.

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Welcome to We're Obsessed With You.

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The show about The Thing.

SPEAKER_04 0:26

You can't do this to me.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

I also don't know what to say next.

SPEAKER_04 0:29

Welcome to We're Obsessed With You, the show where we talk to the people we're obsessed with about the things they're obsessed with. I'm Kyle O'Donnell.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

I'm Emily Himes.

SPEAKER_04 0:36

Emily, how are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

I'm doing well. I have a headache. I lost my keys this morning, but I'm back on track.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

I know. You really.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Because you were Pollyanna today.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

I was Pollyanna. I believe we should start asking our angels for help.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

And I'm doing You're my angel.

SPEAKER_04 0:50

And I said, you're gonna find your keys. You're gonna find your keys. And they Um, there's an elephant in the room. There's some allegations going about online that I just think we have to finally address from the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I think you're more excited about this than anyone else.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Yes, it is true that this is a Nepo baby podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Guess the Nepo baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:08

Yeah. Swipe up. I don't know if you can do that. Um one of us is a Nepo baby. And guess what? Like huge Nepo baby. Not the Nepo baby. Emily is a Nepo baby, as I've as I discovered many, many moons ago. Emily would be.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

So this was just the cherry on top of the icing on top of the cake.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

Yes, in the words of Lisa Barlow.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28

You years ago revealed yourself to be the niece of this woman.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Yes. That's my uncle's wife. Ringing any bells.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

There's no way to use eBay. Millions of people do. So why not you? Let's start today. Your aunt starred in an incredibly iconic eBay commercial in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yes, when eBay was like really doing commercials.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

How did that affect your childhood?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

It didn't.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

So But this next thing did.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

Yes, Emily and I went to the Yankees game as guests of Fresh Direct. Thank you, Fresh Direct.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Oh my god, it was so fun.

SPEAKER_04 2:08

We had a delicious hot dog. Delicious. And you dropped a bomb on me on the way home.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Yes, yes, on that long D train home.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

And you said that your uncle.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Yes, this is my blood uncle.

SPEAKER_04 2:19

Your blood uncle is the iconic singer of this commercial.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

You would have had to live uh in the Northeast to know this.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

Yes, and I just think a lot of our listeners live in the Northeast.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Okay. Well, some of them live in Mexico.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:35

But Emily's uncle is this person.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Take a chance, make it happen.

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Out the cork, fingers snapping, spin the wheel, round and round go. Life is good. Life is sweet. Grab yourself off a rope.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

We're singers now.

SPEAKER_04 2:56

That's probably all we can pay for.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

It's for Foxwoods.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

Yes, but it was an iconic commercial.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

It was because when I met some friends in college and they found out that was my uncle, they were like, that was just on all day long.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

That is so fucking crazy, too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

I mean, he's a jazz musician.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

Yes, he's famous in his own right.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Yes, but then this commercial really, really was big.

SPEAKER_04 3:16

It's crazy. This YouTube video has 30,000 views.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:22

The comments. Growing up in the Northeast in the early 2000s. It's just like, I need a ringtone of this in the worst way. That song is iconic. It was, and it's like I've been humming it for Do you have a jingle from your childhood that has stuck in your head?

SPEAKER_00 3:33

A jingle, not so much, but I we always will quote the IDK might be FF Jill.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

What commercial was that though?

SPEAKER_04 3:40

I think it's for Verizon.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

I think so too.

SPEAKER_04 3:42

IDK might be FF Jill.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yeah, so I say that a lot. I love that commercial. What was your jingle?

SPEAKER_04 3:47

There was a water park called Water Country. And when you drove up to it, you could turn on the radio and they would play the theme song over and over and over again. I love that theme song. Yes. That was a really good theme song.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

People don't make commercials like they used to. Say that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

I watch commercials, but I think what's more disturbing to me is that young people don't know their television history. Like, I think you ask 10 Gen Z people if they've ever heard of Gilligan's Island. They've never heard of it.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

That's what we were talking about. Like, where do you start with TV if you're like They don't have Nick at Night, so they don't Right. They don't know these classics.

SPEAKER_04 4:23

Right. And Netflix isn't buying the catalog to my two dads. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 4:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:29

Gidget isn't going to be on Hulu. Should be.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

I mean, I'm also like concerned about how because I thought everyone was watching on their laptops. Like kids aren't watching Gen Z's, no TV. Yes. People watching our laptops. But now I'm finding out that they think laptops are lame. Yes. And they're just watching on their phones. Well, that's why it's just like I don't I don't know how they're doing anything on a phone.

SPEAKER_04 4:51

Apple just launched that new like$600 laptop that's supposed to be for Gen Z.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Get people back into it. Well, what why? What's Gen Z gonna see in it that they're like, we have to have it?

SPEAKER_04 5:00

They're brightly colored and they're like customizable as opposed to like this you cannot customize.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:05

Emily. Emily, what are you obsessed with the screen?

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Okay, I'm obsessed with the Emma Chamberlain West Elm Collaboration. We love furniture. We love Emma Chamberlain. She looked great at the Met Gal a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_04 5:18

I love her coffee.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Um well I kind of want to, isn't she like, I feel like I've been watching the journey of her coffee shop opening in LA recently.

SPEAKER_04 5:25

The shop is open, yes. I've only had the can. Obviously, I don't go to LA.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yes, but like I kind of want to go to LA just to try it because she was trying like making a few recipes on TikTok recently and they looked good.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

Oh. I don't even drink to sponsor us.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Anyway, so she worked with West Elm, and the collaboration's been out for a while, but I bought like a media console slash bookshelf and it arrives tomorrow. So I'm like really excited about it.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Love.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

And so I was on West Elm again because my friend Vicky's having a birthday, and on her birthday list, she put one of the mirrors up, and I was like, oh, people are still shopping about shopping. Um I would say the theme of it is buttons. There's a lot of things that are button related over it. But she also you saw the pigeon glasses holder.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Yes, yes, I did like that. Adorable.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

And there's some like cute, um it's everything. There's furniture, but there's sheets and there's pillows.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

It's very uh like Twi countryside in a way. Yeah, something like not antiquated about it, but like classic, like pharmaceuticals.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Yeah, and West Elm leans like um mid-century modern. Yes. But I find that this to be a little yes, to your point, it's just like a little sweeter and like softer.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

I love it. Yeah. So what are some of your favorite pieces from it?

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Well, um the console I ordered.

SPEAKER_04 6:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Um, I don't that's actually a great question. I there's some sheets that are nice. I like the price point. I think I mean obviously if you're gonna order a couch or a I don't think she has a couch, but like some of it's on the high end. But a lot of it's really affordable if you want to get like I got a brand new set of sheets my aunt got me from this collab. So I'm excited to try because I'm a real big Brooklyn fan.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

So we'll see how it goes. I love a collab. There's also really cool lamps. I think there are some lamps that are nice. I know how I feel about lamps. I love lamps, and they're a good price point.

SPEAKER_04 7:05

Great.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Some like table lamps that I was interested in. But the day it's like worth a look, and I think there's something out there for everybody. Great. Because Vicky and I don't share the same style necessarily, but she liked something, I liked something, Laura liked something.

SPEAKER_04 7:18

I'm gonna just take a look. You know what I love? Pottery barn teen.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

We were talking about this recently. You always don't sleep on the teen.

SPEAKER_04 7:26

Never, never, never, PB teen is where it's at.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

They have cute things. Like, yeah, it should be it should be included when you're looking in like the main page. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

I love that. I'm gonna do a deep dive and go buy something.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

I mean, you're good on Facebook Marketplace.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Yeah, but I want to look at the Emma Chamberlain collection. And you know what a hack is for this stuff? For these collabs, wait a week and then go back to the store because everyone will have returned what they don't want.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

And this has been out for like, I'd say maybe a month and a half at this point now.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

So it's like good timing. People return it. People, yeah, the restockers. Great.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

What are you obsessed with?

SPEAKER_04 8:06

I'm obsessed with something that's on my body right now.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Oh my god, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

It's actually I know where it to be. Um, this is actually something I wore in a TikTok, and everyone started commenting on it. It's my tank top.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Oh my god, this is perfect for summer, too.

SPEAKER_04 8:21

It's perfect for summer, and it's at a great price point. And I have a confession. It's a woman's tank top. I like a tank top that is more like high. I think it accentuates the breasts more. And I so I like a higher one and I like one that kind of goes up into the pit more. I think it just makes every man look more like Superman. Like it just automatically gives you the trying. Yes. And so this is from Tarjay. Speaking of collabs, I love Target Collabs.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Target collabs are good.

SPEAKER_04 8:55

They haven't done one in a while. At least one that I care about.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Yeah. Yeah. What's the one that we liked of Rowing Blazers?

SPEAKER_04 9:03

I have so much of the rowing blazers on. But this is a New Day ribbed tank top. A New Day is a woman's brand at Target. It's like one of their exclusive things. But this tank top is$7.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 9:15

They have every single color, not really. They have white, they have gray, they have black. They're the classics. Yes. And I just love it. I think it accentuates my body really well. I love a tank top under a layer like this.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

It's good for layering with a top like that. You now, this is your time to turn those headphones off and turn your screens on.

SPEAKER_04 9:31

And thank you, Emily. A reminder that we are on YouTube. But I love this A New Day Ribbed tank top. Every guy has been commenting on it because people like a higher one. I also think you can get away with wearing this to work and then out.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Well, because I actually thought it was a short sleeve shirt. Oh no, I wish.

SPEAKER_04 9:46

Yeah. But even so, like getting my arms for free. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

No, you have to pay$7.99.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Yeah. But this is my obsession. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

I like that a lot. I should get that. And the price point is right because if you spill or you sweat, it's the summer. Just like go get another one. Exactly. I think there's things to like you can invest in, but like it's not worth investing in.

SPEAKER_04 10:05

They're always on sale.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

And they have all these different colors. Obviously, because it's a woman's, you have to like size up. I think I wear 2XL. Oh, right, because it's it's women's. It's just like Yeah, you just need to.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah. I also like. Did you order it online or do you go to the store?

SPEAKER_04 10:20

I ordered it online, but I've also gone in the store. Usually if I'm like buy a Target, I'll see if they have them because I wear them all the time. All the time.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Yeah. All the time. What I do now is if I'm ordering something whether wherever it's from, if I don't know what size I am, I order two sizes. Oh yeah. Instead of doing it, not liking it, sending it back, getting the next one. It's annoying to have to return knowing I'm gonna have to return one, but then I'm always happy that I have the right size. And I can try it out being like, I I'm not sure. Maybe the small would have fit better, the medium.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Now there's no there's no worry in the world.

SPEAKER_04 10:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Now I have both options. Yes. And I can decide.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Also, I'm gonna say some days you're large and some days you're an extra large.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

1000%. Things change. Yes. I try to do that. Day by day.

SPEAKER_04 11:00

Yeah. I have two white t-shirts that I love, and some days I wear the extra large and some days I wear the large. It's just like my body's changing.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

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SPEAKER_04 11:10

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SPEAKER_00 11:43

So do that. Let's go shopping.

SPEAKER_04 11:45

Let's talk about our guest, Emily.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

I'm so excited for our guest. She's the founder of So Bam Fun.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Yes. Our guest today is Claire Sherman. She is an American Mahjong expert. And So Bam Fun is her company, and she teaches lessons, she throws events.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

All over the country. All over the country.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

New York, Philly, Austin, Dallas, all over the place. Yeah. So it's.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

She's gonna teach us a little bit about mahjong.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Yes, we gotta get into mahjong.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

I know. I think we're gonna be obsessed.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

Definitely obsessed. Just like the opportunity to buy more stuff.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

We love it.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Clara Sherman. Hello. Welcome. We are obsessed with you. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for being here today. Of course. Um, my sister Laura, we all know Laura, she took one of your classes a few months ago and like hasn't stopped talking about mahjong and playing and how great of a teacher you were. Can you explain to our listeners what so bam fun is? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

I was living in Dallas after college, and a friend's mom taught us how to play. And I like didn't really get into it at the time. But then, like, crazy story, I won an Instagram giveaway and I won a mahjong set, and I got to go to Charleston with my mom, and like we got to go to this like mahjong event in Charleston. And I was literally like all night after that, like could not sleep because I was like, there is something here to bring like American Mahjong specifically to a younger generation of people. How am I gonna do that? Like, am I gonna make sets? Am I gonna I was like going through all these ideas and I was like, okay, that's a lot of work, you know, going through the ideas. And I was like, well, what if I just like start doing events at cool places in Dallas and see what happens? So I did, and I just was very selective about like the restaurants, the hotels that I worked with, the whole goal of like bringing people together to learn this game and like fun cool places to experience their city. And I did that for nine months, and then my twin sister was in New York at the time and was like, please, Clara, please, like, can I please bring Sobam fun to New York? And she did. And so yeah, now we're in 11 cities. I moved here in January and we're just like off to the races. That's speechless. Me too. That happened so fast. Literally, I know. I'm like, uh the the fear of scaling too quickly.

SPEAKER_04 13:59

I'm like, I hope that doesn't catch up to me because it's happening, but but also just like an Instagram giveaway like kind of created this incredible thing.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Well, you know, even my sister took the class a few months ago, and like hat now when she's not like actually playing with friends, she's on her phone, like playing anytime. Like she's playing on the app. She like hooks people, and like there is this rise of it, and it's happened so fast.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yeah, and I think it's because I mean, it's like the whole movement towards hobbies in general is and I like we've talked a lot about that. I mean, needlepoint too is coming, and I think it's because especially like the younger generations have just like socially, but also in work, it's just like we're tied to technology, like 24-7 on our phones, on our computers. It's like just essential to our lives. Yeah, and these hobbies are kind of allowing us to swing back in the other direction where it's like it's giving you something to completely shut your mind off of everything else around the world and just focus on you and whatever is like in a five-foot radius of you. Yes. Um, and yeah, I just think it's a really nice way to relax and like reset.

SPEAKER_04 14:58

I think it's also a because of our world of technology, we're so wanting of tactile things. Like everything is so streamlined and minimal now. And with needlepoint, but also mahjong, like the fact that it's something you can touch. Yeah, yeah. Like Casey Wilson on her podcast, Bitch Sess, talked about how she's obsessed with mahjong. And when she's dying, she just wants to hear people play mahjong in the background. Like, that's how relaxing the sound is to her. Yeah. And I think that's a part of it. Like, it's something you can hold and be with friends and like in the real world.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Totally. I mean, during lessons, like one of the things people comment on the most is they're like, oh my god, that sound, the sound is so satisfying. Or like the little things that are done, like they're very orderly, but like they just like the process of it. And but the sound is something people comment on like all the time. So funny. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

That's kind of how I feel about what's that one game with the the the stones you have to move into the Mankala. Mankala. I loved Mankala.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

Um big in the 90s. I wasn't remembering.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

I wasn't playing in the I wasn't playing. Really? No, but I just like Oh, I was.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

Oh, no, you were showing your age. I loved Mankala. What was it about that first time you played that got you hooked?

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Um, I wouldn't say it was the first time I played. Actually, like, if I'm being completely honest, like I kind of knew what I was doing, and then I saw like the opportunity to build this business, and I was like, well, God, I gotta figure out what I'm doing if I'm gonna go make this. And so, but I think the reason I saw something in this is because the few times I did play, like I just felt so connected to my family and the few friends that I did. Like, it was a fun way to connect with my grandmother on another level I never had before. Like, she's played for 10 plus years for the first time. We were able to sit down and like bond over something that was like a shared experience. Same with my mom, like all my sisters. And then you can also make it a social thing. Like my friends would drink, and I just felt like it's it, it it could live with me in all phases of life. Like from sitting on Thanksgiving with my grandmother to like drinking too much with my friends on a Friday night. And I just really liked that. Like I felt like it was a lifelong skill. And I don't know if I could have said at the point that I had a lifelong skill that I can do from now until the day that I die. And I just I really, really enjoyed like the longevity of it and then like the social component that came along with it as well. That's so cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:13

You host these events all across the country. Yes. What is a typical SOBAM fun event look like?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Good question. So, well, I there's also two parts to our business. So we do the events, that's like why I started it. We also do private lessons, which is just like for intimate groups that want to learn. But the events is like our bread and butter. That's what I focus on. And the way that they typically look is they're like a two-hour event. We're pretty selective about like the venues that we want to work with because we're building a brand and we want to work with people that like see longevity in our relationship, if that makes sense. Like they want this to become a monthly thing, they see the benefit in bringing in new customers, and they also kind of have a brand to themselves as well. But the event itself, it's two hours. We offer two ticket types usually. The first is like beginner lesson, and that's like a two-hour intro on the game. Like it's a crash course. You're gonna learn a lot in those two hours, enough to probably get through a game after that, but you probably need a few lessons before you like actually know. Yeah. And then the second is open play, which is just like giving a space to people to show up and play. Because the two hardest things like to actually playing the game are having enough people and then having the equipment. And I think in New York City too, like the space itself is so hard to find, especially people in their 20s. Like, I do not have a dining room table. Like, I don't have a table.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Like, let's all sit on the floor.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Yeah, there's truly no table in my apartment. That's true. Like, I would have to play on the couch and sit on the floor. So I think that that the open play specifically is like really popular in New York because space is such a problem here. And so, yeah, our events are two hours. Like, usually there's some food and drink, including the ticket. And the whole point of it is like just to be a lighthearted social way to connect with people in the community. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

I gotta say, good price point too. We were, I was looking at it. I thought it was going to be way more expensive for a sob am fun event.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

I think it's like such it's so cool that you're making it accessible to people and doing it in cool spaces. Like it's not like in a church basement. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's also it is an expensive, like the set itself is expensive. So if you want to get into it, like buying a ticket to come and like play with a set that already exists and like seeing if you learning how to do it, it's a great way to start before like totally investing in it. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

And one thing I'll say too on the sets themselves is like they range a lot in price. So I work with the Mahjong line, which is like probably a higher end one. Those are expensive, and I do recommend those for people who want to make the investment. But like Mahjong can be an accessible hobby. Like Amazon has sets that are probably$60. Oh, that's good. And I mean, your cards are$15 each, so it's probably an$100 investment in like the asset itself. Yeah. But someone once asked me about the ticket price in general. It's like, what how do you decide where to price it? Because personally, I think it is reasonable if you think about the food and drinks that are included in New York City. Order at a bar spending$20 on a drink. Exactly. If you see that as expensive, because some people might, it's like to me, the way that I view it is you're making an investment in yourself. You are investing in learning a skill that can build, like if you if the ROI on that every day of your life for the rest of your life, like that's nothing. And and so I do think that some people could view it as expensive, some might not, but it you're literally an investing in a skill.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

I think it's as you said, a night out in New York, it's gonna be way more expensive, especially with your girlfriends or something like that. Three drinks. Maybe two. Yeah, probably. So you mentioned the cards, and Emily and I admittedly are novices.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Yes, we're new to this. We have a guess. Have you guys taken any lesson? I forgot to ask. So we've talked about doing it, and then my sister's the one who was just like, Well, I did it.

SPEAKER_04 20:32

And I've tried to play on my phone. I tried to know how to do it. I think we need to go to a place first. So you have the tiles, everyone knows the tiles. And then every year there's a new card, and the 2026 card just came out.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

It did.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

Who creates the card? And explain what the concept of the card is.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Okay, the card is a bunch of combinations of tiles that are required to win the game. So just also like caveating that the card is unique to American Mahjong. So one thing I didn't point out is that Mahjong started in China, very prominent in the Chinese culture. That's like the origin of the game. It did leave China 100 or so years ago, and now there are 40 or more variations of the game. And the one that I play and teach is American Mahjong, and the card is unique to American Mahjong. And so the yeah, the people that come out with that card are the National Mahjong League, and they're based in Manhattan. And honestly, guys, if you look at their website, I tell everyone this. I'm like, so you go to this website to buy your card, you will think that you're gonna get a virus. Like this, this website was made before I was born, probably like twice my age ago.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

Basic HTML. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

I mean I don't, yes, I don't even know. And it is not, I mean, for the amount of people that are playing Mod online, I think they didn't know they're on the sorry, they're incredible um people. They they they run the game. But just so you know, if you go there, you that is it is it's a utility, but yeah. Um anyway, so the card changes every year. Um, the reason I think that they do that is first of all, a lot of it stays the same. So like everything you learn. If you're learning on the 2026 card, it's going to be relevant to the 2027, 2028, and so on. So like it only slightly changes. And the reason I think that they do it is because it allows everyone like a better starting off point. Like if you guys start tomorrow, you're never going to catch up with someone 30 who's been playing for 30 years if the card doesn't change. And so the card changing allows it to just be more fun for everyone.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Yeah. An update. I love that. Yeah. Do you have any tips for the 2026 card? Or like, are there tips that people get through this? I mean, I have tips, but honestly, like they're they're not going to immediately be entire. You're like, what the heck is a flower?

SPEAKER_02 22:36

Like, that's pretty. Um, but I think that the the best part of mahjong just in general is like once you make the one-time investment, you don't have to buy the card every year. Like, as long as you've all got the same year card, you can play a game. You don't necessarily have to get a new card every year. Yeah. It's just for people who play every day. Like, I think that it's just makes it more fun for it to change. I love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

There's something else about the American Mahjong that you start with a Charleston. Is that what it's called? Where you kind of pass along the tiles to everyone, and it's that's like the setup of the game. Yes. But it takes kind of a long time to do the setup of the game. That's like half the game.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Yeah. When you're still learning. But when you're when you're an experience, it's like it's like fast.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Laura's gotta.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Yeah, how long does it take? I mean, it feels like it's a long time to really master this.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Like a full oh, to master it?

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

I would say like you need to play like 10 times. Oh, that's not crazy. Yeah, I wouldn't say you're a master at that point, but I would say like you starting to feel comfortable. Like I tell people, three lessons is a good like starting point.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

I just, there's a lot of rules, and like the Charleston and the deal, it's like, why are you grabbing the first and the third tile? Why are you doing that to the right? Why are you doing that to the left? And it's just like muscle, you just have to get it in your memory because there's no reason to a lot of the things. Um, but a whole game start to finish, including the deal, the Charleston, it could be like 20 to 30 minutes. Oh. So like if I sit down with my sisters and mom and family and play for two hours, it's like we can play four or five games. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Oh my god, it's shorter than Monopoly or life. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

It's not as daunting as people think, just because there is like an exponential learning curve and it is slower at the beginning, but once you learn, like it's it's so much faster. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

So Sobam fun, you started, and now your sister is doing it with you. How has it been working with your sister?

SPEAKER_02 24:22

It's been so twin sister. My identical twin sister. Yeah. Yeah. So I she started working with me in August. And I mean, I credit her a lot to the ability to scale. I mean, every like founder, startup person, I work with founders all day too. They they're like, you're only when you're running a business by yourself, you can only scale as much as your capacity. And I work full time too. So it was like there was only so much I could do. And having her on board, like we just have we've had different career experiences. I think the things that we are our strengths are a little bit different. And having her on board has helped us scale just because she's able to help me a lot in like operational things that I can't really get into right now. But it's been really fun working with her because it's we've always had a dream of like building something together because we've both always wanted to start something. Yeah, and doing it together is just really like fulfilling because we get to celebrate our wins together. Yeah, yeah. So I've really enjoyed it. So we started working together in August and then I moved here in January. Now we live together too. So we do a lot. Yeah, and we haven't lived in the same place since high school because we went to different colleges and everything. So it's been all of a sudden we went from doing everything differently to like doing everything together. So, but yeah, it's been a lot of fun. I love working with her.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Who's the messier one in the apartment?

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Oh, that's a great uh I would say her because I work from home, so like I have to I have to kind of do her dishes and clean up her yeah, make sure the Zoom background. Yeah, because Larry, she threw her Tupperware from yesterday in the sink. I was like, oh no, no, I've got that one. I am not doing. You can put that in the dishwasher. So yeah, I'm I'm kind of like picking up after her, but yeah, happy to. So funny.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

So you talk about scaling. What do you see the next like year of Sobram Fun looking like?

SPEAKER_02 25:52

So we're really focused on our 11th city right now, which is Atlanta. Actually, 10th and 11th, Atlanta and Phoenix. Amazing.

SPEAKER_04 25:58

That is so crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

So we really want to like get our footprint there, but honestly, like this sounds crazy and everyone, it's like a buzzword, but I really, my next like two months, I really want to figure out how to utilize AI to do a lot of the stuff for us. Yeah. Um, I just think that like scaling is gonna be a lot easier if I enable all of these AI tools versus like taking hiring someone and then their capacity maxes out and having to hire someone else. Yeah, totally. And there's just a lot of repetitive tasks that we do that I know can be automated. And so that's like my next step is trying to do that.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

Where does this like business saviness and entrepreneurial bone come from?

SPEAKER_02 26:34

I you know it's so funny. I don't know. I feel this like there's a lot of backstory, but Hazy and I were born this way. Like since we were kids, like, and also I feel so funny like talking about this because it's like not that big of a company, but we've just always wanted to start something. Like when we were little, we did lemonade stands, snow cone stands. We would like make duct tape wallets and sell them to my older sister's friends at volleyball games. Um, we were just like always hustling. We got the badge for like selling the most Girl Scout cookies in our true.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Yeah, oh seriously, I was so proud of it. But we just got so much fulfillment from doing that kind of stuff. And I literally was going through my senior essays that I wrote for college a few weeks ago, and one of them was like, What do you want to be when you grow up? And it was all about how I want to be an entrepreneur and start my own thing. And I think it's just because I like to, I really like what I do full time, but I have just always had a dream of starting something because I enjoy solving problems. And I think whenever you start something, like you just always have to figure it out. You can't rely on anyone else. Like you gotta rely on yourself. So I don't know. I just think it I was born that way.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

Yeah, oh my God. How hard is it to find? I mean, so now if you're opening in Dallas or uh Atlanta, um you have to find people to teach these classes, or do you fly and do these classes?

SPEAKER_02 27:43

No, so we have like I don't even, I wish I knew the exact number, like 35 piece instructors or something. Do you interview them? Um no, and do you make them do a mahjong? No, so we they all have to have like know how to play the game. We usually find them through like our current instructors' friends, friends of friends, people we've taught how to play. Um, but we do like a full training for them and like give them all these materials and stuff, and then we always go to each city for the first event so they like can see how it's run. Yeah, yeah. And then like how we actually know the city is we just make them like create a list of places. They're like, these are the top 10 places you should target for our events, and that's kind of how we we do that.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

But you just an event with um Emma McTaggart of what what the switch who we've had on, who we adore, we love her so much.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Oh, she was on here? Yeah, oh my god, yeah. She was fabulous.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

Um she was early too, like one of our early ones, yeah. Um but we talked a little bit about the needlepoint community as a whole.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

Is there like a is there a mahjong community online and everything? And it's like, is there anything weird about it that you can think of? Like we talked about needlepoint snark and like how there's like this weird bullying community online of needlepointers, which I found fascinating.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure their community is similar to ours, and that because it it like older people have played for a long time and younger people, it's like people's seriousness about the game just ranges drastically. And there are people that are more social players that are more just more lenient, not about the rules, but like if someone makes a mistake, it's like it's not that serious. Like we'll just rewind, fix it, and go on. Yeah, and there are people who are more traditional players, which like to each their own, they really want to follow the rules. And so, like those two groups of players don't typically want to play together because they want to take it very seriously and they don't. But like talking like we would be. I know exactly who's saying but take like the the lore on mahjong is there's one big controversy, which is there's these things in the American Mahjong sets that are blanks, and the whole goal of them, the reason they're in the sets is like if you lose a tile, you can like write on it what it is and you can use it. But more like social players have created a role for them in the game, and it's like not a part of the traditional game. And it kind of evolving, yeah, and it's in it, so it's not like a traditional part, so it makes the game easier, and there's a lot of like the more traditional players that think that it's ruining the game and like that it's a horrible part. It's and there's a lot of dialogue, yeah, yeah, interesting. Blanks versus no blanks, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna those I don't know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

I'm going no blanks.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

I my opinion on it, I don't teach with blanks because I do think it changes the game, and I think it's important to learn without them because strategically, like it's just important to really understand how the game is fundamentally played.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

But I like to play with blanks. I don't like to teach it, but like I like to play with them. Once I feel like everyone understands the game, I think it's okay to introduce it. Yeah. I love that. I think that's fair. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

We'll be right back with your obsession, but what is one word you'd use to tease us?

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Uh comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

I can't wait to put my sweats on after. I know. We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

So you teased us with comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

What are you obsessed with?

SPEAKER_04 30:54

Tell us.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Gap jeans. Oh my god, gap!

unknown 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

The gap is having such a moment.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Guys, they're so good. Okay. Really? And my twin sister's actually the one that discovered them. And if I'm being totally honest, they're all her jeans, but I just wear them because we're the same size. So she made the investment and I'm just mooching, but she mooches off other things of mine, so it's fine. But like they're truly the most every time we wear them, first of all, like we get compliments from everyone. And then also they're just the most comfortable. Like, they're definitely not a hundred. I mean, maybe they are, but I doubt they're 100% denim. But because of that, they just are like they move better and they're so comfortable. Is there a specific style? No, I looked that up before this, yeah, and I do not remember the name. I have it on my phone, but I go back to check it out. We can like put it up here.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

You text us.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Yeah, it's like wide led like something.

SPEAKER_04 31:38

But wow, what's the price point?

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Like f 40, 50, 50, and there's and there's always on site sale. So like I could be saying the sale price because they are truly always on sale. There's always a like even if you don't think there is, run your little coupon scanner thing. There will be one. Honey.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

That's my coupon scanner. Capital one.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Do the capital one one.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

Zach Posen has reinvented that entire company from old navy to the gap.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

That's insane.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

He's killing it.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

Wait, did you all see that they had looks on the Met at the head? Yes. Kendall Jenner was wearing a gap by Zach. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:12

And then last year Anne Hathaway wore the white button down.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

The white button down. Oh, yeah, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:18

Zach Posen for Gap and then Davein Joy Randolph for Met Gala last year. He designed, it wasn't a gap look, but he designed. Oh my god, I'm obsessed.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

I'm kind of like wishing I'd invested in them like five years ago. Because it's true. They've had a total turnaround. Like I used to, my mom bought stuff for me that when I was a kid. Yes. Then it totally dropped off the face of the earth. Awful.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Well, I remember when the gap sweater was like so cool to have. And then it like disappeared.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Yeah, now then it wasn't a thing, and now it's just back.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

And their stuff is so good. They have very good staples. Their stuff is so comfortable. And it's a very good price point.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yes. They also have cute things that aren't staples, but like it's so affordable. They're like, great, I'll get this super for the summer. So true. Yeah. My sister, Laura, um finds really good things at Gap. I'm like, cute, where'd you get that? Thinking it's like reformation and it's gap.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

I love that. Yeah. No, I mean, all of those stores I think are having a moment. Like my one of my best friends from college work is one of our instructors, and she walked into a lesson. I was like, oh my God, you look so cute. Where's your outfit? Shoes were HM, jeans were Walmart, shirt was HM.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

I was like, okay, so that's an a hundred dollar outfit. Yeah, yeah. And you look adorable. Yeah. My obsession a few weeks ago was HM because the thing is with HM, though, you just have to go through. There's so much. It's like 20 pages. Yeah, it's like a few hours of work. It's true. Yeah. But when you find the right thing, it's good. Yeah. And it la it like lasts the season or something like that. Which is like you get the compliment. It's exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

We must have been connected today because as I was walking up from the subway, I'm wearing Abercrombie jeans and I was like, I love these jeans. I should talk about these jeans.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

It's so true. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

And like I have spent, I just bought these pair of jeans. I sent the photo to Emily. It's an Instagram ad. They were$200 something dollars. And I was like, these jeans are gonna be perfect. When I tell you, they make my waist look this big, and they're the widest pants ever. I look ridiculous. I look like a circus tent.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

But I think you should keep them.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

I already returned them. But I'm like, I just need to go that does it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I love them. They have 10 million different washes. Yeah. They're so comfortable. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

And like once you find the style you like, I mean, I think we have like, I'm wearing them right now, but I think you have we have like four different colors in them. Yes. Because they know they fit you well. And they like you might as well just.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

I'm gonna go back to the gap.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Yeah, you should try it out. Let me know. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

I have an old navy set, also Zach Posted. It's like it's blue and like has a little pinstripe on it. And it just looks so much more expensive. I saw him wearing it in a video, and I was like, oh, that must be so expensive. And it was old navy. Like$30 for the whole set.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

That's insane.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Insane.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Oh yeah. So what's under the umbrella of Gap? Atletta, Gap, Old Navy.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Banana?

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Banana Republic. Yes. And banana had a resurgence recently. Also, yeah, they all are. You know what else is with HM? Is Cos. They're all connected. Cos is so good. I've always been a fan of cost. Me too. Yeah. Those sizes are weird though. They're very, they're they run large.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

A bit more expensive. Yes. Higher price.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

We're in a new one. Yeah. Yeah, we've leveled up. Yeah. I love mango. Like I'm obsessed with mango.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

That is also like a bit higher end, I feel like, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Yeah, I think it's like it's like Zara. Yeah. But to me, everyone shops at Zara and not as much, at least in America. So it's not so Zara when you're wearing it. Yes, exactly. So I like go make.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

I love Zara There's always those Zara pieces that I like will everyone in my like extended circle will get. And I'm like, that we all know that's Zara. Yes. Like we all know that that is Zara. Yes. Something will hit.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Like it'd be like the song of the summer. It's like the drug song of the summer. It's always or like the shoe. Do you remember? I had like a pink florally dress. Yes. That was a Zara. If I showed you the picture, you'd be like, oh yeah, I found everybody in it. And I thought it was so cute, and then all of a sudden, everybody had it.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

It's like that smell, those smells that you get, and you're like, oh, this is bringing back memories. Like that's those those clothing items. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 36:08

What were your favorite mall stores growing up?

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Honestly, my gap. Gap. I'm not like I get my mom shopped at Gap all the time. And then the other hack that she had for us go was pay less. Do you know the shoes? Pay less, yeah. Because like we always buy one, get one free, and we were twins. So she would just go and buy one pair of shoes and then get the other free. Yeah. So that was a statement.

SPEAKER_04 36:28

Do you share a lot of clothes with your sister?

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Well, we just now we so we live together. Yeah, we did. It's actually a funny story. So my older sisters, I told y'all, are also identical twins. So we witnessed the horror of them having to separate their shared clothes going to college. So my sister and I made an investment early to always have separate clothes because we're like, we don't want to go through that. Like tears. I would hating it. I have such a vivid memory of them like literally like pulling a piece of a pair of pants because they both wanted it. And there was like a mediator being like, okay, it's Hattie's turn to pick. Um anyway, so we will share, but we still like own our own clothes.

SPEAKER_04 37:02

Why hasn't there ever been a sitcom about two sets of twins?

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Honestly, like, where was my family's reality show again all the time? I know. Well, we were filmed for a commercial once, and my sister and I were such bad children that they literally didn't air it because I think we were fighting the whole time. But you have to like when there's four girls that have big personalities, like you gotta fight for attention.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

Okay, so what was the commercial for?

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Um, you guys don't know it probably, but it's H E B. It's a Oh yes. Yeah, yeah. It's a grocery store. Yes, yeah, like the Texas. Yeah, it's like the Texas groceries. Yes, like wagments here. Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Good tortillas. Yes. Oh my god, I love a grocery store. That's like what I do when I go to different cities. It's like go check out. Well, if you go to Texas, you gotta go to HEB. I know I haven't been to Texas, and I have to go ever? Yeah, never. Well, just go to Austin.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

It's the only place you can find that's where I'm from.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

I'm biased, but you have so bam fun.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Yeah, and we have so bam fun events so you can go.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

But Austin's the best. What's a top restaurant, favorite restaurant in Austin?

SPEAKER_02 37:55

Mattel Rancho. Okay. Okay. Um well, actually, they have a wait list now, but it's it used to be walk-in only. It's like j it's giant. And they're so they're known for their text mechs and their margaritas. And they have this thing called a knockout martini that if you're having one, don't plan anything together. Oh my god, what's in it? You know, I don't know. And you don't want to know that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, their text mechs is just good. Like the vibe is really good. Yeah. Um, we grew up going there, and then in college we went a bunch too, because I went to UT. Um, and now we it's yeah, it's like our staple. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

Oh my god. How many um classes do you do in Austin now? Like, I mean, I'm like personally teach?

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Yeah. Not very often. I have three instructors there now that do it. Um, and I'll like maybe do it if I happen to be in town, but for the most part, when I'm traveling, especially like to Dallas to visit my boyfriend or home to visit my family, I like don't really want to work. Yeah, my like time off is usually whenever my boyfriend visits me here or I'm going home. So I try not to do any lessons when I'm those things happen.

SPEAKER_04 38:50

Yeah, does your boyfriend play mahjong? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

But he too, no, it's been so fun because his grandmother, all his cousins, like they all play too. So it's kind of become like a family thing for both of us.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Yeah, I know. My family played like cards. We play a lot of like my mom plays bridge, we played a lot of um spades. Yeah, my grandfather played it up.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Cribbage. That was a big I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Is that a card game?

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Yes, and like pegs. It's like there's a little board. I so many cribbage boards. Um but it's just that like collect.

SPEAKER_02 39:17

The coolest thing difference between like our families playing is mine, is I guess my grandmother's the longest it's played. She's hasn't even played 10 years. So we have all like the newer sets and stuff. Whereas when we go to his, it's like the set that we have, his it was his great-grandmothers, and like there's all of these. So they've lost a few tiles, so they're all like handwritten from his great-grandmother's handwriting, like replacing them. And they have like 2014 mahjong cards. So it's like a just a very different yeah, yeah, which is really cool.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Oh my god. I love that.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

Intergenerational bonding. We love it. I know. We're running out of time, but we want to do a lightning round on some hot topics. Simply tell us if you're obsessed or over it.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

They're hot topics. Okay. Get ready for it.

SPEAKER_04 39:55

Two, one.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Okay, back gammon. Over it. I've never played that. You're busy with hot time.

SPEAKER_04 40:00

Pin stripes.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Obsessed.

SPEAKER_04 40:02

Obsessed.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

Chardonnay. Over it.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Orange lighting.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

Over it. Ambient water. What's that? It's like a room temp.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Oh, over it.

SPEAKER_04 40:13

Mango sticky rice.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Over it. Bag charms. I like those. Obsessed.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Friend crushes.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Obsessed. Comfort rewatches of a TV show. Obsessed, my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

School's not teaching cursive.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Over it.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Isn't that amazing? I hate that.

SPEAKER_04 40:29

Isn't that a pause?

SPEAKER_02 40:30

I'm like very upset about that. Yes. I hate that. It's really sad.

SPEAKER_04 40:34

Yes. Did you also know you have to be 21 to buy cigarettes?

SPEAKER_02 40:38

What? Yes. Yeah. I mean, I guess I've never tried. I mean, I am over 21 anyway, but since when?

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Uh, I looked this up because I had a freak out about it when I found out.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

We all assumed it's 18.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

It was a few years ago. Yeah. It should be 18.

SPEAKER_04 40:52

What about vapes? 21?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Yeah. Because we're trying to get people to not vape. I mean, okay, I'm for it. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's all right. I guess obsessed. Okay, our final question. Ready?

SPEAKER_04 41:07

Three, two, one. Are you obsessed with us? I am obsessed with you guys. Clara, thank you so much for being here. Yes. Tell our listeners where they can find you and where they can find Sobam Fun.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

Um, Sobam Fun, Instagram. Sobam Fun.com is our website. Everything is Sobam Fun, so that's how you'll find us.

SPEAKER_04 41:23

I love it. It's so cute. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

Thanks guys.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Are you obsessed with us? Please like, comment, and subscribe.

SPEAKER_04 41:32

Bye.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Who are you texting 50 times a day?