Chamber Chat: Refined Beauty Part 2

What happens when someone who rarely makes time for self-care says “yes” to a facial?

In this episode of Chamber Chat, Kelly visits Refined Beauty, where owner Lindsay Simmons treats her to a relaxing facial while sharing practical skincare tips, common misconceptions, and simple ways to care for your skin at any age.

Lindsay and her business partner, Sam, have made a tremendous investment in Danville by creating a space dedicated to beauty, pampering, confidence, and self-care. Their passion for helping others look and feel their best shines through in everything they do.

Kelly steps outside her comfort zone to experience it firsthand, offering an honest perspective from someone who isn’t a skincare expert. By the end of the appointment, she leaves feeling refreshed, revived, relaxed, and amazed at how healthy and smooth her skin feels.

Whether you’re a skincare enthusiast or someone who has been putting yourself last, this episode is a fun reminder that investing in yourself is never wasted.

Be sure to like, subscribe, and support local by visiting Refined Beauty in downtown Danville.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Yeah, so Miss Kelly, um, again, I'm also this is a great time to eval. Um, I do notice some dehydration for sure. And you'll notice that in the redness right here in your cheeks. Do you notice that after you wash sometimes? Okay. And then I also, there's a few blemishes, if you don't mind, I can extract them. Um, a couple of them are actually little, um, they're like cloth, they're closed comodones, they're little white heads. Have you ever noticed those? They don't ever go away?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

I don't really know.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Haven't noticed. Okay. That's good then. Yay! See what's up with this. You're I and again, I I hope I don't point these things out, and then you go home and like, oh my gosh, I never knew that was there.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Yeah, but I tell people all the time, I'm a skincare professional. That's what I do. I'm supposed to improve your skin. Sorry, my posture's not the best either, Jocelyn.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

I'm just enjoying this so much. I watched this on TikTok and then I'm explaining what I really was like, oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Well, I try to I try to inform. My friends maybe think I'm too much of a cliff clavin for the younger crowd. That's a cheers reference. I was gonna say, I was gonna say, John probably does not include this. Nope, nope, nope. He came after Mayberry, um by way of Boston. But um, one of Woody Harrelson's first uh TV gigs. I think most of the youth know Woody Harrelson, thank you. Hunger Games, mm-hmm. He's maintained a great presence, I think, over time. Woody Harrelson is one of my favorites. All right, but I do, um, like before I did your derma plane, Kelly, and I told you how your skin felt really dry. Now I wish Jocelyn could come over here and feel this. Um, so she could tell the difference too. But um now it's almost as if your skin is it actually feels more hydrated now because we got we got air going to it, and your skin is opening up and it's like, oh, this is great all these years. I mean, you've been exfoliated before, but not like this.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Not at all like this. And like I can show Jocelyn. You remember how I was doing the hair before? Like now I'm getting that's dead skin that I'm getting off the surface of her face. Yeah. Isn't that awesome? I love Dharma painting. It's it's very satisfying for me too, because um, I can like see her skin just kind of brighten up naturally. You can almost even see it too. Like it's got a nice that's her, that's her. I've got the oil and everything off. That's just her skin. Isn't it pretty? You know, it's very satisfying. Which is why I do what I do. And I I want, I'm glad that we can bring this to Danville in Hendricks County. Okay, so I got that little whitehead out. It was probably, it's probably been there, Kelly, for 10 years and you didn't even realize it. Mm-hmm. They just, it's a buildup of it's like these little whiteheads get trapped under the skin, and um and over time it just it can't get out, so it creates these little white pimples. Um, and I see them more often in um like more mature skin, um, because we've got so much more buildup on our faces. But you got one more right there that I'll get off, and you'll also know that will go away before we leave the treatment room, too, by the way. Which is another amazing thing. Well, I'm using a lancet, and it creates a little little hole on top of that white head, and as the and you can tell the fluid coming out is now clear, so it's it's cleared of all that inflect infection that's just been buried in her skin. And Kelly has skin like mine. Um, so we have very like, are you you probably have a pretty high tolerance for pain, don't you, Kelly? Yeah, yeah, likewise. We have tough skin, and that isn't like that's a legit thing. Um, and so that's another reason our skin is a little thicker, why we get these um little white heads um stuck underneath the skin. Because we have thicker, our barriers are a little thicker than most. Do you have a lot of men that come in? Um, not for I get more, he's being a little stubborn on me. I get more uh young men, like youth teenagers, than I do men. We get more, we've got a few men that come in for some back treatments. Sorry, okay. As well as some waxing.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

But we don't do any anything below the waist for those that might watch that part.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

There is a creeper that calls us and asks for uh manzillions. Oh, really? Yes, he's a regular caller. My goodness, he's really liking this cheekbone, but there's not an extraction that I haven't been able to get.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

So she's gonna get it.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

I'm uh, yeah, I'm a I had a client once that was like, you didn't do enough extractions on me. And like, I will only extract if needed. I don't want to damage the skin, right? That's why I also don't encourage people to extract their own blemishes because you can really damage your skin. Well, when I was in beauty college, my teacher didn't even teach us how to do extractions, she was fundamentally against them because of how much damage you can do to the skin. Um and he's almost out. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

What did you do about it?

SPEAKER_00 6:46

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Like a button, like a pin for the phone.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

So if I do, if I do have somebody that's I'm a picker, that's part of my problem, right? So what I say, first of all, don't pick. But if you have to pick, don't say not as I do, then make sure your hands are clean. Yeah, and there is a tick technique that I've shown people, and it's the basic technique that I learned, and this is a toner now. This is a cranberry toner that is absolutely wonderful. It's hydrating and calming to the skin. But for you, Miss Kelly, it might also tingle a little bit because your skin has been exfoliated, and it's this has that cranberry in it, which might have a little acidic feel to it on bare skin, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Just feels fresh.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Oh, good, good, good, good, good. Look at that. Fresh. Right? She's so fresh. Fresh. Exciting. Yeah, Lindsay does a lot of singing as well. I like to sing and I like music. Um, but yeah, we don't get, I guess our male clientele, we could really pick up a little bit more from a skincare standpoint. Now, from hair, um, Layla is amazing with men cuts. She specializes in men's cuts. Okay. Um, in fact, when we just not long ago, there was an estate sale just down the street, just north of us, at the old Royal Title building.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

And um they had this old barber, like this old, you know, the barber little like red and white things. And it's just an outdoor decor thing, but they had it sitting there, and we were like, go get that for Layla. So we did, and she sold it to us for like 40 bucks. Oh, yeah. We haven't hung it up yet, but um, yeah, but she does, she loves men's cuts, she does a great job with them. Um, so yeah, from that standpoint, she's starting to really pick up some really nice business from our male clientele. But we would like to pick that up a little bit more because men don't take care of their faces. One nice thing that men do for most part uh is shaving.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

And what's important about the shaving is that exfoliation, you're constantly turning over the skin and renewing that cycle. So that's why men tend to not show signs of aging as fast as women because they've been exfoliating through shaving all of their life, which is even at home, another like so. If you have time for some health home care, um, I also encourage people to throw an exfoliation in there, you know, twice a week into your nighttime routine just to again keep that surface clear, that skin open. Um, this is also really nice, too, to explain what I'm doing, Jocelyn. Um, see all the little white, little white balls of stuff? That's actually Kelly's skin. Um, this is an enzyme peel, and so all the little bits of that skin that I couldn't get off with the dermaplane blade. This is getting those little skin cells that just barely came up, and now it's her skin's gonna be completely um exfoliated, and you can already see the glow, yeah, especially on her cheekbones, and that redness on her cheeks, um, that's mainly just the circulation that I've brought to the surface. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

I don't know, but this feels amazing.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

We just need to treat Miss Jocelyn too.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

This is poor.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

You absolutely should. I know. It's great. It's good, especially we've got some other like um, so these two modalities here. We've got um the hydrofacial, which just to I don't like to toot my horn, but I will. I'm Indiana's only master certified hydrofacialist.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

Oh, that's very cool.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

Right here in your and they no longer offer that program. I was like the last class, last group to be certified. And my little ward's right there. Um, but yes, so hydrofacial is wonderful. It is based in H2O, so that's why it has the funny little noise that goes with it. But what's really nice is the hand piece is the patented technology, and think of it like a tornado, and tornadoes suck things off the ground and they push things back down into the ground, right? Well, this um hand piece does the same thing along with some of the tips that we use throughout the treatment. But um there's a booster that was developed in connection or in conjunction with J Lo, and we call that our red carpet facial because she really did a great job developing it to where it just your skin just glows. Just it's a really good if you've got a special occasion, um, you know, for proms or weddings, it's it's a really nice, nice treatment just to give that skin an even bigger boost of glow. Um, it also helps to even out the skin tone as well. Um, but yeah, Hydrofacial has a lot of really nice um customized boosters that you can do. Um, and then the glow two is actually based off of O2. Glow O2. Um, and so um there's a uh radio frequency modality with it, there's ultrasonic technology with it. Um, but it really both of these treatments, like I can see like improvement with wrinkles, with lifting, with overall tone right here in the moment. Uh hydrofacial, um, the ingredients are encapsulated, so they actually break down in the skin over time. So, like two weeks from your treatment, your skin actually looks better. So, yeah, it's really, it's really good. Um, and so yeah, we have both of those, um, which I think I know well sharper plastic surgery, of course, has everything. It's like my candy store. Um, but um the only other glow to they have one at Rebel Wax as well. So we don't have a whole lot of competition from that standpoint, but um, okay, Miss Kelly, how do you feel? How's your feeling? Okay. So, like I said, I think we're gonna do some hydration on you today. Okay. Um, and then my another nice little feature that I have, um, and this is a Lindsay Touch by way of one of my childhood friends, um, who's a um, she is an acupuncturist in um New York City. Oh wow. And she started utilizing this crystal mask, and it's just it's wonderful. It's a really nice, relaxing treatment. I think there's a lot of power in crystals, um, and they come from the earth, and they hold a lot of energy that I think is very good to connect with the energy that our bodies um emit anyway, naturally. So that's another little like holistic, natural, you know, kind of skincare that we like to incorporate here. So that's my plan. Any concerns? No, awesome, it's fun. Um, yes, this is actually a new mask that Arcana just released this year as well. Um, it's calming for the skin. Um, it also is super hydrating, and that's what we need. Um but it's got a mix of rose and crystals. Um, so it has a very light fragrance to it. But it will also help to intensify your glow to your skin as well. Jocelyn, if you were to change anything about your skin, what would you do? What don't you like about your skin?

SPEAKER_01 15:24

You do? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Okay. Yeah. Are you still in your twenties? Yeah, that's why. You still have your youthful skin. Um, but it is stopping your um are you this is a weird question, but I study faces and I study ethnic um things that um play a factor in our skin as well. Are you like, are you English, Welsh, Irish? Do you know what your ethnic is?

SPEAKER_01 16:08

That's probably a bad thing that I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

No, that's not a bad thing. It just gives you awareness. It just gives you awareness. But so I am Welsh, English, German, and so very white. Very white. And unfortunately, our skin, my skin, anybody that has similar skin, we start dehydrating a lot sooner than other ethnic type of skin. Uh, they have more melanin in their skin, more it's just um elastin, they produce more elastin, so um they maintain that tightness a lot longer than white Caucasian skin does. So now honestly, is the time to invest in a good hyaluronic acid for you. But if you have some concerns with acne, I would probably go a different route with you then. Um, but still, it's time now, in at your age, even now, to invest in a good serum. Yep, because then you can kind of catch that um that depletion naturally and hopefully reverse it and soften, soften the aging process and extend it a little bit longer for yourself. Unlike what I got to do, because nobody, I mean, even though my aunt owned a beauty college when I was growing up, it wasn't really like skincare for us, just wasn't a big wasn't a big thing. Um, I mean, it was noxema, right, Kelly?

SPEAKER_02 17:34

I grew up with Mary Kay.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Mary Kay? My grandmother was like, it was Mary Kay, yes. It was Mary Kay, it was Avon, it was, yes, it wasn't, you know, we just didn't have the world of skincare, the trillion-dollar industry that we have now. Um, back then. We just didn't know a lot. Well, shoot, we didn't know a lot about girls in general. Um, we have, yes, poor females. Um, we have been neglected far too long. I've got a really big soapbox for that one. We won't go there. We will not go there. Okay, so again, I ask about claustrophobia because some people, my mom, one of them, don't like hot towels. She feels like she can't breathe, and this room kind of feels claustrophobic for her. Um, this mask that I'm gonna put on you, some people don't. I mean, I love it. I love the weight of it, I love the feel. Um, but if you get uncomfortable at all, just let me know.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Okay. I can adjust. I'm completely relaxed at this point. So I'm like, whatever. Well, bring it on.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

I like to I like to do this before I do your neck massage because um now, not all of our facials incorporate a mass. Oops. Those are now toxic. Um, I don't do some of our massages don't incorporate massage. Um hydrofacial, there's really not much massage in that treatment. Um, I will throw in some level of massage just for relaxing, but overall not so much. Um, but the glow too, um, it also has the metatic um massage in it, which is really nice. And this will be great for the video. And this also just helps to keep that skin and the mask kind of locked in so it can seep into your skin.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

It just feels like a weighted blanket. It is a cool, it's cool. I like it. It is.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Well, you've heard of cryofacials, it's similar. Um, but yeah, this is just um helping the skin absorb and also giving you some. I feel like the weight of the mask is calming. And then you've got the power of the crystals. There's jade, there's amethyst. Um very calming, calming energy. Because, like I said, there's wrenches everywhere. And women, we like to hold our tension in our shoulders and in our hips. So, something that you could also do at home, Kelly, um, for self. Do you do any yoga? Meditation? No, even doing like a child's pose or a hip opener at home just alleviates some of that stress and tension. A lot of our stress and tension is in our hips and are no waist, especially our hips for women. Yes. Um, child's pose is a good opener. Um but and then just even um laying on your back and having your legs in a diamond position, even in bed, that's a nice opener. Which I should practice what I preach, but I don't take the time to. It's part of my problem. Taking the time. But you could, yeah, if if I ever have my dream come true, I would have some yoga in here, too. Yes, I miss that we don't have that studio.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

I started there right before they closed.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Oh man. Well, I'll give some more props to some of our Pilates instructors in our community. We've got two one right here in our Danville community, Miss Tiffany O'Brien. She teaches at the DAC and then also has reformers in her home. And she lives really close to the school. And then um Carrie Brown, she has her own yoga studio or Pilates studio in um Little Clayton there, right? That antique mall, where that little antique mall is. Um, she's on the is it the northwest corner of that building? She's right on the corner. But she's a Danville grad as well. Her mom used to own the locker room. Miss Joan Miller. I didn't realize that she did that. She just recently opened that. So also Hendricks County. But yes, um, Tiffany, um she uh she's Bassie certified, which is like it's a little different for yoga, right? Um but it's like the governing body for Pilates, and she goes out to California to do continued ed. Um, and she's actually out there this weekend for her continued ed. And she's right here in Danville. I think she also teaches in Brownsburg, but she does teach at the DAC on Mondays, I believe. So Pilates is good. Um it's uh I feel like it's more well it's interesting, you breathe differently, like in yoga, you're supposed to inhale as you like open up, and it's different in Pilates. You've got some knots back here, my dear. She does. Like, I'm like trying to get get most I think I got some of them worked out, but not we'd love to have a massage therapist. We have been we have been marketing or like looking for a massage therapist act actively, but the problem the state of Indiana has different regulations, they can practice out of their home. So finding somebody to come into a retail space when they can just be at their house is a lot different. Kelly, do you hydrate after your showers? Yes. Good girl. That's the other thing you need to do. A lot of people don't moisturize their whole body after their shower. So, especially in the sun, right? When we're out in the sun, it's depleting your skin. But yeah, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. What are you and a lot of people think that, but if you find the right lotion that's supposed to be used on acne-prone skin, it's going to treat your acne and hydrate if it's the right one. What are you using? Oh, I don't know that one.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

And you like it. That's that's if it's doing what you want it to do and you like it, that's what's important. Do you feel like what because also it takes your skin about three weeks to adjust to stuff too? And if you're not using it consistently, you're not ever gonna give your skin a chance to adjust. And a lot of people fall into that category. Um is so are you it feels greasy when you're when you use it?

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Not when I use it, though. I just feel like it gets so oily over time. Like I wake up in the morning after night, and I just like oil nuts and I work out.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Do you use blotting papers?

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I use um pad. Like oil water.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Yeah. No, you could even use a tissue, like a Kleenex, just throughout the day when you feel like you've got too much shine. Um, and that's totally normal. Yeah, totally normal. I could clear one of those or fill up one of those oil pads with like just my forehead when I was your age. Um, but definitely not like that. It will it will unfortunately not be like that forever. But do you notice your breakout usually on your chin zone? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hormones. Yeah, it's all hormonal. It is, it is all hormonal. Oh good. Right. But you did also say that you're you you just started using that stuff six months ago. Yeah, the face wash. Yeah, okay. So that's so it must be working then for you. Good. I think so. So then you could come get a treatment, and we could do a clarifier or this clarifier, and just so that's where I say, like, you're already doing something at home, you're getting good results. You come and get a treatment like every quarter or every you know, six weeks, yeah, and you're basically just enhancing or intensifying what you're getting the results at home. So that's why you add facial treatments and other things to your at home because um it just yeah, it helps speed things up and intensifies it. Um, you're gonna get a better clean in here than you will at home. Um, and then there's like I said, there's other things I can do, and you're probably from an extraction standpoint too, um, the hydrofacial extractions, money. Like um, when I'm doing a teen facial, sometimes I won't even use the extractor. I'll put them on this hydrofacial because it sucks everything out of your skin, puts it all into a gunk tank. It's amazing. I've had people that have the most beautiful skin on the planet. I'll extract them with the hydrofacial, and their gunk tank is so thick with sebum, and you wouldn't even realize because their skin looks so perfect. How could you create all that gunk? It's also a very satisfying treatment. But yeah, we would just get your would we'd get you on the hydrofacial and get everything sucked out of your skin and give your skin a chance to breathe on its own and heal itself. So I'm also doing some massages here on pressure points, so which are also in line with your lymphatic system. So when you engage in your lymphatic system, not only are you create are creating some hyaluronic acid, but it's also speeding up that cleansing process. Your lymphatic is like a filter for your blood, and um you have pools in your body that those lymphatic channels empty out into, and as you massage those, you kind of speed up that um cleansing filtration process. Lymphatic massage is very powerful as well.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

How's Miss Kelly feeling?

SPEAKER_02 29:51

I so relaxed.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

It is it is a good treatment.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

So, how many different types of facials do you offer then?

SPEAKER_00 30:08

So I tried to simplify our menu because a lot of our clients will call and be like, or when they were booking, they're like, I didn't know what what facial to sign up for.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

I didn't know I would have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Yeah. So that's why I, you know, I start out. My menu is not exactly how I want it, but I start out with just your Refined Beauty facial, which is a very powerful facial, but it's your traditional facial. Um, but within that facial, I can add things too. So within the Refined Beauty, I can do a lifting facial, which helps to lift the skin. It's actually quite painful. It uses these enzymes that, um, and they're all natural enzymes, but it it can be a little intense. Um, and there is a reason there's pain and beauty, right? Um, sometimes you don't leave here with a glow. Sometimes it looks like you've been used as a punching bag. But um, so yeah, there's a lifting treatment, there's acne treatments, there's um um for hyperpigmentation, we've got some brightening treatments. So, like Kelly, you and I, we are susceptible to these our freckles, right? So you can have a treatment that just lightens those freckles, lightens that hyperpigmentation to give you a more even uh appearance in your skin. Um so yeah, and then so those are our refined beauties. I think I got most everything on that in the for those protocols, and then we've got our hydrofacial and our glow too. And so with each of those facials, um, we could pretty much address the same indications, your you know, hyperpigmentation, uh loss of elasticity, so firmness, um, clarifying if you've got breakouts, um, calming for some of our clients that have like rosacea or more sensitive prone skin. Um let's see, you could have somebody that has just a lackluster to their skin, almost like a grayish tone to their skin. Um, there's a treatment that helps energize the skin and reverse that dullness and lackluster. Um and then, yeah, so there's several, I guess you could say we have three main facials, but within each of those categories, we have a number of um conditions that we can address. It just depends on the person and their skin because your skin can change over time. Um, your skin can change if you're on treatment for, you know, let's say you're having a cancer treatment or something, your skin can be impacted by that. If you're pregnant, your skin can be impacted early on in your pregnancy as your hormones are changing. Um, and we also have protocols specifically for pregnant skin. Um, there's no retinols in it, there's no or not only pregnancy, but also breastfeeding moms. There's no uh any retinals or anything like that in those treatments that could be harmful to the baby. Um, so yeah, I guess overall we we have several facials, but mainly just the three foundational ones that we build off of based on that person's skin. Yeah, it just everybody's different. And I I'm glad we have protocols that help um give us at least the guideline to follow and like recommendations for like what mask they would choose for this certain you know skin condition. Um, but they also give you the freedom to step outside that protocol to be able to customize it for Kelly's skin or Jocelyn's skin or mine because everybody's everybody's different, thank goodness.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Is it better for people to book a consultation to come in and just do a consultation before they figure out what they're gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 34:08

Yeah, um, and we do have that on our menu. You can book a consultation. The problem that I always find or what I hear most um from that standpoint is the time.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Um, a lot of people don't have the time to do the console, and it's only 20 minutes, it's free. Um, highly recommend it. But if it's a new client, I'm always gonna do your uh skin consultation at first. So, but a lot of people we will incorporate that into that first initial appointment. Um, but it does. I love to because I don't know your skin, I don't know what your goals are, I don't know what your concerns are. Um sometimes it's in those questions that you can learn, even for yourself, you didn't even realize that um, you know, you need to add to your skincare at home. Or um, it also gives me the opportunity in those consultations, what are you doing at home? Some people are I had someone, you know, I one of my favorite clients, she came in with like two bags full of products. And I was just like, you have time for all that?

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Use all those products. Um, so in some cases, it's you're using too much, and I can help you just even target what you really should be using at home, and that that can come out in the consultation. So um I would prefer to do a consultation up front, but usually what I hear mostly is I just didn't have the time for it. Um, so that's why I always will pin extra time into their first appointment so we can do that up front. Um, and I usually will always before any treatment, whether you're established or new, um it's what's changed in your skin, and is there anything that we need to address specifically? Because you see your skin more than I do, right? Um, you're gonna be in front of the mirror more than I am. Um, but I also like if I put you on a specific protocol, then you've got to follow that. You gotta do that at home, otherwise, we again you're I'm wasting your time. And I don't, time for me is very important because you don't know how much we get, right? We're not guaranteed time. So, and this it's not cheap, you know. Skin care, um, that was one of the things that we found with Bill and Tracy. It's different than managing a restaurant. Um, there's a a lot of upfront cost and it's very expensive, and it's an investment for you. If you're investing in this, then you treat it as such, right? So, and I I just I respect people that take the time to do that and trust me with their skin. Oh my goodness. I've got um a good family friend who's a dermatologist in Iowa, and I remember when I was first starting this, my mom was like, What's your number one concern about aestheticians? And she's like, I really don't like estheticians. Yeah, I really don't like estheticians because most of them aren't as knowledgeable as they should be when they're doing stuff on people's skin. And they can really cause a lot of harms to harm to somebody's skin if they don't know what they're doing. Um, so yeah, I think and then the state of Indiana, I think like maybe 10 or 15 years ago, eliminated. We used to have to every four years get continued ed, like 40 hours of continued ed. They eliminated that for some reason. Don't know why. But I like to keep learning. Um I think this industry changes so quickly that we have to kind of be on our toes to keep up with it and be and stay current. Kelly, how's your skin feel?

SPEAKER_02 37:51

It feels great.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Do you notice a difference in her skin color? Yes. Doesn't that look so pretty? It looks so good, it's all nice and calm and even. You do have I have that little red spot there, Kelly. So sorry. But it should go down before you go to bed tonight. That's where I got that little was that little closed comodone that was um just built up keratin uh and sebum. But we got that out. Um, but it is red. I'm sorry that did not go down.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Um, this next serum that I'm gonna put on you is a booster defense serum, so it's gonna help restore that barrier and lock everything in that we just put into your skin. And it's a got a lot of vitamins in it. It might tingle just slightly, just ever so slightly, or it may not. I don't ever feel the tingle with this, but um more thin skin, more sensitive skin clients might I don't feel the tingle. Okay, great. Excellent. I don't either when I use this. Actually, Sammy, we really don't get to do much treatment on one another. It's been nice training for the body waxing because it's like, oh, you need a leg. Let's go, you know. So that's been nice, but we really a lot of people think, oh, you guys must do treatments on each other all the time, but we really don't. Um, another one I just noticed too that I didn't um talk about is um another really nice treatment for acne or scarring or just um it can help plump the skin, and that's nano needling, which is also a customized treatment to where you create these little micro channels in the skin right before you put a mask or some serums into the skin, or like the boosters. Um, we also offer that too. That's our little skin style of it.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

So when you say nano needling, that just makes my skin crawl. Like you like it, boating booking needles in.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

It's not microneedling. There's also microneedle. I can't go as deep as a microneedle, but it is essentially creating little tea tiny channels in the skin so I can get serum even deeper into the skin layers.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Yep, essentially that's it. It's these little needles, um, and it's on this cartridge that punches into the skin and drives those little needles in there, and it also is a great, great treatment. So I've got a couple clients that had um childhood acne, and they've got some really significant scarring that makes the texture of your skin really rough. And so I've been using the nano on her, she's probably two treatments in now, and already it's almost gone. It's really smoothed out the skin, and um it's kind of like a controlled damage. So when you it's no different than a sunburn. If you've got an injury to the skin, what's the body gonna do? The immune system's gonna come in and feed it with all these white blood cells and all this wonderfulness. Same thing when you create a controlled injury or a burn to the skin, the body's gonna respond to heal it, it's gonna respond faster. So that's kind of why you do those things in this setting, so you can have that response from the body. Again, the body is very powerful. It is the it is, yeah, it does so much, and we're just figuring that out. Sorry, my pump stopped working on me. And I still I can't get the product out of here until unless I use my little spatula. So, yes, we are about done with your treatment, Miss Kelly. Do you have any other questions for me?

SPEAKER_02 41:52

So, how long, like how long is your wait list to get in?

SPEAKER_00 41:56

So I can usually um Sammy does both roles. She wears not just the um cosmetology hat and the piercing hat and the tattooing hat, but she also does skincare. Um, her book's pretty, it's hard to get into Sammy. Um, I work in the evenings as well as on Saturdays. Um, I'm probably about two weeks out. So it takes about two weeks to get in. Um, but we're also very flexible. Okay. We are here to, I've got some clients that can't come in other than on a Monday or a Friday. So we try to, again, I'm here to bring these services and this wonderful treatment to our beautiful, lovely little town of Danville. And so if I can help accommodate outside of those core hours, I will do so. But yeah, it takes about two weeks.

unknown 42:50

What's the best way to like look at? Is it call you? Is it come in? Is it online?

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Online is probably the easiest or calling, but I would say online would be my first option, but you can definitely call because Sammy will answer the phone no matter what time of day it is. She took that phone with her on vacation, and I'm like, why did you do that when you were on vacation? So um, but yes, she will pretty much answer the phone anytime it rings. All right, so I've got a chamomile balm on you right now, along with a oil that I mixed in with it that's got E and C in it, vitamins, vitamin C for brightening. Um, even though we have a beautiful glowing summer glow on our skin, it can still look dull, right? So you want to brighten that the suntan, right? 'Tis the season. And then of course we're gonna wrap up. Are you have any issues with um zinc or okay, any SPF chemical issues?

SPEAKER_02 43:58

Nope.

unknown 43:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

So I want to thank Lindsay and her staff for having us in today. We had so much fun. It was um an absolute delight. My skin feels so good. This is um something I will be adding to my self care. So thank you all for tuning in. Go see Lindsay um and Sam on the square, downtown Danville.