12. SURVIVING SUMMER: KINDERGARTEN GRADUATION, POOL CHAOS, & MOM HACKS

School is officially out, and the summer chaos has already begun! In this episode, we are ditching the real estate talk to recap the emotional rollercoaster of our kids' joint kindergarten graduation. From crying ugly tears in the audience to the pure comedy of a child confidently belting out songs completely off-beat.

But with summer break here, real survival mode kicks in. We get honest about our own deep phone addictions and discuss how to manage summer screen time when we are constantly on our own devices. Plus, we break down a total backyard disaster involving green pool algae, a ruined cardigan, and why one of us was "Donald Duckin' " in the yard just to shock the pool. From starting a brand new violin hobby at 37 to plotting tactical childcare escapes to the IKEA kids' zone, this episode is a giant group text with your virtual besties. Pop us in your ears while you do the dishes and join the community!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Realty Check, the podcast about the real lives of agents, lenders, and moms who do it all. We're here for the honest conversations behind the business, the family, and everything in between.

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Let's get into it. I want to be four. I want to have fits about things. Oh my god, that would be so lovely.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Wait, I should get my feet out of the shot though. We're gonna have to put this behind a paywall if my feet are in the shot.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

You know, actually I got in trouble for that recently. Wait, what? Okay, so I was at Jiu Jitsu and uh I went to an all-women's class in in another city. Okay. So we like did a road trip there, a few of us, and we got there, and there was a gal there, and she was tan like me, and we had the same color toenails, and I was like, We're feed twins! And I took a picture and I posted them in my story. Okay. And my friends are like, You posted these for free? But you know what? If I am gonna be on Wikifeet, oh my god, I want them to be pictures that I chose.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

I just went down. I I I I get the most random things on my TikTok. But uh, one of the recent videos that showed up on my TikTok was like, if you're gonna monetize feet pictures, make sure that you follow these three steps. And I was like, wow, this is informative. I also think that's TikTok telling you you have good feet. I you know I don't. You know that I have a deformed toe on my right foot. It's good feet. Now cannot show to YouTube. They're good feet. They just have to know. They're good feet. I have my fourth toe on my right foot is dwarfed. It the um the growth, it's called Brax Braxymetarsia, I think is the official term. I don't know. I'm probably butchering that. But the fourth toe, the growth plate, closed early, and so it's a baby toe, and it just stopped growing while the rest of my feet grew. Well, as someone who has seen them dogs, I think they're cute.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

And okay, you could sell them.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

You could absolutely sell them feet. Maybe I could get extra money. That's what I'm saying. You could get extra money.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Why am I in real estate? I just need to start going on feed our ends. We messed up. Hi, you guys. What's up?

SPEAKER_01 2:16

So, what we have decided, for better or worse, is that for the time being, we we just love chatting and like giving you insight into our lives. I mean, with real estate dabbled in, but we kind of like these episodes better than the more informative educational ones. And so we're gonna prioritize these ones over. And well, you know, I mean, obviously, we'll take your feedback if you prefer learning the nitty-gritty of real estate. We'll go back to that. But I feel like this is more fun, just like I feel like life right now lacks community. Yes. And so this podcast is an outlet for us to share community with you and to be more connected to you. And also if you really like us and need help with real estate, then at least you know our personality, you know what you're getting.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

100%. And and you know, here's the thing um I don't know about you all, but I'm someone who likes to talk to people constantly. And for better or for worse, my friends are not always available to yap on the phone with me. So what I do is I listen to podcasts and it creates like this pseudo friendship of mine that I like listen to. So I'm happy to be your pseudo-friend until we become real friends. So pop us in your ears, listen to us while you do the dishes or clean your pool.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Also, I am surprised with the level of um views that we're getting. I mean, look, we're not getting hundreds of views per episode, but even seeing 12 people on YouTube and 15 on the podcast, like 30, 30 of you, that that fills a whole classroom. There's a classroom of you that want to like listen to us gab. That's amazing. I love it. And it's only gonna grow. Yeah. Hopefully, you know, find our people. And we've been doing this not even for six months yet. No. Almost, but not yet. Close. Yeah. It's exciting. I mean, this episode, well, I guess maybe we'll our 12th, is this our 12th episode? This is our 12th, 1314, with our two interviews. So Yeah, we're not, and we're not even we're not even six months in. Not even six months in. I think we're doing really good. I'm stoked.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Me too. Uh, one of my favorite podcasts, um, and that's why we drink, shout out.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

That's the name of the podcast. Because if you remember last time she named that podcast, I was like, that's why we drink what? What do you mean that's why we drink? That's the whole name. The whole name is and that's why we drink. That's why we drink. That's the name of the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

They I've been listening to them since day one, like not day one. I've been listening to them since like eight, nine months into them starting their podcast. Okay. But a few years in, they like were like, yeah, our first few episodes, uh, we were making up our own listeners and our own listeners' requests, and there was like just me, our parents, and our like close friends listening. And like, that's this. This is you are in the ground level.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Ground level of this podcast. Thank you for being here. Wow. Look at you.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Gold stars, gold stars.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Each and every one of you. Oh man, so today. Yeah. Well, was it was a special day for us. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

It's our baby's last school. Oh my gosh. And they are so excited. Yes, and yesterday was an even more special day for your little boy. Yeah, we had graduation, kindergrad, and I have to admit, like, I'm not, like, I don't, I get emotional, but I don't like it that. Like, I I'm like, okay, yeah, we're gonna do this kindergrad, like it's fine. Like, I when did they start doing graduations for kinders? I don't know, but you know, it's special to them, and so I'll go and you know, told my husband husband, like, go into work late, come to the graduation. It'll mean a lot to him, even though like I feel like it's stupid, like whatever. Get there, sitting down. I'm still like, this is wild that we're doing this for six-year-olds, like it doesn't, you know, whatever. And then they start pouring out, like they start walking up on stage, and I lost it. I completely lost it because of how proud the kids looked. It was like that's what did it. It wasn't like the fact that it was a graduation, it was that that they looked so proud, and I was so proud of them. And um, yeah, so it was a fun day, emotional, a little bit. You know, I was able to reel it in after, you know, the ceremony, but for that particular moment, I was like, oh my God, look at him and the smile on his face.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

He had a big Muppet smile on his face. I'm a Muppet smile, too.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

It was the cutest thing. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So our our kids are in the same class. Yes. And so um, it was really cool to like get to experience that as my kid participating and singing, but also getting to watch you and be a part of and sitting next to you and your family, and like, you know, seeing your husband like get all happy and wave, and they did hearts to each other.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Well, and then your kid, star of the show for the first song, he belted that song off beat. He was ahead of the whole class. He was also in front of one of the mics, and so he you could he was the one that you heard singing the song, and it was hysterical. It was so it was so funny. Michael was covering his mouth to like not because he didn't want to embarrass, you know, your son to be like, you know, you're so funny, but he just like he thought it was so funny. He was covering his mouth so that his laugh was covered, and it was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Whereas I was just falling, so uh he could see me, and unfortunately, tears are just running down my face, and I'm trying my best to smile, and I'm like recording, but like it was just so cute and so cute. The fact that my child has so much confidence, I mean, exudes confidence. Oh, yeah. Like, I I feel really honored to get to watch it all like unfold and just to be there at all these moments. I mean, we work in an industry that allows us to attend these things, yes, you know. Yes. Um and I was classroom parent, so I was also helping run graduation. So yeah, it was a stressful day for you. Thank you. I was like, Thank you so much for putting up. Making sure tables were up. I was like, where's this? Where's that? This doesn't need to be there.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

And make sure you're not classroom parent next year. Or you're already you're already I don't know. Okay. I I know. Well, okay, at least don't be in charge of like graduation next year. You need to be able to soak it in for when yours graduates. Next year I won't be in charge of graduation. I I did not go last year when my child was TK, because again, this this is so stupid. Why are they doing this for the kinders? And I was like, you know, I don't need to see I don't have a kinder, so I don't need to go. Uh but then I went this year and I was like, oh, dang it. I have to go the next two years. Because next year I gotta go for your kid. And then the year after that, my second will be. Wait, she's two years away from being a kindergraduate. I know. It's it's just all kind of wild.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

It's so wild. Can I just say something though? My child loves Amanda, and my child comes here probably like once or twice a week to like hang out with your kids for a few hours. It feels so bad because I feel like I'm always like yelling at him. Cause as as if he's one of my own. Like I I like he thinks of you as another parent. I mean, on Sunday, my child was coming back from their dad's house, and uh one of the first things my child says is, Can you help me write a letter? And I was like, Yeah, what do you want it to say? So we at first he came over and the paper said his name up top. And then my kid says, I want it to say, I hope you have a good day. And I said, Okay, do you want me to write it for you? And he's like, No, no, no, no, no, I want to write it. I was like, okay. He's like, How do you spell I? And I was like, I. And so we went through all the different like words and spelt it all out. And then I was like, oh, and then I was like, is this for me? And he's like, no, this is for for Amanda, your friend Amanda. And I was like, this is for Amanda. Yeah, I want to make sure she has a good day. So I want to give this to Amanda. Can we go drop this off at her house right now? And I was like, not right now. And unfortunately, I keep forgetting it. So it's on my it's on my desk waiting for you. In total like serial killer handwriting, it says my child's name, and I hope you have a good day.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Oh my gosh, I love it. You are so loved. So it's funny because both of our kids do this. They they are around our our kids, are around both of us all the time. But my children call you your friend Lenny. Hey mom, is your friend Lenny coming over? Your friend Lenny, your friend Lenny, and it sounds like your child does the same of your friend Amanda. Your friend Amanda's. Are we going to your friend Amanda's house? Am I going to your friend Amanda's house after school? I mean, it's cute. And again, my child knows that we're friends. I know.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

I know. I just think it's fetty. Like at drop off today, while my child's running into breakfast, turns around and looks at me and goes, Mama, I need to tell you something. And like waddles on back. And I was like, What? What's up? And they say, I hope you have a great day at work, and I hope you see your friends today.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

And I was like, Oh, thank you so much. I am gonna see my friends.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

And so and here I am, hanging out with my friends. Here we are. Oh, what a what a dream, what a dream. Yeah. Oh man, do you know what also I did right after drop off?

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Uh oh gosh. Wait, you have to tell me it like I feel like this is turning into like the Chronicles, pool chronicles. What is going on with your pool? I assume that's what you're talking about. Yes, it is. Okay, so here's the thing to your pool. If you want a pool, I never want to tell you something. Never.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

It is an endeavor. So there's two options. You can either pay about $150 to $175 a month to have someone do it for you. Which is probably worth it. Which is probably worth it. But the thing is, they're only there for like five, ten minutes a week. We're in the wrong industry. We are, I'm telling you. There's so many things that we should be like doing. Anywho, so that that's one option. Option number two is you can do it yourself. I personally pay for a cleaner to come to my house every other week. That's how I like to spend my extra money because I I hate cleaning toilets. I hate cleaning toilets. I just I despise it. I hate uh dusting. Yeah. Those are things that I don't want to do. I'd rather pay the money towards that. So I don't pay for a pool cleaner. But the thing is, I'm not used to cleaning my pool. I'm used to making my first husband clean my pool. And so now it's on me. It's me. I'm in a pool cleaner. Which I feel like it was fine for the first little bit there. Yeah, because it was winter. Oh, winter, pools don't need as much work because A, you're not in them, and B, there's not as much sunlight. Because the sun, the UV rays, it gets rid of chlorine. And chlorine is needed. And so I usually put a lot of effort into look researching how to do things. The pool, I was like, man! If they could do it, I can do it. I'm not gonna put any effort into it. So, anywho, because of that, I have not been checking the water regularly. I've not been putting chlorine in every week like you're supposed to. Wow. And so today I went out, or yesterday I went out to my pool and I was like, yeek, it's so green. And so I scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub, and I poured two gallons of chlorine in it, and I and I ran it for the pool cleaner for like a while. And then at night at like nine, ten o'clock at night, I turned it off. And I was like, okay, it's gonna be good. I woke up this morning, it was more green. I was like, oh god. So I go to the cleaner as soon as or the pool place as soon as they open at 8 30 a.m. Uh-huh. Bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, hello, good to see you.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

I checked you on the map. I was like, I I was d debating, am I gonna shower before we podcast or not? And I was like, let me see where she's at. And you were at the pool store, and then I was like, okay, and I'm like getting my stuff ready, and I look again, and you are still at the pool store. I'm like, oh, this had taken a while. I think I'm good to get in the in the shower. So what happened when you went in there, Brad Eyed Bushy-tailed? They said, You have virtually no chlorine in your pool.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

They were like, you need to do algaci to like remove the grain.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

And they're like, we need to shock your pool. You need to pour four more gallons of chlorine in your pool. You need to run your pool uh your pool for 48 hours. They were and then after that, you need to pour a gallon of chlorine in once a week, and on top of that, you need to have the tabs in there. Are we have we learned our lesson? I learned my lesson. I need to make more money so that I can pay for a pool. Pool cleaner. That's what I learned.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

There's the lesson though. There's my freaking lesson. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

But anywho, so dealing with my pool clean uh pool, getting that all sorted. Yeah. Uh, it was an endeavor. So did you did you put the did you do all that? I did all that this morning. Did all that this morning. But here's the thing: chlorine bleaches your clothes, right? Yes. And so I was like, Oh no. I'm gonna take my pants off because I don't want to get in all my pants. So here I am, Donald Duckin' in my own backyard while I pour chlorine in. But I had my cute green cardigan on this whole outfit. Chlorine got on my cardigan, so it it died my cardigan. So my cardigan's my cardigan's ruined. But at least these pants weren't.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Um my god.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

I was wondering, I was like, I don't think she was wearing that when I saw her at the end. So next time, I guess I have to clean my pool in the nude. Oh well. Oh well, neighbors, don't look. I think I might be the nudie neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Yeah. Yeah. No question. There's no no, no, no question.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

So have you ever heard there's always a nudie neighbor? You're either the nudie neighbor or you have a nudie neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Yeah. I'm the nudie neighbor. Well, I I know before kids we were the nudie neighbors. You were the nudie neighbors. Well, because so we're really good friends with our neighbors, or our our neighbors. Yeah. And um, it gets really hot in Sacramento. Yes. Like really hot. We touch 120 sometimes. Oh, it's so hot. And my husband hates paying smud money. Yeah, because smud should be paying him money. So he so he sweats us out every summertime. And so it this- What do you set your AC to off? And then he can, I can he usually would set it for like 82 and I get it down to like 68.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Those are so different.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Are you are you making are they not different or are they really different? Yes, 82 to 68. Oh no, no, sorry, 72. I'm like, wait, for holy cannoli. 72, 72. 72, 72, and then I bump it down to like 68, 67. And then we take advantage of the delta breeze. Yeah. But in the summertime, before kids, I would get home and I take my pants off, and I would just be walking in my underwear all the time. And so our neighbors, our good friends, uh, we hung out all the time. They'd always like text beforehand and like, hey, I'm gonna stop by. Do you have does Amanda have pants on? Can you like make sure Amanda has pants on before we walk over? So Amanda pants alert. Amanda Pants alert. I love it. And then, like, since kids, it's not quite as, but yeah. Wow, this is turning into like an R-rated um podcast. Nudity. Okay, here's my take. Do you want a loan officer and a real estate agent? This is my angry take. Here in the US, nudity is always sexualized.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

In other places like Europe, toplessness and nudity are not as inherently sexual. I know. I think I have just a European take on life. I like my siestas and I like being nude. Okay. I do like taking naps. Yes. They're so good. Yes. I just think that we have an issue with this. Like, me being nude is not inherently sexual. True. Yeah. Yeah. And me taking a siesta does not make it.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

No, absolutely not. No. Hey, why guess what? I started a new hobby.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Tell us, tell us, tell us.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

I have picked up the violin. The violin. I'm so happy for you. The hardest instrument to play. I grew up, I was a piano player growing up, and so like I know how to read music-ish, you know. I probably became like a would consider myself an intermediate level piano player. Like, not like I can I can play music not well by reading it. I know music notes or whatever. But the way that violin music just has gripped my heart since a young age. And even doing more research more recently, people say like the reason people love violin so much is because it mimics the human voice more than any other. So I cannot sing for the life of me. But if I can sing through a violin. So anyway, this has been something for like 25 years. I've been wanting to do. My parents wouldn't let me do it back when I was in high school because I would change what I wanted to do all the freaking time. We talked about this in a previous episode. Yes. And so, like, they finally had to put their foot down and be like, no, we're not doing this. Like, you fly airplanes, you play the piano, you go to community college, even though you're in high school, like you're not doing the violin too. You're learning Russian and French. Like, no. And so uh then I um I I was just thinking about it, like within the last month or so, and I was like, you know what? There there's nothing stopping me from starting this now. Absolutely nothing. Nothing. I don't care how like there's nothing. I it doesn't matter that I'm 37. How old am I? 37. It doesn't matter. Age doesn't matter. Even if I do it for well, even if I just do it a couple of months to like say that I tried it, like that's something. Because how do I know it's not gonna spark joy until I try and see if it sparks joy? And if I do really like it and I play for years and years to come, like I could be good at it. Absolutely. And also there's nothing embarrassing about being bad at something. No, I'm and this is just like you were talking about your son with jujitsu and watching you lose at that tournament the last time that we had one of these conversations. So now my kids want to learn instruments, and I'm like, I want you to see me do it badly first. I want you to see that this is not easy for adults and that it's a lot of repetitiveness and doing the same thing over and over again. And if you are think that you can do it too, then great, we'll sign you up. But uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm doing it badly and I'm excited about it. Hey, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Um, on that note, I did a 5k on Monday. It was really cute. How did that and Monday was a holiday, so it was uh Memorial Day. And so I did the Barks and Brews uh 5K. Okay. It's a 5k for um canine companion. They're a nonprofit. Oh, yeah. Uh Kine Companion is a group that uh raise and give away free uh service animals to veterans, children, and adults with a disability.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

And so for Memorial Day, they have their annual Barks and Brew 5K. So I signed up for it. And my child, bless their heart, just was dragging their feet, moving so slowly. And so I decided the most chaotic decision, I'm gonna carry. So I That was so chaotic.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

I carried for I thought you said, I thought you were gonna say when you told me this, I was like, oh, sh she's doing this so that she can stay, you like keep up with her friends. But then you proceeded to tell me that your friends left you anyway. There's no way I could have kept up with them.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

They are so fit. I have the fittest friends ever. I am just over there surrounded by goddesses constantly who are tall, like you. And so tall. I am five four.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

I am not tall. That's tall.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

I'm not five four.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

I'm surrounded by tall people. If Michael ever listens to a podcast and hears that clip, he'll be like, excuse me, you think that my 5'4 wife is tall? I'm 5'1, okay? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

I do think you're tall.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

I look up to you.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

My husband is a good foot and a half taller than you. Yes. I look up to you metaphorically and physically.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

Uh anywho, so this 5K. Sorry, back to the 5K. There are, I'm carrying 36 extra pounds on my body. Okay. So I'm not going fast. I'm trying my best. I'm jogging. Sure. But people are passing me. Yeah. Elderly people are passing me. Yeah. Um and my child is like, Mama, people are passing you. You're not gonna win. You're not gonna win. No shit. Sherlock, sorry. No, yeah. Seriously. I'm like, well, there's people who are there's someone who literally did a 19-minute like that there, okay? No, someone did a 15-minute there.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Someone did like, good lord.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Yeah. Someone did a 15-minute for the 5K.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Sub five minute miles. What is that? Sub three minute? No, sub-five minute miles. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

I was like, okay, cool. Well, that's not gonna be me. Yeah. Um, fastest I've ever done at my fittest was 27, 16. That was like my fittest. Yeah. Um, and so anywho, I like put my child down and I was like, walk with me for a little bit. And I'm having them walk, and I said, Hey, I just want to let you know, us showing up, we won. Yeah. I was like, us coming here right now is winning. Us going to the finish line is winning. I said, that is what's winning. And this old lady is passing me with her friend, like literally passing me. And she's like, Yeah. So I just want everyone to know, I'm immensely proud of my friend Amanda here. Like immensely. When Amanda posted a post on her social media of her playing her violin, I reposted it. Because I'm just so you're so cute. I'm so proud of her. I'm so proud of her. Because she's doing this, not expecting to be like the next like person playing with like the orchestra here in Sacramento. Like you, like you're doing this because you want to. You're doing this because you can. Yeah. And the fact that you're doing it, you're winning. Thank you. You are winning, Amanda. Yeah. Like, I'm so proud of you. Thank you. Like every day I'm like just like, damn, I'm so lucky with the people I surround myself with.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

I I mean, not to like do the I'm proud fest, but I I mean, when my my husband has been out of town a couple of times recently. Yeah. And he uh, and so I've been solo parenting for the times that he's out of town. And I like sit there and I'm just like, she does this all the time. Like this is just her life. I just have to get through the next five days. And I text you when I'm having those moments, and I'm just like, I am so proud of you for like being a single mom and taking care of your child, and like it's a lot of mental emotional energy that you put into parenting, solo parenting, and maintaining a household and being the sole provider for your family. Like, you're amazing too. It it is I'm in awe of you.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

It's a lot, but at the same time, I feel like it's really gratifying, right? Like, I I reap the benefits of it too.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Like, do I enjoy reading literature on child rearing? Not particularly. Like, that's not like what I wanted to do for a living. Yeah. But like, I mean, I try my best to put effort into my child, and like I'm at a point where I'm thinking, like, I I I think I might want to, I think I'm raising someone that I would be friends with.

unknown 26:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

And I think that's a really cool thing to feel. I love that. Because, you know, I don't think that my parents were thinking about that when raising me.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

I don't think they were thinking of like, of like, and I'm not trying to bag on them, like no, but like I just don't think that was a thought in their head of like, yes, I think that I agree. Like that our parents not not uh that it was bad, well, you know, it just like the generation. It was more of like you're raising kids to be good people, but you're not consciously thinking like these are gonna be my best friends when I grow up.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Yeah, and like you know, my child's gonna grow up to be their own person. Like they're not my my child's not my friend right now, but like I can't wait. I I think my I'm raising a cool person. I'm really stoked for like what's gonna come in the like the following years. Um so it's just cool, it's really cool. Um yeah, no, I I I feel good about that. I got a question for you. Tell me. And I'm struggling with this. Okay. Um, I have an addiction. Okay. I'm addicted to my phone. Okay. I'm like fully addicted to my phone. Okay. I'm not gonna be able to help you because I am as well. I know, but like that's the problem, right? Is like I try and get my Jonesing and like my fix of my phone when my child's at school. Summer break is here. I am trying to figure out how I'm going to manage my phone addiction well without my child then furthering their addiction. So, okay, we've probably talked about this before. I I try and limit screen time for my child as best I can just because I know how addicted I am, and my child is me. Like my child acts just like me. Um so I limit it to an episode of TV a day. Uh, and when my child gets in front of its screen, they are enthralled and are very hard to pull away. Yeah. Um I I'm not gonna lie, I love my phone. I love having my phone on me, I love looking at my phone. I'm addicted to that little LED screen.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

And I'm wondering for the summer how I'm going to manage like not being addicted to my phone. Like, how am I gonna cut this like addiction? Or like how am I going to be addicted to my phone while trying to raise a child not addicted to a screen?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I don't know. I don't have I I can't I can't really comment because we are constant, like in our in this household, we are super screen heavy. Yeah. And uh Michael and I are both constantly on our phone. Um I think part of it is teaching your child that there are different rules for different people, right? Like just because you are on your phone doesn't mean that he gets unlimited TV time.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

But Well, still not saying do as I say, not as I do, because that's not how it's more of like when you're an adult, you get to make adult decisions as well.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

And but no, I don't, I don't have I mean, I guess part of it is what we're already planning on doing is we're gonna have a lot of activities planned throughout the summer. Absolutely. I mean, so the next week and a half, I'm planning on doing absolutely nothing. Like very, very minimal things. We are gonna be home, we're gonna veg, we're gonna sleep in, we're gonna what does the school call it? Um acclimation period. Oh yeah, the acclimation the So I think there's a different name for it.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Is it but acclimation works? It's it's yeah. So essentially the next week and a half, you're taking it as acclimating to no school. Yes. Great. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

And you know, with that, we'll probably be able to deep clean the house and stuff and do all those things and come and hang out with you guys and stuff. But but I don't want, I really don't want anything or much on the calendar for the next week and a half.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Uh and then after that, we will start getting into routines. We'll start going to the library, taking advantage of IKEA and their Wednesday free lunch and 60 minutes of child care. Yeah, yeah. Although I was trying to explain that to my kids yesterday, and they were like, Oh yeah, IKEA, the place with all the rooms. And I think that they think we're gonna go to IKEA and get to play in IKEA. I'm like, no, it'll actually be, you'll be in the kids' zone at IKEA. So we'll we'll see. I don't know. I don't know how many times we're gonna be able to do this or if it's gonna cause issues with my family. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

I feel like we could do it if we send all three together in there.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Yeah, yeah. But I just like I don't know if after they're gonna be like, and now I want to wander the halls of IKEA for yeah, we can't do that every time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Um, I am really interested if we do that. What I've experienced all three of our kids together with just me. You've experienced our kids together all together with just you. I'm interested to hear how it goes with an adult in a childcare setting like that with all three of our kids without us present.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Well, we were talking about this yesterday because our our young um yours and my youngest, we call them the twins. Yeah. And they are at each other's throats all the time. Although yesterday they ganged up on my son. The oldest. The oldest. And we were like, no, you're not allowed to play with us. You're you're not gonna be in the world. Elitism! No, sorry. We don't want to play with you. And and they like we're buddy buddy, and my son comes out like crying, like they are not being kind, they are not being inclusive, all of these things. Oh I am a little bit worried that the three of them that that their the mentality is like, you know how the the sibling mentality is I can beat up my little sister, but you better not touch my little sister. I feel like that's how they're gonna be. And I'm a little worried of a little bit of a a little uh gang mentality.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

And so for for our children's school, they decide on the classrooms by the end of May.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

So our classrooms are already decided. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Have they told us that?

SPEAKER_02 33:06

No. They have not released that information to us. But we did hear something. So I've heard a couple of some things. What did you hear? Mr. Well, the Mr. G, um, who's the um teacher's aide for our class for our current boys' classroom, was talking to me about being my child's TA for the next year and talking about what the plan is and like how they're excited. And then Mr. G went up to you and essentially insinuated that your daughter is going to be.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Yeah, and I don't know if he said that just because, like, you know, we were there celebrating my son moving on and, you know, having my son in my class, and maybe he's just like saying maybe it was implied, like, oh yeah, if they are in my class, then But there's no ifs.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Mr. G knows who's in the class.

unknown 33:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Well, he just he just said, he's like, I'm I'm excited. I'm excited for her. Because I said I said something about um instead of saying that we're that she's bossy, we say that she has leadership potential. Hell yeah. She has a lot of leadership potential. So I was saying that to Mr. G. I was like, yeah, you know, and I said it just like that. Yeah, we don't. I I said, yeah, she's bossy. And I said, I mean, she has a lot of leadership potential. And he's like, good, good, I like that. Because you know, those are the kids that next year I'm gonna be calling on her. And she's whenever I need to know something, I'm gonna be calling on her to do it, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we'll see. We'll see. I I have mixed feelings um about class placement, and I have mixed feelings about our kids being in the same class. I know, same here. Because yeah, because either they're gonna be at each other's throats competitively in a not healthy way, yeah, or they are gonna be the bullies, if you will, that like I bully is a strong word, but like I feel like they could they might gang up on other kids. The little mob mentality. Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Yeah. What's nice is they won't they won't be on the same playground.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

That's true. So And they won't they probably won't be in the same pull-outs, but they might be because I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Your daughter is extremely smart. Yeah. I don't know if Amanda was planning on bragging about this, but I'll brag about it for you. Your daughter is super smart, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

She's she's very smart. She um even on like tests that we do through UC Davis for like their um mind institute stuff, like my kids are placebo children for their studies. And um, she scores so high. And I'm like, oh god, you are a smart cookie. She is very smart. Yeah. I think that she can do most of the stuff that is on the TK list of things they need to do by the end of the year.

unknown 35:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

She misses 13, so they have to count to 20. She misses 13, so it won't take her long to figure out where 13 is in the line. Yeah. She can identify letters. She's writing. She's r she does write.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

She does. She does. She wrote her own name for those for those T ball cards. It's on my wall. It's so cute. It's very cute. I mean, it's kind of chaotic. It takes up the whole, it's like an M over here and then a Y over here. And that's how it starts, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Yeah. Like my child has a very long name. Yes. And for the beginning of the school year, it was chaos. It took up an entire 8 by 11 page. And now they can write their name on a single line. Wow. And so, I mean, yeah. I can imagine your daughter catching that.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Progress pretty quickly, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. It's gonna be interesting. It will be interesting. However, it falls. We find out in two months. It's almost June, July, August. Yeah. We find out in two months. I know.

unknown 37:01

It's coming.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

It is coming.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Um, so with summer, we're also gonna be working still.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Yeah. You probably more than me. My my working will look different, I think.

unknown 37:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

How so? I don't know. I feel like I'm exhausted. Like I've just uh it's just a really rough season. Yeah. Not just for you. No, no. It's just like, yeah, homes are not moving, like people are not buying and selling. There's always someone buying and selling, right? But I just I'm feeling like I need to feed into my kids a little bit more this summer than to feed into prospecting for clients because I don't know. I don't, I just like it's not that I I like I certainly want to work with clients, but I feel like it's turning my wheels to um to prospect for people who don't want to buy or sell right now. So instead, it's kind of like a um, I don't know, maybe this is naive, like more of like attraction marketing of like putting myself out there as a genuine person and pulling in the people who are in a life stage to want, if that makes sense. Like so, like more focused on community this summer and building relationships this summer and then having clients come from that, than for me to be sitting there being like, oh, and I need to make six contacts today to talk about real estate in order to sell this many homes and that. Like, I don't, I don't wanna, I don't know. Community and grassroots has always worked really well for both of us.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Yeah. Uh I don't have a membership to the community pool, but you do, and I will be happily tagging tagging along to every single time. And as we saw from the last time we were there, we we can talk to people. Yes. We can work in a conversation. Yeah, not like in a creepy, like sales pitchy way, but like in like a genuine, like this is what we do. We hang out here, we'll see you, like let's build community. And if you need uh our services, we're here for you.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yeah. Well, and I think I guess maybe what has me in my feels a little bit too, um, which I'm I'm not, I don't like I'm not mad about it, but I have multiple friends that recently have used other realtors, which is totally fine. People have a myriad of reasons of why they don't choose like everyone knows so many realtors, and like you they may feel loyal to some because they've used them in the past, or you know, um maybe friends are or like family is paying for a portion of the down payment, and so there are some strings attached, or there and and there doesn't have to be any reason. People could just pick someone other than me just because. But I think that like right now I'm seeing the clients that I currently am working with are um turn their wheels are turned, like they've been looking for a long time and not deciding on a property. And so that's like discouraging. And then on this flip side, the ones that are in escrow or like moving forward, they picked someone else. And I'm like, oh, it it again, I I'm not upset that they did it, but I don't feel like I have enough going on in my life, like in my real estate life, that I'm like, that it does like I see that I'm like, well, I don't know. It just gets me in my feelings of like, am I not good enough? Or am I am I like, am not, you know, it just makes you think of certain things. I totally get it.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Um, I've had people, you know, I'm in my early 30s, so I'm in an age point where a lot of people are buying their first homes. Yeah. Or, you know, uh, there's been a big transition in wealth from people's grandparents or older parents to then give them money to go towards purchasing a home. Yeah. We're seeing that transition start to happen now. Sure. Um, and so I've had quite a people over the years just like at parties like be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna use you, and like it's like the I'm gonna use you, I'm gonna use you, and then it's the like awkward, oh yeah, we we're closing on our house in a few days.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah. And like, and again, I I take no or or hey, we're in escrow, and I just had a couple of questions for you. Because that happens to me too, and I'm like, no, I get it. I mean, it's not again, I I get wanting to be a part of your like take advantage of your rotation with a c with a friend.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

Yeah. Because they were sending me a bunch of stuff to review and like asking me for my opinion, and I had to be like, hey, you decided on your team, and they're being paid to answer these questions for you. And if I was in their shoes, I would feel a little offended if you were still going to someone else to get these answers. Yeah. Like, I as someone as a professional, you probably should reach out to your professional about this.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

And then if you still have questions, you're you're more than welcome to reach out to me, but like I have to divert with the person that you're currently working with.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

Yeah, and I always like say, like, well, what did your agent say? And then usually the answer, they give me the answer, and I'm like, Yeah, I actually agree with what your agent is saying. Yeah. Um which I think, you know, maybe sometimes that's all they're looking for is just confirmation. Yeah. But it's funny that they don't pick you as the initial. Yeah. But they want that confirmation. And it's again, so all of this to say, like looking into the summer, I I just feel like I I need to uh I don't really know how to say it. Just like I I just feel like I need to build community and not, I don't want to say like not care about prospecting, but kind of not care about prospecting. I don't know. You you guys are listening to me like literally talk this through and think it through uh in real time.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

I also think in my head, like you only have a little bit more time before your daughter is in school.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

And so I mean, we've talked about it before. Take advantage of this time. Yeah. Because in just a few short months, you are going to be child free Monday through Friday. Yeah. And so that's gonna be a whole new stage of life. You might as well take advantage of it.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I mean, again, selfishly, we're both in industries that allow us to have this flexibility, right? And so, and and you have a partner that also brings in money that you can technically survive on if needed. And so, like be selfish with this time.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Yeah. And so But that doesn't mean I'm not taking clients. So if you're listening to this and you want to use me as your agent, you call me up.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Yeah, you absolutely call Amanda. Manda's great. Um, here's the thing in our industry, what matters almost as much as your own performance is who. You refer to. And so if I'm willing to refer to you, that means that I think that you are as good as me or better. And so Amanda is someone that I wholeheartedly trust to a point where I'm willing to have a podcast with regarding our industry. That I'm pushing to have our children on the same team, that I'm pushing for our kids to be in the same classroom. I mean, yeah, you do good work. Yeah. And whenever you do need to get stuff done, your kids are more than welcome to come to my house. Yeah. And chill with me. For sure. And I'll make your kids try burata. And apparently they'll they'll like it. So I we've talked about it before. I'm an ingredients household. And I have a lot of interesting ingredients, I guess, in my household. And Amanda's children are a little bit more reserved in what they're willing to try. We are an air fryer household.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

So we take we take frozen food and put it in the air fryer.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

Which is also good. Okay. And so when her kids come over and I'm like, oh, you know what? I just made homemade pesto and let's make a pasta. Her kids look at me like I am trying to feed them alien food. And but her daughter hung out with me the other day because you went to a uh design studio appointment.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

Yeah, my c my clients are in contract. I so I do have clients. Like I don't want to, I'm making it sound like I don't have any clients. Like I am working with people, but I think that you know, when you see people close to you using other agents, then it's like it it just gets you gets you get in your head. We do get in our head. It's nice to it's fine. It's just, I mean, it's just part of the industry. Yeah. Um, but I was at a design studio appointment with um with some clients that are uh they are in contract on a new build, and it was design studio day to pick all of their finishes out, and so they'll be closing in October. Which is so fun. Also, I brought a squirrel with me to that appointment.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

We totally did not talk about this yet.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

I know. Should we tang it now or after you make your point?

SPEAKER_02 46:05

No, tangent now. This is so funny.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Okay, I um my husband was out of town. This always happens when he's out of town. And my husband was out of town, and I uh went to feed the cats that are like half feral, half our cats uh in the front yard. Like one of them is sleeping on my bed right now. Like they're not like But then the other one comes in like once a month so that I can give her flea medicine and then never and then the other one doesn't get let anyone pet him at all. Anyway, I I was gonna go out to give these um feral, not feral cats um some food, and they were super interested about something that was going on at a bush next to my car, and I was like, what what are they so interested in that like they are not coming for the food that I'm bringing out?

SPEAKER_03 46:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

And then I hear a squirrel just going berserk in the tree, and I'm like, oh, that mama squirrel is mad. And then so I went to the bush and I heard something under the bush, and I thought, you know what? It's either a lizard or that's a squirrel. And so I stuck my hand under the bush and I pulled out a baby squirrel.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

The cutest baby squirrel. It looked animated.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

It was so cute. Very cute. Yeah, so I um I uh texted my neighbor who is all things wildlife, and I was like, help, what do I do? Michael's gone. I don't I I got myself into a pickle here, and I'm holding a baby squirrel. I can't just like release it back. Cats like licking their lips. I have a picture of my cats all sitting under the tree, like staring up at the box that I ended up putting it in. Uh anyway, I tried to reconnect it with its mom unsuccessfully. I knew I was gonna be gone the next day, so I didn't have time the next day to reconnect. It slept in my bathroom overnight. Snow white here. I know. It always happens. And then um, so we uh uh slept overnight and then uh I needed to go to the design studio appointment for my clients and uh had someone who had messaged me and said, Hey, because I was gonna take it to like the wildlife refuge like sanctuary, whatever. And my friend said, like, hey, if if you don't have anyone, like if if you can't get it reunited with its mom, like I'll take it. Like, we've been wanting a pet squirrel, and you know, if it doesn't work out, we have a wildlife refuge of here. And I was like, Okay, can you come to me? And they were like, Yeah. And I was like, Okay, great, meet me in Fulsom at the design studio. It's a funny thing. I had this baby squirrel in the car, uh, and then handed it off to her. They did end up deciding to give it to the wildlife refuge because they said, you know, the baby squirrel was thriving. She was um like she got it to eat, she got it, you know, it was running around, but they felt like it would live its happiest life, and I agree, it live its happiest life with like a catch and release. Yeah, being a squirrel, being a squirrel. And so uh they gave it to um the wildlife refuge so that they could foster it until it's ready to be released into a colony. So happy and ending, but yes, um this day that my daughter is at your house. Yes, and so that's that's what I was doing.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

I just feel like you know, Amanda and I started all this with me being like, help, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna be a newly single mom, and I I just don't know how I'm gonna manage all this. And Amanda was like, Stop, you do not need to pay an additional $300 something dollars for after school care that you're only gonna use twice a week. Yeah, just have your kids spend the time at my house. And I really went back and forth with it because I didn't want to, I hate relying on others, and which is not good when you're trying to build community, you have to rely. And so I was like really fighting with back and forth, and I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna do this, and like financially I didn't know where it was gonna be because all these bills are gonna be on me. And you ever so graciously said, Stop, you're being dumb. Yeah, you don't need to pay me anything. Let your child come with me just a few hours a week. Yeah, and it was like literally like two hours a week you were asking for. It was still not even, it was still really helpful, yeah. And then slowly it came into you leaning on me too, which felt amazing. Yes. So here's the thing with community you need to lean on others and you need to let others lean on you. Yeah, that's like the big key. People always think, like, oh, I just need to be there for them. No, it's also the other way around.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

And then I feel guilty because I'm like, I take your kid for like two hours a week, and here I am saying, Can you take her for five hours? But we had a great time.

unknown 50:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Your daughter and I had a phenomenal time. Yeah. Aside from her little, what was she? She was being a little defiant. It was a no day. Oh, it was a no day.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

I was like, Do you want this? No. Do you want that? No. And I was like, Are you just gonna say no about everything? No. And I was like, oh right. I was like, you're just gonna be in a you're just being a contrarian. She's like, no. She has the cutest, like, petite voice sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Oh my god, it drives me nuts because I can't understand her. It's so high-pitched. I'm like, I'm like, child, you need to talk in a normal voice. I cannot understand you when you are that high pitched. She has two modes.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

It's either the most high-pitched voice or it's like loud, boisterous, screaming. Yes. And I love both of them. She's fine. Uh it's also really funny because I'll make her do the same thing over and over again. Because she'll say, She's like, watch me do this, watch me do this. And I'm like, nice, do it again. And then she'll do it, and then I'll say, do it again. And I'll keep doing it until she is so over it. And it's funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. I think it's also good because our kids are both seeing different parenting styles. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like, for sure. My child is learning how to exist in your home. Yeah. Which is making my child better at acclimating to new surroundings, right? And same thing with your children. Your children are being in my house, and like, we're we're you and I are very close friends, but we are very different people. Yes. And so I think it's really good for our kids. Yeah, I think so. So I think the summer's gonna be good for them as well in that sense.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

And she tried Bria that day. Yeah, she tried Brie and Barata. Oh, Barata. Yeah. See, I don't even know. Say, I don't even know what she ate. I don't like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

What anything? Wait, Brie, brata, uh salami, and like crackers and f and uh sourdough bread. But she wouldn't eat the green olives and she wouldn't eat the artichoke, which you know what? Fair. It's um it's all good. Fair but the fact that like I made new things, she tried new things, she wasn't freaking out about the and I put the veggies facing closest to her. She didn't freak out about it. And so it was a good time.

SPEAKER_01 52:34

It was great. Yeah, no, that's that's great. I um so this reminds me that I was listening to a TikTok the other day that said that ADHD podcasts are this person's favorite because they'll start a conversation, go off of three different tangents, and then still circle back around and finish the original story. And I feel like that's us sometimes with this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

I mean, I I I do have ADHD and I do live unmedicated. By the way, we decided, Amanda and multiple people in my life have decided that I cannot get medicated. Did I?

SPEAKER_00 53:07

I don't remember saying that. I said, I said, Where's the paperwork that you need to turn into the doctor? I thought you said you try it, but if it starts affecting you financially. And you haven't tried it.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

So you don't Okay, here's the crazy thing. If you have ADHD and you like need to get medication, so you have to get like formally diagnosed for it.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

It's awful.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

It's awful. You have to fill out paperwork and then you have to find an adult from your childhood that will fill out the paperwork about you as a child. No. And I'm like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 53:45

And then like and I told you to lie to the doctors and say that you don't have any because you the problem is that the only person that you think that could fill it out is my grandma. Your grandmother who also has ADHD.

SPEAKER_02 53:59

She has worse ADHD.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

So really you don't it's not even a lie. You do not have anyone in your life that can fill out the paperwork. I don't know. You don't have anyone in It's fine. Hey, if you're if you're happy, live in your unmedicated life. I'm happy for you. I mean You just reached a point where you were like, I think I need to try this just to see. And I said, Yeah, try it and see. If it doesn't work, then stop it. And you took that to mean I that I said you need to live an unmedicated life. Way to twist those words.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

Way to hear what you wanted to hear. Honestly, I wanted to try medication for the most craziest reason, too.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

So stop. Any who's and whatsies. I'm really excited because you and I we talked about this yesterday, and you kind of came to me in a very serious tone, and you were like, Hey, I want to talk to you about the podcast. And you were like, Oh yeah. And I was like, whoa, what's you gonna tell me? And she comes saying, What do you think about like, you know, every five episodes us doing a yap sesh? And I was like, or we could do it every other episode. Because let's face it, a lot of the people that we've spoken to regarding the podcast like these parts of our conversation the best. And so I was like, what if we did a 50-50?

unknown 55:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:11

So I think this is gonna be a really good move for us. I think so too. Again, if you have feelings about it, don't hold out. Let us know.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Look, not enough of you are telling us about what you like and you don't like about the podcast. So if you have an opinion, you need to be sharing it with us. Absolutely. If we don't hear anything, then we're just gonna do our own thing, for better or for worse. I know. But we we're still gonna keep doing this. I know. For you 30. For you 30. Uh tried, tried and true. Try it and true. Loyals from the ground up. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. Well, thank you. If we so next week we had talked about well, we'll we'll we'll kind of decide what next episode is gonna be. It might be a little bit more structured, uh talking about uh maybe the escrow process. Yeah. Um, or we might throw a wrench in everything and just keep going like this and throwing in little bits and pieces of real estate as we go. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

We're still working, we're still chugging along, we're still doing stuff. Honestly. Yeah, absolutely. Um, and if you have something you want to hear from our opinions, let us know. We're happy to yep about it too.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

We have opinions for days. And like uh, I'm gonna shout out uh Catherine Serp. Catherine Serp, we love you. Um she reached out to us and like we were doing like voice notes back to back to each other in text, and we were like talking about things, and she let us know, like, hey, can you talk about that? That was so awesome. Yeah, and also also Catherine, I think you're so cool. Um, I follow you on Instagram and I like watching your stories. Yeah, um, she's a real estate agent down in Sebaccula. In Sebacula. Um, she's killing it, she's a veteran. So um, you know, if you are looking for an amazing person who's in the LGBT, who's a veteran, who's good at her job, who's in red mega country. Who's in red mega country, deep in it, you know, you got you got someone there.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Yeah. So yeah, she's she's great. Uh, we do want to have her eventually. So we're still trying to figure out how to do um interviews from afar. I think we I think we have I think we know it's gonna work. We just haven't actually tried it to ensure. But yeah, we do want to get her on the podcast too. We do we do like the interviews. Yeah, interviews. The interviews are fun. They're they're lots of fun. And now that we're getting into the uh the what is the word I'm looking for? Swing of things. Now that we're getting in the swing of the things for ourselves, I think it'll be easier to do to pull people in for for interviews. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:42

I agree. Cool. Peace out, Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

That's fun. Yes, yes. That's reality check, real lives, real estate, and the conversations most people do not want to have. We'll talk soon.