Having Babies Is Hard And 5 Red Flags Ranked! WDR #19

Natalie is put through the ringer with her babies this week enduring little sleep and a lot of over stimulation. Jake finished a move back to his homeland and completed a run. Then we both ranked 5 red flags from bad to worst. It's quite the episode!

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

I officially caught runner's high. And I'm exhausted. This is we don't relate. At all. Well, well, well. Here we are. Another week, another episode. Natalie, it's so good to see you. Even if today is virtual, I see you brought your dinner with you. Tell me, what's going on, Ski? How's your week been?

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Long.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Hmm. Long hell.

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My husband is working nights this week. And my children always seem to know. And just keep me awake.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

They've been giving you a little bit of a hard time.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

They are giving me a hard time. This is night four of me eating a cold dinner.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Jeez. And uh what is that on your plate? Is it breaded chicken and corn and mashed potatoes or something?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

No. I got salmon and couscous today.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

What in the world is couscous?

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Well, it's like they're like circular little balls of like they're similar to pasta, I would say.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

But it's I think in the rice family, it's a grain of some sort.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

Okay. It looks pretty good. It's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

I wish I had promised on cheese.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

But so you said your kids seem to somehow know. Did they just start acting up ever since uh your husband went back to night shift, or have they been on this, you know, kind of rough cycle?

SPEAKER_02 1:24

They have their moments. But for the most part, like if my like if I'm complaining all night to my husband the next day when he's home at night, they'll be like, fine. They'll go right to sleep, they won't need to be rocked, they'll maybe wake up once or twice.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Okay, so they're making you look like uh the boy who cried wolf a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Yeah, yes, exactly. Love the man, but I would love to see him deal with this for a day.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

Would you switch spots for a couple days? If you had to do it for a week, would you switch for a week?

SPEAKER_02 1:59

No, because his job does not seem fun.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Okay. So you would rather be doing the mom stuff even though it is a little stressful right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Yes. I also just want like a full night's sleep. Like I miss sleeping all night.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

Let me tell you, on the other side of things. Holy smokes. My I got a new pillow the other day, and I slept like a baby.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

Not my baby's.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

So good. So good. That seven-hour sleep that night. Mm-mm-mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

The boys woke up at 6 30 the other night. Wouldn't go back to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

They're usually like 7 38.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Okay, so they're like an hour premature.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Maybe they're still on the spring ahead time or like the pre-spring ahead time.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

I need to knock it off.

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Yeah, for real. Anything else besides, you know, some troublesome sleeping, any notable things you've done?

SPEAKER_02 2:59

We went to the eye doctor.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

Our little buddy's eyes are fine. Perfect. So no lazy eye, or no, apparently they don't cross at all. It's just, I guess, the way his the bridge of his nose is makes it look like his eyes closer in than it is. So he's fine. And the eye doctor said we don't have to go back unless we have any concerns. So that's good. Then we had their nine-month appointment.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

They're so they're so big now.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

I know. Um one baby is 20 pounds now, the other one is 9.8 pounds. Oh, not nine. 19.8 pounds.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Okay, I was like, hold up.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

And they're both in the 88th percentile for height, so they are tall boys.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Yes. I I remember coming over there and always saying these babies are long.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

They are long. I need to swap their clothes to the next size up because I've been noticing that their pajamas, their feet are getting a little looking like they're about to pop out of there, and their pants are all starting to look like capris. So we need to yeah, swap.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Are you gonna start buying like one-year clothing for them like a little prematurely because they are so tall? Like, is are they at that age right now? Or not quite?

SPEAKER_02 4:18

So right now they're growing out of six to nine month clothes, and then the next is nine to twelve months.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Okay.

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So I think like for the most part, they've been pretty like on track with the sizes, which makes it pretty convenient.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

Yeah.

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But I should start buying other clothes in advance so that we have something for when they do get to that size. I do have a bunch of hand me downs in the attic from a friend of mine. So I have some stuff, but I have two babies, and I don't want to be doing laundry every other day. So I'm headed to the thrift store tomorrow to look at some stuff. I want to get them Easter baskets, so I'm hoping they have something.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

Are you gonna fill it out with candy and like a chocolate bunny or not this year?

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Not quite yet. Probably a book and a toy or something.

SPEAKER_03 5:08

Yeah, I started saying that. I'm like, they can't even have any of that.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

No. I'm starting to plan their birthday party.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

Was it um June 15th for like their birthday party weekend? I know it's the 18th. Oh, that's their birthday. Yeah, but would it be oh gosh?

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Yeah, the 20th is their party, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

Okay, very cool, very exciting stuff. It's crazy to think that they've almost existed on this earth for close to a year now.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

I was just thinking the other day, they were born in 2025, but I got a positive pregnancy test in 2024. So I've known about these babies for two years.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

I know. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_03 5:46

They've existed for quite some time.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Crazy. Anyway, you've got a lot to talk about, and I'm gonna munch.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

A mediocre amount to talk about. So you know, last week we talked all about the trip. It was an hour-long session, and I shortened it down to 52 minutes. Today we're gonna expedite the process a little bit. We're gonna forego talking more about the trip, and we're gonna talk about my move that happened. I went back to my homeland, back to my native county and town. No, actually, I stayed in the same county the whole time. Back to my native town.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Is it nice to be home?

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Uh no, not really. I I do it really enjoy the place that I live at, but I do not like I wish it wasn't my hometown. Like, I love the apartment complex, but I just I don't know. I really liked where I was living before.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

I don't dislike my homeland, but it feel it almost feels like I'm going backwards in that way. It's there. I do really enjoy the apartment complex. I just am bored of the area already because I did live there for like 20 years or whatever. So it's okay. The commute to work kind of sucks. I'm learning to live with that, but it is kind of fire to just have a giant bedroom and a giant living room and not to worry about who I'm living with because the person I'm living with is a homie right now. So it is it is a great change of pace of living with a friend now instead of like living with someone that's a little awkward with you. And I I enjoy that. So I'd say I'd say there's there's obviously some ups and some downs, but the move is basically all done. I got I took care of taking my name off of the bills on the other place, and we're we're really settling in.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

That is.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Yeah. The bunny's here.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

The bunny. How's Bunny liking it?

SPEAKER_03 7:36

I think I think he likes it a lot. He is very lax here. He hasn't he doesn't look stressed, he just looks like he likes to chill by my bed the whole time. I've seen him chill like on the uh the foot of my bed, which is really cute. I like when that happens.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

It just hit me that our girl Strudel will never know this place.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

RIP to Strudel. Strudel was another bunny that I had that uh beautiful, beautiful bun. You know, loved your very equally as Toast, but that's such a lie.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

What do you mean? You always said Toast was your favorite.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

Okay, I I think if I name on Zoom is Toast. I think if I ever do become a parent, it's gonna be really hard for me not to pick a favorite. I'm just that type of guy that just like has a blatant favorite.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Well, learn to hide it.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

I'll just have to do it the same way that I do my friends. I call my friends like tier ones and tier twos because I'm too scared to call them like best friend because best almost implies favorite. So I'm like, yeah, he's a tier one friend, you know.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

What am I tier three?

SPEAKER_03 8:40

Tier two.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

I'll take it.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

Tier two, because we we don't talk every single day, but we do, you know, keep in touch and have something going.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

What about e-girl?

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Yo, I haven't talked to e-girl in um a week now because our friendship doesn't serve her, or my friendship with her doesn't serve her. So it is what it is. Me and e-girl might not be on talking terms.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Well, for the best.

SPEAKER_03 9:05

Other thing I'd like to talk about is over the weekend I ran the opening season half marathon, which was very cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Amazing. How'd you do?

SPEAKER_03 9:15

I I did better than what I thought I was gonna do because over the winter I haven't really done much speed work because, well, it's winter and there's ice everywhere and snow.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Right.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

So I usually don't perform super fast in the spring and then gain speed throughout summer and fall. So I opened up with an hour and thirty-nive for a half marathon, which paces me at 7.35 a mile, and I was pretty happy about that. Yeah, my fastest is an hour thirty, so nine minutes shy, and now I caught the runner's high, and I signed up for a full marathon in May, Memorial Day weekend. We're gonna go out to Vermont, or I put I did apply for one very close to us, about an hour away.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

But I think it's funny that you have to apply. And you can't just like run.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

I I know it is kind of wonky to think that that many people want to run, but they do. And there's a wait list for it, and this is my first wait list ever. So we're writing it out, seeing how far we get. And if I do get into the race that's about an hour away, I will drop Vermont and uh do that one.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Also, I'm just gonna add that now that I have eaten, I feel much better.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Perfect. So that wraps up, you know, what we've been doing all week.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

I do need to add, you probably didn't watch it, but Hannah Montana turned 20 years old.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Um I did watch it.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

You didn't wa I don't think you watched what I'm gonna say. Did you watch the Han in Montana documentary special thingy?

SPEAKER_03 10:48

I'll be quiet. I did not watch that.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Okay, our girl came over and we watched it together, and we both cried, and it was that was like maybe the highlight of my week. Sorry, to my children. But like, my children are also like climbing on me all the time now, and I think if one more person touches me, I think I might bite their head off.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Jeez. Hopefully your husband doesn't come home and try to give you a hug.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Um, he better not because I will be asleep, and I hate being touched in my sleep.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

You said uh your kids made your legs fall asleep or arm fall asleep?

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Yeah, my arm.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

I wonder if it's uh maybe a symptom of my current state. Yeah, we won't elaborate on that one. Eating wait, I have another thing I could tell you though.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

So I've had ever since the trip, three interactions with women. Okay? Because L Girl probably won't ever come into fruition for my life, which is very sad, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Or lost.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

So the only way to cope with that is just to find new people, right? So that's what I've been trying to do. I downloaded Tinder. I never download Tinder, Tinder's annoying. I I run off of hinge and bumble only. Okay, downloaded Tinder, and I started talking to three chicks. One chick ended up going on a run with me, which was very cool. I enjoyed that. Chick number two had an hour and a half long phone call with me. Very cool, very fun. Chick number three.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Tell me.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

I I don't think she was about me at all. We got on the phone call, maybe 10 minutes. I was uh, you know, trying to carry the conversation, trying to ask questions, trying to be funny. I think I put a lot of pressure on myself to just put my best foot forward and impress. And sometimes that kind of looks as like I'm stuttering over words or like trying to do too much, right? And that's not a good look. So eventually I got to the point where I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, and I ended up on like talking about chess openings, and that's great for me because I love chess, but Queen's Gambit. Yes, great, great opening and TV show.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

That's the only one I know.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Yeah, she ended up, you know, hearing about chess openings and then dropped my phone call without saying goodbye and then deleted the the uh Tinder account, and then while this was happening, when she dropped the phone call, I I texted her a question mark because I'm like, you know, maybe spotty connection. No, no, no, silly me. Nothing. She texted nothing back, she fell off the face of the planet. It's okay. We had not that long of an interaction, but still just like an ego below. I want to know why she got rid of Tinder instead of just oh she like she probably unmatched you, right? Yeah, I don't yeah, she got rid of like yeah, she unmatched.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Got rid of the connection. Yeah, so you know that felt great, but why do you look so different today?

SPEAKER_03 13:40

It's funny you say I've been I've been getting hit with comments about like, yo, are you trying to find your new style?

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Did that really you look so like clean and like like thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

You look no, I got I got that BP, you're buttering me up.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Terrible. You can't do that to me for the next I dress I dress up for the pod.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

So yeah, I um you know I'm not wearing a hat or anything. My hair is at a good length. Um, I got this new shirt, it's a running shirt. Got tunnel tunnel?

SPEAKER_02 14:09

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 14:10

Uh it's uh Tunnel Hill 50 miler that I'm going to in November. So it's a little precursor of a shirt. And uh yeah, I just got a I got a cool little necklace on, got some cool bands.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

And Saturday, we're going to a birthday party.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Who's birthday?

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Baby birthday party.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

Oh the one that you had a play date with the other the other week.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Yes. That's my sister's birthday is Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Wow. She turns 26.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Yeah. Maybe she'll get on the pod. Oh my gosh. No, I can't air that on the pod.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

I want that on the pod.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Uh it cannot be on the pod.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Before we get into our segment for the day, I would just like to reiterate, you know, we have an email for all of those. Yeah, for all of you who want to send us your burning questions, burning concerns. You did?

SPEAKER_02 14:59

I did.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Our girl uh Sophie, did she reply?

SPEAKER_02 15:02

No.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

No.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

I think she was fake.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Okay, so still no love over at the email, but you can send us an email at we don't relate at outlook.com. You could be the first one. Literally, just send us a comment saying first if you want, you know, people do that. Let's get into you know the little game I have prepared for us. So this is a ranking game. I give you five red flags. These are all bad things. All right. And I want you to rank them from first being like this is an absolute you must leave. This is the worst red flag of them all, to five being like, yeah, this is bad, but like you could there's some wiggle room. You might be able to work around it.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Okay, I'm looking at your list right now.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

The five that we have is constant jealousy, very controlling, substance abuse, love bombing, and then lack of a social circle.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

I know which one's a red flag for you.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Wait, no, they're all red flags. They're all red flags.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

I will say, okay, one is worse.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

One is like the worst one possible.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Okay. I'm going So let's start with five.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Let's start with five.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Okay, lack of social circle for me is five.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

Okay, so you don't you don't care if this guy's a social isolated weirdo.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

I mean, as long as you have one friend, like I can get jiggy with it.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

I have maybe two that I like see on the regular. Lack of social circle is gonna be five for me.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

As long as you have one friend.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

I'm gonna have you rank all five and then I'll rank all five.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Yeah, no, this is where I got my one, and then everything else is just kind of like like whatever. Okay, maybe I'm gonna say substance abuse is four. What are we calling abuse?

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Like they're going to AA or they're going to rehab.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Okay, to me, if you're in AA or rehab, you're actively fixing the problem.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Okay. Well, okay. Shoot. What if they should be going to that, but they're not? They're at that level where they have to or should be.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

I've got a friend like that. The friend I think realizes that they have a problem and they're trying to fix it.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

But it's hard for them to fix.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Yeah, no, that makes sense. It's a gener it usually is.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

You've been there.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Um the pod that.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

I think it's relatable.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

It is, yeah, yeah. And this is we don't relate podcasts. That that part is pretty relatable for people.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Okay, I'm saying substance abuse is four. Because you said when I said define, you said actively in rehab or AA.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

And I'm sticking with that. So at that point, you are trying to fix the problem.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

Trying to, yeah. It doesn't mean they are, but they're trying to. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

They're attempting. They know they have a problem and they want to fix it.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Now this is where I'm like.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Alright. Constant jealousy, controlling, and love bombing.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

I'm gonna say constant jealousy.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Is three. Because it's annoying as a fuck. But I think love bombing is worse. Maybe that's a hot take. I don't know. But I feel like love bombing is never a good sign.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

Have you ever been love bombed and like you realize that you were love bombed?

SPEAKER_02 18:31

I've been with my husband for over a decade.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

So the answer is no.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Um, the answer is no. I'm I think yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Well, my like eighth grade boyfriend was like, I don't know if I would say it a little love bombing, but he was like He's like, I love you, like right off the rip.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Oh well, off the rip, he apparently broke up with his girlfriend to date me.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Oh, it's that guy. It's because I brought over said girlfriend that he broke up with.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

Yes, yes, you did.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

That's so awesome.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah. Yeah. And then we broke up and then didn't talk for like months on end. And then he moved, but then he texted me before he moved and asked if we could have sex at the airport.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

Oh, and you were like, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I said absolutely not because he didn't even kiss me when we were dating. Because he wanted to be respectful.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

Okay, okay. So he wants to go from being walked to hitting a home run. I don't think it goes like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

That's what I'm saying. I was like, no thanks.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Um, anyway, so I'm saying love bombing is two. No, three. No, two. Love bombing is two.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Um, and then very controlling is one.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

All right, so you hate a controlling.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

I hate a controlling person because I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want to do. I don't give a shit what you think I should be doing. I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

No one likes to feel controlled. No, no, I feel that.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

What's your list?

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Well, let's see here. I think love pro love bombing is probably number five because I feel like I could get behind being loved bomb a little bit. Like I would I would be toxic about it and just ride it out and be like, this is fine. Yeah, I'd live in delusional land for a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Yeah, yeah. Your relationships tend to have a little bit of uh like toxicity in them, just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Yeah, that's okay though. I I feel like in an unhealthy way, what? But you know, yeah, I kind of like my rational brain knows, but my emotional brain is like just do it, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

It's fair, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

So uh love bombing will be number five because I probably low-key like it. Um probably. And then let's see here. Number four, I almost want to say jealousy because I I like I like when someone's jealous because then it makes me feel special, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

So if someone's like, why are you talking to this person or why are you talking to that person? I'll be like, I I rest assure you, you are totally fine, but still, as long it depends how persistent that behavior is, right, and how extreme that behavior is. If it's like overly extreme where it's like breathing down your neck, then that might be a bigger problem. But if it's like a light case of jealousy constantly, that might be a little hot.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Um, so what about in the instance of trying to ruin relationships because someone wants to be with you?

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Yeah, in that case, I'm not even in a relationship with said person who wants to ruin the relationship that I could be in. So uh I hate that. That pisses me off. Um if I'm with a dime and she wants to sabotage stuff, I might low key be into that.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

So, what I'm getting is you like toxicity.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

Unf ah crap. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Okay, I kind of I'm kind of into toxicity too in different ways, but yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Yeah, I just yeah. Number three, I I guess. Lack of a social circle should would probably be number three.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Yeah. Cause no, it's not, it's not like the biggest. It it is a kind of a big deal. Like I feel like your friends are a reflection of you. They're they're like you are who you who are the five people you hang around most. You're like the sum of that kind of.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

I would not say I am you.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

I think there's gotta be a part of you that's that's like rubbed off from me. There's gotta be. It could be small, and I might not even be one of the most like top five people that you hang out with or talk to.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Didn't we just have a conversation about head?

SPEAKER_03 22:38

You have two friends, but you have family. You have family.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah, how do I feel about my family?

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Uh you love them dearly. You spend all day with them.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

I don't know. I I feel like you are a culmination of your of your friends in a way.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

My children count as my friends because they came out of my womb, so they are me.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

I agree. Substance abuse is number two. I don't like, you know, being an alcoholic going to AA, doing pills and going to rehab or other stuff. Never good, not about it. Controlling is probably number one because but also if I'm told what to you know what? Maybe I want to switch the two. Maybe I want to switch the two. Because maybe substance abuse is the worst. Because very controlling, there can be some under undertone like hotness.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

It's kind of hot.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

Yeah, if if it's done right, but this is in the case of red flag, so it's not done right. So we're gonna put that as number two. Substance abuse is number one, done deal. That's what we're up to. And that's it. That's episode 19. That's the rap. Natalie, you want to sing us out for this one?

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Not really. I don't have anything to say. My dinner was really great.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

What did you eat for dinner today? Tuna. Oh, what kind of tuna? The kind from the can. Melts! Delicious. Heated rivalry. Are you Ilya Rosanoff?

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Uh taking the plane down to the ground. Land it. Land the plane. We'll land in the plane. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

That's good. Good. We'll work on it.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

See you next time.