Claudia Wyatt | Are you stuck, frustrated & unhappy? “Nothing Changes Until We Take the First Step."

Bounce Back in Business & Life — Episode 42

How often do you say yes when you really want to say no, just to avoid disappointing someone? How many times have self-doubt, low confidence, or fear of not being “good enough” kept you from speaking up, applying for the job, or chasing the goal you know you’re meant for?

In Episode 42, Frank Zaccari sits down with powerhouse coach and speaker Claudia Wyatt, whose mission is simple and bold: help people believe in themselves again, through imagination, confidence, and real self-care.

Claudia shares her journey through a decade of darkness, loss, and toxic relationships, and the moment she made one decision that changed everything: one step forward. Together, Frank and Claudia dig into breaking patterns, setting boundaries, asking for help (from people who’ve been where you want to go), and finding the clarity to move from stuck to unstoppable.

Because getting stuck is inevitable… staying stuck is a choice.

🎧 Listen now and rediscover the inner compass you’ve been ignoring.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Have you ever felt stuck in pain, loss, or failure? Wonder how to rise when life knocks you down again. Then Bounce Back is for you. So gather your resilience, hold tight to hope, and get ready to reimagine what's possible in your life. So here's your host, Frank Sakari.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Welcome back to Bounce Back in Business and in Life. I gotta ask you all a question. Have you found your inner compass? Do you even know what you're looking for? How often do you find yourself doing something you really don't want to do because you don't want to disappoint someone? How many times did you not apply for a job or speak up because you didn't think you were good enough? Or how many times have you had low self-esteem or low self-confidence that prevented you from pursuing a goal that you wanted to have? Now, if this is you, you're lucky today because you're gonna meet Claudia Wyatt, and this is what she does. Her mission is to empower and inspire people to believe in themselves through imagination, through confidence, and through self-care. She's one of the best speakers you will ever meet in the world. Claudia, welcome to Bounce Back in Business and Life.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Hello, thank you so much, Frank. Thank you everyone for tuning in. I am thrilled to be back with Frank. He is the greatest.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

We have a quite a mutual admiration society here. Claudia. All right, you you had quite an adventure, quite a road to get to the pinnacle that you've reached. Run us through some of the ups and downs here.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

I mean, the journey is real, that is for sure. You know, you never realize how much you're in it while you're in it, but we all have trials and tribulations in life. And what we don't realize until we get to the end is how much they have shaped us. So I had a long, long journey. It was a little over a decade of darkness and despair is what I call it. I was in it. I was in the mud. There were several deaths in my family. My dad and my sister passed between a month of each other, 17 years ago now, which is crazy. My dog of 17 years, who I had through everything, two toxic marriages, just unbelievable despair. And I was in a state of so much darkness that I lost who I was. And this bright, shiny person that you see now was missing. And I was so lost, and I didn't understand how I could be that lost. I was like, what is wrong with me? What's happening here? Where am I? I would look in the mirror and go, who are you? And I just couldn't get out of it. And just to be stuck in that place and going, this is not who I'm supposed to be. This is not the life I was meant to live. And one day I said, I woke up and I was like, I'm done with this. This is not the journey that I'm going to be on anymore. I'm done putting up with toxic people. I'm done living in the land of doom and gloom. I'm done not realizing my worth and my value. And I am going to take charge of that. And I stepped into the light with one step. That's all it takes, is one step forward. And my life completely changed. And I started a company. I'm speaking on stages. I'm writing for publications. I'm coaching amazing people because that was the defining moment when I was on that step, when I was on that walk, I call it my walkabout method, that I was never gonna let anyone go through what I went through alone. Because you can do it, you can get through the mud on your own, but it is so much nicer when you have someone who is there to guide you, to tell you this is normal, this is okay, there's nothing wrong with you. You're just in it, and it's okay to be in it. Feel it, understand it. That's how you get to the end by going through it.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Absolutely. Our friend Simmer Watson told me one time instead of saying what's wrong with me, say what's next for me.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Great approach. Now, this is something that just blew me away is that coaching just became trendy. Like within the last seven, eight, maybe ten years. You've been doing this for 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

What did you see that ever the rest of the world missed?

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Well, I didn't know I was coaching when I was doing it. That's the thing, is I was just talking to people. I have been a leader in every job I've ever had since my first job at 15. It's just part of my personality to come in and take control and see what's going on and see the best in people. I just see it. I have a great sense of reading people. And I was just helping people along. And as I moved up in different leadership positions in executive positions, I was coaching my teams. That was part of my job. It wasn't until later that I started my own company when people were like, Are you coaching? I'm like, I do that in my day job. What are you talking about? No. And then I just realized, oh, this is a thing. Coaching is something that has been around for generations. It's just, that's not always what it was called or looked at. When you thought of coaching back when we grew up, you were on a team. And not like a team in business. You were on doing sports, you were, you know, on a debate club, whatever. That was your team. Those were the coaches. But what people didn't realize is there were people of influence in their entire lives that were actually coaching them. We were just calling it advice.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Or consulting.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Correct. Correct. In the business form. But now, you know, everyone is considering themselves a coach, which isn't necessarily a bad thing because everyone has wisdom to share. However, there are some of us who that is our mission. Like that is our sole journey to help people along the way in whatever form we are in.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

You have quite a connection with young leaders, which is just amazing because they're the ones that they're like sponges sometimes, right? And you just spoke in Toronto. Yes. Some youth group program. And from what I recall, it was like some kind of a personal growth type clinic. What do you tell these young people?

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Oh, you know what? To be involved with the Young Professionals Leadership Summit is probably one of the greatest things. Because I was a leader at one point in time in my life. And you are correct. They are sponges. What I love is that they're so eager to do better. They're so eager to grow. They're so eager to do the work. That wasn't a thing for a lot of us when we grew up. We were just like, this is your job, and we're going to go from point A to point B, and that's what we're going to do. They want to be better all the way around, well rounded. So this particular conference, I actually went through my whole journey, which was also growth for me, of letting my story out, letting out all the pieces of the puzzle of the tragedy that I was in, what I went through, my own personal demons that I had to face in order to free myself from, and the journey of the toxic marriage that I was in and the road that I went down. And the feedback that I got from many people at the conference was if she can do it, I can do it. And that is exactly what I wanted because you just don't know where you can go, especially when you're stuck in that doom and gloom place. You think this is it, this is the best I can have. No, it isn't. You have allowed that story to play in your mind. And that doesn't need to be the way it is. You can change it, you can break it, you can set yourself free at any point in time. And so many of them were like, I can relate. My title was Being Stuck in the Vault. That's what I call it, the vault. I can relate to that in so many ways because it's different for every single person. It's not just my own personal vault. You know, there's banks all over the world. So it is your vault. It's your story of where you are stuck. And whether that's personally, professionally, it all has the bonus of you can break out of it.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Absolutely can. In one of my books, I put a statement in there that everyone gets stuck. Getting stuck is inevitable. However, staying stuck is a choice. Absolutely. And this is what I think where you just excel. You call yourself an enthusiasm igniter.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

I do have all this energy.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

So as you with in these audiences that you're speaking with, because sometimes you get the vibration from the audience.

unknown 8:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Do you see that as you're speaking? You see them all moving forward and engaging.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Yes, I love that. I love the whole interactive part of speaking. I'm not just gonna stand at a podium and just sit there. I move around, I'm very animated, I get my hands going. And when I get fired up, I can't contain it. And from what I've heard from everyone, like your energy is contagious. Yes, I want you to feel it. I want you to feel the good parts, I want you to feel the bad parts because that's how we're gonna connect. I mean, I get fired up just from talking to you, Frank. Like, I'm in it. Like, here we go. Let's get it started. I have a true self-pledge at the end of my talk that I did. And I had it on the screen so that everyone could read it. And they're, you know, I was like, stand up, we're gonna do this together. But apparently they didn't hear the we're gonna do this together. And so they're standing there and I'm starting and they're looking at it, and I'm like, hold on, wait a minute. You we're gonna do it together. And they all were like, Oh, I go, I didn't just have you stand up for no reason. And so then we did it together, and it was super fun and the energy and hearing the voices of everyone, you know, pledging to themselves that I am going to stand in my power and make this choice, and I am not going to mute myself anymore. I'm not going to do things that no longer serve me. This is my time. And just to have everybody in the room in a full chorus, because there were 300 plus people in this room reciting this together, the energy was electric. And that also created this community, which is really important to me when I'm speaking.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Now I've talked to people, I'm sure you have, and they'll say, I'm not happy where I am, but I don't know what else to do. I I need the job, I need the money, I need whatever the case might be. How do you approach them? What do you say to those people?

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Everybody is in their own path. It's their own journey. It's just the one step forward. We have been conditioned to look at the big picture, which is amazing, but sometimes you gotta bring it back in so you can see the step forward. And sometimes the first step forward, and I am the most guilty of this of all, is asking for help. Because if you can't see it because you're too close to it, you've got to step back and see what's right in front of you so you can move forward. And that's the thing is we see this big picture. It's just like when you're setting goals, you set these big goals. Not everyone can get the big goal and go, I'm going there from here to there. That's where I'm going. They're like overwhelmed by it. And instead they shut down and then they go nowhere. Where if you go, okay, let's break that down into teeny tiny steps, what's the first thing that you need to do? Just the first thing. Number one is you made the choice that you're gonna do it. That's the first thing. The second thing is the step that's gonna give you the momentum because it's an action step. It's something that you have physically, mentally, emotionally done to move forward. And then from there, you start going. And I can tell you from personal experience, especially with not having a plan to start a company, I had to backtrack a lot. There was a lot of things I was like, oh, we forgot this, oh, we need to do that, oh, we need to do this before we do that. But I didn't let that stop me. I still kept going because there's going to be something in your journey that's going to light the spark. And as I always say, once that spark is lit, you realize you are the flame. You are the one who's going to keep it going. You just got to believe in yourself.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

I love your point that the two biggest issues. Number one is asking for help. And number two, and even more important, is asking for help from people who have been where you want to go. These brilliant minds, right? And 65 19,224 patents and licenses. Wow. That's what I said. That's a lot. So I said, so why am I here? And they said, because 60% of our revenue comes from five. And I said, five percent. And I went, no, five. Five patents generate sixty percent of our revenue. So now you've got these outrageously brilliant minds. And I sit down with them and I said, Who are your mentors? Frat brother, professor, family member who ran a gas station a hundred years ago. Nice people, nice people, but they haven't been where you want to go. Why are you wasting your time with someone who can't get you where you want to go? And I see people talk to you and you and they have to be inspired. And the message is look, do it.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, I'm a hundred percent a doer. I am an action taker, and I don't care if I fail. I don't care if I fall flat on my face. I don't care. What's important to me is that I go for it because I have been, especially you know, with my story, I have been stuck in the same place for so long, and knowing you don't belong there is the worst feeling of all time. Take the risk to face yourself and just do it. Get in there, take one thing and say, I'm gonna try it, no matter the outcome. And if you're the smartest person in the room, you need to find new friends because I can tell you right now, they're not gonna get you anywhere. You want people who are so you're surrounding yourself with that have different strengths and different brilliances. Like you said, the people who are moving you forward. And don't be afraid to ask people who are smarter than you, more successful than you, for advice, for help, for suggestions. Because I can tell you right now, they want to share their knowledge, they want to help you, but they're not gonna come find you. You need to go find them. So there's another step. There's another step of going for it, is just reaching out and saying, Hey, I really need some help. And I don't really know where I'm going. So if somebody could tell me where I'm going or help me get to where I want to go, give me some clarity so I can figure it out, then let's make an action plan and go together. I am a big fan of action plans because they really help you focus and understand and fill in the gaps. But sometimes you need somebody to brainstorm with. And somebody, just like you, you need to ask me the right questions because I know the answer is in there, but I don't know what it is that needs to come out. So if somebody asks me the right thing, then it's gonna go, that's it! That's exactly what I was supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I always found it amazing that when I was coming up, and I came up in the arrow, they pounded on the desk and yelled, right? Didn't work back then, not gonna work now, not gonna work now. But what I found was successful people are more than willing to share with you because they see something in you that they're willing to bring it up and ask, right? Most people just sit in the back and oh, I can't do it, and you know, I'll just do my job and go home at night. But I was stunned at how many people will reach out and help you to be a guiding light for you, which you are for so many people.

unknown 16:11

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

So tell us about this walkabout method. I mean, I read it all the time and all your stuff. What is it? What do you do with it?

SPEAKER_02 16:19

You know, the walkabout is a movement, that's what I always say. It's not your typical coaching program. I have the walkabout, which is my journey, that's what I called it, when I started stepping into my own thing and I took my own trip. I took a self-trip and I was walking around. It's kind of just living your life on purpose. It's doing what you want to do when you want to do it and figuring out how to get there in the process. So from the walkabout, I created a self-paced course so people can get a little idea of me. And then a group came from it, and then a membership came from it because people didn't want to stop. I hadn't even planned on doing that. They're just like, we don't want to be done. The cool thing about it is this actually came from one of my coaches. She said, You have the amazing ability to pivot. She's like, No matter what's going on, you can just switch it and go, This is what we're doing today. And she's right, because basically my program isn't a step-by-step. There are foundations and frameworks for it and things that I do with all of the different facets of my certifications for coaching that I have. But it's not like, okay, here's the homework. This is what we're gonna do. Let's talk about it, let's move forward. No, this is a everybody is unmuted. I don't like muting in my sessions, right? I want you to be able to speak freely, enjoy and engage with each other through all of it. And I read the room. The first thing I do when I meet with everybody is say, all right, tell me what's going on. What's happened since I've seen you last? And everybody gets their moment to share. And then I'll go, okay, we have a theme, and we're gonna pivot today and go with what that is. So the walkabout is a method of growth, clarity, and empowerment that meets you where you're at. Everybody's walk is different based on where they're at in their own timeline, but it works together. No matter where you are, if you're 10 steps ahead or if you're 15 steps behind, or if you're right in the middle, it all goes together because everybody in that group in the program has been in one point or another on the map, right? So they can share with each other. This they're not just hearing from me all the time. I'm in there, I'm doing my thing, I'm sharing as well, and advising and all the things, but they're learning for each other. So someone will say, This is what's going on, you know, this is what's happened to me, and I'll give my two cents and I'll say, anybody want to add to that? Because this is a community where we grow together.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

And this is something I always talk about all the time. Your story matters because somebody and a lot of somebody's need to hear what you've been through.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Absolutely. And that was one of probably the hardest things for me in my journey is you know, I didn't come from the family where you put all your dirty laundry on the table, like you kept your business at home. So, did we talk about problems and things? No, you just you know put a band-aid on it and shove it down deep and move forward, like suck it up and you know, put some dirt on it. Like, isn't that what they always say? Like, just move on. Like, what do you mean? Basically, it was like if you hadn't been through the big three, then you didn't have a problem. So, what's your deal? You don't have a reason. We're now it's like we're embracing all of the pain that we've experienced and coming through that vulnerability, which was one of the hardest things in the world for me to let that out. I let it out in pieces. Because I've heard people now that'll say, I don't know how you're this vulnerable. I've never seen anyone be this vulnerable. The one of the other keynotes speakers came up to me after the conference and said, you know, there are speakers and then there are speakers, but that is next level vulnerability. And I was like, you don't understand how long it took me to let that stuff out. I mean, we're talking years here to let this out. I didn't just wake up one day and say, I'm gonna share all my business with the world. That is not what happened. I would put a little bit out and a little bit more, and I would see other people laying all their stuff on the table, and I was like, not there yet. I'm not there yet. But I did my own way, right? A little bit at a time. And then this particular keynote with shattering the vault, the rise of your true self is what my keynote is called. This was it. I was like, you have healing to do. This is a piece of that puzzle that needs to come out so that you can move forward. And I shared all the deepest, darkest things that came from my journey, from my husband being, you know, in a Mexican prison to me staying and and holding on to those. I have to do this because I can't have another divorce. So I'm gonna have to do it no matter what, to being mistreated, to emotionally, mentally, and physically being exhausted, to pretending I was fine all day long and doing, you know, 12 jobs at a time at the same time, every night coming home crying. I laid it all out. And when I was done, I felt like this huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders because look at where I am now. And that was the key. It wasn't about I hey, I want you to feel sorry for me because I've been through all this. No, that's not the point. The point is again, if I can do it, you can do it. We are all gonna go through these times that are gonna knock us down hard, especially times where you never would even think you can be the most capable person in the world. I mean, I was in accelerated learning programs, I walked a runway, I was dancing in ballet troupes, and This is where my life went. You have no idea the unexpected that's going to happen. It matters in a point because it builds in your character of who you are. It builds that inner strength, but it doesn't define you. And that's where the breaking out part comes from. You learned these things for a reason. And you're not going to know that reason while you're in it. When you're in it, you're just in it. The only thing you're thinking about when you're in it is I don't want to be in it. But it's after you get out of it that you can look back and reflect on the journey and go, this is why this happened. I am a firm believer that I would not be doing all the things I'm doing now had I not been through those horrific times in my life. Because what would I be here talking to you about? Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Yeah, it's amazing when you can take and go step, as you said, the first step, and I've been through that multiple times, where I'm you're miserable. And I've had multiple marriages also. And divorce is, and I remember having that conversation. I can't have another divorce, I can't go through this again. And now I have custody of two minor daughters.

unknown 23:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

Okay. I was never a teenage girl. This is going to be tough. I have no clue what I'm going to be facing. But you get through it. You just continue. We're going to make it. We're going to get through it. It's going to be okay. And you just continue to put one step at a time. And I've heard you say, you know, sometimes you're going to take a step forward, and other times you're going to take four steps backwards. That's okay, correct?

SPEAKER_02 23:33

It's a hundred percent okay because it's called reality. Your path is not going to just be straight and perfect and lovely with rainbows and sunshine and roses being dropped at your feet. That is not real. But it also isn't going to be always that dark cloud that's raining following you. There are pieces of power and joy in every step of the journey. And if you have a setback and you have to go backwards to go forwards, there's a reason. And I am a firm believer in that because there's something more you needed to know, something more you needed to learn, something you needed to heal from. I had a coach that I worked with once, and I said, but I fixed that. I got through it. I understand it. I did the work. I get it. She goes, always another layer, Claudia. And I go, I hate always another layer. So I get you. I understand. It's like I did the work. What happened? But there was something more you needed to see, something a little deeper you needed to dive into because maybe you scratched the surface and you're like, okay, I'm at least able to face it.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Dr. Deborah Forrest told me she's big into energy. And she said to me, The reason it happens is because you didn't learn the lesson. You glossed over it or you felt, okay, I've done good enough. Well, no, no, you didn't. Yeah. It's gonna continue to come back until you figure it out. And then the door, as she says, then the path opens up and the way seems clear. Is that true? Is that what happened?

SPEAKER_02 25:06

100% true. You know how many patterns I had to break that I had been repeating for years? Number one is I didn't even know they were patterns. That was part of the problem. I was just like, why does this keep happening? And then I was like, oh, because you were also part of the problem. I was the biggest that's not me when I was doing the work in the beginning, because again, it was new to me. I had never done the work before. And of course, you're so used to being part of the blame game where it can't possibly be your fault. And, you know, there are things that happen to people that are definitely not their fault. But for me, there was definitely, I was a part of the problem. I was a piece of the puzzle. I was the people pleaser. I was the shiny object syndrome person. You know, it was like I was the one who was always in control. So I had to have my two cents in there. I had to be part of it. I had to be the need to be needed. And once I faced those things, I was, I remember asking myself a question, and I don't remember what the question was because I'm a big believer of questions. And I asked the question, and I'm like, I don't do that. That's not me. And I walked away from it and I started doing something else, and it like flooded in and hit me like a ton of bricks. And I was like, Oh, I do do that. That is me. Oh no, like I need to fix it. But that was it, is the realization, the understanding that clarity came in. It was like, okay, I'm part of the problem. You've got to learn to set some boundaries because you have none. You can't keep saying yes to everything and wonder why you're exhausted. You have to be able to speak up and know your own value regardless of the outcome. You have to ask for what you want.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

I remember a counselor who said, you know, Frank, it takes one to know one. So the reason you keep doing this over and over and over again is because you've never come to grips with the fact that you don't have to fix everything. You don't have to be, you can't do it. And then this frustration builds, and these failures occur. And she says, You do well in your professional life, but your personal life just totally sucks, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:09

I should have worn that t-shirt. But that's where the best experiences come from, right? The best coaches are through lived experiences. This is part of it. But I get it, I totally do. I had the title of the fixer from my entire life. It was just born into me, so to speak. And it wasn't until I was older I was like, you don't have to carry these roles. You don't have to wear these hats if you don't want to. Now I do love solving problems and I love fixing things. But everyone's stuff isn't my job to fix. And I would jump in and just fix it and wonder why I never had time to do my own things or whether why my life was falling apart because I was always fixing everybody else's. You know, if they would be like calling me up and hey, I need this, I would be right there. And then I realized it was like, you know, sometimes people need to learn how to fix their own things. Like I am actually taking a lesson away from them by fixing it for them.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

And I was like, And it also comes into validation. And this is what I learned, you know, a single father with two pre-teenage daughters was the counselor said to me, and I'm a type A personality, right? I said, She said, problem number one, you can't fix this. You can't fix this, they're gonna have to process it. This is what you're gonna have to do. You're gonna have to learn how to validate feelings, and it's okay for them to feel that way. And I'm like, Oh god, I can't do that. And she goes, Well, you're gonna have to.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

I like this person, first of all.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

I know, really good. And I went to a room on purpose because I had never been there. So once you start to step back, I found this is probably why my marriages failed. Instead of coming in saying, Oh, do this and this and this, and don't feel like that. Okay, well, that was pretty damn stupid. How can you tell someone one time not to feel? So listen, validate the feelings okay, and more times than not, the person can work it through themselves.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Sometimes you tell them do this, they tend to get resentful.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Well, it becomes more of a demand, right? It's like you need to be this way and you need to you need to stop that right now instead of letting them process. I'm a big believer in holding space for people. Just because it's not on my timeline doesn't mean it's wrong. And I might really want to help you and really want this to move forward, and I can see all the pieces going together, but you're not there. And so I'm gonna just let you feel comfortable being vulnerable with me and speaking it out, speaking your truth, telling me what's going on, and I'm going to just listen. Because sometimes someone doesn't need your advice, they need you to hear them. And when you hear them, then you're gonna notice in the connection if they're ready for you to respond. And if you're not sure what that is, you can say, Would you like me to respond? Or do you just need me to hold space? And they'll give you the answer.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Powerful statement. Of all the success you've had, and you've had massive success. What's the one thing you're most proud of?

SPEAKER_02 30:24

You always ask me one that's a zinger. I would say the journey of myself, that I let myself be here, that I didn't stay stuck, the journey of me, the practicing continually of being more vulnerable, allowing myself to connect, allowing myself to feel, because I also came from the time of stuffing your feelings down and burying them and letting them out. I mean, I used to be able to, I'd be in a room full of people that were listening to some magical keynote speaker crying their eyes out, and I could just sniff it back and stuff it down. Like you wouldn't see a tear come out of my eye. And allowing those feelings to come out have shaped me and broke walls around my heart that were so, you know, impenetrable, that opened up my ability to care and help more people by living through my own truth. So I would say, and that has led me into all the great things that I get to do and built my empire as I call it, because it started with me.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

It's my story. So, how do people get a hold of you, Claudia?

SPEAKER_02 31:37

I am everywhere. You can literally find me by my name from every aspect. You can Google Claudia Wyatt, and I will just pop up with all kinds of things. But I'm on ClaudiaWyatt.com, I'm on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook. So I would love to connect with anyone. And if I'm out there for you, there's lots of wisdom, but I am here to help. So happy to cheer you on.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

We are just about out of time. I want to thank my guest, Claudia Wyatt. I love Claudia. I could she and I could talk for days without on end. Yes. As you've heard, she's a force of nature. And if you don't know her, get to know her. She's that good.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Yeah. The thing if I you love with Claudia, and you're gonna learn is that she's never too late to have the life that you want. It's never too late. Let me leave you all with this. None of us are in this alone. And the secret to walking on water is to know where the rocks are. Claudia showed us where many of those rocks are. And together in this podcast, we're gonna identify more rocks and we're gonna bounce back better than ever. If this resonates with you, tell a friend, subscribe, and I'll see you next week. Claudia, again, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Thank you for having me, Frank. And thank you everyone for listening.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

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